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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, second hour of play and Buck, thanks for

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Speaker 2: being here with us. You know, the air strikes that

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Speaker 2: occurred last night, I was getting text messages from people

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Speaker 2: and they're they're asking me, They're wondering what I think

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Speaker 2: about the possibility here that there could be a major

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Speaker 2: enhancement spreading of the conflict. Because what happened is we

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Speaker 2: struck this was US air strikes against Iranian proxy forces

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Speaker 2: in Syria.

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Speaker 1: See.

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Speaker 2: One thing that's important, we talked about this a little

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Speaker 2: bit earlier in the week, is to see that the

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Speaker 2: Iranian terror tentacles stretch into a whole bunch of countries

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Speaker 2: in the region. Hezbollah in Lebanon, these militia groups in Syria,

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Speaker 2: militia groups as well, and we say militia, it's effectively

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Speaker 2: like a non state actor paramilitaries. I mean, they have

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Speaker 2: very similar in some cases better training and munitions to

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Speaker 2: what you'd get for some of the regional militaries. But

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Speaker 2: you have that in Syria. You obviously have Hamas and

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Speaker 2: the other Palestinian terror groups getting direct aid and training

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Speaker 2: from Iran. The Huthi militia in Yemen gets training from

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Speaker 2: and support from Iran. So these are all of the

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Speaker 2: different ways that Iran has to try to have leverage

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Speaker 2: in the region, and these are the different mechanisms that

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Speaker 2: it has too well to have terrorists attacks occur. So

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Speaker 2: this is why the US struck at Iran already. So

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Speaker 2: we have US air strikes against Well, against Iranian proxies.

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Speaker 2: It starts to get a little messy, but two facilities

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Speaker 2: in eastern Syria that were used by Well. Actually this

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Speaker 2: is directly against Iranian targets, Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and

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Speaker 2: groups that's affiliated with Now, this is because there have

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Speaker 2: been some clay There have been some efforts to hit

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Speaker 2: US personnel with rockets or with fire in Syria and

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Speaker 2: Iraq as we still have a very small footprint, but

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Speaker 2: we have military presence in both of those countries. So

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Speaker 2: this is the US sending a message here about what's

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Speaker 2: US personnel. This is why I thought up to this

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Speaker 2: point it's unlikely that you'll see Iran do anything that

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Speaker 2: will bring the US directly into the conflict, because I

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Speaker 2: think they recognize that we will make them pay a price,

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Speaker 2: a major price here, and we are getting closer and

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Speaker 2: closer to the Israeli the start of this Israeli ground offensive.

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Speaker 2: This clay I wanted to play for a second. This

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Speaker 2: is the Hamas spokesman who is in a BBC interview

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Speaker 2: and asked about Israeli civilians who were killed.

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Speaker 1: Play clib six here.

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Speaker 3: There was no command, no command to kill any civilians.

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Speaker 2: You say this was a military operation, but the result

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Speaker 2: of it was that one hundreds of civilians were killed.

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Speaker 3: Because the area is very wide and there are many

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Speaker 3: people there, and there was clashes and confrontation.

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Speaker 1: It's no confrontation. You invaded houses.

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Speaker 3: What I've been inside, but I can't tell you that

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Speaker 3: we didn't have any intention or decision to kill the civilians.

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Speaker 4: How do you justify killing people as they sleep, you know, families,

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Speaker 4: How do you justify.

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Speaker 3: I want to.

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Speaker 1: I want.

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Speaker 2: The answer, the really answer the question play is that

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Speaker 2: what Hamas did is so grotesque that the only option

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Speaker 2: for a Hamas spokesman who's trying to put out the

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Speaker 2: the propaganda here right, the big lie Gerbels style, The

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Speaker 2: only option for him is to just baldface, lie and

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Speaker 2: then and run.

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Speaker 1: Like actually just leave the room. I'm just like, we

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Speaker 1: didn't do the things that we obviously did. I'm out

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Speaker 2: That's how untenable ethically their position is.

