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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast presented by FanDuel. I'm

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Speaker 3: your host, Chris Raybond, and today's episode is going to

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Speaker 3: cover NFL draft grades for the NFC.

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Speaker 1: We will go through every team in the.

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Speaker 3: Conference, evaluate their draft picks, and hand out a letter

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Speaker 3: grade at the end. And I'll be doing this with

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Speaker 3: the help of our old friend Matthew Friedman, who already

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Speaker 3: broke down the AFC very l quiny for us. He's

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Speaker 3: Oracle on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Matt, thanks for coming back on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having men. Always good to catch up.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, all right, let's jump right into this. Because

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Speaker 3: you know, I thought the the We're gonna start with

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Speaker 3: the NFC East, and I thought the Philadelphia Eagles. You know,

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Speaker 3: it seemed like a situation where you know, they went

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Speaker 1: What'd you think of the Eagles draft class for twenty

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Speaker 4: As you know, someone who's an analyst, I was not

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Speaker 4: Like I was giddy. I like seeing NFL teams do

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Speaker 4: intelligent things. As someone who roots for the Cowboys, I

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Speaker 4: hated it because I feel like they're just going to

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Speaker 4: But man, it was absolutely amazing. A plus for what

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Speaker 4: the Eagles did. You know, Jalen Carter defensive tackle out

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Speaker 4: And then you know they are also getting players from

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Speaker 4: twenty percent of the roster. It's unbelievable. But getting Jalen

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Speaker 4: you know, conceivably anywhere from like number one to number five,

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Speaker 4: you know, fantastic value there, and getting Nolan Smith right

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Speaker 4: it's just like what is the NFL doing? All right?

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Speaker 4: And then after that getting Alabama offensive tacker tackle Tyler

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Speaker 4: got some inside outside versatility. Maybe he doesn't play as

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Speaker 4: After that, getting Illinois safety Sydney Brown, you know, a

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Speaker 4: Keeley Ringo. You know, so the number one cornerback on

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Speaker 4: who's got fantastic athleticism, great length. They got him in

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Speaker 4: Not so much because the Eagles did any one thing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love it too because they already had

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I really liked what they did as well.

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Speaker 3: You know, they go Deontay Banks the corner in round one.

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Speaker 4: think it was a solid draft. You know, they let

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Speaker 1: So I think they.

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Speaker 4: Were very solid across the board. Nothing that they did

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of my thinking as well.

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Speaker 3: You know that they're they're kind of had a schedule

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Speaker 3: you know, pretty solid draft overall for the g men.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk Washington here. You know, Washington, they've been kind

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Speaker 1: What did you think of the Commanders?

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Speaker 4: You know, when I was doing my original grades, I

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Speaker 1: Down a little bit. I'm feeling a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit more like D plus here. And you know the

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Speaker 4: I'm just skeptical in general of you know, a cornerback

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Speaker 1: And they had the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think this is another one that

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Speaker 3: My thing with Levis though, is I actually don't think

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Speaker 3: So I'm not going to knock him for taking him,

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Speaker 3: you know, seventeen picks higher than he ultimately went, you know,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't even the best wide receiver on the boarder.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of a reach, And I think that

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Speaker 3: So I mean I do think, you know, ultimately, yeah,

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Speaker 3: does Brissette and Howell kind of limit your ceiling?

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Speaker 3: But Brissett was I mean pretty good last year. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think he could be a fine bridge quarterback. I

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Speaker 3: don't think they were gonna like I don't think Will

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Speaker 3: Levis was going to change the course of the franchises.

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Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying. So I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: knock him that much. They did fill some needs. This

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Speaker 3: could look better, but it's just it's just a tough division.

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Speaker 3: just I don't have a high opinion of him. The

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Speaker 4: It's got at the point where I kind of want

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it was. It doesn't look great for them.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, Schoenmacher, the pick was probably you know,

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Speaker 3: he's twenty five. They probably wanted a guy who's quote

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Speaker 4: really the way that it works. No, Like the tight

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's like I said, it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: think I think it's gonna be a competitive division this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: to the NFC North.

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Speaker 1: This one should be fun.

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Speaker 3: This this These draft classes were some I was really

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Speaker 1: So let's start with the Chicago Bears, who.

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Speaker 3: they start out with offensive tackle Darnell right out of Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: So, what did you think of Chicago here?

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Speaker 4: help fields develop into a more complete passer. I liked

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like what Chicago did because you know, when

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Speaker 3: I actually really liked what Chicago has been doing all offseason,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, one hundred percent agree with that.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to another team that's still

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Speaker 3: I think in the process of gonna, you know, having

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Speaker 1: That is the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 3: They start out with Lucas van Ness, the defensive end

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Speaker 3: they've done that twelve of the last thirteen. What did

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I probably would have gone with the

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Speaker 4: And then two it's a sort of you know, partying

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Speaker 4: mean Lucas van Ness, like, I don't think you can

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Speaker 4: You know, that's the type of player that he is.

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Speaker 4: of being in a couple of years, like the number

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Speaker 4: one wide receiver on this offense if they're like kind

434
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Speaker 4: of uh funneling the ball through the slot position. Like

435
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Speaker 4: I think he's probably the better, like more consistent wide receiver.

436
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Speaker 4: Comparing him to Christian Watson, like Watson's more the playmaker,

437
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 4: but I think Reid could be the guy that they

438
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Speaker 4: actually consistently can move the ball through. So intrigued by

439
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 4: what they did there, I think it was smart to,

440
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 4: you know, load up on all of those pass catchers.

441
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Speaker 4: So yeah, B plus I think is a pretty solid

442
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Speaker 4: grade for them.

443
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like what the Packers did as well.

444
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Speaker 3: I mean that my least favorite move the Packers made

445
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Speaker 3: this offseason was bringing back Joe Barry at defensive coordinator

446
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,719
Speaker 3: because that defense seems to continuously underperformed despite a lot

447
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: of talent on that side of the ball. But I'm

448
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 3: looking at this Packers team, it's just kind of the

449
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: same way I look at this Bears team. It's like

450
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Speaker 3: your plus four ten to win the NFC North aft Fando,

451
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Speaker 3: that's you know, the fourth out of the four teams.

452
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Speaker 3: I think this Bears team and the Packers team we

453
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Speaker 3: just talked about have almost just as good of a

454
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Speaker 3: chance that winning this division as you know, the Lions

455
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Speaker 3: and the Vikings who will get to now. So I

456
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Speaker 3: thought the Packers had a good enough draft to to

457
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Speaker 3: kind of put them in a position to win this year.

458
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Speaker 1: So I liked it.

459
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, at a minimum, they're putting some more

460
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Speaker 4: bodies there at the pass catching unit to help them,

461
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Speaker 4: you know, be able toaluate Jordan Love.

462
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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings, who had

463
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Speaker 3: such a strange season last year. I mean, they were

464
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Speaker 3: like a bottom six team in a lot of advanced metrics,

465
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Speaker 3: but they ended up winning thirteen games and then of

466
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Speaker 3: course get ousted by the Giants in the first round

467
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Speaker 3: of playoffs. So this Viking team probably had more needs

468
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Speaker 3: than I think. You know, the average casual fan, you know,

469
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Speaker 3: looking at just their record last year, might think they go.

