WEBVTT - “I PICK UP MY AUNT’S POOP”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hey, what's up this Lyle? Yeah? Who is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Map?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up Matt? How's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, life's been pretty terrible in all honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's fucking get into it, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess since since like COVID hit, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuck in this house taking care of my

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<v Speaker 2>ninety forty old aunt. Well, yeah, and her h her

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<v Speaker 2>help has just kind of been getting worse and worse

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<v Speaker 2>over time. You know, he doesn't forget who I am

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<v Speaker 2>or anything, but you know, she's kind of in la

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<v Speaker 2>la land, you know what I'm saying. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>just gotta like I take care of everything. I make

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<v Speaker 2>her food, and I have to clean up after her

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<v Speaker 2>and that sort of thing. And it's just been very stressful.

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<v Speaker 1>How often that you have to clean Well, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't get diary. It's more like she goes to the

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom and there's a how can I say, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>little presence left behind. Sometimes she doesn't make it to

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<v Speaker 2>the toilet fully.

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<v Speaker 1>So like you're picking up logs that like you're picking

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<v Speaker 1>up a bylog by logs? Is that like law side logs?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that occurs on the on the way from the

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<v Speaker 1>chair that she sits in all day to the bathroom, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what else.

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<v Speaker 2>Home? You know, And it's just it's just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sad watching her decline. I mean, it's just I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>our family has talked about putting her in a home,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's the type of person she's always been. She's

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<v Speaker 2>always been like a homebody alone. She'd always remember we

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<v Speaker 2>go out or like go out of dinner with her

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<v Speaker 2>or something. She always want to get home right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Not very sociable person, never was married, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like if we put her in a

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<v Speaker 2>convalescent home or something, she would be gone within the month.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just kind of sucks. What can I do?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>How old are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I'm gonna be turning twenty sixth on December third?

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<v Speaker 1>Cool man?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, what what's your life like? I, in all honesty,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really do much other than you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>keep an ear out for her and then I just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of sit around.

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<v Speaker 2>I do play music, that is something I do as

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<v Speaker 2>like a hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, you so, I mean did you just was

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<v Speaker 1>that you farting or was that your aunt?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, that was sorry. I didn't expect to

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<v Speaker 2>get a call. So so.

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<v Speaker 1>When you get anxious.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that was my that was my list, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, okay, that's a cute tick. You do

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<v Speaker 1>little raspberries when you get nervous. That's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>A little high.

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve it, you you're out here picking up side logs,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. You deserve to get high and fart all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So you've been doing this for three years,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, since like the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much. I mean her health wasn't as bad

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<v Speaker 2>at the very beginning, but she had like a bad

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<v Speaker 2>ball and broke her reds and it's just been downhill

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<v Speaker 2>from there.

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<v Speaker 1>And you and this has been making you severely depressed

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<v Speaker 1>for the past three years. Yeah, okay. Now, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of questions about this. Are you the who?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's everyone else? Where's where's your mom? Where's her? Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Why is it you who's doing this? Where's everyone?

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<v Speaker 2>My dad's aunt? I mean, he he lives very close by,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know he he comes by every once in

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<v Speaker 2>a while. But there's really my family is very small.

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<v Speaker 2>I have two uncles. They don't live in the same state.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them lives in a different country. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>all her direct family is basically gone, so it's really

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<v Speaker 2>just me and I have a brother, but he's in

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<v Speaker 2>eating school right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mhm, So I guess how old is your brother?

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<v Speaker 2>He's eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's eighteen. And then you're what's your Tell me again

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<v Speaker 1>what your Your dad lives close? But why is he

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<v Speaker 1>not helping you with this?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he does help out. I mean he's just

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<v Speaker 2>not he's not here every day, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>I just.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels a little and I don't know. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to speak out of turn here because it's

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's a These kinds of issues are complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>but it feels unfair to me that you're the only

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<v Speaker 1>one that's sacrificing your life to, you know, help out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think I hear that from other people too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, tell me about this. Let's say that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't feel this this deep responsibility to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>What would you be doing with your life instead?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the problem. I don't. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you must have an inkling of an idea,

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<v Speaker 1>of a sum, any sort of it could even be vague.

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<v Speaker 1>It can you can be like I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I did go to whatever it is like to

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<v Speaker 2>do audio engineering stuff, but I've always kind of struggled

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<v Speaker 2>with anxiety, and I sort of had a a nervous

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<v Speaker 2>breakdown at one point and that was the end of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was what will cause? Will cause that nerve? Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>How old? You said? You're sixteen?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, in twenty sixteen that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what cause your nervous breakdown?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really want to get too dark, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was just kind of like I had been seeing somebody

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<v Speaker 2>on campus right like a like a therapist, and they

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<v Speaker 2>preside me and I need a presence because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really doing too great mentally. I don't know. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I just wasn't a jous staying to the normal every

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<v Speaker 2>day of my life at that point. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on. I was smoking a lot of weed

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<v Speaker 2>that probably didn't help.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Are you still smoking a lot of weed?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Like, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was

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<v Speaker 2>very young, and when I got to college, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to take my meds anymore because they made me

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a zombie, like I couldn't talk to people.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very hard. Yeah, and you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like to drink, and I guess I got attached at

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<v Speaker 2>smoking bud. Kind of not the greatest thing, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>I guess my self medicate with it in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I'm also turning twenty six in December. A

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<v Speaker 1>big fucking pothead was diagnosed with the ADHD as a

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<v Speaker 1>little kid. But didn't want to take my medication because

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you feel like a fucking zombie. Hmmm, so you

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<v Speaker 1>really have no idea, I mean you have like you

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea at all of anything. Did you graduate?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I dropped that after once semester. I a semester

