1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Are you leaving? 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: I you wanna way back home? 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 3: Either way, we want to be there, doesn't matter how 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 3: much baggage you claim and give us time and a 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 3: terminol and gay. 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: We want to send you off in style. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Do you wanna welcome you back home? 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: Tell us all about it? 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine? 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: Malborn? 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride? 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: Do you need to ride? 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: Ride with Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need 16 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: a ride? This is Chris Fairbanks. 17 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: And this is Karen Kilgaroff. 18 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: Karen, I you almost did that hilarious thing. I love 19 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: when comedians do it where I introduced myself, except I 20 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: say your name and then you follow suit and say 21 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: my name. It's not fun when comics do that. 22 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: It is so hilarious, and it it really kicks you off. 23 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it let people know, yeah, that they're entering some 24 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: backwards world. 25 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 3: Get ready open your mind, because this is what this is. 26 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: I'm kidding, of course, I don't like that. I also 27 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: don't like when someone's doing a selfie video and then 28 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: they turn and go, oh, hello, I didn't see you there. 29 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: That's still very popular. 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: And you and you say no, thank you? 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I and I say it, no, I don't see 32 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: you there, And I slam my computer shut and and 33 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: shoot loose papers off of my desk. Nice that I 34 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: only keep stacked on the desk for that purpose. 35 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: For a station. Yeah, in your inbox. 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, No one's even watching. Yeah, it's like that's 37 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: Stephen J. Connell opening to eighties shows. 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Yes, when it goes fly. 39 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 3: And then it reel paper typewriter paper to flying cartoon paper. 40 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: Into a logo. And I'm going to say, that's not 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: the first time I've referenced that. 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: No, you love that. 43 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm all out of and we're gonna our guest today. 44 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: You're not going to believe the story that I told 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: on his podcast. I'll give you one guess what it 46 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: was about. 47 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 3: Was it about feline aids for God, God, damn it. 48 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: That's what I did on Eugene's podcast. I talked about 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: that damn cat. The episode even is called this Darn Cat. 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: He knew preemptively that I would overtell that story for 51 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: years to come, because that was a long time ago. 52 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we love it. 53 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: We've got them all set up we're doing it over zoom. 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: Back then, when I did his podcast, we had to 55 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: recruit a local recording station in Missoula, Montana. There was 56 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: like all these people involved. It was very professional. But 57 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: that's we didn't want to do that to Eugene today, 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: so we kept it very unprofessional. 59 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: He's one of the great professionals of our time. 60 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: I know. That's why I thought I'd mix it up 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: for him, remind him what it used to be like before. 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: He was a consummate professional. 63 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: He plays clubs and colleges in this great country. 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you watch Bob's Burgers, you will recognize his 65 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: voice and you're going to be very excited. 66 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: Yes, for our guest today, it is, in fact Eugene Merman. 67 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: Hello, he did he said it. You promised to say 68 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: hello when we announced your name and you and you 69 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: followed through with that promise. 70 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: Yes. I thought it was the right thing to do. 71 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, not lie. 72 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah, follow your gut, Yeah exactly. 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: And let them know that I'm here. 74 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real. 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: How are you, Eugene doing okay? 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: Doing okay? 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 2: Are you a person Eugene that lives in Los Angeles 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: or do you live in New York? 80 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 4: City, great choices. I yeah, live in not neither. I 81 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: am a person who lives in Massachusetts. 82 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: Boston or Salem. 83 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: I live underneath one thousand meters underneath the pbdy Essex 84 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: Museum in Salem. I live in the Boston area. 85 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: And you are from there. You moved there as a child, correct? 86 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: I moved there. Yes, I moved to Lexington, Massachusetts a 87 00:04:53,640 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: child from the former Soviet Union. We fled, and then 88 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: I lived in New York for a very long time, 89 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: and a few years ago moved back to the Boston area. 90 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: How old were you when you left us? 91 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: I was four. 92 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: Do you remember? This might sound like a dumb question, 93 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: but I have one distinct memory from where I was 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: born in Monterey. I'm not bragging. It's a nice town 95 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: and I was only there till I was two. But 96 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: I do have one vivid memory. Do you have any memories. 97 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: I essentially don't have any memories. I think I remember 98 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: like the smell of black current. I think that's the 99 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 4: only thing that like it, like had this weird familiarity. 100 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: And then it turns out there were like bushes that 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: were near like a little place we had on a pond. 102 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, And have you ever been back. 103 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: I have not. I've been curious. But then as over 104 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: the decades as it became more and more authoritarian, sure 105 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: it became less scarier prospect because. 106 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I understand that fully. 107 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: I got to go to. 108 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 3: And I don't know what the correct term would be, 109 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: because I went there in nineteen eighty seven in high 110 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: school on like this it was called it was called Moscow, 111 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: Poland and the West. It was like a tour that 112 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: we got to go on like first school, and so 113 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: we actually it was behind the Iron curtain technically, it 114 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: was like right before the wall came down and everything, 115 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: and it was unbelieved. It was like one of my 116 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: favorite things of my life. And it was so fascinating. 117 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: And the thing I've always talked about, which is so 118 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: me is my favorite thing about it was people had 119 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: card tables set up on the sidewalk with little glasses 120 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: that would look like a small orange juice if you 121 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: ordered it in a rest, and it was they were 122 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: like half filled with coke, and so you'd go up 123 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: and pay a couple of roubles and you stand there 124 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: and drink your coke and give them the glass back. 125 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: And that was basically you know, that was one of 126 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: the many things you could do on some of. 127 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: Country, surviving off of basically lemonade stands entirely. 128 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: And then there were actually automated vodka dispensers that you 129 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: could go up and do the same thing and then 130 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,559 Speaker 3: you just the same glass stayed in it and you paid. 131 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: You put it in like a. 132 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: You know, soda machine whatever, but it would just pour 133 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: out a certain amount of vodka. Did there, take your shot, 134 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: put it back and it would do like a rinse 135 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: of like aizing rose. 136 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: It sounds like like like the germs only came to 137 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: the Soviet Union in the mid nineties. 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: They were all collected on one glass. 139 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then no, but it was but then we 140 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: also stayed in places that were clearly at one time 141 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: these unbelievable gorgeous hotels and now we all just got 142 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: to be and there was like our rooms were like 143 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: you know, there were thirty foot ceilings and these arched windows, 144 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: and it was it was really amazing. 