470
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Speaker 3: USC's Jordan and Addison in the first round a wide receiver.

471
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Speaker 1: What do you think of him? And what do you

472
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Speaker 1: think of the overall Vikings class?

473
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm giving this class a C. And you know,

474
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Speaker 4: keeping in mind that t. J. Hawkinson is kind of

475
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Speaker 4: a part of this class because they traded for him

476
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Speaker 4: last year, and obviously, you know, a playmaking tight end there.

477
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Speaker 4: Jordan Addison, he's fine, you know in terms of like

478
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Speaker 4: the production that he gave us in college. You know,

479
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: but Liitnikoff Award winning wide receiver at pitt and then

480
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 4: transferred to USC and regressed a little bit there. He's

481
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 4: not big, he's not fast, you know, he's just kind

482
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Speaker 4: of a you know, presumably really good route runner.

483
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Speaker 1: I feel like it was a little bit of a reach.

484
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Speaker 2: Uh.

485
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Speaker 4: And then you know, I kind of look at this

486
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Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, hey, like, Vikings, did you basically scout

487
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 4: like only three or four schools. Yeah, you took a

488
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 4: USC wide receiver, a USC cornerback at the top of

489
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Speaker 4: the board, and then after that you took LSU defensive

490
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: back and an LSU defensive tackle, and like all those

491
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Speaker 4: players like they're they're fine. But there was like nothing really,

492
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Speaker 4: you know, notable about what the Vikings did in this

493
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Speaker 4: draft outside of drafting Jordan Addison in the first round.

494
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Speaker 4: And I would say I went I wouldn't say that

495
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Speaker 4: Addison was like a reach, but he was kind of

496
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Speaker 4: close to it. I feel like, you know, if he'd

497
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Speaker 4: gone number thirty one, that probably would have been a

498
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 4: little bit better. You know, he was the last of

499
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Speaker 4: these wide receivers off of the board, and I kind

500
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Speaker 4: of feel like I understand why he was the fourth.

501
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 4: You know, I feel like this was a little bit

502
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Speaker 4: of an instance of the Vikings wanting a wide receiver

503
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Speaker 4: in the first round and settling for the guy who

504
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Speaker 4: fell to them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and remember this Vikings team, they had a negative

506
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: point differential last year their Pythagora and went told it

507
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: was only eight point four, so you know, they overperformed

508
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Speaker 3: by almost five wins and you know, only six picks

509
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Speaker 3: in the draft.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned, not a lot.

511
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Speaker 3: Of schools that they are picking out of, So yeah,

512
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Speaker 3: I think this there is some significant downside to this class.

513
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not too high on the Vikings.

514
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Speaker 3: I know, you know, I love you know, some of

515
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 3: their star players, obviously justin Jefferson, but you know, the

516
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: defense was twenty seventh in Dvoa.

517
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Speaker 1: You know is Blackman and Ward. You know those guys.

518
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Speaker 1: Are they going to be enough? I don't know.

519
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Speaker 3: And then yeah, like you said with Addison even that

520
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Speaker 3: that could potentially be a reach. So yeah, I'm not

521
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Speaker 3: too thrilled with the but the vict And that's why

522
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Speaker 3: I think those teams at the bottom, like the you know,

523
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Speaker 3: the Bears and the Packers have a chance to kind

524
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Speaker 3: of jump them.

525
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Speaker 1: All right, let's finish with the Lions. Who I mean,

526
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Speaker 1: they had a.

527
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Speaker 3: Pretty they had an eventful draft here, you know, Jamiir

528
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Speaker 3: Gibbs running back out of Alabama at.

529
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Speaker 1: Twelve overall, I mean let's start there. Where did you

530
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Speaker 1: take it at?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was you know, that's a reach in my opinion,

532
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Speaker 4: that's a reach. Now I create a big board where

533
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Speaker 4: I rank, you know, like the top three hundred players

534
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Speaker 4: for me in the class, and I'll say like, yeah,

535
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 4: I had Jamiir Gibbs in the twenties, so you know,

536
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Speaker 4: just based on that number, yeah, he should go in

537
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Speaker 4: round one. You know. But if he didn't go in

538
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Speaker 4: round one, I wouldn't think the NFL was making a mistake.

539
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 4: I would just think, Okay, like they're evaluating running backs

540
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Speaker 4: in a maner that is kind of more commensurate with

541
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Speaker 4: the value that they provide on the football field and

542
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Speaker 4: the value that you know they command in their contracts.

543
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Speaker 4: And you know, Jamiir Gibbs, he's one hundred and ninety

544
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Speaker 4: nine pounds. You know, he's not a three down player

545
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Speaker 4: the way that you know Bjon Robinson is. And so

546
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Speaker 4: I think it's questionable taking a running back in the

547
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Speaker 4: top twenty. But if you're gonna do it, get Bjon Robinson.

548
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Speaker 4: And that's the thing the Lions, they had the number

549
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Speaker 4: six pick, they could have taken Bijon Robinson if they

550
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Speaker 4: wanted to instead, they traded down to twelve and took

551
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Speaker 4: Jamiir Gibbs, which, like, okay, at least you're like picking

552
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Speaker 4: up some draft capital on moving back from six to twelve.

553
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: But what this kind of signals to me, Like there

554
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 4: were rumors that there were teams that actually had Gibbs

555
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: ahead of Robinson on their draft board. I think the

556
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: Lions like Gibbs more than they liked Robinson, which like

557
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: that on its own kind of terrifies me. But the

558
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: fact that you took one hundred and ninety nine pound

559
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Speaker 4: running back at number twelve, that just like screams I

560
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 4: don't want to say of incompetence, but like of something

561
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 4: like of not even desperation, but just like of a

562
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: change of philosophy in terms of how they have been

563
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: doing their drafts up to this point. And then to

564
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Speaker 4: follow that up at number eighteen with Iowa linebacker Jack Campbell. Now,

565
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: like I like Campbell, like I think he will be,

566
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: if like the worst, a serviceable starter, but like he

567
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: could be like a Pro Bowl type of off ball linebacker.

568
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Speaker 4: But I don't think you take that at number eighteen,

569
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Speaker 4: you know, So I'm really conflicted about what they did

570
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: in the first round. And here's a way of thinking

571
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Speaker 4: about it. We talked about the Eagles at the top

572
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Speaker 4: of the show. The Eagles took at number nine and

573
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Speaker 4: number thirty Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith. The Lions could

574
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Speaker 4: have done the exact same thing. If the Lions had

575
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Speaker 4: taken Jalen Carter at number six and then Nolan Smith

576
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 4: at number eighteen, everyone would be talking about how the

577
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 4: Lions dominated the draft, right. They could have done that,

578
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: and instead they took a running back and a linebacker.

