1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Well well, well, 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: welcome to the show Ridiculous Historians. As always, thanks for 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: tuning in. It's the end of the year and we 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: are bringing it in with a little bit of a vacation. 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: But we didn't want to leave them hanging, did we 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: know them? No? Never, bet never would we want to 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: leave our beloved Ridiculous Historians hanging. Um. And it turns 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: out that we've pretty recently crossed over that coveted threshold 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: of three episodes where iTunes or Apple podcasts starts to 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: cut things off and you can't get them anymore. Um. 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: So new listeners to the show might not be familiar 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: with these two Christmas classics that we're going to release 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: this week, starting with today's episode about a perfectly preserved, um, 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: let's say, little time capsule of Christmas cheer that was 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: found in antarcticum. Yes. Yeah, so you know these days, 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: fruit cakes are sometimes considered a punchline to the holidays, right. 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: You hear people joking all the time like whoa fruit 18 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: cake and use it as a doorstop? Yeah, there we go. 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: But there's been a lot of actual research into how 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: long a fruitcake can last and remain edible. And today's 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: story is about an extreme version of this, what happens 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: when you take a fruitcake to one of the most 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: inhospitable climates on the planet and you just leave it there. 24 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: I'm excited about revisiting this one with our super producer, 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Casey Pegram as always, because no, I'm gonna have figgy 26 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: pudding for the first time this week. Are you serious? Yeah, 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: I gotta figgy pudding. What even is figgy pudding? Well, 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out, man, I'll text you a photo. 29 00:01:48,880 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: It sounds good. Welcome to the show, Friends and neighbors, 30 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: fellow would be Antarctic explorers. My name is Ben, my 31 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: name is Nol. Ben. Are you a fan of fruitcake? 32 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I am a fan of food history, nol, and I 33 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: am a fan of food mysteries. But fruitcake itself, I 34 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: don't have the same problem with it a lot of 35 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: people have. I'm just not super you know. I don't 36 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: lay awake at night dreaming of it. Oh yeah, do 37 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: you think anyone does? I feel like there's some guy 38 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: in England. I feel like there's one guy in England. 39 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: It has such a storied history. The confection itself, but 40 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: it really has this reputation as just being something you 41 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: could build a fireplace out of. Did you see Coco, 42 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: the new Pixar movie. Think it's talked about this in 43 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: a previous episode. I have not, but I do remember 44 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: the conversation you and I had, particularly about the opening 45 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: act for that film. Yes, the much maligned Frozen themed 46 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: featurette that involved Olaf, the reanimated snowman, wandering around the 47 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: snowy woodland tundra of Aarondel in search of Christmas tradition, 48 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: and one joke that in search of Christmas tradition, Yeah, 49 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: he's basically trying to help out on on Elsa and 50 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: help them find a tradition because they don't have any 51 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: family Christmas traditions. So the whole short is him wandering 52 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: around talking to different people in the town about what 53 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: their Christmas traditions are in song form. But one joke 54 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: that that I thought kind of landed is there's this 55 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: fruitcake that is just indestructible and it it gets burned, 56 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: it gets you know, run over by a sled, it 57 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: even gets taken by a hawk and eventually dumped back 58 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: into the scene. So you know, fruitcake has this reputation 59 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: as being this bulletproof material, and that is very much 60 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: the case with today's story. Yes, absolutely, today's story puts 61 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: a little truth to the stereotype people have about fruitcake. 62 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: Often considered one of the more lowly desserts of the world. 63 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 1: Combination of candied fruit, nuts and spice is often heavy 64 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: with rum and brandy. It turns out, as ridiculous as 65 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: it might sound, there is some sand to the rumor. 