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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up this Lyle? Yeah? Who is this?

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Speaker 2: Map?

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Speaker 1: What's up Matt? How's that?

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Speaker 2: Well, life's been pretty terrible in all honesty.

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Speaker 1: Let's fucking get into it, baby.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess since since like COVID hit, I've been

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Speaker 2: kind of stuck in this house taking care of my

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Speaker 2: ninety forty old aunt. Well, yeah, and her h her

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Speaker 2: help has just kind of been getting worse and worse

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Speaker 2: over time. You know, he doesn't forget who I am

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Speaker 2: or anything, but you know, she's kind of in la

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Speaker 2: la land, you know what I'm saying. You know, I

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Speaker 2: just gotta like I take care of everything. I make

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Speaker 2: her food, and I have to clean up after her

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Speaker 2: and that sort of thing. And it's just been very stressful.

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Speaker 1: How often that you have to clean Well, she.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't get diary. It's more like she goes to the

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Speaker 2: bathroom and there's a how can I say, there's a

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Speaker 2: little presence left behind. Sometimes she doesn't make it to

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Speaker 2: the toilet fully.

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Speaker 1: So like you're picking up logs that like you're picking

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Speaker 1: up a bylog by logs? Is that like law side logs?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that occurs on the on the way from the

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Speaker 1: chair that she sits in all day to the bathroom, okay,

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Speaker 1: what else.

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Speaker 2: Home? You know, And it's just it's just kind of

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Speaker 2: sad watching her decline. I mean, it's just I mean,

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Speaker 2: our family has talked about putting her in a home,

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Speaker 2: but she's the type of person she's always been. She's

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Speaker 2: always been like a homebody alone. She'd always remember we

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Speaker 2: go out or like go out of dinner with her

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Speaker 2: or something. She always want to get home right away.

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Speaker 2: Not very sociable person, never was married, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like if we put her in a

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Speaker 2: convalescent home or something, she would be gone within the month.

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Speaker 2: And it just kind of sucks. What can I do?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: How old are you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I'm gonna be turning twenty sixth on December third?

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Speaker 1: Cool man?

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Speaker 3: Uh, what what's your life like? I, in all honesty,

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Speaker 3: I don't really do much other than you know, I

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Speaker 3: keep an ear out for her and then I just

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Speaker 2: I do play music, that is something I do as

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Speaker 2: like a hobby.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you so, I mean did you just was

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Speaker 1: that you farting or was that your aunt?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, that was sorry. I didn't expect to

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Speaker 2: get a call. So so.

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Speaker 1: When you get anxious.

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Speaker 2: No, that was my that was my list, dude.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, okay, that's a cute tick. You do

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Speaker 1: little raspberries when you get nervous. That's fun.

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Speaker 2: A little high.

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Speaker 1: You deserve it, you you're out here picking up side logs,

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Speaker 1: all right. You deserve to get high and fart all

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you've been doing this for three years,

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Speaker 1: you said, since like the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I mean her health wasn't as bad

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Speaker 2: at the very beginning, but she had like a bad

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Speaker 1: And you and this has been making you severely depressed

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Speaker 1: for the past three years. Yeah, okay. Now, I have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of questions about this. Are you the who?

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Speaker 1: Where's everyone else? Where's where's your mom? Where's her? Why

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Speaker 1: are you? Why is it you who's doing this? Where's everyone?

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Speaker 2: My dad's aunt? I mean, he he lives very close by,

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Speaker 2: a while. But there's really my family is very small.

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Speaker 2: I have two uncles. They don't live in the same state.

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Speaker 2: One of them lives in a different country. You know,

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Speaker 2: all her direct family is basically gone, so it's really

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Speaker 2: just me and I have a brother, but he's in

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Speaker 1: Oh mhm, So I guess how old is your brother?

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Speaker 2: He's eighteen.

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Speaker 1: He's eighteen. And then you're what's your Tell me again

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Speaker 1: what your Your dad lives close? But why is he

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Speaker 1: not helping you with this?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I mean he does help out. I mean he's just

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's a These kinds of issues are complicated,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I hear that from other people too.

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Speaker 1: Well, tell me about this. Let's say that you didn't

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Speaker 1: you didn't feel this this deep responsibility to do this,

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Speaker 1: What would you be doing with your life instead?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem. I don't. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, you must have an inkling of an idea,

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Speaker 1: of a sum, any sort of it could even be vague.

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Speaker 2: Well, I did go to whatever it is like to

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Speaker 2: do audio engineering stuff, but I've always kind of struggled

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Speaker 2: with anxiety, and I sort of had a a nervous

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Speaker 2: breakdown at one point and that was the end of that.

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Speaker 1: That was what will cause? Will cause that nerve? Wait?