145 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I liked it. 146 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: So when you you and your parents fled, I assume 147 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: you have fled with your parents. 148 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was it was really their idea. Yeah, 149 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: I knew so little of the world at that time. 150 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 4: But yes, my parents and my brother and I all 151 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: left together. 152 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: And was Massachusetts, So it's just an arbitrary choice or 153 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: what was the process? 154 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 4: Like, No, I think that the process was. I think 155 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: that we might have had friends in this area and 156 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: there was like maybe jobs in tech. This was in 157 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 4: you know, nineteen seventy nine, so I think it was 158 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: just where like and maybe there was even like Jewish 159 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: organizations helping us relocate, and for whatever reason it was 160 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: this area. I think it had to do with the 161 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: potential of work. 162 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: Wow, that's great. 163 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: Is that what your dad did or your mom did? 164 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: Like? Yeah? And math, Yeah, it's one of the staples 165 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: of Russian refugees. 166 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: Are you how about you? Are you good at math? 167 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: Because I am not. 168 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: I would describe myself as not great at math, not 169 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: like like meaning I'm fine, but I'm not like I 170 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 4: can't do math to like solve problems. Like yeah, if I, 171 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: like my dad could tell you if like a bridge 172 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 4: could hold a car and I can't do that. I 173 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: could tell you if like you have like eighty apples 174 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 4: and you added forty apples. 175 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh I can't do yeah. 176 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm like more in the like I can 177 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: like calculate almost unlimited numbers of apples, but not like 178 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: ten of like the strength of various materials, Like I'm out. 179 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: These guys working on this bridge, they're going to get 180 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: hungry and want apples, yeah, exactly. 181 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: And if they're like, we have eighty, and then another 182 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 4: guy's like I have forty, Like oh, it sounds like 183 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: you guys have one hundred and twenty apples. So and 184 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: then the real you are fine, enjoy your lunch, yeah exactly. 185 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: And then the bridge collapses because they weren't paying attention. 186 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: To that math exactly. 187 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: It's your dad funny because I always thought it's maybe 188 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: two different brains that are. 189 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 4: I think of comedy as a verb. I do think 190 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: actually comedy and math are sort of very related because 191 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: I think of, like, you know, comedy is figuring out 192 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 4: sort of like this little problem and then like tweaking 193 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: it in a way where you make a joke. So 194 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: it is in a certain sense like kind of formulas 195 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 4: but not but not math formulas. Yeah yeah, maybe it's 196 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: no formulas. 197 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, those don't intimidate me like numbers do. 198 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 199 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: Maybe I am good at a form of numberless math. 200 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, called comedy. Comedy trial and error, like science, You 201 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 4: get on stage, you try stuff. Yeah that's not as 202 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: good a punchline as this other thing. 203 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: You edits by adding or subtracting words. 204 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, math at a particular velocity and speed. 205 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: All on a train leaving somewhere exactly. 206 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: So how did you get into stand up? 207 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: I loved stand up as a kid, like listening to 208 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: like Emo Phillips and Bobcat Goldthway and watching Robin Williams 209 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 4: is like at night at the met and now like 210 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: in Heinstein, I'm like, oh, I got like thirty percent 211 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: of it, but you know, I loved it. And then 212 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: I think at some point in high school I was like, 213 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: oh my god, that's a type of job, like not 214 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 4: everyone like works with computers. There's all sorts of things, 215 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: and you know, started doing more like theater and video 216 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: and stuff. And then you know, at the end of 217 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: high school, essentrally, like the summer before college, tried stand 218 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: up and it like went deceptively well. And then like 219 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: my second time, as I think a lot of people 220 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: like you feah really hard, You're like, oh, this is 221 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: a very long process. Yeah, so but but I was 222 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: still like it was it seemed so fun and so 223 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: then you know, I like, I basically listened to so 224 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: much stand up growing up and then started doing it 225 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: and then really loved it. Yeah, yeah, and comedy in general, 226 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 4: like writing funny things and doing silly stuff. 227 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: And I don't know, yeah, I've always thought that you 228 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: do much more than stand up in. 229 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: My now now in hindsight, yes, at eighteen, I don't know. 230 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like I feel like I may have 231 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: met you before. Could this be right? 232 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: I feel like I may have met you before, either 233 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: before you started stand up or right when you started. 234 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 4: It's not pop, I mean well meaning I started when 235 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 4: I was eighteen, So I find like, like I think, 236 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: like that's not likely, like meaning, I think we met 237 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: probably in New York though, so depending on when, Like, 238 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 4: you know, I moved to New York in two thousand, 239 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 4: and I did it throughout you know, I did stand 240 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: up throughout college, and you know, then for a few 241 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: years in Boston before moving to New York. We probably 242 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: met in the early ish two thousands. 243 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: Yes, And maybe it was Maybe it was, And maybe 244 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: that was just an assumption because I feel like when 245 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: I first met you, you didn't say anything. 246 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: But then looking back, it's like. 247 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: If I was with David Cross, or I was with 248 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: somebody that was your hero, right that maybe you just 249 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: had that kind of like maybe you were the person 250 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: that was running the room or do you know. 251 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 4: An, Yeah, you actually been quiet. I did do a show. 252 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: Oh I did a show and invite them up at 253 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: raffifi and starting in the early two thousands, and like 254 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: I easily like I had met David through Brendan Small 255 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: in Boston, and so it's very possible that like, I mean, 256 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: it's likely that I met you with David and yes 257 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 4: that I was quiet or or something, and yeah, I 258 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: don't know. 259 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I had an idea of what New 260 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: York comics were like in my mind, and then I 261 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: just remember being I just remember you being very quiet, 262 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: and then and kind of like almost like keep your 263 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: eye on that guy. I don't know what that guy's doing. 264 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: And so then I over the years watching your career 265 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: has been very delightful to me because I was like 266 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: and I'm sure I was also rude because that was 267 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: it was always my approach. 268 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: Don't know that that don't think that was the case, 269 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: but who does. I was probably like quiet and uncomfortable 270 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: in the world. Sure, that's very likely. 271 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: I think I was rude and uncomfortable in the world. 