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Speaker 1: That's a little bit alarming to me. So, first of all,

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Speaker 1: everybody remembers the was it Bagdad Bob whatever they called him,

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Speaker 1: the Iraqi ministry spokesperson, who would you know, stand there

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Speaker 1: and say there's no Americans here, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: like they drive by and wave at him in a

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Speaker 1: tank like I mean, I don't know what happened to

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Speaker 1: Bagdad Bob, but he was committed to his craft of propaganda,

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Speaker 1: maybe more so and more ridiculously than almost anyone in

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Speaker 1: the history of foreign relations. But what did they expect

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Speaker 1: Buck when they set down for an interview with the

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Speaker 1: the fourteen hundred innocent Israelis that got killed or the argument.

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Speaker 1: They could have put out a statement, they could have

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Speaker 1: put up a video of him saying it, I just

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Speaker 1: making your argument, then being confronted with the fact that

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Speaker 1: not sure what the intent was there, even from a

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's to put out you know, we

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Speaker 2: hear this and we say, this is the most grotesque lie.

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Speaker 1: What he's saying.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to make it seem like it was a

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Speaker 2: military operation and things happen. Now he's saying that in

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Speaker 2: advance of what will be a military operation by Israel

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Speaker 2: that will take measures and go through considerable effort to

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Speaker 2: limit civilian casualties. But there will be civilian casualties. In fact,

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Speaker 2: actually you had the Pentagon spokesman come out and say

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Speaker 2: this was I was actually somewhat surprised to see Kirby

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Speaker 2: come out and say on television. Look, there are going

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Speaker 2: to be civilians who die in Gaza. But this is

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Speaker 2: the fault of Hamas because they have called upon them

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Speaker 2: this military operation by engaging in their terror attack. But

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Speaker 2: back to the Hamas spokesman. Here this this guy, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's putting out the lie clay because as crazy as

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Speaker 2: it is, there will be people who say, see Hamas

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Speaker 2: was doing a military operation too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now that's insane.

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Speaker 2: But that's why he's showing up and doing this, because

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Speaker 2: there will be people in the Middle East who will

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Speaker 2: believe what they want to believe. Even the most up

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Speaker 2: too scrotesque lie and they just want a little bit

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Speaker 2: of support, a little bit of well, there are different narratives.

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Speaker 2: We need to learn more Clay about this. That kind

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Speaker 2: of mentality provides some kind of mental space for people

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Speaker 2: to continue to act like Hamas is.

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Speaker 1: Not just as bad as isis. And to your point,

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Speaker 1: they'll slice and dice probably this interview up and share

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Speaker 1: it on social media, which you and I were texting

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Speaker 1: about before the show started today. So much I can't

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Speaker 1: get past the fact that if you are under the

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Speaker 1: age of thirty five, you basically are evenly divided fifty

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Speaker 1: to fifty on whether the massacre of innocent Jewish people

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Speaker 1: by Hamas was justified or not. And I think many

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Speaker 1: of you out there who are over the age of

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Speaker 1: thirty five, as you get older, moral clarity becomes more established.

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Speaker 1: I mean, ninety one percent of that Harvard Harris poll

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Speaker 1: of people over the age of sixty five said this

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Speaker 1: was indefensible. So how is it such that so many

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Speaker 1: people under the age of thirty five buck, I would venture,

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Speaker 1: and again I'm using quotation marks here, that people under

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Speaker 1: the age of thirty five are of higher education status

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Speaker 1: than people over the age of sixty five. That is,

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Speaker 1: far more people under the age of thirty five have

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Speaker 1: gone to college, have gone on and gotten degrees than

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Speaker 1: they would have over the age of sixty five. That's

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Speaker 1: the general trend lines of American life. What does it

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Speaker 1: say if the more educated people are actually the least

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Speaker 1: informed about what evil represents, that's scary.

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Speaker 2: Well, you look at the history of different revolutions that

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Speaker 2: went bad, and there's often a component of the intellectual

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Speaker 2: class turning on the society. And I mean this is

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Speaker 2: true in the French Revolution, it's true in the within

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Speaker 2: the Soviet Revolution, although even there's other complexities to talk

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Speaker 2: about there. But oftentimes you'll have people who they'll be

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Speaker 2: a core, it's not all of the intellectual class, but

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Speaker 2: they'll be a core of intellectuals who somehow have convinced

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Speaker 2: themselves of an ideology that is so right that everything

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Speaker 1: And I think you've.

