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Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, October first, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,
Speaker 1: episode number If you welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, and
Speaker 1: we're ready to talk to the Cowboys football. Cowboys get
Speaker 1: a big win yesterday. They moved to two and two
Speaker 1: with a win over the Detroit Lions twenty six, twenty four,
Speaker 1: a game that came down to the wire. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: had a game winning drive, Brett Maher had a game
Speaker 1: winning field goal. Everything in that game seemed to look
Speaker 1: up for the Cowboys. So we're gonna paint that rosy
Speaker 1: picture for you today. I'm sure dave some things that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can improve on. Just it fits with the personality, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you tend to be one that kind of
Speaker 1: brings brings realism back to moments when we kind of
Speaker 1: get a little bit ahead of ourselves, right, I want
Speaker 1: to argue with you, but yeah, you're right, all right,
Speaker 1: good ahead. So we're gonna talk about that, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about what went right and wrong for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and then we'll get into Nick's five plays that you
Speaker 1: should not overlook. And these are the plays that were
Speaker 1: otherwise not necessarily grand in and of themselves. But what
Speaker 1: happened as a result of those plays or did not
Speaker 1: happen to happen as a result of those plays, and
Speaker 1: why they were significant to the game and the outcome.
Speaker 1: So we'll do all that throughout the show. Let's first
Speaker 1: jump right in, and as we do every Monday, I
Speaker 1: want to hear from each of you, guys, what's the
Speaker 1: storyline of this game. What's the thing do you walk
Speaker 1: away from this game thinking that you know better about
Speaker 1: this team. We'll start first with Dave. I don't think
Speaker 1: I know anything about this team that I didn't already know.
Speaker 1: My main storyline coming out of today is good or yesterday.
Speaker 1: Good things can happen when you make a dedicated effort
Speaker 1: to put the ball in the hands of your absolute
Speaker 1: best player. Obviously, Ezekiel Elliott did whatever he wanted to
Speaker 1: on the ground. He's also as involved as he's ever
Speaker 1: been in the passing game. Another screen passed to the
Speaker 1: house to get things going, and then shocker of shockers
Speaker 1: throw to the ball, throwing the ball down the field
Speaker 1: to set up the game winning field goal. He can
Speaker 1: do those types of things. He doesn't get the chance
Speaker 1: often enough. I was very happy to see that. And
Speaker 1: then you know, Dak Prescott played like a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: He played like the guy that we've seen him play
Speaker 1: like for what twenty five games over the course of
Speaker 1: his rookie year and part of last year. We hadn't
Speaker 1: seen it to this point, and it's encouraging because I
Speaker 1: don't think he has to do that much differently to
Speaker 1: be that guy. You know, it's one game, but it
Speaker 1: was really encouraging to see that again. I think I
Speaker 1: said yesterday, this is that's what I expected Dallas offense
Speaker 1: to look like in the preseason. Not a you know,
Speaker 1: not this like world beating passing game, but you got
Speaker 1: enough complimentary players to make plays centered around the fact
Speaker 1: that Ezekiel Elliott is an All Pro, best in the
Speaker 1: league caliber talent. That's what it looked like amber. It
Speaker 1: was encouraging. Okay, fine, sorry, jeez, let's all chill out
Speaker 1: for a second ever speaking now, no um Well, not
Speaker 1: to take away um seek greatness, but he was playing
Speaker 1: against one of the worst run defenses. But even then,
Speaker 1: so basically what I'm trying to say, I'm not surprised
Speaker 1: that he had the kind of success that he had.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I enjoyed like watching was
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott being able to make those throws and even
Speaker 1: though he didn't make all of them, still it's good
Speaker 1: to see him attempt making them. And again he is
Speaker 1: able to make certain throws. But just being able to
Speaker 1: watch the confidence and just to be able to feel
Speaker 1: okay with like risking it and throwing the pass. That
Speaker 1: was exciting to see. And I want to keep seeing that.
Speaker 1: Sean Lee. They didn't have Sean Lee. They did a
Speaker 1: nice job without him. They won a game without Sean
Speaker 1: vander Esch looked like he was a good edition there.
Speaker 1: He looks like he kept telling me that throughout the game.
Speaker 1: You were like, man, that kids playing, Yeah, but they'll
Speaker 1: they'll they'll get give him more tackles than what I'm
Speaker 1: four or five or six. Whatever they gave him, he'll
Speaker 1: give him more than that. He I thought he had
Speaker 1: a lot more than that. DeMarcus Lawrence. They didn't get
Speaker 1: any good They didn't get a lot of pass rush,
Speaker 1: but he actually did. I mean, he had three sacks
Speaker 1: and he had some big plays, but they did. I
Speaker 1: don't think they got a lot of pass rush, but
Speaker 1: it certainly looked like with him. They won a game.
Speaker 1: Without him, their defense was if he at times, but
Speaker 1: they were able to win. We're gonna get into all
Speaker 1: those topics. I think the first one I want to
Speaker 1: start with is Ezekiel Elliott. Obviously, he was the player
Speaker 1: of the game for the Cowboys yesterday, and without his effort,
Speaker 1: I don't know that they win that game. He was
Speaker 1: the first player in the n IFL this season to
Speaker 1: have over two hundred yards from scrimmage. He had He
Speaker 1: had a total of two hundred and forty yards total
Speaker 1: from scrimmage, first to do with the NFL this season.
Speaker 1: That's the third of his career, which ties him for
Speaker 1: the lead since twenty and sixteen of any player to
Speaker 1: have three in three total games where he's at over
Speaker 1: two hundred yards total yardage. What was the difference yesterday.
Speaker 1: Was it the offensive line? Was it just as Amber
Speaker 1: alluded to. Was it that you're playing a team that
Speaker 1: the run defense just isn't very good. Was it that
Speaker 1: the play calling maybe helped him because they were throwing
Speaker 1: the ball down feel a little bit more yesterday? What
Speaker 1: do you think it was? It really helps z yesterday
Speaker 1: be able to have the stellar day that he did.
Speaker 1: I think ahead it was the best coaching, you know,
Speaker 1: job that we've seen so far from this team. I mean,
Speaker 1: they get killed all the time when they lose. They
Speaker 1: did a really nice job with a lot of things
Speaker 1: during the game. Yeah, down there late in the game,
Speaker 1: they almost lost it by not giving him the ball
Speaker 1: maybe more, But I thought for the most part, they
Speaker 1: call it a good game, and you know, no one
Speaker 1: wants to hear this, but they managed the game well too.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, I mean he managed the game. We only
Speaker 1: talked about it on losses, but they did a nice
Speaker 1: job of doing just enough leading the clock to the
Speaker 1: point where, you know, not getting in a hurry after
Speaker 1: Zeke play. I thought the coaching staff should get a
Speaker 1: little bit of credit for this one combination. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, worst run defense in the league. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can look past that, which is funny because
Speaker 1: Dak had, you know, this nice day against the best
Speaker 1: past defense in the league. I think three games is
Speaker 1: not a great sample size to determine who's the best.
Speaker 1: Three games is a pretty good sample size to determine
Speaker 1: if you're the worst. You know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: mean if everybody you play can run for one sixty
Speaker 1: to one night. And by the way, these were not
Speaker 1: premier running backs that were doing this them other than
Speaker 1: this week. It wasn't like they were facing girly Isaiah Crowell,
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle and Matt Breida in San Francisco. So yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think you absolutely, you absolutely have to look at that.
Speaker 1: Actually you gotta look at that. But having said that,
Speaker 1: I mean the commitment. I mean, he got the twenty
Speaker 1: five carries. People were clamoring for him. But to go
Speaker 1: back to my point, you know, sixteen rushes in Seattle's
Speaker 1: not the reason why they lost. You know, if you're run,
Speaker 1: if you run for one sixty, you should be able
Speaker 1: to win in the NFL. I still believe that. I'll
Speaker 1: say it again, I'm so happy that he got involved
Speaker 1: in the passing game. A quote from from Dak really
Speaker 1: stood out to me after the game because he's like, well,
Speaker 1: we saw, we saw Zeke matched up one on one
Speaker 1: with a linebacker and I'll take that match up every day.
Speaker 1: Well can we see it more then? Yeah? Because you can.
