1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: We are back on forties and free agents. 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal alongside Daniel Jeremiah from his mansion in 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: the San Diego area. 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: But that's not it's not public knowledge. 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: We can't let anyone know where you live because you 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: know you rank these guys. People would get upset, they'd 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: come after you. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: I can't tell if that's a Tommy Bahamas shirt or 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: like a Janitor shirt, Like, what are we wearing here? 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an audio medium. Hopefully we canet. 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 3: Where's the patch? I feel patch on that thing? 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: You know. This is the second negative comment I've gotten today, 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: the other one being from my wife on it. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 3: I got it, really, I believe in And are there 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: two opinions you care more about than those two? 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: No, that's the top two ranked right there. Today, we 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: are wrapping up our division look at the twenty twenty 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: five season by taking a little look back of the 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: biggest editions in terms of veterans and rookie It is 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: the AFC East and now we get to do it 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: DJ with the knowledge of everything that happened in training 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: camp and the preseason and spin it forward. We are 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: so close to this season actually starting. You do the rookies, 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: I do the veterans. Why don't you get us going? 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: Sure? I will, And I don't know if there is 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: video that lives on this. I know this obviously an 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: audio form, but if you could just move your mop 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: and bucket, it's in the screen a little bit, if 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 3: you just move it a little bit to the left. Thanks. 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: I mean it's at least cleanly pressed and stuff. It 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: looks like at least I'm putting in a little bit 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 2: of effort, unlike you. 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, greed to a screet I'm gonna go. 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: I tease this on the last one. So let's jump 35 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 3: right into it. Let's go to the Miami Dolphins. Let's 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: go to the sixth round and Ali Gordon out of 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: Oklahoma State, who is a big physical back as I 38 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: do again, we should have got this sponsored. Greg. I 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: think you came up with that idea going back through 40 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: some of these draft notes. But Oli Gordon to me 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: someone that I had it, who's one hundred and forty 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: one on my list. I don't know what the overall 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: pick was where he ended up getting picked. He's one 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: seventy nine, so that was still a little bit higher 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: on him than where he went there, but six zho 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: one to three. So six one and a half two 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty six pounds ran four to six to 48 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: one in Indy, one of the slower running back times there, 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: but didn't bother me at all. When you look at 50 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: the way that he runs, He's got a huge lower half. 51 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: He's a nifty big back. So if you think about comparisons, 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: I wrote down le Garrett Blunt is who he reminded 53 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: me of someone who can absorb contact. He can actually 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 3: catch the ball really well. You'll see some one handed 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: catches when you study his film. He's aggressive and pass pro. 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: I just wrote he's fast enough, like he's for what 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: he does his style, he's fast enough. Senior Bowl was excellent, 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: had a big time game in the Senior Bowl. So 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: I think they got a great, great value there and 60 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: I think would have seen in the preseason this guy 61 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: runs really really hard. 62 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: These backups that have been trying to tackle him can't 63 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: bring him down, you know, they just they just bounce 64 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: off him. Now we'll see it against better competition in 65 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: the regular season, because I think he's going to have 66 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: a chance. Jalen Wright was supposed to be the backup 67 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: there he's out right now with an injury. We'll see 68 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: if he's back for week one, but Gordon maybe won 69 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: that job anyways over Jalen Right, well, we'll see and 70 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: Devon h Chan is banged up right now with a 71 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: soft tissue injury, so it could be week one. Olie 72 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: Gordon getting some really big time snaps and I too 73 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: was impressed. Maybe the big back is coming back to 74 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: love it because you know, because of the extra tight 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: end formations, more power. 76 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: Oh you're seeing too high safeties, the boxes. You know, 77 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 3: it's lighter boxes. So you get somebody who can just 78 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: kind of be a little bit of a hammer in there. 79 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: It's kind of fun. 80 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: So the Dolphins will be using Minka Fitzpatrick quite a 81 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: bit in those two high safety formations that the Anthony 82 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: Weaver does like to run. 83 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: And that's my pick for the Dolphins. 84 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: There a really important year in his career and important 85 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: player for the Miami Dolphins. I think they gave up 86 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: a lot to get him in terms of Jalen Ramsey 87 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: who wasn't happy there and John hus Smith who wanted 88 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: a new home as well. And Minko Fitzpatrick has had 89 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: an interesting career. Sometimes those deep safeties. 90 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: DJ. 91 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: You know, you just don't hear from as much in 92 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: some years than others. But if you, you know, listen 93 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: to the reporters and some of the coaches in Pittsburgh, 94 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: I do think they were a little disappointed with Minka 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick over the last year or two. 96 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes maybe he was had one pick right. 