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Speaker 3: Bill one last time for the twenty twenty five NFL season.

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Speaker 3: Happy Wednesday, everyone, Welcome to Cowboys Crosstalk Live. I'm the

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Speaker 3: Club at the Star and Frisco. I'm Bobby Belt from

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Speaker 3: one O five through the Fan. That's the radio flagship

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Speaker 3: home of the Dallas Cowboys. We've got Tommy Yards from

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Speaker 3: Dallascowboys dot Com. Here tonight We're joined by my one

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Speaker 3: O five through fan teammate Chris Arnold. He's here this evening,

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Speaker 3: and of course, as always, we've got the three time

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion, six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton, who

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Speaker 3: is our Cowboys alumni this evening and Nate, Nate made

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Speaker 3: it clear. You made it clear, leader, he said, we're

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Speaker 3: talking football all day. Okay, where we're We're talking about

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Speaker 3: what's going on on the football field. And so that's

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Speaker 3: what we're doing tonight. The Cowboys season has come to

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Speaker 3: a close. Uh the They finished seven nine and one

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Speaker 3: on the season after the loss of the Giants to

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Speaker 3: finish things up. It's a overall the the the overall

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Speaker 3: arc of the Cowboys. This season went so many different directions.

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Speaker 3: Like a lot of times, I get to the end

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Speaker 3: of the season and I feel like, man, that season

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Speaker 3: went by in a flash. This felt like this season

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Speaker 3: had so many different storylines and different things happened that

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Speaker 3: this felt like a long time. But you know, you

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Speaker 3: you've got the storyline of you know, Shoty kind of

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Speaker 3: taking over his first year as a coach, and then

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Speaker 3: you know the struggles with the defense, but the offense

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Speaker 3: is high powered. What Pickens was doing then you obviously

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Speaker 3: had the the awful incident with Marshawn Neeland, the tragedy

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Speaker 3: and after the trade with Quinn Williams, then sort of

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Speaker 3: the back and forth close to the season. So a

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Speaker 3: lot of different angles here to you, Nate, when you

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Speaker 3: think back on this twenty twenty five season, what's kind

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Speaker 3: of like the big picture takeaway for you? Something that

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Speaker 3: maybe you taken it next year, or just if you

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Speaker 3: were trying to describe to somebody what this season was about,

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Speaker 3: how would you describe it?

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Speaker 4: It was about building for me from day one, you know,

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Speaker 4: in of y'all to talk to me doing training camp,

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Speaker 4: I had no problem with saying, hey, fellas, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be a struggle. I see this player, I see that player,

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Speaker 1: We did the Quinny.

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Speaker 4: Williams deal, and that was big for me because now

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Speaker 4: we gave ourselves a building block on defense, somebody that

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Speaker 4: we can build around him, and Kenny Clark now OSAs

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Speaker 4: is so much more effective as a player because you

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Speaker 4: I can see where this team if let the head

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Speaker 3: You know it's there. There was a clip that went

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Speaker 3: sort of viral off a Hard Knocks yesterday which covers

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Speaker 3: the NFC East and does the different areas, and Dak

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Speaker 3: This season was a success, and I think he's just

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like, Nate, that that's at least what

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Speaker 4: I didn't like how some things would handling, but for

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Speaker 4: the most part, coach Shotty did a good job. He

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Speaker 1: I like that right there, because I.

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Speaker 4: Think when you look at a team, you got to

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Speaker 1: The guys feel good about him. The guys that probably.

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Speaker 4: Don't even like him respect who he is because he's

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Speaker 1: He don't change, you know.

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Speaker 4: I saw how he did a couple of press conferences

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Speaker 4: Dallas cowboy fans. Well, no, he did this the same way,

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Speaker 4: And you didn't ask me this. We don't need this

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Speaker 3: Guys, I'm curious, Tommy says, I kind of pull you

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Speaker 3: all in here as well. You look back at this season,

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Speaker 3: and how do you repair that and can you repair

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Speaker 5: No, I think the defense for sure takes the headline,

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Speaker 5: just to the sense of it seemed like so many

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Speaker 5: it was consistent in that aspect all year, and that's

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Speaker 1: Why, how is that even possible?

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Speaker 5: A lot of guys have been healthy, they've come back,

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Speaker 5: and they're playing with each other to hear down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: And so it's where's the disconnect.

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Speaker 5: I think you got your answer with the decision to

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Speaker 5: who do they go with a defensive coordinator and what

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Speaker 5: Of improvement on the defensive side of the ball, I

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Speaker 5: who they gat as defensive coordinator and who they bring

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Speaker 5: very important. And I know I'm not breaking any news

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Speaker 5: how important that is based on how this season went.

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Speaker 6: What I thought about the season, guys was the expectation

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Speaker 6: a wasted opportunity, a damn shame, and only because I

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Speaker 6: personally thought, maybe they'd win eight games.

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Speaker 1: Eight games. Let's see what Shoy can do. Hopefully he

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Speaker 6: I didn't expect them to, you know, run through the

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Speaker 6: This was in Philadelphia trying to get back to the

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Speaker 6: we didn't know we would have Dak Prescott for seventeen games.