Speaker 1: You can create that. Yeah, like you should be able to.
Speaker 1: And that's you know again, did create that? Huh? They
Speaker 1: did create? Yea what I'm saying. But that's but truth,
Speaker 1: Like they can create. I know. That's the thing. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about five plays, but what's not on
Speaker 1: there is the play before the thirty yard is it?
Speaker 1: Thirty yard passed to Zeke the last one of the
Speaker 1: thirty eight? Yeah, that one. The play before that, Zeke
Speaker 1: lines up in the slot, does nothing, just kind of
Speaker 1: does like a two yard out, turns around nothing. There's
Speaker 1: a pass over the middle, almost intercepted. Next play, same spot,
Speaker 1: he just runs by the guy. So that was a
Speaker 1: nice job of kind of setting that up a little
Speaker 1: bit and go all right, we're gonna put Zeke out there.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna do anything. And then he goes and
Speaker 1: they win the game. Wait, and that's awesome, which, as usual,
Speaker 1: I haven't had time to rewatch the game. I plan
Speaker 1: on doing that. But that's these are things that you're
Speaker 1: all pro running backs should be doing on a weekly basis,
Speaker 1: and that's I don't He doesn't need to run the
Speaker 1: ball thirty times to win, but he needs to touch
Speaker 1: the ball somewhere around twenty five thirty times, receiving, running
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. He's that type of back and
Speaker 1: with the other talent in the skill positions on this offense,
Speaker 1: he has to be He needs to be this type
Speaker 1: of engine for this team to be good. That being said, yesterday,
Speaker 1: after the game, he looked like he was beat up
Speaker 1: pretty good, and so it begs the question, as everybody
Speaker 1: expects and wants to see more of him because they
Speaker 1: feel like that's the necessary thing you have to do.
Speaker 1: Is it practical to assume that the Cowboys can give
Speaker 1: him thirty touches per game or is he gonna endo
Speaker 1: and him actually be able to make it through a season,
Speaker 1: Because he did not look good after that game. He
Speaker 1: was he was limping pretty good, and it seemed like
Speaker 1: that was something that happened to him early in the game,
Speaker 1: so obviously didn't affect his production, but over sixteen weeks,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of pounding. It was surprising. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've never seen that with Zeke, where you know, he
Speaker 1: was coming in and out of the game, he was limping.
Speaker 1: That's not something that we're used to. But he's twenty four.
Speaker 1: I'm okay right now. I think he can handle it.
Speaker 1: Especially he hasn't been getting that kind of workload the
Speaker 1: first three weeks either, so well, you know, and we
Speaker 1: don't need to talk about what they're gonna do after
Speaker 1: this season, but you know, there's been some talk about
Speaker 1: giving him a new contract at the end of this year.
Speaker 1: Do you want to take this three years and make it,
Speaker 1: you know, five more years on top of that, make
Speaker 1: him an eight year type player And if that happens,
Speaker 1: then that's something you need to kind of think about
Speaker 1: on the long haul. Now, there has been some talk
Speaker 1: about getting him for five years and just see what
Speaker 1: happens after that, almost running him into the ground, which
Speaker 1: is you know, we had an argument about this on
Speaker 1: our show. I think back a training camp. I don't
Speaker 1: think you were on that. Nate was on that Nate.
Speaker 1: It was me and Nate against you, I believe, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know which way did it line up? Nick? Nick
Speaker 1: is trying to preserve him, and me and Nate were like,
Speaker 1: he's twenty five or four year old running back, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's do this. I mean, there's gotta be a combination
Speaker 1: of you know, both in the middle, but you know,
Speaker 1: to be limping like that and still run the you
Speaker 1: know down the field and make that play. That was
Speaker 1: probably his Dak's best throw though of the game, don't
Speaker 1: you think. I mean, because this isn't like hearns or
Speaker 1: gallop that is, that's what they do. They go up
Speaker 1: and make plays that have to be right there. For
Speaker 1: if it's a running back, you kind of have to
Speaker 1: put it right there. But see, I think you have
Speaker 1: a really good backup in rod Smith that you're able
Speaker 1: to give Zeke a little bit of rest and helping
Speaker 1: out where you don't have to rely on Zeek and
Speaker 1: put all the weight just on him. You can balance
Speaker 1: it out just enough for just perfectly to where you're
Speaker 1: giving him a bit of rest but at the same
Speaker 1: time getting a good amount of production from rod Smith.
Speaker 1: It's twenty five to six in the carries, but most
Speaker 1: teams are a lot of teams are going to do
Speaker 1: that in the more of a twenty to eleven twenty
Speaker 1: to ten range. Do you do you want that at
Speaker 1: a rod Smith and Zeke? Because I wis fans would
Speaker 1: say no. I will say this though, if if I'm
Speaker 1: getting though, if I'm getting a few more touches for
Speaker 1: Zeke in the passing game, I'm okay with that because
Speaker 1: I feel like right now they're underutilizing him in the
Speaker 1: passing game. So if they give him a few more
Speaker 1: touches that happen in the passing game and they take
Speaker 1: a few of those carries that he would normally have
Speaker 1: and give them a rod Smith, I'm all good. I agree,
Speaker 1: And you would like to think he will likely take
Speaker 1: less of a pounding as a receiver as a runner,
Speaker 1: which yeah, I mean, this is an awesome start. And
Speaker 1: you can't expect them to have eighty eight in a
Speaker 1: touchdown in the passing game every week, but four to
Speaker 1: six receptions for forty to sixty yards per week is
Speaker 1: and can be doable. Like that's every other elite running
Speaker 1: back in the league does that, um, And so I
Speaker 1: hope that this is a trend that continues. You know.
Speaker 1: I he had a lot of different stats, a lot
Speaker 1: of milestone yesterday. Like you said, first one to get
Speaker 1: two hundred yards in a game. But you know, I thought,
Speaker 1: in Cowboy's history, one hundred and fifty yards, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a really good day. It's not like unbelievable. It's
Speaker 1: a good day. One hundred and fifty yards, seventy five receiving,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty rushing, seventy five receiving, and it's
Speaker 1: never been it's never been done before. I thought that really. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that was a good one. Herschel Walker and
Speaker 1: even Emmett, you know, to have a few screens and
Speaker 1: stuff like that door set, you know, but for one
Speaker 1: fifty you're doing your job as a runner. But then
Speaker 1: also Emmy had eighty eight. It's amazing, So I thought
Speaker 1: that was a stat that was pretty interesting. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: absolutely phenomenal. And that's I mean, as many crazy days
Speaker 1: as he's had, it says a lot that he's never
Speaker 1: done something like that, But I look, but also just
Speaker 1: talks about how much they haven't utilized him in the
Speaker 1: passing game, which they should. And I don't mean this
Speaker 1: as disrespect because honestly, I thought there were so many
Speaker 1: unsung heroes in the passing game. I'm I want to
Speaker 1: write something about given the small sample size of opportunities
Speaker 1: that he's had, I think the world of the small
Speaker 1: role that Alan Hearns is playing right now. Like it
Speaker 1: seems like every catch he makes is contested and it
Speaker 1: converts a first down. It doesn't look I mean, he's
Speaker 1: got eighty one receiving yards on the season. It's not
Speaker 1: like he's heading for the Pro Bowl. But point being,
Speaker 1: with these types of players in the passing game, I
Speaker 1: think you need that. And that's what we've talked about
Speaker 1: this whole time is Zeke needs to be playing like
Speaker 1: this for this offense to function, which that probably says
Speaker 1: something else about you know when you do well. We
Speaker 1: knew that, no, exactly, That's how he was built. It
Speaker 1: was built like that. Yes, right, yes, you have something now.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I looked it up from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys sister, and you should look up NFL and
Speaker 1: just see where that would have been. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's happened. I'm assuming Marshall Falk has done Probably
Speaker 1: that was a regular stat line. LT's probably done that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. All right, Um, let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about a Dak Prescott and just by the by the way,
Speaker 1: a little side note for you guys that are in
Speaker 1: the Dallas area this afternoon, Dak will actually be out
Speaker 1: here at the Star and available for fans to come out,
Speaker 1: take pictures, get autographs. He's going to be promoting his
Speaker 1: new Dak collections, which all the proceeds will go to
Speaker 1: the Faith Finished Fight Foundation that he has in support
Speaker 1: of breast cancer awareness. So he'll be out here from
Speaker 1: four to five thirty this afternoon if you're in the
Speaker 1: area and want to come by. But talking about how
Speaker 1: he played yesterday, he was seventeen of twenty seven, sixty
Speaker 1: three percent completion rate, two hundred and fifty five yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no interceptions, quarterback rating of one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighteen point six, And I thought, really the highlight of
Speaker 1: his day in my opinion, was the three downfield throws
Speaker 1: he had. And the reason why was not so much
Speaker 1: because obviously one of me connected on that was a
Speaker 1: that was a really big play for them in the
Speaker 1: game to gallop and obviously the game the play to
Speaker 1: probably win the game to Zeke downfield. But I was
Speaker 1: just as impressed with a throw he threw Tavon in
Speaker 1: the end zone because all three of those throws not
Speaker 1: only their downfield, but they were throws that were right
Speaker 1: on the money. Even to throw the Tavon Tavon probably
Speaker 1: should have caught that, it would have been a bit
Speaker 1: of a tough catch. But he put all those throws
Speaker 1: right where they needed to be, right on the money,
Speaker 1: And to me, that was that started to change my
Speaker 1: opinion a little bit on what I started to think
Speaker 1: about Dak from the standpoint of his ability to really
Speaker 1: be able to be accurate down feel how do you
Speaker 1: guys feel about his performance and about the ability to
Speaker 1: get the ball downfield yesterday? I don't think the question
Speaker 1: has ever been can he do it? I think it's
Speaker 1: more how constant can he be with it? And we've
Speaker 1: seen this before. I'm not surprised to see these kinds
Speaker 1: of throws from him because I've seen that happen. The
Speaker 1: point is how constant can you be? How much longer
Speaker 1: can you keep doing this for? And to me yesterday,
Speaker 1: I'm excited And I was getting a lot of fans
Speaker 1: on Twitter last night just talking so much crap still
Speaker 1: like there's always someone wanting to talk crap of all everything,
Speaker 1: But quit talking crap, enjoy this win. Dad, did good.
