1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: The volume. Well, I've said it before, Fubo is one 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: of my favorite ways to watch sports, College basketball, NBA. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what the sport is. Fubo TV delivers. 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: I watch it constantly on airplanes, if I'm in my 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: car and I'm driving and I want to stay up 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: to date in the game. FuboTV dot Com slash Colin. 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: You will get fifty dollars off for two months of 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Fubo TV, and the Masters is going to be on it. 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball is going to be on it. It's 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: just in my life. 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As we 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: get very close to the playoffs, the young teams OKAC 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: and Houston still playing their ass off, and the old 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: teams are resting and reducing minutes, so you get you know, 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: March is such a weird month for the NBA as 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: you watch college basketball and playing a Walt of this passion. 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: I want to start with a little college basketball. So 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, the minute Michigan State got down ten, it's 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: over because they can't shoot threes. They're like three hundred 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: and eighteenth on field goals made, three pointers made, Like 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: it's over. But all four teams are great defensive teams. Houston, Duke, Auburn, Florida. 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: In my take is, you have to be in college basketball. 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Even Saint John's has no shooters. So the truth is 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: in the game. Like when you watch Duke, you're like, oh, yeah, 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: that's Cooper Flag could play in the NBA right now 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: at eighteen, Like he's that good. Not Lebron good at eighteen, 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: but he's really really good. Any big takeaway from college basketball, 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I've never understood why college basketball fans want less talented 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: teams in the Final four. They all root for Cinderella, 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I was supposed to be bummed out 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: because Duke and Houston are playing, Like, what are we 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: talking about here? 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Any thoughts from you? 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 3: The problem is is that to your point, in order 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: to go on a deep run in the tournament, you 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: have to be great on defense. Yes, and the skill 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: level is just so dramatically low compared to the NBA 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: that when the high level defense is played, it's really 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: hard to create shots. Honestly, it was one of the 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: few reasons why I was actually a little optimistic about 45 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: Arizona going into this tournament, as I was like, oh, 46 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: Caleb Love is a grown up who can score, and 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: they're great defense, and if they pair those two together, 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: they can make some noise. Cooper Flag has been fun, 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: you know, Colin. I was talking with Josh Goldman before 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: the show today and he was like, Hey, let's talk 51 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: a little Cooper Flag. And so I was watching some 52 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: film of him from the tournament, and you know, the 53 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: guy he actually kind of reminds me of, and I 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: mean this sincerely as a compliment, is Jason Tatum. He 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: projects to be a big, strong forward at his position 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: who has a ton of attributes, none of which are 57 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 3: like eye popping, Like he's a good athlete, but he's 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 3: not this earth shattering athlete. He's got a good first step, 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: not a great first step. He protects to be a 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: good shooter, not an elite shooter. He can do stuff 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 3: on the ball, but he can also operate like he 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: did against Arizona as a screen and rollfeck for a while. 63 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: He just is super versatile and can do all these 64 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: different things, and I think of him as that type 65 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 3: of player with almost a little bit more upside, just 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: simply because I think that Cooper Flag's motor runs hotter 67 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: than a guy like Tatum who can can kind of 68 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: lack that from time to time, but overall, like I 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: was watching him and it's just one of those like 70 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: no brainer type of draft picks where it's like there's 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: no like giant red Flag that would get you off 72 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: of him. I look at him as just a shoe in, 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: you know, fifteen to twenty year All star type of pro. 74 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: This is what I have said. 75 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: I think he's Jason Tatum with a little nastiness to him. 76 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: He likes to finish. 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: He'll be a better finisher early in his career. Tatum 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: sometimes now, not this year necessarily, but there are times 79 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: in Tatum's career He's let the game come to him 80 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: and Cooper's more aggressive. Cooper's gonna take the game to you, 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: and he's and even in college where even Michael Jordan 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: in college, you know, you play within the system. You 83 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: have the coach and the brand. Cooper will take it over. 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: Cooper on a break will be like, I'm gonna take this. 85 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: And I mean there's even the story about Jason Tatum's 86 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: dad saying, yeah, I wish my son, you know, played 87 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: with a little more edge. But I look at Cooper 88 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: flag as a B plus at everything, a minus at everything. 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Nothing is wow. Now I do think Jason Tatum there 90 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: are some things now he's getting close to a material. 91 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: First of all, his durability. He's hurt recently, He's never hurt. 92 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: He's got I mean, the guy just plays a lot 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: of minutes, a lot of games, and he plays hard 94 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: all the time. And I do think Jason Tatum has 95 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: heard people criticize him about kind of an apathy at 96 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: times in big moments, and I think he's corse correct that. 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: I think he's been more aggressive this year when I've 98 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: watched him, So I think he's been This's the best 99 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum I've seen. But it's exciting. I've said this before. 100 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: I love the NBA so obviously dur in the football season, 101 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: I don't talk it much, but by late January I 102 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: start watching. By mid February, I'm watching every night. And 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: my take is what we need is more great players 104 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: ready to play out of big, big college brands. I 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: think the NBA thought they could do it themselves for 106 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: the G League and then they kind of realize, you know, 107 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 1: college basketball is really popular, especially in March. 108 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: And I've said this before. 109 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: You go make three hundred thousand in the G League 110 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: or get three million dollars in marketing playing for North Carolina, 111 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: Arizona or Duke. 112 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: Take the marketing. 113 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, those guys have chefs, all of them, 114 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Gonzaga chefs, swag twenty pair of shoes like it's it's 115 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: a pretty good life in college. It may not be 116 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: as good as the G League, but I would argue 117 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: Duke's campus and what you get from the coaching down 118 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: the sh is just as good as the G League 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: for one year. Then it's exponentially better because of all 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: the marketing. We don't know who Zion is without Duke, 121 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: I have no idea. So I think I think college 122 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: basketball fortifying the NBA helps. I mean, let's be honest. 123 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: The reason I mean NFL has these college legends. Baker 124 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: Mayfield is a brand the minute he lands like they 125 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: was pretty rare that Zion was a brand day one. 126 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean, NFL gives you about three of those a year, 127 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: four of those a year quarterbacks. You're like, oh, yeah, 128 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: I know all about the cam Ward and Shader Sanders. 