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Speaker 6: Not only Dak Prescott for seventeen games, how about excellent

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott for seventeen games. We didn't know who the

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Speaker 6: who is this committee? Committee's by a wide receiver doesn't work,

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Speaker 6: committis by running backs is not gonna work. Javonte Williams

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Speaker 6: That's like, we didn't see that coming and so and

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Speaker 6: you also found out that George Pickens was not a

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Speaker 6: going to lose his mind? As far as we know

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Speaker 6: right now, he's just unusual. But he's not a bad case.

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Speaker 6: He's not a head case. With that being said, it

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Speaker 1: I don't know more out of the defense.

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Speaker 4: You can, but I just that that's okay. But again,

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Speaker 4: I thought they were an as. I would not address

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Speaker 4: this during the season Bobby Me and him went weak,

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Speaker 4: and I would tell you, now, leave that man alone,

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Speaker 4: leave him alone, because we couldn't have brought nobody in

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Speaker 4: here at this point in time. What everybody keep missing

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Speaker 4: is the name of the game, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Called players win. Players win one more time. Players win.

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Speaker 4: Now, when you get players and start plugging them in,

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Speaker 4: then coaches can start seeing how to use them.

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Speaker 1: Because if players did not win, what is this game about?

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Speaker 1: We can just turn it.

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Speaker 4: To AI and everybody can get a come on, now,

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Speaker 4: I'm being honest.

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Speaker 1: Are you are you saying some robots out there?

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Speaker 1: Let me say this right here, I'm just curious.

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Speaker 4: Let me sit right here. Okay, Evil Flu's gone by.

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Speaker 4: See you, he ain't here. Okay, the next coach who

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Speaker 3: Now he's in the opposite chair. It's none other than

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Speaker 3: Nate Newton. So, Nate, I asked you before we went

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Speaker 1: Here, you you do business different.

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Speaker 4: You go into free agency and you fix things.

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Speaker 4: Whoever is the best player, and if you and if

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Speaker 4: Willing to pick the highest rated, best player, depending on

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Speaker 4: We do this and we do it like that. No,

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Speaker 3: Osa everything between the tackles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm banking on. Everybody else. Tell me

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you this. If you're in the chair,

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Speaker 1: Which one come? First? Draft? For free agency? Free agency?

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Speaker 1: I'll go get me a linebacker.

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Speaker 4: Okay, in free agency, I'll go get me somebody that

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Speaker 1: That's what I do. I address that right there. Okay,

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Speaker 4: We got this in free agency, not two weeks after

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Speaker 1: Start, get in there and let's do it.

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Speaker 4: See now, y'all listen to mister Jones on today y'all

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Speaker 1: I listened to him differently than the way y'all listen

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Speaker 4: You say you're gonna spend your money holding to it, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: holding to hey, miss John, let's do this free agency.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it, baby.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's good you brought that up, Nate. So

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Speaker 3: So it does seem like They've got a history of

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Speaker 1: You know it.

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Speaker 3: Tell us what you need, you got the here's the

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Speaker 1: There and get it.

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Speaker 3: How much do they need though?

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Speaker 5: Is the thing that's That's what I'm getting at, is

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Speaker 5: how much work? Because you're just thinking about the draft. Yes,

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Speaker 5: you have two first round picks, right, do you feel

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Speaker 5: And or is that a decision that you say, Okay,

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Speaker 5: go from there. Because if you get enough in free

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Speaker 1: I'm on the same page with Nate.

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Speaker 6: You gotta go grocery shopping and free agency for real,

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Speaker 6: you can't do the second week. You gotta get guys

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Speaker 6: So when you play chess with draft picks, you already

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Speaker 6: mess them up this offseason is they didn't have Micah

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Speaker 6: With that being said, had they traded Micah, if that

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Speaker 1: Therefore you might have had a better defense.

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Speaker 6: And I'm going to give you one example of how

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Speaker 6: who is the coordinator before Dan Quinn Mike Nolan right, horrible?

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Speaker 1: They didn't get nothing done. They were terrible.

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Speaker 6: In fact, those three years, not just knowing them, but

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Speaker 6: punching out the ball. They were doing all those things,

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Speaker 6: and they were aggressive. They were primarily man, but they

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Speaker 6: dan Quinn was a failed coordinator because they didn't go

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Speaker 6: the whole team sucked. With that being said, you can

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Speaker 6: which is have your plan going in effect the first

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Speaker 6: the first week of free agency.

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Speaker 1: Then go from there.

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Speaker 4: It's the position that I'm talking about. You don't want.

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Speaker 4: It's a proven fact. Go back and look, it's approven fact.

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Speaker 4: A linebacker in this league, about the middle of his

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Speaker 4: You look at Denver's linebackers, You look at you, you

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Speaker 4: look I can't think of the team we play. You

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Speaker 1: It's a team came in. I can't think of his name.

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Speaker 1: His name is Henley.

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Speaker 3: Uh oh, Dan Henley.

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Speaker 1: That was the Chargers, right, did you see that? They?

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Speaker 4: Agent zero is balling lights out, sacks, pressures, uh, tackles

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Speaker 4: because there's so many nuances to a young guy trying

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Speaker 1: So that is a position that you want to go.