97 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: He sometimes he was freelancing a little bit and not 98 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: being part of the structure of the defense and not 99 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: making as many big plays after an incredible start to 100 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: his career, almost like a Hall of Fame type of 101 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: start to his career. Still relatively young, I think he's 102 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: twenty eight years old, and so they need him to 103 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: be a playmaker in a secondary that doesn't really have 104 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: any other options to be playmakers. 105 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: I think if safety's interceptions from a scouting standpoint, there's 106 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: two types of interceptions. There's ones where the ball finds 107 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: you and there's ones where you go take the ball away. 108 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: And Mika had that production early. And that wasn't just 109 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 3: the ball falling in his lap, tips and overthrows like 110 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: this was him seeing things, driving on routes, making plays 111 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: on the ball like this was him as a playmaker, 112 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: and that we just haven't seen that the last couple 113 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: of years, so I'm hoping. I'm hoping it's in there. 114 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: I'm hoping this kind of revitalizes him, you know, going 115 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: back to Miami and we see that that old school 116 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: version of him. But I don't think he's been the 117 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: same player the last couple of years. 118 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: You know, he got paid. 119 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: He wanted to get paid by the way by the 120 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: Dolphins when he got there, and they essentially decided to no, 121 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: like you got to prove it this time. I think 122 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: they gave him, like they moved his money around a 123 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: little bit. But he's basically in a contract year. Can 124 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: he get one more big contract? So he'll be motivated 125 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: to get it done. And I think Anthony Weaver in 126 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: that second year in Miami, with that defensive front, one 127 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: of the best defensive fronts of everything clicks in the 128 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: entire league. Maybe healthy, maybe they'll be opportunities to make 129 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: some plays because of that quick pass rush. 130 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: Go ahead with your second record. 131 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: They just need to stay healthy too. 132 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: Man. 133 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: Those edge rushers are very talented. They just haven't been 134 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: able to get him on the field. So I'm gonna 135 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: go to my next one here, and again I do 136 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: not have a first round pick in this division. In 137 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: terms of my guys, I'm keeping an eye on that 138 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: I'm excited about, which is interesting. I'm gonna go to 139 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: Buffalo and I'm gonna go to land In Jackson edge 140 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: rusher out of Arkansas, a third round pick. This was 141 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: a transfer there at Arkansas who spent a lot of 142 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: time in the SEC's, played against great competition, and I 143 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: love the way that he played with the the the 144 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: edge that he played with, the physicality that he played with. 145 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: He's six foot six, two hundred and sixty four pounds, 146 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: he ran four six eight excellent straight line speed, had 147 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: an awesome Senior Bowl game, So that's kind of a 148 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: nice thing to see when you're going through the process. 149 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: He wins with a long arm rush. He crushes tight ends. 150 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: As an edge rusher, you cannot get blocked by tight ends, 151 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: and he dominated those matchups. Some angle blocks, you know, 152 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: some guys when they could, you know, block down on 153 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: him or crack on him. And he's to work on 154 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: some of his awareness there. But thought there was a 155 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: violence to the way that he played, and I thought 156 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: he played with outstanding effort. And if you think about 157 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills, and how they play effort, physicality, it's 158 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: a big part of it. This is a big guy 159 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: who can run, who plays really really hard. So I'm 160 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: excited to see him in Sean McDermott's defense. 161 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they could really use some core pieces 162 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: that pop for them that are younger, and he has 163 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: the opportunity to do so. Like my wildcard I just 164 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: got through him now is Joey Bosa, because like to me, 165 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: he's the ultimate wildcard and he's part of this conversation. 166 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: I have been tracking. 167 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: He had a healthy training camp, so that's a good 168 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: sign healthy preseason. I don't know if the snaps are 169 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: there for lot Lannon Jackson right off the bat, because 170 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: they have Epanessa, they have Rousseau, they have Bosa. Do 171 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: you think he's a guy that could play a little 172 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: inside and also among that trio, like they've missed some 173 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: time with injuries and so that that could open up 174 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: an opportunity for Jackson. 175 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: And to me, look the Bosa and I've been around 176 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: you know, Joey for every game that he's played, you know, 177 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: going through his career here or I guess I think 178 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: maybe not even maybe missed his first year or so 179 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: but he uh. He to me, you signed Joey Bosa 180 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: for the playoffs. You sign him to get him, manage 181 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: him through the season, you load management, whatever term you 182 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: want to use, but you want him healthy and ready 183 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: to rock when you get into those meaningful late season games, 184 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: and healthy into the postseason the playoffs. So I would 185 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: say it behooves them to roll guys through. And I 186 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: think I really think he'll earn a role. He can 187 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: rush inside if you want him to. I don't have 188 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: the numbers in front of me, but I think he 189 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: had like eight or nine pressures in the preseason when 190 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: I was going through some of the rookie numbers the 191 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: other day. So he's he's shown some signs he's going 192 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: to be able to get out there and help them. 193 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: I hold it against Landon Jackson though, that during the 194 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: initial run of forties in free agents, you know, I 195 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: called him Donovan Jackson or vice versa. 