Speaker 1: He made throws. The receivers have some fall and not
Speaker 1: catching the ball like the table On one. But that
Speaker 1: was perfect. That basically landed almost in table On sentence.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was perfect, but it's it
Speaker 1: looked perfect. It needs it's well and that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's in tight coverage. It's dac it's it's not Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: That's not I mean, he's not gonna just drop it
Speaker 1: in a bucket from forty yards out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not the right receiver to be running that past
Speaker 1: in my opinion, because he's too little the ball by
Speaker 1: the time the ball gets down to him. Anybody's go
Speaker 1: up and get that ball. I mean you're five eight,
Speaker 1: so by the time it comes down into your hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all pro cornerback like Darius Slay is gonna knock it
Speaker 1: out like that. To me, that's not the right play.
Speaker 1: Great pass, but that's a very low percentage pack. I'd
Speaker 1: rather throw the ball up to. Rico didn't really knock
Speaker 1: it out. I mean he put his hand in there.
Speaker 1: Put his hand, I mean he got in between the
Speaker 1: player and the ball. He did, and he got it.
Speaker 1: Also one hundred and seventy five pound player, you know
Speaker 1: who I mean, just that's not Tavon. Austin's thing is
Speaker 1: to go deep and make that type of contest, to
Speaker 1: play his plays open field and stuff like that. Good
Speaker 1: good throw, you know where it needed to be. But
Speaker 1: that they thought they could still win on sleigh and
Speaker 1: he did a nice job of getting back in there.
Speaker 1: I think the encouraging thing for me and also baffling
Speaker 1: is we didn't see Dak do a single thing that
Speaker 1: he's never done before. You know, he took what he threw.
Speaker 1: The ball to Zeke that set up the game winner
Speaker 1: might be the best throw of his career. It's certainly,
Speaker 1: it's certainly in the conversation. But the ball to Tavon
Speaker 1: was I mean, it was where it needed to be.
Speaker 1: It was a good throw. It wasn't like this just
Speaker 1: unbelievable dime. Same thing goes for the gallot ball, like
Speaker 1: he can be accurate on those throws. He's gallot ball.
Speaker 1: You didn't think that was a perfect throw. I mean
Speaker 1: he put it right where he had to get it. It
Speaker 1: It was a good throw. Like it's not leading Sports Center,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying. It was a good throw. I
Speaker 1: think to me, maybe calling it perfect comes from the
Speaker 1: fact that we don't see many of this which throws
Speaker 1: happening from Dak that Aaron Rodgers perfect, And of course
Speaker 1: not that goes back perfect. That goes back to my point.
Speaker 1: Like Dak's you know, he's got to take three or
Speaker 1: four of these per game, and you need him to
Speaker 1: hit on probably half of him, and he did yesterday.
Speaker 1: But did you okay the Zeke throw, but the gallop throw?
Speaker 1: Was it something you've never seen him do before? Not necessarily,
Speaker 1: but like Amber said, I don't think I've done it
Speaker 1: seen with consistency after these last ten, eleven, twelve games.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing that yesterday I felt like for
Speaker 1: all three of those downfield throws, to me, he placed
Speaker 1: the ball right where he needed to place it. Now, again,
Speaker 1: some of them aren't going to always those those are
Speaker 1: hard passes to complete, but especially when the receivers and
Speaker 1: in all three of those instances, except for maybe the
Speaker 1: Zeke one, they were they didn't have a lot of separation.
Speaker 1: I mean, it had to be right on point. And
Speaker 1: that's why I love the gallop throw because although you
Speaker 1: say it wasn't like this miraculous throw. It was right
Speaker 1: where it had to be and the defender was only
Speaker 1: a step behind him. So if it was not placed
Speaker 1: right in the perfect position, I don't know that he
Speaker 1: can come up with that catch. I thought his two
Speaker 1: best plays though, were an incomplete pass in a nine
Speaker 1: yard throw to Beasley. You know, I thought those that
Speaker 1: passed to Beasley and it's one of those five plays
Speaker 1: that we talked about, but it's that was a great
Speaker 1: play for by him because he had the patience to
Speaker 1: wait for Beasley to get open and then he had
Speaker 1: to just revert into some maybe some old baseball playing
Speaker 1: days and just sidearm that thing in there like that.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a great throw. That's the kind
Speaker 1: of stuff this, these these deep balls. This is what
Speaker 1: we see in Patton Go. That's kind of what they do.
Speaker 1: Get the ball, throw it, but when things break down,
Speaker 1: what can you do in the pocket like that? I
Speaker 1: completely sorry, go ahead and I just say that to me.
Speaker 1: The nine yard throw to Beasley to set up fourth
Speaker 1: and one, I thought that was really big. I completely
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And the deep ball is in
Speaker 1: a crucial element of football. You gotta be able to
Speaker 1: hit him and more importantly, you got to take the shots.
Speaker 1: Like they didn't throw down field once against Seattle. They
Speaker 1: didn't even try. That's worth mentioning and criticizing. But like
Speaker 1: it's four or five throws a game. I don't care
Speaker 1: about that remotely as much as I care about that
Speaker 1: setting up the fourth and one to convert. And then
Speaker 1: uh yeah, how about second and eleven where it looked
Speaker 1: like it might be going south and he finds Beasley
Speaker 1: for nineteen yards, Like having the the poise to hang
Speaker 1: in there and make those types of throw like, that's
Speaker 1: what keeps this offense moving, not these deep shots. Again,
Speaker 1: it's important, there's a place for it, but to make
Speaker 1: those types of decisions. And then yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't believe we got almost twenty minutes into the show
Speaker 1: and we haven't talked about that throwaway. I mean, the
Speaker 1: game's over if he doesn't get that ball, and even
Speaker 1: if he just falls on it, the game's still probably
Speaker 1: over because now it's second or third and which is
Speaker 1: twenty something, which is what I think they teach you
Speaker 1: to do. You know, it's fallowing the ball down there.
