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Speaker 1: Front Office, Unfiltered. Our resident GM, Jim Bowden is here. JB.

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Speaker 1: First off, I actually think it's worth explaining the sweatshirt.

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Speaker 1: Do you know why he's got a USC.

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Speaker 2: The GM or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a nice little score. I saw the

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Speaker 1: score on Saturday, three to thirteen. Wow, they play that

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Speaker 1: GM put together some team.

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Speaker 3: That's the point, GM, that's the point. Missouri State, Missouri State,

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Speaker 3: Missouri State. I mean, would you rather? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But still another win coming with Georgia Southern on Saturday,

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Speaker 4: So that'll be another romp hopefully, but that'll get him

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Speaker 4: ready for when the schedule gets gets tough. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: that it was a mismagic kind of felt like an

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Speaker 4: NFL team playing eighth graders. Like even on the field

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Speaker 4: prior to the game, I'm like, oh, this is not

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Speaker 4: going to be nice, and it wasn't. But it was

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Speaker 4: a nice win, nice way for him to start his

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Speaker 4: career at USC.

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Speaker 2: Were you on the field? I was, Wow, that's electric.

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Speaker 5: What's better to be on the field for a baseball

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Speaker 5: game or a football college football game?

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Speaker 3: Well, for a baseball game.

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Speaker 4: The only way I was ever on a field is

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Speaker 4: when they put the screen up during a spring training

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Speaker 4: B game and you'd sit right behind home plate. But

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Speaker 4: besides that, you know you're sitting behind home plate in

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Speaker 4: the scouts section, up in the executive box. You're not

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Speaker 4: really on the field as an executive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, better to be right.

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Speaker 3: You're in a much better spot.

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Speaker 5: Being the football game, whether it's college or NFL. The

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Speaker 5: atmospheres are great. You can't see right because you're better off,

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Speaker 5: like being higher almost than you are because on the field,

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Speaker 5: especially at the level that Gym's talking about. I've been

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Speaker 5: on the field for NFL in college. You got to

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Speaker 5: chase the place you always have. It's a lot of walking.

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Speaker 5: You got to jump in front of it, and then

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Speaker 5: there's a turn over. Then you gotta run back to

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Speaker 5: the other end, and you just it's constantly like this

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Speaker 5: because if you get too far behind and then they

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Speaker 5: go all the way to the other end and you're like,

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Speaker 5: I can't see anything.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they just ran it. Did they get a first down?

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Speaker 5: So you want to run up and try to get

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Speaker 5: It's all like two thousand and seven, Florida, Georgia. I

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Speaker 5: was standing on the goal line when the Georgia team

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Speaker 5: charged the field, and I was like, what the hell

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Speaker 5: is happening here.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know what happened, no idea, what was

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Speaker 3: happening right there? The sounds are great, right.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you haven't been on the if you ever

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Speaker 5: get the chance to go on the field for NFL

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Speaker 5: game when they used to do kickoffs, holy.

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Speaker 2: Down and it was full speed, two guys. Sounded like explosions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thing man, All right, let's let's jump into the

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Speaker 1: AL West first, JB. I actually want to start with

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Speaker 1: the whole division. Really, what do you have on the

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Speaker 1: state of the American League West? With the Mariners not

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Speaker 1: figuring out how to win games on the road, the

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Speaker 1: Rangers having a lane and not really taking it, and

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Speaker 1: then Houston gaining a little bit of separation here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think with Seattle, I want to

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Speaker 4: know who did this schedule? Like, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: You get to the dog days of August and you're

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Speaker 4: gonna put them on the road for ten days from

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Speaker 4: August twelfth to the twentieth to play Baltimore, New York

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Speaker 4: and Philadelphia, and then you're gonna send them right back

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Speaker 4: on the road for another nine games on the East

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Speaker 4: Coast in Cleveland, Tampa, and Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who does that.