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Speaker 1: How old? You said? You're sixteen?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, in twenty sixteen that happened.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what cause your nervous breakdown?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't really want to get too dark, but I

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Speaker 2: really doing too great mentally. I don't know. I guess

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Speaker 2: what's going on. I was smoking a lot of weed

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Are you still smoking a lot of weed?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I'm also turning twenty six in December. A

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Speaker 1: maybe you feel like a fucking zombie. Hmmm, so you

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Speaker 1: really have no idea, I mean you have like you

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Speaker 1: have no idea at all of anything. Did you graduate?

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Speaker 2: No? I dropped that after once semester. I a semester

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Speaker 2: I've been stuck here.

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Speaker 1: You have a girlfriend, well not anymore. M You don't

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Speaker 2: Well, it's sort of been an ongoing issue. She she

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Speaker 1: Through with that, you know, yeah, yeah, But do you

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Not currently?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Did you have you had like since you left college,

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Speaker 1: Do you have any pipe dreams?

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Speaker 2: Do I have any? I mean, I like, I'd like

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Speaker 2: it's so I I wish I could have the attention

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Speaker 1: M hmm. Dear friends, do you see people outside of

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Speaker 2: I have plenty of friends in college, but they all

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Speaker 1: CA's what state you live in? You don't have to

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Speaker 1: What's your relationship like with your aunts? Well?

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Speaker 2: I I loved my grandmother, who was her sister mm hmmm,

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Speaker 2: and once they're gone, I mean, yeah, that's it, you know, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like it's a personal decision,

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Speaker 1: but I will say, you know, it's a personal decision.

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Speaker 1: I think about, like, you know, do you prioritize yourself

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Speaker 1: if you asked me personally. And I'm not, you know,

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Speaker 1: the arbiter of everyone's personal choices or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: but I do think at a certain point, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know how this manifests in your actions or anything

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're just constantly I mean obvious it

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Speaker 2: Well he's doing a lot better, but that was that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'm nobody's forcing me

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Speaker 1: She was all up. She's ninety four.

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Speaker 2: You said she's my great aunt, not my aunt. I

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Speaker 2: Because in all honesty, I feel like you know, she's

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Speaker 1: Just why doesn't she why doesn't she pay for somebody

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Speaker 2: We've tried, We've tried to get people to come in

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Speaker 1: You have a man butt. But like I I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get what you're saying. She's just like

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Speaker 1: What's your name again, now, Matt? Well, Matt, thanks for

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Speaker 2: I hope, just man, I appreciate you calling me, dude.

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Speaker 2: I've been listening to your podcast has been helping me

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Speaker 1: So cool. Well, I'm glad to hear that.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: I just.

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Speaker 1: If you leave this conversation with anything, I hope it's

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Speaker 4: Young guy, all right, So I'm glad you think.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for calling, Matt, have a good one.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, man, a good one.

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Speaker 1: Fuck, dude, I don't know. This stuff is hard for

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Speaker 2: Know that either?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Hello, who is this?

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Speaker 4: My name is sabbenas Venus.

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Speaker 1: You know what's up? Sabina?

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Speaker 6: Pretty good today?

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Speaker 4: I would say, where you call them from?

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Speaker 6: I'm calling from Denmark.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool? What part of Denmark?

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Speaker 1: Oh cool, Man. Copenhagen's just I mean, it's one of

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Speaker 1: You know what's fucked up is like Americans are known

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 2: We eat a lot of how do you put it?

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Speaker 1: Sweeden is worse though, Yeah, Sweden h the seven eleven.

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Speaker 2: Have you tried the fast.

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Speaker 1: Mesh fast mash? What's a fast mash.

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Speaker 6: It's like a coffee machine. They have it like tank stations,

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Speaker 1: So you're telling me that you guys have a mashed

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well Sweden has that, it's not in Copenhagen.

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Speaker 6: I could I really could imagine I've tried a few,

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Speaker 1: Well, Sabina, I feel like you didn't call in to

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Speaker 6: But you know, sometimes it's just tough being the friend

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Speaker 1: You know, the friend that always has the bad news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, every time you see someone and.

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Speaker 6: They just never have anything good to say, right, And

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Speaker 6: Well, the first one is going to be a little

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Speaker 6: that we live our lives with the pay we get

442
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Speaker 6: from school. But I took a three year education and

443
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Speaker 6: one day they just all decided that that somehow I

444
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 6: went to the wrong school or something, and and they

445
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Speaker 6: wanted me to pay it all back.

446
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Speaker 2: And then you went to a school a lot.

447
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Speaker 1: Wait, so you went to a school that Denmark is like,

448
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: oh wait, we actually don't cover this school, so you

449
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: have to give us that money back.

450
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Speaker 6: Yeah, decided that all of a sudden, despite them like

451
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Speaker 6: approving of it.

