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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys. This he is Talking Cowboys screening live from the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco Streets.

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Speaker 3: Dot Tsidown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Wilker,

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: For one final time this off season, it is time

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Speaker 2: for some Talking Cowboys here on a Tuesday morning from

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Speaker 2: the Star in Frisco in the SWBC studios. Welcome in, everybody,

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Speaker 2: as OTA's are now in the rearview mirror. It is

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Speaker 2: mandatory this week, no more optional. What do mandatory mean? Mandatory?

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Speaker 2: Mini camp?

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Speaker 3: Mandalorian For those that don't caiss, they were reference. That's

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Speaker 3: so Darren Hambrick reference.

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Speaker 2: I didn't catch it, but I liked it. Oh, Darren Hembrick. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So long story, extremely short for those that know,

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Speaker 3: they know, all right. So this was during the par

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Speaker 3: sales era and Darren Hambrick, a former linebacker for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: was not in voluntary many camp and the media asked

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Speaker 3: him about it, and his response was, what do voluntary mean?

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Speaker 2: So any yeah, so anytime? Mandatory voluntary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so anytime this time of the year rolls around,

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Speaker 3: if you happen to be on social media and you see,

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Speaker 3: I guess one of us old heads dropped that reference.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about when we say what do

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Speaker 3: voluntary mean? Shouts out to the brick.

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Speaker 4: Learn something today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cowboys history to start off the final episode

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Speaker 3: before training camp.

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Speaker 2: I learned that boy could drop pat bringing that history knowledge.

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Speaker 5: There we go.

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Speaker 2: How's everybody doing. We've got Isaiah standback, Nick Harris, Patrick, No,

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Speaker 2: C Walker. I'm Kyle Jomans. I'm feeling great, right, feeling good? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I am sure. He sure tells me he feels great. Well.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on making it to the finals again. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that you're feeling pretty good. After the game

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Speaker 2: to win.

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Speaker 6: You know Patrick, yesterday, I think it was midday, he

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Speaker 6: was like, Hey, have I congratulated you on the game

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Speaker 6: to win yet? And I was like, you have it,

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Speaker 6: but Savior congratulatories for four wins?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, we'll take them all.

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Speaker 2: Get I'm excited for you. I'm not excited.

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Speaker 7: You know why I'm not excited because the Seattle Mariners

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Speaker 7: got smacked like Rick James that isact by who.

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Speaker 2: By the freaking Rangers, by the Texas Rangers. Everybody's getting

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Speaker 2: by the range. Don't for that. They don't play t

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Speaker 2: ball against What was that? Oh it was, don't don't

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Speaker 2: feel like it was personal? Definitely personal. Personal. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: person's person. I'm a fan of the Mariners too, so

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for your bad sportsmanship. I worked, I worked

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Speaker 2: for their affiliates. You don't run the score up in

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Speaker 2: professional sports.

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Speaker 6: Kyle, and they put up hooping numbers on you, respectfully.

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Speaker 2: If you don't like it, stop him from doing it exactly.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about running up the score? What

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Speaker 2: about TCU against Arkansas? You see that one twenty to

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Speaker 2: five baseball in Arkansas and then twelve to four yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and then twelve to four yesterday, knock them out of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Home, knock about of the urnam go home.

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Speaker 4: Get out of here.

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Speaker 2: But believe it or not, we've talked a little bit

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Speaker 2: of hockey on this show. By the way, I've got

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Speaker 2: some rally towels for you from Seattle, Thank you, sir. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we talked to basketball, we talked a little bit of baseball,

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Speaker 2: a little sprinkle of each. But this is a football show,

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Speaker 2: and since this is the last time that we are

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Speaker 2: going to be on the air until training camp, I

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Speaker 2: think it's time to dive in to what we've seen

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Speaker 2: in OTAs and some news and notes. Patrick, Yes, sir

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Speaker 2: as we get into the summer break portion of the

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Speaker 2: off season, Yes, sir So.

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Speaker 3: Mandatory Mini Camp begins today at the Star on Frisco.

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Speaker 3: Every single player is expected to be in participation, along

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Speaker 3: with Tony Poalitis Will. Obviously, he's operating on the franchise tag.

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Speaker 3: He signed his franchise tag not long after it was

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Speaker 2: On a long term deal.

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Speaker 3: Quick as Mandatory Mini Camp starts up, Cowboys do a

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Speaker 3: little bit of housekeeping. They release wide receiver Antonio Callaway.

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Speaker 3: Callaway had a running with the law in Florida over

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Speaker 3: a training camp. They had a workout for seven players yesterday,

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Speaker 3: ended up signing Tyron Johnson. Now the jury is out

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Speaker 3: on if it's Tyron or Tyron, but ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: we have.

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Speaker 2: Another tie in the building. So now we have.

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Speaker 3: Tyler, Tyler, Tyron, Tyron or Tyrone whichever the pronunciation for

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Speaker 3: this one is little background on Johnson, undrafted free agent

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Speaker 3: So he's been a Cowboy before, just a different version

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Speaker 3: of it. Final season with ok State he racked up

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Speaker 3: A lot of trader on the tires sub four or

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Speaker 3: players like this and Cooks. They're clearly looking to speed

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Speaker 3: the top off. So Tyron Johnson or Tyron Robertson, I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry Johnson. Yeah, Johnson, he's in the building. But they

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Speaker 3: also worked out some quarterbacks. Jacob Eason was one, Bryce

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Speaker 3: Jerkins was one. Bryce Perkins was one. Two cornerbacks Jordan

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Speaker 3: nik Kill Harry, Jacob Eason will see. But obviously the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Nick Hill Harry, former first round pick, I think

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Speaker 6: that says a lot about Tyron Johnson coming in the

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Speaker 4: Next to him.

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Speaker 6: But Tyron Johnson a quick shout out to South New Orleans.