272 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: But it was that thing of like going from you know, nobody, 273 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: especially at the time out of respect for LA comics, 274 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: like you didn't want to be in LA comic, so 275 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: going to going sorry, going to New York. I had 276 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: that kind of thing of like this is the place 277 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: where you have to have good sets. And I was 278 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: having absolutely terrible sets everywhere I went because I was 279 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: truly a LA comic way where nothing was nothing was 280 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: very punchy, it was all very self referential and you know, 281 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: and I guess kind of sucked in a lot of ways. 282 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: So so I think I just had like that defense 283 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: up of like I'm not bad, you're bad, right, right, 284 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: And I also. 285 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: Who knows, like depending on the night or what it 286 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: was like, sometimes you'd try stuff that would be great 287 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: and then sometimes it'd be like that's very strange and confusing, 288 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: you know. So I feel like I you know, I mean, 289 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: when I was in you know, there was like some 290 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: people who went through like a world and stand up 291 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: where you like are an opener and then you're a 292 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: middler and then you're a headliner and maybe you're hosting 293 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: stuff that's like a lot of tourists. But I always 294 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: found it much easier to sort of start my own 295 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: show with friends and have like and sort of build 296 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: an audience for the thing that like I'm trying to do. 297 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 4: And so I think as a result, like you would 298 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: have these rooms where like you could actually then try 299 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 4: sort of odd stuff, and the stuff that worked would 300 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: then work in wherever across the country, and the stuff 301 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: that and you just it wasn't so bad, like you 302 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: could you could kind of bomb with grace, but as 303 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: a result try a lot of different stuff. 304 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: Yes, as opposed to if you were carolines at ten 305 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: o'clock at night and then you're just like, I shouldn't 306 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: be a comedian, this is right. 307 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: Well you also, yeah, then have to be probably like 308 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: I mean, and I think there was probably a world 309 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: of very aggressive euro comics and then a world of 310 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: sort of like nerdy gentle cop ofy like weird and absurd, 311 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: and like again you're like figuring stuff out and then 312 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: eventually like a lot of stuff blurs together and it's 313 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 4: like all the things that were like sort of that 314 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: world of you know, are now TV shows and people 315 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: with movies and stuff. 316 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: Totally. 317 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I'm someone that I started in Austin and 318 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: there was a pretty quickly you got work featuring at 319 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: different clubs run by like Rich Miller and I. And 320 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: when I moved to La I you were one of 321 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: the first comics I saw where clearly you had built 322 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: your own following and had your own thing going on, 323 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 2: and to me that the going name for it was 324 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: alternative comedy back then. Yeah, but I was like, Okay, 325 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: this is what I want to do. I'm glad that 326 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: I moved here because I felt uneasy and probably also 327 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: was very quiet around everyone. But what a relief to 328 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: me to see that you were doing that and you 329 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: didn't have to just go and feature on the road 330 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: and struggle in front of flyover audiences, you know, right. 331 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 4: And also I think a lot of it was that, 332 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 4: like it was also just a more like it was 333 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: a for me, it was the better way to become 334 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 4: a professional comedian. Like it wasn't like I was killing, 335 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 4: as you know, a feature in random places and then 336 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 4: did Like it was more that this was the way 337 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 4: to build an actual following and like you know, I 338 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 4: you know, put out an album in the very early 339 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: two thousands, where other people in my position maybe wouldn't, 340 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: but it was like that, that's what I had access to. 341 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: Like you can't put yourself on television but without without 342 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 4: a threat, but you can like release a record and 343 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 4: now it's probably you know, that much easier though, that 344 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 4: much more saturated. 345 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I met you, you had a following, grassroots 346 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: following that you created, and especially from my perspective, people 347 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: knew you in the audience. That just blew my mind. 348 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 2: And we were young, we were children. Yeah, yeah, so 349 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: good job. From the beginning. 350 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: I just wanted to get you here to say good 351 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: job on that in the early two thousand. 352 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much, thank you, thank you. It 353 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: was look you did. 354 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: It correctly, and I saw the early signs that you 355 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: were doing it correctly. So again, congratulations to you twenty 356 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: years ago. 357 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you very very much. 358 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: And what are you doing these days, Eugene, what's what's. 359 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: Your deal now? 360 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: I'm I am uh me and my friend Julie Smith 361 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 4: who who we did our comedy festival together, and a 362 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: bunch of stuff we're working on, starting like a small 363 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: comedy label. And I have a five year old son. 364 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, so a lot of time is spent, uh 365 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 4: you know with him. 366 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: Sure good. 367 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, like and he I feed him and I pat 368 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: him on the head and I said, great job. Yesterday 369 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 4: I got him a booster uh COVID booster shot. So 370 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff. So I'm up to yeah exactly. 371 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 4: It's a mix of dad stuff and Bob's and then 372 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 4: recording random stuff and sort of slowly getting back into 373 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: stand up as the pandemic is here forever. So so 374 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 4: like at first I was like, oh, when things get better, 375 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 4: and now it's like, well I had COVID in January. 376 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 4: It was asymptomatic, but uh it was that was that 377 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 4: was fine, I guess for me. Yeah. So like I'm 378 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 4: now slowly starting to do stand up, I guess yeah. 379 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm looking at it as just go on the 380 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: road to celebrate these little vacations between variants. Yeah yeah, 381 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: and that'll that'll be a nice I mean, that'll be okay, right, 382 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: that'll be I think. 383 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: I think this is the new I think it's like 384 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: you yeah, like I did like a benefit, you know, 385 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 4: I don't know, like a thing where I just like 386 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: did a small thing a month or two ago and 387 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 4: I had a mask on most of the time, and 388 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 4: a bunch of people there got COVID, but I had 389 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: had it and didn't happen to get it. So it's 390 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: like go to stuff, but maybe stay masked and not 391 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: near too many people. But I don't know, I think 392 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 4: that's you know, but yeah, I think here in Massachusetts 393 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: also a lot of people are you know, vaccinated, And 394 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 4: sure right now most of the people I know having COVID. 395 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: It's not like great, but it's not the like terror 396 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 4: that it was. 397 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so scary. 398 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 2: At did you did you travel here for the Bobs 399 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: Burger's movie? 400 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: I did, I was. I was there, yeah, last week 401 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 4: for the premiere. It was it was my first premiere. 402 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: It was really fun. Yes, I mean like on that scale, 403 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: like I've gone the guy in a documentary and went 404 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 4: to the premiere of that, but like in terms of 405 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 4: like a street is blocked off and there's a red 406 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 4: carpet and a ton of press and like you know, 407 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 4: photographers and all this stuff like. 408 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: People call it yelling Jean at you. 409 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: Yes, that I experience occasionally, but yeah, it was it 410 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 4: was pretty It was fun and it was also really 411 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 4: great to see everybody and yeah, the premiere was fun. 412 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: So you haven't seen any of these you've been recording 413 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: then there at your house? 414 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? I record, uh yeah at home mostly. We about 415 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: a month and a half ago had gone out for 416 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: wander Con, and so I saw for the first time 417 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: some of the people and then some of the cast 418 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 4: that's like here or Lauren Bouchard who comes to Massachusetts 419 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: because he's from here. So like some some of the 420 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: people I've seen, but then others I hadn't seen, you know, 421 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 4: in a few years. So it was really really nice. 422 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: And people are loving that movie, right, I see people 423 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: on Twitter. 