1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. The single best idea, 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: the single best idea is that David Ger and I 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: will not work this weekend. That's where we're trying to 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: get to. The politics of America continues an important meeting 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: with mister Yahoo and mister Trump in Florida on this Friday. 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Davy Girl with wonderful perspective on that Today the show 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: was wonderfully eclectic. A major thank you. Under real dress. 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Carolyne Conan of our Paris news bureau got us started 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: on the Paris Olympics in the train. I don't know 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: what I call it sabotage. I'm trying to not make 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: news here, but I think that's appropriate where many of 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: the train tracks across France are shut down. She mentioned 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: the track out to Brittany out of Montpa perhaps is damaged, 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: as well as the trip from London to Paris. But 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: thank you to Carolyn Conan literally sitting, I believe, on 16 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: a train when she gave us at report on the batphone. 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: A lot of other things going on as well, but 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: the key one was the inflation data today, and so 19 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: we spoke to Bloomberg's surveillance philosopher Ira Jersey. 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: I mean everything's transitory. Life is transitory if you wait 21 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: long enough, right, Well, I love that philosophy. 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: Here he was worse than credit suitee continue. 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: So you know, obviously there's cyclicality, right, So we always 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: look at trends versus cycles, and that's one of the 25 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: important things. So, you know, we had this forty five 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: year downtrend in interest rates, forty year down to which 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: was subsequent to a forty year down trend in inflation. 28 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: And now we've broken too that to the upside. So 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: so now we're looking not only for you know, what's 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: the new trend in both inflation and therefore different markets, 31 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: you know, fixing come markets really yields like you're noted, 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: And then what is the cycle around that? And do 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: we have inflationary cycles now that have higher highs for 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: inflation and higher lows. The answer is probably for the 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: next cycle or two we will have that type of environment. 36 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: Iiraon Jersey. There was some good reporting, and of course 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: we saw in the bond market some stasis off of 38 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: the set of economic data today, but nevertheless equities higher 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: and fixed income yields came in. I saw a lot 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: of different voices suggesting September as we were heading to 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: But boy, we have to really keep in mind the 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: essay by William Dudley, the former New York FED President. 43 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: We saw that on Bloomberg Opinion, a blistering essay stop 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: screwing around and move July thirty one, that puts some 45 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: tension into the FED decides we'll do that next week. 46 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: John Fair, Lisa Bramwoitz, and myself as well on the 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: tech juggernaut to come. In the background, there's Tesla and Google, 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: but far more there's this stress us over cap X 49 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: every once in a while, and we talked to people 50 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: this this blather blather. I'm as guilty of it as anyone. 51 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: And then someone steps in with specificity where the show 52 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: just stops on AI. On Capex for Global, Wall Street, 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: Gene Munster, deep water asset. 54 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: Management companies are spending about fifty billion a year on CAPEX. 55 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: So you figure over a three year period, one hundred 56 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: and fifty billion. They're generating about one hundred billion a 57 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: year in income. Of that capex, by the way, about 58 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: half of it is related to AI. So said another way, 59 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: seventy five billion over three years. Their market caps are 60 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: two plus trillion dollars, and as Zuckerberg said this weekend 61 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: is Bloomberg Podcast, that there's just too much risk if 62 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: they don't pursue this, because it is the biggest changes 63 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: he talked about in the next ten to fifteen years. 64 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: I think it's the biggest change in the next fifty. 65 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: But the point is is that I think that if 66 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: one of these companies takes the approach of let's save 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: ten billion dollars here, ten billion dollars there over a 68 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: over a year period, I think it could be a 69 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: just a historic mistake. And so they get it. Google 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: said it soundar sat on their call that they have 71 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: to continue to embrace capex and ultimately, Dave that is 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: that's the central question of what AI investors should focus 73 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 3: in on, at least over the next year or two years, 74 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: is what does that capex pace look like? 75 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Gene Munster bottle that that's just incredibly important comments there 76 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: as he breaks out the actual numbers within this Capex 77 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: panic over AI. We will go next week too, an 78 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 1: exceptionally important final week of July. We've got the FED meeting, 79 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: We've got the earnings here that we will observe from Microsoft, 80 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: from Amazon, from Apple and others. We're on YouTube, let's 81 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: forget that. Subscribe to Bloomberg podcast please. That's the best 82 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: way to help me drive this forward. You're subscribing to 83 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg podcasts and again on YouTube. A great live chat, 84 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: informative live chat as we build out that audience. On 85 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: Apple CarPlay worldwide and in France. 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