129 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: They're brands right now, they'll sell tomorrow. So I think 130 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I made a mistake. I overthought it. I took Arizona 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: beating Duke. I think Duke's gonna win it though, anybody 132 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: you like. 133 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: I would say Houston's looked really good. I've been disconnected 134 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: from college hoops relative to most people because I just 135 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: dive headlong into the NBA. That's it. Yeah, I would 136 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: say Duke or I like the point you made about 137 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: about Tatum and his durability. I saw that clip going 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: around social media while I was traveling this weekend, and 139 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you emphasized that, because that, to me, 140 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: is becoming such an underrated element in this era as 141 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: everyone's trying to grind through the regular season and all 142 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: these teams are so good, you know. I look. I 143 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: was listening to Pete and Darius from Laker Film Room 144 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: while I was on my plane today and they were 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: talking about last week's games, and they were talking about 146 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: how in the future as the Lakers are planning for 147 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: what they're going to be doing. They need to bank on, 148 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: you know, Lebron and Luca both missing twenty games. Yes, 149 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: And when they said that, I was sitting there thinking, 150 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: I was like, it's insane that, Like Luca is going 151 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: to be twenty six next year, and we it feels 152 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: like a safe bet that he's going to miss somewhere 153 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: between fifteen and twenty games, like that's a fourth of 154 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: the season and that, and it makes it so much 155 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: harder night in and night out. I mean, look at 156 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: the injuries in the way the Lakers spiraled under the 157 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: injuries to their front court over the last couple of weeks. 158 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: And so again when you're looking at Tatum, I think 159 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: Jokich is another great example of this. I think Shake 160 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: Gilders Alexander is another example of this. The dudes where 161 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: you can book them for seventy five plus games, they 162 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: just give you such a high floor as you go 163 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: through the regular season, and I think it is definitely 164 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: an underrated trade. But I've enjoyed watching the college hoops, 165 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: you know, in the casinos and stuff as I'm walking 166 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: around Vegas this last weekend. The intensity is just another level. 167 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: You mentioned it as like a breeding ground for like 168 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: big personalities in the NBA. I also just think of 169 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: it as just a great place for a basketball player 170 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: to develop. You know, one of the things we talked 171 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: about the playoffs is like, oh, the refs make it 172 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: more physical. It's not that the players make it more physical. 173 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: Everything's on the line. Finally, for eighty two games, they're 174 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: just getting through it, and then you put the Larry 175 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: O'Brien on the line and you have to win those games. 176 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: They rotate, they're in help side defense, they're making all 177 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: these efforts that are inconsistent in the regular season. You 178 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: want to know why college basketball looks so ugly. Sometimes 179 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: they're incredibly well coached and they play every possession like 180 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: it's the last possession they're ever going to play. So 181 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 3: you see these loaded up help side defenses, the rotations, 182 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: there's everything that looks like in open three, the dude's 183 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 3: sprinting at him like it's his final close out he's 184 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: ever going to throw in his life. And I just 185 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: think that's a great spot for a basketball player to 186 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: learn how to process information and make reads and re 187 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: see the floor. How are they sped up or can 188 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: they slow down? And thrive in that environment. For the record, 189 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: like Cooper's just thriving, Like that's a good Arizona defense. 190 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: That was throwing the kitchen sink at him and he 191 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: was cooking them. And I just think I think it's 192 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: a great I think it's just a great part, a 193 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 3: fundamental part of basketball player development. And that's why I 194 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: would like to see that maintained over the years. 195 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean as a parent my kids going to college, 196 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: I said, guys, I don't you're both great students. You 197 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: got some scholarship money. I don't care if you're be 198 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: students in college. Like high school's weirdly more important than college. 199 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: You have to get into college, I said. Once you 200 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: get to college, go to a party, you know, you 201 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: have friends sleep in. I'm like, you know, it's so 202 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: I feel like like college for players for a year 203 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: or two, it's like that you're gonna you're gonna you're 204 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: gonna connect with people you would have never met anywhere 205 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: else in the world. You're gonna have a couple of 206 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: international guys. You know, you're gonna have a couple seniors. 207 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: Somebody on the coaching staff's gonna yell at you. It's 208 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: it's you know, the G League. Everybody's going in the 209 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: same direction. There's guys on even like Kentucky's college team, 210 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: they're not playing they're going international, they're not playing in 211 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: the pros. So I just I love the idea for 212 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: a couple of years. I just think college was so 213 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: valuable for me, and I love to see high school players. 214 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: Nothing against Jalen Green's journey, but I love the idea 215 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: of going to college for Cooper Flag And it's just like, 216 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: you know, you're part of something like your Duke basketball, 217 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: You're part of something you know you go play for, 218 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: you know, the El Segundo G League team that's basically 219 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: that's an apartment called complex. Everybody's trying to get out 220 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: of it as fast as they can, right whereas college 221 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: is a little bit more like a house, like for 222 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: a lot of players, you know, they get to Duke and. 223 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to leave. 224 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: They're not playing in the NBA many this is a 225 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: home in a neighborhood, in a community. So I just 226 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: I've always loved college basketball. It's a little bit of 227 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: a turnstyle now, so it's harder to follow than the NBA. 228 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: You can't, you know, except for a Duke or an Auburn. 229 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to name multiple players. I do 230 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about something though, about you know that 231 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: there was a comment I thought was interesting. Lebron was 232 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: on a podcast or a show and he talked about, 233 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, Jannis would have scored two hundred and fifty. 234 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: Points back in the seventies. 235 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: And I laughed because I thought, no, because they'd found 236 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: him and he can't hit free throws, so it wouldn't work. 237 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: But you know, it's interesting because I grew up with 238 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: the seventies basketball and I loved it, and I do 239 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: think sometimes, you know, the players set in nineteen seventy 240 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: three have grown half an inch. The NBA was big 241 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: and athletic then. Now nutrition's better, travels better, But it 242 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: was I didn't love Lebron saying that I was like Lebron. 243 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Wilt and Jerry West played in the seventies, Doctor j 244 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: played in the seventies. Bill Walton played in the seventies. 245 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why it didn't bother me, but it 246 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: was one of those I heard it and I thought, no, honest, now, 247 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: you honest man have averaged forty but he can't shoot 248 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: like he can't shoot. What did you make of that 249 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: comment and your thoughts about generational comparisons. 250 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: Well, that for that exact reason, like you mentioned the size, 251 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 3: if it was not just size back then, spacing was 252 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: poor back then, and in general, like Giannis would have 253 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: been running into a lot of bodies. That said, I 254 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: firmly believe Jianness would average forty forty five if you 255 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: played in that era, just simply because it would be 256 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 3: like a man amongst boys in terms of the athletes 257 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: that he'd be competing with. I just a couple things. 258 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: I don't see any point in comparing era to era 259 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: in general. I mean, like we talked about the seventies 260 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: like it was not that long as fifty years ago 261 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: now like it's a half century ago. And in general, 262 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: there's just been so many changes schematically, there's been so 263 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: many changes in player development and the skill. Like you know, 264 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: what's always so funny to me when you go back 265 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 3: and you watch basketball players in the sixties and seventies, 266 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: the jump shots are all weird looking. And one of 267 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: the reasons why the jump shots are all weird looking 268 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: is they didn't get to go on YouTube or go 269 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: turn on the TV and watch their favorite players play 270 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: when they were kids. They taught themselves out of shoot. 