Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an Imheart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Looking at today's rundown, I got really excited because I
Speaker 2: was a huge Saved by the Bell fan. Oh so good, same,
Speaker 2: and like if I would have I actually it's fun
Speaker 2: funny my mom, which is I don't understand. But when
Speaker 2: I was I can't remember how old I was, but
Speaker 2: I remember I couldn't watch Saved by the Bell for
Speaker 2: a couple of years or like maybe it was like
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 3: They were a little older than us, right, a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, but no, I remember my mom being like, oh,
Speaker 2: you can't watch It might have been like in the beginning,
Speaker 2: but then it became my favorite show of all time.
Speaker 1: It's like all we watch, well that in full house.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it was like totally the.
Speaker 3: I'm totally blinking. What's the cafetine or the bayside the
Speaker 3: diner called? Oh I keep thinking peach pit and that's
Speaker 3: not correct.
Speaker 2: Don't know. Yeah, I actually don't remember.
Speaker 3: Yes we should the ultimate phone of friend, I.
Speaker 4: Know.
Speaker 2: But it's weird because I like she was just I mean,
Speaker 2: Tiffany was like the goddess. It's like she still is,
Speaker 2: I mean she really is, but like her and Mark,
Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know, I know, but like they're
Speaker 2: just the relationship that you just are like, I mean,
Speaker 2: like she was just beautiful and the cheerleader. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh god, we're interviewing her, like I would have never thought,
Speaker 2: have you met her?
Speaker 5: Book?
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait a second in life, you've
Speaker 1: never met her.
Speaker 2: Or met her?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: So I'm really excited because she's still just so beautiful.
Speaker 2: She's got a cookbook coming out called Here we Go
Speaker 2: Again Cookbook. It's her second one.
Speaker 1: I love that title, here we Go Again.
Speaker 2: I don't know much about her personal life though, do
Speaker 2: you guys know?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Actually I feel like she's I think she's pretty private,
Speaker 2: stayed out.
Speaker 1: Well let's get in there. Let's just I don't know.
Speaker 2: If anyone can.
Speaker 3: She thinks she's coming in to talk about a recipe.
Speaker 2: All right, what's up? How's everyone doing? Little check in,
Speaker 2: little check e check time?
Speaker 1: I'm good over here, You're always good. I'm good. I'm
Speaker 1: just busy. That's always a gamble with y'all. Who's crying
Speaker 1: down to doing?
Speaker 3: Already dead? So I'm going to cross that off the list.
Speaker 3: Try I don't know to hormones postpartu. I'm sure this morning. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was in traffic for quite some time.
Speaker 1: I saw that that looked bad. Is that going to school?
Speaker 1: That morning's rough? Is it not like that every day?
Speaker 3: No, it's fine. I just think the leveling out of
Speaker 3: the hormones is always a little tricky, if I'm just
Speaker 3: being honest.
Speaker 2: Sure, they say it takes a year to get back.
Speaker 1: That's crazy because no one gives you a year, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like a year or two. He
Speaker 1: gives you a year to be normal.
Speaker 3: No, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I just feel like uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: You're so cute. It's so hard.
Speaker 2: I did not really not. I just I get to
Speaker 2: like I'm just everything swollen and like I'm just really
Speaker 2: like I'm just uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: How many weeks are we Twenty eight is.
Speaker 1: Very so crazy, I know, so pretty to me.
Speaker 2: I just thanks.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not going to say thanks.
Speaker 2: But I do my glue coast test this week. So
Speaker 2: but and then we'll see the baby, and then we're
Speaker 2: touring the hospital, which I'm really excited about.
Speaker 1: That's fun.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So but there's just yeah, I just I'm
Speaker 2: like I don't know how to sit because I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is leaning back. It's just weird. It's just feels uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: But it's fine. So happy, miracle, so happy, so happy.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy.
Speaker 5: I'm lifting here.
Speaker 3: I'm like my postpartum hormones and driving man.
Speaker 1: So, you know what, I was just thinking about last
Speaker 1: week's episode. The pole were really upset and passionate about
Speaker 1: our take on the whole living in the same house
Speaker 1: together still situation. Really I didn't look, I know, I
Speaker 1: just I just scott a few like on the wind
Speaker 1: Down podcast, just like because here I want to go.
Speaker 1: You know what, we didn't have enough information because they
Speaker 1: did buy the house together. Both their names are on it,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of like why did she have
Speaker 1: to move out? Why not him?
Speaker 4: Mmm?
Speaker 1: I was like, oh but interesting. So I was like,
Speaker 1: so sorry, I just don't think we had all the information.
Speaker 2: No no one ever.
Speaker 1: Does though, Well that's what I was saying. Then. I
Speaker 1: was like, I feel like we're missing a part of
Speaker 1: this puzzle.
Speaker 3: Like no one ever does full Bravo TV shows about things,
Speaker 3: and we never have the information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's from a next Road ruler.
Speaker 2: That's a good lesson though, because everything on all you're
Speaker 2: seeing is just like, oh, she's not moving out because
Speaker 2: they're cats and dogs exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we literally read the article that was we
Speaker 1: did what and we people do? Yeah, we absolutely did.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, we're all important.
Speaker 3: We are asked to chime in, and so we chimed.
Speaker 3: I am always the first to tell you I know
Speaker 3: nothing about what's going on in the world.
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny that when I first saw
Speaker 1: the like I was upset about this episode, I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: what did we do?
Speaker 3: But that's what they were upset about. I thought that
Speaker 3: was like, guys didn't even hate on Tom enough.
Speaker 5: What it was.
Speaker 1: People are passionate about that.
Speaker 3: Like, I think it's a given that we all don't
Speaker 3: like Tom all in favor and not looking Tom say
Speaker 3: I I I.
Speaker 1: The way, what did we do?
Speaker 2: And also I think and no, and I think okay,
Speaker 2: like it's time to Yeah, it's okay, like he deserves
Speaker 2: I don't want everyone to be like canceled.
Speaker 1: Oh I kind of want him to be canceled a little. Again.
Speaker 1: I don't like that word. Well, he wasn't a good guy.
Speaker 2: But doesn't mean that someone just because you make mistakes
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you should be canceled, just like my action
Speaker 2: be canceled, just like someone who says something wrong. You
Speaker 2: shouldn't be canceled for something. When we're all human, we
Speaker 2: all make mistakes, mistakes.
Speaker 3: I don't really want him canceled it just when I'm
Speaker 3: like paused for a while.
Speaker 2: But again I think. I mean, I hear you enter
Speaker 2: in the Great Debate, Okay, do I totally hear you.
Speaker 2: I just also think their lives are under a microscope.
Speaker 1: I know this.
Speaker 2: So there are so many things that we do on
Speaker 2: a daily basis that if people's lives were under a microscope,
Speaker 2: everybody would be getting paused.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, in every genre.
Speaker 5: Categories.