579
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Speaker 4: And even though I like those players, it just doesn't

580
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 4: match up with the value on the board. Now here's

581
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: the thing after that, and I would say, if you

582
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: screw up your two first round picks, like I'm gonna

583
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 4: ding you pretty hard. But after that, I actually really

584
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 4: like what they did with their draft. They got Iowa

585
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 4: tight end Sam Laporta in the second round. That dude

586
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 4: is a baller. You know, the Iowa offense was bad

587
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: the past two years, and Laporta was productive within that

588
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: offense as the number one receiver in that offense. So

589
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 4: like we saw him produce in college. And the dude

590
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: is an athlete like we've seen Iowa produce athletes at

591
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Speaker 4: the tight end position. He's like the next guy in

592
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 4: that string. And then Alabama defensive back. I think he's

593
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: a safety, but maybe he's a slot corner either way,

594
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: Brian Branch, that guy could have gone in the first round,

595
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 4: was widely mocked in the first round. You're able to

596
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 4: get him in the second round tremendous value. And then

597
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: third round Tennessee quarterback Hendon Hooker. There was, you know,

598
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: some hype about him maybe going in round one. That

599
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: would have been a big reach getting him three. He's

600
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: not gonna play this year. He's old, he's got you know,

601
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: the ACL injury, and he played in an offense that

602
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: was extremely limited and there are questions about how that

603
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: will transition to the NFL. But getting him in round

604
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: three sure do that all all day when your quarterback

605
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: is Jared Goff and there are questions about whether he's

606
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: going to be with your team next year. So I

607
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: think they totally screwed up on Day one. I think

608
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: they were awesome on Day three. On Day two, except

609
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 4: for Western Kentucky defensive tackle Broderick Martin. They took him

610
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: at pick ninety six. He's more of a fifth rounder.

611
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 4: So like again, they've reached there, but the heart of

612
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: day two I thought they absolutely dominated, so their class

613
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: as a whole, I feel like it's okay, but I'm sorry.

614
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 4: If you screw up so royally on day one, I'm

615
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: going to dinghy for it because you have the opportunity.

616
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is no longer in your division. If you

617
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: crushed day one, you could rule the NFC North for

618
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: the next decade, and instead you took a running back

619
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Speaker 4: in an off ball linebacker.

620
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do, I do agree with you.

621
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Speaker 3: I think it did signal this kind of change, and

622
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Speaker 3: I think the change was I think they, you know,

623
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Speaker 3: because of being ahead of schedule last year. I think

624
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: that kind of played into how they approached because they

625
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 3: seemed like another another team with they had a lot

626
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: of swings, but instead of necessarily playing the value at

627
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: least early on, they kind of just took their guys

628
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: and but the interesting was thing was, to your point,

629
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Speaker 3: they then did get some great values on the next day,

630
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: So it's kind of it is kind of hard to evaluate,

631
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: and you know, I guess they made the Gibs pick

632
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: also knowing they would trade DeAndre Swift at some point,

633
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: which which factors in as well. So I mean, this

634
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: is when it could probably look better than it does

635
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: right now. It gives his you know, dynamic and Campbell

636
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: kind of fills that whole, uh, you know, at linebacker.

637
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: So you know, for me, I'm not gonna I don't

638
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: think i'd go as well as Like, I think i'd

639
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: still give it in the seas because I do think

640
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: it's high upside enough to give Detroit, you know, that

641
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 3: division title. But I still do think that the Bears,

642
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: and you know, I agree with you that the Bears

643
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: and the Packers both had better drafts, but I kind

644
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: of I'd probably put Detroit above Minnesota, to be honest

645
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: with you, in this draft, just because of the amount

646
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: of picks and the fact that they did get pretty

647
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: good values on Day two.

648
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, like if you're if you're looking at it in

649
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: a vacuum, I would agree with you. For me, this

650
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: is about like the disappointment of what you've done in

651
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 4: the past and what that signal and what you could

652
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: have done in round one. You know, like you could

653
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: have absolutely dominated and you have this opportunity you've been

654
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: building with these first round picks. You've been building to

655
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: this moment and then you let the opportunity go.

656
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Detroit. You know, they don't dominate, so

657
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: they Detroit. The Detroit Lions will never dominate. They will

658
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: always be They'll always kind of squeak by with just enough.

659
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, how Barry Sands just got out

660
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: of that broken tackle. Like it's kind of like that.

661
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: That's that's Detroit. Many like the every game versus the

662
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: vice for the next thirty years, it's going to be

663
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: like a three point game where one of the teams

664
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: is up like twenty and then the other one comes back.

665
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: So, yeah, get it. It was on brand. It was

666
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: on brand.

667
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: It was on brand.

668
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're accurate.

669
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: It will always be like that because they took a

670
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 4: running back in the linebacker.

671
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: Hey, my biggest thing about Detroit, man, how yah, I

672
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: gotta let yeah the heart and soul of the team,

673
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: Jamal Williams go that that hurt man. I thought he

674
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: gave them a little extra edge. But we shall see.

675
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Carolina. You know, first pick

676
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: of the draft, Bryce Young, I thought that was the

677
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: right pick. I've said that for a while now. I

678
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: think you know, I know there's size limitations. I get

679
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: that but at the end of the day, for me, anyway,

680
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: you know, I see every year, how you know, all

681
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: of us, from you know, you know, from the top

682
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: experts to people that are just kind of like moderately

683
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: interested in the draft, get these quarterback evaluations wrong. And

684
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: to me, like Bryce Young was the surest thing, you know,

685
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: size be damned as far as just the talent the

686
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: processing in the draft.

687
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: So I like that pick, But what did you think?

688
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, I gave him a bee. You know,

689
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: I think Bryce Young was the top quarterback. I mean,

690
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: the size limitations, we just have to see, you know,

691
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: like he will he will be an outlier in the NFL.

692
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: It's not even so much the height, it's it's the build,

693
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: it's the way. You know, I know that he was

694
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: two four at the combine. That dude's not two hundred

695
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: and four pounds, you know, like he's going to be

696
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: playing probably in the one nineties, and so we just

697
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: kind of have to see, you know. But what we

698
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: saw from him in college was dynamic, uh, And I

699
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: think if you're going to trade up to number one,

700
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: he was the guy to do it for. And so

701
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: the Panthers they made it happen and so they traded

702
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: away a lot of draft capital now and in the

703
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 4: future to go get their guy so that they would

704
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: no longer be in quarterback purgatory as they have been

705
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 4: for the past few seasons. But you know, after that,

706
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: it's basically a I mean, I want to say it's

707
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: a nothing class. But you know, you have Jonathan Mingo,

708
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: the wide receiver from Mississippi. They took him near the

709
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: top of the second round. That was a little bit

710
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: of a reach, but you know, like, okay, like you're

711
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: getting your guy, a wide receiver, right, Like that wide

712
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: receiver room in Carolina I think is one of the

713
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: least inspiring in the league.

714
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could go It could go bad if Thewen

715
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: is like the Thewen from the last few weeks, and

716
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: I know, I know he was getting open a little

717
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: bit more than maybe he got the ball. You know,

718
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: Cousin decided to lock on it Jefferson, which understandable, but

719
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: I mean that now there's another year passing another offseason,

720
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: he could still go downhill. And then Shark has never

721
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 3: been able to be a consistent threat in this league.