271 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: Everyone today kind of shoots more or less the same 272 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: type of jump shot, and yeah, some people look weird, 273 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: but most people should shoot the same. 274 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: Sort of The shame of golf swings, by the way, 275 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: the unique golf swing is over. 276 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: Exactly because now it's been optimized. We've optimized it. Now 277 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: you reach your hand in to the cookie jar, you 278 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: start from the legs. No wasted motion. We don't want 279 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: to hitch in the shot, you know. And so it's 280 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 3: one of those things where like we've just perfected this 281 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 3: sport in so many different ways, and you know, one 282 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 3: of the things that I disc like about it, and 283 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: it kind of goes back to what we talked about 284 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: when we were talking about Stephen A. Smith a couple 285 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: of weeks ago. But when you I don't believe in 286 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: stooping down to that level you, by the way, are 287 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: you have a saying that you've used over the years 288 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 3: that I've loved You said, I can have an opinion, 289 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: and you can have an opinion on my opinion. I 290 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: don't need to have an opinion on your opinion of 291 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: my opinion, which, by the way, is like a foundational 292 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: thing that I lean on what I'm doing, what I 293 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: do too, And like one of the big things that 294 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: I look at there is like, Okay, Lebron, you're playing basketball. Okay, 295 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: these old guys are trashing your era. What good does 296 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: it do to then step in and then be disrespectful 297 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: to their era? That doesn't serve a purpose. In my opinion, 298 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: it kind of is it's stooping to that level. It 299 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: doesn't forward the conversation. And like from that same point, 300 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: I feel like Lebron is just shouldn't be the guy 301 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: sending that type of message that he's trying to send. 302 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: That said, like, I think in general, Lebron's just sick 303 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: and tired of getting criticized by like the MJ clan, 304 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: the throwback like the old League was better type of clan. 305 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: And I think he's just sick of it, and I 306 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: think he's acting out. 307 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: When it comes to college basketball in March Mania, one 308 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,239 Speaker 1: thing's for sure, nothing is for sure, doesn't matter, buzzer beaters, 309 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: Cinderella's advancing upsets, It's all gonna happen. 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Four additional 329 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: terms and responsible gaming resources see dkang, dot co, slash audio. 330 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: You Know it's I had a commentary this weekend that 331 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: I do essays on Sundays most most Sundays, and we 332 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: were talking about you know, lead management, overload management, and 333 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: I like SGA and and Tatum they play the regular games. 334 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: One of the things that I think is really interesting 335 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: about Tatum and the Celtics. 336 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: Is that. 337 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: And I think this is this is rare. So when 338 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: teams win a championship, so ok s in Houston and Cleveland. 339 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: I mean, these teams are this is the old Derrick 340 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Rose Bulls. Like you get the when you get the 341 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: combination of really good team playing hard, you know that 342 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: you win the sixty games. I tell you, I watch 343 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: Boston and they'll have a guy missing every night. Drew 344 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Holliday's got a bad finger, poor Zingis. I'm telling you, though, Jason, 345 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: that team plays are oursof they play hard and they 346 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: coach hard, like Missoula is still barking. It's very rare. 347 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: Once you get the ring, generally you pull back. Everybody 348 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: does rotational stuff like okay, it's your night, off your 349 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 1: night off their depth, Peyton Pritcher. The other night, I'm 350 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: watching howser jackup threes. I'm like Jesus Man Horford can 351 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: still play. I said it last year and I'll say 352 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: it again. 353 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: I just I don't. 354 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: Remember an NBA team that deep, like Denver a couple 355 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: of years ago with their title, when they had everybody 356 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: KCP Brown that team, You're like, Okay, they got eight dudes, 357 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 1: I trust to hit a shot and then quickly, you know, 358 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: quickly all the aprons they're moving off. 359 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: Guys. 360 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: I know everybody likes Cleveland, and okase, I don't think 361 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: anybody beats Boston because there is no switch they need 362 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: to click. They're intense. I mean, I'll watch them play. 363 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: They will jump out to huge leads against the Knicks 364 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. They will go toe to toe. 365 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: They'll go into a bad team and blow them out. 366 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: It'll be forty twenty four early. Do you think they stumble? 367 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: I mean, what is your take on them? 368 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: So I think that they're vulnerable in the same way 369 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 3: that everybody in the top tier is vulnerable. To a 370 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: certain extent. Cleveland has started to show some limitations over 371 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: the course of the last couple of weeks too. I 372 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: don't think anybody's unbeatable, but I have never wavered from 373 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: Boston as my favorite this year. You've been really keyed 374 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: in on this lately, and I think it's really smart, 375 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 3: which is that there is a difference between a rotation 376 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: of a bunch of young twenty year olds navigating the 377 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 3: NBA season versus a bunch of dudes in their late 378 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: twenties and early thirties. It's a fundamental difference, and just 379 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 3: the level of urgency every single day. I think there's 380 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: the obvious talent conundrum they present to teams, which is 381 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: they just have way more good players than most teams. 382 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: But I also think that it's time that we acknowledge 383 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: Boston organizationally, from the top down, is the most well run. 384 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: Because yes, you've got willingness to spend, a front office 385 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: led by Brad Stevens that is obsessed with finding guys 386 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: that can dribble, shoot, pass, and defend. It's like a 387 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: mandatory foursome for him to consider you as an investment 388 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: for the franchise, a coaching staff that has built a 389 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 3: drive and kick scheme, and really a culture that is 390 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 3: all about pursuing the great shot over the good shot. 391 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: And then you've got the players that are all bought 392 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: into it. And so it's from the top down and 393 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why I think that's so impressive. 394 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 3: One of the ways that manifested I thought was that 395 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: ass kicking that they delivered the other night. Without Jason Tatum. 396 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: You get a group of guys without Jason Tatum going 397 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: on the road into Phoenix against a really good and 398 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: a Sun's team that was playing good basketball, not a 399 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: really good team. I watched that, but they were Yeah, 400 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: they were like I think four and one in the 401 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: previous five. The Suns are the classic like We're gonna 402 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 3: try hard for a week or two, but then we 403 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: realize we don't have enough horses, so we just let 404 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: go the bro. But in that game, you can see 405 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: them just playing a style of basketball which is like 406 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: modern four out one in driving kickspacing basketball, which requires 407 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: incrementally breaking down the defense. So Jalen Brown identifies where 408 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 3: the advantages, kicks it to a guy who's open. Once 409 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: that guy's open, his job is not to shoot necessarily. 410 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: His job is to drive the clothes out to get 411 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: past the guy going at him, draw another helper, and 412 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: you incrementally break down the defense until you get these 413 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: unbelievable wide open shots. And what was so funny about 414 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: that game is it was almost like, oh, Tatum's out, 415 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: We're not going to be able to lean on individual 416 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: greatness as much tonight. Let's play Celtic's basketball. And that's 417 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: the key. They have Celtics basketball separate from Jason Tatum. 