66 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: A one hundred and six year old fruitcake, still in 67 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: the original box, was discovered at an outpost in Victoria Land, 68 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: East Antarctica. That's right, and according to the Antarctic Heritage Trust, 69 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: which is a nonprofit based in New Zealand that seeks 70 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: to preserve artifacts and history surrounding Antarctica, and a lot 71 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: of that, as we talked about in our Who Solves 72 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: Murders and and Arctica episode, involves researchers and expeditions. So 73 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: according to the Trust, the cake likely dates back to 74 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: the Cape a Dare based Northern party of Scott's Terra 75 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Nova expedition, which took place between nineteen ten and n 76 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: and that is Robert Falcon Scott. You beat me, that's 77 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: One of my favorite facts of this place is that 78 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: guy's middle name is Falcon. Yes, Captain Robert Falcon Scott, 79 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: a British Royal Navy officer. Uh. Famous. We're leading two 80 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: separate expeditions to the Antarctic area, the Discovery Expedition and 81 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: then the Terra Nova expedition. Uh. He set a couple 82 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: of world records in his time exploring. And luckily Antarctic 83 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: is not a place that is very peopled nor very populated, 84 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: so it's easier for experts to trace back uh this 85 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: fruit cakes provenance. And you're probably asking yourselves, Uh, super 86 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: producer Casey Pegrom Noel been how long can we regularly 87 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: expect a fruit cake to last? The answer is easily 88 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: three decades and still be eaten. And as Noel said, Uh, 89 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: this is you know, a lot of the history of 90 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Antarctic is based in research. This was found in a 91 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: research station and the fruitcake was one of about fifteen 92 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: hundred artifacts discovered in these huts at the Cape Dair Outpost. 93 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: An interesting point of fact about this research station, um, 94 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: is that it was a series of huts and they 95 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: were actually the first ever built on Antarctica, so they 96 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: were historical in and of themselves, even at the time. 97 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: They were built in eight by a man named Carston 98 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: Borsch Grevink, who was a Norwegian explorer and then was 99 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: used for several of Captain Scott's expeditions and also other 100 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: members of his party. And here's how it went down. 101 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: Two months after the expedition had launched their endeavor to 102 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: reach the geographic South Pole, they finally made it. It It 103 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: took him two months, but they made it just at 104 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: the very beginning of nineteen twelve January seventeen. And when 105 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: they got there, they discovered a real real kick in 106 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: the pants for explorers. Yeah, they had been beaten by 107 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: I think it was mere weeks been by a Norwegian expedition. Yeah, 108 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: thirty three days prior to Scott's expedition reaching the pole. Uh, 109 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: an expedition by a Norwegian operative. I don't know what 110 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like he's a spy, uh named rold Ahmundson 111 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: had reached the pole. And as an additional complication, and 112 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: additional and terrible kick in the pants, blizzards deleted the 113 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: return and this delay became permanent. Yeah, it's true they 114 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: did not make it back alive, but they did have 115 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: some pretty lap of luxury as far as Antarctic expeditions 116 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: go moments um prior to that. In these huts that 117 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: we talked about earlier. There's a fantastic image on an 118 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: article from How Stuff Works by Lori L. Dove that 119 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: pictures Scott and his team gathered around a gramophone listening 120 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: to music, puffing on their pipes. Uh. And then I 121 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: found an article from the BBC with another image inside 122 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: where they're gathered around a table with beer and all 123 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: kinds of different foods, And they apparently had access to 124 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: fresh bread, rhubarb pie, and they would make their own 125 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: stews and curries a lot of times out of seal meat. 126 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: That's according to Joseph Coulson Um in the article Scott's 127 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: Antarctic Diet Stewed penguin and Champagne so right, stewed penguin Um. 128 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: Apparently they used penguin blubber to try to cook with, 129 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: but they realized that that was a pretty foul tasting 130 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: cooking oil, so they kind of ditched that. But they 131 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: would have several courses to their meals, including things like 132 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: roast beef, turtle soup, and stewed penguin breast in various 133 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: jellies and crystallized ginger, and they had champagne of flowing, 134 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: so you know, at least when they were trudging to 135 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: their death through the frozen wasteland, they could you know, 136 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: I have some fond memories of them, of hanging out 137 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: and you know, partying down with with penguin meat and champagne. 138 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: Especially it's such a brutal Antarctic climate. It's it's tough 139 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: to fathom how important even the smallest luxuries can become. Uh, 140 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: there's a reason they took fruitcake as well, because it 141 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: has this staying power. And although fruitcake is often a 142 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: punchline in conversations in here in seventeen, as we record this, 143 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: oh at the very end of for where ages past, 144 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: fruitcake was both a reliable food stuff and it was 145 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: itself it seemed to be luxurious. According to an article 146 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: in the Smithsonian by Jesse Rhodes, ancient Romans made something 147 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: that was fruitcake esque, a mishmash of barley, pomegranate, seeds, nuts, 148 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: and raisins, and the descriptions of it all make it 149 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: sound kind of like an energy bar. Quick backstage peak 150 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: here at the ridiculous History Office. We have an embarrassment 151 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: of riches when it comes to energy bars, and we're 152 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: trying different ones. But I gotta say, man, maybe that's 153 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: why I'm off fruitcake. Maybe an energy bar is too close. 