452
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Speaker 1: Are they allowed to do that? Well, I guess if

453
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Speaker 1: you're a government of a country, you can kind of

454
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Speaker 1: do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah.

455
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Speaker 6: But I had lawyers on it and everything. It wasn't

456
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Speaker 6: just me, it was all the students that went to

457
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Speaker 6: my class. Oh, we had a lawyer. Look, into it,

458
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 6: and unfortunately, that particular place is protected by one paragraph

459
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 6: that says that the student is responsible to figure out

460
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Speaker 6: if the state is right in their approval.

461
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Speaker 1: So you did like a class action lawsuit.

462
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Speaker 6: We tried, but unfortunately due to the fact that it

463
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Speaker 6: was already a part of the their rules and you know,

464
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Speaker 6: in terms, and there wasn't really much we could do.

465
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 6: We just got screwed.

466
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Speaker 1: So how many around? How many? So a bunch of

467
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who went to the school got

468
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Speaker 1: fun How many people got fucked.

469
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Speaker 6: Well, at first we thought it was twenty four, but

470
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Speaker 6: it turned out that it was also a student from

471
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Speaker 6: earlier years, so around two hundred, and it was also

472
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Speaker 6: people that whether they're from like it's almost ten years ago.

473
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 6: I think we figured out that got hit by well

474
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Speaker 6: what is it called. They had to pay it back

475
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Speaker 6: for a school.

476
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Speaker 1: They went to, toy damn. So you're just going along

477
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: living your life and all of a sudden, the Danish

478
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: government hits you with a bill for your school that

479
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Speaker 1: you went to ten years ago.

480
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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, that's what's happened to them.

481
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Speaker 1: So I'm curious, do you know personally anybody else who

482
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Speaker 1: is in this group of two hundred people, and if so, like,

483
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Speaker 1: do you know what they're doing? What their plan is

484
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Speaker 1: to kind of deal with all this stuff?

485
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Speaker 6: Some of them, many of them dropped out. This happened

486
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 6: for our class before we were even done with school,

487
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 6: and many of them dropped out. So I lost contact

488
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 6: with them automatically. But I had one really close friend

489
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 6: who she also took a loan on the side. Didn't

490
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 6: do that really cheap payback as well, if well, if

491
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 6: the state doesn't get you really but it was almost

492
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Speaker 6: half a million of the English crowns she had to

493
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Speaker 6: pay back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what school for.

495
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 6: Fasion design?

496
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Speaker 4: Okay? Do you do you?

497
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Speaker 1: Were you able to get some kind of a job.

498
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Speaker 6: Kind of? I'm a freelancer and I'm doing pretty okay.

499
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 6: It's the session market is the fashion market isn't really

500
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 6: the biggest and broadest in in Europe or Denmark specifically,

501
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 6: So I already knew that I couldn't work for like

502
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Speaker 6: a company and I had to go freelancing. So I'm

503
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Speaker 6: a hatmaker in Sweden at the moment, you're doing what

504
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 6: in Sweden? I'm a a hat maker?

505
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Speaker 1: You make hats in Sweden? Yeah, that's cool. I like

506
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: any kind of job that was, you know, they were

507
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Speaker 1: doing in the seventeen hundreds, and I feel like a

508
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Speaker 1: Swedish hat maker. It's cool that in the year of

509
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, almost twenty twenty four, there are still Swedish

510
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Speaker 1: hat makers.

511
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's it's huge. Whenever a Swedish student gets

512
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Speaker 6: a PhD, they have to get the doctor's head. And

513
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 6: that's the kind of hats I do. So I have

514
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 6: a work every six months when they graduate.

515
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Speaker 1: Ah, that's smart. So how much dot are you? And

516
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: from Danish fuckery?

517
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Speaker 6: Well, I was one hundred and seventy five thousand Danish crowns.

518
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 6: I don't know how much that is, can I can

519
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 6: I look it up? Requid?

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00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's find that out. Let's see Danish crowns two

521
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: usd okay, one hundred and seventy five one two three,

522
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: it's about twenty five thousand dollars. Yeah, okay, not you know,

523
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to like student debt, I feel like

524
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: that's not horrible.

525
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 6: Oh no, not at all compared to like what you

526
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 6: get in America. From what I hear.

527
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, good dude, some people in America

528
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: are like, you know, high six figures in student debt.

529
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: But but I mean, but it's I mean, it's it is,

530
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: it does. It is made a little bit worse by

531
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Speaker 1: the fact that you didn't, you know, because at least

532
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: the people who go like six figures into debt like

533
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: they knew they were going to take it on, whereas

534
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: you didn't know you were going to even take that

535
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: dead on. You just got fucked by by Denmark.

