WEBVTT - Why are the ice cream machines at McDonald's "always" broken?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeartRadio and how the tech

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<v Speaker 1>are you so. Over the last couple of years, I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about the concept of right to repair.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I've talked about it this week simply, but

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<v Speaker 1>the right to repair is all about giving individuals the

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<v Speaker 1>right to perform their own maintenance and repair on the

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<v Speaker 1>products that they buy, rather than being forced to go

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<v Speaker 1>through some official channel from the manufacturer itself. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hardware companies will lock down their products in

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<v Speaker 1>ways that make it difficult or sometimes even impossible for

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<v Speaker 1>the average person or independent repair shop to do maintenance

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<v Speaker 1>or repair on their products. A company could use stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like dietary fasteners, for example, that require specialized tools to

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<v Speaker 1>remove them, or the company might not provide any useful

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<v Speaker 1>documentation on how their technology works or what to do

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<v Speaker 1>if something goes wrong. And if you don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>something works, you really don't have a way to fix

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<v Speaker 1>it when it's not working. There are lots of ways

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<v Speaker 1>that a company might lock down a product. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>unusual in the world of vehicles, from automobiles to heavy

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<v Speaker 1>farm equipment, for a company to tie everything into a

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<v Speaker 1>computer system, and that computer system is more or less

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<v Speaker 1>inaccessible unless you have the right equipment and knowledge to

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<v Speaker 1>tap into it. So these are all examples of almost

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<v Speaker 1>turning products into black boxes. And meanwhile you have people

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<v Speaker 1>who say, I want to be able to fix this

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<v Speaker 1>if something goes wrong and not have to bring it

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back to some official store. Now, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of companies will actually tell you the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>they even do this, that they do all this locking

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<v Speaker 1>away stuff is for your own good. Take Apple for example. Traditionally,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple had argued that locking down its systems really keeps

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<v Speaker 1>customers safe because Apple can guarantee a high level of service.

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<v Speaker 1>And if just any Yahoo out there could open up

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<v Speaker 1>an iPhone and make changes, then who knows what evil

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<v Speaker 1>doers would get up to. Maybe you would think that

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking your phone to get your battery swapped out,

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<v Speaker 1>but what's really happening is Joe Schmo of Joe Schmo's

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone and VCR repair is actually installing like geo trackers

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<v Speaker 1>on your device or something. Other companies like e bike companies,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about this this week. They have argued that

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<v Speaker 1>any repairs that are done outside the company's own ecosystem

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<v Speaker 1>could lead to dangerous situations like a fire. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>true that some electric vehicles, you know, stuff like hoverboards

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<v Speaker 1>and even some e bikes have been involved in some fires,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them really catastrophic ones. But these fires typically

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<v Speaker 1>result from poor manufacturing processes and damage to batteries. And

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, you talk about a battery where you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a flaw somewhere that creates a short circuit inside

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<v Speaker 1>the battery itself. It is a pathway through which the

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<v Speaker 1>electrochemical system that can generate electricity has a shortcut. It

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<v Speaker 1>bypasses everything else. This leads to the battery overheating very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly and in some cases exploding into flame. But again

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<v Speaker 1>that's not necessarily because some e bike owner decided they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to replace a battery on their own. More

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<v Speaker 1>often than not, it happens because there's a flaw in

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<v Speaker 1>the actual manufacturing process and the owner had nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it whatsoever. In fact, in yesterday's news episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about how a representative for the lobbying organization

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<v Speaker 1>called People for Bikes, which by the way, represents the

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<v Speaker 1>bike industry. It doesn't represent the bicyclist community anyway. This

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<v Speaker 1>representative couldn't give evidence of this being a situation at all. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>this person said the evidence was quote unquote anecdotal. Does

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<v Speaker 1>this mean that it would be impossible for someone to

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally cause a fire while trying to repair their own

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<v Speaker 1>e bike? No, it would be possible, but it isn't

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<v Speaker 1>something that's actually been documented. So the reason for the

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<v Speaker 1>policy is based upon something that hasn't been proven to

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<v Speaker 1>actually happen. You know, it's like one of those protective measures,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're saying, but if the thing that it's protecting

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<v Speaker 1>against hasn't happened, how is it protecting anyone other than

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<v Speaker 1>your own interests? Anyway. A big reason why companies actually

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<v Speaker 1>do this is that it makes them a lot more money.