Speaker 1: We've been used to watching Tony Romo's years, so we
Speaker 1: don't assume that we assume you pick it up and
Speaker 1: you try to make a play second and three from
Speaker 1: the Dallas thirty two. Dak recovers at the nineteen. So
Speaker 1: if he just falls on the ball, you're talking about
Speaker 1: like second and third and seventh done, you have to
Speaker 1: call time out, which they're pinning there. They're pinning their
Speaker 1: years back on the third down, you're just gonna have
Speaker 1: to throw up a prayer instead. You know, I hesitate
Speaker 1: to compare it to Romo because Romo did some crazy
Speaker 1: stuff in situation. Saint Louis is what comes to mind,
Speaker 1: But I mean the wherewithal the game's over if he
Speaker 1: doesn't play that exactly the way he did, and for
Speaker 1: him to have the poise to do it was incredible.
Speaker 1: Let's take our first break. When we come back, I
Speaker 1: do want to talk about this defense. It was the
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Speaker 1: segment of The Break Live from the s WBC Mortgage
Speaker 1: studios at the Star talk about the Cowboys big win yesterday,
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty four at AT and T Stadium over
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. We've talked about the offense quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Let's move over to the defensive side of the ball
Speaker 1: and I'll start first with the quarterback Matthew Stafford. He
Speaker 1: was twenty four thirty eighty percent completion rate. That's a
Speaker 1: really really great number. Three hundred and seven yards, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no interceptions, one hundred and thirty one point five quarterback rating.
Speaker 1: All in all a good day. You look at his
Speaker 1: three top wide receivers. Golden Tate had eight catches one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two yards, two touchdowns, Kenny Galladay had
Speaker 1: four catches for seventy four yards, and then Marvin Jones
Speaker 1: had three for fifty six. All in all, the passing
Speaker 1: game for the Lions worked yesterday. That was that was
Speaker 1: a part that really worked. And my question for you
Speaker 1: guys is what did you think of that relative to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys secondary where so far this year we haven't
Speaker 1: really seen them get carved up quite like this, but
Speaker 1: they were having some struggles yesterday. Ben but don't break
Speaker 1: is what they try to play. They broke a few times,
Speaker 1: but you know, they the Lions made themselves, I think
Speaker 1: one dimensional. You know, they had a thirty two yard
Speaker 1: run early in the game and carry on Johnson and
Speaker 1: it looked like the Okay, it's gonna be tough. That
Speaker 1: was their first played again. Yeah, this is gonna be something.
Speaker 1: You know, Now, Stafford's gonna have some help here, and
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't utilize that as much. I mean
Speaker 1: only got nine carries overall, and so I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, they were somewhat one dimensional and when they
Speaker 1: got they got down there, and that the Cowboys did
Speaker 1: a nice job of just picking their spots and getting
Speaker 1: some timely sacks. I mean, it was just it was
Speaker 1: just one of those shootouts, not like high scoring shootouts,
Speaker 1: but it was one of those games where you know,
Speaker 1: the quarterback who has the ball ass is gonna win.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys were probably fortunate that that touchdown came
Speaker 1: with two seventeen to go and not under the two
Speaker 1: minute warning. That's yeah, I mean we say that. That's
Speaker 1: my biggest pet peeve, like the Cowboys leave the opposing
Speaker 1: quarterback too much time. The Lions did it yesterday. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It seems ridiculous that carry On Johnson only
Speaker 1: had had nine carries, But I mean, I thought the
Speaker 1: run defense did a good job of really buckling down
Speaker 1: after I mean thirty two yards on the first play.
Speaker 1: The next one goes for four, then negative one, then one,
Speaker 1: then three, which no, no disrespect to him. I don't
Speaker 1: know why they're trying to make la Garrett blunt a
Speaker 1: thing when they have Carrie on Johnson, like I mean,
Speaker 1: unless it's like the goal line. I like that guy
Speaker 1: a lot, but I don't know when Maybe they just
Speaker 1: when you have that match, a favorable matchup like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were doing whatever they wanted to through
Speaker 1: the air, so maybe they could have tried to wear
Speaker 1: the defense down little bit more running it. But it's
Speaker 1: hard to argue against the numbers that they put up,
Speaker 1: which ironically, I thought Cheeto and Byron both played really well. Yep,
Speaker 1: and begs the question who didn't everybody else? Everybody? I
Speaker 1: think this kind of defense works against this kind of
Speaker 1: quarterback and this kind of passing game. Only when your
Speaker 1: own offense he's able to help you out. I think
Speaker 1: they can do enough to kind of stop it in
Speaker 1: a way. Obviously they're still going to allow certain points,
Speaker 1: but it only helps you win when your office is
Speaker 1: also scoring points and helping you keep the game moving.
Speaker 1: But we'll see how long this offense can play like this,
Speaker 1: and if they keep playing better and helping out the defense,
Speaker 1: I think the team can be really good, good enough
Speaker 1: to get where we all want them to be at.
Speaker 1: So are you concerned about the defense at this point?
Speaker 1: Or was this the result of maybe just a really
Speaker 1: good passing offense they ran into and and they didn't
Speaker 1: get I don't want to because I don't want to
Speaker 1: overstate this. It wasn't like they got destroyed. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: I thought the defense played okay. It just wasn't as
Speaker 1: good as what they've played maybe in some other games
Speaker 1: this season. But I thought they played okay. What do
Speaker 1: you guys think from a standpoint of just relatively speaking
Speaker 1: and big picture speaking about this defense, Well, I think
Speaker 1: that they're they're pretty good. They are pretty good, and
Speaker 1: they've got some some playmakers there, especially with DeMarcus DeMarcus Lawrence. UM,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, today is the first day that um,
Speaker 1: David Irvinge can come back. I'm not sure exactly what
Speaker 1: his role is going to be or if if he's
Speaker 1: even going to be on the roster this week. I
Speaker 1: believe they have a one week they do, you have
Speaker 1: a one week exemption. If they feel like he's not ready,
Speaker 1: they can wait a week and so they don't have
Speaker 1: to make a move. They just he did have him
Speaker 1: in the building and start getting macclimated. And that's important
Speaker 1: because of what happened to Antoine Woods. He's hurt and
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll be able to play next week.
Speaker 1: He was injury, calf injury and a big guy like
Speaker 1: that as a calf injury, that's he's ruled out of
Speaker 1: the game. It could be somewhat, you know, somewhat serious
Speaker 1: enough for he might not play. I think Jerry even
Speaker 1: said he won't play next week. He said he doesn't
Speaker 1: know if he'll be available, doesn't know if so, well
Speaker 1: for Jerry to say that, right and to say that,
Speaker 1: to get Irving on the team, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: cut someone. So who do you cut? And knowing that
Speaker 1: you have to not only replace Woods, you know, I
Speaker 1: got a lot of it. Does it does Woods? But
Speaker 1: it does beg the question or Terrence Williams did not
Speaker 1: play this he was not active this week, did not
Speaker 1: practice at the end of last week, and this was
Speaker 1: not injury related. By Butler also got a grand total
Speaker 1: of no snap. No, I get it. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that the fact that that all came about at
Speaker 1: the end of last week and going into the game
Speaker 1: on Sunday, does that beg the question that maybe there's
Speaker 1: something afoot there? Maybe? Sure, it sounds good, an easy move, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's logical at that point. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: we've covered this extensively, haven't we am. I don't know logical. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's not practical either. Right now, just to cut him,
Speaker 1: let's see what happens. Remember he counts about three million
Speaker 1: right now. If you cut him, he counts five. There's
Speaker 1: no reason to do that, Capri. You do unless you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're not wrong, you're not wrong. Then make a
Speaker 1: trade for who I mean, let's we can go. We
Speaker 1: can going into what we've been talking about for the
Speaker 1: last They could you know, they could flip a seventh
Speaker 1: round pick or something like that over to uh him.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that tomorrow actually, because I do
Speaker 1: want to kind of wrap this whole safety thing up.
Speaker 1: Dave show me some numbers a day that just kind
Speaker 1: of blow your mind. But we're gonna talk about that tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Let's save the whole safety conversation. Well, all right, let's
Speaker 1: say if you want to. But I mean, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, do I have to say it because the
Speaker 1: safeties didn't look good yesterday? No, we I want to
Speaker 1: talk about our safety. That was actually gonna be the
Speaker 1: next direction I went. But I'm talking about the other stuff.