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<v Speaker 2>and I have since then. I took therapy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had a couple jobs, and I met my girlfriend and

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<v Speaker 2>and then the pandemic hit and it just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>I've been stuck here.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a girlfriend, well not anymore. M You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about if you don't want to. But

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<v Speaker 1>what did how long ago? Was was that not a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's sort of been an ongoing issue. She she

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<v Speaker 2>moved out in like August. We were just kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, me dealing with my own issues and her

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<v Speaker 2>having her own problem. I guess we just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a clash and then you know, doing just tours around

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<v Speaker 2>the house, Like we'd fight over doing the dishes, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that sort of thing. We had a dishwasher here

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<v Speaker 2>and it stopped working, you know, like who who would

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<v Speaker 2>who would have like carry their share and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would escalate. It really wasn't healthy. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't blame her for leaving, but I guess I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't get over the fact, like it is just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in a really rough spot and I just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>felt a little like she pushed me away by going.

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<v Speaker 1>Through with that, you know, yeah, yeah, But do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a job? Do you make money?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Not currently?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Did you have you had like since you left college,

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<v Speaker 1>have you had a job or has it always.

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<v Speaker 2>Has your had to casheering jobs? M hm. Work at

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<v Speaker 2>a grocery store and then I work at a big loss.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any pipe dreams?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have any? I mean, I like, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>for people listen to my music, but I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>it's so I I wish I could have the attention

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<v Speaker 2>span just sit down and work on something. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a struggle, like I'll have like little bursts of

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<v Speaker 2>ideas and I never follow through on them.

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<v Speaker 4>M hm.

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<v Speaker 1>M hmm. Dear friends, do you see people outside of

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<v Speaker 1>your aunt? Not really, that's what state I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I have plenty of friends in college, but they all

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ghosted me. Uh huh, that's where I left.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>CA's what state you live in? You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if you don't want to, but I'm curious. Connecticut, Connecticut?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Do you live in here? A major city

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<v Speaker 1>at all?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess closest would be New York mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your relationship like with your aunts? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I I loved my grandmother, who was her sister mm hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were like is irreseparable and like the both

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<v Speaker 2>of them. My parents were always working when I was

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, so like they both of them kind of

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<v Speaker 2>would watch me. Oh. I guess I just feel some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of deep responsibility because in all honesty, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really think my uncles care that much like my dad

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<v Speaker 2>does care, but he well I should. I should mention

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<v Speaker 2>my father.

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<v Speaker 5>He's been going through his second bout of cancer on

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<v Speaker 5>top of everything, so that's that's really why he hasn't

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<v Speaker 5>been around here that much.

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<v Speaker 2>Been busy with that, which is obviously understandable. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have a big family. They're all I've got,

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<v Speaker 2>and once they're gone, I mean, yeah, that's it, you know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've talked to some people on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast recently who like had this issue of like taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of somebody versus like living their own lives, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I feel like it's a personal decision,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will say, you know, it's a personal decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about, like, you know, do you prioritize yourself

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<v Speaker 1>or is this responsibility that you feel to your family,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more important than you not hating your life

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<v Speaker 1>if you asked me personally. And I'm not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the arbiter of everyone's personal choices or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think at a certain point, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how this manifests in your actions or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but I do think at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 1>especially you know, with how young you are, like it,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a detriment to continue to neglect your own

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<v Speaker 1>life to take care of other people. That feels in

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<v Speaker 1>my gut, that feels unhealthy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you're just constantly I mean obvious it

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<v Speaker 2>is because I'm really not doing great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and I don't think you And look, man,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I want you to know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very noble what you're doing, and you seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a good guy. So it is a bummer that you're

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<v Speaker 1>like not giving yourself the chance to develop your own life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I and you know, I'm sorry to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about your dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he's doing a lot better, but that was that

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<v Speaker 2>was all kind of culminating while my girlfriend was living here. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this was like more towards the being either

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<v Speaker 2>and since then he's been doing a lot better, thankfully.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just been a very hard year. M hm.

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<v Speaker 4>Hm.

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<v Speaker 1>Can how about I mean, how about this if if

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<v Speaker 1>if we were to because you know, look, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna end this phone call, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that I hope, I hope it was of

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<v Speaker 1>some benefit to talk about this. Is there like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is there one thing, how however fucking small, Is there

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<v Speaker 1>one thing or however big, that you can do just

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself? You know, Like now, like, is do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any idea of what that could be if you

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<v Speaker 1>were just doing one thing for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, uh yeah, I don't I really don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what that would entail. I guess it would be nice

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<v Speaker 2>to have, like a vacation, but it's just not something

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<v Speaker 2>that's feasible primely, I do all honestly, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I can't tell you to push your aunt down

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<v Speaker 1>a flight of stairs and go to Mexico, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that what uh uh, I'll land I'll land

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<v Speaker 1>on this because this is the case, it's a complicated issue,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's about is a real personal choice. I'll land

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<v Speaker 1>on this. I hope, okay, I'll land on this. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that every day when you make this choice, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to take on this responsibility to help your

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<v Speaker 1>aunt at the expense of, you know, other things that

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<v Speaker 1>you could be doing with your life as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a cool young guy. I hope you are making that

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<v Speaker 1>decision intentionally, and as part of making that decision intentionally,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel good about the decision, instead of making the

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<v Speaker 1>decision and then hating life every day, because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of having your cake and eating it too. Is

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<v Speaker 1>making an intentional decision about your life and then just

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<v Speaker 1>hating it every day as if you're not in some

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<v Speaker 1>modicum of control. Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'm nobody's forcing me

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. Like I said, I really don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I could live with myself. Will we put her

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<v Speaker 2>in a home or something and then she's dead within

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<v Speaker 2>a month, because I'm pretty sure that's how her mother went.