Speaker 2: So like what he did, I'm not saying again, I'm
Speaker 2: not defending Kellyan or Tom. I'm just saying like everyone
Speaker 2: deserves like like he does.
Speaker 3: Messed up pr person, that's for sure, because his first
Speaker 3: public apology was about the business.
Speaker 2: No I agree all of it was like I don't
Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't like any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: I get it, and it's like we're all just like human.
Speaker 3: Well, I just have to be on the Tom's and
Speaker 3: Asks train for a minute so that I can get
Speaker 3: some of my people back.
Speaker 2: I know, have you guys watched Painkiller? I started and
Speaker 2: now okay we just finished it last night, and it's
Speaker 2: so wildly disturbing. It just breaks my heart. It's so
Speaker 2: and they still prescribe oxy cotton, which just even wake
Speaker 2: blows my mind even more. But it's a great show
Speaker 2: directed by Peter Berg, Taylor Kitchen is in it, some
Speaker 2: amazing actors. What's not a documentary, right, No, it's a
Speaker 2: mini series six? What's his face from?
Speaker 1: Uh? Jessica?
Speaker 2: I mean, what's her name from Sex and the City? Oh?
Speaker 1: S JP?
Speaker 2: Yeah, her husband's and Matthew, Matthew Roderick, thank you.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 1: So it's good.
Speaker 2: It's just so good, but so disturbing. How like they
Speaker 2: literally lied saying there's a one percent addiction rate with
Speaker 2: oxy cotton, and like that was the biggest lie ever
Speaker 2: And it's like it just makes me just get really
Speaker 2: angry with things that come out on media and press
Speaker 2: when they're just run their story is narrative, when it's
Speaker 2: like that's actually not even true. I mean, like all
Speaker 2: these people we know, like three hundred thousand people died
Speaker 2: over the oxyconton opioid like epidemic that happened, and people
Speaker 2: still continue messed, and.
Speaker 3: A lot of them are young and they knew what
Speaker 3: they were doing too.
Speaker 2: I'm like the show was just like I mean, they
Speaker 2: knew like it was addictive.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like you kind of know that that goes on,
Speaker 1: but like, I mean, I definitely feel like I'm a
Speaker 1: person that knows that goes on with them watching the show.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, just to like watch it and see
Speaker 1: it and see I don't know, it's just it's mind blowing.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what's interesting about it too is they
Speaker 2: were saying like a lot of the people that were
Speaker 2: selling the drug, like the drug reps are like, it's
Speaker 2: the it's the the drug addicts that are the ones
Speaker 2: that are abusing it. It's like, no, when someone hurt
Speaker 2: their back and they're over prescribing like the milligram, like
Speaker 2: of course, someone is like, they're not. They didn't start
Speaker 2: on an addict. They started it out with the back pain.
Speaker 1: Right now they don't know how to look at it
Speaker 1: and now.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, and now they're like, you know, going crazy
Speaker 2: to have it. So I'm like, because it's now it's
Speaker 2: more than one percent addictive and which we were talking
Speaker 2: about that. I was like, if you ever, you know,
Speaker 2: take an oxycodone or any of those other things, and
Speaker 2: I know they give you oxy after the C section,
Speaker 2: they give coton.
Speaker 1: Oh what's the other name for it? Then oh, I
Speaker 1: can't think of that Codine's that's not what I got.
Speaker 2: And then after your boob job too, they give you
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not it's a what are the
Speaker 2: other at least? But those ones like they just mess.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't like them. I don't like the way that
Speaker 2: I feel on any of things. So I'm always just like,
Speaker 2: give me the eight hundred milligrams of advil because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't like how I feel on those things. Are
Speaker 2: you googling it?
Speaker 1: I am because I also have a story about.
Speaker 2: This, okay, so because I remember the last time I
Speaker 2: took it with Jase and it might might be oxycodone,
Speaker 2: it's it's one of those like Percocet's. Oh no, see
Speaker 2: I got the oxycodone with Jace. I never had a percocet,
Speaker 2: but I don't. I just don't like it. I'm just
Speaker 2: like give me. I'm like, give me the advil, please,
Speaker 2: like the I'm like the I feel.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know if it's because maybe I just
Speaker 3: have a low tolerance or I don't really take like
Speaker 3: medicine medicine, but anything I take, I feel it so strongly,
Speaker 3: so quickly.
Speaker 1: So one of them makes me really sick. I had
Speaker 1: one when I was younger. I think it's oxy codons,
Speaker 1: isn't that It made me real sick to my stomach.
Speaker 1: And I had after like a surgery when I was younger,
Speaker 1: and maybe I get them very confused. I do know though,
Speaker 1: after c sections, I got percocets. Well, rewind to you know,
Speaker 1: my mother is a recovering pill addict.
Speaker 6: And how did she start that? Over the counter drugs
Speaker 6: from over the counter like which ones, percocets and other things,
Speaker 6: lots of things given okay, sorry.
Speaker 2: By a doctor for pain.
Speaker 1: Yes, she has arthritis in her hands. That's how I started.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well this must like hit home then yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1: There's a lot and so she starts okay, and so
Speaker 1: she just started taking a lot of things. But when
Speaker 1: we found all of them, it was like the same
Speaker 1: doctor on so yes, I mean obviously that doctor got
Speaker 1: in trouble, but that doctor just kept prescribing kept prescribing.
Speaker 1: She did other things with it, you know, like sleeping
Speaker 1: pills and stuff like that. But the percocets, so I
Speaker 1: did take them after all of my c sections. I
Speaker 1: never finished a whole thing, but I always because I'm
Speaker 1: scared too, because I mean, I will never forget after Emmy.
Speaker 1: After I had Emmy, so eleven years ago, I you know,
Speaker 1: was still kind of taking them and I got mastitis
Speaker 1: really bad, like I was puking in the shower. I was,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, And I was like, Nick, go get
Speaker 1: the percocets. I'd already stopped taking them, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm in so much pay, and go get the percocets.
Speaker 1: And it said you could take one or two, and
Speaker 1: I will just never as long as I live, forget
Speaker 1: the feeling of taking those two percocets. It was I
Speaker 1: loved the feeling and that was the problem. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was just like coming. It was just like I went
Speaker 1: from I felt like I was dying to just like
Speaker 1: sew it. Oh my god, Oh my god. And I
Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna need to take these and throw
Speaker 1: them in the get rid of them, because I was
Speaker 1: so scared that I liked that feeling and I was like, nope, like,
Speaker 1: cannot have those. I mean it numbs you out a
Speaker 1: little bit. It was amazing. Yeah, I mean it definitely
Speaker 1: took the pain and it did all that. But it's
Speaker 1: scary because it's just so like I could just in
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, this is how people get addicted.
Speaker 1: I easily could do this again tomorrow night and just
Speaker 1: be relaxed. And I mean that's just the reality. Like
Speaker 1: I could tell how easy it would be, like.