196 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: So many times. It was just heart. There's also like 197 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: Landon Donovan, it's just. 198 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: Someone's got to choose, someone's got to change it. Maybe 199 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: that's a me problem. I think it is a me problem, 200 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: but I just it's too confusing. 201 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: Well, I can see how you would be easily confused. 202 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: What's who's next? 203 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Well, I threw out Bosa as my wife. 204 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're counting bosas. So then I get to go 205 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: with my next one. There, I'm gonna go to a 206 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: team that I said at the time, and Jack Andraid, 207 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: who does all the research, backed it up in terms 208 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: of just the raw numbers. The New England Patriots, based 209 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: off just how I saw players going through the draft process, 210 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: had the best draft in the NFL in terms of 211 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: the quality of player and the value with where they 212 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: got the players in this draft class. So I've got 213 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: two of them there. I'm gonna go two skill guys 214 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 3: on offense. Obviously Will Campbell is going to be a 215 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: big part as their left tackle, but Travon Henderson at 216 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: running back. You saw it early in the preseason when 217 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: he took a kick to the house, like he is 218 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: a dynamic weapon and you're gonna see him big time 219 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 3: in the pass game. You know, I mentioned it. I 220 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: go back through my notes. He's the best pass protecting 221 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: running back I've ever evaluated coming out. 222 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 223 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: So and that's what the number one thing that keeps 224 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: rookie running backs from getting playtime or getting on the 225 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: field is the trust of the coordinator in the quarterback 226 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: and pass protection. This guy is elite, elite, elite in 227 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: pass pro, big time speed, versatility. He can run every 228 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: route out of the backfield. It's not just you know 229 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: he's running an option route. You can split him out, 230 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: let him run receiver routes. He's got home run speed. 231 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: He ran four four three. He plays much faster than that. 232 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 3: So he just got to keep his feet alive a 233 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: little bit on inside runs. There's times where his feet 234 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: can go dead. He's not gonna be a ware you 235 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: down runner, but he is a fine decrease and and 236 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: create a bunch of explosives. He's gonna be fun for 237 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: Patriot fans to watch man. 238 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: He could not have gotten Patriots fans more excited with 239 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 2: this preseason that he had not just on the field 240 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: in the games where he showed a variety of different 241 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: types of plays, like inside runs where he did do 242 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: a good job fighting through and scoring in the red zone. 243 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: Also running I forget what cornerback it was on the 244 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: vikings over but just like steam rolling in with a 245 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: rugged run. But then also these wheel routes and busting 246 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: open the kickoff like you said, and he's he's gonna 247 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: be a much different player than a Shane Veren and 248 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: Danny Woodhead and these guys. But Josh McDaniels has brought 249 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: up those and if you can add, you know, his 250 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: speed to some of the skill set that those guys had, 251 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: Like watch out, there's gonna be a lot of Patriots 252 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: in this in this show. I hate to bring it 253 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: to you because they were they were so active and 254 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: they need to have a good draft. 255 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: By the way, Drake may. 256 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: Literally might be the only twenty twenty four draft class 257 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: member to make this team. 258 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: Saw that that's not a good look bananas. I will 259 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: go with Milton Williams. 260 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: Look, he was at the top of my free agency 261 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: list and he got taken by the Patriots. 262 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: They went over the top to get him. 263 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 2: He wasn't the top of my original list, but all 264 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: the re signings happened and the franchise tags, and it's 265 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: the type of guy I think that you should overpay 266 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: in free agency, and I think ultimately they did overpay him. 267 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: If they get a version of him. 268 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: DJ Between the Milton Williams we saw for the first 269 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 2: twelve weeks of last season and then the Milton Williams. 270 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: We saw down the stretch and the playoffs. 271 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: If it's somewhere in between, I think they should be happy. 272 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: And I think those that is the type of player 273 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: that they should bet on. But I can imagine the 274 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: Boston Sports radio, Yeaho's being like, well, what's this guy. 275 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: He's you know, he's got some pressures. He's he's got 276 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: like four sacks. Because I don't think he's going to 277 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: be an All Pro player. I just think he's going 278 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: to be a good plus starter and if you have 279 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: the money, spend it, because it's hard to find those 280 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: guys in free agency. 