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Speaker 4: Get a veteran with some with with a little tread,

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Speaker 1: If he's not, you get the best available player.

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Speaker 4: Because we have no dominant areas right now that we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So who is that?

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Speaker 6: You know that's a that's a good one defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Well, and let's so let's really quickly we're doing Cowboys

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Speaker 3: crosstalk here on the Dallas Cowboys, right do network. Nate

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Speaker 3: Newton is our primary guest this evening. Let let's do

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Speaker 3: a quick inventory with you, Nate, and I'll just ask

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Speaker 3: you real quick down line, defensive tackle. You feel good

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Speaker 1: Misuses?

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Speaker 3: Okay, edge, I assume you like Azaraku, but I like

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Speaker 3: But really only one linebacker that you feel really good

439
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Speaker 3: about right now? They like Shamar James, but you feel

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Speaker 3: good about one secondary Deron Blance coming off of another injury.

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Speaker 3: Ready Stewart was was decent this here. I thought I

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Speaker 3: was impressed by him. But otherwise your safeties you might

443
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Speaker 3: need to So what we're looking at here, Nate, is

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Speaker 3: probably what one to two corners, one to two safeties,

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Speaker 3: a couple of linebackers, and two edge rushers. That's a

446
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Speaker 3: lot of capital. How do they Where do you look

447
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Speaker 3: at in terms of saying, if you're a winning now team,

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Speaker 3: which positions did you find? Typically, younger players had trouble

449
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Speaker 3: coming in right away, like edge rushers historically as rookies

450
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Speaker 3: don't impact necessarily as well as maybe a rookie linebacker

451
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Speaker 3: does or something like that. Where are the positions that

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Speaker 3: you staggered because you say, I know a veteran kick

453
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Speaker 3: you're here quicker than a rookie.

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Speaker 1: That is where you gotta trust.

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Speaker 4: And Will you know you heard coach say call mister Jones, coach,

456
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Speaker 4: you heard him say today?

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Speaker 1: You know?

458
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Speaker 4: Will them don't pick our players. We do it as

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Speaker 4: coaches and management.

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Speaker 1: They need to leave it up to Will.

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Speaker 4: My thing is, if these guys have done the work,

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Speaker 4: why not have giving them a bigger input if they

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Speaker 4: have done the work, Because I don't see the board,

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Speaker 4: I don't see the.

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Speaker 1: Player until he get the training camp, and when I

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Speaker 1: watched the.

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Speaker 4: Player, we we we have four stars on offense, and

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Speaker 4: they're all that wide receiver and running back and quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But if we had.

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Speaker 4: More than one Pro Bowl offensive lineman, a dominant offensive line,

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Speaker 4: we can tell what the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Our defensive line.

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Speaker 4: Is real quick because you work against how your class

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Speaker 4: level level come to you.

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Speaker 1: That's what I learned when Jimmy got here.

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Speaker 4: Our game picked up because Charles Haley showed up, Tony

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Speaker 4: Toby showed up, Lennon let showed up, Tony.

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Speaker 1: Cassilia showed up.

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Speaker 4: So when you go to training camp and if you

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Speaker 4: know what you're looking at, you don't have you don't

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Speaker 4: you don't shoot them goosts out there, you know, I

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Speaker 4: tell people, and I hope we go against the Rams

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Speaker 4: again in training camp. That is a marker that every

484
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Speaker 4: media guy seems to ignore. But the Rams smashed us

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Speaker 4: again in training camp for and nobody, and.

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Speaker 1: Look where they are today. You get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Believe your eyes.

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Speaker 3: How early in seasons that you played, did you have

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Speaker 3: a handle on how good your football team was? Did

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Speaker 3: you know during the practices or would you find it

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Speaker 3: out once you got into the regular s.

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Speaker 4: Once we had that first winning season and we missed

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Speaker 4: it libit waiting on the Rams to get us in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs, that's when I turned against that theory of

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Speaker 4: watching another team get me in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the right there there, and Michael Irvin was always

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Speaker 4: a gauge of that. Mike, like we coming fellas, just

499
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Speaker 4: keep working, keep going, keep pushing.

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Speaker 1: Then all of a.

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Speaker 4: Sudden that next year it clicked and we started winning

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Speaker 4: and we got played Detroit up and Detroit got smash yep.

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Speaker 1: And and then and then Jimmy put his foot on

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Speaker 1: our neck.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we we end up celebrating Jimmy coming in

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Speaker 4: and shut everything down.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is this is not what we want

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 4: And but then I started looking at the players in

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Speaker 4: the room, and you got to start looking at the players.

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Speaker 1: Leon Lett was no joke in practice.

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Speaker 4: You know you're here Booker talk about Quinny like man

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Speaker 4: with Quinny got here.

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Speaker 1: You know, he really helped me.

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Speaker 4: And now he's one of the better young rookie guards

516
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Speaker 4: in the league. No problem, brother, I'm telling you we

517
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Speaker 4: and we're not far because I know what two or

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Speaker 4: three of the right players. If we can get two

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Speaker 4: or three better players on defense, now.

