WEBVTT - MJGMB #168: Finals Breakdown and Thibs Talk with Megan Gailey 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.000 So we made a sign for my parents' front yard 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.000 that says Hunk for Haliburton because he drives right by 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.960 my parents' house to go to the stadium. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.120 Jabari shameless laughing. 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:18.880 I did have a friend of mine who's a black 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:23.120 woman go that's so white, and it's like, well, guess what, 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:24.920 Tyre's is half white, so the white side of him 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:25.320 will love it. 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:27.520 Yeah, shout Brenda. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:28.600 Yes. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.560 And so Jade took a picture of it and put 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:36.879 it on her finals carousel. She did accidentally leave in 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:41.800 our address, and I said, good, I commented, I commented, 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:43.240 that's our house, not my house. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.120 At my parents house. I said, that's our that's my house, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:45.840 that's my yard. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.400 And we have a new sign because then we added 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.120 another sign on top of the mailbox. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.239 It said be love. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.040 Pacers, nice theirs. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.040 I do have a major baby the lemma happening regarding 0:00:58.080 --> 0:00:59.520 the Pacers. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.080 So his middle name is going to be my dad's name. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.600 And then I was like, well, if the Pacers make 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.880 the finals, we're giving him a Pacers middle name because 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.400 his middle name is Jaylen for Jalen Rose. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.880 Obviously, and now I'm like, I'm going to change the 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.400 middle name. But I don't want my dad to be upset. 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.160 Well, I mean you could say this is sort of 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.680 like in a In the Jewish tradition, it's tabooed to 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.559 name a child after a living parent. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.280 Yeah, named after a hang out in Mexico. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:30.320 You have four names? 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.480 Okay, four names? 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.919 J to just slide another name, Just slide another one. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.080 Ye, Jeff with the G. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.319 So it's gonna be like Jeff Pascal. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:45.759 Yeah, that's kind of cool. Jeff Pascal, Jeff t Mid. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.600 Okay, see, now can you get away? 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:50.240 Can you get away with Jeff T? 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.680 I mean, I don't want to name him after Jeff Jeff. 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:56.919 Debt, Jeff. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.120 It's the NBA Finals. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:08.200 You ever heard of it? 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:08.440 All? 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:08.800 Right? 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.000 Well we are here? 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:11.840 Yeah? 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.520 Well sorry, ever heard of it? Ever heard of it? 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.360 Ever heard of them? The finals? 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:16.680 Sorry? 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.519 It's world, But we are here. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.760 And contrary to the marketing surrounding the holidays, this is 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:28.320 the most time I know, what's his face? 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.079 Andy, what's his Face's family could be pretty religious, so 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.280 I didn't say the whole thing either way. Yeah, Andy 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.079 Williams family is very religious. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.760 But anyway, the two best teams are in the NBA Finals, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.280 and the basketball between the Thunder and Pacers is. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.000 Going to be mouthwatering. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.639 Uh, and we're gonna get into some of the matchups expectations. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:51.080 But the hilarious singular Megan Daily on today's episode, I'm 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:52.079 Miles Gray. 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:57.600 And I'm Jack O'Brien and this is god. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:10.120 Yeah, okay, driving. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:28.799 That's secures, be honest, what you. 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:38.600 Oh, comedian, comedian, extraordinary sport we have here also the 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.760 greatest Indiana Pacers fan of all times. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.320 Guests ever on this podcast. Yes, I think yes. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.760 And now look at you last. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.280 I think you're pregnant then too. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.560 I'm always people are like, you're pregnant so much? 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:58.880 I know, yeah, I think it's what do you think 0:03:58.960 --> 0:03:59.920 I came here for? 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.880 Oh my god, you got there in the finals? 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:06.560 Good? 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.600 So I guess do we just wrap up some other 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.120 stuff around the league before whatever Tims tis. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:15.040 Done? 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.960 Like immediately, I'm surprised, and I know I shouldn't be 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:24.520 because James Dolan, he reminds me so much of what 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.479 would have happened if we just let Trump buy that 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:33.200 NFL team, right, have a team better timeline? 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.239 So yeah, all right, So I don't like blaming the coach. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.240 Usually I don't think it was his fault. I think 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:44.520 like the roster has some limitations that said, you can't 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:48.200 break this team up at this like, and I feel 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.479 like you gotta do something. And he got out coached, 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:54.679 and you know, he got out coached by the out 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:59.200 coacher in chief, you know, in Rick Carlisle, the only 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.480 person who I think I've ever seen just out coach 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.920 the other coach like every single round to a championship 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.920 back in twenty eleven. So like, I feel like, no shame. 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.760 At the same time, I don't know, it's it made sense, 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.239 like this is this is a you can't really change 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:18.880 much about this. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.479 Roster and it's not a TIBs roster. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.880 So yeah, I just I mean, I love that you 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.839 don't like to blame the coach as a coach's son. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:26.880 That's weird. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.360 I think you're like, yeah, my dad is right. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.560 I think it was never my dad's fault, But other 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:33.720 coaches it. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.200 Wasn't even study of. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:39.479 Your dad's teams left it. It is there is and 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.360 it happens in the NFL too. There is this assumption 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.719 that there's just a better coach out there, and it's 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.200 like there's not like there there's all these firings that 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.760 have happened, and it's like, okay, and what is the play. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.720 I know Knicks fans are delusional because they've been in 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:57.480 my DMS. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.160 Sorry if you tell. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.520 Knicks fans at the start of this season you're gonna 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.160 go to the Eastern Conference Finals. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.560 I don't think they're like him to a cheat. That's 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.279 an overachievement. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.280 Yeah, that's more than what anybody expected. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:18.279 And beating the Celtics on the way, like definitively he did. 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.320 More with less, And like I am critical of TIBs 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.760 because I want him to get married. You know, I 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.320 think he's an eligible bachelor and I want a gal 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.040 to scoop him up. But it's like, even in what 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.559 you criticize him, like he doesn't play enough guys. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:34.920 Who else do you want him to play? 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:35.360 Personally? 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:36.160 I want him to play p J. 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.200 Tucker because he's my number one celeb crush. But like, 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.919 it's not like he was leaving guys on the bench 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.320 that like had more to give. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:46.720 Yeah, I don't think. 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:52.000 I like it was it's like, okay, I understand that move. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:53.840 And then people are like, so, who's it going to 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:59.159 be Coach Bud. I was like, wait, coach Bud, like 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.520 like that that just happened with the Sons where they 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.960 were like, we're firing Vogel it was his fault, all right, 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.560 We're gonna go with coach Bud. It was like, wait, 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.160 I don't think that's necessarily the step up that you 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.880 guys seeming on that real quick even you. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.960 Like bring up vocal and it's like the Lakers should 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:17.320 have never fired Franklin. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.640 Like like you look. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.160 There now, there this many coaches past that, and I 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.920 think they're probably like, well, that was a mistake, like 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:29.320 they I still think about the time when the Pacers 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.280 fired Nate McMillan and go, I wish we hadn't done that. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:33.680 Like there there's. 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:38.880 Just so much like yet easy scapego and obviously they 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.240 know more than we do. Like maybe they're like Jaylen 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.280 didn't like him, but I don't like is Rick Brunson leaving? 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:49.280 Are they promoting him like his dad is interesting? 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.640 Yeah, people are talking though. 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.640 You know what everybody's saying, would be the ideal coaching replacement, 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.440 You go get Jay Wright, doc Rivers obviously obviously doc 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.119 Rivers always gonna be your first choice, but Jay Wright 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:08.800 and just like go full nova on it just he's 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.480 I mean he retired. He retired at a very young age. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.239 I'm just saying, like, it's going to keep going until 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.000 Jay Wright is the coach and they like make them 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.720 go to class during the day and like play their 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.280 home games in Villanova. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.840 Oh, you guys live now in the NYU dorms. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.080 Actually, I hope on his. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.880 Name he's from that coaching family. The Yukon coach that 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.080 like faked out the Lakers last year who didn't want to. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:37.400 Leave the host coach Dan. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.760 When he's stopping, I love it, and it's like, do 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.440 they try and go get him because then his wife 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.160 could stay in Connecticut and use her same hairdresser. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:50.439 I don't know, that's it. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.079 That's the main thing. That's the main question. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:57.400 I can't wait to see who does that one, because 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.520 from all it, from all available evidence, that's going to 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.560 go badly for whoever. I hope it's not the Knicks 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.719 who make that mistake, because I just sometimes you can 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.160 be too tightly wound for the NBA, and I think 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.040 crazy we might be dealing with one of those. But yeah, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.920 I don't I one hundred percent agree. I was like, Okay, 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.160 I see where they're going and then any of the 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.240 names that have been mentioned. I'm like, wait, for real, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.600 that's where we're at, like already. I mean, yeah, maybe Vogel. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.880 I don't know. There are good coaches out there. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.880 Maybe I know his buyout just dropped from ten million 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:35.040 to one million. Maybe Bill Belichick, like he is the 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.880 best coach available. They're just like, could he do it? 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:38.320 That's right? 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.119 Yeah, maybe we go Belichick. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.040 He just needs to sign Tom Brady for a toork. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.440 I know Knicks fans are really sad. I'd like to 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.800 remind Knicks fans that the Knicks are still on television 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.440 right now because Charles Oakley's wife is on this season 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.400 of Real Housewives of Atlanta and he is delivering some 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:01.760 of the most incredible apathetic house husband energy that has 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:08.120 ever been experienced. No, notes doesn't doesn't like anyone. There's 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.800 like a rumor that he had a baby out of wedlock, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.200 and she's like, can you clear this up? 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.760 And he's like, I don't really care, Like it's. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:18.920 Just I don't even want to put forth the energy. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.840 Chiming in being like it seems like you don't like 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.160 your wife, and he's like, let them believe what they want. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:25.439 Wow. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.360 Wow, I mean he's going off the. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:30.880 Bravo. 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:35.679 Yeah, it's uh, it's interesting times for Knicks fans. I agree, 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:40.200 like they they did everything I wanted them to, a 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:41.600 huge salute to them. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.720 The content I came for absolutely the Celtics. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.559 I say, as long as the Celtics don't fire their coach, 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.240 I'm happy because you know. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.400 He we need him, we need him, he is the one. 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.240 Him and then Jason Tatum at the end of games 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.120 of the two things that are keeping the rest of 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.400 the league in this uh, you know, prior to the injury, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.600 like Mozola got out coached by the guy who just 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:10.160 got fired. Let's let's stick with that one, baby, Let's 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:11.320 run it back. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:13.760 Here's an idea, coach swamp. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.520 No, I don't want that really fun do not want. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.200 But actually, speaking of Knicks fans and your DMS, Megan, 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.199 So after that first Game one and ty Reese hit 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:27.880 the choke, I remember, I hit you up because you 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.720 post on your stories and for me it wasn't because 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:31.360 I took offense. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.199 I was just like, okay, this is I don't want 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.800 to jinx it. And I was like, choke too soon. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.320 In game one, You're like, nah, they choke was not 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:41.000 You're like, what else do you do? 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:41.680 You do the choke? 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:42.000 Choke? 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.000 I was like it had been like if it had 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.120 been like trading towards the end, but they actually choked, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.800 he has said, and I and I do believe this 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.200 is true. He's like, if I had known it was 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.000 a two, I never would have done that, you know, 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.200 like he hit the choke, we thought it was a three. 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.040 My toddler will not stop doing. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:03.199 He didn't choke, like the International sign of choking you 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.160 need your toddler to learn is like not a not 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.320 off limits. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.040 He is like dunking on little type things and then 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.200 doing the choke to our entire family. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.680 Has anyone done the original Reggie Miller choke? But in 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.280 that painting the scream, I feel like that could be really. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:25.000 Sorry. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.480 That's for a very talented Pacers fan to make. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.000 But yeah, here we are, here. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.440 We are tattoos. I don't know that that person exists. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.000 So what do you want? A flag or a gun? 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.680 This must have been such an incredible run. I have 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:53.360 been more thrilled by this Pacers team coming in completely 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.480 no horse of the ring, you know, like I love 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:00.560 Giannis so like that first series I I was like, 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.520 the Pacers are gonna win this. I would like to 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.240 see it be a good series. And so you know, 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.560 I've never been like really rooting for them to just 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.040 like take the team out, but every single time, like 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.040 they just the comebacks have been It's the only time 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.600 I was like texting Jamari and Miles like during that 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.640 Milwaukee comeback, just being like what just yeah, like I've 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.000 I've never seen anything like that, and they've done that 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.080 every single round. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.080 Yeah, It's it's unbelievable. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.640 Like I I am very confused by what what like 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.080 what the odds are heading into these finals. I just 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.800 I feel like there's like a force of nature vibe 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:46.679 to both of these teams. Obviously the thunder a little 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.360 on the nose. To have a force of nature vibe 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:50.319 to your team when. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.319 Storms, we have tornadoes, we are also part of tornado. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.840 You guys are also like cornerly on the nose with Pacers, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.360 and like you win with pace. It's like the Warriors 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.600 were like the Golden State three point shoot shot makers. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.000 It's like all right, man, it's. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:10.080 Yeah. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:14.680 There is definitely like the magic that feels yeah, and 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.480 and I think that happens with Super Bowl runs too, 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.080 where it's just like, oh, this team had like destiny, 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:24.840 a coach had a sick kid, and we got the 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.440 recipe and now they're good to go. Yeah they are. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.040 Because I've watched a good amount of regular season games. 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:36.440 They're a maddening team because you just see them be 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:40.040 able to do this and then sometimes like not be 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:44.880 doing it, and you know, yes and and you and nothing. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:45.480 Bothers me more. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.440 And this makes me feel like an elder than seeing 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:53.040 Miles or anyone over seven feet just jack up a 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.360 three and I'm like getting the paint. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:56.440 I'm at myles turning. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:58.720 I'm not in the finals. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.480 You're right should be, but there there does seem And 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.960 that's why when people, you know, and they're again dming 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.320 me and they're like you're gonna get your ass kicked, 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.280 it's like, well, what would have happened to you, guys, because. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.120 We just kicked your acts. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:15.440 So I do. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.760 Think I get that people are like the thunder are 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.400 gonna rock them, but it's like we don't know enough 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.600 about the thunder in these type of situations to be like, yeah, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.000 they're just gonna be fine. 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:26.400 Well, it's the. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.520 Same thing people are like, well you know, the Pacers 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.000 never seen a defense like the Thunder, and the Thunder 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.200 have never seen an offense like the Pacers. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:33.920 Nobody has. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.960 Yeah, they have the only comebacks of that size in 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.160 that amount of time in NBA history. Uh and they 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.360 did it three times. Nobody's seen an offense like this. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.280 And that's why when people are like, oh, no, one's 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.200 gonna watch this, it's like, Okay, first of all, do 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.960 you work for ABC? Why do you care? And then 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.160 if you were to say, what doesn't matter to you? 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:59.640 You know, like is your job in jeopardy? And then 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.960 if you were to be like, the best defense is 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.240 going up against the best offense, regardless of where they're playing. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.000 To me as a fan, that's exciting to see because 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.360 you get to see who. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:11.240 Wins, that happens. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.760 And I know I keep saying this, like this happens 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.680 in the NFL all the time. We are we would 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.360 never be like get the Packers out of here. That's 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.240 the smallest market in all of sports. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.080 Right, and we're not like Boob Green. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.600 Bay, you tiny losers were right, Oh they've got something 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:27.120 going on. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.640 Let's see some magic happen ryes. 