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Speaker 2: Seen that at some level with the situation of Hamas

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Speaker 2: and Israel and what's going on right now. Newt Gingrich

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Speaker 2: was throwing some punches on this one. Here he is

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Speaker 2: this has cut five where he's saying that this is

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Speaker 2: really now infiltrated.

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Speaker 1: It's going beyond you.

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Speaker 2: I'd been saying there's the Democrat elite or the Democrat leadership,

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Speaker 2: and then there's the left wing vanguard, if you will.

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Speaker 2: New to saying, you know, anti Semitism is really actually

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Speaker 2: it has infiltrated the heart of the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 1: Play five.

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Speaker 4: I think it's easy to underestimate the depth of the

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Speaker 4: anti Israeli and anti Semitic attitudes that are now at

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Speaker 4: the heart of the Democratic Party and are at the

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Speaker 4: heart of the Biden administration. Supposedly one hundred people in

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Speaker 4: the White House went to a meeting to deal with

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Speaker 4: their anxieties about what's happening. Not to deal with anger

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Speaker 4: about forty babies being killed, babies being beheaded, Not to

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Speaker 4: deal with anger about women being raped and dragged through

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Speaker 4: the streets dead with people spitting on them. Not to

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Speaker 4: deal with anger about fourteen hundred innocent people being slaughtered.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, they're anxieties.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Newt is seeing this for what it is, Clay,

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Speaker 2: What what is the the anxiety about what may happen

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Speaker 2: in Palestine? And and can I also you know, point

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Speaker 2: this deep affinity for the Palestinians. You know, where are

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Speaker 2: they during the Syrian Civil War when half a million

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Speaker 2: you know, Muslim on Muslim violence basically like, where are

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Speaker 2: they during that They're diet.

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Speaker 1: Of course, because I've I've long thought that, and we

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Speaker 1: talked about this to start the show, Buck, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's such an interesting point for everybody to contemplate.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the revolutions. What happens in almost every revolution

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Speaker 1: Eventually the revolutionaries turn on each other and there becomes

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Speaker 1: a pure test over who are the best possible version

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Speaker 1: of the revolution and French Revolution you mentioned again history

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Speaker 1: nerding out here. Rose Pierre ends up getting guillotined, right,

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Speaker 1: one of the foremost leaders of the revolution itself, as

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Speaker 1: a part of the purity test. The revolution turns on

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Speaker 1: itself because they ran out of nobles that they could

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Speaker 2: The guy who ran the Committee for Public Safety that

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Speaker 2: was ordering people to get their head chopped off got

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Speaker 2: his head chopped off.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough spot to be in. It's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: and We started off the show earlier last hour talking

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Speaker 1: We finished off the last hour talking about sort of

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Speaker 1: that was so indefensible that if you'll remember, Debbie Wasserman Schaltz,

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Speaker 2: And yet I said, this is what was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: If somebody wants to let you get away basically with it,

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of what what's happening here. I knew this.

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Speaker 2: When people say, oh, it's gonna be a felony and

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Speaker 2: Be the case, but he is getting Uh. I mean,

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Speaker 1: This is basically nothing.

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Speaker 2: But that is the controversy is over, except for the

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Speaker 1: Play clip seven. You got a very.

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Speaker 5: Warm welcome from the DNC. They said you were an

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Speaker 1: We've been here before.

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Speaker 5: This isn't the same exact maga extremism that the American

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Speaker 5: I thought that was the warmest welcome you could ever

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Speaker 6: Look, they don't they don't know me. A lot of these

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Speaker 1: We'll all see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's anybody who's saying this is

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Speaker 1: Be true to your point. To extend your analogy, Buck,

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Speaker 1: The challenge is by what July Congress going to go home,

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Speaker 2: And here's where this is why the most useful thing

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Speaker 2: You gotta see how the Senate goes, right, But there'll

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Speaker 2: Let's say a spending bill is what a few weeks

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Speaker 2: then we've got a problem. Yeah, because the most important

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Speaker 2: Republican majority. So people that think that this is going

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Speaker 2: to be where we really fight, well, that all depends

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Speaker 2: That all depends do you want to win the next

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Speaker 2: mean congressional elections, do you want to win a majority?