536
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 6: This has been the equivalent of having done a job

537
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 6: for three years and then suddenly your boss comes back

538
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 6: and say you didn't do your job. Probably therefore you

539
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 6: have to pay off your entire payment. You have to

540
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 6: get it back again. M. Well, it took all my savings,

541
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 6: so I'm out of it luckily, but I don't have

542
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 6: any money now.

543
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: Are you able to make decent enough money making hats?

544
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 6: M Yeah, it's okay. I'm probably going to go back

545
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 6: to school to get some quote unquote real education at

546
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Speaker 6: some point because I can't do it full time, sadly,

547
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 6: and it's good pay, but it's not you know enough.

548
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 6: Market's a very expensive city to live in, and even

549
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 6: more now than ever.

550
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what could possibly be realer than being

551
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: a Swedish hat maker.

552
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 6: Thank you.

553
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 1: Well when you say when you say a real education,

554
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: what does that mean?

555
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Speaker 6: You know, I've kind of come to the realization that

556
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 6: i need to have a job, well another job on

557
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 6: the side, to make it by and to save up

558
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 6: comfortably and stuff like that. So I'm taking an education

559
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 6: in children's psychology.

560
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: Oh cool, in January.

561
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 6: Hopefully, and then I'm going to be like a kindergarten

562
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 6: teacher for a couple of years.

563
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to say this, Sabina, I'm sorry

564
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: that you're struggling, but also on that on the other hand,

565
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: it does it is kind of comforting to hear that

566
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: people are economically fucked in Denmark too, because I think

567
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: a lot of Americans think it's just us.

568
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 6: No, yeah, no, I think it's everybody, and the entirety

569
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 6: of Scandinavia is really except no way they're doing great,

570
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 6: because don't people.

571
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Always and not by lot, I'm talking about things that

572
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: I just have no idea about, and I just I'm

573
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: like making this all up and have no idea what

574
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But I feel like people always like

575
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: point to Scandinavia as like, oh, this is how we

576
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: should do things.

577
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, yeah, yeah, in a lot

578
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 6: of ways we do it. I would never I always

579
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 6: think about living like somewhere that's really really warm, because

580
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 6: these days we have minus five degrees celsius, which is

581
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 6: pretty fucking cold and sweat. I'd love to go somewhere warm.

582
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 6: But Scandinavia is just.

583
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 4: It's really really good.

584
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 6: It's it's it's the inn existenses. But the health care

585
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 6: and the mental health care is it's nice and it

586
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 6: doesn't it doesn't put depths on the children.

587
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: If you guys get you guys get free health care

588
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: in Denmark.

589
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 6: Yes, always paid over the our taxes. Of course we

590
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 6: have those abnormally high taxes so but but yeah, free

591
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 6: health care and free mental health care.

592
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: I feel like they give you do they give you

593
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: free popsicles when we go to the doctor, just like

594
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: in general, just if you just get a yearly popsicle

595
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: if you live in Denmark. Mmm.

596
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: No.

597
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 6: But every fourth years when we have like our what's

598
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 6: it called the change of state the elections, people always

599
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 6: standing like around the stations and they're giving out free

600
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 6: bread and sometimes popsicles.

601
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: What's your name against Sabina, Yes, Sabina, well Sabina. I

602
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, you sound like you're doing pretty good.

603
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: When you said you had a I hope this isn't diminishing.

604
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: But when you said you had a rough couple of years,

605
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: I was expecting far worse. You sound like you're doing okay.

606
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 6: I am, but I'm doing okay.

607
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: But I've a.

608
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 6: I'm doing a lot of therapy at the moment for

609
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 6: a lot of other couple of stuff, and that's really

610
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 6: working for me. But I'm trying to stay positive, you know,

611
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 6: mh just I spent the last six months being absolutely miserable.

612
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 6: I had a terrible deadn't job at that time that

613
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 6: really knocked me off my feet after the thing. But

614
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 6: I'm out of it and not to therapy, and that's good.

615
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: Have you have you have you learned? And has therapy

616
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: been helpful for you? Oh?

617
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 6: Yeah absolutely. I've done a psychotherapy with meta cognitive treatment.

618
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 6: I think it's called in English.

619
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's.

620
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 6: It's learning to uh to look at your own thoughts

621
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 6: and feeling as neutral I'm not not as a part

622
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 6: of yourself.

623
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard of that stuff, like

624
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole you are not your thoughts idea.

625
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.

626
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, man, because if you're not like,

627
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing to think about, because if you're

628
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: not your thoughts, then what are you?

629
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

630
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's uh. I asked about that as well, and

631
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 6: my my therapist she said, that's the eternal question that

632
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 6: they always ask themselves and we should ask ourselves. But

633
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 6: we are not our thoughts.

634
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: We are not our thoughts. We are a talking gecko

635
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: and a Swedish hat maker. Yes, Sabina, is there anything

636
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the

637
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: computer before we go?

638
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: I hope that.