424 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 4: I think people are enjoying it. Well, we'll find it. 425 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen clips that 426 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: I like. 427 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I think it's I think it's very funny. 428 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 4: I think it's very sweet, you know. I feel like 429 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 4: Lauren and Norah and everybody like do such a good 430 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: job of like these kind of very sweet, funny, quirky stories. 431 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's I'm a huge fan of the show, 432 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: so there's I feel like the movie is and also 433 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: of the songs, Like the songs are just so brilliant, 434 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: they really are. Yeah, it's so good. When you said 435 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: Julie Smith. Though it reminded me. I just realized. The 436 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 3: last time I actually saw you in real life was 437 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 3: when I did your comedy festival at at the Bellhouse. 438 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 3: I remember watching the lineup was insane, the audience was great, 439 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: and I was just like I had that voice in 440 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: my head that was just. 441 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Like, and Ye're getting get out there and eat it, 442 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I'm not good. It was like 443 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: that thing of like, don't just don't eat it, just 444 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: don't do it. 445 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: It's important to have that voice always in your head. 446 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: I know I have it. Yeah, I don't need it. 447 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's. 448 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: Even Sometimes the voice will say I wonder what it 449 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: would feel like to stop doing well right now and 450 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: consciously eat it, and then I do it, and then 451 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: I do it. It terrible. I forgot terrible. 452 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 4: I forgot that. 453 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: It always feels needed. 454 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: The reminder that sucks. 455 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: I will do it. My brain is a terrible thing 456 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: that I can't control. Yeah. The Belhouse is synonymous with 457 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: your name. Actually I know nothing of it except you 458 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: at a show there. 459 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. We did our festival there and then A showed 460 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 4: Union Hall for a long time. Yeah, it's a wonderful 461 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 4: relief on venue, and I think, like now, like there's 462 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 4: lots of shows, people have recorded specials there, and you know, 463 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: it's a great space. 464 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: Yep, I forget about all them. That's Merman's House. And 465 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: it's one of those dad movies or movies that my 466 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 2: dad made me watch over and over. No, I loved it. Fletch, 467 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: the first Fletch and like Catty Shack. But you're do 468 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: you know much about this Fletch that's coming out or 469 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: when it comes out? 470 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: I mean in the sense that I'm in it. 471 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 472 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 4: So I's like I don't know the details of like 473 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: when it comes out or anything, but I know that 474 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 4: I filmed it last summer, and I know that it's 475 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: coming out and that you know, it'll be funny, and 476 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 4: I think it'll be. Yeah, I'm very excited to see it. 477 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: Are you a character that was maybe based on one 478 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: from the original movie? 479 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 4: I don't know. No, I don't, I don't. It's not 480 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: I think that the tone of it is much more 481 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 4: like the tone of the novels as I understand that 482 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: from the seventies, So it's not a remake of the movies. 483 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 4: It's like actually like an adaptation of the original books. 484 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm always someone, yeah, that either doesn't know or forgets 485 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: about the existence of books and how they brought me. 486 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: I think a lot of books, and I believe it 487 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 4: is based on the book Confess Fletch. 488 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: I am going to go ahead and admit that I 489 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: didn't know there was a series of Fletch books. Yeah, 490 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: that's just. 491 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I found out when I was doing them. 492 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 4: I don't think like a lot of people are finding 493 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 4: out right now that in the seventies there was a 494 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 4: series of Fletchboesah. 495 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think anyone like read them in high school. 496 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to be well. Although I have to say, 497 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: Fletch was a movie that came out right when I 498 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: think I was twelve when it came out or so, 499 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: so it was one of those movies that we had 500 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: memorized and said the lines to each other constantly or whatever. 501 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: And I do remember seeing that in the credits it 502 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 3: was like based on the book by the author I 503 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 3: can't remember, Okay. So that's the only reason I knew 504 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: is because I just loved that every frame of that movie. 505 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: I think it's great. And also it's starring John Hamm right. 506 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeahs, yes, it is a comedy. He is funny in 507 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: it though. 508 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yes, it's not a gritty reboot. 509 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: It's like the New Batman. It's like it's just it's 510 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 4: just him, Like every scene he just murders someone. Yeah, 511 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: in self defense. No, it's it's like a it's a 512 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 4: it's a I mean it's yeah, it's it's very funny. 513 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: It's directed by the Greg who did Super Bad, so 514 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 4: it's this very funny Yeah. 515 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: I'm very excited to see that. Was it really fun 516 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: to be in that movie? 517 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: It was really fun, you know, I like, uh, you know, 518 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: I haven't done a ton of movies, and that was 519 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: sort of it. And it was really fun and they 520 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: were really nice and it was fun on set. 521 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: And yeah, you're gonna dust off your mirror suit. 522 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 4: Yes exactly, I'll have to. 523 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: Yes, ready for another carpet. Get used to it. 524 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: Yes, the new me. 525 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 3: Uh you get really big lips and lip injection. 526 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will. 527 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 4: I will get like butt implants and shoulder spikes or 528 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: whatever people do. I'll figure it out. 529 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: Give the shoulder spike implants. 530 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: I'll consult with the you know, the sty in the 531 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: Boston area. 532 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: There was the Velvet Room, the place I started at 533 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: in Austin. Next door was a burger place called Casino 534 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: El Camino, and a lot of the employees there were 535 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: from the Jim Rose circus side show thing, and there 536 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: was a guy there with it. It was the first 537 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: time I'd seen implants under like, I guess these little 538 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: horns yes, yeah, yeah, embedded, I guess, screwed into the 539 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: bone of his skull. Yeah, And I couldn't. The skin 540 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: was stretched over it like tot and I'm like, I, 541 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: if you ever bump your horns getting out of your car, 542 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: what is it? Horrified me just because I kept thinking 543 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: of the accidents or bumping them that tight skin. I mean, 544 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: this is a very clinical, disgusting thing for me to 545 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: talk about. But I was obsessed with how dangerous it 546 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: seems to have spiky implants. So do not get them 547 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: in your shoulders. I will joke, yeah. 548 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 4: If you do. I didn't mean like I guess, yeah, 549 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 4: I guess. It sounded like I was going to do 550 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 4: surgical implants, right. 551 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: I assume you go through surgery and then get it 552 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: all removed the day after the premiere. Yeah, the butt 553 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: implants and everything, yeahs. 554 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 4: Over yeah, I'm not going to do that. I think 555 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: I saw that guy there because I've seen that in 556 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 4: my life around twice, and I feel like it's either there, Yeah, 557 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: because I remember that place. 