281 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: Dynamic, explosive. I remember when he was coming out into 282 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: the process being he was like one of my favorite 283 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: players that I watched in that cycle, and I remember 284 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: talking to the guys in Philadelphia, you know, before, during, 285 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: and after they got him in there, and I mean, 286 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: he's such a good kid, and he just got better 287 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: and better and better. The explosiveness was always there, and 288 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: then you just started seeing the playmaking come along with it. 289 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: I think you were right to have him as highly 290 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: rated as you did through the free agency process. This 291 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: is the way my mind works. It's kind of weird, Greg, 292 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: but I was just sitting there thinking he was going 293 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: to sign with the Panthers, right, that was everything's going 294 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: that way. He ends up signing with the Patriots. So 295 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 3: James Taylor wrote the song in my mind, I'm going 296 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: to Carolina. But where's James Taylor from and who's a 297 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: fan of He's a Patriots guy. So literally, in his 298 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: mind he was going to Carolina. 299 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: He's on that mask playing from Stockbridge to Boston. 300 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. So again that's uh, if we had the 301 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: music rights, I'm sure we don't. Maybe with all that 302 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: ESPN money coming in there, we can get the rights 303 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: to that song. We could just drop it right in 304 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: the episode. But I don't think that's finalized yet. 305 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought that my parents, you know, playing 306 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: James Taylor NonStop in the car, dragging me. 307 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: In former free agency thoughts. 308 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 2: To some concerts at Tanglewood back back in the day, 309 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: when I was like, ah, do we have to do? 310 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: That'll be okay, and. 311 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: You'll stand up at a concert because I've I've never 312 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: been to a James Taylor concert, but it feels I 313 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: went to a Vince Gill concert and it was very 314 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: much just kind of sit down enjoyable, like in like enjoyable, 315 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: really talented musician, but not really a stand up situation. 316 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember I was a kid. 317 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: My guess is he's sitting, Yeah, those are those are 318 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: soft tunes. The crowd that's definitely showing that they're they're 319 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: drinking wine. You know. Milton Williams was maybe the second 320 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: best like defensive player in that stretch in the playoffs 321 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: for the Eagles, next to Jalen Carter. Like he just 322 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: was so good, and so you do wonder like how 323 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: much of that was the Eagles and the attention to Carter. 324 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Well, he's got Christian Barmore next to him here. 325 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: He's a pretty good defensive line there with with Harold 326 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: Landry who was also a pickup. And you know, I 327 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: just hope that the expectations aren't so high that people 328 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: are disappointing, because I think if he's just like a 329 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: really good player, that that's that's what they needed. They 330 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: had more than enough cap space, and they they spent 331 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: so much money in free agency. I'll just throw out 332 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: another one too, because to me, it was all combined. 333 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: Carlton Davis was another one on their defense, and so 334 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: you spent it on Williams, Harold Landry, and Davis. Davis 335 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: was the one I'm choosing as as one of my 336 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: five kind of a boomer bus player that they're gonna 337 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: really need to stay healthy and hold up. Is good 338 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: in man coverage, but how how important is like man 339 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: coverage in twenty twenty five being that kind of cornerback DJ, Well. 340 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: It depends. There's there's very few teams that are just 341 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: gonna let you go nose to nose and play me 342 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: in coverage the whole time, so not as useful for 343 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: the majority of teams. It's it's nice, it's a great luxury. 344 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: I think, given their druthers, most teams would love to 345 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: have corners where you can line up and do that, 346 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: but not many teams have it. So that's just kind 347 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: of the way the game's played right now. I'm gonna 348 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: go Patriots. Last one here. Kyle Williams, who I know 349 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: is a favorite of yours as well, receiver. He was 350 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: my fifty seventh overall player. He was the sixty ninth pick, 351 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: so again just kind of another example of I thought 352 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: they kind of knocked it out of the park in 353 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: terms of the value where they found these guys a 354 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: little bit under five eleven hundred and ninety pounds, ran 355 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: four to four flat, played inside and outside. He was 356 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: excellent in his release is getting away from press. He's 357 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: got vertical speed, he can separate. I love his ability 358 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: to win early on routes. You want to run a slant, 359 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: you want to get on top of guys, he can 360 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: do it right away. He's got burst with a ball 361 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: in his hands, you know, for run after catch. He 362 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: was excellent again at the Senior Bowl, which you kind 363 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: of see a theme here. A lot of these guys 364 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: that do really well in that setting. It does bode 365 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: well for their future and his ability. This is kind 366 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: of a kind of a I try to think of 367 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: the right ways to describe this, but you know it 368 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: when you see it. So I like guys who can 369 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: go from a static position to a burst. You know, 370 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: Like think about just if you're if you're running a 371 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: curl route, you face up, you catch the ball, You 372 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: catch the ball, your static your feet are in the ground. 