639
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 6: Everybody stands up for themselves and hangs in there, because

640
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 6: I know everybody is struggling in these times, but I

641
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 6: think it's going to be better and hopefully somedays the

642
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 6: how is Margaret Precious.

643
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: Having the rest of the night?

644
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 6: You too?

645
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: Thank you bye, Sabina. All you know, what I'm realizing

646
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: is that we actually on the I think. On the

647
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: most recent podcast we also had a Danish caller, and

648
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: I also talked a lot about Danish seven eleven for real,

649
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: if you have, if you've ever, if you ever go

650
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: to seven eleven, you've got to get the honey chicken

651
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: at the at the Danish seven eleven. It's really good.

652
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: It's better if you go on like a Yelp or whatever,

653
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: their trip advisor, whatever the fuck, it'll tell you all

654
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: these fancy restaurants. Don't do that. Go to seven eleven

655
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: and get the honey chicken. It's really good.

656
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: All from Jarrett. Hello, Hello, Oh my god, am I

657
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: actually with you?

658
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? What's your name, Doug?

659
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: Oh?

660
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 4: Hey, my name is Jarrett.

661
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: Jarrett. What's happening?

662
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: I need it? Uh? I woke up to your stream

663
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Speaker 4: and was dedicated to get onto it, and now.

664
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Speaker 1: Here we are, Jared, Jared Man, Hell, yeah, what's up?

665
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 6: Man?

666
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: What do you well? I feel like, you know, if

667
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: you're dedicated to getting on the stream, I feel like

668
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: there was something you wanted to talk about. It's okay. Yeah.

669
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 4: A while ago, it was like the biggest thing I

670
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 4: wanted to do because I was like really depressed and

671
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: I just needed like somebody random and anonymous to talk to.

672
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: And then I saw your stream and then I was

673
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 4: just like, oh, this is perfect, and so I set

674
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 4: aside some time because I'm like always busy now and

675
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: I hate it to try and talk to you. And well,

676
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: now here I am. But now life is kind of okay.

677
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: It's a little bit better, but it's still ambiguous, and

678
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do.

679
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: What do you mean by ambiguous?

680
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 4: Well, I have all these things going for me, but

681
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like I'm getting nowhere in life,

682
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm wasting a lot of opportunity,

683
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: and I feel really bad about it, and I just

684
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm in college, I have jobs, I

685
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: work with my parents, but I'm going nowhere.

686
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: What opportunity do you have that you feel as though

687
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: you were wasting.

688
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: The fact that I go to college. I know that's

689
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: not I know it's like something a lot of people

690
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: in America do, but like a lot of people also

691
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 4: don't get the chance to go to college. I don't know.

692
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 4: I just I went into I went to school, or

693
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: I went to high school just because it was the

694
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: only thing to do, and then I went to college

695
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: just because it was the only thing to do. My

696
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: parents were just you know, telling me, like, it's the

697
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: best thing for you. So I did it without thinking

698
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 4: about what was after that or what else I could do,

699
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: because I don't know, like what I want to do

700
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: with my life. I like doing small, niche hobbies. I

701
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: like like like blacksmithing and rock climbing, not papers and essays.

702
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: And we are on the cusp of World War three,

703
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: which will be fought with guns, but famously, world War

704
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: four will be fought with sticks and stones. So if

705
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: you get in early on the blacksmithing in about thirty years,

706
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: you might be the most in demand skillsmen in the

707
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: United States.

708
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: Then I can't wait for World War four.

709
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: You're gonna make a lot of money off of World

710
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: War four. How old are you?

711
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 4: I'm twenty?

712
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you mean you why?

713
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: Well?

714
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: I still after everything you've told me, don't understand why

715
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: you feel guilty or like you're wasting something. What do

716
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: you feel like you're wasting? Well?

717
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: Everything that I do, I well, at least recently. No,

718
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 4: that's not true, because my whole life I feel like

719
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 4: I haven't really achieved anything other than just kind of

720
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: getting by, And like.

721
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: What the fuck are you supposed to have achieved by now?

722
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I look at all my friends

723
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: around me, and they've achieved stuff, like some of them

724
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: are already.

725
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: No, like which of your hold on, hold on, hold

726
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: on which of your friends are millionaires.

727
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: I have this one friend, Okay, I don't want to

728
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: get too specific, but I went to a private school

729
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 4: with a bunch of like richie prissy kids, and they're

730
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: pretty nice. But one of them's already like he invested

731
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: in like crypto and stuff like that, and now he's

732
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 4: a millionaire and he's like, it's oh man. And then

733
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 4: another person like they're already ahead on their college degree

734
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: and they're already like they're already graduated college and they're

735
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: onto their or their PhD.

736
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, before them. Look, look, look some people,

737
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: some hold on. Some people got a lot of money

738
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: from their parents, put it into cryptocurrency and it made

739
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: them a lot of money, and that's what happened to them.