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<v Speaker 1>A company like Apple, by controlling the entire ecosystem, can

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<v Speaker 1>make money throughout the whole life cycle of your Apple device.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say it's an iPhone. Well, first, Apple gets

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<v Speaker 1>money when you buy your eye phone. They get money

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<v Speaker 1>if you pay for Apple Care. They also make money

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have Apple Care, and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the phone into an Apple store for repairs,

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<v Speaker 1>or they make money by granting a license to repair

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<v Speaker 1>shops that pay for the privilege of being able to

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<v Speaker 1>work on Apple devices. By controlling the big picture, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>can generate revenue the whole time. There's every touch point

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<v Speaker 1>is a place where Apple makes money. So recently, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>has actually backed off of this a little bit. The

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<v Speaker 1>company has started to offer a self service repair kit,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes some of the tools needed to access the

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<v Speaker 1>innerds of stuff like iPhones, and you can purchase a kit,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can rent one for a week. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're someone who doesn't need to own one of

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<v Speaker 1>these kits, you could just rent it for a week

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<v Speaker 1>for like fifty bucks and then use it to do

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<v Speaker 1>your own repairs. You can also purchase replacement parts from

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<v Speaker 1>Apple and repair manuals Apples providing those as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly cheap, and if you're just working on your

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<v Speaker 1>own device, you might eventually come to the conclusion that

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<v Speaker 1>it would actually be less hassle and less expensive to

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<v Speaker 1>bring your device into Apple anyway. But if you're an

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<v Speaker 1>independent repair shop owner, the program could make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of financial sense anyway. The whole reason that I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 1>this up again is to talk about something that has

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<v Speaker 1>been a long standing issue, one that has led to

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<v Speaker 1>endless jokes and posts and memes and videos of people

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<v Speaker 1>really frustrated as they go through drive through I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the much maligned ice cream machines at the fast

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<v Speaker 1>food chain McDonald's. So the company I fix It, which

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<v Speaker 1>I love, by the way, I fix It, is a

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal resource. If you want to learn how stuff works,

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<v Speaker 1>check out I fix it because they have these detailed

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<v Speaker 1>repair sections on all these different devices and as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>you will learn how those devices work. You have to again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to be able to fix something, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta know how it works in the first place. It

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<v Speaker 1>does get very technical, but it is incredibly detailed. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I fix It has been documenting how to repair all

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<v Speaker 1>types of technology for years, and they recently did a

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<v Speaker 1>piece on the ice cream machines at McDonald's and it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually well worth checking out their YouTube video on the subject.

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<v Speaker 1>It is really fantastic. It's entertaining and informative, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like just like ten minutes long. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>long at all, so it's really worth checking out. So

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<v Speaker 1>some of the stuff I'm going to talk about will

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<v Speaker 1>overlap what they cover in that video, but I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>looking at some other things as well. Now, the issue

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<v Speaker 1>here is that there's this essentially a perception more but

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<v Speaker 1>really based in reality, that the ice cream machines at

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's are quote unquote always broken. So I fix it

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<v Speaker 1>found that this perception has at least some merit to it,

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<v Speaker 1>because at any given time, according to various tools online,

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<v Speaker 1>around a third of McDonald's franchises have an ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>machine that's not currently working, which almost makes it sound

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a conspiracy. So what's going on here? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>to answer that, we have to learn a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about the company that provides those ice cream machines. Once

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<v Speaker 1>upon a time, it was called the Tailor Freezer Corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's just known as the Tailor Company. And way

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<v Speaker 1>back in nineteen twenty six, a man named Charles Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>whom the company describes as a third generation ice cream maker,

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to create a means of making ice cream without

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<v Speaker 1>having to hand crank a device, and to guarantee better

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<v Speaker 1>consistency between ice cream batches. I guess it would benefit

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<v Speaker 1>us to first understand how ice cream actually you know

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<v Speaker 1>happens which involves some physics and some chemistry. So essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to take your ice cream mixture, which typically

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<v Speaker 1>includes ingredients like sugar, milk, and fat, and then any

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<v Speaker 1>other flavorings that you want, and you might be using

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<v Speaker 1>something like heavy cream to provide the fat, and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to freeze this mixture. But the structure of this liquid,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in order to get to crystallize, it actually

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<v Speaker 1>requires a lower freezing point than what we get using

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<v Speaker 1>just ice, and that presents a challenge. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>get a mixture to a cold enough temperature to freeze,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly if you want to make ice cream during the

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<v Speaker 1>dog days of summer, how do you get that mixture

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<v Speaker 1>colder than the temperature of ice. If you've ever used

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<v Speaker 1>an old fashioned ice cream churn, you know, the hand

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<v Speaker 1>cranked kind, you know that you pack the perimeter of

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<v Speaker 1>the churn like there's a gap inside the churn between

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<v Speaker 1>the outer wall and the ice cream chamber, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you pack that with a mixture of ice and salt.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you use salt? What does the salt do well?