Speaker 2: The glass of wine, like HYDI relax, So what might
Speaker 2: as well just take this little pill and go.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So it's just from then on I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so I would take them. I never felt like I
Speaker 1: didn't have the control over it ever. Sure, so she'd
Speaker 1: give them to me, and I would, you know, take
Speaker 1: until I felt like I needed to, and then I
Speaker 1: would stop. So I never finished a whole bottle. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, these have got to get out
Speaker 1: of the house. I mean it's scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like taking anything at all. I remem
Speaker 2: have a hard time taking Thailand all those things which
Speaker 2: I didn't like taking lexupro. But I will say when
Speaker 2: I got my boob job and they gave me diazepam
Speaker 2: that stuff. I was like, this is amazing. And I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is like Lester, that was Easter,
Speaker 2: Janna that Jana. So it's a muscle slash anxiety medicine okay.
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, like you know, like that's
Speaker 1: but didn't give up.
Speaker 2: But it was again one of those things where I
Speaker 2: was just like it, you know, I was like this,
Speaker 2: I can see it's I don't like get take it out,
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like to feel out of control my body.
Speaker 2: I think just why I've never touched a drug. That's
Speaker 2: I'm so scared. Like I've seen the amount of people
Speaker 2: that I've like I can name the names of people
Speaker 2: that I was like in Los Angeles, like they were
Speaker 2: doing cocaine. I'm like, I can't touch it. I won't.
Speaker 2: I just I'm so such a control freak that I'm
Speaker 2: like I don't. And also like I always wanted to
Speaker 2: like tell my kids, I was like, I've never done
Speaker 2: a drug. I'm cool, you know, but also like you know,
Speaker 2: don't don't do that stuff, especially nowadays that's terrifying with
Speaker 2: like the fentanyl stuff. But I'm like I just don't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't like feeling out of control. I don't. I
Speaker 2: mean the other day Alan got stung by a wasp
Speaker 2: and I was like, if that was me, i'd be
Speaker 2: hyper like I can't breathe, like because I think anything
Speaker 2: is going to like kill you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 2: I'm married to one of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: You should see his arm though, it's like it's two sizes.
Speaker 1: Something's going back on.
Speaker 3: This is not really worth noting, but something is going
Speaker 3: on with bugs. I don't know if it's everywhere or here,
Speaker 3: but like my kids are getting big and it is
Speaker 3: like welt like I'm trying around them because I'm nervous
Speaker 3: of what it could be or what it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what were we going to say though about pills?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I also watched the effects of that in my own
Speaker 3: life with my dad.
Speaker 1: Was he in on everything? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 3: But it is really slippery slope and I for some reason,
Speaker 3: I feel like it is. For some reason, it feels
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how to frame this. So
Speaker 3: just not for vadom with this, but like socially acceptable
Speaker 3: because they're prescribed or something like I feel like they
Speaker 3: are they think that they're not doing something harmful because
Speaker 3: they're prescribed or well.
Speaker 1: Also, like when I was watching it, I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine being in his position.
Speaker 2: Whose position?
Speaker 1: The guy who hurt his back, Oh Taylor's character in
Speaker 1: the show, Like that has to be so painful. What
Speaker 1: else are you going to do? Like, you can't blame
Speaker 1: them for taking something because they're in so much pain.
Speaker 1: And when you're in pain, you're grouchy. But he can't
Speaker 1: he couldn't even like function, especially with back pain. It's
Speaker 1: very common. And I actually had a girl up to
Speaker 1: high school with who died later who had back problems. Pain,
Speaker 1: you know, pills, all the things, but you're in so
Speaker 1: much pain, it's almost kind of like your life is
Speaker 1: terrible over here, or it's and I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: to defend it in any way, but like you almost
Speaker 1: can't live. Some people almost can't live a normal life
Speaker 1: looking for relief as well, yeah, yeah, they don't have
Speaker 1: the relief.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like people and I think they originally prescribed
Speaker 2: her for people that a lot of pain during cancer.
Speaker 2: So it's like people that you know, just needed that
Speaker 2: to live, but like be you know, pain free. So sorry,
Speaker 2: we went down that path. I just was, like, it
Speaker 2: was just I was just so upset last night after
Speaker 2: we finished it.
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2: It's a great show, though.
Speaker 1: Just I've kind of taken it slow. I just get
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: So I'm just watching some lighter things for the time being.
Speaker 1: But I'll pin it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's let's flip it. Let's talk about foods
Speaker 2: because we're gonna get Tiffany Fisan on the show and
Speaker 2: she's going to talk about her new cookbook. Here we
Speaker 2: go again, and because honestly, food is where like what
Speaker 2: really drives the body and helps the body and all
Speaker 2: those things, so nourish, nourish. Take a break and we'll
Speaker 2: get her.
Speaker 5: On how are you guys?
Speaker 2: We're good?
Speaker 5: How are you? We're good?
Speaker 1: Let me just have moment. I just can't believe it.
Speaker 1: I have my moment.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: Do you just look at girls our age in our
Speaker 2: forties and just go, oh crap. I don't want to
Speaker 2: talk to them because they just see they just see.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm only going to call you Tiffany, but
Speaker 3: you need to know where you live in my heart
Speaker 3: forever and you matter.
Speaker 4: I mean That's what's hard, because I have some people
Speaker 4: who are Kelly and some people who are very much
Speaker 4: a Valerie.
Speaker 5: So I don't know where you stand. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, Kelly, don't worry.
Speaker 3: Kelly, I say we should just move in and saved
Speaker 3: by the bell.
Speaker 2: I got it, well, no, because I was. I was
Speaker 2: telling them earlier. I remember. I mean, obviously we all
Speaker 2: grew up watching the show and stuff, and last Christmas,
Speaker 2: Mario Lopez was one of my co stars, like we were.
Speaker 2: He was my love interest from our last movie, and
Speaker 2: I just remember, like it's just when you grow up
Speaker 2: just idolizing people, characters on a show.
Speaker 5: It was just like, yeah, that's people you watch that
Speaker 5: you feel like you're a part of their lives. You know.
Speaker 4: It's funny people say this, but Aaron Spelling taught me
Speaker 4: a long time ago that people who are on TV
Speaker 4: feels even more. There's more of a connection because you're
Speaker 4: in their living room. Where people when you go and
Speaker 4: see movies and movie stars, when they're on big screens
Speaker 4: and you're going to.
Speaker 5: A movie theater, they feel a little less touchable.
Speaker 4: I guess, you know, in a way where people who
Speaker 4: you know were in your living room on a weekly basis,
Speaker 4: feel much more a part of your, part of your
Speaker 4: family almost, you know.
Speaker 2: When we were talking to before the show, I feel
Speaker 2: like you've done a really good job staying pretty private
Speaker 2: in your public life, and just in I don't ever
Speaker 2: see like I've never seen like the headlines or the family.