154 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: The modern fruitcake can be traced back to the Middle 155 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Ages because dried fruits became more widely available and fruited 156 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: breads entered Western European cuisine. It's not a fig Newton, 157 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: it's fruited cake. Yes, exactly, exactly, uh. And there are 158 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: different regional variations of this, but it makes sense when 159 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: you are thinking from the viewpoint of an expedition, right, 160 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: you want to bring stuff that you can transport easily 161 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: so it doesn't weigh much and it's not going to 162 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: spoil because your only other alternative is going to be catches. 163 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Catch can pursuit of the resources in the area, like 164 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: the penguins. Lizzie Meek, who is the artifacts manager for 165 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: that Antarctic Heritage Trust Um, says in a statement regarding 166 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: the the ancient fruitcake that it was ideal for Antarctic 167 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: conditions because it was high energy, and it's actually still 168 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: a favorite today when people are making these kinds of journeys. 169 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: And it turns out that the company that manufactured this 170 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: fruitcake is a company called Huntley and Palmer's, a British 171 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: um confection maker, and they were very popular and they 172 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: exported their products all over the world, and the company 173 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: itself actually boasts that their products have turned up in 174 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: some of the most unexpected places and that is no joke. Um. 175 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: When this fruitcake was discovered, folks from the trust described 176 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: it as having a very very slight rancid butter smell, 177 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: but other than that it was in pretty good shape. Yes, 178 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: they transported this time capsule fruitcake for lack of a 179 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: better term, to a lab in christ Church, New Zealand. 180 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: Uh the lab that was operated by the Canterbury Museum. 181 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: And the plan is to clean the fruitcakes container, which 182 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: is a tin, so they want to remove the rust 183 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: from that, they want to stabilize it chemically, and they 184 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: want to repair the wax paper covering the cake. And 185 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: then to the weirdest thing is after they restore the fruitcake, 186 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: they're taking it back to the hut where it was found. 187 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: And that's because it is considered an Antarctic Specially Protected area, 188 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: which I'm imagining does this mean they're recreating those conditions 189 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: so that you can go check it out, sort of 190 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: like a moment out of time or like going to 191 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, visit, uh the boyhood home of a president 192 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, that's a great question. So 193 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: especially protected areas start showing up around nineteen sixty four 194 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: as part of several international agreements, and since its inception, UH, 195 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: the a t c M has emphasized the need to 196 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: protect sites or monuments of historic interests. So you're absolutely right, 197 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: that is one of their primary goals, along with you know, 198 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: environmental protection and conservation. So if we as a group, 199 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: you me casey every and listing and a mysterious stranger 200 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: that you'll meet eventually, if all of us high tail 201 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: it to Antarctica and we build something and hopefully we 202 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: don't die, if it is deemed of historical significance, these 203 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: would be the people protecting it exactly. And The New 204 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: York Times spoke to a guy named Matthew Williams who 205 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: manages the Reading Museum, which is where this biscuit maker 206 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: was headquartered. In his headquarters, I believe, and he says 207 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: this modern research has shown that the polar parties daily 208 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: ration of forty calories was eight hundred calories short, and 209 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: their diet was deficient in vitamins as well as energy 210 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: producing elements. So part of their downfall was that they 211 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: just kind of did the math wrong as far as 212 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: what their rations were. And apparently also they focused much 213 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: more on protein, too much on protein, and less on vitamins, minerals, 214 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: and fats, and this is hugely Wharton. I'm really glad 215 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: you brought this up, because there's a thing that can 216 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: occur when you are subsisting off entirely protein, and it's 217 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: something it's called rabbit starvation. That's how I heard of it. 218 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: But I think the more property aim is protein poisoning. 