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<v Speaker 1>Salt lowers the freezing point for water if you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about pure water, that of course freezes at zero degrees

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<v Speaker 1>celsius or thirty two degrees fahrenheit. When you introduce salt

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<v Speaker 1>to water, it will require a lower temperature for that

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<v Speaker 1>water to freeze. How much lower depends upon the concentration

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<v Speaker 1>of salt. So this is also why people will salt

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<v Speaker 1>roads and walkways either before or during a snow or

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<v Speaker 1>ice storm. It lowers the freezing point. That means the

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<v Speaker 1>ice will actually start to melt at a lower temperature

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<v Speaker 1>than it normally would. So if you're on a winter day,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the high temperature is going to be like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight degrees well fahrenheit. Twenty eight degrees fahrenheit is still

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<v Speaker 1>below the freezing point for water, right, and so typically

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<v Speaker 1>the frozen roads would remain frozen. But if you put

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<v Speaker 1>salt on those roads, it will lower the freezing point

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<v Speaker 1>of water, and maybe you get it down so that

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<v Speaker 1>the freezing point of water would be twenty degrees fahrenheit.

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<v Speaker 1>And since you're high at twenty eight, it means the

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<v Speaker 1>ice will actually start to melt. So that's why we

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<v Speaker 1>add salt to roads in the way times. On a

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<v Speaker 1>molecular level, what's going on is that the salt is

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<v Speaker 1>interfering with the water ability to form the crystalline structure

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<v Speaker 1>of ice. So that means the freezing point has to

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<v Speaker 1>go down in order to get a temperature low enough

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<v Speaker 1>to overcome salt inhibiting the water in this way, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>the concentration of salt will determine exactly how low you

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<v Speaker 1>have to get before the water will freeze. But what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean for our ice cream? Well, let's imagine

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<v Speaker 1>the ice cream maker is an enclosed thermal system. The

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<v Speaker 1>ice and salt mixture is at a lower temperature than

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<v Speaker 1>the ice cream mixture, right Like, let's say we've poured

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<v Speaker 1>the ice cream mixture in, it's more or less at

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<v Speaker 1>room temperature, and the surrounding ice and salt mixture is

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<v Speaker 1>closer to the freezing point for water, so it's closer

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<v Speaker 1>to zero degrees celsius. We know that the laws of

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<v Speaker 1>thermo dynamic state that if you have stuff that is

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<v Speaker 1>of different energy levels, the system will tend toward an equilibrium.

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<v Speaker 1>And that we know that energy has to flow from

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<v Speaker 1>high concentrations to low concentrations. It can't go the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy can't go from low to high. It has to

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<v Speaker 1>go from high to low. So our ice mixture begins

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<v Speaker 1>to melt, so the heat from our ice cream mixture

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<v Speaker 1>starts to transfer to the outer part of the ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream chamber. That heat transfers to the ice and salt mixture,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the ice is absorbing heat and thus the

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<v Speaker 1>temperature of the ice cream mixture is going down. So

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<v Speaker 1>it then is going to need to get cold enough

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<v Speaker 1>to freeze that ice cream mixture. If we were just

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<v Speaker 1>using ice, we wouldn't get there because the temperature we

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<v Speaker 1>would be at would be essentially zero degrees celsius or

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two degrees fahrenheit. It wouldn't be cold enough to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the temperature that would be required to turn

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<v Speaker 1>the ice cream mixture into actual ice cream. But the

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<v Speaker 1>salt we've added has lowered the freezing point for the

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<v Speaker 1>ice ice in the churn. This is important. Let's think

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<v Speaker 1>about the different phases of water in terms of energy, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So ice is water with its low energy point at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage. In this phase, water molecules are in that

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<v Speaker 1>crystalline structure. They pretty much stop moving, so they are

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<v Speaker 1>very low energy. So we can then think of liquid

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<v Speaker 1>water as water that has a medium energy phase. In

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<v Speaker 1>this phase, the water molecules can move around, and they do,

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<v Speaker 1>and water will also take the shape of whatever container

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<v Speaker 1>it's in, So stuff is happening when it's in liquid form.