Speaker 1: You appear to have two cornerbacks who can play on
Speaker 1: the boundary and do a good job. I'm I don't
Speaker 1: know the numbers. I know Cheeto gave up some catches.
Speaker 1: I defy you to tell me what he could have
Speaker 1: done better in most of those situations. Those are all
Speaker 1: covered well Byron Jones, you know ESPN. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that they're the end all be all. I think we
Speaker 1: probably know this team much better than they do. But
Speaker 1: they gave him the most improved Player in the Year
Speaker 1: in the League award through a quarter of the season
Speaker 1: Byron Yes, So I can't argue that these two corners
Speaker 1: are playing really well. I don't know about literally anybody
Speaker 1: else in the secondary. I've long been a defender of
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath. I think it is well worth pointing out
Speaker 1: that he's dealing with about four different injuries right now,
Speaker 1: but he was still on the field. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you yesterday was not a good day. If you can
Speaker 1: get on the field, I can't completely. I mean, I
Speaker 1: get it. Everybody's fighting through injuries. I understand that, but
Speaker 1: he had I mean, he was named the starter at
Speaker 1: the start of last season, and I think that was
Speaker 1: probably his worst game in that time stretch where he
Speaker 1: was named a starter. I mean, the play on the
Speaker 1: sideline on Tait's first touchdown is on. I mean, it
Speaker 1: sounds who's the sideline? Right? It sounds stupid, like you know,
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, I could have made that play, Like, no,
Speaker 1: you couldn't. You're not in the NFL. If a lot
Speaker 1: of people probably could have made that play, Like you
Speaker 1: just have to shove him out of bounds. Not a
Speaker 1: great day. I mean, what do you want to what
Speaker 1: do you want me to say? Amber, Like, we've been
Speaker 1: talking about these safeties since March y. It looks troubling this.
Speaker 1: I always say Rod Marinelli's defenses are so good at
Speaker 1: not giving up chunk touchdowns. They don't do it very often. Well,
Speaker 1: that's three in two games. That's not good. That's a
Speaker 1: troubling trend. I really told you the safety doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter clearly, I mean not at all. So that's how
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how eighteen yard completions turn into forty
Speaker 1: five yard touchdowns straight up. Well, we'll save the conversation
Speaker 1: on what they can do to try to address that
Speaker 1: till tomorrow, because I think there's there's definitely some conversation
Speaker 1: we had there about what they could have done versus
Speaker 1: what's available to them now. But let's move on. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about de Marcus Lawrence. Yesterday he had eight tackles,
Speaker 1: He led the team in tackles at least at the
Speaker 1: initial outset, and then had three sacks. He is playing
Speaker 1: phenomenally this year again after the second year, and it's
Speaker 1: just to me, it's just amazing. Talk about DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: and what he's providing for this defensive to Well, I
Speaker 1: mean they didn't, like I said, I don't think they
Speaker 1: had a ton of pass for rush yesterday, but he did.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had an unbelievable game. I think he
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of help. I think Tyrone Crawford
Speaker 1: played well from the middle, but you know, we're not
Speaker 1: seeing really a lot out of Gregory Tacos okay, So
Speaker 1: for him to be able to kind of do it
Speaker 1: all by himself yesterday, I thought that was what was
Speaker 1: really big. I mean, he's I would throw Tyrone in
Speaker 1: there too. I just thought he played also too. He
Speaker 1: had a really good game hidden hidden stats, you know,
Speaker 1: when you played defensive tackle. I think he was disruptive,
Speaker 1: But I agree with the overall point. I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm guilty. I jumped on that Randy Gregory hype train
Speaker 1: super hard in the preseas season and I'm so surprised,
Speaker 1: Like I keep watching and it's like he completely disappeared.
Speaker 1: And before coming into the regular season, we were talking
Speaker 1: about him like, oh my god, this beast guy is
Speaker 1: just gonna come in here and kill every quarterback. Hey
Speaker 1: you no, we I mean we go, we go based
Speaker 1: on what we see against this team, like, well, he's
Speaker 1: beating Tyron Smith regularly, That's that's amazing. Well, Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: has not had the best first month of his career,
Speaker 1: so it's all stuff to keep in mind. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think Taco has been fine. Tyrone had
Speaker 1: a good game, but DeMarcus Lawrence is insane. I actually
Speaker 1: I asked Jerry Jones last night. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, are you starting to think about the fact
Speaker 1: at all that you're probably gonna have to talk about
Speaker 1: some pretty big numbers with him soon? And Jerry was like, well,
Speaker 1: his number's pretty big right now. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you're right, And in the back of my in my head,
Speaker 1: I was like, it's gonna be bigger. It's gonna be bigger.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be bigger. So it's I mean, five and
Speaker 1: a half sacks, he leads the league. He's got twenty
Speaker 1: in his last twenty games. Not to get too far
Speaker 1: into that, but the good thing about that when he
Speaker 1: says that his number is really big right now it's
Speaker 1: seventeen million, it's because that's that's important, because it's sitting
Speaker 1: there on the cap. And next year, like his cap number,
Speaker 1: it'll say they signed him to this monster. It won't
Speaker 1: be seventeen million, you know, so you have it now
Speaker 1: you're absorbing it. It'll be less than that and you'll
Speaker 1: still get a really big number. I agree, and I
Speaker 1: hope you're right. It's only week four. We'll see, but
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope they don't try to play tag
Speaker 1: with him again. No, get it, well, you saw it.
Speaker 1: You saw it happened there in with the Rams. I
Speaker 1: mean they did that how many times, like two or
Speaker 1: three years. Yeah, and that was the best defensive player
Speaker 1: in the league. That's what I'm in the league when
Speaker 1: they I mean, whether it's fair or not, whether he's
Speaker 1: as good as a player or not. When it comes
Speaker 1: time to talk contract with the Marcus Lawrence, he's looking
Speaker 1: like he's going to have the resume to ask for
Speaker 1: Leo macmoney and it's up to the Cowboys if they
Speaker 1: want to pay that. I mean, he's done everything that
Speaker 1: you've wanted a franchise player to be. I mean, like
Speaker 1: he signed it immediately. He's not playing around. He didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't know, he didn't make it make an issue
Speaker 1: out of it. He's still a leader. He doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he's just sitting on a one year deal. He doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's upset about losing. I mean, he
Speaker 1: wants to win um and I just think it's it's
Speaker 1: he's done in everything right. He's playing under he's playing well,
Speaker 1: I think that they reward him. They only only need it,
Speaker 1: but he's deserved it. Talk about leadership, just the way
Speaker 1: he kind of pulls that hole, oh yeah, defensive line
Speaker 1: together and and creates that bond, creates that that camaraderie,
Speaker 1: creates whatever it is that makes teams work. True, Like
Speaker 1: he is really you can see you can see his leadership.
Speaker 1: You really can't. Yeah, and that you're right about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, how else would we be interviewing Daniel Ross
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I mean, like, but they're they're
Speaker 1: in the group. You know, they're in the club. So
Speaker 1: like he's put him in there and he's and he
Speaker 1: made sure, hey change your number here, or do this,
Speaker 1: let's be all together. I mean, he's done it. But
Speaker 1: the best part is he's going out and getting three
Speaker 1: sacks on that there we go, and that that's the
Speaker 1: first stop. But we've seen guys that have produced and
Speaker 1: not they weren't those kind of leaders like they could
Speaker 1: produce and you could say, follow me, Marcus. I mean,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus wasn't that kind of right, was a great player,
Speaker 1: extremely great gay, He wasn't that kind of leader you right,
Speaker 1: I would even say and I don't mean this as
Speaker 1: a knock at all, but like Jason Witten and Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: they're they're tremendous leaders, they have tremendous passion, but it
Speaker 1: still feels like different, Like it's like there's a respect there,
Speaker 1: but they're kind of older and stuffy in a way. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, like DeMarcus Lawrence is one of the guys.