558 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: I wonder if that's you know, like people get their 559 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: tattoos removed after a while. I wonder if, like you 560 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: get two horns implanted in your head and then like 561 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: thirteen years later, you're kind of like, I don't know 562 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: if I'm really this person anymore. 563 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 4: Probably right around the same time you're passing the bar. 564 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're so. 565 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: You're a talented lawyer. 566 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: You're like a very good lawyer. You just at twenty 567 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: were like, I'm a scary little monster in the Yeah. Yeah. 568 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: Why is he always wearing a fedora to court? 569 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly to hide his horse or a very large wig, 570 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: like a top. 571 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: Like one of those British Yeah exactly, British barristers. 572 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: It's just upon bringing his own powdered wig to court. 573 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: Hey, look, I want to do this the right way, 574 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: he says, hiding his horn. 575 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: I really want there to be a modern day lawyer that, 576 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: without explaining it to people, just wears a wig like that. 577 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: I want it to be true. Just for you know, geez, yeah, 578 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 2: just for litigation, just for for a hit and run accident. 579 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: Anything powdered wig. You know what, I'm going to start 580 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: wearing one, do it? 581 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I came. 582 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: Here for support. 583 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: Wait for winter, though, because there it will warm you 584 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: up really good. I think summers summer's not great. 585 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: Well that's the purpose of the powder. Sure you're sweaty 586 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: and disgusting under that wig, but the powder keeps you 587 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: fresh because it's medicated. 588 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 589 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: Wait, can we go back to Fletch for one? 590 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do let's get out of this whole wig thing. 591 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: I'm sorry were back in so Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, 592 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 4: so Greg Mantola directed it, who did super Bad, And 593 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 4: it's a very funny and Ham as great as Fletch. 594 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: Did you ever do any like did anything ever happen 595 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: on set? Like did you forget your lines? 596 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: Or wait? 597 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: Did you have to shoot? 598 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 4: So originally I was worried that I would have to 599 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 4: do a Boston accent, and but I had like as written, 600 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: there were only like two lines or so, and I 601 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: was like, do I have to do that? Because it's 602 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: originally I think was cast as that because really John 603 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 4: Hammond and Greg had asked me if I wanted to 604 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: do like they were like, here's the world, do you 605 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: want to do this? We're shooting in Boston, and it 606 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: sounded fun and so I agreed. And then when I 607 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: saw it, I was like, Oh, I wonder if I 608 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: have to do this Boston accent for these two lines 609 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 4: out there. No, I'm a security guard. 610 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: I would assume if any jo. 611 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 4: I think they had enough. So like when I got there, 612 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: they were like, we have plenty of people who are 613 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: local who have an actual Boston accent, so you don't 614 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: have to like pretend, which is great because it's like 615 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: one thing to try to get like one or two lines, 616 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: but to improvise in an accent that I don't really 617 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 4: do would be its own level of effort. 618 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: Which is funny because you're actually from Massachusetts. 619 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's not like I can't probably say a 620 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 4: word or two, but like to have a conversation is different. 621 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 4: So it's like a lot of improv and it was 622 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 4: it was pretty fun. I haven't seen it yet, but 623 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 4: but I've but somebody I saw somebody last week who 624 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: said they saw it that it was funny, and yeah, 625 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: so I'm excited to see it. 626 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: I am so too. Have you guys seen not to 627 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: change the subject to something that involves none of us 628 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: but the new kids in the hall. 629 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: No, I really want to see it. 630 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: It is. I texted your Karen today, like you didn't 631 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: have better things to do? Hey, one pm, watch all 632 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: of kids in the hall and be sure to just 633 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: be in your underpants like me. They really went for it. 634 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: I'll just say that I was so and I thought 635 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: maybe they wouldn't get away with certain things. But it's 636 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: so well done and they are so good that it is. 637 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: I highly recommend it. It's great. 638 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 4: No. 639 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: I watched it with the second that I heard that 640 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 3: it was on, and I was just like, this can't 641 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: be real. 642 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: And then I just binge the entire thing. I was thrilled. 643 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: They are funnier than ever. And I don't know what 644 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: if they've been practicing with acting, they're so good. 645 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: Well they've all been a didn't Yeah, I think so? 646 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 647 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they've all stayed in practice. 648 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, kept it warm. 649 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I can't wait to watch it. 650 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 2: I hosted some music festival and I do want to 651 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: ask you about that, Eugene, because I know you've opened 652 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: for a lot of bands, but uh, one of the 653 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: we went to Calgary. It was like a folk music 654 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: festival and you just had to talk in between these 655 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: acts as as they were setting up. It was actually 656 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: and no one was listening, but it was me and 657 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: another comic, Derek Sigin, I think. And then Kevin McDonald 658 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: was there, and he was so nervous. He acted like 659 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: he just had moved to Saskatchewan and gotten married and 660 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: he didn't do showbiz stuff anymore. That's why I was 661 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: so happy to see how funny he was. Because he's 662 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: so funny. I was worried that he would get on 663 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: stage and no one would know him. And the minute 664 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: he got on stage, the whole crowd freaked out. I 665 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: mean either yeah, and he's like, oh, what a relief, 666 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: And I'm like, are you kidding me? Yes, Yeah. He 667 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: was so humble and it's like he didn't even know. 668 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: I was just staring at him, so excited to have 669 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: met him. They were just really important to me in 670 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: the in the early nineties, watching them over and over 671 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 2: and over. Yeah. 672 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: So anyway, he actually was one of the people the 673 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: Odd Bloc festival that they used to do and I 674 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: believe Winnipeg. Yeah, and their first night, they had a 675 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 3: kind of like all the comics can go and hang 676 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: out in the lobby of the main theater that they 677 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 3: have it in, and he was there and I was 678 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: freaking out. It was like it might as well have 679 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: been fucking Rob lower At. 680 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: That's the only other slow you can think of. 681 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: But I like, yeah, I problem too. 682 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 3: Those are the two that matter to me most. But 683 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: I think I was with like Michelle Buteau or something, 684 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 3: or they're like, go say hi, and I'm like no, no, no, no, 685 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 3: Like I was acting so weird. But it was that 686 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: thing to me of like those guys were I loved 687 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 3: that show. And it was at this time where I'd 688 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: like flummed out of college. There was nothing going on. 689 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: I hadn't started stand up and yeah, it was it 690 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 3: truly was like the idea that he would think people 691 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: wouldn't recognize him in Canada is hilarious. 692 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and then they it was just to see 693 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: thirteen thousand people on this outdoor this island. It was 694 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: the middle of the day. It was a terrible gig 695 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: and that's why he was nervous. 696 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was right to be like this is 697 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 4: a good thing. Right. The part where he was wrong 698 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 4: is that people adore him and he's very funny. 