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<v Speaker 1>If we were to go even warmer and increase the

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<v Speaker 1>energy more, then we would have the water evaporate into gas,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it would be at a very high energy phase.

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<v Speaker 1>Those molecules would be zipping around all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, our ice, the solid water starts to melt,

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<v Speaker 1>but the salt we've added has lowered that freezing point

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<v Speaker 1>to below zero celsius or thirty two fahrenheit. Meanwhile, we

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<v Speaker 1>have this salty water that's inside the churn, and that

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<v Speaker 1>salty water is going to continue to transfer energy to

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<v Speaker 1>the ice because remember the liquid water has a higher

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<v Speaker 1>energy than the solid water does than the ice does,

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<v Speaker 1>So the decreased freezing point means that the liquid water

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<v Speaker 1>will actually keep giving energy to the ice even below

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<v Speaker 1>the normal point for freezing, because you know, as it's

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<v Speaker 1>transferring heat to the ice, the liquid water's temperature continues

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<v Speaker 1>to drop, and now the freezing point is lower, so

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<v Speaker 1>it remains freezing longer and you end up getting this salty,

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<v Speaker 1>icy slurry inside the churn that gets to a much

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<v Speaker 1>lower temperature than the freezing point for water, and thus

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<v Speaker 1>you can have a low enough temperature where the ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream mixture inside the chamber will reach a temperature low

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<v Speaker 1>enough to start to crystallize and become ice cream. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really cool that it works this way just by

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<v Speaker 1>using salt and ice. And I gotta tell you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been so long since I've had basic physics that

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<v Speaker 1>it took me a while to really get my mind

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped around this, because it seems like it seems almost

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<v Speaker 1>counterintuitive in some ways, but as you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you start to realize, oh, it makes sense. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the wrong way, or at least for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not suggesting you thought of it that way, but

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was like there was a little block there. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>these days, a lot of ice cream makers use other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to chill the mixture down low enough for it

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<v Speaker 1>to freeze. And in fact, if you're looking at industrial ones,

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<v Speaker 1>you're typically looking at a device that uses condensers and

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerant to build in a sort of heat exchanger. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same as you would find in a refrigerator or

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<v Speaker 1>an air conditioner. And I've talked about this process a

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<v Speaker 1>lot too, but we will cover that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back from this quick break. Okay, before

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<v Speaker 1>the break, I mentioned a heat exchanger, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you would find in a refrigerator or you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>an industrial freezer, that kind of stuff, including ice cream machines,

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<v Speaker 1>and how do these work well. They also take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of the physics of different phases of a material, in

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<v Speaker 1>this case a refrigerant, a liquid, or a liquid that

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<v Speaker 1>also in some parts of the system is a gas.

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<v Speaker 1>So when a liquid evaporates, that liquid absorbs heat. This

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<v Speaker 1>is why when you have water on your skin and

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to evaporate off your skin, it feels cool

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<v Speaker 1>because the water is absorbing heat from your body as

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<v Speaker 1>part of that evaporation process. When water condenses, then it

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<v Speaker 1>releases heat. So when a gas condenses into a liquid,

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<v Speaker 1>it is releasing heat. When it's a liquid that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a vaporing into a gas, it absorbs heat. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you create a system in which you have a refrigerant

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<v Speaker 1>running through a tube and it evaporates in parts of

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<v Speaker 1>that system, it will absorb heat in that part, and

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<v Speaker 1>if it condenses in another part of the system, it

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<v Speaker 1>will release heat in that part. You can actually transfer

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<v Speaker 1>heat from one part into the outside part. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>how refrigerators and freezers work. Right. You've got essentially some piping,

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<v Speaker 1>a tube, if you will, that runs through a freezer,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this process, the refrigerant in that tube is

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<v Speaker 1>boiling off into a gas and as such is absorbing

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<v Speaker 1>heat through the entire pathway that's inside the freezer. It

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<v Speaker 1>then passes through a condenser. The condenser's job is to

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<v Speaker 1>pressurize this very now warm gas, and it becomes even

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<v Speaker 1>hotter liquid because you've increased the pressure, you've increased the

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<v Speaker 1>boiling point of this gas. It now has condensed into

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<v Speaker 1>a liquid. The liquid you allow to pass through condenser

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<v Speaker 1>coils and as it does so, it releases heat the

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<v Speaker 1>external environment and then eventually it reaches an expansion valve.