219 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: So it is absolutely possible to feel like you're eating 220 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: an adequate amount of sustenance but slowly undergas. Yeah, slowly 221 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: undergoing terrible, terrible medical consequences, which, by the way, this 222 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: is a dark fact, Noel, But that's one of the 223 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: reasons I think you and I talked about this on 224 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: a different show, that cannibalism survival cannibalism is such a 225 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: bad decision because by the time people finally violate that 226 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: taboo and consume human flesh, they're consuming the flesh of 227 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: someone who was already starving, and they're only really getting protein, 228 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: so they just enter a different stage of starvation. Speaking 229 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: of fantastic say ways, I don't want to stop on 230 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: a cannibalism note. I looked into other old foods and 231 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: I found this great article by Mental Floss, by an 232 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: author named Teresa O'Neill. And folks, if you're a fan 233 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: of our show, then uh, you probably already are aware 234 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: of Mental Floss. We actually hang out with the founders, 235 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: who are super cool Will and Mingeesh, and they have 236 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: a show called Part Time Genius, which we appeared on. 237 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: It's true we talked about Ikea furniture. That's yeah, they 238 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: quizzed us and they were a much more kind, gentle 239 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: quiz master than um than than we're maybe used to. Casey, 240 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: can we get a little foreshadowing music? Just a little there? 241 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: We go? Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. But first we'll 242 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: explore a couple of other examples of ancient foods and 243 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: I want to see what you think of these. So first, wine, right, 244 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: how old can wine be? Isn't it like the older 245 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: the better kind of And that's what people seem to say, 246 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's mishandled, it can turn to vinegar, but 247 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: they could talk about a good year. And some of 248 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: the ones that are like really revered are quite old. Yes, So, 249 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: excavators in Germany found the oldest known wine that is 250 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: still in a liquid state. It dates back to the 251 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: Roman era. They found it in a sarcophagus along a 252 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: bunch of other wine bottles that had dried up, and 253 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: it's been aging for sixteen hundred years. Do you think 254 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: I would get you really really lit or with the 255 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: alcohol kind of diminish over that longer period. Apparently it's 256 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: the ladder and the alcoholic content has gone after that 257 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: long so there's probably a window of time for good wine. 258 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: Burnt British bread was discovered that was five thousand five 259 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: years old, not edible, no, I'm sure. Um Bone soup, 260 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: which does sound like something I would try, was discovered 261 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: having turned green over two thousand, four hundred years of storage. 262 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: It's still contained bones, but they did not eat them. 263 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: This was discovered in China. Bone soup like broth, the 264 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: broth evaporated, so they really just found the bones that 265 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: have been sitting there for a while with a green, 266 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: gelatinous sludge of some kind, yes, yes, uh. And then 267 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: people have also found beef jerky that was buried in Wanly, China. 268 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: I was hoping so man it had. It was two 269 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: thousand years old and it was a black and green 270 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: carbonized mess described by the archaeologist. None of the people 271 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: are trying to eat this, which is I guess I 272 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: understand it. But out of all the old foods that 273 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: you and I found when we're looking into this, the 274 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: fruitcake is unique because again, despite that very slight rancid taste, 275 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: it could still be edible. And one of our questions 276 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: today is what's your opinion of fruit cake? Do you 277 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: think that we have been doing a disservice to this 278 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: noble noble I don't know, to this culinary tradition, you know, 279 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: ben I, I I don't think us spilling any ink over 280 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: fruitcake is going to really change its legacy. I think 281 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty well entrenched. You don't think we're fruitcake influencers. 282 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just I just feel like 283 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's day in court has passed, you know. 284 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: I feel I feel like, you know, the cultural place 285 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: of fruitcake is is pretty pretty solidified, and nothing we 286 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: say or do is going to change that. It's pretty congealed. No, 287 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: this is not however, the end of our show, is it? No, 288 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: it's not. And what is that ominous music? Oh boy, 289 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm getting nervous. This seems like such a good idea 290 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: before it was actually happening. I'm it's time, Jonathan stan 291 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: that's the Quister to you, guys. Yeah, welcome to the 292 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: most cringe worthy segment in all of our podcasts, across 293 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: all of our brands. Gentlemen, where did you even come from? 294 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: Have you actually have been under the table the whole 295 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: time and been You've been kicking me for the last 296 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: twelve minutes. I got restless legs, man, I'm sorry I noticed. 