Speaker 1: He's he is fun, he's one of the guys. He
Speaker 1: is you know, he's a guy that Antoine Woods, who's
Speaker 1: you know, barely made the team as an undrafted guy,
Speaker 1: Like he feels just as comfortable with him as Taco,
Speaker 1: who's a first round pick. I think it's a fun,
Speaker 1: different sort of leadership to see from what we've been
Speaker 1: used to with guys like Witten. That's interesting that you
Speaker 1: say that, because do you think DeMarcus Lawrence really wants
Speaker 1: Taco to have like six or seven sacks? Eight sacks?
Speaker 1: Be really good? Yeah? I did too, I think so
Speaker 1: do you think it never wanted Gavin escobardt or Facano
Speaker 1: mean just keep going down the list. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a different dynamic, you know, obviously because you can only
Speaker 1: have one well, no, you can have more than one.
Speaker 1: Tight end on the field. But yeah, yeah, they do
Speaker 1: actually love that. Yeah, yeah, it's but those are the
Speaker 1: best kind of leaders when they put themselves within the
Speaker 1: group and not a little step above you. And DeMarcus
Speaker 1: he's amazing, pure entertainment on the field off the field,
Speaker 1: and he has a kind of energy that is absolutely contagious.
Speaker 1: There's no way that you're around him and you're not better.
Speaker 1: He's yea quote, yes, oh yeah, which the quote DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence does not care if there's a camera in his
Speaker 1: face or not. No, he doesn't. Somebody, you know, we
Speaker 1: were talking to him and somebody was like, are you
Speaker 1: keeping track? He the Lions have given up three sacks
Speaker 1: this season? He had three, so we're like, you know,
Speaker 1: are you keeping tracktoring the course of the game, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's two, that's three, And he's like, I don't pay
Speaker 1: attention to that. I know when I drag a person's
Speaker 1: in the dirt. Except he doesn't censor himself. He never does.
Speaker 1: He never does. He's been rhymes with my name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's you know, they drafted him thirty fourth overall, he's
Speaker 1: pretty much been good from the minute they got him.
Speaker 1: He got hurt as a rookie, playoff sacks as a rookie,
Speaker 1: had eight sacks when he had Greg Hardy helped him
Speaker 1: out in his second year, played through injuries. But like
Speaker 1: so he's been good this whole time. But like it's
Speaker 1: he is a revelation on what he has become. Like
Speaker 1: I I don't know that I ever expected him to
Speaker 1: be like a cornerstone type of player, but that's certainly
Speaker 1: what he is. And it's not even just the defensive line.
Speaker 1: I mean, he takes ownership with that defense. Yeah, last
Speaker 1: night in the locker room, latent vander Esch was over
Speaker 1: giving an interview. Of course, there was a bunch of media,
Speaker 1: so Tyrone Crawford's given him, giving him a lot of
Speaker 1: flak about the fact that there's a bunch of people
Speaker 1: around him. And then him comes to Marcus. He runs
Speaker 1: over there and gets behind him and he's like, way
Speaker 1: to go, young fella. You know, it's just kind of
Speaker 1: that you could tell there was a certain level of
Speaker 1: respect that Leyton had for DeMarcus when he was standing
Speaker 1: there beside him, because the question actually that he just
Speaker 1: answered was about DeMarcus and how much DeMarcus helps the
Speaker 1: rest of the defense. But there's just you. I mean,
Speaker 1: you nailed it. You can tell that the rest of
Speaker 1: that defense, how much they rest. It's not just for
Speaker 1: the cameras, because we've seen situations where it's kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's our leader, and then the cameras are off in
Speaker 1: the eyes kind of roll. Right, you've seen that before.
Speaker 1: I think it's really genuine. These guys really respect him
Speaker 1: like that, and he plays like that, and so they
Speaker 1: command He commands that respect, right. All right, So let's
Speaker 1: take our final break. Let's come back. We're gonna get
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Speaker 1: doing that anymore. That doesn't work. That's bad luck for yesterday.
Speaker 1: Superstitions aren't real. Just so y'all know. Yeah, they're real
Speaker 1: for some people. I don't like. I don't like that anyways, though,
Speaker 1: not doing that anymore, but just not for me. But
Speaker 1: for fans do it. I love them. They felt great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just do it. Go go Cowboys all the way
Speaker 1: from top to bottom. Dak Prescott's performance is not determined
Speaker 1: by what kind of underwear you're wearing or what jersey
Speaker 1: you were in the game. Yes, I am positive about that.
Speaker 1: It'll like, let your mind be free. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not so probably Okay, all right, all right, let's get
Speaker 1: back into it. We gotta talk about these five plays. Nick,
Speaker 1: that's my sheet, leave it alone. Let's talk about these
Speaker 1: five plays. Let's see if Nick can remember the five plays,
Speaker 1: you can remember the score of the Texans from two
Speaker 1: thousand and two seineteen to ten. See, one of these days,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a challenge on this show. We're going
Speaker 1: to just throw dates out at Nick, like Cowboys on
Speaker 1: this day. Make sure they're not in the last three
Speaker 1: years because I don't know. And we'll let Nick just
Speaker 1: say the score and amazed fans. It's amazing. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: all right. So five plays. These were the five plays
Speaker 1: yesterday that you should not miss because they had a
Speaker 1: bigger impact on the game than you may have fought
Speaker 1: at the time. Let's start with the first one. Lions
Speaker 1: failed to pin Cowboys deep. Nick tell us what happened. Well,
Speaker 1: it was the first drive of the game for the
Speaker 1: for the Lions. They got down inside the fifty, punted,
Speaker 1: looked like they got the ball down on the one
Speaker 1: yard line, and then I don't know exactly the player's name,
Speaker 1: but his toe was right there on the end touchback.
Speaker 1: How the significant is that cowboy was getting nine yards
Speaker 1: on the next dray And if and if they're conservative
Speaker 1: at the twenty, they're gonna be conservative at the one.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be punting out of that and instead of
Speaker 1: the Lions getting the next posession of the thirty, they
Speaker 1: probably get it in midfield. That's that's a field goal
Speaker 1: at least right there, just those inches right there, So
Speaker 1: I thought that was a big one. Yep, that's a
Speaker 1: huge room, all right. Next one dlog gets to Stafford
Speaker 1: before half. They're driving right before halftime, and they you know,
Speaker 1: they weren't like the forty five yard line. They got
Speaker 1: a minute thirteen to go and a nine yard sack
Speaker 1: there just changed the whole, you know, outlook for what
Speaker 1: the Lions were trying to do. They had an easy
Speaker 1: chance to go down and get a field goal and
Speaker 1: they needed fifteen twenty more yards. By doing that, now
Speaker 1: you wonder did the Cowboys want to be aggressive to
Speaker 1: get the ball back? It just kind of set them
Speaker 1: on their heels a little bit. I thought that was
Speaker 1: they needed a defensive stop big time there. That's one
Speaker 1: of the interesting things here too, is DeMarcus Lawrence. It's
Speaker 1: not just sacks, it's sacks in moments and games kindly
Speaker 1: need them Like that was always one of the big
Speaker 1: Knox people would have for DeMarcus. He get these sacks
Speaker 1: and it was like, was it really changed the game?
Speaker 1: Were you really? Were you getting sacks when you needed them?
Speaker 1: M I kind of disagreed a little bit at the
Speaker 1: time because I thought there were some games where he
Speaker 1: made some of those. But I think DeMarcus Lawrence, you
Speaker 1: see that quite a bit. When you need a sack,
Speaker 1: need a plus a guy that goes and get you
Speaker 1: one deftly. Let's talk about Dak finds Beasley near the
Speaker 1: end zone, you know, third and ten on the twelve
Speaker 1: yard line, and he's got some pressure and he's side
Speaker 1: arms to Beasley, and Beasley did a nice job too
Speaker 1: of stretching it out everything. He's got to get nine
Speaker 1: yards and get close to that. They don't kick, they
Speaker 1: kick a field goal there. For sure. It's I think
Speaker 1: it's twenty to seventeen. I believe it's the school. No, no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's actually thirteen to ten at that point, and
Speaker 1: they're definitely gonna kick a field goal to make it
Speaker 1: sixteen to ten if they don't get that. But fourth
Speaker 1: and one on the two different different possession for sure,
Speaker 1: Jarwin's fumble recovery actually should have been on there too,
Speaker 1: because that was a huge fumble recovery because yes, you
Speaker 1: don't get the touchdown, but if the Lions would have
Speaker 1: got it at the touchback, so that was actually a
Speaker 1: big player there, huge all right, and Lions penalty leads
Speaker 1: to field goal. It was right, it was twenty to
Speaker 1: seventeen Cowboys. It was that drive that everyone you know
Speaker 1: hates when they got down on the goal line. But
Speaker 1: third and seven. I think, like at the forty five,
Speaker 1: I've throwed a gallop incomplete, the Lions lined off, lined
Speaker 1: up offside, Eli Harold. Now it's third and two. What
Speaker 1: are you gonna do with it? Zeke? First down, they drive.