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:30.800 Yeah exactly. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.160 But just to like speak to the odds. This is 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.440 the big the most lopsided odds heading into a finals 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:44.240 since Kevin Durant was on the Golden State three point 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:50.520 shoot makers. Like yeah, like the year where they swept Lebron, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.880 like the one where there is like Lebron played better 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.120 than I've ever seen anybody play in a single game 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.600 in game one and they still lost because that Jared Smith. 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:04.480 Yeah, oh im that year, that game with someone so annoying. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.639 That year when they were like so unstoppable. That was 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.280 the last time anyone was favored by this much. And 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:15.080 I agree, like, okay, Ce has looked awesome at times 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.720 in these playoffs, but like there were games against the 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:25.720 Nuggets where their offense was like really struggling, like really struggling. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.640 And I mean yeah, because if it's not if it's 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:32.080 not Shaye, then like Chet or j Dub has to 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.159 step up, and if they're both gone, then it's like, 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:35.840 m now you got problems. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:36.600 Now you got problems. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.400 Yeah, And I think with the Jokic thing, I feel 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.520 like that's where I know Miles Turner's three point shooting 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.080 was frustrating, but that's where I see like something from 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.480 that Denver series or Yeah, that the that the Pacers 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.359 can replicate because having Miles Turner out there as a 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.000 shooting threat too, that spreads them, That spreads them out. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:53.320 Thing. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.320 They can have nine guys that score twenty points and 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.399 like that's not even like I know that sounds crazy, 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.960 but it's like you like they'll be like, Okay, Benedict's had. 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.600 Twenty one points. It's like he did. 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.439 Carlisle was going to kill him yesterday. Like they just 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.000 they just have these guys that can score. And it's 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.400 just I would understand if it was a lopsided if 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.440 like OKAC had like swept through the playoffs and won 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.040 last year, like if they were but it's like, what, 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:25.480 what is it that we are so certain that this 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:30.360 coach whose name I don't even remember, Yeah. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.000 They marked he's good. 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.280 Okay, I will say, like this is the best coach 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.400 that the Pacers have faced in the this year. 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:39.680 Yeah, but not better? 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:41.800 Is not He's not better than Carlile. I don't think 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.800 an adjustments, Like I truly like still put Carlisle in 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:50.040 a separate category. Maybe Spolstra is like in there because 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:51.960 he was able to take that eight seed Heat team 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:57.080 to the finals, But like Carlisle taking Dallas like to 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.879 a title in twenty eleven, Like he's just able to 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.560 figure things out in a seven game series that are 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.679 the exact thing that the other team doesn't want you 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.080 to figure out and like put you in a weird 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.879 like just what they did to like Brunson, where you 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.359 know you just almost like didn't want Brunson bringing the 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.960 ball up the court, like, which is crazy, like you 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:20.800 always want the ball in his hands. But like if 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.560 you're a Knicks fan, you're kind of like, ah, like 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:25.800 they he's he's able to find a way to like 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.720 just really show the fissures and then you know, great 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:29.600 coaching staff. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.280 I do think so last time Pacers run was two thousand, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.080 it was that they came up against an incredible you know, 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.120 Kobe Shack Lakers team. 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.600 It only went five. It was it was a gentleman's sweep. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:43.160 It was quick. 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.520 Like it's like, yeah, okay, I could I could see 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:47.120 that happening. 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.439 That would not shock me. I think there's way more. 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.680 Pressure on the Thunder, especially for like a young team 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:55.720 that hasn't actually accomplished anything yet. And this whole time, 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.439 what I do think has made the Pacers scary and 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.639 what always makes teams scary is that they are playing 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.160 with house money. It was like, okay, great, we've got 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:07.119 nothing to lose now, yea, so let's go out. They 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:11.720 like being at game six, it was so crazy the 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.360 amount of fast breaks, Like it felt like they had 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.159 seventy five and that the Knicks had zero. And it 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.000 was like the first half it was like we should 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.679