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Speaker 4: Seattle already always has the worst travel schedule of any

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Speaker 4: team in Major League Baseball by far. We know that,

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Speaker 4: but then you're gonna get to the dog days of

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Speaker 4: August and do that to them twice, Like, come on,

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Speaker 4: that's scheduling.

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Speaker 3: Just it isn't right.

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Speaker 4: And look, I'm not making excuses, but I kind of

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Speaker 4: am because that's tough. That's a grind on players. And look,

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Speaker 4: the big boys last thirty days haven't gotten it done.

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Speaker 3: We get that.

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Speaker 4: Cal Rowly's sitting two eleven, Juhneoswuarez hitting two oh four,

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Speaker 4: Randio Rosearina two oh nine over the last thirty days

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Speaker 4: and three fifths of their rotation not getting it done right.

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Speaker 4: Luis Castillo's era is seven eight eight, George Kirby's is

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Speaker 4: five two three in Logan Gilbert four to sixty two

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Speaker 4: over their last five starts, each of them. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: your star players aren't performing like they have. But I'm

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Speaker 4: telling you this schedule has really hurt them. I think

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Speaker 4: when they settle back and they're done the Atlantic Series

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Speaker 4: and they get home, I think you'll see them start

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Speaker 4: to turn things around. Now for Texas, I think they

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Speaker 4: would have made the playoffs, they not had ridiculous injuries

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Speaker 4: to their star players. Their ace Nathan Novaldi, who is

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Speaker 4: actually in the conversation with Twik Scoublin Garrett Crochet for

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Speaker 4: Cy Young, goes down for the year and they lose them.

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Speaker 4: Then their two most expensive players, Corey Seeger and Marcus

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Speaker 4: Simeon join them they're out for the year. And then

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Speaker 4: Evan Carter, they're a young stud who never got going

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Speaker 4: last year because of injuries.

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Speaker 3: They lose him with a fracture two.

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Speaker 4: So you know, you look at the Texas Rangers, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna fall short, but four key guys they lose for

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Speaker 4: the and they were within striking distance, and so then

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Speaker 4: in terms of Houston, yeah, they're gonna be able to

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Speaker 4: hold on. They're gonna be able to win this division

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Speaker 4: once again, which by the way, is miraculous when you

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Speaker 4: consider losing Bragman, losing Tucker, and then losing Alvarez for

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Speaker 4: a lot of the season, Jeremy paying you for a

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Speaker 4: lot of the season for them to be sitting here

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Speaker 4: and winning the division anyway, great job by GM Dana

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Speaker 4: Brown and manager Joe A Spot.

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Speaker 3: They deserve a lot of credit.

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Speaker 5: You get the whole al West to choose from. Do

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Speaker 5: you take any of them to even make the World Series,

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Speaker 5: let alone win the World Series? Or is this of

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Speaker 5: the divisions a division that you're like, Nah, They're just

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Speaker 5: it's a pillow fight out there, and when they play

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Speaker 5: the better teams, they're all going to be out of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think Seattle can run the table if they're pitching

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Speaker 4: and playing up to performance.

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Speaker 3: I think they have the rotation.

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Speaker 4: I think they have the impact closer, and I certainly

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Speaker 4: think they have enough offense now with the pickups that

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Speaker 4: they did at the trade deadline, getting josh Heneo Suarez

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Speaker 4: from Arizona. Cal Raley's gonna finish first or second in

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Speaker 4: the nb P voting. Randy rose Arena is in the

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Speaker 4: best year of his career. Jay Rod's doing what he

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Speaker 4: always does, which is rake in the second half of

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Speaker 4: the year.

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Speaker 3: Now I look at Seattle.

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Speaker 4: And again it comes down to starting pitching and right

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Speaker 4: now three fists of the rotation not getting it done.

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Speaker 4: But there they have a lot of talent that rotation.