418 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: Jason Tatum fits into Celtic's basket ball and he makes 419 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: it better. He's a force multiplier for Celtics basketball. But 420 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: Celtics basketball is about an organizational approach, starting with Brad 421 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 3: Stevens all the way down in the willingness to play 422 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: for each other in a driving kick scheme, to get 423 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 3: great shots, in the willingness to defend and all of 424 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: that is part of what makes the Celtics the Celtics. 425 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: And that's what you want to know why a team 426 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: has sustained success, meaning the Celtics team that has been 427 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: a threat in the Eastern Conference for my entire life 428 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: as an adult, like dating back to before the Paul 429 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: Pearson Kevin Garnett partnership with Ray Allen, so like, they 430 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: have a culture that has been established and it's the 431 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: only way to have sustain success in the NBA. I 432 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: think it's super super impressive. 433 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, It's interesting. The other day I was 434 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: saying about Okay, See, I'm like, I know they're gonna 435 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: win into some series. 436 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: I know they're really good. 437 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm not doubting that brilliant GM. I don't think SGA 438 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: will quite get that whistle in the postseason, but he'll 439 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: get a whistle if chet Holngren's healthy. They've got some 440 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: offensive options. I do worry about their young players in 441 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: big road games. You know, everything changes. No sport in 442 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: our country changes more from regular season to postseason. I mean, 443 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm watching here today. You got to fight in the 444 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: NBA Missa's coaches, and you're getting feisty now in playoff seating, 445 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: and it's like it changes the game. It's an outside 446 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: of the COVID year men win in the playoffs. Young 447 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: men can do really well in the regular season. But 448 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: the one thing about Oklahoma City, Tom Tolbert texted me 449 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: when I was talking about him, he goes, they lead 450 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: the NBA and assists, or they lead the NBA in 451 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: creating turnovers, but have the fewest turnovers. They just are 452 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: really really efficient. They don't turn it over and they 453 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: force turnovers. Is there, like, I don't think Golden State 454 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: could beat Okay See, I think Golden State would be Houston. 455 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: I don't do Houston shootings better today than three months ago. 456 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: I still don't trust them in a big playoffs spot. 457 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City to me is they're like Cleveland the last 458 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: couple years. They're gonna win playoff series. They're just too good. 459 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: They got too many good players, too good of a coach. 460 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: Go deep dive on Oklahoma City. And because I look 461 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: at them and I think they have two or three 462 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: things that really matter. 463 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: They're well coached. 464 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: A dominant score so they know layden games in a 465 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: playoff game, here's where the ball goes. 466 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: That is so important. 467 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: The great teams all have that. Denver had it with Jokic, 468 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: and generally, like the Spurs, you'll have a second guy 469 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: in Tony Parker. If Duncan gets doubled, it's great to 470 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: have too. And if home Groun's healthy, I trust him 471 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: at a big spot hitting a shot. 472 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 2: He's a great player. 473 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: So they have an identifiable star and a co star. 474 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: They're well coached, they play real defense. They're not they're young, 475 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: but they're not inexperienced like these guys have played in 476 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: big colleges, big big moments. I think they're a Western 477 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: Conference finals team. 478 00:23:59,440 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: I don't. 479 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I would take the Lakers over them, and 480 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm being a homer. I would 481 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: just take Lebron and Luca and the possessions and a 482 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: half and a game. What do you think their journey 483 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: looks like in the postseason. 484 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: So their defense, I'm one hundred percent sold on will 485 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: perform really well. The only team that I'm worried about 486 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: them defensively against is the Lakers because Lebron and Luca 487 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: attacking their smaller perimeter players. The Oklahoma City's defense is 488 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: nearly perfectly constructed. They're incredibly fast on the perimeter, and 489 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: Mark Daganol has built their scheme towards forward aggression and 490 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 3: passing lanes to try to build to force turnovers. It's 491 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: optimized towards the type of personnel they have. They also 492 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: have rim protection in chet Holmgren, which is a very 493 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 3: important part of success in the playoffs. And then they 494 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 3: have a couple of different types of defenders that are 495 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: especially valuable. So, for instance, Lou Dort is one of 496 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 3: the very best guys in the league that you can 497 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 3: throw against a big star forward and like, there's just 498 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: so many of them in the Western conferen is. Whether 499 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: it's Luca and Lebron, or it's literally Kawhi Leonard, or 500 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 3: it's Kevin Durant, whoever it's your playing, there's all these 501 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: star forwards. He's a great option. Isaia Hartenstein has kind 502 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: of come to the surface as like a guy they 503 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 3: use for the bigger power players, and he's had a 504 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 3: lot of success either way. 505 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: The Knicks have missed him defensively, no question. 506 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, his ability to defend in a bunch of different 507 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: types of coverages, but specifically to handle the big, strong, 508 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: bullyball types of players has been a huge asset to 509 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: that Thunder defense. The only weakness I see in the 510 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: Thunder defense is size as an aggregate thing, particularly on 511 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: the perimeter, and it manifests in bad defensive rebounding, which 512 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: has been a consistent thing they've struggled with over the years. 513 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: And then that's where I can see some vulnerability where 514 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, you put lou dord on Luca, great, 515 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 3: who's guarding Lebron. There's just nobody else on the roster 516 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: that can make Lebron feel really all that uncomfortable. So 517 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 3: I think that's what we're saying. The offensive end is 518 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: where I see some cracks in the armor, in the 519 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: sense that they thrive in transition off the strength of 520 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 3: their defense. But what happens if there's a team that 521 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: takes really good care of the basketball and controls pace 522 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 3: and keeps Okay see trapped in the half court and 523 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: it's a big, high leverage playoff series where you need 524 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: j Dubb and Chet and Dort and these guys to 525 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: be effective offensively. And again, I want to be clear, 526 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to nitpick here because we are. I 527 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 3: should be clear we are nitpicking here because this is 528 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: the one seed in the Western Conference. As I agree 529 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 3: with you, I would be stunned if they didn't make 530 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: it to the conference finals. But in the conference finals context, 531 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: if they faced a Denver or a Lakers, I think 532 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: it's at least worth mentioning that those teams would be 533 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: dramatically more experienced and dramatically bigger on the perimeter. One 534 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 3: last thing I'll say about it, they do rely heavily 535 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 3: on Shay Gilders Alexander pull up shooting when things go 536 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: south for them offensively. In those situations, I like a 537 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: team of a bunch of six' eight six y nine 538 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 3: guys that have long arms to, contest and that's something 539 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 3: WHERE i could see that being a valuable of. Value 540 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: SO i think they deserve to be the. Favorite but, 541 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 3: Yeah i'm with you to where like IF i saw 542 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 3: The lakers in The thunder about to play in A 543 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: Western conference, finals it'd be really hard for me to 544 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: not pick A. A. 545 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah it's interesting because The lakers are the rare team 546 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't have a dominant, center but they're actually big and. Long, 547 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah ruey, Everywhere Jackson, hayes everybody's big and, long Even 548 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: Austin reeves. Is and they're also very comfortable offensively with. 549 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: Contact Austin, Lebron luca Like. Ruey they like. Contact they're 550 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: a team that you could see in playoff games getting 551 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: to the line a. Lot you know WHAT i found, 552 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: Interesting And i've always Liked Austin. Reeves my argument is 553 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: you can't win a championship if he's your. Two i'm 554 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: not sure you. Can if he's a, three you're absolutely 555 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: an excellent team if he's a. Four so he's a 556 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: three on this. Team but it was interesting When luca. 557 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: CAME i thought oh, boy is he gonna get as many. 558 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: Touches it's weird The luca Because Luca's lebron's a great. 