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Speaker 1: We now we cook it. See, I know we ain't far.

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Speaker 4: But to tell people that, uh, we had a communication problem,

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Speaker 4: how about we had a can't play problem.

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Speaker 1: See, nobody wants to admit they can't play problem because

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing dudes.

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Speaker 4: Uh, if I'm right here on Chris and I'm supposed

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Speaker 4: to break down and tackle Chris and that's supposed.

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Speaker 1: To be my strong suit.

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Speaker 4: And the dude shake me three four times in the

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Speaker 4: same New York game and I'm on my on my

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Speaker 4: stomach trying to tackle him.

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Speaker 1: What does that say? Okay, Eva Flus, now you got

532
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Speaker 1: to come out here and tackle this dude too. See.

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Speaker 4: I know what the popular thing is. I know what

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Speaker 4: the popular thing to say. But do you look at

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Speaker 4: the game A live it further? You know, Eva Flus

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Speaker 4: is gone, Okay, how do we fix this? You know

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Speaker 4: what I was thinking, how we're gonna fix it? During

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Speaker 4: the season, I'm like, well, we're bad. I go all

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Speaker 4: person will.

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Speaker 1: Listen to me with my wife, nobody ever listens to me.

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Speaker 3: Let's take that next break and when we come back,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about that how to fix it? Specifically, here's

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Speaker 3: what I want to get into, because we're talking about personnel.

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Speaker 3: Things we need to do there, specifically at the coordinator angle,

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Speaker 3: what kind of philosophy best works with the type of

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Speaker 3: players you have now and then and can kind of

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Speaker 3: work with that to where maybe you can kind of

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Speaker 3: hack your way to a little bit of improvement on

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Speaker 3: the defensive side. Even before we talk about adding players

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Speaker 3: that'll be next here on the SWBC Cowboys Cross.

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Speaker 3: special guest this evening is the man who's been this

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Speaker 3: all year, but he's in the the guest chair of

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Speaker 3: this evening and it's none other than three times Superworld Champ,

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Speaker 3: six time Pro bowler Nate Newton. Nate and you you're, you're,

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Speaker 3: you're in rare form tonight. You're you're passionate, You're you're ready,

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Speaker 3: You're you're you're, you're, you're thunderous. So here's what I

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Speaker 3: wanted to ask you about last year. I think when

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Speaker 3: they when they were looking at bringing in an offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: bringing in offensive coaches, I think something that was important

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Speaker 3: to this front office was, Hey, Terrence Steele's here. He's

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Speaker 3: under contract. We're gonna have Terrence Steele here because of

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Speaker 3: just financially what it means. So when you're coming in

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Speaker 3: here and you're pitching us on why you should get

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Speaker 3: the job, you better have a plan for that guy.

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Speaker 3: You better have your plan for Terrence Steele. And then

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Speaker 3: the best plan we hear for Terrence Steele maybe the

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Speaker 3: one that that you win the job, because that's so

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Speaker 3: important to us. Similarly, I think when they're gonna be

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Speaker 3: talking to defensive coordinators this year, they're probably gonna have

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Speaker 3: some conversations like, hey, Savone Revel, we just put a

585
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Speaker 3: lot of capital in him, you know, just a year.

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Speaker 3: What's your plan for him? To Marvin Overshell, we like him.

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Speaker 1: Do you like him?

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Speaker 3: Because because he's got to be a part of this.

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Speaker 3: How do you see him fitting in? How do you

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Speaker 3: see scheming pressure as as what became the famous line,

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Speaker 3: how do you see so I think they're gonna have

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Speaker 3: someth What would you be asking about those meanings? What

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Speaker 3: would you be saying? Would you say, Hey, I need

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Speaker 3: to know how you're gonna handle this. I need to

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Speaker 3: know what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: The first thing is honesty, and I'll give you give

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Speaker 4: y'all a person up because the young the young Tommy said,

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Speaker 4: can it be both players and coaches? And I agree

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Speaker 4: one hundred and I'll give you three coach two coaches

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Speaker 4: right now where. But it's on the other end of

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Speaker 4: the spectrum. Ben Johnson went to the Chicago Baths and say,

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Speaker 4: this is how I do it. He told this quarterback

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Speaker 4: Lenan Manafis said, man, what all you thought you knew?

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Speaker 4: Throw that out the wonder. We're gonna do something new.

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Speaker 4: Sean Payton went to the Denver Broncos and say, what

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Speaker 4: your thought you knew?

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what wing gonna by. That's what

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Speaker 1: they told another player. The player the coach down and

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Speaker 1: the Texans Pingkrans.

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Speaker 4: They wanted his head man early in the season, but

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Speaker 4: they said, let's see what he gonna do. He controlled

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Speaker 4: his team so it can be both things, a lack

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Speaker 4: of good coaching, but you gotta understand it could be

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Speaker 4: a lack of good good players too, and I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So what I'm saying is.

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Speaker 4: This right here, when you're acting a coach, especially a

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Speaker 4: coach that knows what he's looking at and maybe not

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Speaker 4: need your job, and saying.