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Speaker 4: So if I was to pick one of the teams

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Speaker 4: come October? Yeah, I think Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Could hey, before we get to fromber and throwing balls

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Speaker 5: at teammates. Uh, I want to ask you did you

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Speaker 5: watch the Did you watch the Mariners game last night

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Speaker 5: against the Rays? They fell behind six nothing and George

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Speaker 5: Kirby chucked one right at low Oh it's not Brandon

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Speaker 5: Lowe's Josh, Josh. There's too many. There was too many

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Speaker 5: lows and Lyles on the Rays forever. So if he

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Speaker 5: hits him, how do you I mean, is that just

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Speaker 5: something that happens? Because the Rays broadcast went after min

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Speaker 5: Brian Anderson and in uh not callous?

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Speaker 2: Is it callous? No? Uh? The guy from the.

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Speaker 5: Stats stops Stotts Strange Statts went after We were like, hey,

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Speaker 5: you don't be throwing dude, Like if is this a

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Speaker 5: thing still in baseball where you get mad and just

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Speaker 5: chuck the ball.

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Speaker 2: I'm not accusing Kirby, but it looked pretty bad.

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Speaker 4: Did you hear him post game two? By the way, No, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it looked really bad. I didn't like it. I didn't

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Speaker 4: like it at all. Look, I don't mind a picture

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Speaker 4: getting frustrated when hitters are leaning over and you want

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Speaker 4: to knock him back a little bit to get them

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Speaker 4: off the plate so they don't lean over like that.

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Speaker 4: I'm okay with that, But when you're frustrating, frustrated because

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Speaker 4: they're hitting you and it's on you, then I'd never

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Speaker 4: liked that or appreciated that.

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Now we'll go to Fromer. By the way, what

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Speaker 5: Kirby say postgame?

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Speaker 5: All right, now, let's let's go to the Fromber situation.

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Speaker 5: Have you ever been on a team where something like

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Speaker 5: this has happened? You know, someone's accused of trying to

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Speaker 5: intentionally hurt a guy on his own team. Not that

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Speaker 5: we're seeing that happen, but you know people are talking

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Speaker 5: about this. Of course Fromer comes out. No, it wasn't intentional.

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Speaker 5: Have you ever seen anything like this.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like at the major league level.

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Speaker 4: I have seen it at the minor league level when

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Speaker 4: I was a farm director. I saw it, unfortunately, but

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Speaker 4: I'd never seen at the big league level like that.

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Speaker 4: And the body language was absolutely terrible. I mean, to me,

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Speaker 4: it looked totally intentional, and I think it's hard to

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Speaker 4: I think right after it happened, I thought Valdez would

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Speaker 4: which he didn't. He just turned around and looked out

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Speaker 4: in the center field. So it looked intentional. It was disgusting.

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Speaker 5: Are you completely because of this one action and I

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Speaker 4: You know how hard it is to get pitchers that finish

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Speaker 1: Do you think that he should have publicly apologized versus

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're always better at being transparent. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I mean, look, it's a huge blow. What

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Speaker 3: He always overachieves.

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Speaker 4: But it's been great to watch Rome and Anthony. Without

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Speaker 5: Jim, Aren't they happy they signed Anthony and Campbell and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but good job.

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Speaker 4: But keep in mind, aj like the savings isn't on

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Speaker 3: It's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: It's been unfortunate that it's happened at the level it

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's like USC before nil, they were just paying guys.

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Speaker 2: Just no one knew about it, right, everyone was I

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Speaker 2: Who do you trust more? Who do you trust more?

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Speaker 5: The Red Sox and where they're at, or the Yankees

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, what the heck is happening to

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Speaker 5: Mind how much do you as a front office get

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Speaker 5: Into boone's, ear BECAUSE i know The yankees' front office

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Speaker 4: Yeah i've always been a big believer in what The

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Speaker 4: care less what your history. IS i want the best

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Speaker 1: Pitch that sounds like The mets right now with all

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Speaker 1: WITH jb once we See brandon spread debut over the. WEEKEND,

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Speaker 1: jb thank.

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Speaker 5: You for the.

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Speaker 1: Time great stuff is always good to see you Go.

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Speaker 3: Trojans thanks, guys