559 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: Pastor luca is very good at getting the ball. Ahead 560 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: SOMETIMES i think he does. It so this is my 561 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: thing With. Luca SOMETIMES i think he's one of the 562 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: Great he And, jokic they're great down the court, passers 563 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: they are great. Quarterbacks Sometimes i'm, Like luca just doesn't 564 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: want to defend These like you, Guys i'm gonna get 565 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: the ball up the. Floor it's too far for me 566 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: to lack this go, ahead take the. Play and that's 567 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: my you, Know and that's kind of My luca criticism 568 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: is that he's a defense is more of a hobby 569 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: than it, is you, know a. 570 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 2: Vocation But. 571 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: Austin, reeves this has been the most impressive he's been 572 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: to me BECAUSE i honestly think With Anthony davis sometimes 573 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: there was a sense AND i could be wrong in, This, 574 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: jason but there was a sense sometimes slow it, down 575 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: we got a big let's use. Him this is an 576 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: opportunity For lebron in this half court. Set let's get 577 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: it To Anthony. Davis and With luca And, lebron the 578 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: tempo feels like really plays Into austin's game Because austin's 579 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: good pass story likes, contact he likes the, ball he 580 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: can play off, ball he, moves AND i feel strangely 581 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: THAT i Thought luca would be a net. NEGATIVE i 582 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: feel like it Makes austin. Better it's almost like there's 583 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: there are Times, luca especially after he set a couple of, 584 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: baskets not that he takes the total possession, off. 585 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: But he likes. It he conserves. 586 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: ENERGY i see that With lebron And lucas, Sometimes hey, 587 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: kid this is this is your. Possession BUT i feel 588 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: LIKE i this is the Best austin. Ipes i'm not 589 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: sure if the efficiency ratings say, it BUT i feel 590 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: like this is the most free he's. 591 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: Played, no he's been. 592 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: Excellent he's averaging in his last ten games over twenty 593 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: seven points per game on over sixty seven percent true, 594 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: shooting which is. Insane that's just field goal percentage waited 595 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: for threes In for. 596 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: Some of that is, mental like he feels like it's his, possession. 597 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: Right, oh, absolutely there's there's a certain amount Of lebron's 598 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: injury having been good for The lakers to help those 599 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: guys get in a. Rhythm austin had been dealing with 600 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: a calf injury IF i remember, correctly that he had 601 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: just come back from and Then luca obviously had missed 602 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: a good chunk of the, season and so both of 603 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: those guys were a little out of rhythm in The 604 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: celtics game in, particular Like austin And luca were both 605 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: bad in The celtics game up until Like luca put 606 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: up a big box, score but most of that was 607 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: later in the. Game so like those, two When lebron was, 608 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: out had an opportunity to really just get tons of 609 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: touches and get their rhythm figured. Out and Till lebron's 610 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: credit when he's come, back he hasn't really stepped on their. 611 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: Toes and this is you, know we've talked a lot 612 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 3: About Kevin durant being a plug and play, superstar AND 613 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 3: i want to be, CLEAR i still think he's one 614 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: of the very, best maybe the best plug in play star. Ever, Well, 615 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 3: LEBRON i don't think it's enough credit for this in 616 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: the sense that Like luca And austin come with their 617 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: fair share of. Shortcomings Like austin's not a great, Athlete 618 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: luca is a bad defensive. Player most of the, Time 619 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: lebron is the guy that they can be, like, oh 620 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: we need you to, run like run the offense in this. 621 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: Stretch he can do, That, Hey austin's. COULD a great 622 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 3: example of this was The pacers game When lebron hit 623 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: the game winner in the second. Quarter lebron came out 624 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: And austin was. Cooking austin was just frying everybody on The, 625 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: pacers and so instead of co opting the, Offense lebron 626 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: just set screens for him at the top of the 627 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: key and played off Of austin and at the same, 628 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: time like up before his, injury he was playing some 629 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: of the best defense he had played in this late 630 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: phase of his. Career he's basically taking all these elements 631 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: of his game and picking and choosing how to plug 632 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: them in into what the team needs in that particular. 633 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: Game austin gets hurt in the second half of The pacers, 634 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: game isn't out there in that fourth quarter, Stretch lebron 635 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: needs to be a scorer. Again suddenly he goes out and, 636 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: scores and he gets over ten points after he had 637 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: three through the first three. Quarters like that's part Of 638 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: lebron's versatility and how it fits into this. Picture the 639 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: thing THAT i think is important to remember, too and 640 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: this is one of the most common misconceptions about how 641 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: we talk about star. Trades we, go, well there's only one, 642 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 3: ball and the reality is is that basketball as a 643 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: team sport against elite defense is about incrementally breaking down. 644 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: Defenses like we were talking about With, Boston Austin, reeves 645 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: when he catches the ball on the perimeter with the 646 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: defender closing out at him and he looks to, score 647 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: gets over one point three to five points per. Attempts 648 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: that's sky, high meaning When austin's man helps On luca 649 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: And lebron, Action austin is scoring almost every time in those. 650 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 3: Situations the beauty of what makes The lakers so difficult 651 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: to guard is that you can't really have enough resources 652 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: to account for all of, them and inevitably one of 653 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: them is going to get an, advantage And austin just 654 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: does such an amazing job attacking with those. ADVANTAGES i 655 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: think that there's no rhythm problem with those three. Guys 656 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: any issues that we have with The, LAKERS i think 657 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: should be centered around the defensive end of the. Floor rim, 658 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: protection health things along those. LINES i am zero percent 659 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: concerned About, Lebron luca And austin figuring out how to 660 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 3: work together. 661 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: Offensively the. 662 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: Play in. TOURNAMENT i don't know if it's an, imperative. 663 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: BUT i Think Golden state's better served not playing just 664 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: because They you, know you want the fewest. 665 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: Minutes But i'm gonna throw this at. 666 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: You one of the Things i've talked about And i've 667 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: text a few guys in THE nba about, this AND 668 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: i Think Chris finch has talked about this and other 669 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: players That european, players because it's all, academy come into 670 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: THE nba more skilled and a lot of times more. 671 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: Mature they've played against older, players the spotlight in their 672 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: country has been on, them and they come in, like you, 673 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: Know John moran And zion just weren't mature. Enough they 674 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: were good, enough they weren't talented, enough they weren't quite mature. 