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<v Speaker 1>She was all up. She's ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>You said she's my great aunt, not my aunt. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be specific, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to tell you what to do, man,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, ninety four is a pretty fucking good run.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, Yeah, I know, a very stubborn one. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety four is a good what's your name? Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four is a good run. If you put her

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<v Speaker 1>in a home and she dies, she had a good run. Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, it's not like, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole by the way putting her in a I

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<v Speaker 1>don't where were you getting this? Where are you getting

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<v Speaker 1>this from? That put that she will die if you

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<v Speaker 1>put her in a home.

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<v Speaker 2>Because in all honesty, I feel like you know, she's

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<v Speaker 2>very attached to her house. She's incredible. She's always been

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<v Speaker 2>a home buddy. She's been incredibly attached to this house

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<v Speaker 2>her whole life. Well then, well, then like taking her

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<v Speaker 2>out of her environment with.

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<v Speaker 1>Just why doesn't she why doesn't she pay for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to dude, why doesn't she pay for somebody to help her.

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<v Speaker 2>We've tried, We've tried to get people to come in

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<v Speaker 2>and like through her health insurance, and they only come

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<v Speaker 2>for like a few weeks and then that's it. We've tried,

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<v Speaker 2>We've tried and tried. We're not loaded here, unfortunately, I

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<v Speaker 2>wish we were. But if she got put in the home,

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<v Speaker 2>the house would probably have to get put towards that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's a little diar here.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a man butt. But like I I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I feel bad going on and on about

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<v Speaker 1>this because I don't, but like kind of out us. Look, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain point, like look, here's the thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that when I'm ninety five years old,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have, she has a little bit of personal responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know we're gonna get old, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of personal responsibility to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>when we're old and sick. You know, we're not making

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else's you know, lives miserable around us to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of us. And and like, you know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>got to get put in a home and and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I did instead of making my great grandson miss

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<v Speaker 1>his life and be fucking miserable, then you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain point, at a certain point, I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be a little bit responsible for this instead of

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<v Speaker 1>like bringing your ass down too, you know. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm sorry, I don't know if it's my place

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<v Speaker 1>to say those things or but like that's just how

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<v Speaker 1>I feel as an outsider looking at this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get what you're saying. She's just like

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<v Speaker 2>she's kind of in la la lamb. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know if she realizes so it is. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name again, now, Matt? Well, Matt, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>talking about all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope, just man, I appreciate you calling me, dude.

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I've been listening to your podcast has been helping me

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<v Speaker 2>stay sane.

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<v Speaker 1>So cool. Well, I'm glad to hear that.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I just.

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<v Speaker 1>If you leave this conversation with anything, I hope it's

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<v Speaker 1>that you are making an intell I just I just

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<v Speaker 1>hope it's that you're making this intentional decision every day

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<v Speaker 1>instead of like letting all of this ship happen to

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you passively, because that's not because that would just to

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<v Speaker 1>me feel like a waste. Because you're you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Young guy, all right, So I'm glad you think.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks for calling, Matt, have a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, man, a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck, dude, I don't know. This stuff is hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me because like I really do, I really don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell I Like, I mean, I do it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I do it a lot, but I really don't. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a personal decision whether you want to sacrifice your

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<v Speaker 1>life for somebody who you feel like you owe some

0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of debt too. If that's your prerogative, then sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, but I don't know, dude. If at a

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<v Speaker 1>certain you know, the sixty year old version of this

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<v Speaker 1>woman would hopefully come up with some kind of plan

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<v Speaker 1>or or or like, you know, for her to be

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<v Speaker 1>put in a home, it's like, oh no, she has

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<v Speaker 1>to make some kind of concession so that her great

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<v Speaker 1>grandson isn't you know, wasting his youth and feeling depressed

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<v Speaker 1>and horrible every day to take care of her. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't. I don't know I'm a geck on the

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<v Speaker 1>computer or do I fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Know that either?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello? Hello, who is this?

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<v Speaker 4>My name is sabbenas Venus.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's up? Sabina?

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<v Speaker 6>Pretty good today?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, where you call them from?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm calling from Denmark.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cool? What part of Denmark?

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<v Speaker 6>Copenhagen?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, Man. Copenhagen's just I mean, it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite cities in the world. Man, it's very Uh,

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a live everyone's riding, everyone's.

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<v Speaker 4>Eating oh yeah, the bike.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's fucked up is like Americans are known

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<v Speaker 1>for being obese and gross, but uh, I went over.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I go over to like Europe, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's only drinking coke and beer and cakes. Like they

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<v Speaker 1>eat way worse over there, but for some reason they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not fat.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yes, yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>We eat a lot of how do you put it?

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<v Speaker 6>Crap? It's on a daily basis over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweeden is worse though, Yeah, Sweden h the seven eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a seven eleven it's in Sweden, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had like a spaghetti station there. It was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>did that you you know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you tried the fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Mesh fast mash? What's a fast mash.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like a coffee machine. They have it like tank stations,

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<v Speaker 6>but it dispenses like mashed potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me that you guys have a mashed

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<v Speaker 1>potato dispenser at your seven elevens and we are the

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<v Speaker 1>fat folks.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well Sweden has that, it's not in Copenhagen.

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<v Speaker 1>Sadly, yep, all right, I'm gonna have to try that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to try that. It's annoying and I

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<v Speaker 1>just every single one of these podcasts is just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be me ranting about fast food, which I guess is fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's such a bum I'm sure I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this before. It's such a bummer that or every classically

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<v Speaker 1>American fast food brand socks in America and is better abroad.