722
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, that that room, I agree with you, that

723
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: could go bad. And they still have all those like

724
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 3: subpart tight ends as well.

725
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, So at least you got a pass catcher

726
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: for your quarterback, you know, But then they have only

727
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 4: three picks after that. So you know, this draft class

728
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 4: pretty much is Bryce Young. And so I'm giving them

729
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: a bee for you know, taking the initiative to go

730
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 4: up there and get their quarterback and hopefully he pays

731
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: off for the future. But you know, they had to

732
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 4: give away DJ Moore to do it, and you know,

733
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: I have a lot of respect for Dj Moore. I mean,

734
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 4: that guy is still young and he's been in the

735
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: league for five years, you know, so I think that

736
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: this class is a B for me. But this class

737
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: pretty much is just Bryce Young.

738
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're gonna look back at the Panthers,

739
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: and believe me, I love Bryce Young. But you know,

740
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 3: this was a team that I kind of I thought

741
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: they were a little bit undervalued down the stretch last year.

742
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: You know, they had the coaching change, and a lot

743
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: of the elements that you know, kind of made them

744
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: better down the stretch last year are gone. Now like

745
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 3: they got a whole new coaching staff. You know, they

746
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: get rid of Dj More. You know, they're not going

747
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: to have the same you're foreman was a major tone

748
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: setter for them in the backfield, you know, so they

749
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: kind of they switched it up to where I mean,

750
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: this young pick better not just like it better be

751
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: out of the park for them, because I agree, I

752
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: think they didn't. They probably didn't improve as much as

753
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: I think people thought they might, you know, get getting

754
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: that number one pick. So yeah, I think I think

755
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 3: my my thing, you know, Stucky called me the Panthers

756
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: whisper last year because like I was just betting on

757
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: them as underdogs pretty much ever since they got rid

758
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: of matt Rule, which I feel like that was a

759
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: fair strategy. Now I think the market's going to be

760
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: too high on them, so I'll probably be fading them

761
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: this year. But let's go to the This is not

762
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: an interesting division wide open, I would say. So the

763
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tom Brady retires, so you know, the

764
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: quarterback situation would have been in flux, but you know,

765
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: not you know, by the time they're picking it at nineteen,

766
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: you know, I guess you could say they could have

767
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 3: had a Levis. But another one of those teams that

768
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: just like, nope, not going to be us. They go

769
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: with Colijah Cansy out of Pittsburgh defensive tackle.

770
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: Where'd you think of him? And where do you think

771
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: of the class overall?

772
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: I like Kancy now in terms of defensive tackles. He

773
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: is small, right, like one of the shortest, slightest, short

774
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: armed defensive tackles that you will ever see. But the

775
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 4: dude tore up the combine like he I would say

776
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 4: he compensates for the lack of size with near other

777
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: world athleticism and in that way, he's pretty comparable to

778
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald. And it's, you know, maybe a coincidence. They

779
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 4: both went to Pittsburgh, so you know people have made

780
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: that comparison. I don't think he has the strength of

781
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald, but you know he's got some of that athleticism.

782
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: And so pairrying him next to vite veya like that

783
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 4: will help compensate for his lack of size and like

784
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 4: from the interior, the dude is a dynamic pass rusher.

785
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: And so even though he plays a devalued position like

786
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 4: defensive tackle, because he's a pass rusher, like a real,

787
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: like a legit pass rusher from the interior, there is

788
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 4: the possibility that he can actually be a force on

789
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: that defensive line, and then you know the Tampa Bay

790
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 4: Buccaneers took after that in the second round, North Dakota

791
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: State offensive guard, the offensive lineman whatever, cod Cody Mock

792
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: who I mean, he was a tackle in FCS. But

793
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: that guy is just he can play all over, you know,

794
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: Like he even took snaps at center at the Senior

795
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: Bowl to kind of show that he could do it.

796
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: They're probably gonna put him in at right guard right

797
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: away to replace Shaq Mason. That guy's really intriguing. Like

798
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: he plays with the nastiness right, Like he's missing his

799
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: two front teeth and he's like intentionally not gotten them replaced,

800
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 4: Like he just wants to like show that, like he's

801
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: this nasty type of ballplayer. So like, I like those

802
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: two guys, But you know, be minus because you're going

803
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: into the season with Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask as

804
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: your quarterbacks. You had the chance to address the quarterback

805
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 4: position and you chose not to. Like, as great as

806
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: the rest of your roster kind of is right. I mean,

807
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 4: they had a Super Bowl winning roster a couple of

808
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 4: years ago. A lot of those guys are still on

809
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: the team. As great as your roster is you have

810
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 4: a hole at quarterback, you had the opportunity to address it,

811
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 4: and he did it, so be minus.

812
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's not forget I mean, they had that

813
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: quarterback last year and they were five hundred ish team.

814
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, those two we're removed now from

815
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: that super Bowl team. My concern and I do like

816
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: that they didn't come into this draft and say we

817
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: have to overcompensate for the fact that we don't have

818
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 3: a quarterback. I like that they didn't, you know, just

819
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: go a bunch of offensive players and try to you know,

820
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: like they know the kind of strength of their team

821
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: and that there's probably you know, they needed to improve

822
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: the line on offense, but for the most part, you know,

823
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: they kind of reinforce their defense. But I look at

824
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 3: this this offense now, just in I don't know if

825
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 3: they have enough speed, especially playing you know, half your

826
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: games and you mid Tampa Bay, like I you know,

827
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: like Mike Evans isn't fast, Godwin's not fast, the quarterbacks

828
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: not fast, the tight ends aren't fast, the line is

829
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: not really that fast, like I you know, this is

830
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: one of those like this offense could be one of

831
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 3: those offenses that they were like they're like they're scoring

832
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: like seven to ten thirteen in every game, you know,

833
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: so they're really gonna need that defense and then those

834
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: six to hit.

835
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: So like, that's that's kind of my concern.

836
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: Like I liked that they didn't go overboard on offense,

837
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: but I could have used some more speed in there somewhere.

838
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: So that, Yeah, that's that's my concern with the Bucks. Yeah.

839
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: I would say at least they didn't step on the

840
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 4: land line of drafting and running back, you know, like,

841
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 4: oh we we let our big bodied running back go,

842
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: we're gonna need to replace him with a top one

843
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 4: hundred pick. At least they didn't do that.

844
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, but now they Yeah, it's still though,

845
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: it's just a very unspeedy like I mean, like imagine

846
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 3: they played the Chiefs Like that's what I'm saying, you know,

847
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: like that Chiefs defense, even with all those unproven guys,

848
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 3: Like I feel like they just eat this Bucks offense

849
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 3: for lunch because they don't have no speech. So maybe

850
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: they make a move, who knows. But yeah, that's this

851
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: whole division. I mean, there's a lot of there's a

852
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 3: lot of flaws to put it lightly, uh in this

853
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: NFC South. Let's go to the Norman Saints, the favorite

854
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: to win this division. Now, the Saints, of course, you know,

855
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: they they get some some compensation for Sean Payton, but

856
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: they they're still not pick until the end of the

857
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: first round.