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Speaker 1: That the kids you name, they may be like now, coach,

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Speaker 1: I don't see what you see. No, coach, No, I

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Speaker 1: don't see what you see.

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Speaker 4: See we we think us fans media star, hell mean superstar.

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Speaker 4: That don't make you a superstar. What makes your superstar

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Speaker 4: is going out on the field playing and make him plays.

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Speaker 1: Same with coaches. You do have some coaches that are

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Speaker 1: exception to the rule.

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Speaker 4: And to read Sean Payton, those exceptions to the rule,

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Speaker 4: you know, because we saw quickly what happened to Belichick

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Speaker 4: with no Brady, Oh that's a player.

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Speaker 1: Remember that now.

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Speaker 4: So when you are talking to a guy we love

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Speaker 4: over shown, we love Ready Store, we love this guy,

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Speaker 4: and coach saying.

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Speaker 1: But coach, that dude ain't what you think he is.

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Speaker 4: So now he loses the job and you lose as

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Speaker 4: a good coordinator because he may see it a different way.

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Speaker 1: Well, ain't that ain't how it should work.

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Speaker 4: The bottom line is, if you go out and you

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Speaker 4: interview people, everybody's gonna have I got some If I

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00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 4: look at enough film on Chris, on Tommy and on you,

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Speaker 4: I said, Okay, he can do this and he can

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Speaker 4: do that. Now he can't do what Tommy think he do.

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Speaker 3: My tape's not good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, right, So.

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Speaker 4: It comes to point where you got to evaluate what

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00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: you got, not against what you got.

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Speaker 1: Unless you are elite. We're not elite.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that the next coordinator? And Jerry got

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Speaker 3: asked about to say they've done five coordinators in a row,

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Speaker 3: have previous head coaching experience? Do you think the next

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Speaker 3: coordinator has to be a previous head coach? Or would

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Speaker 3: you just say, no, go find me the guy who's

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Speaker 3: up and coming, Go find me the bright Ben Johnson

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Speaker 3: version of defense? Like, what would you be looking for?

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Speaker 4: I'll be looking for a guy that can communicate with

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Speaker 4: his players. One thing that I heard Shoddy say, and

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Speaker 4: I buy into this because I was one of those players,

659
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Speaker 4: is a guy that whatever it takes to get him

660
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Speaker 4: to learn it, to learn the defense, whatever, it takes.

661
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: But also that player gotta be willing, like, man, we

662
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Speaker 4: may be breaking some NFL rules that you gotta stay

663
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Speaker 4: a little you gotta stay a little later understand what

664
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Speaker 4: we're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: It's three ways of learning.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 3: Some people can athetically hypathetically, yeah, you're not saying that

668
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Speaker 3: actually has gone on here.

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Speaker 1: Some guys can see step Nusk you could see, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he learned that.

671
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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 1: He had write nothing down. Uh. Big e was a writer,

673
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Speaker 1: you know, write it down and he'll have it down. Me.

674
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Speaker 1: I had to see. I had to write it down.

675
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Speaker 1: I could and I had to go do it.

676
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Speaker 3: I think there was I'm trying to remember. Yeah, I'm

677
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Speaker 3: trying to remember who that was that had that. There

678
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Speaker 3: was somebody it was. It was Dak or Dak challenging something.

679
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Speaker 3: I remember there's a story from ESPN of him, like

680
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Speaker 3: somebody being challenged about like open your notebook, let me

681
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Speaker 3: se your notebook, and then there was like nothing in there.

682
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Speaker 3: And then but it's like their visual learners, like you're

683
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Speaker 3: talking about, like that's the thing where some people learn

684
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Speaker 3: it more with the note taking.

685
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Speaker 1: Uh.

686
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Speaker 3: Travis Frederick talked about that. Travis Frederick said, like, I

687
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Speaker 3: was not a big film guy. Actually, he's like, I

688
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Speaker 3: found that film at times would cause me to Yeah,

689
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Speaker 3: He's like, I would overthink and I would analyzed. I

690
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: would start saying, oh, okay, they're gonna throw this at me,

691
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Speaker 3: and then guys would throw counter moves out and that

692
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Speaker 3: it's like because I overthought, He's like, I found that

693
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Speaker 3: it was best sometimes to just worry about me and

694
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Speaker 3: how I play, and then my technique and what I do,

695
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Speaker 3: and so obviously there are just different ways to do

696
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Speaker 3: That was that probably when we talk about it, Hey,

697
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Speaker 3: the player's gotta play, would you say that may have

698
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Speaker 3: been the biggest failure then of this defensive country staff.

699
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Speaker 3: What was being able to figure out how do I

700
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Speaker 3: how do I connect with them to get them to understand.

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Speaker 4: And in the bottom line is understand this right here, fellas.