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<v Speaker 1>Like seven eleven is disgusting here in America, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to a seven eleven in Sweden, there's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people working there don't seem like they want

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<v Speaker 1>to kill themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>I could I really could imagine I've tried a few,

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<v Speaker 6>like classic American stuff like the food loops and Twinkies

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<v Speaker 6>and all that, and you always hear about how it's

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<v Speaker 6>the greatest and they grew up with it and it's

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<v Speaker 6>nostalgic and it just kind of tastes the same and

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 6>extremely sweet. So I could imagine your seven lemons being

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<v Speaker 6>very greasy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Sabina, I feel like you didn't call in to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about seven eleven. So is there anything else in

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<v Speaker 1>particular that you wanted to talk about today? Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was mostly the need to just talk.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I've had a rough couple of years, and

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<v Speaker 6>I know that some people call in talk about nothing,

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<v Speaker 6>and sometimes they talk about important stuff, but I think

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 6>I just want to talk to someone. You know, I

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 6>don't have a good relationship with a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, sometimes it's just tough being the friend

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<v Speaker 6>that always has the bad news.

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, the friend that always has the bad news.

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, every time you see someone and.

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<v Speaker 6>They just never have anything good to say, right, And

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<v Speaker 6>I'm extreme the stay of becoming that friend. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>to me, it's become like I just don't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Two anyway, Well, why have you had a rough couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the first one is going to be a little

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 6>hard to explain. But you've probably heard about the fact

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:07.880
<v Speaker 6>that in Denmark you get paid.

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<v Speaker 2>To go to school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I have heard about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and it's kind of just like getting paid for

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 6>your job. But it's so integrated into our society that

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 6>we can't function if we don't have that. It's expected

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 6>that we live our lives with the pay we get

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<v Speaker 6>from school. But I took a three year education and

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<v Speaker 6>one day they just all decided that that somehow I

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 6>went to the wrong school or something, and and they

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<v Speaker 6>wanted me to pay it all back.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you went to a school a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so you went to a school that Denmark is like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wait, we actually don't cover this school, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to give us that money back.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, decided that all of a sudden, despite them like

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<v Speaker 6>approving of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they allowed to do that? Well, I guess if

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>you're a government of a country, you can kind of

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>But I had lawyers on it and everything. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>just me, it was all the students that went to

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 6>my class. Oh, we had a lawyer. Look, into it,

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 6>and unfortunately, that particular place is protected by one paragraph

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 6>that says that the student is responsible to figure out

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 6>if the state is right in their approval.

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<v Speaker 1>So you did like a class action lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 6>We tried, but unfortunately due to the fact that it

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<v Speaker 6>was already a part of the their rules and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>in terms, and there wasn't really much we could do.

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<v Speaker 6>We just got screwed.

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>So how many around? How many? So a bunch of

0:27:58.240 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people who went to the school got

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>fun How many people got fucked.

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 6>Well, at first we thought it was twenty four, but

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 6>it turned out that it was also a student from

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 6>earlier years, so around two hundred, and it was also

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 6>people that whether they're from like it's almost ten years ago.

0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 6>I think we figured out that got hit by well

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 6>what is it called. They had to pay it back

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 6>for a school.

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>They went to, toy damn. So you're just going along

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>living your life and all of a sudden, the Danish

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>government hits you with a bill for your school that

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you went to ten years ago.

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly, that's what's happened to them.

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:43.719
<v Speaker 1>So I'm curious, do you know personally anybody else who

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>is in this group of two hundred people, and if so, like,

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>do you know what they're doing? What their plan is

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to kind of deal with all this stuff?

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 6>Some of them, many of them dropped out. This happened

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 6>for our class before we were even done with school,

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 6>and many of them dropped out. So I lost contact

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 6>with them automatically. But I had one really close friend

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 6>who she also took a loan on the side. Didn't

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 6>do that really cheap payback as well, if well, if

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 6>the state doesn't get you really but it was almost

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 6>half a million of the English crowns she had to

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 6>pay back.

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what school for.

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 6>Fasion design?

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay? Do you do you?

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Were you able to get some kind of a job.

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 6>Kind of? I'm a freelancer and I'm doing pretty okay.

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 6>It's the session market is the fashion market isn't really

0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 6>the biggest and broadest in in Europe or Denmark specifically,

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 6>So I already knew that I couldn't work for like

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 6>a company and I had to go freelancing. So I'm

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 6>a hatmaker in Sweden at the moment, you're doing what

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 6>in Sweden? I'm a a hat maker?

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>You make hats in Sweden? Yeah, that's cool. I like

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>any kind of job that was, you know, they were

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>doing in the seventeen hundreds, and I feel like a

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Swedish hat maker. It's cool that in the year of

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, almost twenty twenty four, there are still Swedish

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>hat makers.

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, it's it's huge. Whenever a Swedish student gets

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 6>a PhD, they have to get the doctor's head. And

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:45.880
<v Speaker 6>that's the kind of hats I do. So I have

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 6>a work every six months when they graduate.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's smart. So how much dot are you? And

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>from Danish fuckery?

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 6>Well, I was one hundred and seventy five thousand Danish crowns.

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how much that is, can I can

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 6>I look it up? Requid?

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's find that out. Let's see Danish crowns two

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>usd okay, one hundred and seventy five one two three,

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>it's about twenty five thousand dollars. Yeah, okay, not you know,

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to like student debt, I feel like

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that's not horrible.

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 6>Oh no, not at all compared to like what you

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 6>get in America. From what I hear.

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm like, good dude, some people in America

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>are like, you know, high six figures in student debt.

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>But but I mean, but it's I mean, it's it is,

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>it does. It is made a little bit worse by

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you didn't, you know, because at least

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>the people who go like six figures into debt like

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>they knew they were going to take it on, whereas

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>you didn't know you were going to even take that

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>dead on. You just got fucked by by Denmark.