Speaker 1: Of course they don't get the touchdown, but they still
Speaker 1: get a field goal and take some time off the clock.
Speaker 1: It would have been a different game because then if
Speaker 1: you don't get that field goal, I mean you're down
Speaker 1: by four if the Lion score. So that one was big,
Speaker 1: and then the fifth one was we already talked about.
Speaker 1: It was just don't forget how important it was for
Speaker 1: Dak to pick up that fumble, roll out there and
Speaker 1: may keep it at third and three. I said this yesterday,
Speaker 1: but it really. I mean, football is so amazing because
Speaker 1: I mean, spend eight months talking about it and then
Speaker 1: it boils down to like sixty five snaps on a Sunday.
Speaker 1: And if deshan Hand comes up from that play a
Speaker 1: little bit differently and sees the ball, or if it
Speaker 1: just bounces differently hitting the ground, it not I mean
Speaker 1: not only anything. Game's over. Cowboys are one in three.
Speaker 1: We're talking about how they ignored Ezekiel Elliott on the
Speaker 1: four yard line against the worst run defense in the league,
Speaker 1: which is still stupid. By the way, that's because they
Speaker 1: won through Rico and through it to Rico against I'm
Speaker 1: not against either. I'm against it in the sense that
Speaker 1: if the guy can only come into the game in
Speaker 1: one scenario and the defense knows what's coming, is it
Speaker 1: really that useful. He played, Yeah, he played more no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about specifically when you throw the fade
Speaker 1: to him, like I just see you're telegraphing it. That
Speaker 1: had some great throws. That one was not. That one
Speaker 1: was fastball that I mean, you're not going to hit
Speaker 1: the scoreboards it up there, And honestly, they got what
Speaker 1: they wanted. They got him isolated on a smaller player.
Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to do on that play. So
Speaker 1: the fact is the play call was the right play call.
Speaker 1: The problem was they didn't connect on it. And that
Speaker 1: to me, when you don't connect on that kind of play,
Speaker 1: to me, that's about the fact that you obviously haven't
Speaker 1: done that enough. That should be muscle memory. That kind
Speaker 1: of play needs to be muscle memory to where I
Speaker 1: know when I throw it to the end zone, to
Speaker 1: this guy, because he's bigger than the other guy. I
Speaker 1: know exactly where to place it. He knows exactly where
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. He can go up, he can secure
Speaker 1: the ball touchdown. Like to me, that's just about practicing
Speaker 1: that more because they got what they wanted out of
Speaker 1: the play. I can't go there with you, which you know,
Speaker 1: I even what I've heard people talk about it, like
Speaker 1: the end of Super Bowl forty nine. You know, the
Speaker 1: Mike the Malcolm Butler pick. The Seahawks should have run clearly,
Speaker 1: But you can even convince me like an NFL defense
Speaker 1: that's geared up for that call is going to stop
Speaker 1: it every time. I understand it's hard, but four yard line,
Speaker 1: worst run defense in the league. Second down, second down,
Speaker 1: second Yeah, let's exactly. I refuse to believe it's not
Speaker 1: as easy as just running it three times. You will score.
Speaker 1: Even if it takes till fourth down, you will score.
Speaker 1: I'm not at all saying that I prefer to throw
Speaker 1: it to Rico over running the ball. What I'm saying, though,
Speaker 1: is I don't think and this could have come in
Speaker 1: another point in the game. My point is that when
Speaker 1: you get in that situation, if you've get that. If
Speaker 1: you get that matchup where you can isolate Rico with
Speaker 1: a smaller guy, that's still a good play call. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. If you're lined up there at the four
Speaker 1: the way that game was going against this rush defense,
Speaker 1: run the ball all day. I get second, run the
Speaker 1: ball all day. But they're gonna be teams that are
Speaker 1: better running defenses where I think that played a Rico
Speaker 1: becomes a viable option if they can get to the
Speaker 1: point where it is a run in practice, not nutcutting time.
Speaker 1: To mean that second and four, that when he rolled
Speaker 1: out and threw as I called it, a mini hall Mary,
Speaker 1: I mean to swam any hill Mary gallop. They're all in.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what why that play? That's the one
Speaker 1: I don't like. Third and four your higher percentage. I mean,
Speaker 1: letting the guy go up there and get a rebound.
Speaker 1: That's what we should have done, Like get up there
Speaker 1: so we can get a rebound. But second and four,
Speaker 1: that one, that play was bad, And you're right, if
Speaker 1: they don't win that game, that's exactly what that's what
Speaker 1: we're reading. That's what we would have talked about for
Speaker 1: the first half hour instead of waiting until there's ten
Speaker 1: minutes left in the show, which but again, that's it's
Speaker 1: so I mean, it's it's agonizing, but it's so much
Speaker 1: fun because literally, if Dak doesn't feel that ball the
Speaker 1: way he's supposed to, we're talking hot seat, we're talking
Speaker 1: play calling, we're talking like, oh, Dak was better, but
Speaker 1: it still wasn't good enough. You know, the sky would
Speaker 1: hundred percent be falling on the third d or no,
Speaker 1: after the fumble recovery by Jarwin, now it's first and
Speaker 1: goal on the one yard line, two yard line. You
Speaker 1: know they actually went they took Rico out of the game,
Speaker 1: put in Cameron Fleming as a backup tackle to be,
Speaker 1: you know, your third tight end, and then they throw
Speaker 1: it to Swim for the touchdown. So you know that
Speaker 1: it's not always Rico down. There is the third tight
Speaker 1: end that Cameron Fleming was the third tight end. Funny
Speaker 1: this is I feel like this is something you would say,
Speaker 1: but I just think it's funny, Like Jeff Swaims scored
Speaker 1: his first career touchdown, but all three of the tight
Speaker 1: ends had a shot at their first career touchdown because
Speaker 1: I thought Jarwin scored on the fumble and then obviously
Speaker 1: Rico had a chance at that fade. So just you
Speaker 1: did not like that rule. You're like, that's a dumb rule.
Speaker 1: It is a dumb it's a stupid run and get it.
Speaker 1: I understand, like, you know, you know, I think about
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Graham play that what was that like twenty ten,
Speaker 1: yeah or twenty eleven. Yeah. I can understand the point,
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, it's just it seems arbitry,
Speaker 1: like if it's fumbled backward then it's legal, but if
Speaker 1: it's fumbled forward then it's dead and blah blah, like
Speaker 1: that's stupid. I can just see like for instance, the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I don't even know if that was fourth down,
Speaker 1: probably wasn't. I'm talking about the Rams and Titans where
Speaker 1: that guy catches a slant and he's going for the
Speaker 1: end zone and he's tackled and it's like, fumble it
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Then it's like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, why why can't you just do
Speaker 1: that on third down? Well? Because but the thing about
Speaker 1: is if it's a if it's a Ford fumble, then
Speaker 1: that's if he's passed a line of scrimmage, that's equivalent
Speaker 1: to an illegal pass, right, Well, yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: my point, Like, that's that's probably why the rule is
Speaker 1: But that's what I I say, that's probably why the rule
Speaker 1: is in place, probably and yeah, because I mean it
Speaker 1: can swing it like that Saints Cowboys game is crazy.