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Speaker 6: He's a Warren Eastern Eagle. I got a text from

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Speaker 6: a Warren Easton coach yesterday. They're like, hey, if you

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Speaker 6: see Tyron calling T Bill, that's that's his nickname.

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Speaker 4: T Bill's in the house.

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Speaker 2: So it is Tyron Tyron and it is T Bill.

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Speaker 2: So okay, now we've got that squared away, got Tyron

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Speaker 2: this looks like a depth piece for camp. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: This is another body to kind of rotate through in

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Speaker 2: And he does have I mean, he's got twenty three receptions,

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Speaker 3: Well, look at what they quite literally did was swap

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Speaker 3: out speed for speed. Yours speed with Callowayn. You were

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Speaker 3: and then they bring in you know, t Bill, here's

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Speaker 2: I want t Y. You want them back? Are five pow?

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I don't know in a OTA's I

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Speaker 2: won't spect him being a mini camp. He's an event.

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Speaker 7: He'll probably show up halfway through camp if anything, if that,

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Speaker 7: if that, but that's who I want. That's the time

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Speaker 2: Any other ones, but that's the one I'm looking for. Well,

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Speaker 2: and I think you're not alone in that fact. I

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Speaker 2: We've had good chemistry, but this one feels like it's

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Speaker 2: Helpton would only elevate that, it would only help that out.

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Speaker 3: And he's not simply a guy that you would bring

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Speaker 3: on and say, Okay, well, we're mostly bringing him on

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Speaker 3: because he's a mentor in the locker room. No, he

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Speaker 3: a win win there, mister third down, Yeah, third and eighteen.

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Speaker 2: T whoy. So that that's beautiful news.

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Speaker 3: As far as the Cowboys getting mandatory mini camp started

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Speaker 3: speed for speed swap, now not so great news, but

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Speaker 3: not not exactly earth shadowing when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis.

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Speaker 3: We've spoken with Jordan, and I've spoken with Jordan personally

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Speaker 3: over the course of this offseason, and his main thing

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Speaker 3: doing his best to beat out landing on the pup list,

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Speaker 3: the physically unable to perform lists to start training camp.

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Speaker 3: But as Nick had a conversation with Stephen Jones yesterday,

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Speaker 3: the expectation is that when Lewis will infect start out

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Speaker 3: on the pup list. Now that's the expectation right now,

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Speaker 3: still seven plus weeks before training camp starts.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, absolutely, As Steven Jones, he said, it's looking

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Speaker 6: more and more, pretty definitive that he'll start camp on

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I like that you mentioned Eric Scott.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and really quickly, Jay Lou. He's running. He's just

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Speaker 3: I tell you who better grasp this opportunity with both

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Speaker 2: It's got to be Kelvin Joseph.

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Speaker 2: So Kelvin Joseph, the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Didn't like what they saw as a boundary corner in

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Speaker 3: what can you do at Nickel?

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Speaker 2: Because if you can't, if you also it's a turn.

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Speaker 3: If it turns out you can't impress at Nickel, that

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Speaker 2: Because if it's not, what do we talk talking about here?

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Speaker 2: If this training camp does not go well for Kelvin Joseph,

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so I'd be pressed to say yes.

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Speaker 3: So I just have to say he's going into meeting

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Speaker 6: Regardless of position group, There's an argument to be made

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Speaker 6: He has the most important training camp coming in when

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Speaker 2: Who would be close to that I don't even know

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Speaker 3: Because Galamore also doesn't have the off the field issue

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Speaker 2: And it feels like this is it, like this has

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Speaker 2: Look at the last two draft classes. You've had a

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Speaker 2: Deron Blant took Kelvin Joseph's spot and has held on

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Speaker 2: If it happens again, there's no reason that Kelvin Joseph

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Speaker 2: I think you guys response and just thinking about Kevin Joseph.

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Speaker 7: I mean the reality they've they've given him much more

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Speaker 7: They have extended an ample amount of grace towards Kelvin Joseph.

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Speaker 7: And if he does not take advantage of the opportunities

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Speaker 2: He knows. Like again, that's why I said, we used

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Speaker 7: Bruce May's back in the day he used to be

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Speaker 7: going through that. He's the one day he used to

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Speaker 2: with Isaiah Stanbach, Nick Harris Patrick, No c Walker, Chris

435
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Speaker 2: Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomans. All right, let's

436
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Speaker 2: get into some of this contract talk as we take

437
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Speaker 2: some of these phone calls here over the next couple

438
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Speaker 2: of minutes. Jerry Jones talked to the media yesterday and

439
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Speaker 2: he talked about how the Cowboys front office is constantly

440
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Speaker 2: working on contract situations and those of nailing down negotiations

441
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Speaker 2: on headline players like Ceedee lamp Trayvon Diggs, Tony Pollard,

442
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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons, and even Dak Prescott. So, Patrick, when you're

443
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Speaker 2: looking at these contracts in the certain situations at hand,

444
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Speaker 2: which is most likely to get done in this little

445
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Speaker 2: down period that we have ahead of us, that the

446
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 2: Cowboys can maybe get one of these extensions done and

447
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Speaker 2: possibly lock some of these guys up for the future.

448
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Speaker 2: It's a tough one. If not for the.

449
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Speaker 3: Long term deal deadline mid July for Tony Pollard, I

450
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Speaker 3: probably lean probably leaned towards Ceedee Lamb, and just because

451
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Speaker 3: I feel like I know that well, the Cowboys want

452
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Speaker 3: all these guys sign and they want them all on

453
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Speaker 3: long term deals, long term extensions. But I feel like

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Speaker 3: Lamb's deal will probably be the easiest to negotiate from

455
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Speaker 3: the wide receiver market standpoint. Michael's going to end up

456
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Speaker 3: in a blank check situation, but what the structure of

457
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Speaker 3: that contract is going to be a little bit more complex.

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Speaker 2: Digs.