Speaker 2: So I don't know you, just like you, you seem
Speaker 2: to lead a very like private, like hash like normal.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm overly private.
Speaker 4: I mean I share, you know, it's I know some
Speaker 4: people don't even share their kids on socials and stuff,
Speaker 4: and I totally respect that.
Speaker 5: But I don't know, maybe maybe I'm just boring.
Speaker 1: I hear no drama and I like that.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm not.
Speaker 4: I definitely yeah, I have As I'm almost reaching fifty,
Speaker 4: I don't have the energy for the drama anymore, and
Speaker 4: I wasn't even back then, but I'm even less now.
Speaker 1: How many kids do you have?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 5: I have two?
Speaker 2: You have too, okay?
Speaker 1: A boy and girl?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I want to beach. I have a teenager
Speaker 5: that's thirteen, a girl and an eight year old boy.
Speaker 2: So okay, So as I'm I'm going to be forty
Speaker 2: in December, and I feel like it's just I'm very
Speaker 2: excited for forty, but as you're nearing fifty, or is
Speaker 2: there something that's like, what's different between turning forty versus
Speaker 2: turning fifty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will you so, And I'm actually kind of
Speaker 4: surprised at even feeling like this. But I feel even
Speaker 4: more settled and not as nervous about reaching fifty. I
Speaker 4: don't know why you think I would be than I
Speaker 4: was turning forty. I was much more nervous about forty.
Speaker 4: I was much more nervous about looking a certain way,
Speaker 4: feeling a certain way. And it's also I look back,
Speaker 4: and I think the reason why I was a little
Speaker 4: more unsettled is because I was still in that beginning
Speaker 4: stages of just having babies, right, So I feel like hormonally,
Speaker 4: I was kind of still all over the place, and
Speaker 4: you know, I wasn't settled back into like feeling like
Speaker 4: me again.
Speaker 5: I also probably wasn't spending a lot of time on me.
Speaker 4: I was spending more time on my children and also
Speaker 4: trying to navigate the difference between you know the time
Speaker 4: of like putting into work and shooting and you know,
Speaker 4: making sure I still was there for my kids and
Speaker 4: you know, all that kind of stuff. So it was
Speaker 4: a lot of push and pull and a lot of like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here where Now
Speaker 4: my kids are a little more subtle than thirteen and eight. Now,
Speaker 4: you know, it's not that they don't need as much,
Speaker 4: but they kind of don't need as much right physical me,
Speaker 4: and I'm able to put a little more time back
Speaker 4: into me and make me a bigger priority again.
Speaker 5: I guess, I would say.
Speaker 4: And so I think that has a lot to do
Speaker 4: with the fact that I'm I'm feeling much more subtled,
Speaker 4: much more.
Speaker 5: Okay with turning fifty.
Speaker 1: I think that's to me beautiful.
Speaker 3: That's actually like those words are just kind of a gift,
Speaker 3: even to me personally today because I just had a
Speaker 3: baby three months ago and forty one.
Speaker 1: So I'll be forty two in January, and I was.
Speaker 5: Forty one with my second one, and it's you know, like, yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm eleven weeks till my due date, so I'm and
Speaker 2: I'm going to be forty like well now they've moved out,
Speaker 2: like my du date. But yeah, it's like I've got've
Speaker 2: done honestly at this point. But yeah, go ahead what
Speaker 2: you were saying.
Speaker 3: No, it's just like it is that it's that like
Speaker 3: I don't know, just a little hope from not the
Speaker 3: other side, but the light at the end of the time.
Speaker 5: But I am on the other side. I'm totally on
Speaker 5: the other side.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we feel a little late, you know, like have
Speaker 3: we both had a word? Yeah, And it's later than
Speaker 3: most of our Yeah, even with cat, like five kids
Speaker 3: are breaking into the school.
Speaker 1: High school, middle school, and elementary school.
Speaker 5: So I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you, which is so fun. Like
Speaker 1: I love these ages, I love all that. But you're
Speaker 1: right like y'all are still you know, the baby stage
Speaker 1: and which I do miss starting over. Yeah, there's moments.
Speaker 1: I missed that stage too, I do, but but I'm
Speaker 1: but it's not there. I'm done, you know.
Speaker 4: And so I am on the other side, and so
Speaker 4: I think being able to put myself a little bit
Speaker 4: higher on the list again, it's kind of nice, and
Speaker 4: it's it's I feel very subtled.
Speaker 5: I'm excited to turn fifty. I know that's crazy, but
Speaker 5: I'm totally okay with it.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's great.
Speaker 4: I think I was still a little like what's happening
Speaker 4: forty Oh my god, you know, like a little more
Speaker 4: freakish about it.
Speaker 2: I think I think too. Yeah, it's like with you
Speaker 2: saying like the balance and being able to, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of do what you want to do now. I
Speaker 2: remember I was filming something this past summer and I
Speaker 2: usually the kids come with me all three weeks of shooting,
Speaker 2: and this time, because of like where we were shooting,
Speaker 2: it was like not going to be great. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, my daughter, you know, my daughter's almost eight,
Speaker 2: my son's you know, I'm gonna be almost five. And
Speaker 2: he's not really a great like set kid. He's just
Speaker 2: he's two minutes he's like, I'm bored. What are we doing?
Speaker 2: And so I was like, okay, I'm going to try
Speaker 2: it where it's I have them for a week with
Speaker 2: me onset and then two weeks they're with their with
Speaker 2: they're with their dad. And I was stressing so much
Speaker 2: about it because but I realized I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I can do it, because and I did it, and
Speaker 2: it was I was less stressed. I actually had more
Speaker 2: fun filming. He goes I every time i'd be like
Speaker 2: on se like, oh, well, I gotta go back to
Speaker 2: see the kids. I gotta put them down and then
Speaker 2: I'm going to learn my lines. And it's like you're
Speaker 2: just that those two weeks they're never going to remember
Speaker 2: and like they're loved and they're they're they're okay. And
Speaker 2: I think totally. I think back in all the times
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, like I stretched myself so
Speaker 2: thin because I was like I'd be such a bad
Speaker 2: mom if I didn't leave them, or and again, you
Speaker 2: lose pieces of things that you want to do and
Speaker 2: you might have said no to things or whatever, and
Speaker 2: it's like right now you're also seeing there like no,
Speaker 2: like the kids are going to be fine, and now
Speaker 2: you get to do you Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll you'll do it.
Speaker 1: I might add, I'm like this, I know.
Speaker 2: But this is now your second cookbook. What is different
Speaker 2: from this one than than the first one?
Speaker 1: So my first one was.
Speaker 4: Very I would say, much more of a traditional family
Speaker 4: inspired you know, recipes that I either had been doing
Speaker 4: with my own family for years or stuff I created
Speaker 4: with my kids or because of my kids. This one
Speaker 4: kind of the idea kind of started right at the
Speaker 4: beginning COVID weirdly enough, and.