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 6>This has been the equivalent of having done a job

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 6>for three years and then suddenly your boss comes back

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 6>and say you didn't do your job. Probably therefore you

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 6>have to pay off your entire payment. You have to

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 6>get it back again. M. Well, it took all my savings,

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 6>so I'm out of it luckily, but I don't have

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 6>any money now.

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Are you able to make decent enough money making hats?

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 6>M Yeah, it's okay. I'm probably going to go back

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 6>to school to get some quote unquote real education at

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 6>some point because I can't do it full time, sadly,

0:32:56.640 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 6>and it's good pay, but it's not you know enough.

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 6>Market's a very expensive city to live in, and even

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 6>more now than ever.

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what could possibly be realer than being

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a Swedish hat maker.

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Well when you say when you say a real education,

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean?

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 6>You know, I've kind of come to the realization that

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 6>i need to have a job, well another job on

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 6>the side, to make it by and to save up

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 6>comfortably and stuff like that. So I'm taking an education

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 6>in children's psychology.

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh cool, in January.

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 6>Hopefully, and then I'm going to be like a kindergarten

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 6>teacher for a couple of years.

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm going to say this, Sabina, I'm sorry

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>that you're struggling, but also on that on the other hand,

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it does it is kind of comforting to hear that

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>people are economically fucked in Denmark too, because I think

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Americans think it's just us.

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:10.240
<v Speaker 6>No, yeah, no, I think it's everybody, and the entirety

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 6>of Scandinavia is really except no way they're doing great,

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 6>because don't people.

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Always and not by lot, I'm talking about things that

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I just have no idea about, and I just I'm

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>like making this all up and have no idea what

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. But I feel like people always like

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>point to Scandinavia as like, oh, this is how we

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:28.720
<v Speaker 1>should do things.

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 6>You know what I mean, yeah, yeah, in a lot

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 6>of ways we do it. I would never I always

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 6>think about living like somewhere that's really really warm, because

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 6>these days we have minus five degrees celsius, which is

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 6>pretty fucking cold and sweat. I'd love to go somewhere warm.

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 6>But Scandinavia is just.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 4>It's really really good.

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 6>It's it's it's the inn existenses. But the health care

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 6>and the mental health care is it's nice and it

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 6>doesn't it doesn't put depths on the children.

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>If you guys get you guys get free health care

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>in Denmark.

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 6>Yes, always paid over the our taxes. Of course we

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 6>have those abnormally high taxes so but but yeah, free

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 6>health care and free mental health care.

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they give you do they give you

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>free popsicles when we go to the doctor, just like

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>in general, just if you just get a yearly popsicle

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>if you live in Denmark. Mmm.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 6>But every fourth years when we have like our what's

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 6>it called the change of state the elections, people always

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 6>standing like around the stations and they're giving out free

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 6>bread and sometimes popsicles.

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>What's your name against Sabina, Yes, Sabina, well Sabina. I

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, you sound like you're doing pretty good.

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>When you said you had a I hope this isn't diminishing.

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>But when you said you had a rough couple of years,

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting far worse. You sound like you're doing okay.

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 6>I am, but I'm doing okay.

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But I've a.

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 6>I'm doing a lot of therapy at the moment for

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 6>a lot of other couple of stuff, and that's really

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 6>working for me. But I'm trying to stay positive, you know,

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 6>mh just I spent the last six months being absolutely miserable.

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 6>I had a terrible deadn't job at that time that

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 6>really knocked me off my feet after the thing. But

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 6>I'm out of it and not to therapy, and that's good.

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Have you have you have you learned? And has therapy

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>been helpful for you? Oh?

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah absolutely. I've done a psychotherapy with meta cognitive treatment.

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 6>I think it's called in English.

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:35.240
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, it's.

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 6>It's learning to uh to look at your own thoughts

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 6>and feeling as neutral I'm not not as a part

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 6>of yourself.

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard of that stuff, like

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole, the whole you are not your thoughts idea.

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know.

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know, man, because if you're not like,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting thing to think about, because if you're

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>not your thoughts, then what are you?

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's uh. I asked about that as well, and

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 6>my my therapist she said, that's the eternal question that

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 6>they always ask themselves and we should ask ourselves. But

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 6>we are not our thoughts.

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.720
<v Speaker 1>We are not our thoughts. We are a talking gecko

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>and a Swedish hat maker. Yes, Sabina, is there anything

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>else you want to say to the people of the

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>computer before we go?

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 2>I hope that.

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 6>Everybody stands up for themselves and hangs in there, because

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 6>I know everybody is struggling in these times, but I

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 6>think it's going to be better and hopefully somedays the

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 6>how is Margaret Precious.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Having the rest of the night?

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:08.319
<v Speaker 6>You too?

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Thank you bye, Sabina. All you know, what I'm realizing

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>is that we actually on the I think. On the

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>most recent podcast we also had a Danish caller, and

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I also talked a lot about Danish seven eleven for real,

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 1>if you have, if you've ever, if you ever go

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:30.439
<v Speaker 1>to seven eleven, you've got to get the honey chicken

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 1>at the at the Danish seven eleven. It's really good.

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>It's better if you go on like a Yelp or whatever,

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>their trip advisor, whatever the fuck, it'll tell you all

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>these fancy restaurants. Don't do that. Go to seven eleven

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and get the honey chicken. It's really good.

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 4>All from Jarrett. Hello, Hello, Oh my god, am I

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 4>actually with you?

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What's your name, Doug?

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Hey, my name is Jarrett.

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Jarrett. What's happening?

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 4>I need it? Uh? I woke up to your stream

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 4>and was dedicated to get onto it, and now.

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Here we are, Jared, Jared Man, Hell, yeah, what's up?

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 6>Man?