858
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: They go with Brian How do you say that? Is

859
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: it Bressee or is it I.

860
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: Think Precis or say I've heard either one of those?

861
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, Brian Bresee, defensive tackle out of Clemson at

862
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: at one point thirty and then they have Isaiah Fosky,

863
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: the defensive end at a Notre Dame at two o nine.

864
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 3: And those were positions that I think they did need

865
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: to address because I feel like their entire defensive front

866
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: almost went to like Carolina and Atlanta, Yeah, this offseason,

867
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: so they did they did have some They kind.

868
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: Of did address needs early on. What did you think

869
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: of the Saints draft?

870
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh C plus, you know, I would say with

871
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: Brusse and Fosky, as you mentioned, they definitely address positions

872
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: of need. They may be reached a little bit with

873
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 4: both of those guys, but they were kind of in

874
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 4: the general range of you know, acceptability. In the third round,

875
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: they took a running back Kendre Miller out of TCU. Now,

876
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: like I like Miller, but I would say, you don't

877
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: need to take a running back in the third round.

878
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 4: I know, maybe you're a little bit worried about like

879
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara, he's aging, possibly facing a suspension. You know,

880
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: Jamal Williams as the backup running back there. But I

881
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: would say, like with.

882
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Those two guys, I don't think you're really need.

883
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 4: To spend a third rounder on Kendrick Miller, Like you've

884
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: got other needs now at least you know, they took

885
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: a guard in the fourth round. They also took I

886
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: would say, developmental quarterback Jake Hayner in the fourth round,

887
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 4: and like he's kind of intriguing to me as a

888
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: guy that maybe they develop behind Derek Carr for a

889
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: couple of years. But you know, kind of underwhelming draft.

890
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 4: Like you know, I think you were fine in the

891
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: first two rounds and c plus there, but after that,

892
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 4: not really anything that is extraordinary. And I would say,

893
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 4: like maybe you didn't really use your third round pick

894
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 4: the way that you should have.

895
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Saints third team, like they're kind of

896
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: just by default the favorite in this division.

897
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: But I see, and this is another team.

898
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: I believe Dennis Allis has never gotten over their season

899
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: win total in like his four years of starting the

900
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: year as a team's head coach, So take that for

901
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: what you will. But Saint's another team I think could

902
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 3: be a little overrated. Problem is, one of the teams

903
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: that I thought would be a little underrated leaving this

904
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: draft was the Falcons. But I don't know how to

905
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: feel about it because I know Bjon Robinson is a

906
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 3: great player, I hear it, But I can't get behind

907
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 3: a team with this many holes still taking a running

908
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: back at a and and listen, they were what they were,

909
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 3: a top offense last year in terms of DVOA running

910
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: the ball, so it's not like it's not like this

911
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: team actually had a major There was a number three

912
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: rush offense during the regular season last year by advanced metrics.

913
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: So I mean, essentially, this team is shooting for the moon.

914
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: They're saying, we want to be the number one rush

915
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: offense in the league and then.

916
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: Let all the other trips fow where they may. And hey,

917
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: that could be a recipe to win this division because

918
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: it's not an impressive division. But I don't know.

919
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: I mean, what you know, I know you have strong

920
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: opinions on this. Let's let's talk about the Robinson pick

921
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: first and then and then give me the overall grade.

922
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, J Robinson. So you know, it's funny how like

923
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: every every five years people talk about how we're getting

924
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: a once in every decade type of running back prospect.

925
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 4: But you know, with Bjon Robinson, yeah, he's a fantastic player.

926
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 4: He was, you know, a five star recruit entering college.

927
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: He dominated at Texas. You know, he's got a true

928
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 4: three down skill set where he you know, I think

929
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: he's a better runner than Saquon Barkley was Like Barkley,

930
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: you know, like obviously was dominant in college, but was

931
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: more of a like home run type of hitter where

932
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 4: if he if he didn't break a long run, maybe

933
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: he wasn't really getting all that much yardage. Whereas I

934
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 4: think Bjon Robinson is a more consistent, down to down

935
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 4: runner and I think teams will prefer that.

936
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: A little bit.

937
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: And he's also a pretty good pass catcher. Now I

938
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 4: will say, like teams will say something like this guy

939
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 4: isn't just a running back, He's an all around weapon.

940
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 4: Like we can line him up in the slot, you know,

941
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, that's that's a lie.

942
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: Well well I will say this though, to stop you

943
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: real quick, because if one team does say that and

944
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: mean it, it's the It's the Falcons because look at

945
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: Cordella Patterson, look at what they do with cal pigs.

946
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: So that actually I will give them some.

947
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: Credit for that because they actually are serious when when

948
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: they talk about like Marcus Mariota was a running back

949
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: playing quarterback last year, so I think.

950
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: They do kind of do this. So I I mean,

951
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: I I agree Demir.

952
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 3: Bird was a black hole playing flider receiver. They know

953
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: how to six their position.

954
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree the Demir Bird slander. I agree

955
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: with everything. And the thing is like even if they

956
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 4: say they intend actually to use Bijon Robinson in the

957
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: slot something, and maybe they actually will because they have

958
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 4: Tyler Algier at running back, you know, like he's not

959
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 4: like an actual slot receiver, right, So like anytime a

960
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 4: team says something like, oh, he's not just a running back,

961
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 4: he's an all around weapon, you know that the team

962
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 4: made a mistake, like they're trying to to like couch

963
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 4: what it is that they did. So you know, Robinson,

964
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 4: I love him as a player, I don't think the

965
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: value is actually there at number eight. That said, this

966
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: was the most telegraphed pick out of any of the

967
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 4: picks in the top ten, Like it was like Bryce

968
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 4: Young and then Bjohn Robinson going number eight to the Falcons, right, So,

969
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: like I I just sort of accepted it for what

970
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 4: it was. And then I'll say, you know, after that,

971
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 4: I feel like they were okay. You know, they took

972
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: Matthew Bergeron out of Syracuse in the second round to

973
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: help strengthen that offensive line. He's got some tackle guard,

974
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 4: you know, versatility, you know Ohio State edge rusher Zach

975
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 4: Harrison will help a little bit on the defensive line.

976
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 4: And then I wouldn't say, you know, it's still of

977
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 4: the draft. But Utah cornerback Clark Phillips, you know, an

978
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 4: All American player, They got him in the fourth round.