740
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: That's their life. Who gives a ship Does an affect

741
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: you at all?

742
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 4: That's true, I guess.

743
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Well, And by the way, that's not really I mean,

744
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't really know what if that's I mean, I'm

745
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: not going to knock it. I mean it's you know,

746
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: they have a lot of money. That's always it's cool.

747
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: Having a lot of money is cool, but like, well

748
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't really do anything.

749
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 4: That's true.

750
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: What do you want to do? What do you want

751
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: to what do you want to do? What do you like? Actually?

752
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Because I mean right now, you're just getting mad at

753
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: yourself because you don't have ten Ethereum, I.

754
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: Guess I don't know. That's the other thing I want

755
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: to talk to about this. I have no clue. I've

756
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: never known what I wanted to do with my life.

757
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 6: Uh.

758
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 4: I've always just enjoyed the hobbies that I do.

759
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: All right, What are the hobbies that you do aside

760
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: from just blacksmithing'.

761
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 4: I like rock climbing, skateboarding, uh, scuba diving? What else?

762
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 4: I play music? I love playing like piano. Whenever I'm

763
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: like frustrated.

764
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: Bro, it sounds like you do a lot of things.

765
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: I do a lot I have. I do martial arts

766
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: and stuff too. It's just I don't know, man, I

767
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: can't make a career I have any of this stuff.

768
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: You're a renaissance man, you know. I uh so, So

769
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: it's what it's about, like making money?

770
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's mainly I just want to be successful, not

771
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 4: about making money, but just enough to like live comfortably

772
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: and to support a family, because I do want a

773
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: family one day.

774
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, This is all interesting because I I,

775
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, well, what does successful look.

776
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: Like to you? What my parents are like right now

777
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: is actually like the best example. My dad, he was

778
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 4: kind of in the same boat as me, and then

779
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 4: he found my mom and then they were just on

780
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: their own for their entire like thirties, and my mom

781
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 4: became a vet or she was a vet, and then

782
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 4: that's when they met, and then they kind of just

783
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: started building a life off of that, and then over

784
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: time they started upgrading and upgrading, Like they were in

785
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 4: a little apartment when I was born, and then they

786
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: moved on to like buying a house during the housing

787
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 4: crisis of two thousand meets.

788
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: But so are you saying that but like by having

789
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: a big house is successful for you.

790
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: No, We're not in a big house. It's just like

791
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: a medio gresse. I'm just saying, like, if I could

792
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: own my own place live, make enough to like buy

793
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: to buy groceries for the week, and to also like

794
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 4: going vacations.

795
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: Number what's the number? What's an amount of money? Who

796
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: do you want to make.

797
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: That? I want to at least a million year?

798
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: You want to.

799
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: Dude?

800
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Fuck you shut the fuck up. You're like you said.

801
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: You said, well, it's funny because you said I want

802
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: to I just want to have enough to support a family,

803
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: and because you went from you, dude, you just went

804
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: from I want to have enough to support a family

805
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: and get groceries and blah blah blah, and then you

806
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: were like, I want to make a million dollars a year, which, hey,

807
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: it's seventy years. That might be the number to support

808
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: a family and get groceries, but it's not right now.

809
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 4: Oh shit, maybe like five K, that five hundred K.

810
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: Sorry, you want to make five hundred thousand dollars a year.

811
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say at least that then, because that

812
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: between five hundred k. And I was like, it's like

813
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 4: the average, I guess, or not like the average for

814
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: everybody in America.

815
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: But just like, dude, hold on, five hundred thousand dollars,

816
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: all right. I don't know what school you went to,

817
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: but it is brainwashed you. Five hundred thousand dollars is

818
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: not the average salary in America.

819
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 4: I know, No, I know, I meant, I meant, I

820
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: meant that, like like like in general, I guess it's

821
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: just what I want, what I want, that's my success.

822
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: And Okay, that's yours. That's that's that's yours. But there's

823
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: nothin I'm not, by the way, there's nothing wrong with

824
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: wanting to make a lot of money. I don't think

825
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that if that's if that's your

826
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: prerogative in life. Okay, so you want to make five

827
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a year.

828
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least I would say, because that's that's what

829
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: I mean by live comfortably, because then you can like

830
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 4: get the things you want and still have enough to

831
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: pay the bills and all that kind of stuff.

832
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna buy all right, I'm gonna tell you

833
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: a few things. One is that money is like a tool,

834
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, if you just and if you just start

835
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: randomly spouting off like, oh, I want to make five

836
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars because that's how much it costs to

837
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: live comfortably. You're you you need to I'm gonna get

838
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: practical with you on this. You need to do this,

839
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: and you need to reverse your thinking on this, okay,

840
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: because you actually need to start from the other end,

841
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: because you're starting with a number and then working backwards

842
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: with a life, right, So why don't you start with

843
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: a life and then come up with a number from there. Right,

844
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying to you right now?