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you well? I feel like, you know, if

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.800
<v Speaker 1>you're dedicated to getting on the stream, I feel like

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 1>there was something you wanted to talk about. It's okay. Yeah.

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 4>A while ago, it was like the biggest thing I

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 4>wanted to do because I was like really depressed and

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I just needed like somebody random and anonymous to talk to.

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 4>And then I saw your stream and then I was

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 4>just like, oh, this is perfect, and so I set

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 4>aside some time because I'm like always busy now and

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 4>I hate it to try and talk to you. And well,

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 4>now here I am. But now life is kind of okay.

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 4>It's a little bit better, but it's still ambiguous, and

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what to do.

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by ambiguous?

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, I have all these things going for me, but

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I feel like I'm getting nowhere in life,

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.879
<v Speaker 4>and I feel like I'm wasting a lot of opportunity,

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 4>and I feel really bad about it, and I just

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I'm in college, I have jobs, I

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 4>work with my parents, but I'm going nowhere.

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>What opportunity do you have that you feel as though

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you were wasting.

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 4>The fact that I go to college. I know that's

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 4>not I know it's like something a lot of people

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 4>in America do, but like a lot of people also

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 4>don't get the chance to go to college. I don't know.

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 4>I just I went into I went to school, or

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 4>I went to high school just because it was the

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 4>only thing to do, and then I went to college

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 4>just because it was the only thing to do. My

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 4>parents were just you know, telling me, like, it's the

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 4>best thing for you. So I did it without thinking

0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 4>about what was after that or what else I could do,

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 4>because I don't know, like what I want to do

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 4>with my life. I like doing small, niche hobbies. I

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 4>like like like blacksmithing and rock climbing, not papers and essays.

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.839
<v Speaker 1>And we are on the cusp of World War three,

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>which will be fought with guns, but famously, world War

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>four will be fought with sticks and stones. So if

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you get in early on the blacksmithing in about thirty years,

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you might be the most in demand skillsmen in the

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:38.720
<v Speaker 1>United States.

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 4>Then I can't wait for World War four.

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna make a lot of money off of World

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>War four. How old are you?

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm twenty?

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what do you mean you why?

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I still after everything you've told me, don't understand why

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you feel guilty or like you're wasting something. What do

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>you feel like you're wasting? Well?

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 4>Everything that I do, I well, at least recently. No,

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 4>that's not true, because my whole life I feel like

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 4>I haven't really achieved anything other than just kind of

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 4>getting by, And like.

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>What the fuck are you supposed to have achieved by now?

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Like I look at all my friends

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 4>around me, and they've achieved stuff, like some of them

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 4>are already.

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 1>No, like which of your hold on, hold on, hold

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>on which of your friends are millionaires.

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 4>I have this one friend, Okay, I don't want to

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 4>get too specific, but I went to a private school

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 4>with a bunch of like richie prissy kids, and they're

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 4>pretty nice. But one of them's already like he invested

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 4>in like crypto and stuff like that, and now he's

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.880
<v Speaker 4>a millionaire and he's like, it's oh man. And then

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 4>another person like they're already ahead on their college degree

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 4>and they're already like they're already graduated college and they're

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 4>onto their or their PhD.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, before them. Look, look, look some people,

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>some hold on. Some people got a lot of money

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>from their parents, put it into cryptocurrency and it made

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 1>them a lot of money, and that's what happened to them.

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>That's their life. Who gives a ship Does an affect

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>you at all?

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 4>That's true, I guess.

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, And by the way, that's not really I mean,

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what if that's I mean, I'm

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>not going to knock it. I mean it's you know,

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>they have a lot of money. That's always it's cool.

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Having a lot of money is cool, but like, well

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>they didn't they didn't really do anything.

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 4>That's true.

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>What do you want to do? What do you want

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to what do you want to do? What do you like? Actually?

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Because I mean right now, you're just getting mad at

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>yourself because you don't have ten Ethereum, I.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Guess I don't know. That's the other thing I want

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 4>to talk to about this. I have no clue. I've

0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 4>never known what I wanted to do with my life.

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 4>I've always just enjoyed the hobbies that I do.

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, What are the hobbies that you do aside

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>from just blacksmithing'.

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 4>I like rock climbing, skateboarding, uh, scuba diving? What else?

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 4>I play music? I love playing like piano. Whenever I'm

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 4>like frustrated.

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Bro, it sounds like you do a lot of things.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 4>I do a lot I have. I do martial arts

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 4>and stuff too. It's just I don't know, man, I

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 4>can't make a career I have any of this stuff.

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>You're a renaissance man, you know. I uh so, So

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>it's what it's about, like making money?

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's mainly I just want to be successful, not

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 4>about making money, but just enough to like live comfortably

0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 4>and to support a family, because I do want a

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 4>family one day.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, This is all interesting because I I,

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, what does successful look.

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 4>Like to you? What my parents are like right now

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 4>is actually like the best example. My dad, he was

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 4>kind of in the same boat as me, and then

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 4>he found my mom and then they were just on

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 4>their own for their entire like thirties, and my mom

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 4>became a vet or she was a vet, and then

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 4>that's when they met, and then they kind of just

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.560
<v Speaker 4>started building a life off of that, and then over

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 4>time they started upgrading and upgrading, Like they were in

0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 4>a little apartment when I was born, and then they

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 4>moved on to like buying a house during the housing

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 4>crisis of two thousand meets.

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 1>But so are you saying that but like by having

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>a big house is successful for you.

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.239
<v Speaker 4>No, We're not in a big house. It's just like

0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 4>a medio gresse. I'm just saying, like, if I could

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 4>own my own place live, make enough to like buy

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 4>to buy groceries for the week, and to also like

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:53.280
<v Speaker 4>going vacations.

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Number what's the number? What's an amount of money? Who

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 1>do you want to make.