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Speaker 3: They may or may not want to see another year

460
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Speaker 3: of digs, digs with another premo cornerback, just you know,

461
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Speaker 3: being Stefan Gilmore to see what happens there.

462
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Speaker 2: But you already know what you're.

463
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Speaker 3: Getting with Ceedee Lamb. Like Ceedee Lamb's prove it season

464
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Speaker 3: just passed. It was twenty twenty two. They shipped out

465
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Speaker 3: of Mark Cooper and they looked at Cede Lamb and said,

466
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Speaker 3: show us your wide receiver one. And by job, he

467
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Speaker 3: showed you he's wide receiver one. So going into twenty

468
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Speaker 3: twenty three, what more does Ceedee Lamb have to prove nothing. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 3: you know his value yeah nothing. And you know the

470
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Speaker 3: wide receiver what looks what it looks like a top

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Speaker 3: of wide receiver market dollars wise.

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Speaker 2: So I think that that would be my lean.

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Speaker 3: But because there is the deadline for Tony Pollard, and

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones himself said that he's not exactly pressed to

475
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Speaker 3: have any deal done before training cap starts. I know

476
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Speaker 3: Stephen Nick Harris was at Stephen Jones yesterday and Steven

477
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Speaker 3: said he loved to have one, two, three of these

478
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Speaker 3: guys signed before training camp, and Jerry feels the same way.

479
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Speaker 3: But Jerry's just not pressed about it now. Is that

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Speaker 3: a negotiating tactic? Of course it is right, absolutely always

481
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Speaker 3: that being said, to Jerry's point, there's only one hard

482
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Speaker 3: deadline in the bunch, and it's Tony Pollard. So if

483
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Speaker 3: you really want Tony Pollard, and it seems like you do,

484
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Speaker 3: then I think that's the one that would be most

485
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Speaker 3: pressing the other ones. You could go into the season

486
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Speaker 3: and you know, let it play out and see how

487
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Speaker 3: it goes.

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Speaker 6: Would you not want to see the year from Tony Pollard?

489
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Speaker 6: Though on the tag coming off the injury being arb

490
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Speaker 6: I would I would. I think overall everybody would. That's

491
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Speaker 6: just how I think. My hunch tells me that he

492
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Speaker 6: goes into the season on attack. They're comfortable and Trayvon

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Speaker 6: Diggs would be my answer to this question because entering

494
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Speaker 6: he's entering the final.

495
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Speaker 4: Year of his rookie.

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Speaker 2: Nice hands checking across.

497
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Speaker 6: The just the fellas you know Trayvon Diggs, he's going

498
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Speaker 6: into the last year of his rookie deal. You don't

499
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Speaker 6: want that to become a distraction during the season because

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Speaker 6: let's say he's having a phenomenal year, then week eight

501
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Speaker 6: we're talking about contract the rest is going to or

502
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Speaker 6: he's going to get exactaggurate, he's going to I think

503
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Speaker 6: it would be the smartest decision to go out.

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Speaker 2: That's why the execute a agreeance with you, sir.

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Speaker 7: I don't This is no disrespect. I believe that Tony

506
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Speaker 7: Pollard is an approval year.

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Speaker 6: I do.

508
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Speaker 2: I think that makes sense because is going out and

509
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Speaker 2: coming off an injury. There are multiple reasons.

510
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Speaker 7: Yea, there's multiple reasons. But I just feel like they

511
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Speaker 7: don't have to do anything. Obviously.

512
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Speaker 2: I think he will go into the year on attack.

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Speaker 7: That's not disrespect, that's just them saying the running back

514
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Speaker 7: position and how this is kind of trending.

515
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Speaker 2: We kind of need to see what you can do

516
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Speaker 2: by yourself. That's also history.

517
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if their gunshot to throw an.

518
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Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely yeah, because of the previous guy. So so

519
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Speaker 7: that's one issue.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I this is a very it's gonna be very debatable.

521
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Speaker 2: Let's do it. I believe say with your chest, I

522
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Speaker 2: believe that Trayvon Dix is more important to this team

523
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Speaker 2: than Ceede Lamb. Okay why.

524
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Speaker 7: I just think that what he presents in terms of

525
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Speaker 7: his ability to stop the most dangerous weapon on or

526
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Speaker 7: at least some subdue the most dangerous weapon on opposing offenses,

527
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Speaker 7: is more important than the ability of scheming CD Lamb

528
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Speaker 7: up to be able to get the ball.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let me get this straight. You're not saying

530
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Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb or you're not saying Trayvon Dicks is a

531
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Speaker 2: better player than CD, he's more important. You're saying his

532
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Speaker 2: his skill set is more imperative to the structure of

533
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: I can see that argument, which is which is why

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Speaker 7: I mean I'm in wholehearted agreement with you in terms

536
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Speaker 7: of if there was somebody who had to be extended

537
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Speaker 7: prior to camp.

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Speaker 2: It needs to be trading.

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Speaker 3: Well, are we asking who we would go with or

540
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Speaker 3: who we think the team would go with first? Because

541
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Speaker 3: my answer was who I think the team would feel

542
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Speaker 3: more pressed to go with because of the dead Who

543
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Speaker 3: I would go with is the guy that I mocked

544
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Speaker 3: to the Cowboys during that respective of twenty twenty season

545
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Speaker 3: Day one digs Hot Day one that said, I think

546
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Speaker 3: value wise, Trevon Diggs and Ceedee Lamb are the same player,

547
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Speaker 3: just on different sides of the ball. Value Wise, I

548
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 3: think Cede Lamb is as important to the Cowboys offense

549
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Speaker 3: as Treyvon Diggs is to the Cowboys defense. And yes,

550
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Speaker 3: you could there are arguments that say wide receivers grow

551
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Speaker 3: on trees. You could argue that, just like you could

552
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Speaker 3: argue running backs grown trees. You could argue that shut

553
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: down corners don't grow on trees that much. We can

554
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 3: all agree on. But the question when it comes to

555
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 3: making trying to make that argument that wide receivers grow

556
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Speaker 3: on trees, I could lean toward that being true, But

557
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Speaker 3: what I cannot subscribe to is do potential Hall of

558
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: Fame receivers grow on trees when you start having that

559
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Speaker 3: type of conversation, because that's the kind of air that

560
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb justifiably Ceedee Lamb has that kind of trajectory.