845
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: So go ahead and go, I'm gonna this is real

846
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: like shit, So you go, Okay, I want to be

847
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: able to do this and do this and have this

848
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: and then this, and then you get your number from there,

849
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: because you might What you might actually find out is

850
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: that if your goal is to support a family and

851
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: have groceries, it actually doesn't cost five hundred thousand dollars. Hum,

852
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: I guess, So do you get what I'm saying?

853
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 4: No?

854
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: I do?

855
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: I do?

856
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 4: Or's is okay?

857
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: You?

858
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? I guess that's the normal way to look

859
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: at it. Then I don't know, just hyper inflated throughout

860
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 4: like thinking throughout my life.

861
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, because you're crazy and you grew up

862
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: around a bunch of crazy people who all have a

863
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: million dollars in in in doge coin or whatever. But uh,

864
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, like what also?

865
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: Right?

866
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean you're also twenty man? Like what?

867
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

868
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: Gars a bay? Any of this stuff? Go go be poor.

869
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 4: I'm a junior in college too, and I've failed at

870
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: least three classes and okay, I don't know if I'm

871
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 4: gonna graduate on time and all that kind of like stress.

872
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: My parents are kind of like they're not like strict,

873
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 4: but they're also they also like want me to do well,

874
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 4: so they stay on top of me quite a bit.

875
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 4: And if I ever like get like a C or

876
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 4: a D, then they start to like really pounce on me.

877
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 4: So when I failed three courses in a year, they

878
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: were not happy with me.

879
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: So okay, and what do you now? I'm just kind

880
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: of floating, bro, what's your name again?

881
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 4: Jarrett?

882
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: Jarrett? Jarrett Jarrett? You're crazy?

883
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 2: Man?

884
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: I hold on, Jarrett, You're no, You're it's you're the

885
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: good kind of crazy. Okay, all right, let's get can

886
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: we can we I'm just trying to calm down for

887
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: a second. What are you? What are you studying in school?

888
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 4: Currently? My major is biochemistry, but I want to change

889
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 4: it over to chemistry because I don't know it just

890
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 4: chemistry just comes easier to me than biology.

891
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: Jarret, Do you like chemistry?

892
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's exciting enough to me to be like,

893
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 4: oh I could I could stare at this for hours?

894
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: Okay, It's it's good enough that you could do it

895
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life.

896
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: I don't know about that.

897
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

898
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: That's that's why that's where I come. That's where like

899
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 4: my inner conscience comes in, and it's just like, well,

900
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: hold on their pal and I'm like, I'm very scared

901
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: to commit to it because I like doing other things too.

902
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Okay, because honestly, because you know, also, I don't think

903
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with like, I mean, Jared, you're a

904
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: renaissance man. You listed off like six different hobbies. Yeah,

905
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's anything wrong at all with

906
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: having some shitty jade day job and then on the

907
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: side doing your hobbies and living your life.

908
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 4: I guess so.

909
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: But I still, I'm still I just the reason I

910
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: said you're crazy is because for a lot of reasons

911
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: is because you are, like, oh, I'm twenty and I

912
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: haven't accomplished anything yet, and I'm gonna beat myself up

913
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: about it and freak out about it because I don't

914
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: have a million dollars in cryptocurrency like my friend does

915
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: care and also, you know, I need to make five

916
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to buy groceries. You know. You're yeah,

917
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta come, you gotta come back down

918
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: to earth. My friend, you'll have a good time here.

919
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more than just the fact I don't know.

920
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm kind of scared to talk about a

921
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 4: lot of this stuff. But I don't really care at

922
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 4: this point. What do you mean?

923
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: Why what do you hold on? What are you Why

924
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: are you scared to talk about this stuff?

925
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 4: Because like that's just like the start, that's where it starts.

926
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 4: I just I don't think I'm a failure in life,

927
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 4: because like I crashed my car a lot and I

928
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: had to pay it all off, so I lost all

929
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: my money, and then I failed college. I barely made

930
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 4: it out of high school. Well it's not completely true,

931
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 4: but like yeah, and then I said, like I didn't

932
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 4: really achieve anything. I don't have anything out there with

933
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 4: my name on it other than like maybe my Instagram.

934
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: Bro, you're you're scuba diving in blacks thing. You're not

935
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: a failure.

936
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 4: Those aren't Like.

937
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: But I just Jared, listen, I'm not taking back what

938
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: I said about you being crazy. You're crazy, but you're

939
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 1: not a failure. Okay, you're not. You're not a failure.