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<v Speaker 1>This valve only works in one direction. It allows the

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<v Speaker 1>high pressure liquid to go through this expansion valve and

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<v Speaker 1>then drop into an area of much lower pressure, at

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<v Speaker 1>which point the liquid boils off and thus begins to

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<v Speaker 1>absorb heat. So as it goes through the expansion valve,

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<v Speaker 1>it's moving into the freezer again, right, that's where it's

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<v Speaker 1>pulling the heat from the freezer into this boiled off

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerant and it goes through the system again. So really

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<v Speaker 1>you can think of the expansion valve and the condenser

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<v Speaker 1>as creating two different sections of this system. In one

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<v Speaker 1>section you have low pressure and that's where the refrigerant

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<v Speaker 1>can absorb heat, and then the other section you have

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<v Speaker 1>high pressure and that's where the refrigerant condenses and releases

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<v Speaker 1>heat to the outside environment. So a lot of industrial

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<v Speaker 1>modern ice cream machines use this method, and again it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty simple really when you get down to it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you do have a motor that you have to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with with the condenser, right like, that's an actual motorized

0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.840
<v Speaker 1>part of the system. But otherwise you're using valves and

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<v Speaker 1>pipes to just take advantage of physics in order to

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<v Speaker 1>make a section very cold and to transfer that heat

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<v Speaker 1>to the outside again, same way the air conditioners work.

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<v Speaker 1>So pretty cool anyway, This is just one component obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>of ice cream machines, even the one we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>earlier with the ice and rock salt. Cooling it down

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<v Speaker 1>is just one part of it. Another part of it

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<v Speaker 1>is churning the ice cream. When you churn ice cream,

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<v Speaker 1>you're introducing air into the mixture, into the fat, the milk,

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<v Speaker 1>and the sugar and whatever else may be in it.

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<v Speaker 1>This makes the ice cream fluffier. You wouldn't want just

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<v Speaker 1>a solid block of sweetened cream. It would be very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to eat. You want it to have that consistency

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<v Speaker 1>where it's kind of cloudlike and fluffy. Churning more and

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:11.879
<v Speaker 1>more air into this mixture will make it softer and softer.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are able to do this enough, you

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<v Speaker 1>can make it soft enough so that you can treat

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<v Speaker 1>the ice cream as if it's a semi liquid. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can use you know, pumps and stuff, or even

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<v Speaker 1>just gravity to allow it to flow through pipes or

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<v Speaker 1>a valve or a spigot as it were. Now this

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<v Speaker 1>brings us back to mister Charles Taylor back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, so he files his patent in December nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six. The patent is still available for you to read.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I did read it. I looked at the

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<v Speaker 1>images and everything. It's pretty cool. No pun intended it

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<v Speaker 1>used a compressor and use condenser coils and that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. It did rely on a salted liquid as

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<v Speaker 1>the refrigerant and It used an electric motor to provide

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<v Speaker 1>the churning motion in the freezing chambers, so it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>require a human being to use their actual physical labor

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<v Speaker 1>to churn the ice cream. And his ice cream chamber

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<v Speaker 1>also featured a spout where you could draw the soft

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream out by opening up a valve. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>disagreement in the world of ice cream, which I did

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<v Speaker 1>not realize was a thing, but it is. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>some disagreement as to whether Chuck Taylor, Charlie Taylor, Charles

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I should say, invented soft serve ice cream actually,

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<v Speaker 1>or if someone else did, Whether he invented soft serve

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream or he just made a machine that was

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<v Speaker 1>really good at making it. The end of the line

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<v Speaker 1>is that his device worked, and that's when he moved

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<v Speaker 1>out of becoming an ice cream businessman to a ice

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:58.000
<v Speaker 1>cream maker businessman. He made the equipment that other ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream shops would end up using, and thus was born

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<v Speaker 1>the Taylor Freezer Company. Okay, we're gonna now flash forward

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<v Speaker 1>by three decades. Now. We're up to nineteen fifty six.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the year when the head of the McDonald's Corporation,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Ray Croc, whom you can learn about

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<v Speaker 1>in Other Stuff podcasts. I think Stuff you Should Know

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<v Speaker 1>has done an episode on him. I'm sure like there's

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<v Speaker 1>been stuff I Know. Ben Bullen must have talked about

0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Ray Croc at least once or twice in some of

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.919
<v Speaker 1>his shows. Anyway, Raycroc made a deal with the Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Freezer Company to buy Taylor machines so that his restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>could make milkshakes and that kind of thing, and this

0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:45.959
<v Speaker 1>became a long standing partnership between McDonald's and Taylor. That