561
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's early, but he is correct.

562
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Speaker 3: So when you when you put it in that perspective,

563
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Speaker 3: I think they both have equal a one value on

564
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Speaker 3: both sides of the ball, which makes it a more

565
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: more interesting conversation because at least with Lamb you do

566
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: get the fifth year option. But that's why I said,

567
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: if you don't get the deal done on Diggs one

568
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: hundred percent, you're going to tag.

569
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Speaker 2: I'm worried about the value of Trayvon Diggs and just

570
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: how far apart people can be because I mean, I'm

571
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: sitting here and I agree with you. I think shutdown

572
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: corners in this league are a crucial piece of a

573
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: really good football Teamsolutely Now, Trayvon Diggs has he He's

574
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: shown over the last two years that he can do

575
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 2: multiple things. He's shown that he can be that ball hawk.

576
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Speaker 2: He had eleven interceptions. That doesn't just happen. He is

577
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: a good corner. That happens because he's a good corner,

578
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: not because he got lucky twelve times or whatever, like

579
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 2: ten times out of the eleven he had eleven interceptions.

580
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: It's on the stat sheet. It will never leave the

581
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: stat sheet. The problem with me is what happens outside

582
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: of that. And this year he showed another way of

583
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: elevating his game in becoming a shutdown corner and continuing

584
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: to get better in coverage. Is he there yet to

585
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: me to say that is our corner for for the

586
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Speaker 2: next decade. I don't know. I don't know if I'm there, Yes,

587
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: yes for me to throw a bag. Yes, he's a

588
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: good player. Yes, for he is a really good player.

589
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: But it's the value, though, Where does the value come in?

590
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: Because you always talk about the piece of the pie.

591
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, the value would show itself in a post Digs

592
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: era much like it showed itself in a pre dig.

593
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: See and I don't want to post Digs era. I'm

594
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: not saying get rid of. I'm not saying you're saying.

595
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: I'm saying, as far as sometimes you find out the

596
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: value of a guy when he's no longer around for

597
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: you to enjoy his service. No doubt, the Cowboys have

598
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: suffered for years Predigs trying to figure out who the

599
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: shutdown corner was.

600
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Speaker 2: They had some solid guys here there, but.

601
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Speaker 7: Did they have a dig The reality is both of

602
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 7: these guys are amazing players, that both of these guys

603
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 7: are important. Both of these guys want to be I

604
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 7: would imagine they want to be Cowboys, and the cowboys

605
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 7: want to keep them forever. Okay, let's get that on

606
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 7: the table before Twitter goes absolutely insane. Also, the reality is,

607
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Speaker 7: if I don't have a cd A caliber of a

608
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 7: player of that caliber, I can scheme guys up to

609
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Speaker 7: be open.

610
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Speaker 2: I can scheme, I can outscheme the defense. Right. I'm

611
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: not saying that you're gonna get the same production. Don't don't.

612
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Speaker 2: Don't know where you're about to go.

613
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Speaker 7: Okay, but as a really good OFFICSI coordinator, I can

614
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 7: scheme moving the ball down the field. Defensively, I can't

615
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 7: scheme you being able to shut down your best player.

616
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just you can't hide about.

617
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 7: I can't scheme that you either have the ability to

618
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Speaker 7: subdue one of those guys or you don't. It doesn't

619
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Speaker 7: matter what coverage I call. I can call man all

620
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Speaker 7: day long. Some guys are gonna getrouted. Some guys are

621
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Speaker 7: gonna be in the hip pocket and have a chance.

622
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Speaker 7: I have to pick off guys all day long. I

623
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 7: can't scheme that because I can just go on on

624
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Speaker 7: the other side of the field. Right, So, I think

625
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 7: in terms of value in general, a dominant cornerback has

626
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 7: more weight in this league, in regardless of the Cowboys,

627
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 7: has more weight in this league than a dominant receiver.

628
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Speaker 2: Generally speaking, you're correct. In a vacuum, you're correct.

629
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Speaker 3: But when you're saying dominant corner versus potential Hall of

630
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: Fame receiver, because hit you right, you can scheme the

631
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: guys to matriculate the ball down the field. From a

632
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: wide receiver point, if you don't have a potential Hall

633
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: of Fame talent, you can't teams do it all the time.

634
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: Not every team has a potential Hall of Fame wide receiver.

635
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: That said, what you can't account for when you lose

636
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: that particular player, if you lose that particular player, is

637
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: how opposing defenses react or don't react to that player

638
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: being or not being on the field. If Lamb is

639
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: not on the field, you're not going to see shape

640
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: safeties shaping coverage that way. You're not going to see

641
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: teams try now they deally won't be able to do

642
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: that this year with the brand. However, you've seen what

643
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: happens when you don't have a Cooks, which is why

644
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: you go and get a Cooks. Right when Michael Gallup

645
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: is still trying to work his way back from injury,

646
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 3: opposing defenses they just key in on CD Lamb and

647
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: they say, yeah, we dare the other guys to beat us,

648
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: And then the other guys are struggling to beat you.

649
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: Take CD Lamb out of the equation. Now in that

650
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: situation when you don't have a cook because you're not

651
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: always going to have that Cooks, right, those opposing defenses

652
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Speaker 3: get to play straight up and say, hey, we dare

653
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Speaker 3: any of you guys to beat us past eight y'all agreed.

654
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Speaker 2: I guess I'm coming from an argument of it's much

655
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Speaker 2: harder to find.