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Speaker 1: There are eighteen districts that Joe Biden won the twenty

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Speaker 1: Republican congressmen in And this is why I always say,

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Speaker 1: the only thing I have to worry about to my

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Speaker 1: Republican primary, I can be a congressman for the rest

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Speaker 1: of my life. I have a really strong Republican district.

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Speaker 1: As long as I win the primary, I'm gonna be fine. Well,

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Speaker 1: how do you win the primary? Typically by being more

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Speaker 1: a general rule, But for those eighteen people that are

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Speaker 1: you can't have a majority in the House without having

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Speaker 1: some of those people. Right in the swing district, there

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Speaker 1: want to call them, right people who have to appeal

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Speaker 1: And so I think one of the big challenges that

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Speaker 1: we keep the House buck. I'm actually somewhat confident about

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Speaker 1: the Senate. We're gonna flip West Virginia. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Joe Manchin's even gonna run, but he's gonna announce sometime

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Speaker 1: Jim Justice, it appears, is in really strong shape there,

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Speaker 1: the current governor. I think in Ohio got three really

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Speaker 1: good candidates running in the Republican primary. I think all

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Speaker 1: three of those guys, whoever wins, is going to win

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Speaker 1: in Ohio. And I feel increasingly good about Montana. That

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Speaker 1: even without having to consider other more difficult state terrain

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Speaker 1: that would flip it. At fifty one forty nine, Montana

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Speaker 1: all three of those places.

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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson also very aware of the cognitive decline. This

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Speaker 2: was all on an interview with our friend Sean Hannity

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Speaker 2: last night. By the way, just a credit to Sean

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Speaker 2: in this really interesting sit down. Here's Mike. This is

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Speaker 2: cut nine where he's talking about Biden and well, what

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Speaker 2: we can all see play.

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Speaker 5: Do you see in Joe Biden a cognitive decline? And

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Speaker 5: if so, is that a danger to the country.

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Speaker 6: I do, I think most of us do. That's reality.

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Speaker 6: This is not a personal slight to him. It has

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Speaker 6: to do with age and acumen, and everyone's different. Everyone

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Speaker 6: ages differently. Clearly, if you look at the tape of

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden making an argument in the Senate Judiciary Committee

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Speaker 6: a few years ago, and you see a speech that

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Speaker 6: he delivers, now there's a difference.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's not a personal insult to him. It's

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Speaker 6: just reality. And this is what's concerning to us, is

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Speaker 6: that we cannot project weakness of any kind on the

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Speaker 6: world stage.

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 6: This is a dangerous time for all the things going

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Speaker 6: on around the world. The world is a tender box

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Speaker 6: we have to project strength.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden definitely does not project strength or wisdom or capability.

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Speaker 2: And when you start to think about the possibility of

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Speaker 2: US air strikes that have taken place just in the

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Speaker 2: last twenty four hours. Clay, the title commander in chief

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Speaker 2: starts to it starts to hit a little different when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is why I think you mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 1: If I were betting right now, and you know usual

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Speaker 1: If I were predicting right now, if the election were today,

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Speaker 1: would win and is likely to I think Trump's going

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Speaker 1: to go grow stronger if he's the nominee. And people

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Speaker 1: out there, can you know that the Santus people can

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Speaker 1: say you're crazy, Clay, the you know, the Nicky Haley people,

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Speaker 1: the vivek I understand half the audience is Trump. Half

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Speaker 1: the audience is not. I should say Trump or whomever

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Speaker 1: the nominee is, maybe because Biden's only gonna get worse. Fetterman,

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Speaker 1: to his credit, right, Buck, Fetterman's been doing great on Israel.

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Speaker 1: We call it like we see it. He's fifty three.