675 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: Enough and. 676 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: Ready you don't see that with international. PLAYERS i mean 677 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: sometimes they're. Boring they just come in and it's, basketball, sleep, basketball, 678 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: sleep and you, know it's. Interesting this is not a 679 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: maturity question With Jonathan, minga BUT i feel like If 680 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Jonathan kaminga would have come to us Via, europe he 681 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: would have been more skilled. Early every TIME i Watched 682 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan kamena and you may have said, THIS i think 683 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: you may have said, this And i'm digesting and consuming 684 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: a lot OF nba comment common you, know content is 685 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: that WHEN i watch The, Warriors i'm often left, Thinking, 686 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: OKAY i Like cominga's length and, ACCELERATION i like his. 687 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: Ability what is he great? At AND i Think. 688 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: European players come to the league and you can see very, quickly, 689 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: oh they're really good at, that and they're nineteen to. 690 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: Twenty Cooper flagg is the rare college player where you're, like, 691 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: man he's close to being great at a couple of. 692 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: Things he's not there. 693 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: YET i mean started the year he was seventeen At, 694 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: duke AND i Watched coming And i'm, LIKE i wouldn't 695 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: Trust coming in a playoff series IF i needed, HIM 696 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: i just. Wouldn't AND i think key to me is 697 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: the classic domestic player, issue which is we all know he's, long, 698 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: athletic he works, Hard he's gotten, better SO i know 699 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: it's don a work ethic Thing. Jason he, gets he 700 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: gets incrementally better every. Year what is he as a? 701 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: Player CAN i trust him in a big series Against, 702 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: okay seeing IF i can trust him to do? 703 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: WHAT i don't trust. HIM i don't think The warriors trust. 704 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,479 Speaker 3: HIM i think he's gonna GET i think he's gonna 705 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 3: get some dnps when we get into the. POSTSEASON i 706 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 3: think that's on the. TABLE i don't think he'll be 707 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: like a game one. THING i think they'll throw him 708 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: out there and see how he, does because he has 709 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 3: enough of an athletic upside to, where, LIKE i, mean 710 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: you could throw him out there In game one in 711 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: a late first quarter stretch and he could get eight 712 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: points in three. Minutes you, Know like he's got quite short. 713 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 3: Upside SO i THINK i Think Steve kerr will try. 714 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 3: Him BUT i think there's a chance that you, see 715 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 3: like a game four series two to, One Golden state 716 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: needs one that you get A dnp from, Commandity. 717 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: Jason it's year. Four you can't have. 718 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: That on one, LEVEL i feel bad for him because 719 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: two weeks before the trade, deadline it looked like The 720 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 3: warriors might not do, anything and it was like here's your, Chance, 721 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: kaminga like we're about to go the other way and 722 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: like move on to the next. Era you're gonna get the, 723 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: Keys you're gonna get all this. Opportunity, nope they make 724 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 3: The jimmy, trade and to make matters, worse While Jonathan 725 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 3: kaminga is, out they win a bunch of. Games so 726 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 3: now it's like we are dead serious championship. Contending steph's 727 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 3: now saying in pressers like we got these these two, 728 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 3: years this, year next, year last chance to make all this, 729 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: happen and suddenly it goes from it was the perfect 730 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: situation For kamana to learn how to play to this 731 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: is now the worst possible situation because part of The 732 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 3: Jimmy butler trade was clearing out the. Rotation The warriors 733 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 3: had like fifteen dudes they could. Play now they have 734 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: ten or. Eleven and so as a result of, that 735 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: like all these crystallized roles, appeared Like Gary payton And Brandon. 736 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 3: Pajemski is that two next To steph Or Moses moody 737 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: as the guy who's taken on The wigans role of 738 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: guarding the other team's best players spotting up in the. 739 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: Corner kaminga has immediately when he came, back had a 740 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 3: zero percent chance of Taking moody starting. Spot moody was 741 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 3: crushing in that. Role they weren't gonna move. It so 742 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: now it becomes you've got to be a bench player 743 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: in this context on this. Team and to your point 744 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 3: about his, traits he does have an elite, trait which, 745 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 3: is if he gets a, runway he is a truly 746 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: transcendently great athlete at the. Rim there is a certain 747 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 3: amount of big picture potential for him as like AN 748 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: iso post player because some guys can't keep him in. 749 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: Front he's good at getting to the foul. Line there 750 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 3: are a couple things that he does well that project 751 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: for him when he's like twenty seven to twenty eight 752 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 3: to thirty whatever result to be a decent, player but 753 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: in this, team on This warrior's, team Alongside, Steph draymond And, 754 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 3: jimmy you have to be elite at one of two 755 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 3: things to be able to be on the floor with, 756 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: them shooting the basketball or playing read and, react like 757 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 3: mental processing of the. Game, yeah and he's terrible at, 758 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 3: both and that's a death sentence for him in this particular. 759 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: Environment so he basically gets to be like every other 760 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 3: ninth or tenth man in a playoff, rotation which is 761 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: we're going to toss you out there early in the 762 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 3: series and see if you've got a couple matchups you 763 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: can capitalize. On but if, not we're punting on, you 764 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 3: and it's going to. Be for, instance LIKE i Think 765 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: Steve kerr would trust A GhIE santos as a forward 766 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 3: who will knock down and, shots make reads in the, 767 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: offense play defense and. REBOUND i think he trusts him 768 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 3: more in a big spot than he DOES. 769 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: Kaminga, yeah with international players you sense very early what 770 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: they're very good. At they usually come in they're very good, 771 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: shooters ball handlers and. 772 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: Passers you. 773 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: Know, defensively it's real hit and miss with international. Players, 774 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: frankly it's hit and miss with. Everybody, defensively some guys 775 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: just young are great at, yeah great, early yeah and. 776 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: So BUT i Watched kaming AND i think he is 777 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: a part of THE aau domestic, issue which, is, yeah he's, long, twitchy. 778 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: Athletic you give, him you give him a little space 779 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: driving to the. Rim it's a poster just get out 780 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: of the. Way but that team has so many defined. 781 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: PLAYERS i, Mean i'll Give POD's. Credit when he came, 782 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: IN i knew immediately what he did he'd been in 783 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: college ENOUGH i knew immediately what he. Was i'm sitting 784 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: here here FOUR i think it is with coming And i'm, 785 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: like you don't have a stock. MOVE i don't really 786 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: know what you. Are AND i think you documented it, 787 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: well like the two things they. Demand you, know D'Angelo 788 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: russell's another guy in that. System like he just didn't 789 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: read and react. Well it was, like, yeah too, scurely 790 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work at. All so that, SYSTEM i 791 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: think you. Know and you see this a lot of 792 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: times in THE nfl where there are certain. Systems they 793 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: ask a lot of their players like if you can't adapt, 794 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: quickly they're not real. Patient New england was that, Way 795 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: like they gave you about a. 796 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: Year in the. 797 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: System by year, two they're not playing. Around if you 798 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: can't figure out some of the offensive stuff With, tom 799 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: they Just tom wouldn't throw you the. 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Today this part of the, 810 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: SEASON i think The lakers. 811 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 2: Have what is, it eight games, left eight or nine 812 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: games left in the regular. 