297 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: So here's the thing, gentlemen, I have decided that to 298 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: truly become experts in ridiculous history, I'm going to test 299 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: you on your knowledge of truth versus fiction. I will 300 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: present to you occasionally a scenario, and you must decide, 301 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: within the time span of three minutes, man, whether or 302 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: not the scenario I give you is real or fiction. 303 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: Now you will be able to talk amongst yourselves. You 304 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: may even pose quests towards me the Quister. Should you 305 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: feel that necessary. May the questions be posed in the 306 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: form of questions? They maybe, But I'm glad you brought 307 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: this up, Nol, because I think this is far too simple. 308 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: If I just give you a scenario and you just 309 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: give me an answer, but seek me. But I respect you, Ben, 310 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: so i'd like you know. So, I am going to 311 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: make an arbitrary rule every time I appear on this 312 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: show that will pertain to that and that time only, 313 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: So next time I'm here this rule will be totally different. 314 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: But today the rule is, should you wish to pose 315 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: a question to me, you must preface it with the 316 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: phrase quister, I have a quick query, followed by your 317 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: question quister, I have a quick query quick, and I 318 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: have a quick queer every time you want to ask 319 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: me a question. Now, do you have a timer ready 320 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: for three minutes? We do? We do excellent? I like 321 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: I like that. It's a will that's enormous. It is 322 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: a cartoonishly large time. It takes up an entire wall 323 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: of the studio. I don't know how I missed it. 324 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: It's a grandfather timer. I will I will point to you, 325 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: Ben to start it. But I'm going to read out 326 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: the scenario. First, so that way you will have a 327 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: full three minutes and feel free to answer before the 328 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: three minutes are up. Should you feel confident? And let's alright, 329 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: here is your scenario for this week. Gerald Jerry Scrivener 330 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: not only made history but ate it when he mistakenly 331 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: consumed a ten box filled with one hundred ten year 332 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: old chocolates which were actually meant to be a museum 333 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: piece sponsored by the St. Andrew's Preservation Trust begin the time. Okay, 334 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: so he ate it, he ate it? But quiz quiz 335 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: quiz master, I have a quick query, close enough, ms. 336 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: Whatever did he work at the museum? He did? Okay, 337 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: so he worked at the museum, says him. Yeah, he's 338 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: he's the most unreliable narrator we could possibly have here. Quister, 339 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: I have a quick query. Yes, are the answers that 340 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: you give us true? Yes? Wait? I didn't think that 341 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: out very well, did I? Okay? Um, quister, I have 342 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: a quick query. Yes, could you briefly restate that? Certainly? 343 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: All right? Um? There was this box of chocolates, boxes 344 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: made out of ten t I n Okay. The chocolates 345 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: themselves date from well ten years to the point where 346 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: he ate them. The actual box of chocolates was first 347 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: gifted to someone in nineteen o two, and this museum employee, 348 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Scrivener Gerald, to some mistakenly can assumed the chocolates, 349 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: thinking they were simply chocolates and not realizing they were 350 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: meant to be put upon display. Okay, I would argue 351 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: that Jerry Gerald worked at a museum, he would know 352 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: pretty well whether he was looking at an artifact like 353 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 1: an old, ancient box of chocolates, or if it was 354 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: something to be consumed. So I am leaning towards faults. Okay. 355 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point, because you know, 356 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: you would expect there to be some sort of bar 357 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: for employment in a museum, you would think, and not 358 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: a chocolate bar. Uh. But I'm I'm wondering because of 359 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: the specificity. I'm wondering if it's true. Huh. But Jonathan 360 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: is a very pedantic quiz master. He's going to, you know, 361 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: down to the detail, try to trick us every chance 362 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: he gets. So I I don't know it rings true, 363 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: but it also I really think Jerry Gerald, you know, 364 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: if he was worth his salt as a museum employee, 365 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: would know he was looking at an artifact and not 366 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: a delicious treat for him to consume. Also, and let's 367 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: be honest, Jerry Gerald doesn't sound like the most plausible name. 368 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: Jerry Gerald. Scrivener Gerald is his name? Jerry is what 369 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: is in air quotes? Okay, man, I gotta tell you, 370 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: we've got thirty seconds. No, you didn't follow the rule 371 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: of those you get an electric shock. Sorry about that. 372 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: I I was so excited to just follow along with 373 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: your your amazing journey. Okay. I I feel like it's true. Wow, yeah, 374 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: we're at it in past. I feel like it's false. 