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 4>That? I want to at least a million year?

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>You want to.

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Dude?

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Fuck you shut the fuck up. You're like you said.

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>You said, well, it's funny because you said I want

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to I just want to have enough to support a family,

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and because you went from you, dude, you just went

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>from I want to have enough to support a family

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and get groceries and blah blah blah, and then you

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>were like, I want to make a million dollars a year, which, hey,

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>it's seventy years. That might be the number to support

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a family and get groceries, but it's not right now.

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh shit, maybe like five K, that five hundred K.

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, you want to make five hundred thousand dollars a year.

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say at least that then, because that

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 4>between five hundred k. And I was like, it's like

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.279
<v Speaker 4>the average, I guess, or not like the average for

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:45.320
<v Speaker 4>everybody in America.

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.240
<v Speaker 1>But just like, dude, hold on, five hundred thousand dollars,

0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>all right. I don't know what school you went to,

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>but it is brainwashed you. Five hundred thousand dollars is

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>not the average salary in America.

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 4>I know, No, I know, I meant, I meant, I

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 4>meant that, like like like in general, I guess it's

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 4>just what I want, what I want, that's my success.

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And Okay, that's yours. That's that's that's yours. But there's

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>nothin I'm not, by the way, there's nothing wrong with

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 1>wanting to make a lot of money. I don't think

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 1>there's anything wrong with that if that's if that's your

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:27.359
<v Speaker 1>prerogative in life. Okay, so you want to make five

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars a year.

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, at least I would say, because that's that's what

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:34.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean by live comfortably, because then you can like

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 4>get the things you want and still have enough to

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 4>pay the bills and all that kind of stuff.

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna buy all right, I'm gonna tell you

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a few things. One is that money is like a tool,

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you just and if you just start

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 1>randomly spouting off like, oh, I want to make five

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars because that's how much it costs to

0:48:56.560 --> 0:49:01.120
<v Speaker 1>live comfortably. You're you you need to I'm gonna get

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>practical with you on this. You need to do this,

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and you need to reverse your thinking on this, okay,

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>because you actually need to start from the other end,

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>because you're starting with a number and then working backwards

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 1>with a life, right, So why don't you start with

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>a life and then come up with a number from there. Right,

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 1>do you know what I'm saying to you right now?

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 1>So go ahead and go, I'm gonna this is real

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like shit, So you go, Okay, I want to be

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:31.320
<v Speaker 1>able to do this and do this and have this

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and then this, and then you get your number from there,

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:37.480
<v Speaker 1>because you might What you might actually find out is

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that if your goal is to support a family and

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 1>have groceries, it actually doesn't cost five hundred thousand dollars. Hum,

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess, So do you get what I'm saying?

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I do?

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I do?

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Or's is okay?

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 1>You?

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:59.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah? I guess that's the normal way to look

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 4>at it. Then I don't know, just hyper inflated throughout

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:05.839
<v Speaker 4>like thinking throughout my life.

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah, because you're crazy and you grew up

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 1>around a bunch of crazy people who all have a

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:19.839
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in in in doge coin or whatever. But uh,

0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, like what also?

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're also twenty man? Like what?

0:50:26.480 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Gars a bay? Any of this stuff? Go go be poor.

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm a junior in college too, and I've failed at

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 4>least three classes and okay, I don't know if I'm

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 4>gonna graduate on time and all that kind of like stress.

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 4>My parents are kind of like they're not like strict,

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 4>but they're also they also like want me to do well,

0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 4>so they stay on top of me quite a bit.

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 4>And if I ever like get like a C or

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 4>a D, then they start to like really pounce on me.

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:03.879
<v Speaker 4>So when I failed three courses in a year, they

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 4>were not happy with me.

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>So okay, and what do you now? I'm just kind

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of floating, bro, what's your name again?

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:15.240
<v Speaker 4>Jarrett?

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Jarrett? Jarrett Jarrett? You're crazy?

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:19.919
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I hold on, Jarrett, You're no, You're it's you're the

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 1>good kind of crazy. Okay, all right, let's get can

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 1>we can we I'm just trying to calm down for

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:40.240
<v Speaker 1>a second. What are you? What are you studying in school?

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:45.879
<v Speaker 4>Currently? My major is biochemistry, but I want to change

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.320
<v Speaker 4>it over to chemistry because I don't know it just

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 4>chemistry just comes easier to me than biology.

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Jarret, Do you like chemistry?

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's exciting enough to me to be like,

0:51:57.680 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 4>oh I could I could stare at this for hours?

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, It's it's good enough that you could do it

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:03.799
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life.

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't know about that.

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 4>That's that's why that's where I come. That's where like

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 4>my inner conscience comes in, and it's just like, well,

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 4>hold on their pal and I'm like, I'm very scared

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 4>to commit to it because I like doing other things too.

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, because honestly, because you know, also, I don't think

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>there's anything wrong with like, I mean, Jared, you're a

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:30.359
<v Speaker 1>renaissance man. You listed off like six different hobbies. Yeah,

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think there's anything wrong at all with

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 1>having some shitty jade day job and then on the

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 1>side doing your hobbies and living your life.

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 4>I guess so.

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>But I still, I'm still I just the reason I

0:52:50.800 --> 0:52:53.320
<v Speaker 1>said you're crazy is because for a lot of reasons

0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>is because you are, like, oh, I'm twenty and I

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.359
<v Speaker 1>haven't accomplished anything yet, and I'm gonna beat myself up

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 1>about it and freak out about it because I don't

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>have a million dollars in cryptocurrency like my friend does

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 1>care and also, you know, I need to make five

0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:16.759
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars to buy groceries. You know. You're yeah,

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta you gotta come, you gotta come back down

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 1>to earth. My friend, you'll have a good time here.