813 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: Season lebron obviously has come back off the growing. Tweak 814 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: he's there feels like it's it's he's just kind of 815 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: waiting for the. PLAYOFFS i get. It there was a 816 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: honeymoon period With. LUCA i kind of look at one 817 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: of the things that disappointed me With. Luca not That 818 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: i'm a critic of, it BECAUSE i Think, dallas, though 819 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: is going to be really good next year when everybody's. 820 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: HEALTHY i really like their center. ROTATION i just think 821 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: they have now they need another shot, initiator another shot 822 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: creator Beyond. Kyrie it kind of feels like they're a 823 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: little light. There but When lebron, LEFT Jj reddick and 824 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,959 Speaker 1: a couple of different occasions, said, yeah we just didn't 825 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: communicate at, All AND i was, like you never hear 826 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: that When lebron plays, like. 827 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: You never ever hear. 828 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: That AND i and as much AS i Like, LUCA 829 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: i understand scoring is the key to the. Game but 830 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: if we sort of because his. Game he was so 831 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: brilliant early and he is so great at the most 832 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: aesthetically pleasing part of. Basketball he's not in great. Shape 833 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: he doesn't DEFEND. Jj reddick has made more than one 834 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: comment on lack of. Communication the team got blown out 835 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: several times When lebron was out And luca And austin were. 836 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: Playing they're parts of me that think we've become so 837 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: fascinated by what he can. Do but here's forty year 838 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: Old lebron and he still is the soul of the. 839 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: Team and first of, all it speaks to What lebron's. 840 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: Legacy it's it's insane what he's. 841 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 2: Doing And i'm. 842 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: Not being a Critical, luca BUT i you, KNOW i 843 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: said when he first got in, here he's a much 844 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: Better Carmelo. Anthony NOW i think he's a better passer Than. 845 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: Carmelo do you look at him with rose colored glasses 846 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: or do you now that you're seeing every minute of his, 847 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: game do you see little holes that frustrate? 848 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 3: You so you, KNOW i think rooting for a player 849 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: as someone who roots for The lakers is like the 850 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 3: best way to truly learn about a. Player and it's 851 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 3: been funny because there have been certain things that have 852 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 3: been reinforced for me About luca after watching, him and 853 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 3: then there are certain things That i've changed my perspective 854 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 3: on in the sense, that LIKE i used to be 855 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 3: kind of similar to, you WHERE i kind of viewed his, 856 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 3: heliocentric try to do everything kind of style offensively as 857 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 3: something that had some. DRAWBACKS i now view that entirely. 858 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 3: Differently lucas just an incredible offensive, player like just a 859 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 3: remarkable offensive, player and his ability to consistently compromise the 860 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 3: defense and generate these wide open catch and shoot situations 861 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 3: that guys can either drive or shoot out of it 862 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 3: is truly, remarkable and it's like a. Superpower and it's 863 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: like unlike Anything i've watched from a perimeter player in 864 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 3: my time covering the. League like his ability to prey 865 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 3: pressure the rim from the perimeter, relentlessly regardless of the 866 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: type of defender that's on, him regardless of the type of, 867 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 3: scheme is a. SUPERPOWER i think you're absolutely right That 868 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 3: lebron is the soul of the. TEAM i think a 869 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 3: lot of it stems from the fact That luca doesn't 870 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 3: really have a massive leadership type of, personality which is, 871 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 3: funny Doesn't it just. Doesn't lebron can fill that. Role to, 872 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 3: Me lebron is that. Guy AND i thought the biggest 873 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 3: way you saw that it was on, Defense like When 874 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 3: lebron went, down the defense cratered just completely. Graded and 875 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 3: by the, way a good chunk of that initial struggle 876 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 3: they had When lebron came back was for that. Reason 877 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 3: lebron came back and you could Tell lebron was not 878 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 3: quite getting the motor, running you know WHAT i. Mean 879 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 3: and there's a certain amount of that WHERE i Think 880 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 3: lebron's like that just tweaked my. Groin these guys need 881 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 3: me to Be draymond in the, playoffs so it's most 882 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 3: important for me to get from here To april eighteenth 883 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 3: in one. Piece AND i think that's the Way lebron's 884 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: looking at. It but there's no doubt That lebron is 885 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 3: like the personality leader of the, team But luke is the. 886 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 3: Firepower it's like watching The lakers over the last few, 887 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 3: years there was just this lack of consistent like when 888 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 3: you watch one of the best basketball players in the 889 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 3: world really inflict himself on a. Game it's unlike anything 890 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 3: you see in sports when you Watch jokic take over a, 891 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: game when you watch Prime lebron take over a, Game 892 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 3: luca take over a. Game they can one player on 893 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 3: a court of ten can strangle the game and change it. 894 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 3: Completely and, Like i've Seen luca do that so many 895 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 3: times since he's come to THE la that, Like i've 896 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 3: grown to appreciate That luca's style might look, different but it's. Powerful. 897 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 3: Unoffereday on, defense he was embarrassingly bad in The celtics. 898 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 3: Series he's been good at times a lot of times 899 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 3: with The, lakers but The pacers, game for, instance like 900 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 3: just wasn't sliding his feet on the ball and just 901 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 3: gave up drive drive drive To andrenamhard And Tyris alburn 902 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 3: cost him a game towards down the. Stretch my thing 903 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: With luca is to me that defense piece is a 904 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 3: prerequisite to him getting to where he wants to. Go, 905 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 3: LIKE i don't think he'll ever accomplish what he wants 906 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 3: to accomplish until he ties that piece. Together there's a 907 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 3: certain level of commitment on that end that he. Needs 908 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 3: BUT I i having rooted for him over the last 909 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 3: couple of, months Like i'm a truther when it comes 910 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 3: to him on the offensive end of the, floor like 911 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 3: he just is an indomitable force that generates great shots 912 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,720 Speaker 3: every single time down the. Floor when they Beat, indy 913 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 3: there was a stretch down the end of the game 914 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 3: Where indy was trying so hard to get a stop 915 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 3: and they literally couldn't stop The lakers from getting a 916 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 3: completely uncontested three for a good shooter every single time 917 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 3: down the. Floor AND i was, like this is. Remarkable 918 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 3: this is clutch. Time this is they're trying on, defense 919 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 3: they're game planning on, defense and they literally can't stop 920 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 3: The lakers from getting a butt, naked wide open, three 921 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 3: and like, that that to me is just a superpower 922 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: that he. Has not many players in the league can. 923 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: Match you. 924 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: KNOW i want to wrap it with this BECAUSE i 925 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: thought it was a really interesting. TOPIC i Had Rachel nichols, 926 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: on AND i Think Adam silver is a good. COMMISSIONER 927 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: i thought WHEN i had him, ON i thought he 928 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: overreacted a little To Kevin durant to The. Warriors and 929 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: my take, is, Well otani came to The. Dodgers it's 930 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: been great For, otani great for The, dodgers great For, 931 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: fox great for. Baseball people like, trades people like stars 932 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: and big. Brands Harbottom michigan. 933 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 2: There was no. 934 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: Downside, yeah, Yeah michigan was going to throttle people and 935 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: you'd have more blowouts than The big. Ten so what 936 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: and so they overreacted and they you, know they've now 937 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 1: created this environment where you, know eight, rooms it's. 938 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 2: Hard it's, like you. Can't you'll never. 939 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 1: Duplicate unless you hit on every draft pick for four, 940 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 1: years you'll never duplicate The celtics. 