Speaker 5: I think when we were not.
Speaker 4: Going to the grocery store as often, right, we were
Speaker 4: in that place where like, eh, grocery store, no one
Speaker 4: can leave their house, and so when we went it
Speaker 4: was almost special where we were like, Okay, this is
Speaker 4: all the things I need, and make sure you get them,
Speaker 4: and then you would kind of stretch what you had.
Speaker 5: Because you didn't want to go back to the grocery
Speaker 5: store right away, right.
Speaker 4: And it got me thinking that I was kind of
Speaker 4: raised that way and for a different reason. Not because
Speaker 4: of COVID and not because of germs and getting COVID
Speaker 4: and all that other stuff, but it was more because
Speaker 4: my parents didn't have a lot of money, so my
Speaker 4: mom was stretching food for a budget reason. And then
Speaker 4: it got me thinking, well, this is how we should
Speaker 4: really be truly cooking and shopping, right, and not because
Speaker 4: of it could be for budget reasons, of course, but
Speaker 4: it also for a food waste, which is you know,
Speaker 4: a reason because I'm always trying to teach my kids
Speaker 4: about food waste and how really it's one of the
Speaker 4: biggest impacts we have on global warming.
Speaker 5: And how that it's really con chart at home.
Speaker 4: I mean really about Okay, so we're going to make
Speaker 4: chicken tonight with a bunch of vegetables and lots of sides,
Speaker 4: and all those things can be repurposed into something totally
Speaker 4: different and reimagined the other The next day.
Speaker 5: I can make inchilatas out of the chicken.
Speaker 4: I can make you know, a veggie salad the next
Speaker 4: day that's grilled, you know, Like There's lots of ways
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 5: And so I was like, there's a book here.
Speaker 4: I've never seen a cookbook that really kind of focuses
Speaker 4: on not just what people think leftovers are. It's not
Speaker 4: just inch a lots that you had at the Mexican
Speaker 4: restaurant the night before. I'm talking about like you go
Speaker 4: when you buy these ingredients for a recipe and say buttermilk.
Speaker 5: I used to do this all the time.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I just wasted the buttermilk, you know,
Speaker 4: because of a recipe that I made, because I was
Speaker 4: making you know, fried chicken one night.
Speaker 5: Well why did I waste that?
Speaker 4: I could have made nine million other things that I
Speaker 4: could have repurposed into something else. Or my kids would
Speaker 4: come in, I'm like, mom, there's no more chips. I'm like,
Speaker 4: there's lots of chips in it. They are all broken.
Speaker 4: I don't want to eat them. Well, I'm going to
Speaker 4: make it into something else, you know, I'm going to
Speaker 4: make fried chicken out of that.
Speaker 5: Right. So it's kind of sort of started.
Speaker 4: That way where I was like, there's a cookbook in here,
Speaker 4: and so that was kind of my little baby during COVID,
Speaker 4: where I had this idea to write this book based
Speaker 4: on truly leftovers and food waste, and then I really
Speaker 4: wanted to kind of shoot it in a way where
Speaker 4: it was kind of a nod to my childhood. So
Speaker 4: it's very much shot in like a seventies eighties sort
Speaker 4: of way and kind of giving a little love letter
Speaker 4: to my childhood, right, because these days, nostalgic is very
Speaker 4: I think comforting for so many people, and I know
Speaker 4: it is for me.
Speaker 3: So we're trendy again, is all that's happening our generations?
Speaker 5: That's exactly right.
Speaker 4: I mean, my daughter addresses exactly the way I did
Speaker 4: in the nineties.
Speaker 5: It's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Minds wearing a choker and I'm like, don't call it
Speaker 3: a comeback, sis, it never left.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's actually.
Speaker 1: Really brilliant though I was.
Speaker 3: I like this idea mostly because we do like a
Speaker 3: lot of power cooking, so like Sundays, I just find
Speaker 3: it's easier for me to not go off the track
Speaker 3: so much if I power cook Sunday. So yeah, like
Speaker 3: I got quinwa and roasted jeez, and then I kind
Speaker 3: of just like weave those into recipes. But I feel
Speaker 3: like lately I've been a little stagnant, like I'm using,
Speaker 3: I'm power cooking the same things, and then I'm making
Speaker 3: the same things and that's when I start to wonder
Speaker 3: or whin door to actually a danging or yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my bad, Well hey you know what I mean. Look,
Speaker 4: I to talk about take out. I grace myself with
Speaker 4: those days because there's many days. I look, I love
Speaker 4: to cook, but you can't do it every day. It's
Speaker 4: it's it's really quite hard to really do it every day,
Speaker 4: especially for someone who loves to cook. And I and
Speaker 4: I used to really even before kids, I was cooking
Speaker 4: every day because I loved it. But my husband's the
Speaker 4: one who does dishes, and he's like, can you not
Speaker 4: cook tonight? Because I really don't want to sit at
Speaker 4: the sink for an hour.
Speaker 3: He's like, I will actually maybe a gift card. I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's all the same money. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Can you talk to the girls aka me and maybe
Speaker 2: Kat here too. I really I want to cook. I
Speaker 2: really do, Like I want to cook for my fiance
Speaker 2: and I my you know, my kids, and I get
Speaker 2: so overwhelmed. Yeah, and I just because I'm also you know,
Speaker 2: doing everything and out the baby coming. I'm just like, I, yeah,
Speaker 2: my god, I would love to get her cookbook and cook.
Speaker 2: I just the thought of it. It overwhelms me because
Speaker 2: it's mom my, mom my, mom and I'm trying to like,
Speaker 2: you know, post something or she sends your just word,
Speaker 2: you know, it's I'm just like I I want to
Speaker 2: do it, but I'm overwhelmed. Yeah what do I do?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: And here's the thing and that's okay. Well, but but
Speaker 4: you're at that stage right now, like right, so that's okay.
Speaker 4: So maybe you're not going to be cooking right now,
Speaker 4: or maybe you're only cooking once a week, or maybe
Speaker 4: you cook something super simple that only takes you thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: But like you, I don't even know me like what
Speaker 2: because I'm sick of doing the air fier chicken nuggets.
Speaker 2: I feel terrible, you know what I mean. I'm like,
Speaker 2: Alan's like, you know, my fan say, he's such a
Speaker 2: good cook, but he travels a lot, and so he's like,
Speaker 2: what are the kids having to that? I'm like, chicken nuggets,
Speaker 2: but I cut up avocado and tomatoes and you know,
Speaker 2: like and then aside of fruit.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, But it's also hard because I think
Speaker 4: you're also at that age where I remember this with
Speaker 4: my kids, were like I don't want to eat that,
Speaker 4: and they want something else. And then you know, everybody's
Speaker 4: going to have their own ideas of what they want
Speaker 4: to eat, right, And I feel like that does get
Speaker 4: easier as the kids get older.