Speaker 1: The Saints gained like forty yards on a fumble. But
Speaker 1: but if that's third down, it's a touchdown by Jarwin. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But it's just it's weird that, you know, like you
Speaker 1: should be able to go back and review like, Okay,
Speaker 1: did he do it on purpose? No? All right? I
Speaker 1: mean if you can review a football move, why can't
Speaker 1: you review that like it's popped up in the I
Speaker 1: mean talk about how bad you know, we're talking about
Speaker 1: how Zeke last week had a really good performance, but
Speaker 1: he had the miscuse. Yeah, you know that could have
Speaker 1: been that could have been disastrous. It could have been disastrous.
Speaker 1: One other thing I did want to hit on. We
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about Sean Lee. The linebackers though
Speaker 1: yesterday I thought played really well between Jalen Smith and
Speaker 1: Layton vander Esh. I think Jalen had seven seven tackles,
Speaker 1: Layton had six. They seem to be moving around the
Speaker 1: field really well. It didn't seem like there were a
Speaker 1: lot of ill effects from not having Sean Lee there.
Speaker 1: But when you think about the grant the overall perspective,
Speaker 1: we don't think the defense played as well yesterday as
Speaker 1: they half Pitt played before. Do you think that maybe
Speaker 1: there is a part of that is because they didn't
Speaker 1: have Shaun Lee on the field. Yeah, absolutely, you don't
Speaker 1: have an All Pro player. I mean there's only two
Speaker 1: All pros on this defense, and Shaun Lee is one
Speaker 1: of them. So yeah, it's not good. And you know,
Speaker 1: they went away from the run, as Nick pointed out,
Speaker 1: but they were I mean they averaged five yards per carry,
Speaker 1: so it certainly it was not an amazing effort. I Oh,
Speaker 1: like I judge linebackers just in the flow of the
Speaker 1: game by like are you active, are you near the ball?
Speaker 1: Do you look like you're flowing to it and you're
Speaker 1: not lost? And that's Jalen and Layton both looked good
Speaker 1: from that standpoint. I'm positive there were some mistackles and
Speaker 1: some plays they'll want back, but at least not does
Speaker 1: sink like not the disaster we've seen in the past.
Speaker 1: When wasn't it It was an encouraging sign. It wasn't
Speaker 1: perfect by any stretch of the imagination. There was a
Speaker 1: point in the game, I think it was right before halftime,
Speaker 1: a little short pass the theoretic riddick in the left flat,
Speaker 1: and he had some blockers and vander esh did a
Speaker 1: nice job of getting he kind of knife through all
Speaker 1: of them and just made the tackle for two yards.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was one that looked like he's gonna
Speaker 1: get blocked and then it's gonna be twenty thirty yards.
Speaker 1: That was a really big tackle in the game. And
Speaker 1: that showed those instincts of Sean leelike to be able
Speaker 1: to kind of slither here and bend here and get here,
Speaker 1: and it was a very Shan Lee esque play. Well,
Speaker 1: that was a that was a big way that That's
Speaker 1: one that's like and I think I even tweeted this
Speaker 1: like if this is the you know, this is the
Speaker 1: floor and he's gonna get better, Like this is pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you combine that with Jalen and how he's playing,
Speaker 1: you might have yourself something that you're working with here
Speaker 1: at linebacker, which which which is I think important? Like
Speaker 1: when you start thinking about the future of this defense,
Speaker 1: if you can get those corners to continue to develop,
Speaker 1: and those two linebackers continue to develop, and by some
Speaker 1: chance you happen to go out and get a safety.
Speaker 1: You might actually be working with something here. Derwin Derwin James.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good defense. That's a pretty good Derwin
Speaker 1: James is lighting it up, he is. But I can't
Speaker 1: hate on the pick. Layton looks pretty damn good all
Speaker 1: things considered. Ye and you and honest, honestly, if you
Speaker 1: didn't make that pick, you might be sitting here today
Speaker 1: saying Cowboys need a linebacker bad because it may have
Speaker 1: been one of those situations where you don't have which
Speaker 1: we knew, Yeah, we knew. At some point there's probably
Speaker 1: a good chance that Sean was going to miss a
Speaker 1: game or two or whatever. And at that point, if
Speaker 1: that would have happened, then they may not have had
Speaker 1: the results where the linebackers played really well. The linebackers
Speaker 1: could have been the problem yesterday. You also whatever day,
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have Michael Gallup, which he's not lighting the
Speaker 1: world on fire. But the arrow, is there any third
Speaker 1: round guard that's doing well starting as a rookie, because
Speaker 1: that's where it comes down, is like, well, because the
Speaker 1: right You're right, Gallup's not really making a big difference
Speaker 1: at receiver. I don't really know. I don't know how
Speaker 1: will Hernandez is doing for the Giants. I mean they're
Speaker 1: one in three round, right, yeah, well that's what Connor
Speaker 1: Williams is, right. But I'm trying to oh third, third
Speaker 1: round because because I know what I wanted to do
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fifty I got you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the other thing, too, is when you think about Gallop, like,
Speaker 1: to me, that pick is not a pick for this year.
Speaker 1: When you take a wide receiver in the third round,
Speaker 1: your expectation is not that he's going to come in
Speaker 1: and immediately light it for you. He's taking a couple.
Speaker 1: I don't think so for me. I think wide receivers
Speaker 1: one of the hardest positions to adapt to in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I expect to see him contributing a lot more next year,
Speaker 1: and buy a third year, that's when I expect to
Speaker 1: see him be a guy win. With the Bronco game
Speaker 1: the fifty one forty eight October twenty thirteen, about a fifth,
Speaker 1: fifth game, fifth game or six if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams kind of had a slower start. He was
Speaker 1: the third round receiver, didn't do a lot. Actually, it's
Speaker 1: funny to think about that. He I don't know if
Speaker 1: blew up is the right word, but he had a
Speaker 1: pretty nice day in San Diego that year, which was
Speaker 1: the fourth game, but he fumbled trying to turn a
Speaker 1: first down into a touchdown and it didn't like sink
Speaker 1: the game because they were already down by two possessions.
Speaker 1: But it was just a bone headed But it came
Speaker 1: back against Denver, and yeah, and that's kind of led
Speaker 1: to a decent rookie year for him. So yeah, Gallup
Speaker 1: might be I'm not And I think when receivers typically
Speaker 1: have a pretty good rookie year or a good year
Speaker 1: rookie year, typically they got a great goal on the
Speaker 1: opposite side of them. He doesn't really have that here. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not what he's been brought in with.
Speaker 1: I'm not down on Michael Gallup at all, but I
Speaker 1: am a little um I don't even want to say disappointed.
Speaker 1: But I thought he'd be better. I thought he'd be
Speaker 1: better quicker, but by no means closing them still, Babe,
Speaker 1: he still needs too mature. Yesterday in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I saw, yeah it look just look at his little face.
Speaker 1: It's like it was so cute and so such like
Speaker 1: a kid. And yesterday in the locker room, I was
Speaker 1: watching that. We're in a corner him and Tabon Austin.
Speaker 1: Tabon was was helping him put on a bow tie,
Speaker 1: and it was the cutest thing ever, like just on
Speaker 1: their own. And I'm like, oh my god, look at this.
Speaker 1: Look at it. So clearly there's some some growth there
Speaker 1: that needs to be happening on and off the field,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be there. These guys. I wish you
Speaker 1: guys are watching right there, see Nick nothing a job.
Speaker 1: These guys are. I mean, there's some of the best
Speaker 1: athletes in the world. They can do things without thinking
Speaker 1: about it that I could never do. But like every
Speaker 1: now and then you'll see something funny like that where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you don't know how to tie a tie? No,
Speaker 1: you give most of them a time. Have you ever
Speaker 1: noticed go in the locker room everybody and having free tide,
Speaker 1: just like they are not taking a loose and they
Speaker 1: take it off like they're keeping it tied so they
Speaker 1: can easily put it back. And I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: Maybe my life's not just the complete disaster I think
Speaker 1: it was. You know, I'm like I'm doing okay, right,
Speaker 1: all right, guys, appreciate you joining us. We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We'll get into some big picture talk. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we're definitely talking safety tomorrow. Not just safety on this team,
Speaker 1: but safety around the league and what the Cowboys maybe
Speaker 1: should have done in the off season, looking at some
Speaker 1: of the guys around the league and how they're performing.
Speaker 1: Interesting conversation with that when we come come back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Till then for Nick even Dave Hellma Ambergarcia on Derek
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