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's more than just the fact I don't know.

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm just I'm kind of scared to talk about a

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 4>lot of this stuff. But I don't really care at

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:29.600
<v Speaker 4>this point. What do you mean?

0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Why what do you hold on? What are you Why

0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 1>are you scared to talk about this stuff?

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:35.360
<v Speaker 4>Because like that's just like the start, that's where it starts.

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:37.319
<v Speaker 4>I just I don't think I'm a failure in life,

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 4>because like I crashed my car a lot and I

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 4>had to pay it all off, so I lost all

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:45.759
<v Speaker 4>my money, and then I failed college. I barely made

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:49.319
<v Speaker 4>it out of high school. Well it's not completely true,

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<v Speaker 4>but like yeah, and then I said, like I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>really achieve anything. I don't have anything out there with

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<v Speaker 4>my name on it other than like maybe my Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, you're you're scuba diving in blacks thing. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>a failure.

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<v Speaker 4>Those aren't Like.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just Jared, listen, I'm not taking back what

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<v Speaker 1>I said about you being crazy. You're crazy, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>not a failure. Okay, you're not. You're not a failure.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're too you're too young to write yourself off

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<v Speaker 1>as a failure. Because you got into a car accident

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<v Speaker 1>and because you are skipping. You know, you fucked up

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<v Speaker 1>some classes. You just stop doing that. Don't write, don't

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 1>write yourself off as a failure. Okay, just stop doing

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<v Speaker 1>that today, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, mister, okay, yeah, it just it gets to.

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<v Speaker 1>Me you're not You're not You're not a failure because you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fucked up a little bit here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>as in, you're at the age of twenty and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you a couple of questions. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>kill anyone in this car accident?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, no, no no?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get did you get three five times above

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<v Speaker 1>the alcohol limit for driving and murder a six year

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<v Speaker 1>old girl? Lord?

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<v Speaker 2>God?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, look, these these are my standards for for failure.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Did you did you get somebody pregnant?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>God, okay, I wish I did though, But no, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you're crazy, all right?

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<v Speaker 4>I want it like because that would mean I would

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<v Speaker 4>have a relationship with something like a really strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Really no, you don't know you dude. Okay, here's the thing. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because here's the thing I want you to. I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know something. Oh you know something?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, you.

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<v Speaker 1>You having no money and being twenty is fine. You

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:58.160
<v Speaker 1>having no money and being twenty and having a kid

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:02.120
<v Speaker 1>is not fine. But you haven't. You having no money

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<v Speaker 1>m right now and it's just you and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for anyone else. Yeah, you're fine, You're not a failure.

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 1>You're fine. Okay, Okay, all right, you're fine. Just can

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you trust me that you're fine?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what I was saying to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, look, you didn't fucking kill anything like just

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<v Speaker 1>you've given me no reason as to why you're a

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>failure who should go die in the woods. And that's

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 1>what I'm sensing is how you feel about yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should you should feel that way anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, okay, thank you. I just I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>been I don't know. Maybe it's been getting in my

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:53.200
<v Speaker 4>own head. I don't know. It's just it's been rough

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<v Speaker 4>for me at least lately. And that's why I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about the conversation that we've had

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<v Speaker 1>so far?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess better kind of made me also chat really

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:13.840
<v Speaker 4>helped with like them flaming on me. You realize I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't looked at the chat. I don't know if

0:57:15.719 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>they're I don't really care.

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:19.640
<v Speaker 4>Whether they or not they're flaming on you, but they

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 4>can flame.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry. Ah, you're fucking crazy, dude, Jared. Why don't you

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 1>go make Why don't you go? You know what? You

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:36.600
<v Speaker 1>know what? I think you need to do what I

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>think you're two in your head and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>go make a sword?

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<v Speaker 4>Dude? You're right.

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you go make a sword? Dude?

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<v Speaker 4>That is a good idea. Just spend some time making

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<v Speaker 4>a sword. It's cold outside, though, to make a sword,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's where the forges go.

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy, go make a fucking go be a back smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Go be Skyrim. Go make a fucking sword in the cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it? That sounds awesome. I want to make a

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:11.440
<v Speaker 1>sword in the cold, I guess so in the snow.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds sick, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll save it for breaks because I have finals and

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 4>shit coming up to thank you to study four.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll go do that and just I don't know, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>don't beat yourself up so much because you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, mister gecko.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before.

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<v Speaker 4>We go, one more thing. I've been wanting to save

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 4>this on such a big platform for so long. Learn

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:43.320
<v Speaker 4>to trim your animals toenails. Please, for the love of God,

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:44.400
<v Speaker 4>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very glad that you chimed in with maybe the

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 1>most random thing you possibly could have said. At the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this call, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 4>You're welcome, Take care, Jared, good luck, you two get go.

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<v Speaker 1>Who I want all? I want a million dollars. I'd

0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 1>be sick. But you know what, we can't all have.

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:15.320
<v Speaker 1>We can't all have a million dollars in cryptocurrency, and

0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 1>if we did, it would be worthless. That's what. That's what.

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:21.400
<v Speaker 1>That's what. Maybe the government should just give us all

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars and we'd all be happy. You know

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna run for president and

0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:30.640
<v Speaker 1>my platform is that I'm gonna give Didn't Kanye West

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 1>say that once? Didn't he say that we should give

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:36.000
<v Speaker 1>every baby a million dollars? He was right about that,

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<v Speaker 1>we should give every baby a million dollars. Every week

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<v Speaker 1>and goes on the line taking your phone calls every

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 1>nighte every week and goes to his lie.

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<v Speaker 4>Was teaching you a

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<v Speaker 1>Loud in the memory line, but he's not ready an

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<v Speaker 1>expert