699 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 2: And the part where he's right, he's like, I'm supposed 700 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: to do stand up. I don't do that. Yeah. 701 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 4: I think like as I've done sort of things that 702 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 4: music stuff, I have shrunk like like now I'm like, 703 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 4: oh you like I think after the first time that 704 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 4: someone was like and you can go as they're setting 705 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 4: stuff up, and then it turns out like you can't. 706 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: You can't possibly perform as stuff is being set up, 707 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 4: so you have to say like, no, I can do 708 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 4: a set beforehand or after, but I can't do it during. 709 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: It's not it's just genuinely not possible, Like you can't 710 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 4: tell a joke and someone is like trust like trying 711 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 4: the sound of the symbol and then like of a 712 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 4: kick drum and then there's a guitar, Like it's not feasible. 713 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 4: But it takes having terrible experiences to go like, oh, 714 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 4: these are the things that I that you should and 715 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 4: they don't know. They're like, it'll be fun, yeah, and 716 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 4: the answer is it will not be fun. 717 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's always you're always tricked into it by because 718 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: that's this festival. There was of course a comedy tent 719 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: with twelve people sitting in the grass right then later 720 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: oh and then there's just this other thing where you 721 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: kill time as Roady's drape cable over your shoulder right. 722 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: Right, And I think you have to like now I 723 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 4: know that if someone asks the thing, I'm like, yeah, 724 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 4: I'll totally do like this version of it. But na, 725 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 4: like I'll do a set before a band, But there 726 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 4: can't be like someone tuning up instruments. And you also 727 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 4: can't do like a really a half hour like you 728 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 4: have to in a row, like it has to be, 729 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 4: you know, unless I guess it's like you're both like 730 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 4: draws or something like that, like if you're splitting the 731 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 4: bill as opposed to like opening for some huge band. 732 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: Do you have any do you have any nightmare stories 733 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 3: from doing gigs like that? 734 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 4: I mean, you know what's funny is like it's all 735 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 4: it's like, well, no, it's like more like the stories 736 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: where it's like and it went shockingly well, is like 737 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 4: the part that like is in a sense amazing, Like 738 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 4: I certainly have, Like I did a tour in Florida 739 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 4: with Modest Mouse where I did maybe twelve shows, and 740 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 4: you could imagine that some like work very hard, but 741 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 4: the fun your part is almost like a few work great. 742 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 4: Like yeah, but it's true that there was one maybe 743 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 4: in Miami that was like it was like so hot 744 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 4: and people couldn't hear me, and there was a woman 745 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 4: in the front like I don't know, or a kid 746 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 4: like I forget, like somewhere between, probably like around eighteen 747 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 4: or twenty, and she was like kind of get my attention, 748 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 4: and like it was so distracting and everyone was yelling, 749 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 4: and then I was like and then finally it became 750 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 4: clear that like people didn't realize that there's like a schedule, 751 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 4: so like if I get off stage, it h the 752 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 4: band doesn't go on any faster. And then she also 753 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 4: tried to convey sort of basically and I I'm Randy 754 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 4: and philosophy of self interest that I was like, are 755 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 4: you describing on Rand She's like, I've never heard of her. 756 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 4: She's just I just like act in a self interested, 757 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 4: selfish way. 758 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: It's as while you were on stage, yes, it was. 759 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 4: Like this is what I mean. It was like people 760 00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 4: distracting you with complicated, tedious concepts. Oh, and the problem 761 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 4: is also like you can't even like make fun of 762 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 4: like it's not like like it's the whole thing. It 763 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 4: was just also just noise and chaos. But on the 764 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 4: other hand, there were shows in like I think it 765 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 4: was Saint Augustine that were really fun in Jacksonville were 766 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 4: really really great. One of the way that it all 767 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 4: sort of that like doing stuff with bands. I did 768 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: stuff with Gila Tango because they would have comics on 769 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 4: shows and stuff. But when I started working with this 770 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 4: agent who was wonderful and booked me on the Modest 771 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 4: Mouse Tour and then some other stuff. She when the 772 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 4: Shins were blowing up, so like I don't know, around 773 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 4: two thousand and two plus or minus, like they had 774 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 4: three shows at Bowery and she was like, do you 775 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 4: want to open for the Shins? And I was like, yes, 776 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 4: I would love to open for the Shins, and you know, 777 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 4: and then I learned like from that experience, like let 778 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 4: people know they'll be a comedian. Yeah, So like there's 779 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 4: two other bands, and then I think at eleven o'clock 780 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 4: or ten or whatever it was that when the Shins 781 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 4: were supposed to go on instead, I came out to 782 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 4: do ten minutes of stand up comedy and there's people going 783 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 4: like shin shin shit said. Then I'm like hello, and 784 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 4: I think I had like also some video because I 785 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 4: knew it could be hard, Like nobody really yells at 786 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 4: video because they know it can't stop. But there was 787 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 4: a point in which like I'm sort of trying to 788 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 4: talk or whatever, and then I made some joke of 789 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 4: how I can't believe I'm being heckled by people who 790 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 4: could get beat up by Belle and Sebastian, and then 791 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 4: that kind of like turned and everyone's like, oh, this 792 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 4: is let's give this person six minutes of our attention. 793 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 4: So then people were kind of nice. So it was 794 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 4: like but yeah, and then I did, you know, various shows, 795 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 4: and now since then have like done a lot of 796 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 4: music comedy things with friends, you know. But also it's 797 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 4: that's at a time where it's like if there's an 798 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 4: opportunity to like reach an audience and like have to 799 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 4: figure out how to make it work, you know, it's 800 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 4: totally worth that. So like, yeah, you know, that's like 801 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 4: if there's a way to like make two hundred dollars 802 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 4: in a night and pay your rent, and maybe it's 803 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 4: a little hard, you still you know, do it and 804 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 4: also reach people and probably you know, find fans in 805 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 4: the end. 806 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 807 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: I did that Yola Tango show one time. I really 808 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 3: love those guys. They're so nice and there's they had. 809 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 3: They have so many friends that are comics and stuff, 810 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 3: and I've felt so honored to do it. And at 811 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 3: one point I was finishing a joke and I was 812 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 3: so I was so shaky about like I just kind 813 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 3: of I'm sure it came out, but it's like I 814 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 3: didn't believe in myself as a stand up doing stand 815 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 3: up in New York City. I was like, I just 816 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 3: don't have the hard jokes to be doing this, and 817 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 3: I think it like showed. But there was one joke 818 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 3: that I was doing and it was about a taco 819 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: bell commercial and the punchline was like bitches ruined food 820 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 3: and the second the last word was out of my mouth. 821 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: This guy in the back goes and rock shows. 822 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 3: And then people kind of like booed the guy, which 823 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 3: then felt horrible because then it was like, oh, this 824 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 3: audience pities me. Like it's kind of thing where the 825 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 3: whole thing turned, and it is absolutely the thing I 826 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 3: think of because I'm so furious myself for not giving 827 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 3: it a beat and then going like, and this is 828 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 3: of course the comeback I've written hundreds of years later, 829 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:23,959 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. 