373 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: How quick can then you get out and go? And 374 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: this guy has exceptional ability to do that. So I'm 375 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: a big fan of his game. I'll be honest, I 376 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: have not seen him in the in the preseason. I 377 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: have not watched their stuff with him, so I don't 378 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: know how he's done. I haven't seen the reports in camp. 379 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: This is basically solely off my evaluation of him as 380 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: a college play. 381 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: Well. 382 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: He had a concussion in practice after the Vikings game, 383 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: which was the second week, but he is now back 384 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: at practice, so that that cost him a week. But 385 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: I think it's been really positive. Actually, that preseason game 386 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: against the Vikings was part of a trend that we've 387 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: heard at camp where he is winning in terms of 388 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: those releases. He is stacking the cornerbacks and a couple 389 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: times in that game he was wide open going down 390 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: the field and Josh Thobbs couldn't hit him either time. 391 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: One time that the cornerback had like the worst pass 392 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: interference that you've ever seen. They didn't call it, but 393 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: I feel like in a big game they would have 394 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: called it. I guess it was a preseason they should 395 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: have called it. But either way, you saw what you 396 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: wanted to see. I think they like what they've seen 397 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: out of him so far. Him and Kashan Boody are 398 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: both going to get reps on the outside. MATC Collins 399 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: is as well but I think it's a matter of 400 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: time before Williams gets more and more of those reps. 401 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: So I think all systems are going in terms of 402 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: Kyle Williams, and you're. 403 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: Right, I planted my flag at him. 404 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: We had a show, yeah, I mentioned on our last 405 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: show with Me to Kimes, where we each picked our 406 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: favorite player. HER's with Jagod Campbell. I went Kyle Williams. 407 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: I don't remember who your pick was. 408 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: Do you? You did so many shows. 409 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: It's kind of tough to I remember a lot of those, 410 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: but put. 411 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: You on the spot. I think it was Jday Baron. 412 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: I do listen to you. 413 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: Okay, do you like Jday Baron? It could have been 414 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: this next guy who was my wow who? I'm gonna 415 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 3: skip ahead to my wildcard because I just felt weird 416 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: having three Patriots in the in the in the five, 417 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: so I just have one as a wildcard. Who was Again, 418 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: one of my favorite players was Craig Woodson, safety from 419 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: cal So. I'll let producer Drew pull up when he 420 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: was picked what number overall he was? I like giving 421 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 3: Drew homework while we're. 422 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: Live and another you know segment that should be sponsored, 423 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: although like I could easily Google. I don't think you 424 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: need to have a researching background to do this, but 425 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: we'll let him do the do the work. 426 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: He was one oh six according to Drew, he was 427 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: my ninetieth player. Again, kind of stay with that theme. 428 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: If I thought the Patriots, you know, found value all 429 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 3: throughout the draft six ohoh one, two hundred uh so, 430 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 3: six foot eight, two hundred Punds ran four four five 431 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: in Indianapolis as a safety. Let's start here. Leader smart 432 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: the first two things, and that's from talking to everybody 433 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 3: at CAL. He's a little bit older, so he's been 434 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: you know, you see this a little bit with the 435 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: last couple of years with COVID and all that, you 436 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: get some guys who are a little bit older, a 437 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: little more mature. I thought this guy could play in 438 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: the deep half. He's open and smooth. He's he's got 439 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: speed and physicality when he's working downhill until the alleys, 440 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: takes great angles. He has a lot of underneath PBUs. 441 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: He's a real firm tackler. And I thought the intelligence 442 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: wasn't just you know, off the field stuff. This is 443 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: someone who plays with excellent instincts on the field, which 444 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: is huge for a safety. To me, I just looked 445 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 3: at this cal sneakily had a lot of safeties that 446 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: have ended up being starters in the last five six years. 447 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: It's been a nice little factory there. I thought this 448 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: guy was ready made, ready to go step on the 449 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: field and play. And it sounds like from what I 450 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: have heard on him is that he's earning some time there. 451 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: Oh, I think he's starting week one. 452 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: He's certainly playing in their you know, din packages is 453 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: probably their nickel, but like it sounds like he is 454 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: going to be a week one starter there with Jabrill 455 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: Peppers also at safety. But he beat out some veterans 456 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: and everything that you said, that's what you hear from 457 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: the coaches, and it was kind of an immediate guy 458 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: that like, whoa, this is a dude. And yes, after 459 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: a rough draft class a year ago, they're gonna have 460 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: a lot of rookie starters this year, maybe two on 461 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: the offensive line with Jared Wilson alongside Will Campbell and 462 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: then you mentioned Craig Woodson. Let's take a break, we'll 463 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: be back on the other side with our remaining veteran 464 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: and rookie additions back on forties and free agents. DJ, 465 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: you felt bad about doing a bunch of Patriots and round. 