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<v Speaker 1>partnership continues to this very day. Now. A few years back,

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's did sign a contract with another ice cream machine

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<v Speaker 1>company called Carpigiani. So technically franchises have two options when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to buying an ice cream machine for their store,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have to buy it from one of those

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 1>two vendors because of this contract. Like you, as a

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>franchise owner, you do own the store, but you still

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>have obligations to the corporate entity of McDonald's and one

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.399
<v Speaker 1>of those is you've got to work with McDonald's suppliers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that includes the suppliers for their equipment. You can't

0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>go outside the restaurant's family to do that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But this still raises a question. Here are these tailor

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<v Speaker 1>you know, freezer machines, these ice cream machines that can

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<v Speaker 1>make all sorts of stuff when they're working, But why

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<v Speaker 1>are they so frequently out of order? Right? Like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a company that traces its history back to nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, What is the problem that causes essentially a

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<v Speaker 1>third of all of the McDonald's franchises in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States to list that their ice cream machine is currently

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<v Speaker 1>you know, off the menu as it were. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>they not working? Well? This comes down to a few

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 1>key factors. One is that proper operation of the tailor

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream machine that you find in McDonald's includes a

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 1>cleaning process that is complicated. To put it lightly, part

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<v Speaker 1>of that process is a four hour cleaning mode. During

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<v Speaker 1>that mode, the machine actually heats up with the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>to sanitize everything, which makes sense, right You're handling a

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:34.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of food items. You don't want anything to potentially

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<v Speaker 1>cause food poisoning or for any contaminated food to cause

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<v Speaker 1>an issue, So obviously cleaning is important and sanitizing makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you are sanitizing it, you can't be using

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<v Speaker 1>it to make ice cream, right. It's heating up and

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<v Speaker 1>the process, like I said, takes four hours to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not the four hours aren't necessary for this process,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say, but that's how long it takes, and

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<v Speaker 1>that means there's four hours of not making ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>per day. Now. Of course, you could just run this

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.959
<v Speaker 1>mode as the McDonald's is closing for the night, and

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>then technically it should just be ready to go by

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>opening of the next day, right, But it is just

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<v Speaker 1>one part of a multi step process. I think there

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>were eleven steps total for cleaning these ice cream machines.

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<v Speaker 1>And if someone goofs up while going through this cleaning process,

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<v Speaker 1>you might end up getting an error code. Now, as

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<v Speaker 1>I fix It discovered, the support documentation for the Tailor

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream machines is let's just say it's somewhat lacking.

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<v Speaker 1>It lacks comprehensibility. It may be difficult for you to

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<v Speaker 1>even find an error code in the manual, and once

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 1>you do, the explanation in the manual may not be

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<v Speaker 1>sufficient for you to be able to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly is wrong and how to fix it. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you do mess something up, you could get an error code,

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>but have no idea of what to do in order

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>to clear the problem. At that point, the solution is

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<v Speaker 1>to call a service person from Taylor and they send

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<v Speaker 1>out a licensed, authorized service person to your your store

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<v Speaker 1>and they do some maintenance and repair on the machine.

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<v Speaker 1>That service has a very high price tag. According to

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>I fix It. For fifteen minutes of service time, it

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<v Speaker 1>costs three hundred and fifteen dollars, not an hour of

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 1>service time. That's just fifteen minutes. If you took an

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>entire hour to have this machine repaired, if it took

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the service person an hour to fix whatever the problem was,

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.160
<v Speaker 1>that would set you back oney two hundred and sixty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's some expensive ice cream, my friend. And again, according

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<v Speaker 1>to ifix it, one quarter of tailor's revenue comes from

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the service calls, So wrap your head around that. A

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>company that makes ice cream machines and other stuff too.

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Admittedly they make grills another equipment. Anyway, twenty five percent

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>of their revenue comes not from their sales, but by

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>sending out folks to fix those machines, which probably not

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>a great selling point. Really, Like, if you are a

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>customer and you find out that the vendor you're considering

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 1>makes one quarter of their revenue by fixing the devices

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:40.959
<v Speaker 1>they sell. That raises the question of, well, how reliable

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>is your product? Because if you're making one quarter of

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>your revenue just from fixing the stuff you make, how

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>often does it break? Because that sounds like it breaks

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot, because these are not cheap machines either. So

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I fix it suggests that perhaps, again this is just

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>an observation, it's not a conclusion, but perhaps the uninformative

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:10.639
<v Speaker 1>technical manuals and the complicated cleaning process could be intentional

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in part as a way to generate service calls. It's

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of like planned obsolescence, you know. That's that concept

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that companies build into their devices a limited shelf life

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 1>or a limited life cycle, so that they will break

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>at a point where someone will have to replace it.