702
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Speaker 4: You gotta connect to the players. But when you come

703
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 4: into building, you gotta have authority. That authority comes from

704
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Speaker 4: the top. You gotta have authority. He a son a

705
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Speaker 4: son outside the hash tit on this situation twelve yards

706
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Speaker 4: off the ball, that's what we start. If you want

707
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Speaker 4: to go a little bit further back, it's okay with me,

708
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Speaker 4: not when we when that ball st you nine yards up. No, no, no,

709
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Speaker 4: it's no options when you're trying to get the basic

710
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Speaker 4: foundation of an offense or defense. Coach Johnson used to

711
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Speaker 4: always tell me, and even coach and Andrew would tell

712
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Speaker 4: his players, these veteran guys, once you understand where to

713
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Speaker 4: be at what to do, then we will start catering

714
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Speaker 4: to your talents. But we have to get a base

715
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Speaker 4: defense first. You got to start somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: They said today in the press conference that you know,

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Speaker 4: we want a guy that Okay, we don't came out

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Speaker 4: the four three.

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Speaker 1: We don't care about the three four. We no, no dada. Well,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's a three four, but they never line up in it.

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Speaker 4: But maybe ten percent of the time. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: Denver's a three four. They may line up in it

724
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Speaker 4: maybe thirty five percent of the time. So yeah, you

725
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Speaker 4: think they're four man front the way they get after you.

726
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Speaker 4: So I tell pos right here, once you learn the

727
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Speaker 4: basic defense, and you you don't, you don't have so

728
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Speaker 4: many times to practice, We're gonna have a bunch of

729
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Speaker 4: new guys. We if they don't practice OTAs, if they

730
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Speaker 4: don't practice minicamps and they don't practice the preseason. When

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Speaker 4: do they get the reps to even play the basic

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Speaker 4: defense offense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right, So nobody asked that question there, and I.

735
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Speaker 3: Think that that was also when we asked Shoddy about

736
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Speaker 3: this a little bit at the end of year two.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why he kept playing guys after they

738
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Speaker 3: were eliminated to part of his competition. I think part

739
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Speaker 3: of it is with the CBA and other things shot,

740
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Speaker 3: He's like, hey, let's steal some time on task, Like,

741
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Speaker 3: let's spend some time for guys who are gonna be

742
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Speaker 3: here as the core next year. Let's try some stuff.

743
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Speaker 3: They went for it six times on fourth down against Washington.

744
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Speaker 3: Let's try some fourth down stuff that you know we're

745
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: gonna be carrying into next year anyway. Let's get some

746
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Speaker 3: time on that.

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Speaker 8: It.

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Speaker 6: What's the damn shame about what Nate's talking about, as

749
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Speaker 6: far as these guys getting reps or knowing what you got.

750
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 6: When you draft all these guys, people forget and you're

751
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 6: talking about the talent. The talent didn't just all be

752
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 6: bad like that. Then let people walk without replacing him properly.

753
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Speaker 6: Take Lawrence is in Seattle going to the playoffs. Jordan

754
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Speaker 6: Lewis is in Jacksonville going to the playoffs. Uh ric

755
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Speaker 6: o'donno is going to the playoffs of Carolina. We did

756
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Speaker 6: replace him with Javonte Williams. What I'm saying this is

757
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Speaker 6: you should be going after guys that you already know

758
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Speaker 6: are going to be as talented that or close to it. Now,

759
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Speaker 6: I'm just talking about the free agents you're talking about.

760
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Speaker 6: You can't know for a fact in the draft, drafting developments.

761
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Speaker 6: Guess what they could hit the ground running, but guess

762
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Speaker 6: what it might take two.

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Speaker 1: Or three years.

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Speaker 4: Tyler guid the deal that the deal that we have

765
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Speaker 4: to understand is whenever you put a young guy out there,

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Speaker 4: it takes time.

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Speaker 8: You you you.

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Speaker 4: Guide in first year sitting right here with you, I

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Speaker 4: defended him. I defended him, this kid, savone rebel. I'm

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Speaker 4: defending him even though I felt he shouldn't have not

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Speaker 4: touched the field. Still he should have not touched the field.

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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna defend this kid. You know, Thomas said

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Speaker 4: he's gonna be great. Nate, yes, and Tommy, yes, he

774
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Speaker 4: gonna be great. With a training camp, yes, he gonna

775
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Speaker 4: be great. You know, not not you come from stop

776
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Speaker 4: shitting a dude down to Appleachia State. Now you got

777
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Speaker 4: to see this dude from Philadelphia, not one, but two

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Speaker 4: of them beasts.

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Speaker 1: That ain't nothing.

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Speaker 6: Justin Herbert too, That right there will ruin your career

781
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Speaker 6: man psychologically.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean there's there, there's a I think

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Speaker 3: that's a balance too, And I think that's something that

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Speaker 3: they they probably wait is the idea of how much

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Speaker 3: do we want to get him some reps, knock off

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Speaker 3: some russ so he can have a full off season

787
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Speaker 3: and be ready to go, Versus how much do those

788
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Speaker 3: struggles he's inevitably gonna go through, How does he do

789
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Speaker 3: we know he can properly put it in the right

790
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Speaker 3: context of not letting it destroy his competence. Jalen Tolbert

791
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Speaker 3: had a calf strain his rookie year, missed a lot

792
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Speaker 3: of the mini camp stuff, a lot of the rookie stuff,

793
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Speaker 3: and then he ended up getting into training camp being

794
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Speaker 3: behind everybody else. And when he got out there, he

795
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Speaker 3: talked about his confidence was shot when he saw how

796
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Speaker 3: far behind he was and he wasn't able to put

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Speaker 3: it in the right context. He was chasing that confidence,

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Speaker 3: he talked about it. He was chasing that confidence who

799
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Speaker 3: was there. Jalen Tolbert was chasing three years into his career,

800
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Speaker 3: trying to still catch up on that that he had lost.