656
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Speaker 3: Generally speaking, we're not disagree. Generally speaking, you're one hundred

657
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: percent correct. My extra credit is going to see the

658
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: Lamb simply because I don't feel like he's simply an

659
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Speaker 3: elite wide receiver. I feel like he can have a

660
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: gold jacket on one day. And that's not to say

661
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: Dix can't. But with the points that you're making with

662
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Speaker 3: the Diggs. As much as I love him to death,

663
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: you would like to see him be better in tackling,

664
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Speaker 3: a better run supporter when time comes. So, because there's

665
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: still those developmental points on digs that he needs to

666
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: prove in twenty twenty three versus Ceedee Lamb, he's already

667
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: shown you he doesn't need to prove anything. He just

668
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: needs to continue his consistency and trajectory. That's where I

669
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: say they are both of equal value on both sides

670
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: of the ball. But generally speaking, positionally, you're not wrong.

671
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: I think there's an argument to be made for both sides.

672
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: You look at Seed, we love both sides about that.

673
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: We do look both sides of the ball.

674
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: So this is a great problem to have.

675
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 6: They're if you look at CD and just what he's

676
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 6: able to do simply by his presence in an office

677
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 6: in an offense, he gets more brackets than March Madness,

678
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 6: and that opens up the rest of the entire offense,

679
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 6: and especially with Brandon Cooks and their speed option. Yet

680
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 6: you feel me another option, another option on the other

681
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 6: side of the field that can make this happen. Then

682
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 6: you know that opens up the entire Ell eleven guys

683
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 6: on the field. Look on the defensive side of the ball,

684
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 6: you got Trayvon Dicks. He's pushing six three, just under

685
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 6: two hundred pounds. You said it's tough to find good

686
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 6: corners in this league. It's even tougher to find big,

687
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 6: good corners in this league that can move like Trayvon Dicks.

688
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 6: That's why I Diggs just because his profile, who he

689
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 6: is and what he can bring to a defense is

690
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 6: a little bit more unique than what CD can bring.

691
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 6: But that doesn't mean CD is not unique at all,

692
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 6: you know. I think eventually he will be in that

693
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 6: echelon with Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase.

694
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: I don't think he's there yet.

695
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 6: I think he's just in that second tier, but I

696
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 6: think he can push that first tier, especially with Brandon

697
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 6: Cook's coming in this year, being able to open up

698
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 6: some things for him and get him some even more

699
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 6: opportunities than he had last year.

700
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 4: I think this year is where we kind of see that.

701
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: If you look at his yards per touch CD versus Justin.

702
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: Obviously Justin is number one in the league right now.

703
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that I put CD in tier two

704
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: with Justin in tier one. Is maybe I put CD

705
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: as Tier one B because if you're go and look

706
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: at the numbers, and you will look at the film,

707
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: he's not as far behind.

708
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.

709
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: You're saying that, but for those that think Ceede Lamb is,

710
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: you know, far behind Justin Jefferson, you'd be wrong.

711
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 6: But if you think about it, Justin Jefferson had the

712
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 6: same problem that Cede Lamb had last year, which was

713
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 6: a receiving core that didn't have a ton of help

714
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 6: around him. He kJ Ollisborne a couple of weeks that

715
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 6: helped him quite a bit. Feeling you know he's around

716
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 6: and then you know they're tied in. Situation was kind

717
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 6: of jumbled throughout the year. I think Hawkinson came in

718
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: late and really helped open up the game for Justin Jefferson.

719
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 6: I think he had a couple of two hundred yard

720
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 6: games after that, but he kind of had the same

721
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 6: problem as Lamb, and he was more productive than Lamb.

722
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: That's why I just put him.

723
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: Fair, I think. And also I think you have to

724
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: do it two years in a row for me to

725
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: really put you in a Tier one conversation. You can't

726
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: just flash in the pan and then go away. I

727
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: mean it happens all the time where a receiver has

728
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: a breakout year and then they disappear. Ceedee Lamb has

729
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: done it for a year now. He's his first years

730
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. One. He showed that ability. Now if

731
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: he can do it with a little bit of extra help,

732
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: which sounds great, then yeah, I think he's.

733
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: In that conversation for you here, Son, them both deal

734
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: absolutely if we're looking at it perfect there, that's what happens.

735
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this and I'll go to Isaiah

736
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: first on this. If you're in New York, you're the

737
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: New York Giants, and you're sitting here and you're getting

738
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: ready for Week one and you're getting ready for prime

739
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: time against Dallas Cowboys, who are you more afraid of,

740
00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb or Trayvon Dix? Who, in your being fear

741
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: into you more out of those two guys. Honestly, I'm

742
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: gonna say Trayvon.

743
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 7: Really, I'm gonna say Trayvon because I mean, you take

744
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 7: away the passing who you're throwing the ball to, they're

745
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 7: going to run it.

746
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 2: Who you're gonna throw the ball to, but they're gonna.

747
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 7: Run it, understood, But that's not Trayvon's problem, right, So

748
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 7: who you're gonna it isn't until it is understand But

749
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 7: with their office of coordinators are throwing office a coordinator,

750
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 7: So who are gonna throw the ball to?

751
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. You present a major problem

752
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: now offensively.

753
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can bracket them. I can break a CD.

754
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 7: I can bracken him with But I can have a cornerback.

755
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 7: I can have a linebacker, you know, bump him on

756
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 7: his way out. I have a backside safety, take away

757
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 7: his crossing rest like I can scheme those things up.

758
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: Now. Is it gonna give somebody else opportunities? Obsosolutely? But

759
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: I could.

760
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 7: If I really want to shut down CD, I can

761
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 7: shut down CD. It's just I might have to give

762
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 7: up some other stuff in the process. You can't shut

763
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 7: down Trayvon. You can't shut him down. Now, you could

764
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 7: take advantage of his previous unwillingness to come up and

765
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 7: tackle if you want to run the ball towards him.