Speaker 5: And you could probably say the same thing, but but
Speaker 5: but it's hard.
Speaker 4: You know, Like last night everybody had sports. Whole had skateboarding,
Speaker 4: Harper has volleyball, like you know, and we're shipping these
Speaker 4: kids everywhere and we don't have a nanny and so
Speaker 4: and we generally have never had a nanny. We had
Speaker 4: it for a small moment and it just wasn't for
Speaker 4: our family. So it's very hard to find time. So
Speaker 4: last night it was a thirty minute dinner where I
Speaker 4: literally did taco buls, like that's what it was, and
Speaker 4: the kids love them, and veggies get thrown into it,
Speaker 4: which takes two seconds to saute, and there's meat and
Speaker 4: there's beans and there's rice that was leftover in the
Speaker 4: fridge and that's what it was.
Speaker 5: It took me thirty minutes. That was it. And then
Speaker 5: my dad, you know, my husband did the dishes.
Speaker 1: And that's our life. Like sports and taco balls, that's
Speaker 1: literally our life. They're just easy and you can just
Speaker 1: do it real quick, like they're super easy.
Speaker 4: They can make their own, which is great because like
Speaker 4: my daughter's like I don't like as much cheese, and
Speaker 4: so they can make them their own.
Speaker 5: That kind of layered thing is kind of fun.
Speaker 4: There's days where I will throw a turkey meatloaf together,
Speaker 4: which also doesn't take a lot of.
Speaker 5: Time while they're in school. If I have the moment and.
Speaker 4: It's in the fridge until it's ready to go into
Speaker 4: the oven, and then the oven does the cooking, I
Speaker 4: don't have to do anything else but then serve it,
Speaker 4: or they can serve it themselves. So there's ways of
Speaker 4: doing it. But also I think the bigger lesson of
Speaker 4: it all is just giving yourself grace. Like if you're
Speaker 4: not in that place right now, that's okay, Like who cares?
Speaker 4: Like you're still there, right, You're still feeding them, They're
Speaker 4: still eating, They're still eating.
Speaker 2: I really needed, you know that, especially today, I think, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just honestly I wish I And this is no
Speaker 2: hate to my mom, but like I didn't grow up
Speaker 2: with the model. My mom was great, but yeah, she
Speaker 2: cook a lot. She cooked for our meals. Two of
Speaker 2: them were breakfast foods, pancakes and waffles, but the other
Speaker 2: one was like a chicken castor role I didn't have.
Speaker 2: I didn't have fish until I moved to Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: like from Midwest again, when she was a working.
Speaker 4: Month, wasn't in you Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think
Speaker 4: that has a lot to do with it too, because
Speaker 4: we do go off of what we are used to
Speaker 4: and what we you know, my mom cooked all the time,
Speaker 4: so you know, but I also my mom didn't work.
Speaker 4: My mom didn't you know, like she was a mom
Speaker 4: and that was that my dad worked two jobs, you know,
Speaker 4: to allow her to be home, so she had a
Speaker 4: lot more time. And I had to remind myself, like
Speaker 4: my life was very different than my mother. You know,
Speaker 4: as much as I love to cook and I love
Speaker 4: to do that, I can't do it every single day.
Speaker 4: I can't do three meals a day from scratch.
Speaker 5: Not possible.
Speaker 3: Also, they're not going to eat them anyways, Like.
Speaker 1: There's not a time they I will say.
Speaker 5: I will say at the younger age, it's a lot harder.
Speaker 4: It does get easier as they get older, and I
Speaker 4: and I can put it down and be like, this
Speaker 4: is what you're and if you don't like it too bad,
Speaker 4: Like my daughter. My daughter is now older and she's like,
Speaker 4: don't make me breakfast, I'll make it myself. I said, great,
Speaker 4: and she'll go do it, you know. And so there's
Speaker 4: different stages in this whole parenting world that you know,
Speaker 4: you start to figure out, like you know, baby stuff,
Speaker 4: and you're pregnant, Like that's the period of grace. Like
Speaker 4: give yourself as much grace as possible. You have a
Speaker 4: two year old, like you know, cook for you and
Speaker 4: your husband, and you're cooking probably something totally different for
Speaker 4: your two year old most likely, right or a little
Speaker 4: bit of versions of what you're cooking for you.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got a three month old I'm just like,
Speaker 3: she's just it's like every time I go to pick
Speaker 3: up a skillet, I feel like she's hungry.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, there is nothing too Like again,
Speaker 2: like you Tiffany, like we don't have nanny's like, we're
Speaker 2: not getting a nanny. So it's like, yeah, trying to
Speaker 2: juggle it with work and the other kids on top
Speaker 2: of it in the sports and stuff. It's like, but
Speaker 2: I get, but I still get envious watching some girls
Speaker 2: that I follow on Instagram and they're just like baking.
Speaker 4: See that's where social media is st Yeah, you can't
Speaker 4: do that. Everybody's life is different. You don't know that
Speaker 4: woman and how much help she has or maybe that's
Speaker 4: all she does, right is that's the only thing she
Speaker 4: does do and.
Speaker 5: She's able to do that. Like everybody has a different backstory.
Speaker 4: Just because what they're putting out on social media doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that that's exactly what it is, you know, and so,
Speaker 4: and that's another thing, Like I think twenty fifty, I'm
Speaker 4: just like it's it's nobody's perfect.
Speaker 5: You have to do what works for you and your
Speaker 5: own sanity.
Speaker 1: I think even if I had all the time in
Speaker 1: the world, I'm just not good at cooking. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's okay, And that's.
Speaker 5: Just another realcing.
Speaker 1: I mean, my husband is thankfully my dad was the cook,
Speaker 1: so it's beautiful.
Speaker 5: I just you were you were. You rely on him
Speaker 5: to do that, and that's lovely and that's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Helper. That's when I grew up. I'm my mom.
Speaker 3: I didn't I thought chicken was supposed to need like, well,
Speaker 3: that's it was so burnt. Like every time I get
Speaker 3: to my plate, it was like So I always felt
Speaker 3: like like I I am determined to change the course
Speaker 3: of this. And I even said to my husband last night, actually,
Speaker 3: I was like, watch our kids be Hamburger helper.
Speaker 1: People like sometime get hamburger Helper and I'm like, we
Speaker 1: cannot have hamburger. And he's like, well, it's just tonight,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you don't know how traumatized I am
Speaker 1: by hamburger helper. We cannot feed our kids hamburger. You
Speaker 1: know I have I have another version that's better, that's
Speaker 1: in my books.
Speaker 2: What is your favorite That is one of your favorite
Speaker 2: recipes that you have in your new cookbook.
Speaker 5: Oh that's hard. It's like picking a favorite child.
Speaker 1: Big one for us that we might are not the
Speaker 1: best cooks, like what.
Speaker 4: Would be the best because it's so easy and I
Speaker 4: feel like everybody has this left ar too. One is pizza.