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of related to that that if Taylor's documentation

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<v Speaker 1>were actually more helpful, maybe someone at the McDonald's could

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<v Speaker 1>just hop in and do whatever was needed to clear

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>out the error code, and then the ice cream would

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>be back on the menu and there'd be very little

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 1>downtime for the machine. But it appears that Taylor decided

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>to make it very challenging for anyone other than someone

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>from within their ecosystem to do this kind of stuff.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>That really became are in a few years ago when

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>some hackers built a device using a Raspberry pie board.

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about the Raspberry Pie before. It's essentially a

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>computer on a chip. Super cool. Anyway, this company created

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>a device, and actually the company itself had the same

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>name as the device, Kitch Kytch. This Kitch device could

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>plug into a USB port that's inside the tailor ice

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>cream machine. If you watch that I Fix It video,

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>they'll actually show you where that USB port would be found.

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>And whenever you would have an inevitable error message pop

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>up on this machine, you could plug the Kitch device

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>into the ice cream maker. It would read the error

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>code and it would actually tell you what the problem was,

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know, potentially even how to fix it. So

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>rather than have to thumb through this technical manual and

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe you never even find the error code in there

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>because it's not arranged in a way that makes a

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of sense, you get a readout right away

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>on a connected device and you're able to take action. Now,

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a McDonald's franchise owner could purchase one of these Kitch

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>devices and have the ability to address at least the

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>less serious issues with their ice cream machines, you know,

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>ones that wouldn't require someone to come out and maybe

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>swap out apart or anything like that, and the ice

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>cream machine would have less downtime. That would be great news.

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>But I bet you can already guess what happened next.

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>If you can't, don't worry. After this quick break, I'll

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>be back and I'll explain what happened next. So Kitch

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 1>comes out with this USB device built on a Raspberry

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Pie that will explain what the error codes and these

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:01.320
<v Speaker 1>tailor ice cream machines actually mean and potentially help you

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>fix the problem. But McDonald's corporate was not happy about

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>this because at the corporate level, McDonald's had signed an

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>exclusive service contract with Taylor and this would mean that

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>if they allowed their franchise operators to use a Kitch

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>device and potentially sidestep the service contract, they would be

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>in violation of that contract with Taylor. So the corporate

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>leaders decided to send out a message to all franchises saying, hey,

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>we know this thing exists, this diagnostic tool, but don't

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>go us in it and Essentially, they put the pressure

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>on the different restaurant franchisees who for the most part

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>stopped using the Kitch device because it wasn't worth the

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>frustration and the pressure from corporate and the threats that

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe the franchise would end up getting into

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>real trouble if they didn't just play ball with the

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>service contract stuff. Now, the folks that I Fix it

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>say that the two really big issues with these machines

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>are that one, they will stop working if they overheat, right,

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>which not that unusual for technology. Technology when it gets

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>too hot, often will just stop working, and these ice

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>cream machines are no different. So if they're in high demand,

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>they can overheat, and then what you end up is

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.959
<v Speaker 1>ice cream that never actually solidifies. It just becomes goofy,

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and it can take a while for the machines to

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>cool down enough to work again, so they essentially become offline.

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>The other big issue is the one we've talked about

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>just just recently. This idea about these error codes, paired

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>with a really substandard technical manual, make it difficult, if

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>not impossible, to figure out just what has gone wrong

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>at any given time, so you can't really do anything

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>about it except make a service call request. The I

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>fix It video is great. They even open up a machine,

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>They show all the different components. They explain, you know,

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.719
<v Speaker 1>where some of the issues can happen, explain what some

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>of the switches do. They also talk about a really

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>infuriating legal problem here in the United States that blocks

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I fix It or anyone else from creating a tool

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like the kitch. Why that's technically against the law because

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of the DMCA or Digital Millennial Copyright Act. And maybe

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, how the heck does copyright law get into this. Well,

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the DMCA allows for essentially the owner of intellectual property

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>to create digital locks to protect that property, and it's

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>illegal to try and get around those locks. This, in

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, is a big, old stupid decision that the

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>government made that has terrible consequences, and it's been in

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>place since the nineties. So let me put it another way.