766
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 7: With Saquan that's something totally different. But in terms of

767
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 7: passing the you have to know that when Danny Dimes

768
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 7: walks up there, he might be Danny Nickel when he

769
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 7: looks over there and tries to throw the ball at

770
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 7: Chirhi because you're like, dang, I can't do nothing about it.

771
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter what route we have called, He's gonna

772
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 7: be in the hip pocket.

773
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: But now it's is it not a similar situation between

774
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: the two, which goes back to my point about the

775
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: value being equal because Gilmore is in the building now

776
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: all right, and you've seen what Deron blank can do

777
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: as a breakout nickel corner, and he's taking some boundary

778
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: reps at OTA's But defensively, if you're the Giants, you're saying, well,

779
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: you know, we can take away the pass. But the

780
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: Giants are saying, well, we got Sakuon Barkley. And now

781
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 3: if we talking about Tryvon Diggs and as cow so

782
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 3: eloquently put it, he has the ability to make the tackles.

783
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: We've seen him come up and make key tackles in

784
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: the run and potentially save some games. But you've also

785
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: seen some unwillingness there. Now Sakwon Barkley is bareing at you.

786
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: Business decision might come okay, all right, flip to the

787
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: other side of the ball. The Giants secondary you're saying, okay,

788
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: we bracket CD you're going you're going to get smoked.

789
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Cooks.

790
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: If Gallops is back to form the tight ends schoolmaker

791
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: Ferguson hender shot, you're going to get smoke. You're gonna

792
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: give up something else, which means you can't bracket CD,

793
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: which means CD's gonna have his way. So it kind

794
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 3: of goes both ways because I see what you're saying.

795
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: But then keep in mind, if you're not targeting Diggs,

796
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: then you're targeting Gilly. If you're not targeting Gilly, then

797
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: you're talking in bland, So you could what you're saying is,

798
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: well you can bracket dig Well.

799
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 7: No, no, listen, the Cowboys have an amazing problem on

800
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 7: their hands. Yeah, amazing. Opponents have a bigger problem on

801
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 7: their hands. But the Cowboys have they have they have

802
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 7: fixed some of their gaps, some of their holes. And

803
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 7: that's absolutely awesome because now you have taken away the

804
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 7: ability for teams to just simply say, oh, I'm just

805
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 7: gonna go to the other side, I'm just gonna go

806
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 7: to this I'm gonna bracket this guy. Well, they've taken

807
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 7: that ability away, which is what a great front office does. However,

808
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 7: I still believe that the most dangerous player of the

809
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 7: two of those two is.

810
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: I think fact there is Mazzie Smith and Jonathan Hankins.

811
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: If you if you stop Sae Kwon Barkley, you stop

812
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: to run, then the answer becomes you're the New York Giants.

813
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: You're probably more afraid of Trayvon Dicks if you can't.

814
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: If the Cowboys can't stop the run in Sakuon Barkley,

815
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: then they're not so much worried about Diggs because he

816
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: the secondary gets kind of negated by the runoffense.

817
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 2: I think we're getting too far away from this now,

818
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: because you can say the same thing about anything. If oh,

819
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: Ceede Lamb's gonna have more success. If Tony Pollack can

820
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: run the ball, we can do that all day. We

821
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: can go all the way up and down. Point of

822
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: the matter is, both of these guys are excellent players.

823
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: They're both deserving correct of an extension. Yes them both.

824
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: I think more likely you're going to see Cee Lamb

825
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: get done before Trayvon Dicks because the value is more apparent.

826
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: There is still some doubt with Trayvon Dicks, even though

827
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: he does present a problem for teams. I just I

828
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Speaker 2: for one ticket. How about that? All right? Speaking of kicking, Hey,

897
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: how about that transition? Going from soccer yep, straight into

898
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: the kicking situation for the Dallas Cowboys right now? There

899
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: is one player under contract. His name Tristan Viskeno. I

900
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: believe there's like a weird back and forth on like

901
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 2: how to say his name, but I have seen yeah, see,

902
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: I've seen Viskeno is how you say it with Caine,

903
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: c Ai n Capital, But I haven't seen anything else.

904
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go with either one. You want to say, busy, busy,

905
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: whatever it ends up being, you can take it. But

906
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 2: he is the only kicker for the Dallas Cowboys at

907
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Speaker 2: the moment. Are you okay with that, Isaiah Stanback or

908
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: do you want to maybe kick the tires punt intended

909
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: on a couple other players moving into the summer.

910
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 7: Listen, I'm the wrong person to ask for. This is

911
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 7: probably why I'm not the GM. I would I would

912
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Speaker 7: draft it, I would have drafted a kicker. I just

913
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 7: think that the kicker in this age of football is

914
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 7: too important to a team to be waiting on leftovers.

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Speaker 2: That's just my thought process.

916
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 7: I think that you're going to find some guys that

917
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 7: can come try out, and you're going to find some

918
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 7: guys like you could take into camp and have a

919
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 7: nice little competition on very similar to last year. But

920
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 7: I think a kicker is such a confidence swing from

921
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 7: year to year with guys, and I think that's how

922
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 7: the Cowboys are treating it. It isn't There's very few

923
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 7: kickers that are just very dependable every single year, true

924
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 7: and true and through that. They're in a situation now

925
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 7: where they're just like, all right, let's bring in some

926
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Speaker 7: guys that have some good history. Let's take them to

927
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Speaker 7: camp and see who wants it, you know, competing every day,

928
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Speaker 7: and that's who will go with the hot hand and

929
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Speaker 7: thence game seven hundred and seventy seven straight sevens.

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00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear some of the names that

931
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: are out there? You want to hear some of those.

932
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Speaker 2: Let's start with with Brett Maher. He's he's still out there,

933
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: thirty three years old. Money Maher. You probably put him

934
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Speaker 2: up there with what is that probably three three million,

935
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Speaker 2: maybe over two years, something like that, probably as a

936
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Speaker 2: as a contract. His last his market value according to

937
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Speaker 2: spotrack is three years eleven million, so that's what is

938
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Speaker 2: at three point six million a year, So that's where

939
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Speaker 2: he's at at the moment. Then you've got guys like

940
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: Mason Crosby, thirty eight years old recently with Green Bay.