Speaker 4: We always have pizza as leftover, and I love cold pizza.
Speaker 4: But I have a great way where you can repurpose
Speaker 4: your pizza for a breakfast sandwich in.
Speaker 5: The morning, pizza that night.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
Speaker 5: And then rices. We have leftover rice half the time.
Speaker 4: I mean I usually always make a huge batch of rice,
Speaker 4: and whether it goes into tako buls or whether my
Speaker 4: kids love sushi, so we sometimes do make homemade sushi,
Speaker 4: which is actually doesn't take a lot of time. Leftover
Speaker 4: rice is great to make the sushi cakes that they love,
Speaker 4: and they can put the avocado and the tuna and
Speaker 4: you know, the cucumbers and all that kind of stuff
Speaker 4: on top of it. Again something they can do. I
Speaker 4: know you guys aren't at that stage yet, but when
Speaker 4: the kids are older, super fun.
Speaker 3: I love that also landlocked here in Nashville, so that's fine,
Speaker 3: but I'm just kind of replacement for that tuna. I
Speaker 3: want you to start thinking about us landlocked folks over here.
Speaker 5: Okay. I got a lot of other stuff.
Speaker 3: It's not just it's not just what I want that
Speaker 3: I actually want to come over tonight and hey, well next.
Speaker 2: Time, next time, if you ever come to Nashville, like
Speaker 2: just just come on over and we can do that.
Speaker 2: We can do a cooking night.
Speaker 5: I have so many and my La friends that all
Speaker 5: moved to Nashville.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we know.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm super good at driving. Here is what I've noticed.
Speaker 3: But that's just a story for another time.
Speaker 5: Because they suck dry. This morning, they got what they
Speaker 5: got weather and they're like what I was like, it's
Speaker 5: striking crinkle West Coast.
Speaker 1: We can do this.
Speaker 5: Everybody, well, t thank you. We had that hurricane come
Speaker 5: through La.
Speaker 1: People were pay and I can only imagine La was like, and.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw, but we got an
Speaker 4: earthquake the same day, and we were like, this is it,
Speaker 4: this is the world.
Speaker 2: I would have slown out that day. I would have
Speaker 2: been so scared, like it's ending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you get on a plane while all that
Speaker 1: is happening.
Speaker 2: You know me, they're getting a car.
Speaker 1: You can make me drive you off.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh Timmy, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 2: on the show. Everyone grabbing new cooks here we go again.
Speaker 1: Thanks for validating us.
Speaker 5: We love you always. Of course, the older mama right here,
Speaker 5: you're no, you're it's.
Speaker 2: The perfect mama sister. Okay like it my friends, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: well she's amazing. Love her. I'd definitely gonna get her cookbook.
Speaker 3: I love maybe cookbook. Do you know it matters to
Speaker 3: me to be able to flip pages. I know people
Speaker 3: Pinterest recipes all the time, but I really love like
Speaker 3: a good cookbook.
Speaker 1: I just can't cook, so I have to have a recipe,
Speaker 1: so that's very helpful from the pages. I like to
Speaker 1: like tab them.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite books in my house is for
Speaker 3: my grandma.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: All her little scribbles and like flower stains and whatever else.
Speaker 5: Is on there.
Speaker 1: It's magic to me. That is really cute.
Speaker 2: I like that. I'm just thinking about, yeah, my grandma.
Speaker 2: But I like, I don't understand like they I feel
Speaker 2: like they still added things post they did and it
Speaker 2: was always like a pinch.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's why I can't cook, because they throwing stuff
Speaker 1: or she just would write flower eggs milk.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, okay, I'm gonna just help a couple
Speaker 2: of eggs, A couple of eggs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a few cups of milk.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 2: So I think I'm at the point where I'm just
Speaker 2: overwhelmed with everything and I'm just like, cancel everything.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've been there.
Speaker 2: Cancel showers, cancel weddings. Just just cancel.
Speaker 5: Do you mean just like are we do you need work?
Speaker 4: Life?
Speaker 2: Like work or like when it involves yeah, like in
Speaker 2: planning things and people schedule, I'm like, just forget it.
Speaker 2: Let's not do it. Let's forget it, let's not get married,
Speaker 2: let's forget it. Let's not have a baby shower. Like
Speaker 2: I'm like, forget it. Like Julie text me their night going, okay,
Speaker 2: so what's the weekend the shower? And I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want then.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the one planning, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So I was like, I got nothing
Speaker 2: my plate.
Speaker 1: I was like, I sup wish I didn't respond back
Speaker 1: to planned it. I thought we did too.
Speaker 2: Well, we didn't because we don't have a place.
Speaker 1: Well we did because we did have a place, but
Speaker 1: now we don't have a place, so we have to
Speaker 1: start over.
Speaker 2: We'll just get back to you on what you're But then,
Speaker 2: like I don't even want I don't even want a shower.
Speaker 1: This is how I felt. All I wanted was a
Speaker 1: dinner with you.
Speaker 2: Had balloon arches and flying butterflies. This is what came
Speaker 2: out of an invitation.
Speaker 1: They did, they fluttered, they did not.
Speaker 5: I don't want a balloon arch.
Speaker 1: I don't want anything.
Speaker 3: I know I didn't want it either. But what happens
Speaker 3: is appreciated.
Speaker 1: And oh I loved it.
Speaker 3: I mean it was the most sincere, like just from
Speaker 3: the heart easy. But what's tricky is I wanted just
Speaker 3: like a little candle at dinner with just like a
Speaker 3: few girlfriends. But I truly don't want anyone to be
Speaker 3: left out.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's hard, really hard.
Speaker 3: I mean queendom itself if I is six people, right,
Speaker 3: and so that's just queendom.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So if I invite like that Ashley, that's already you know,
Speaker 3: already at nine and I think once it gets too big,
Speaker 3: you just dare just anyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I just was like, it's either nothing or
Speaker 1: it's a beginning. Why don't we just do a dinner.
Speaker 2: I think they just get really overwhelmed for me, where
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't want it to be a
Speaker 2: I don't want it to be a big thing. I
Speaker 2: don't want it to be a big deal, like this
Speaker 2: is my third baby. I understand it's you know, a
Speaker 2: couple of years past, but I'm like, I don't need anything.
Speaker 2: All I would really want is like you girls to
Speaker 2: like come over in pj's and I you know, I'm
Speaker 2: a game girl, so I'd like to play a few
Speaker 2: cute little games like shower, Let's go. That's the That's
Speaker 2: my kind of jam. Like, I don't want it to
Speaker 2: be a big production. I don't want to be a
Speaker 2: big thing because I just feel bad, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I like, I get like I start to just feel bad,
Speaker 2: and then I'm like and now having said that, this
Speaker 2: is when I flipped to the other side. My fortieth birthday.