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's imagine a scenario where you've bought yourself a shiny

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>music CD and I get it. You know CDs are

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>not really the popular format, but let's just imagine for

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the sake of argument, you've gone out you bought yourself

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a CD of an album that you've always wanted. Maybe

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it's one that's not available digitally, and you love the

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>music on this CD and you plan to listen to

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it a lot. You're going to even take it around

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>with you and stuff. So you're a little concerned that

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you could be putting through the CD through a lot

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>of wear and tear, and as such, you want to

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>make a backup copy of the contents of that CD

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.240
<v Speaker 1>so that you still have that in case something happens

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>to the CD itself. Now, copyright law in the United

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>States allows you to do this. It is covered under

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>fair use. You can make a copy of material for

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the purposes of backup or archival. That's fine as long

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 1>as you're not distributing it, and you know you're pretty

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.240
<v Speaker 1>much in the clear. Just you can make a copy

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>for your own purposes. But let's say that the company

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>that pressed this music CD included some digital rights management,

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>some DRM stuff on the CD itself, and that is

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>meant to prevent unauthorized copying. But the problem is it

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>actually prevents all copying, even if it otherwise would be legal,

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>because you can't you can't really create a digital system

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>that's like, oh, in this instance, we'll let you make

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a backup copy, but in every other case we're going

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to prevent it from happening. Instead, it's an all or nothing,

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.279
<v Speaker 1>We're going to prevent any kind of copying whatsoever that happens. Right.

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>That's part of what a lot of DRM issues run into. Well.

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Hackers have spent a lot of time making tools that

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>can circumvent different types of DRM, including the kind that

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>was sometimes put on compact discs. So the DMCA has

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>within it rules that say it's against the law to

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:02.439
<v Speaker 1>use or make those kinds of tools or to try

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and get around digital protection in the first place. So

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you have the legal right to back up the material

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that's on that CD, but you do not have the

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>legal right to get around the digital locks that prevent

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 1>you from making the copy. This is kind of like

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>saying everything inside that bank vault belongs to you. However,

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it is illegal for you to open the bank vault,

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to breach it in any way to penetrate the walls.

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>You can't get to the stuff that's inside the vault.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 1>It belongs to you, but you can't get to it.

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So again, in my opinion, this is dumb. It is

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a dumb consequence here that has really hurt consumers, especially

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>just like regular valid consumers who have bought stuff and

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>could not make a backup because there were these preventions

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>in place for a problem that really isn't as big

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>as the companies would have you believe. Anyway, The folks

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that I Fix It plan to appeal to Congress to

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>try and create exemptions to DMCA for the purposes of

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>maintenance and repair, including for industrial equipment like the tailor

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>ice cream machine. So not just that machine. This is

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>an issue that is prevalent throughout the tech sector and

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the industrial sector. It's not just for these ice cream machines.

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>But until Congress makes such an exemption and writes it

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 1>into law, trying to create ways to help folks avoid

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>what some might view as extortionate service practices is technically

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:39.280
<v Speaker 1>against the law. You can't make the tools that bypass

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>those locks, even if it's legal for you to make

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the repairs yourself. The locks you can't get around. I mean,

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you could technically get around them, but legally you're not

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 1>supposed to. It is another one of those weird not

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>quite a catch twenty two. It's not quite that level,

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>but it's real close, and it is infuriating. It's one

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>of those that lets you makes you look at politics

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and bureaucracy and you just say, I'm just gonna go

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.879
<v Speaker 1>live in the woods and I'll take a handcraked ice

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>cream machine with me because I don't have to worry

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>about that one so much. Anyway, I thought that this

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 1>was going to be a pretty fun way to kind

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of explore the right to repair, the issues with things

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 1>like copyright law that make the right to repair that

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>much more complicated, and why it always seems to be

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the case that when you go to Mickey D's and

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>you want yourself an ice cream, you can't get one

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>because the ding dang darn machine is down. Now we understand,

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>or at least we have a better grip on it. Also,

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>make sure you go and check out that I Fix

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>It video. Like I said, it's really good. They talk

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot more about the systems inside the machines. They

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>give a passionate plea for the right to repair and

0:38:56.160 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the need for change in copyright law in the United States.

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>It's well worth your time to watch. I don't have

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>any connection to the I Fix It people, by the way,

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know any of them personally. I've never worked

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>for the company. I just like their stuff. That's it

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>for this episode. I hope you're all well and staying cool.

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Get yourself an ice cream, and I'll talk to you

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>again really soon. Tech Stuff is an iHeartRadio production. For

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