941 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 2: Roster, like it's just you. 942 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: Can't you can't have eight good. Players it doesn't work that. 943 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: Way and my take is people like, trades they don't mind. 944 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: Dynasties And Kevin durant was bound to not get along 945 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:52,720 Speaker 1: With Draymond. 946 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 2: Green so it wasn't going to be an eight year. 947 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 2: Run it was three. 948 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: Years they wore each other, outs it Was shaq And. 949 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: Kobe it was bound not to work. 950 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: Forever But. 951 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: I've talked about this, before is that there are certain unsolvable. 952 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: Things you can go to a. THERAPIST i can go 953 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: to a. Therapist there's a basic foundational PERSONALITY i have 954 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: based on my childhood that you're not going to. CHANGE 955 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: i can get, better BUT i am WHAT i am and, 956 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: saying you, know change is hard when you want help 957 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 1: and want to, change it's impossible if you. Don't so 958 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: we are kind of at our core sort of what we. 959 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: Are AND i think there are certain things you can't 960 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: get away from the violence in football OR. Ufc you 961 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: can't get away from the lack of urgency in, baseball 962 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: AND i don't think you can avoid tanking because and 963 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: the reason being is because in, basketball and this is 964 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: not true with other. Sports in, basketball you could identify 965 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: at thirteen years Old Kobe Lebron. Wemby The spurs went 966 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,439 Speaker 1: on a three year mission to Get. Wemby they saw 967 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: that that's that's not the way it. 968 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 2: Works in. 969 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: Football Lamar, jackson we were arguing after he was, drafted 970 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: can he play? Quarterback you, Know mahomes couldn't win in. 971 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: College Josh allen is overrated and wild in basketball men and. 972 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: Women freshman year in high, school it's defined that player 973 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: is different That yukon girl that dominates sixth grade. Basketball it's, like, 974 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: oh that's the best sixth grade basketball player we've ever. 975 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: Seen so and my take is basketball the ability to 976 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: spot transformational talent so. Early it's not a singular year. 977 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: Tank people see. It they don't have to re sign, 978 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: players they can move off players that THE nba should 979 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: just Be, like, listen if if there's a great player 980 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: every year and a different team gets the great, player 981 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: it's unavoidable and it's not terrible for the. League Like 982 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 1: Cooper flag probably Save. CHARLOTTE i mean, literally if he goes, 983 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 1: there it's, like, okay, Now LaMelo, Ball Cooper, fly that's, 984 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 1: Watch like that's a watch on. Television my take is 985 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: THE nba spends so much time paralyzed by tanking and. 986 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: Trades it's like football. Violens just just do the best you. 987 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 2: Can you can't avoid. It what say? You? 988 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 3: YEAH i LIKE i like that you you say it's 989 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 3: an unavoidable piece of. It i'd say the same thing 990 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 3: about the super teams and the willingness of players to 991 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 3: try to partner up in a one team becoming so 992 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 3: powerful that they present a talent mismatch to everyone in. 993 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 3: League to your point About, boston like this is POST 994 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 3: kd And. Steph it happened, again and you know how it. 995 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 3: Happened the league at large Undervalued Drew holiday and chrisops 996 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 3: porzingis that's not On Brad. Stevens that's Not Brad stevens'. 997 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 3: Fault that's the other twenty nine GM's fault that they were, 998 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 3: like Sure brad wants to pay For Chris tops let. 999 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 3: Him well, okay well now he's a. Problem, Okay so 1000 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 3: it's like now they have five thirty million dollars. Players 1001 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 3: AND i also just generally think, that, LIKE i mean 1002 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 3: to your point that there's there's five six teams this 1003 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 3: year that have a really good chance to, win even 1004 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 3: With boston being the way that they, Are so, LIKE 1005 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 3: i don't THINK i think it makes for interesting storylines 1006 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 3: as far as the tanking piece. Goes it's even more 1007 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 3: unavoidable when you factor in just basic, stuff which is, 1008 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 3: like if it's games sixty five and we don't have 1009 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 3: a chance to make it to the, PLAYOFFS i shouldn't 1010 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 3: be playing my. VETS i should be playing my young. 1011 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 3: Players so different than if you're, like, hey you know, 1012 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 3: WHAT i don't need to See Andy dalton start in week. 1013 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 3: Fifteen i'd rather see my third round pick get a 1014 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 3: chance to go out there and see what he can. 1015 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 3: Do let him get the, reps let him learn how to, 1016 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 3: play and so at a certain, point like even if 1017 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 3: you disincentivized it through the, draft you would never be 1018 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 3: able to stop a team from looking at the situation and, 1019 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 3: going this season's, over we need to give our young 1020 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 3: guys the, keys and that's going to lead to a 1021 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 3: lesser basketball. PRODUCT i would say that generally, speaking the 1022 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 3: basketball guys will reward the teams and the franchises that 1023 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 3: play serious, basketball meaning like you'll See okac did this 1024 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 3: a couple of years, ago where it's like they're playing 1025 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,720 Speaker 3: their younger, players they're load Managing, shay but they're also 1026 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 3: teaching those kids to play damn good. 1027 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 2: Basketball, Hey chicago right now is Playing that is a. 1028 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 3: Foundation What chicago is doing right now is a foundational 1029 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 3: part to any hope they have of being good in the. 1030 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 3: Future if you practice playing bad, basketball you'll be a 1031 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 3: bad basketball. Team and so the WAY i look at 1032 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 3: it is, like to your, point you'll never be able 1033 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 3: to stop tanking because it's it's impossible to stop teams 1034 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 3: from even prioritizing younger players. Minutes but, inevitably organizations behaving 1035 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 3: like losers tend to remain. Losers in organizations like here 1036 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 3: go The kings. Again they had that one. Season but 1037 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 3: it's like it turns out that even a really good 1038 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,439 Speaker 3: year From Dearreon fox and uh and From Malik monk 1039 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 3: and From Demonas sabonis is not enough to overcome organizational. Incompetence, 1040 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 3: like at the end of the, day you can't stop 1041 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 3: bad from being, Bad so stop trying to legislate it. 1042 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 3: Out if that makes. 1043 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,720 Speaker 1: Sense, YEAH i MEAN i look at teams Like utah 1044 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: AND i know their record isn't, good BUT i love THEIR. 1045 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: GM i think they have an excellent young coach and 1046 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: they play. Hard, yeah and they're just gonna get better 1047 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 1: with all those draft. Picks they're probably three years Behind. Oka, 1048 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: see so if they Land Cooper, flag AND i think 1049 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,720 Speaker 1: they have the best percentage now they're. Tied If utah 1050 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: Got Cooper, flag that's a playoff team potentially in a 1051 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: year like that's a really good basketball team, obviously If 1052 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: wemby got him In San. Antonio but it's LIKE i 1053 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,760 Speaker 1: look at it AND i think If washington Got Cooper, 1054 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: FLAG i feel so bad For Cooper. Flag If utah 1055 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: Got Cooper, flag to your, Point i'd be like that 1056 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: kid hit a home. 1057 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 2: Run he's gonna do, really really. Well no immediate. 1058 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: Pressure Danny, ainge great young, coach nice little supporting. Players 1059 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: they just. 1060 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 2: Don't have a guy For kessler. 1061 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 3: Too he'd be so. 1062 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: Good, Yeah Walker kessler is really a nice. Player in, 1063 00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: fact The lakers were interested in. 1064 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 3: Him if they would have got, HIM i would have 1065 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,959 Speaker 3: been talking very reckless on your Show. 1066 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 2: College he's a good, player all. 1067 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: Right Jason timpf hoops. Tonight good fifty minutes of basketball. 1068 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: Talk thanks, buddy. 1069 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 3: It was good to see. You until next. 1070 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 2: Time the volume