941
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Speaker 2: Ryan suck Up is out there thirty six year old

942
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: out of Tampa Bay, Robbie Gould who's now hit the

943
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: forty mark, but he's still Robbie Gould, Randy Bullock, Ze Gonzalez,

944
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: Julian Diaz, Parker White, Elliott Frye. Any of those names

945
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Speaker 2: peak your interest, Nick.

946
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Mason Crosby for multiple, multiple reasons,

947
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 6: not only the Mike McCarthy ties, but also the Lubbock

948
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Speaker 6: Texas Ties. Another shout out to the eight oh six

949
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Speaker 6: get him back in Texas man really quick on this

950
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 6: conversation though, year in and year out, and this especially

951
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 6: happens about week ten, whenever you know, some some kickers

952
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 6: really start to hit some bad stretches. It blows my

953
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 6: mind that there are not thirty two people on this

954
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Speaker 6: entire planet that can't kick a football.

955
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Speaker 4: Blows my mind.

956
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Speaker 6: And that conversation is coming back right now, you know,

957
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 6: because you have Tristan Discane in the building.

958
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Speaker 4: Obviously there's not a ton of confidence.

959
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 6: That doesn't mean that the coaching staff in the front

960
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 6: office hasn't given him that confidence. You know, whenever it

961
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 6: gets brought up, it's like, hey, Tristan's our guy. Because

962
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 6: he's in the building right now. You know, he's gonna

963
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 6: have just as much of a shot, if not more

964
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Speaker 6: than anybody that we bring in. But still the conversation

965
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Speaker 6: is there to bring somebody in. Even Stephen Jones yesterday

966
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Speaker 6: was like, yes, we're gonna bring a kicker in for competition.

967
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Speaker 6: If it were me and I'm choosing who I would want,

968
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Speaker 6: I would go one Mason Crosby to San Gonzales.

969
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: I'm I'm going with Mason Crosby, Okay, I obvious times

970
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 3: with Mike McCarthy, like Mike Nick Harris pointed out. But also,

971
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: I know some people are kind of concerned because he's

972
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: only two years removed from struggling, right, but he bounced

973
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: back last season. If you look at his numbers versus

974
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: a guy like Ryan suck Up, a guy like Robbie Good.

975
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: They were very comparable, like quite comparable to those other

976
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: two guys who I would consider suck Up loses in

977
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: that three horse race. For me, when you start to

978
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: look at distance, suck Up struggles from distance fifty plus

979
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: yards last year he was two for seven. I think

980
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: Crosby was four out of six from fifty plus yards.

981
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: So while Crosby, Crosby is tapping on that forty year

982
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: old mark, he still has a leg right, so he

983
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: was also accurate as much as he had a leg

984
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: last year. And the Cowboys are in a situation where

985
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: they're still trying to figure out a long term guy.

986
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, they I agree, you had.

987
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: The opportunity to draft a guy you didn't To that point, though,

988
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: I think that we're still feeling the waves of Dan

989
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: Bailey in that Dan Bailey having become such a legendary

990
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 3: kicker for the Cowboys out of the undrafted free agency

991
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: pool that the Cowboys feel like, if we did it once,

992
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: we can do it again. But I subscribe to the

993
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: fact that yes, you did it once, you did it,

994
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: you can do it again. But when you've not successfully

995
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: repeated that after X amount of seasons, at a certain

996
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: point you got to say, Okay, well you know we

997
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: gotta we gotta try something different.

998
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: But they didn't, so they're still looking for a competition here.

999
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: It's Guyano.

1000
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: He acquitted himself well thus far in OTAs, but a

1001
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: my comfortable with him being the only kicker going into camp.

1002
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: The answer is absolutely no. Jerry Jones said the team

1003
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: is likely to add a kicker before training camp. We'll

1004
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: see if they do. But for my money, Mason Crosby.

1005
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, usy. During OTA's the other day when we were

1006
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: charting kicks, he missed two throughout his entire day, he

1007
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: missed two of them. One was from forty four wide

1008
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: left and then the other one was from fifty five,

1009
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: which was his longest attempt of the day. He missed

1010
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 2: it to the right. So he missed only two kicks

1011
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: and they were both from forty plus. Now you look

1012
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: at a guy like Mason Crosby who's been consistent throughout

1013
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: a career. Last year put up some decent numbers. He

1014
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: missed a couple of kicks, but he did so early

1015
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: in the season. He made fifteen of his last sixteen

1016
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: field goal attempts and sixteen of his last eighteen extra

1017
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: point attempts. So put up some pretty good numbers in

1018
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: terms of the kicking situation and putting guys out there.

1019
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: Do you want to entertain the option of maybe another rookie.

1020
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: You saw it last year with Jonathan Garabay. You're bringing

1021
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: in a guy who's inexperienced as opposed to a guy

1022
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: who has experience. Would you like to maybe take a

1023
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: flyer on a guy and that's the guy you bring

1024
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: the training camp. I would bring in.

1025
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 7: I would have three kickers going into training camp. Personally,

1026
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 7: I would have a young guy.

1027
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: You got spots. They only have eighty eight. I mean

1028
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: they got two spots available.

1029
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 7: I would keep busy on there just because he's there

1030
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 7: and right now, I'll bring a young guy in and

1031
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 7: I will bring in one of those bets and let

1032
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 7: him battle it out. I'm all about competition, y'all know that.

1033
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 7: So if you want it, go get it. This is

1034
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 7: his opportunity that's on the table. Who's gonna bring it home.

1035
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: I'd be fine with three kickers, because you ended up

1036
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 3: with three because the two didn't work out for you.