801
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Speaker 3: So I think you're right too. It's like that you

802
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Speaker 3: got to measure all of those things.

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Speaker 4: This is a league where if you're not healthy and

804
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Speaker 4: you and you go through what a lot of these

805
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Speaker 4: guys go through. Uh, then you come back trying to

806
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Speaker 4: fight through what this kid fin to fight through?

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Savone.

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Speaker 4: Now that Jayleen Tober the same guy. I listen to you,

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Speaker 4: what what's what's the issue now?

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Speaker 3: Oh right, No, Like I think it's that that's the

812
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: the whole discussion is that Did that set him off

813
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Speaker 3: track to where he's always playing catch up with his

814
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Speaker 3: confidence again? And then it just never got to stay point.

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Speaker 3: We'll pick us up on the other side. Yeah, no,

816
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: we can. We're gonna keep going. That is Nate Newton.

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Speaker 3: He is our special guest this evening. We got Chris Arnold,

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Speaker 3: Tommy our time, Bobby w Cowvis, crowds talk. When we

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Speaker 3: come back. As we wrap things up, we'll see how

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Speaker 3: much more Nate's carrying over from the break that he

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Speaker 3: wants to talk about. We'll do that next crowds talk.

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Speaker 8: O cow.

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Speaker 3: back to the Cowboys Cup, final segment of the final

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Speaker 3: episode of the twenty twenty five season. Here of the

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Speaker 3: five fan, got Tommy Yurs, me Dallascowboys dot Com, Chris

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Speaker 3: Arnold from one to five to the fan, and then

835
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Speaker 3: we've got Nate Newton with us today. Nate's still shaking

836
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Speaker 3: his head from the from the break conversation about that.

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Speaker 3: I got, I got what we We've look the defenses.

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Speaker 3: It was bad this year. It was really bad. We

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Speaker 3: know that, and it's got to get better. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to just completely leave solutions for potentially even making

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00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: the offense better on the table before we get a

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Speaker 3: chance to get out of here, so I just I

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Speaker 3: want to ask you a couple of questions. They talked

844
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Speaker 3: about Tyler Smith today. He had been looking for clarity,

845
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: said did not sound like he wanted to play tackle.

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Speaker 3: Necessarily said he would, but clearly sounded like he preferred guard.

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Speaker 3: Shot he said, today, yeah, talk to him. I think

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Speaker 3: he said he talked to him today. Yeah, yeah, he said,

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Speaker 3: told him, Hey, you're a guard until we need you

850
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Speaker 3: to be a tackle, and if we need you to

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Speaker 3: be a tackle, you're gonna be a tackle. And it's

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Speaker 3: one of the more blunt times I think we've heard. Shot.

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Speaker 3: He like describes his interactions to the places they respected

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Speaker 3: each other, didn't It didn't sound like it was an issue.

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Speaker 3: But your thought on what's the best way to proceed

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Speaker 3: with the way the offensive line is set right now?

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Speaker 4: Strength with your left tackle, that that the left guard

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Speaker 4: that played left tackle for three games. Your strength would

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Speaker 4: be your middle of your your offense. You you you

860
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Speaker 4: can't leave the middle of your offense week. You know

861
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Speaker 4: you can deal with outside forces, but you cannot deal

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Speaker 4: with you gotta look at your division. What in our

863
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Speaker 4: division tells you we better not, We better not put

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Speaker 4: put this boy inside.

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Speaker 1: We gotta do that. Yeah, and we gotta.

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Speaker 3: You have two of that. You arguably the two best

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Speaker 3: defensive tackles in football in your division at Jalen Carter

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Speaker 3: and Texter.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so you you you gotta take care of that.

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Speaker 4: The whole NFC is built like that, getting after you.

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Speaker 4: You've seen Seattle. That's why Tank he's doing what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: It ain't that Tank got better when he left here.

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Speaker 1: He just surround.

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Speaker 4: He's got about four or five dogs up front. That's

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Speaker 4: that's hunting with it. So I tell people like, right here,

876
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 4: you have to be strong somewhere, and why not let

877
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: it be the middle of your offense Because any quarterback

878
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 4: worthing salt On tell you I'd rather step up and

879
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 4: find a open pocket than to be sprinting out, always

880
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 4: trying to throw from one side of the field.

881
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, I learned that after Mark two

882
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: and they got all the money.

883
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, why y'all pay him all the money

884
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 4: if I got to be the guy to make sure

885
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 4: he can run the dude round the loop.

886
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. But I tell people

887
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: that he's right here.

888
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 4: You have to play this kid at left guard, not

889
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: because he's the greatest left guard, one of the greaves

890
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: of guard. But because it makes your middle of your

891
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: you don't have to worry as much. You take him out.

892
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 1: You need Cooper BB.