466 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: I don't feel bad. They're the team that made all 467 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: the moves this offseason. So I've got one more veteran 468 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 2: addition to talk about here. 469 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: It's Stefon Diggs. 470 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: It's a contract, when you look under the hood, is 471 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 2: more of a one year deal. I think he was 472 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 2: a very good third receiver type, really a slot receiver 473 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: in Houston. So coming off of torn ACL getting back 474 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: on the field rather early in that recovery, earlier than 475 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: people expected to start training camp, what you saw, I 476 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: think as camp went on was what you see a 477 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: lot of times. Yeah, that you can get back on 478 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: the field, but maybe the confidence wasn't there, the ability 479 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: to play at game speed day after day after day. 480 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 2: And so we'll see what he is going to give 481 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: this team early in the season, how he fits in 482 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: to their receiver rotation. He's not the high ceiling guy 483 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: that he was early in his career, but they could 484 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: really use a guy that Drake May trusts and knows 485 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: where he's gonna be on the field. And that's what 486 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: they're counting on Stefan Diggs to do. Because even if 487 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: he's not a true wide receiver one like, who's getting 488 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: the most targets there, it's him, It's de Mario Douglas. 489 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: It would probably be my pick right now, I mean, 490 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: which is crazy pop Douglas as their one receiver. So 491 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: the op opportunity is there for Digs to have a 492 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: really big role and maybe it'll increase as the season 493 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: gets on and he's a little further away from that surgery. 494 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: Well, all those points just go back to my previous 495 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: point that I think if you just look at raw 496 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: talent and where they are right now in their ability levels, 497 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: I think Kyle Williams is their real talented receiver. 498 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: Look at that. I loved I loved hearing that. And 499 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean it's a bad signing. This is just 500 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: how free agency works. No, if they get eight hundred 501 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: yards out of Stefan Diggs in fifty five catches, and 502 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: he's also and you can see it him talking to 503 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: the like a very smart route runner and talking to 504 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: the younger guys in that room and get helping them 505 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: out too, Like you have to overpay to find guys. 506 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: And their roster was so diminished from the drafts that 507 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: they've had recently, and really verble wanting to get rid 508 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: of every guy that Bill Belichick brought in essentially that 509 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: that's what you do in free agency. So I think 510 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: if he's a solid enough player, that's a win. They'd 511 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: obviously like a little more. And then he would you 512 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: would be with the Patriots for more than one year, and. 513 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 3: I do something that could be dated and they can 514 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: easily clip out of this. Sure by the time this 515 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: thing hits the waves. You saw what Elliot Wolf said 516 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: the other day when he said, Hey, we'd be willing to, 517 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 3: you know, part with a high pick for a for 518 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: a star player if that player would become available. A. 519 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: What did you think of that? And then B do 520 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: you think where this roster is right now that would 521 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 3: make sense. 522 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: It depends who it was. I think it was in 523 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 2: the context of Terry McLaurin, who we as we know, 524 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: have since since signed with Washington Commanders. It's a really 525 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: case by case situation, but there aren't many where I 526 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: think it would make sense for this roster. It'd have 527 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: to be for a younger player that you're ready to 528 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: give a huge contract, like I mean, Michael Parsons would come. 529 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: That's what I said, That's what I tweeted, That's what 530 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: I tweeted because when I saw that, when I saw 531 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: that comment, and everybody freaked out, but I was like, well, 532 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 3: I'm just taking it at face value. So if you're 533 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: going to say that, I'm like, well, Okay, Trey Hendrickson, 534 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin, I'm like, well, if you really want to 535 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: make an aggressive move looking at window and talent, like 536 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: I would at least call the Cowboys first. I mean, 537 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 3: they might not take my call, but that would be 538 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: my first call if that was something they were considering. 539 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I think if you have a chance, 540 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: and because they have so much cap space this year, 541 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: Michael Parsons is an all time player that you would 542 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: have to think about that. Brandon Ayuk was another one 543 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: that they were rumored to be talking about before he 544 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: signed that long term deal at some point coming off 545 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: that injury, Like could could that make sense for them? 546 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: If the forty nine ers. I don't think it's crazy. 