375 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: Do you want a deathmatch? Rock paper? Second? One two 376 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: three shoot? One two three shoots? Okay, first with scissor scissor. 377 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: That was the next scissor paper, which means we're going 378 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: with false all right, because you said false enough okay, 379 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: and that's our time. Ah, time is up, gentlemen, Congratulations, 380 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: the answer is false. In fact, the St Andrew's Preservation 381 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: Trust did have a ten year old ten of chocolates. 382 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: They were gifted from a mother to a daughter. After 383 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: the mother had received them as a as a gift. 384 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: Upon King Edwards ascension to the throne, handed them over 385 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: to her daughter. She did the same to her daughter, 386 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: so on and so forth until they gave it to St. 387 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: Andrew's Preservation Trust. It is in a museum, it is 388 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: on display. Uneaten Scrivener was a complete fabrication, all right. Hey, 389 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: I hated that with every being, but I'm I feel 390 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: good about it. That was a lot of fun. I 391 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: we did not think it was going to go down 392 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: to a rock paper scissors death match. I like it 393 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: because it tells me two things. One, you are both 394 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: very clever, and too I'll get you next time. I'll 395 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: be gone, ladies. A gentleman our evil quiz master Jonathan 396 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: Strick lends I, I can't get someone open the door. 397 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: You can't open the door from the side. That's well, 398 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming, and nol I owe 399 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: you a personal thanks because we would have We would 400 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: have gotten that incorrect on our very first time out. 401 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: And coddenly knows what happens when when you get it wrong. 402 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you got an electric shock just for not 403 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: following his sinister rules. And it already had jittery legs. 404 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a rough afternoon for me. I've developed 405 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 1: jittery leg just from this whole thing. It has stressed 406 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: me out, but we hope you guys found it at 407 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: least a little bit enjoyable. It really was like there 408 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: was high anxiety going on there. Yeah, we hope you 409 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Um, this is not the last you have 410 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: heard of our historical quiz centric arch nemesis. Yeah. I 411 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: have a feeling he'll probably materialize again. I'm still here. 412 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: I think he's still here and we are going to 413 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: head out. We hope you have an excellent end of year. 414 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. We do 415 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: not have a my Space. No well I I I 416 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 1: do still floating around out there somewhere you can look at. 417 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: You can look for it. Noel Brown my space dot 418 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: com slash Noel Brown. I was one of the first 419 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: to get like a you know, personalized U r L nice. Yeah, 420 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: yeah I was. I was one of the original verified 421 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: my spacers. In fact, oh whoa hey, I was friends 422 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: with Tom getting to know you. You wouldn't even mention 423 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: that this is kind of a Christmas themed episode, Um, 424 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: holiday theme? How about that? Because fruitcake does hold a 425 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: special place. It's not even Christmas centric. It's just like 426 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: a weird thing your grandmother gives you whatever her religious is. 427 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: And if you were a fan of a fruitcake and 428 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: you have a really amazing fruitcake recipe, uh, send it 429 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: to me and I'll try to make it. And maybe 430 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: we can all get together here in the office and 431 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: give it a shop and wat sail yes, yes, and 432 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: we will lest sale. And for now we're going to 433 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 1: was was sail away? Save me here? Man? What's sail away? 434 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: Heay lo? Wait say lo wait? Send us your free 435 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: kick recipes ridiculous at how stuff works dot com, all 436 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: the social media stuff that Ben mentioned except Pinterest, and 437 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: we hope to see you next time on a new 438 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: episode of Ridiculous History. And happy holidays everyone. For more 439 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, 440 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.