Speaker 2: I want it to being amazing, all your resources, like
Speaker 2: that is what I want to have, Like you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, because I'm like, I've been wanting my
Speaker 2: fortieth for ten years since my thirtieth, like underneath my covers.
Speaker 2: But again, it can just be like it can be
Speaker 2: still chill, but I still want to do something. Like
Speaker 2: that's something where I'm like, I really want to do something,
Speaker 2: And obviously I would like, I want to do like
Speaker 2: I would love, you know, a little something with you guys,
Speaker 2: But I don't want all the things same and I.
Speaker 3: Don't like gadgets. My registry was like nothing because I
Speaker 3: just didn't. I just don't like a lot of things.
Speaker 3: I got a lot of hand me down things, which
Speaker 3: was great, and two girlfriends had a baby like two
Speaker 3: years ago, and then one year it goes perfect.
Speaker 1: I'd rather be like, what did you have you not
Speaker 1: gotten that you want? Tell me and I'll get it.
Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want you anything. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't need anything, right, Let's just hang out and
Speaker 2: I literally need anything. I mean, I'm sure I need
Speaker 2: jes do, I need diype berds and all. But guys,
Speaker 2: come on, you know what I mean. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to like Amazon Prime guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't like. I don't. I just don't.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, but I will see that.
Speaker 2: It just becomes overwhelming with people's schedules and everyone's trying
Speaker 2: to figure out and then I'm like, oh, now they're
Speaker 2: trying to like move things around because this person's got
Speaker 2: softball in this day and this person and now I
Speaker 2: just feel like it's a big inconvenience. I'm just like,
Speaker 2: forget it.
Speaker 3: This is why to say I didn't want to involve
Speaker 3: you at all. Anyways, I had people take the reins
Speaker 3: for me and they said do you have the state open?
Speaker 3: And I said yes, and they said no further questions.
Speaker 2: See, that's what I need.
Speaker 1: I can't be the one I got you in and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you text us and I go, oh,
Speaker 1: we got the captain of the ship. Yeah, but here's
Speaker 1: also the problem with that with you, not a problem,
Speaker 1: but the the problem with that is you truly want
Speaker 1: just your queendom, and you want your queendom there. So
Speaker 1: it's like if we just go are you available for
Speaker 1: this date? And then three of the queendom can't.
Speaker 2: Be there, then we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy with that because I can do
Speaker 1: any of the dates.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll cancel, but you're doing we already have a date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll keep forgetting it's on my calendar and everyone else.
Speaker 3: Well, the problem I would say this so it was
Speaker 3: phrased to me this way, which I also enjoyed. We
Speaker 3: have prayed for these babies and it means a lot
Speaker 3: for people to gather around, just the energy of nothing else.
Speaker 1: I like that that's what we need.
Speaker 2: I would love it. I just don't want all the
Speaker 2: arches and the cookies and the whatever, because that's.
Speaker 1: What's gotten to.
Speaker 3: In case she wondered, what there's like a lot of
Speaker 3: activity is going on with your Can we just play
Speaker 3: horseback riding?
Speaker 1: I don't know that she's getting.
Speaker 2: Obviously we're not getting I'm not gonna.
Speaker 5: We're not going there anymore.
Speaker 1: We'rely going to go gallop me. We're not going there anymore.
Speaker 1: We're not even going to.
Speaker 3: Thought I was snuggling up with PJ, so let me
Speaker 3: ask you this.
Speaker 1: With her Pittsburgh self. Yeah, it was planned, but we're changing.
Speaker 2: Well anyways, I just I don't know if you guys
Speaker 2: are like that too, but I just was kind of
Speaker 2: thinking that because the same thing with like the wedding
Speaker 2: planning is kind of everything's just getting like very I'm
Speaker 2: just getting very overwhelmed. A lot of things of like
Speaker 2: like what's transpired transpired I was gonna say prescribed about
Speaker 2: So it's just I get to that place where I'm
Speaker 2: just like f it, forget it. I don't want to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, so the same. And I know I
Speaker 1: would always people. I mean, I don't blame and I.
Speaker 2: Always like I would probably regret it a year later,
Speaker 2: like when an actual date would have been. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: we should have just done it. But I just get
Speaker 2: so over I just and like it just becomes too much.
Speaker 2: Then I'm like, forget it, move on. I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to deal with it. It's
Speaker 2: too much because it doesn't at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: It's like it's just it's not that like a shower
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, a wedding doesn't matter. Obviously, those are very
Speaker 2: important things. You know what sucks about it? And this
Speaker 2: is what I said to Pam and I we went
Speaker 2: to we had like a little labor day chill day,
Speaker 2: and you know, she was like, why don't you just
Speaker 2: go away? And I go, you know, I go of
Speaker 2: all the weddings because I've had two weddings. I go,
Speaker 2: I wanted to Elope so badly on my last wedding
Speaker 2: because I didn't want a wedding. I did not want
Speaker 2: it at all. That was for my ex, like did
Speaker 2: not want one. He's the only like, Alan's the only
Speaker 2: person I want to marry, like I actually want a
Speaker 2: wedding with, Like I want to have that like experience
Speaker 2: with So that's why I'm like, I still am like
Speaker 2: trying to like you know, I just put again, I
Speaker 2: just get overwhelmed. And that's my personality.
Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, do we haven't canceled the wedding.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just really like it's just it's just a
Speaker 2: lot because I I'm trying to do something that's like
Speaker 2: involved activities and other people and flying and then it's
Speaker 2: it all comes back to this point. It feels like
Speaker 2: I'm going to be inconveniencing people with money and their time.
Speaker 3: Well that's not true because I can't wait.
Speaker 2: So but again that's how it feels. Anything that inconveniences
Speaker 2: other people with their time or money, then I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. Never mind, Yeah, because
Speaker 2: it's like the scheduling and oh I got this, and
Speaker 2: I don't know how I'm gonna do this. Well I
Speaker 2: don't want to go there without the I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: then forget.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I literally just say I'll just be there. I can
Speaker 3: make any day work. Yeah, for a wedding, of course, No,
Speaker 3: I meant for like shower.
Speaker 2: Whatever it's my I'll take it to Amy. But it's
Speaker 2: just it gives me like, I know it's good though.
Speaker 1: You're inclusive and you want your kid. I totally hear you.
Speaker 1: The good news is we do have a date for
Speaker 1: whatever you want this shower to look like. Does not
Speaker 1: have to have arches, It does not have to have horses,
Speaker 1: does not.
Speaker 5: Have to be what it was.
Speaker 1: It could be pajamas and games. Whether they like to
Speaker 1: play games or not to play games.
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 2: I personally like a one baby shower game. Like I
Speaker 2: like some of those funny games. I think they're fun.
Speaker 3: Clothes pins the old Michigan.
Speaker 2: Anyways. Okay, well, well we'll pin all this and see
Speaker 2: how I feel once we move into the new house.
Speaker 1: Because that's the probably stress problem, like overwhelming all the things.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you guys next week