547 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: I think I think sometimes you guys in the draft 548 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: industrial complex and these NFL teams, they get a little 549 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: too precious about the draft picks and sometimes a bird 550 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: in the hand, is it's worth something here? 551 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: Oh? 552 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: I no, trust me. I'm I use this phrase with 553 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 3: baseball all the time, which is, prospects are fun, parades 554 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 3: are more fun. Like, yeah, that's less. 555 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Snead agrees. You know the Eagles, they're always used to And. 556 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: Then he flipped the script on it and then started 557 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: getting a bunch of. 558 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: Case by case basis, like I said, give me another rookie, 559 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: though you're. 560 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 3: Excited, this is my wild this is my last one. 561 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: So I know Jets fans are going did you forget 562 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: about us at this point in time? I haven't. I'm 563 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: gonna go to their second round. Pick someone who I 564 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: loved watching. I feel a lot of these guys I 565 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: said the same things in terms of that. But Mason 566 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: Taylor cool story, you know, with his dad and going 567 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: to the Jets. To me, I think again, pros pro 568 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: someone who's ready and developed and good to go right now, 569 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: go to my notes. He was my third tight end 570 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: in the draft, behind Tyler Warren and Colson Lovelin. He 571 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: was my twenty ninth overall player. Good size at a 572 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: little over sixty five two hundred and fifty one pounds, 573 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: he ran for six to eight just a big, athletic 574 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: tight end. The first time I kind of stepped on 575 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: my radar was as a freshman guy catches the game 576 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 3: when he touchdown against Bama night game at LSU. Doesn't 577 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: get bigger than that, So that tells you the moments 578 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 3: don't get to this dude at all. Just real, smooth, reliable. 579 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: He's got a nice catch radius. He can catch the 580 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 3: ball low, which is hard for bigger tight ends, which 581 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: is good to see. He can make you miss out 582 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 3: in open spaces. He's functional as a blocker. He's not 583 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: gonna in that sense. Very few of these titands coming 584 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: to the NFL do. But again I thought somebody that 585 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: was polished and just a pro ready to go. 586 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: So you call him a pro, does that mean you 587 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: think he can handle all the responsibilities as a blocker. 588 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: But also just like knowing all the assignments, you hear 589 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 2: this a lot with young tight ends that it's it's 590 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: a lot that they throw out him early, so it's 591 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: tough sometimes for them to make an impact early. 592 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: I think he'll learn very quickly, and I think he's 593 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: a you know, he's a mirror blocker. He's not gonna, 594 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: he's not collapsing the line. He's not you know when 595 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: he's two hundred and seventy pounds. He's not Will Disley. 596 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: That's not his style. You're gonna flex him out, You're 597 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: gonna let him run routes, You're gonna let him win. 598 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 3: But I think of you know, the offense they can run, 599 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: it would make sense to be lean into the RPOs 600 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 3: a little bit. And uh, and this is someone in RPOs. 601 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: You leak him into the flat, you catch him on 602 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: a little you know, a little slant route in the 603 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: middle of the field. Like just to me, that's where 604 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 3: he's going to make his living. 605 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: And he's got open targets there. Really sounds like he 606 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: is going to start or close to it at tight 607 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 2: end play plenty. And they don't really have even a 608 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: second wide receiver. 609 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: That's lots of Wilson. That's why I think he could 610 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 3: slide into that second option. 611 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: He could be that guy. So I'll pick his quarterback 612 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: as my final choice. If you, if you, if you 613 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: sign a starting quarterback in free agency, you make it 614 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: into the five you know, biggest impact list. I thought 615 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: Justin Fields' free agency was fascinating. Number One, that a 616 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: team believed in him enough to give him about a 617 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: twenty million dollar contract, which is right in between real 618 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: starter and high condo. 619 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: It's our condo contract. We're trying to make this stick. 620 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 3: We haven't done it. 621 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: It's the condo contract, but it's it's below like the 622 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: Geno first contract that he had even or you know 623 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold last year with Minnesota. It's even below that, 624 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: but it's above where the Daniel Jones is at and 625 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: they had to make it a little higher. It'll be 626 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: fascinating to look back at the end of the season 627 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: because the Pittsburgh Steelers, what did you think about this? 628 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: That the report was that they gave Justin Fields a 629 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: pretty good contract offer. They didn't want Russell Wilson back, 630 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: even though they had bench Russell Wilson, I mean bench 631 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 2: Justin Fields for Russell Wilson, but actually that they gave 632 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: him a pretty good offer back and that the Jets 633 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: came over the top of it. What did what did 634 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: you think about all that? Because I found that fascinating 635 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: from the Steelers and the Jets perspective. 636 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Jets are sorry. The Steelers kind 637 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: of had a three man race here in terms of 638 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks, and it sounded like they prioritize fields in 639 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, you know, in whichever one of those you 640 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 3: know was was top of their list, I don't know, 641 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 3: but those seemed to be the that was plan A 642 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: was one of those two guys. They both decided to 643 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: go to separate coasts and then that's when they kind 644 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: of pivoted to Aaron Rodgers at that point in time. 645 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: But I think they, you know, they they took a 646 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: look back at it, and they saw so much of 647 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. They felt like, this is that's who he is, 648 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: and that's probably if it's trending anywhere, it's going to 649 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: trend south. Whereas with with Justin saw some good things. 