979
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: You know, there were questions about athleticism, but you know,

980
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: I think he's not going to be a dynamite playmaker

981
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 4: for them, but I think he's going to be able

982
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: to slot in as a starter or at least as

983
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 4: a depth cornerback. So I think getting him in the

984
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: fourth round with some value. So, like, I don't hate

985
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 4: what they did with their draft, you know, outside of

986
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 4: the fact that they took Bijon Robinson. Now, like if

987
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 4: you are ever going to take a running back in

988
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: the top ten, fine, like he sort of fits the mold,

989
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 4: Like he looks like other running backs who have been

990
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: taken in the top ten. Now, I think almost all

991
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: of those running backs shouldn't have been taken, But like

992
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 4: I sort of get what they were doing. And if

993
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 4: you think that Arthur Smith, you know, had success with

994
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: the Titans as the offensive coordinator there, maybe you just

995
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: think of Bijon Robinson as a smaller but you know,

996
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 4: much more past capable running back like Derrick Henry. Like

997
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: maybe that's the way that you think about him, and

998
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 4: they're going to run that offense in that way. But Raymond,

999
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 4: to your point about the way that we might see

1000
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: the Falcons do things on offense, like they are they

1001
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 4: are kind of freaky now, Like, yeah, you know, they've

1002
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 4: they've got Drake London at wide receiver, They've got Kyle

1003
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: Pitts at tight end. You've got this sort of like

1004
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: all around play maker in Quardrell Patterson. You've got Tyler

1005
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 4: Alger who was a pretty good running back last year

1006
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: as a fifth round rookie, and then you add Bijon

1007
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: Robinson to that. Oh, by the way, like John new

1008
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: Smith as a super athletic playmaking number two tight end.

1009
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 4: Like They've got some players now, it's just a matter

1010
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: of putting it all together. So the Falcons, I'm giving

1011
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 4: them a c uh. You know, Bijon Robinson, if you're

1012
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 4: going to go with the running back in the top ten,

1013
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: you want them to look like Bjon Robinson.

1014
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, this is it.

1015
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: It's tough for me with this class because I think

1016
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: that overall when I look at this roster and even

1017
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 3: after the after the draft, I still think this is

1018
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 3: the team that's sneaky to win this division. Like, if

1019
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 3: you're betting on any of these teams at the current values,

1020
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: I think it's the Falcons at plus three hundred to

1021
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 3: win this division. I don't think you want the Saints

1022
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: that near even money. I think the Bucks are still

1023
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: too far off. And the Panthers I just think are

1024
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 3: a little overvalued. They're they're kind of in the same

1025
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: range as the Falcons, but you know, their offensive line

1026
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: is going to look pretty good, and like you said,

1027
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: their skill positions are freaky and I you know, I

1028
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: guess wide receiver would have been a nice addition, but

1029
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: it wasn't a great wide receiver draft, and they could

1030
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 3: always They did have.

1031
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: Success using corde All Patterson you.

1032
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: Know, in the slot, you know, even on the outside

1033
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: some so if your wide receiver corps is suddenly London

1034
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: Patterson in the slot and then then you're going mac Hollins,

1035
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: you know, as you're third on the outside, and he

1036
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: doesn't really have to do much but kind of block

1037
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: and like catch a possession play every once in a while,

1038
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 3: because we know Heinike is like you know, he's like

1039
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: a magic man, like he just somehow wins games even

1040
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 3: though he's not supposed to. So like, I think this

1041
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: Falcon team has some upside at least to win this division.

1042
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 3: And I don't think the draft really put took them

1043
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: off course, but I know what you mean. It's like

1044
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: with that eight pick, it just they could. It feels

1045
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: like they could have.

1046
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: Done more and still been in a similar position.

1047
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it does beIN Ritter kind of add him

1048
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 4: to the list, like he's an athletic marvel in his

1049
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 4: own right. You know, I don't think he's going to

1050
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 4: be a passer. I imagine he's not gonna start the

1051
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: entire season for them. You know, at some point I

1052
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: think they start Ritter and then they transition to Heinike.

1053
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: But you know, like Ritter, like, at least if you're

1054
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 4: going to run a run heavy offense, Ridder as a

1055
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 4: running quarterback, you know, he's got some pretty good speed.

1056
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 4: At least he should help open up some of the

1057
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 4: running lanes for them.

1058
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1059
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the NFC West and let's

1060
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: start with the Arizona Cardinals. They trade back a little

1061
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: bit in that first round. Still get Paris Johnson, the

1062
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: offensive tackle out of Ohio State at number six. What

1063
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 3: did you think of the Cardinals draft?

1064
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: I'm giving them an a minus. Now, Like, keep in mind,

1065
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: this is a first year GM and Monte Austin fort

1066
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: and so you know, coming in, you know, like it's

1067
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 4: not as if his staff, his scouts have been able

1068
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 4: to run the process for the entirety of this. So,

1069
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 4: you know, I think you he and like all first

1070
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 4: year gms are a little bit disadvantaged and that they're

1071
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 4: just not They don't have their people in the building

1072
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 4: for the entirety of the scouting season, and so with

1073
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 4: that in mind, I think he did a pretty good

1074
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 4: job of kicking some of their draft capital into the future, right,

1075
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 4: And like it wasn't just a small thing. Right, they

1076
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: were able to get the future first rounder for the Texans,

1077
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 4: and you know, like I said on the AFC pod,

1078
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: like there's a chance that's the number one overall pick, right,

1079
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: you know, and the Cardinals they might get the number

1080
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 4: one overall pick because they could be really bad this year,

1081
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 4: but at least with those two picks, like they give

1082
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 4: themselves multiple shots at you know, high picks in next

1083
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 4: year's draft. And so moving from three to six, you know,

1084
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 4: I think they were able still to get and guard

1085
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: Paris Johnson or offensive tackle Paris Johnson, the guy that

1086
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 4: they would have taken a three. Now, I think that's

1087
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 4: a little bit rich, but fine. You get the best

1088
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: offensive tackle in this class to protect your quarterback, you know,

1089
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: whether that's you know, Kyler Murray at some point or

1090
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 4: you know, hey, whether you move on from Kyler Murray

1091
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: in the future in a loaded quarterback class next year,

1092
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 4: they can use all of that capital to get one

1093
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 4: of the top quarterbacks. You know, that would be pretty

1094
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: intriguing too. So they have the capability or the potential

1095
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 4: at least to do that with the capital they accumulated.

1096
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 4: But they still get Paris Johnson Junior, a good left

1097
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 4: tackle in this class. They get edge rusher bj Ojlare

1098
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: out of LSU. They got him in the second round.

1099
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a really good contributor.

1100
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: And then in the third round they got Stanford wide

1101
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 4: receiver Michael Wilson, who had almost no production in college

1102
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: because of injuries, but like who is like an athletic,

1103
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 4: you know, not like total athletic freak, but like a dominant,

1104
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: like possession wide receiver, like strong at the catch point

1105
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: was like just absolutely mossing guys at the Senior Bowl

1106
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: and the drills there, and so getting him as a

1107
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 4: third round wide receiver, I think there was some value there.

1108
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 4: So like kicking all of that draft capital into next year,

1109
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: into a better draft so that you know your scouts

1110
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: can have a full year to be evaluating a class

1111
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 4: and getting a left tackle and an edge rusher in

1112
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: the first two rounds. I think that's pretty good process there.

1113
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 4: So a minus for the Cardinals.

1114
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think the I don't think they move

1115
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 3: on from Kyler Murray and I don't think they should.