1037
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: Haadre La who and Garrett. They didn't work out, so

1038
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: you went and got Maher. You carried all three of

1039
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: them in, you know, August, until you figured out you

1040
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: wanted to go with Maher. So you got the mid

1041
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: level veteran right now and Busy. You can bring in

1042
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 3: a rookie that's still out there it went undrafted, but

1043
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: then your ultimate insurance policy would be a Crosby or

1044
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: Gould or something like that.

1045
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: I'd be found with it.

1046
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1047
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 6: I like the rookie conversation just because it worked out

1048
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 6: for a couple of teams last year. I think the

1049
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 6: Chargers probably had the most success in bringing in Cameron

1050
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 6: Dicker around week ten, week eleven, and I think he

1051
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 6: only missed one field goal, went like eighteen of nineteen

1052
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 6: down the stretch. So I think there's definitely some some

1053
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 6: very intriguing young options. You also got guys in the USFL.

1054
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 6: So just Nick Rose that's still out there, I think,

1055
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 6: also a former Texas guy.

1056
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, Highland Park Grad.

1057
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 6: Okay, there we go a little Dallas ties there, and

1058
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 6: they've mentioned that, you know, they'd love to look at

1059
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 6: the USFL market. It'd be pretty funny if they brought

1060
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 6: in another special teams guy from the USFL.

1061
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: But what about last year?

1062
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, worked out for turpet just a Pro Bowl, you know,

1063
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 6: nothing crazy. But I think bringing a young guy, bringing

1064
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 6: an old guy.

1065
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that approach. All right, Before

1066
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: we wrap things up on our final off season edition

1067
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: of Talking Cowboys, next time we're on the airs, training camp, guys,

1068
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: it is what I By the way, just for the

1069
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: fans out there, I hate this time of year. This

1070
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: time of year is the worst. I hate sitting around

1071
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: and waiting until training camp. Then training camp makes it

1072
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: outstanding and we have a lot of fun out there

1073
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: and it's great. Stay out of trouble. Yeah, like, I

1074
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 2: hate this time of year. But give me a bold prediction, Isaiah.

1075
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to have any parameters, but it has

1076
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 2: to be about the Dallas Cowboys. What is your bold

1077
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: prediction for something that's going to happen this offseason? Bold

1078
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Speaker 2: this off season, this off season before we're on the

1079
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: air in training camp. Dang it, I don't know. I

1080
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: have to come back around to me. He said.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be Cowboys related, it does have

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Speaker 6: to be well, wait, what were you gonna say?

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Speaker 2: That's not Cowboys?

1084
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Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins is gonna be in the ninc East that

1085
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 6: I almost know if yeah, that's a good one.

1086
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: Not with the Cowboys. It's not gonna be yeah, do

1087
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 2: you have a Cowboys. It's gonna be with a team.

1088
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: I gotta go ahead, and it perfectly segues off what

1089
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: we just talked about. Mason Crosby is in a Cowboys

1090
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Speaker 3: uniform before the flight takes off.

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Speaker 2: Of ox Okay, I would love that. By the way,

1092
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: I think it'd be great to see Crosby in here,

1093
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: reunited with Mike McCarthy and company. He does love his guys.

1094
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: He does. He's done it a couple of times. He's

1095
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: very loyal.

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Speaker 7: I don't have a big splash. Aside from what we

1097
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 7: talked about earlier, probably one of those guys gonna get extended.

1098
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 7: Somebody's gonna get extended.

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Speaker 3: Okay, before put a name out, say with your chest,

1100
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be CD Okay, Okay, both predictions.

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Speaker 2: That is a bold prediction. How many years I tried

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Speaker 2: to put four with an option. They don't like fours

1103
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: five long. That's a long term commitment right there. That

1104
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: is a long salary. They don't like fours. Thankful.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think here.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if this is necessarily as so much

1107
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 6: of a prediction rather than you know what I feel

1108
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 6: like will happen before the season starts. I think Overshown

1109
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 6: is going to be running with the ones.

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Speaker 2: Do you see?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Overshown, you see what happened at our rookie

1113
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: premiere last week? Oh yeah, guys got pipes? Dude? You

1114
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: kidding me? That was awesome. He was singing country music.

1115
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: If you haven't checked it out already, go to my

1116
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: Twitter and find it. Kyle underscore yeomans find it on

1117
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: there because it was a video. It was a wholesome moment.

1118
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: It was an organic moment.

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00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I like that though. Absolutely. He's a dan Quinn guy.

1121
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: That's what I said when he got drafted. He fits

1122
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: the dan Quinn mold, and I think if he can

1123
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Speaker 2: continue to elevate, I think you're right. I think he

1124
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: could maybe sneak his way into it.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I think bold prediction. I'm gonna say the same thing.

1127
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: Put another linebacker. I'm gonna say to mont Clark, start

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00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: really showing up mini camp, and once they put the

1129
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: pads on in training camp, he's going to be our

1130
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: training camp star. How about I love it. I think

1131
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: that that's the bold prediction. I love it that that

1132
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: demon Clark's gonna be all right, guys. I'll see you

1133
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: boys at camp. Yes, sir, we'll see each other before then. Right,

1134
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: it's gonna make me sad. If not all right? Uh

1135
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: Mini camp this week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Be sure to

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00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: keep up to date everything on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

1137
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 2: throughout the off season. It doesn't mean Patrick's not working,

1138
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: doesn't mean Nick's not working. Isaiah might not be working.

1139
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: He's running a business. He's got a couple of things.

1140
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Speaker 2: I'm always working, always working. I'll have some stuff. I'll

1141
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Speaker 2: have some stuff online too. That's one way to end

1142
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Speaker 2: this show too.

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Speaker 4: So it me and you were in the same boat.

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Speaker 2: See you guys in the gym polo season. Baby for

1145
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: Isaiah standback, Nick Harris, Patrick, Noci Walker and Chris Beam.

1146
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Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. We'll see you at

1147
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: training camp in Oxnard come late July. This has been

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Speaker 2: a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: Football Club.