650 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: They probably in hindsight should have stuck with him, but 651 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: I think they also saw, Okay, there's still more growth here, 652 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: Like there's a chance there's more in the tank, and 653 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: we can put better pieces around him. 654 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: The thing I like about the Jets going over the 655 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: top giving him a real contract is at least for 656 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: this year, they're building the offense in part around his strengths. Look, 657 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: they want to be a running team. It matches up 658 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: with what I think is a really good offensive line 659 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: and a really good backfield with Brest Hall and Brailen 660 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: Allen and that might be one A, one B with 661 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: Allen in the one A spot. 662 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: And that's a fun group. And you know, Aaron Glenn wants. 663 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: To run the ball and defense, and Justin Field is 664 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: one of the most dynamic running quarterbacks ever. And I 665 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: think they're really going to give him a chance to 666 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: make this year work. Now, if it doesn't work, then 667 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: they'll move on. But I do like that they're not 668 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: just trying to run their quote unquote offense. It's Tanner 669 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: Kstron from the Lions. They're gonna run an offense. I 670 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: think around Justin Field's strengths give him a chance to 671 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: succeed in this group. 672 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm excited to see how it all comes 673 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 3: together and see what it looks like Justin Fields. I 674 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 3: feel like there's there's still a large fan club out 675 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: there that feels like just hasn't been the right fit, 676 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: hasn't been the right offense, hasn't been the right players 677 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: around him, or the offensive line, or you know, just 678 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: letting him play. 679 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: He is one of those guys kind of like Donald is. 680 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: There is a very good comparison and. 681 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: Donald and You're I included you in the Donald Hive. 682 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're in the field type. I 683 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: feel like you had him pretty highly rated though when he. 684 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: Was I liked fields, he wont to. He was my 685 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: he was my eighth, he was my eighth, eighth overall player. 686 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: It's very good, the five star kid. Explosive arm and legs, 687 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: excellent on the move. He can drive the ball, holds 688 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: the ball a little bit too long. He's late uh 689 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: late movement issues. Defensively changing the scene gave him some trouble. 690 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: Played a little bit of hero ball, but he was 691 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: extremely tough. So it's interesting looking back on that one man. 692 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 3: I had Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance justin fields, 693 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: and Trevor's the only one still on the existing on 694 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 3: his existing team, obviously the only one who got paid big, 695 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: and then there's questions about him that are that are 696 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: still out there. 697 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just a bad year for you to draft 698 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: a quarterback because everyone thought that class was amazing, and 699 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: the entire NFL agreed with you. And if you were 700 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: looking for a quarterback and you had an NFL team, 701 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: they would have taken Zach Wilson. They would have taken 702 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: Trey Lance, they would have taken Mac Jons. 703 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: Some of these guys are on their third, third teams, right. 704 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. 705 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: All of lake hold On, Justin Fields is on his 706 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: third team. Zach Wilson is Jets, Broncos, Dolphins. He's on 707 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: his third team. Trey Lance is Niners, Cowboys, Chargers, He's 708 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: on his third team. That's crazy. 709 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: Well, don't forget the guy who came in second place, 710 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: mac offensive Rookie of the Year that. 711 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: Year, Mac Jones. 712 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, is he on his third one. 713 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: I'll never forget the article in I forget where it 714 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: was in Boston where it was like Mac Jones deserves 715 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: the Rookie of the Year over Jamar Chase. It was 716 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: like Week fifteen kind of fell apart after that, but 717 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: that didn't make So. 718 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: Four of the top five quarterbacks are all on their 719 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: third team, and the guy who's stuck is probably one 720 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: of the more more criticized scrutinized quarterbacks in the NFL. 721 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: Right now, it was the wrong year to need a quarterback. 722 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: It is never the wrong year to listen to Daniel 723 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: Jeremiah's draft takes. 724 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: He nailed them all this year. 725 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: They're all going to be correct on both forties and 726 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: free Agents and move the sticks check out of course, DJ. 727 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: As the season builds up, he's going to be with 728 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: Bucky there. I'm going to be on NFL daily. But 729 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: we're not done here. Forties in free Agents two more 730 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: episodes before the season in your feed On Monday and Tuesday, 731 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: we are going to be doing a draft of the 732 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: teams that we think are most likely to win the 733 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: Super Bowl in the AFC and the NFC. 734 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun. 735 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: We will see then, well, hold on, hold on before 736 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: we go. 737 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I thought that was a good ending. 738 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: I thought that good ending. 739 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: They were playing the music. 740 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 3: I want, I want people to know this is the 741 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: only podcast that you can come to that is led 742 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: and run by a man with the watch of a 743 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: CEO and the shirt of a custodian. There's no one 744 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 3: else that can offer that. We offer it right here 745 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: on Forties and free Agents and we'll see you next time.