1116
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: But what you're gonna have to do is you're gonna

1117
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: have to figure out a way to win while paying

1118
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray a lot of money. And I think put

1119
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: you know, having a couple of premium picks next year,

1120
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: because this year is pretty much you're gonna have to

1121
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: punt with Murray probably missing what half of it, give

1122
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 3: or take. I think, you know, they and they did

1123
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: get a lot of picks this year, so they got

1124
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: they took some swings, they got some guys they can

1125
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: develop on defense. I think they still need help, you know,

1126
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: at the cornerback position obviously, But yeah, I don't hate

1127
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 3: it for Arizona. I think, you know, given the resources,

1128
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: this is kind of what they had to do.

1129
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: Seattle.

1130
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 3: Seattle's a team, who I know that one of those

1131
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: teams that I thought would come out of the draft

1132
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: looking pretty good. I think Seattle's is probably a little underrated,

1133
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 3: you know, in this division, just given where the Rams

1134
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: are and where the Cardinals are.

1135
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's kind of them versus the

1136
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: forty nine ers.

1137
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: Here they go with Devon Witherspoon at five, the cornerback

1138
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: out of Illinois, you know, some people thought it might

1139
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 3: be Jalen Carter here, But I mean the Seahawks, you know,

1140
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: they if Witherspoon's anywhere as good as the value they

1141
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: got out of Tariy Guhlin last year, I think they'll

1142
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: be in good shape here.

1143
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: But what did you think of Seattle's draft?

1144
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm giving them a B. And I'm a little

1145
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 4: bit conflicted on the Seahawks. So, you know, Witherspoon was

1146
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 4: a dynamic player in college and it was a surprise

1147
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 4: to see him go number five in part because you know,

1148
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 4: Jalen Carter was on the board there. And then also

1149
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 4: the Seahawks they just historically have been able to find

1150
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 4: cornerbacks later in the draft who've been able to produce.

1151
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 4: They you know, they it's been so long since they

1152
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: invested that kind of draft capital into a cornerback, no

1153
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 4: one expected it. And then also say, as much as

1154
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 4: I like Witherspoon, you know, like there's just sort of

1155
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: the meme of like this guy's got that dog in

1156
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: him and he like he really does as a player,

1157
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 4: like he's one hundred and eighty one pounds, but like

1158
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: the dude plays incredibly physical. I'm just a little bit

1159
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 4: skeptical about him. You know, I think Christian Gonzalez should

1160
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 4: have been the number one cornerback in the class. Like,

1161
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: you know, he's he's longer, he's bigger, he's faster, he's younger.

1162
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 4: You know, he was a four star recruit Devon Witherspoon.

1163
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 4: Like there were kind of complications about this, but the

1164
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: guy was literally a zero star recruit, you know. Like

1165
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 4: I'm just skeptical about his ability to play at that

1166
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 4: high level in the NFL and so taking him number

1167
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 4: five when he could have had Jalen Carter or if

1168
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 4: you wanted a cornerback, you could have had Christian Gonzalez.

1169
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 4: That just feels like a little bit of a reach.

1170
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: But if I'm taking a step back and saying, the

1171
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: NFL knows more than I do, And like it wasn't

1172
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 4: just the Seahawks that loved Witherspoon, lot of teams liked Witherspoon.

1173
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 4: If you say, in the first round, the Seahawks got

1174
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: the top cornerback and the top wide receiver in this class,

1175
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 4: I mean that's pretty good, you know. So like I

1176
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: can't I can't quibble too much with what they did

1177
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 4: in the first round. After that, I wasn't really thrilled

1178
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 4: with what they did. They started to do seahawksy type

1179
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 4: of things. You know, Auburn edge rusher Derek Hall at

1180
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 4: number thirty seven.

1181
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: That was a reach.

1182
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: And then you know, taking again a running back in

1183
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 4: the second round, like Pete, what are you doing here?

1184
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: You know you just did that last year. It feels

1185
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 4: like every three years you're taking a running back in

1186
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: round one in round two, like, just stop it. You

1187
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 4: don't need Zach sharpen A. But you know, they took

1188
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 4: the LC running back in the second round, and like,

1189
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: I think he's a good player, I just don't think

1190
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 4: you needed him in the second round. And so what

1191
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: they did after round two and after round one kind

1192
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 4: of uninspiring. But I do like what they did in

1193
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 4: round one. I'm giving them a beat.

1194
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Seattle. You know, they've they've kind of

1195
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: made a habit.

1196
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: Of going a little bit unorthodox in these drafts, but

1197
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 3: a lot of times their picks end up looking better

1198
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 3: than they did when they had the draft.

1199
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: Like even because I mean even last year, people were.

1200
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 3: Saying, hey, you don't really need Kenneth Walker, and he

1201
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: turned out to be a really good, good pick and

1202
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 3: I mean, we know. I think what Seattle's really trying

1203
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: to do is they're saying, Okay, like most you know,

1204
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: a team in our position, we could have been in

1205
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: the market for a quarterback. We've committed to Geno Smith.

1206
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: We need to make sure that like things are short

1207
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: up around us. Like I think that like with the

1208
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: Sharbona pick, it's like, you know, Kenneth Walker is great,

1209
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: but sometimes he's inpatient. I think Sharbone is a little

1210
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 3: more patience. But also if Walker gets hurt, I mean,

1211
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: that's like a lot of your offense right there, because

1212
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: you're trying to make sure Gino Smith, you know, is

1213
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: surrounded with like a run game and same thing you

1214
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: know with Smith's nijig. But it's like you know, you

1215
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: have Locker, you have Metcalf, but you know, if one

1216
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 3: of those guys go down, then what you know, it's

1217
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 3: kind of really impacts you. So I think I don't

1218
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 3: mind what Seattle did. I think I do think they're

1219
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: a little bit undervalued in the market just because we're

1220
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: so high in San Francisco. But you know, we've kind

1221
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: of seen this with San Francisco where they can have

1222
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: really good years. But if like the wrong guy gets hurt.

1223
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 3: They can also have really bad years.

1224
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like what Seattle did.

1225
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: I think I think they are a playoff contender this

1226
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: year with the roster they have.

1227
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. And I will say about Seattle,

1228
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: like last year, you know, when they had this almost

1229
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 4: all time great type of draft, almost all of the

1230
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 4: guys that they took, they took it values like relative

1231
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 4: to what you would see on consensus big boards. So

1232
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 4: you know, they got two offensive tackles, Charles Cross and

1233
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 4: Abraham Lucas. Both of those guys went at discounts. You know.

1234
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: The quarterback that they took in Tyreek Will and you

1235
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 4: know he was a steep discount relative to where he

1236
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 4: should have gone given like the athletic freakiness that he has. Right,

1237
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: So I would say they were great last year. This year,

1238
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 4: I think they got Jackson Smith and Jigba at a discount.

1239
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: But after that they didn't take their death guys at

1240
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: a strong count, so not quite as strong as what

1241
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: we saw last year. So like last year, they went unorthodox,

1242
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 4: but they did it add a value. This year, they

1243
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 4: went unorthodox after round one and it wasn't so much

1244
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 4: to the value.

1245
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: I was going to the Rams.

1246
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: Uh, they don't pick until round two. They go Steve Avila,

1247
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: the Guard out of TCU. Where did you think of

1248
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: their quest?