893
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 4: That ain't gonna be nothing nice. Yeah, you know, And

894
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: so you got Booker in him. Booker's coming. Now you

895
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: got BB. He's trying to be a bulldog. Now you

896
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 4: can sustain something.

897
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 6: So you say and keep still where he is on

898
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 6: the right and keep Tyler got win.

899
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: He kind's hell. No, no, no, no, no, no no.

900
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: I did not say that. I did not say that.

901
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 4: That's Chris said that. Go once in this it's another position.

902
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 4: I think we should attack with free agency. There you go,

903
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: which one one of those tackles? Which would you Which

904
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: do you think you got?

905
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: You're not gonna nobody giving up no left tackle. You

906
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 1: forget that. No, go I didn't find your right time.

907
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: Go out and find your right tack.

908
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 6: In other words, that's still because you could save money

909
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 6: by cutting steel.

910
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: To something, you know, So go go out and find

911
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: your right tackle. You know. Still is one of the

912
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: few players that and I'm serious that I hate talk.

913
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: The kid is.

914
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: He's nice, he is he is a man and he

915
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 3: is one of he has been routinely over the past

916
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: five years talked about is one of the hardest offseason working.

917
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, he's a man. So I'm saying to myself, Man,

918
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: if his abilities was in it was his heart was

919
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

920
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 4: Uh So that's one of the few guys that you know,

921
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: you hear me say, wow, you know. But anyway, that's

922
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 4: what I would do. The two positions I would address

923
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 4: in free agency is attack in a line back.

924
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 3: How do they get to the point where, especially in

925
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: the second half of the season, I think you saw

926
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: occasionally they'd cross into the twenties and you'd tighten up

927
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 3: in the red zone. They weren't always able to execute

928
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: down there. Sometimes they would get down there and it

929
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: felt like, all right, we're settling for a field goal here.

930
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 3: Too often trading touchdow or trading you know, touchdowns for

931
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 3: field goals. How do they go about maximizing things? I

932
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: know Clayton Adams talked last week, I think about the

933
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: thing he was most excited about drilling down I was

934
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 3: how do I maximize Pickens and Lamb to be too

935
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: like maximum capability and ability type of receivers. How do

936
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: they get better at at converting those two touchdowns more

937
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: often this offseason? What is his name?

938
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? How about using yeah?

939
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: He played, he continued to progress.

940
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 4: How about using the dude what is sixteen feet tall

941
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 4: and got good hands, big hands?

942
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: Using Yeah, he's a beast. You you see him, he

943
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: caught a touchdown.

944
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 4: Coach, if the thing that makes me, the thing that

945
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: makes me laugh is we have some players I think

946
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: on the squad, but uh.

947
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: They're not being used.

948
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: And and uh, I tell you what, Coach shattys sitting

949
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 4: right in this place where we're at today.

950
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: You know what, coach, when you get down there and.

951
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 4: There's five six, I mean it's it's five or six inches,

952
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 4: run the ball, Run the ball man. Yeah, everybody want

953
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 4: to make the red zone of them? Five them last

954
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 4: five The greatest hardest task in the world. Run the football.

955
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: Shoty run it you got Javonte? Yes, that's simple, bro.

956
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 3: Would you As we finished up this with some offensive

957
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: questions here flinoy and what you got out of him

958
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: this year? Do you think your receiver said, is that

959
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: a legit third NFL receiver?

960
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: You think that is our third receiving now?

961
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: Now, you can put number nine back in his rightful

962
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 4: place so he can excel at that with all his heart.

963
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: Put him back in his rightful place. Yeah, and now

964
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: he will.

965
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: We will, we will, Our special teams will pick right

966
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: back up where left off.

967
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 7: That.

968
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 4: This is the guy you've been waiting on. Now, please

969
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 4: listen to me. Franchise tag the big Dog. Make sure

970
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 4: for the Noah, no you ain't. You ain't getting this job,

971
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 4: so the media don't beat it. Ain't that ain't it fans,

972
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: that ain't it. He's a third down receiver that can

973
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 4: make plays very good.

974
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 3: That is Nate, and dude it Nate. It was great tonight.

975
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: It was great all season. Love doing it all season.

976
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. Can't wait to do it again next year. Yeah,

977
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 3: I'm reaching over, okay before we go, because we got

978
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 3: eighty golfer, right, yeah, an eighty golfer sub eighty. It's

979
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: just eighty because I haven't gone yet. After a few

980
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: times out there, muscle memory sixty five, I think I

981
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 3: need to thank everyone who works on the show makes

982
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: it possible for us all year, Ivan who engineers it

983
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: for us every week, Ken for subbing in when Ivan's out,

984
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: Tony for booking the great Cowboys alumni we get to

985
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 3: speak with every week, Devin, Yasmine, Paul, they do a

986
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: great job, make sure everything around the video, Allison, who's

987
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 3: essentially the CEO of this thing. And then of course

988
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: a birthday, the true president of it.

989
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: A birthday and I want to show it to eat.

990
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: The wonderful Michelle Newton for keeping my wife company all year.

991
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm Bobby bel thank you so much for joining us

992
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: this season on Cowboys Cross Socle.

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