830 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, oh, bitches ruined rock shows. 831 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: Let's not we better not tell Georgia the fucking drummer 832 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:31,240 Speaker 3: of Yo Latango. 833 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: But instead I was just like, I can't remember what 834 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: I did. It was like, uh, this that's not the 835 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: spirit of Hanukkah whatever, and. 836 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: Then yeah. 837 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 4: Holidays, Yes, yeah, those shows were really fun. I mean 838 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 4: they're you know, they also like but but they were 839 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 4: also a thing where like people knew to expect a 840 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 4: surprise band and a surprise comic for those shows. So 841 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 4: it was, you know that that was It was really 842 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 4: when you'd be on a show and people are well 843 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 4: for the Shins, one was like, why is there? Why 844 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 4: is this person not the Shins? And then the Monastus shows, 845 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 4: I think I'd like, I was like, because nobody would 846 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 4: have known me, so I was like, please build me 847 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 4: as comedian Ugee Burbot just so people know it's comedy. 848 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 4: And then I think, similarly, I am seed that this 849 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 4: tour for Cake, the Unlimited Sunshine Tour with Cake, Teagan 850 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 4: and Sarah and Gogle Bordello and that I was like, 851 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 4: you know that. Also, like the opening set was great, 852 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 4: it was really easy, and then I could do a 853 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 4: sort of shorter set after the first band, and then 854 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 4: like when it was time for Cake, like cause I 855 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 4: think they were like and you'll do like a few minutes, 856 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 4: but then you would walk out and basically it was, 857 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 4: you know whatever, three thousand people chanting Cake and there's 858 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 4: no like version where you're like, hold on. I'd love 859 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 4: to tell you about a time at a mall that 860 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 4: was a little silly, like nobody wants to hear it. 861 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 4: They're just like Cake, so like, but then you just 862 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 4: once you do it, like with bands, you're just like, 863 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 4: here's what will work. I'm happy to do that. If 864 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,919 Speaker 4: like you want a different thing, like it doesn't it's 865 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 4: not a good idea. 866 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, like for sure it's proven out. 867 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 4: And you don't want me to do forty five minutes, 868 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 4: Like you don't want forty five minutes, you want like 869 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. Yeah maybe Brodags. 870 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll never forget watching Tool asked David Cross to 871 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 3: open for them and were this was like in it 872 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 3: was in southern California, but it was outside of La somewhere, 873 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 3: I want to say, it was in either Ventura or something, 874 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 3: and we all drove out to watch it because we're like, 875 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 3: oh yeah. 876 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: We'll get you know, Tool tickets or whatever. 877 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 3: And then David's performing and he literally got introduced. He 878 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 3: walked on stage and everyone just started throwing bottles and 879 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 3: bottle caps and shit at him. 880 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, and he didn't. 881 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 3: He got to the microphone, he tried to fight against 882 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 3: it for like thirty seconds and then they just left. 883 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 3: It's like Tools, audience doesn't want fi fucking comedy, and 884 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 3: it's Maynard Keenan who was like, I love comedy, they'll 885 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 3: love comedy. 886 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: It's like it does not work that way at all. 887 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's like depending like I did a 888 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 4: tour with Andrew Byrd and his audience was incredible. They 889 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 4: are like the lovely NPR people, and I did. I 890 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 4: think that show was actually probably like half hour opening sets, 891 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 4: like you know, but it was like, you know, a 892 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,919 Speaker 4: very pleasant show in theaters for you know, a lovely audience. Yeah, 893 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 4: but Tool sounds impossible, yes, so like yeah. 894 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 2: But you know what was just as bad. And I 895 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 2: was too new green and new to stand up to 896 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 2: have done well, but because it was a half hour 897 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: in front of Selene or Cindy Laupper, so I always 898 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 2: want to call her Celine Dion. But they threw stuff 899 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 2: and yelled get off stage too, and it was Cydey Lauper, 900 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 2: and the woman that asked me to do it got 901 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 2: fired because of how badly I did. It was the worst. 902 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 2: I cried afterwards. I had trouble getting paid. I was fired, 903 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 2: yeah right there. 904 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 4: And how long? How much time were you supposed to do? 905 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: This was like two thousand and five and it was 906 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 2: in Houston, Texas at the Verizon Wireless Amphitheater Way and 907 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 2: the girl, I think she worked for Verizon, and she 908 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I know a comedian that could open 909 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 2: for Chris or for Cindy And I was just not 910 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 2: ready and there was no announcement. They people cheered when 911 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 2: I walked out, thinking it was going to be Cindy 912 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 2: Lauper and it was just a guy and they had 913 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 2: just immediately were booing. But I was like, I gotta 914 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: do my thirty minutes of what was then like wordplay 915 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 2: and puns now it and someone peeked down and I 916 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 2: was fired and I never got my free meal. Everything 917 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 2: was bad, and they were. 918 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 4: Right to the Verizon Center. 919 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 2: Well I thought it was going to be they said yeah, 920 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 2: and there's a whole tour after that. And my friend 921 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: Tommy was a regular opener for Share and he had 922 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: bought a house from that gig. Granted he was also 923 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 2: a family friendly like magician. He had a lot of 924 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 2: plan bees to go to other than jokes, right. 925 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 4: Right, Yes, I once had very early in whatever I 926 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 4: think in the early two thousands, I was almost with 927 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 4: some agency and they booked some room in Vegas. So 928 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 4: I went to like La to like to like meet 929 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 4: with them and maybe come back and meet like have 930 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 4: another meeting or whatever. And they were like, you could 931 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,720 Speaker 4: go and do this, you know, off the beaten path 932 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 4: Vegas room where you would I think just do ten 933 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 4: minute sets or something like something not and I like, 934 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 4: I was supposed to do eight shows. I think in 935 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 4: the first night I did too, and it was just 936 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 4: such a mismatch where it was like also it was 937 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 4: like an audience of people like on ventilators and or 938 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 4: like respirator not ventilators anyway, like oxygen machines and very 939 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 4: like elderly and this was you know what it was. 940 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 4: This was actually after nine to eleven because the guy 941 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 4: who headlined killed with like it was something like forty 942 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 4: five minutes of stuff about bush Gore. But it felt 943 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 4: like it was it was like November ish or Actroum 944 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 4: November after nine to eleven. So it was this weird 945 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 4: thing where like the world had changed and it was 946 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 4: like I get doing topical stuff, but it was like 947 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 4: not exactly topical, but to that audience it was quite topical. 948 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 4: And I remember saying something about the Internet, you know, 949 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 4: because this is what two thousand and one, and then 950 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 4: I like meaning the Internet, like like it was like offhanded, 951 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 4: like I signed up for something on the Internet, and 952 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 4: I could see in the eyes of the audience that 953 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 4: they like they didn't use the Internet, Like it was 954 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 4: not like I was like it was like I brought 955 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 4: up the telephone before most households had a telephone. 956 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're on a ventilator thing, you yeah, 957 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 2: I really know you're going to the Internet. 