1249
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? I like it. Villa you know, went high in

1250
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 4: the second round. People talked about him as like a

1251
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 4: a mauling force and he can play center too, so

1252
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: there's some versatility there with him. Uh. And then after

1253
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: that in the third round, Tennessee edge rusher Byron Young.

1254
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 4: I think he's a pretty good pick there. And then

1255
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 4: later wide receiver Puka Nakua fifth round or out of BYU.

1256
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 4: I think they actually got him at some value. And

1257
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 4: then the sixth round quarterback Trevius Hodges Tomlinson out of

1258
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 4: tv TCU. You know, there was some some talk that

1259
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 4: maybe he could have gone you know, like third round,

1260
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 4: fourth round, So getting him in the sixth round. He's

1261
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 4: a smaller guy, but I'm I mean, I would say,

1262
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 4: like he's sort of like the discount Devin Witherspoon, like

1263
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 4: smaller guy, but you know, he plays pretty tight. So

1264
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 4: I like those picks. They made a ton of picks,

1265
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 4: but they don't they didn't have a first round or

1266
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 4: you know, I'm giving them a C plus. Like it

1267
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 4: wasn't a terrible draft, but outside of the few players

1268
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 4: I mentioned, I feel like they didn't really do much

1269
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: to really improve their situation. Actually, one guy I do

1270
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: want to add a Mississippi running back, Zach Evans. They

1271
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 4: took him in the sixth round. He was a I

1272
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 4: believe a five star recruit, four star at the lowest

1273
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 4: I believe five star recruit who went to TCU, played

1274
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 4: there for a couple of years, and then transferred to Mississippi.

1275
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 4: I think there's a chance that he actually becomes their

1276
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: starting running back, and so to get someone like that

1277
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 4: in the sixth round, I think, you know, that's good value.

1278
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 4: But you know, we'll just kind of see across the board.

1279
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 4: There wasn't anything that was hugely impact.

1280
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the Rams end up having

1281
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 3: a sneaky good draft, but you know, it's just it's

1282
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: a matter of some of those swings sitting late because

1283
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: you know, they don't have those premium picks. And then

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Speaker 3: the Niners are kind of in that same boat where

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Speaker 3: they don't have the premium picks, you know, because they've

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Speaker 3: been trading trading them away.

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Speaker 1: I know you did not like the Niner draft, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm giving them an f you know.

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Speaker 4: Uh, and it's it's not just because they took a

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Speaker 4: kicker in the third round, but it pretty much is

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Speaker 4: like that's like that that's like sign and symbol of

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Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine ers and the way that

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Speaker 4: they have drafted this year and in previous seasons. You

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Speaker 4: know j Comody, the kicker from Michigan that they took

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Speaker 4: a pick number ninety nine overall, I mean why, like

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Speaker 4: it is so hard to predict how any kicker is

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Speaker 4: going to do in the NFL before he gets here,

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Speaker 4: you know, like Roberto AGUAYI like remember the Bucks took

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Speaker 4: him in the second Like it's it's just a total

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Speaker 4: waste of draft capital. And when you don't have your

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Speaker 4: first or second rounders because of the Trey Lance trade

1302
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 4: and then you know, adding Christian McCaffrey into the mix,

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Speaker 4: you got to make sure that your picks in the

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Speaker 4: third round are actually spent on something that matters. And

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Speaker 4: you know, kickers, like, yes, like they matter, but you

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01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 4: can't predict which kicker is going to do well before

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Speaker 4: he gets into the NFL. So like you shouldn't invest

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Speaker 4: that type of draft capital into them. And you know

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Speaker 4: they're they're picked before that Penn State safety Giantir Brown,

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Speaker 4: Like he's okay, but like he's a bigger guy who's

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Speaker 4: not that fast, Like they might end up just getting

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Speaker 4: special team usage out of him. And then their third

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Speaker 4: third round pick, pick one oh one, Alabama tight end

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Speaker 4: Cameron law To, who's like fine, but like this was

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Speaker 4: a great tight end class. There was still like really

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Speaker 4: good tight end available on board, and you took a

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Speaker 4: guy who's probably going to be at best a number

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Speaker 4: two tight end for you after George Kittle, and like

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Speaker 4: it's not as if this guy will be a strong

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Speaker 4: number two tight end. So this was just not a

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Speaker 4: good class top to bottom. And like when you take

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Speaker 4: into account that Trey Lance is still technically part of

1323
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Speaker 4: this draft class because you invested a first rounder in

1324
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 4: him and you're like thinking about maybe trading him, Like

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Speaker 4: this is just a total f Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the one thing I'll say about the Niners

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01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,959
Speaker 3: is they have found some some diamonds in the rough

1328
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Speaker 3: later in the draft, and they did make quite a

1329
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Speaker 3: few Day three picks, so we'll see if they unearthed anybody.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, it was just a combination of

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01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 3: not having a lot of capital and then using it

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Speaker 3: very questionably the capital that they the premium capital that

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Speaker 3: they did have, you know, on day two in that

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Speaker 3: third round. So yeah, it was it was an odd

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Speaker 3: draft for them. And you know, that's why I think

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Speaker 3: Seattle's probably would have undervalued here because I think San

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Speaker 3: Francisco kind of peaked last year. I don't, you know,

1338
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Speaker 3: as good as you know, as good as they were,

1339
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Speaker 3: like as good as they still look on paper at

1340
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Speaker 3: some spots, I don't think it's gonna be hard to

1341
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Speaker 3: kind of outdo what they did last year, atleast in

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Speaker 3: the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a non zero chance that San Francisco

1345
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 4: starts Sam Darnold at some point.

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Speaker 1: This exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, all right man, Well thanks again for

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Speaker 3: joining us. Matt wyt't you tell the people where they

1349
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: can find you and what's your up to.

1350
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can find all the work at Fantasy

1351
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 4: Pros and Betting Pros. You can follow me on Twitter

1352
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 4: at Matt f the Oracle, and you know, just starting

1353
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Speaker 4: to get into some of the other sports. I'm gonna

1354
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 4: do some projections for playoff hockey for all the for

1355
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 4: player props you know, I did that a few years

1356
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 4: ago when I was at Action and you know that

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Speaker 4: went well. So you're going to get back in those

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Speaker 4: streets a little bit and you know, just gonna start

1359
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Speaker 4: to look a little bit more towards the NFL season,

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Speaker 4: so you know, start to you know, build out like

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Speaker 4: all of my projections for the rosters and everything like that.

1362
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Speaker 4: But you're going to take a little bit of down

1363
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 4: time to relax and then just you know, get back

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Speaker 4: in the NFL projection streets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean you deserve it, man, You've been

1366
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: crushing it great. Follow on Twitter at mattaw the Oracle

1367
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Speaker 3: as mentioned, and I'm over there at Chris raefon same

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Speaker 3: handles on the app as well. And if you have

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Speaker 3: not checked out, our AFC Draft Rais episode is out

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Speaker 3: right now with Matthew.

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Speaker 1: Friedman, go check that out as well.

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