940
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: You're you're too you're too young to write yourself off

941
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: as a failure. Because you got into a car accident

942
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: and because you are skipping. You know, you fucked up

943
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: some classes. You just stop doing that. Don't write, don't

944
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: write yourself off as a failure. Okay, just stop doing

945
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: that today, all right?

946
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, mister, okay, yeah, it just it gets to.

947
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: Me you're not You're not You're not a failure because you,

948
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, fucked up a little bit here and there,

949
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: as in, you're at the age of twenty and I mean,

950
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: let me ask you a couple of questions. Did you

951
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: kill anyone in this car accident?

952
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 4: No? No, no, no no?

953
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: Did you get did you get three five times above

954
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: the alcohol limit for driving and murder a six year

955
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: old girl? Lord?

956
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: God?

957
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 4: No?

958
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: All right, look, these these are my standards for for failure.

959
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: All right. Did you did you get somebody pregnant?

960
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 4: No?

961
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: God, okay, I wish I did though, But no, dude,

962
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: you're crazy, all right?

963
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 4: I want it like because that would mean I would

964
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 4: have a relationship with something like a really strong.

965
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: Really no, you don't know you dude. Okay, here's the thing. No,

966
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: because here's the thing I want you to. I want

967
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: you to know something. Oh you know something?

968
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, you.

969
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: You having no money and being twenty is fine. You

970
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: having no money and being twenty and having a kid

971
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: is not fine. But you haven't. You having no money

972
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: m right now and it's just you and you're not

973
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: responsible for anyone else. Yeah, you're fine, You're not a failure.

974
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: You're fine. Okay, Okay, all right, you're fine. Just can

975
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: you trust me that you're fine?

976
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 4: All right?

977
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I was saying to you,

978
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: but uh, look, you didn't fucking kill anything like just

979
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: you've given me no reason as to why you're a

980
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: failure who should go die in the woods. And that's

981
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: what I'm sensing is how you feel about yourself. And

982
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't think you should you should feel that way anymore.

983
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, thank you. I just I don't know, it's

984
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: been I don't know. Maybe it's been getting in my

985
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: own head. I don't know. It's just it's been rough

986
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: for me at least lately. And that's why I wanted

987
00:56:59,280 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: to talk to you.

988
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the conversation that we've had

989
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: so far?

990
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: I guess better kind of made me also chat really

991
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 4: helped with like them flaming on me. You realize I know.

992
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the chat. I don't know if

993
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: they're I don't really care.

994
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: Whether they or not they're flaming on you, but they

995
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 4: can flame.

996
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: Sorry. Ah, you're fucking crazy, dude, Jared. Why don't you

997
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: go make Why don't you go? You know what? You

998
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: know what? I think you need to do what I

999
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: think you're two in your head and you got to

1000
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: go make a sword?

1001
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 4: Dude? You're right.

1002
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: Why don't you go make a sword? Dude?

1003
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 4: That is a good idea. Just spend some time making

1004
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 4: a sword. It's cold outside, though, to make a sword,

1005
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 4: because that's where the forges go.

1006
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: Buddy, go make a fucking go be a back smith,

1007
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: Go be Skyrim. Go make a fucking sword in the cold.

1008
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: Do it? That sounds awesome. I want to make a

1009
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: sword in the cold, I guess so in the snow.

1010
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: That sounds sick, dude.

1011
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 4: I'll save it for breaks because I have finals and

1012
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 4: shit coming up to thank you to study four.

1013
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go do that and just I don't know, Jared,

1014
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: don't beat yourself up so much because you don't have

1015
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: a million dollars.

1016
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 4: Thank you, mister gecko.

1017
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1018
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: people of the computer before.

1019
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 4: We go, one more thing. I've been wanting to save

1020
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 4: this on such a big platform for so long. Learn

1021
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 4: to trim your animals toenails. Please, for the love of God,

1022
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 4: do that.

1023
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm very glad that you chimed in with maybe the

1024
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: most random thing you possibly could have said. At the

1025
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: end of this call, thank you for that.

1026
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: You're welcome, Take care, Jared, good luck, you two get go.

1027
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: Who I want all? I want a million dollars. I'd

1028
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: be sick. But you know what, we can't all have.

1029
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: We can't all have a million dollars in cryptocurrency, and

1030
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: if we did, it would be worthless. That's what. That's what.

1031
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: That's what. Maybe the government should just give us all

1032
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: a million dollars and we'd all be happy. You know

1033
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna run for president and

1034
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: my platform is that I'm gonna give Didn't Kanye West

1035
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: say that once? Didn't he say that we should give

1036
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: every baby a million dollars? He was right about that,

1037
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: we should give every baby a million dollars. Every week

1038
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: and goes on the line taking your phone calls every

1039
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: nighte every week and goes to his lie.

1040
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 4: Was teaching you a

1041
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: Loud in the memory line, but he's not ready an

1042
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: expert