958 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 4: But it was like I was like, oh, I can't. 959 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 4: I don't have like I thought, like this is broad 960 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 4: stuff that will relate and then I forget like the 961 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 4: poor ms like so the MC trying to help me, 962 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 4: like like he was genuinely trying to help me. And 963 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 4: he was like, do you have any fart jokes or 964 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 4: anything about being Jewish? And I was like I had 965 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 4: like one thing, like I didn't, but I tried what 966 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 4: I and it was like this is not a good match. 967 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 4: And then the the place was like, you know what, 968 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,959 Speaker 4: you can stay at the hotel the next three days, 969 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 4: but why don't you do none of the shows? And 970 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 4: I was like, this is great, this is a great deal. 971 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 4: I do not need this six more times. 972 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got treated much better than I was. Just 973 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 2: locked out of the Verizon Wireless Amphi theater. Yeah, pushed 974 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 2: out by a rody guy. 975 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 1: Don't come back. 976 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 4: Well. 977 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 3: You know that's funny is that the early days or 978 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 3: the old days of the Largo when it on Fairfax, 979 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 3: they used to always try to have comedy openers for 980 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 3: music nights, and I would do it all the time 981 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 3: because I like that was the level that I was 982 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 3: at of kind of like hosting and MCing and stuff. 983 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 3: They music audiences at that time did not want It's 984 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 3: like they got trained into accepting comedy going with music, 985 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 3: but in the beginning it they didn't like it, and 986 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 3: it is a totally different vibe, yeah, than any kind 987 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 3: of a comedy audience, Like when they're there to get 988 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 3: sung to and you know, like see their favorite musician 989 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 3: in an intimate setting. They don't want to hear anything 990 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 3: out of my mouth for sure, And it'd just be 991 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 3: like I would totally do it for the money and 992 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 3: the dinner that you would get. I'd be like, I 993 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 3: don't care, fine, I have to pay my attend you 994 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 3: played a spaghetti Yeah. 995 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. But also like as it happened more and more often, 996 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 4: people like like meaning I now do it with musicians 997 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 4: where like it seems like it could be a fun 998 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 4: match or it would go well, or it's like someone 999 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 4: I like and we're kind of doing it together, you know, totally. 1000 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 4: But it's yes, it's true that like if no, like yeah, 1001 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 4: if it's like a raucous crowd who don't really know 1002 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 4: there's gonna be comedy, it is not. It is a 1003 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 4: little uphill. 1004 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 1: It's not great. 1005 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 3: Also, if you I think, if you're going out in 1006 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 3: front of a crowd like that, you have to know 1007 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 3: you have like the killer material that's going to land 1008 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 3: kind of no matter what. And I was on a 1009 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 3: comic that would always be like I'm gonna try this thing. 1010 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 3: It's like, no, dummy, no, get the get all of 1011 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 3: your closers and put them all together, you know. 1012 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 4: Right right front you like, yeah, fifteen minutes of closer 1013 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 4: basically help yourself. 1014 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, and that is jokes. 1015 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you, if you, if Yeah. Now now I 1016 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,359 Speaker 4: can show them so many bobs episodes like enjoy this far. 1017 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 4: Here's another fart coming at you, oldie. 1018 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: One of the great historical farts of all time. 1019 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 4: Exactly. Yeah. Now you know, two decades later, I have 1020 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 4: the fart jokes I needed. 1021 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it just is not well, yeah, you gotta 1022 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 2: craft them that some some of those fart jokes just 1023 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 2: need time to be molded. 1024 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: Eugene, do you still do your podcast? 1025 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 4: No? I did it for I mean it was really 1026 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 4: like audible hit, like was like do you want to 1027 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 4: do this thing? And they had basically all all these 1028 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 4: stories that they that they had recorded, and so I 1029 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 4: would talk to the person and they would so so 1030 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 4: it was it was really really fun. But I think 1031 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 4: that they were like we're now doing like I think 1032 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 4: they moved to do like larger long form sort of 1033 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 4: like almost like radio plays and stuff, and so I 1034 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 4: forget how many years ago that stopped. But I really 1035 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 4: enjoyed it, and I would totally do a podcast like 1036 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 4: I love like I did like college radio, you know 1037 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 4: in college, and I love radio. So podcast is very like, 1038 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 4: you know, it's really fun. So would totally do something 1039 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 4: like that again. But don't do it right. 1040 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 2: I forgot. That's how I because we didn't know each 1041 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 2: other very well, and that is how I was. They 1042 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 2: had it recorded from me. 1043 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 4: They already had it, yes, yeah, they had recordings, and 1044 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 4: so I would talk to you know, interview the people, 1045 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 4: and we would pause it and like go like wait, 1046 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 4: like tell me a little more about that. 1047 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 2: It's just so funny because they set me up to 1048 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 2: record in Missoula, and the place I recorded was a 1049 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 2: place where they teach kids how to play guitar, and 1050 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 2: then they had a little recording area so little kids 1051 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 2: could So I was just in a little room with 1052 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 2: little kid guitars. It's just in Yeah, it was. It 1053 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 2: was really an interesting experience. It was pre zoom, you know. 1054 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have anything else you want to plug? 1055 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 3: Bob's Burger's movie. 1056 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, The Bob's Burgers movie is coming out I don't 1057 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 4: know when this comes out, but the Bob's Murgers movie 1058 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 4: comes out on May twenty seventh, so either go to 1059 00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 4: it or go right when you hear this. Yeah, there 1060 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 4: can go the evening after or if it's September, go 1061 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 4: rent it, rent it. 1062 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 2: No, you're fishing for a day that this will come out, 1063 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 2: but we we just go, oh no, I. 1064 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 4: See this comes out. This comes out six twenty seven. 1065 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 4: So so so I've done a perfect job promoting. So 1066 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 4: I hope you saw Bob's Burgers, the mono Fletch. Go 1067 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 4: see Fletch. If that's been an ass so that's check 1068 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 4: that out. 1069 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 2: I'm very excited, Yes, both excited. 1070 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well awesome. Thank you so much for doing 1071 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: this one. 1072 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. This was really fun. 1073 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 4: Thank you guys. 1074 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 2: Well, Eugene, you look good with that beard. I've been 1075 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 2: meaning to say, thank you, thank you. I know that's 1076 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 2: a visual reference, not good for podcasting, but that's a 1077 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 2: nice beard. 1078 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1079 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 3: Ejeene has a beard. It's really it goes down to 1080 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 3: his belt. 1081 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 4: And yeah it's yes, I'm working my way into his 1082 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 4: eazy top. 1083 00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 2: Yes, he has a guitar that spins from a belt buckle, yeah, exactly. 1084 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 2: And he's got legs and he knows how to use them. 1085 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to stop now, I'm going to stop with 1086 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 2: this easy top. 1087 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 1: Rep stop and wrap it up. 1088 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah it. Thank you for being on e Jene you've 1089 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 2: been listening to Do You Need a Ride? 1090 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 4: D y n a R. 1091 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. 1092 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: Produced by Casey O'Brien. 1093 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 2: Mixed by John Bradley. 1094 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: Artwork by Chris Fairbanks. 1095 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 2: Theme song by Karen Kilgareff. 1096 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 3: Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar 1097 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 3: podcast That's d y n ar Podcast. 1098 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 2: For more information, go to exactly Rightmedia dot com. Thank you, 1099 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 2: Oh You're welcome.