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Speaker 1: I think a fifty three year old who has a

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Speaker 1: the health issue is not directly connected to age. Biden's

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Speaker 1: Him after eight years. I mean heah, he aged a lot.

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Speaker 2: That is that Trump does not look any different now

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Speaker 1: out with us. Buck. I know there's probably a lot

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Speaker 1: article a lot of different things. We've talked about DeSantis v. Trump,

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Speaker 1: this to be on the front page of the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal. Baked beans. Baked beans. Believe Buck that they

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Speaker 1: are the most underrated food in America, and they are

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Speaker 1: now going after an audience to eat more baked beans.

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Speaker 1: And I actually read the article on the front page

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Speaker 1: and then as I was reading it, I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I have noticed that there's way more

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Speaker 1: it brings to mind, I think one of the most

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Speaker 1: underrated things that I could eat all the time chips

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Speaker 1: and saucea you know, salsa outs their outsells ketchup now

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Speaker 1: in America? Do you know that like as a as

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Speaker 1: a condiment? I believe it. And Modelo is a very

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Speaker 1: stop eating chips and salsa love them. Almost impossible to

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Speaker 1: stop eating chips and dip. Provocative thesis for you, buck,

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Speaker 1: Would you agree, by the way, with both of those things,

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Speaker 1: Like if you got like a nice French onion dip

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Speaker 1: or any sour.

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Speaker 2: Cream taste dip because you call it a dip and

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Speaker 2: you don't really realize you're either eating cream cheese or

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Speaker 2: sour cream and you're eating it like it's salsa.

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Speaker 1: But it's not. Yes, all right, So chips that you

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Speaker 1: skip that you dip into baked beans maybe the most

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Speaker 1: underutilized move out there, because everybody does salsa, everybody does

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Speaker 1: the French onion dips or any other kind of things.

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Speaker 1: I actually agree with the Wall Street Journals front page.

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Speaker 1: I think baked beans may be the most underrated food

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Speaker 1: that once you start mixing with other things. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about just eating beans by themselves, it's actually kind

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Speaker 2: Well I'll tell you this. Well, I was just in Scotland,

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Speaker 2: as you know. It took a little vacation there with Carrie,

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: They eat baked beans with breakfast all the time, and

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Speaker 2: it's weird it. Oh yeah, baked beans. That's a big

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Speaker 2: thing in the UK for breakfast. And it seems weird

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Speaker 2: actually sign on to the thesis that baked beans are

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Speaker 2: not getting their due because remember, you can put lots

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Speaker 2: of things that you can put like bacon bits in there,

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Speaker 2: and you know, pork, and you know, chunks of other

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Speaker 2: things or whatever. So you agree with the front page

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Speaker 2: of the Wall Street Journal THESS I do baked beans.

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Speaker 2: They're dense, so you know, they're calorically dense. They have

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Speaker 2: some antioxidants in them. I think that we should start

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Speaker 2: to I'll tell you this whenever someone makes it. Whenever

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Speaker 2: I was going on, my mom would make a can

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Speaker 2: of baked beans for some reason. Usually it was to

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Speaker 2: go along with something else. You know, maybe we're having

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Speaker 2: like a chili or something tastes quite good. You know,

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Speaker 2: Brussels sprouts. People used to make fun of them, and

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Speaker 2: then they became trendy. I think you might be at

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Speaker 2: the we might be at the beginning of big baked

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Speaker 2: beans right now.

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Speaker 1: A bean renaissance. You know, this is the the poor

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Speaker 1: southern family food. I remember this being a staple of

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Speaker 1: my grandparents. They would make beans and then you would

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Speaker 1: mash it all together with cornbread. And this thing was

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Speaker 1: I I don't know the percentage of time that this

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Speaker 1: would be a meal, but it felt like every time

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Speaker 1: I was at my grandparents' house. Beans lima beans in

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Speaker 1: that particular situation, and and corn bread.

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Speaker 2: You ever hear that buck that it was a Southern staple. Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm super super anything they eat in the South a

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Speaker 2: lot they eat because of taste.

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Speaker 1: Word, So I'm into it. Last that