WEBVTT -  Zelenskiy Talks US Support for Ukraine, Frozen Russian Assets

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<v Speaker 1>President Zelenski, thank you so much for taking the time

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<v Speaker 1>for speaking with Bloomberg. Yet again, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to begin by taking a step back. We've

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<v Speaker 1>now been at war for three years and nine months almost.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a lot of concern. Each of those days

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<v Speaker 1>is measured in lives and resources. There's concerns that it's

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<v Speaker 1>now a stalemate, a forever war. Now today on day

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand, three hundred and fifty seven, from the United

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<v Speaker 1>States and from Europe, what do you need to meaningfully

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<v Speaker 1>change the course of the war.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Not to lose your support, not

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<v Speaker 2>to lose unity between the United States and Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>Around Ukrainian question.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, what we need we need between us, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>longer artillery we really need. There's a big deficit on

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<v Speaker 2>the front line. I mean this during this war.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the question of this day. It's a question

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<v Speaker 3>for this war. And of course we need air defense.

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<v Speaker 2>We're thankful for program Poor. We are thankful to President Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is very important. He opened this corridor that

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<v Speaker 2>we can buy by we can buy air defense. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean missiles Pack three first of all, PUCK three and

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<v Speaker 2>of course systems with system is difficult because it's always

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<v Speaker 2>the question of time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but we can't wait because they attack us each day.

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<v Speaker 2>And we began to work on intercept Us droned intercept Us.

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<v Speaker 2>We have our production and by the way, good production,

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<v Speaker 2>American Ukraine production, co production. I'm happy that we have

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<v Speaker 2>co productions already we started.

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<v Speaker 3>This, but I hope that in future we will have more.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think here defense number one longer ertilly, as

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<v Speaker 2>I said, and of course if you will ask me,

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<v Speaker 2>what can change, Yes, we need long range, Yes, we

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<v Speaker 2>need long range.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody. By the way, I had conversations with centers as.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned at the very beginning, and bipartisan support.

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<v Speaker 3>We are thankful.

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<v Speaker 2>But we spoke about tomahawks for for example, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not only about the mahawks. There are some similar

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<v Speaker 2>long range things and important were important things. Look, there

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<v Speaker 2>are military targets on the territory of Russia which have

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<v Speaker 2>a huge air defense around because they need to save.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why it's not enough to have drawns. We need,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, some come out of the package.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we want to answer, because they attack us

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to answer, that's why we raised this

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<v Speaker 2>topic with American side.

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<v Speaker 1>Another topic at the battle lines right now. The battle

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<v Speaker 1>for Pokorovsk is currently being waged. There have been some

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<v Speaker 1>suggestions from allies saying that it might make sense to

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<v Speaker 1>have a tactical retreat to conserve military, conserve resources, conserve

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<v Speaker 1>lives in order to regroup. Is that something that you're

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<v Speaker 1>actively considering. Has the time the time come to take

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<v Speaker 1>a retreat.

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<v Speaker 3>In any way?

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<v Speaker 2>This is really this is a decision of generals, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course I will support our soldiers, especially commanders who

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<v Speaker 2>are there, which how they can control the situation or

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<v Speaker 2>it's too expensive for us, We can't lose the most

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<v Speaker 2>important for us, this is our soldiers, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>they have to they need to decide on the battlefield,

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<v Speaker 2>decide the place. But you have to know the most

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<v Speaker 2>expensive months during these three years and.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine months, the months for Rusians because of crops.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost in October more than twenty five thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only I mean, this is twenty five thousand what

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<v Speaker 2>we control from drums. So there are video effects of this,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know the total number of their losses

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<v Speaker 2>during October, but only only fixed by video. Twenty five thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>And something something you do control and there will be

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<v Speaker 1>renewed discussions about this around manpower, whether or not you

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<v Speaker 1>need to expand the conscription. Is that something you were

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<v Speaker 1>looking at. This is something that you may hear more

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<v Speaker 1>from allies, given the retreat you've had to make in

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<v Speaker 1>Zaporisia for example.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, the question of people, of course, is the most

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<v Speaker 2>sensitive and the most difficult and difficult for me, for soldiers.

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<v Speaker 3>For people, for society and for partners.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and of course we don't have a really comparable

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<v Speaker 2>number of people because you know that the size of Russia, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know the size of your grain.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. But this is the balance. You can't even.

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<v Speaker 2>If soldiers ask to mobilize more people.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to balance. It's a very difficult question.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to balance because there is a society people

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<v Speaker 2>they have to work, and they have they need, They

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<v Speaker 2>have to work and pay taxes, and then this money

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<v Speaker 2>goes to army. So you have to find the balance.

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<v Speaker 2>So I react during military.

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<v Speaker 3>Cabinets, and of course soldiers.

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<v Speaker 2>Raised this topic and partners, yes, but partners are not

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<v Speaker 2>at the battlefield. And that's why, with all respect, with

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<v Speaker 2>all respect, I said, the decision of our army awards

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<v Speaker 2>to mobilize thought about thirty thousand per months.

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<v Speaker 3>And the system now is.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing this, and one of those partners is President Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>He seemed very committed to the idea of a ceasefire.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it seems that the diplomatic line for now is closed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, President Trump and you understand one another much

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<v Speaker 1>better than you did back in February. With that understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you bring him back to the table and

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<v Speaker 1>on your side.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the table, how to bring bad Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, committing to the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I think this is important for me if

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<v Speaker 2>and for our people. And this is a big you're

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<v Speaker 2>much more bigger than than in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>We paid the most you know, high price because it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Only Ukrainian losses here, but human losses of course, first

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<v Speaker 2>of all.

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<v Speaker 3>But we have to understand that also.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this, this is important for America, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is very important not to give possibility Russia

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<v Speaker 2>just to I mean that Russia began this aggression.

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<v Speaker 3>Russia began this war.

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<v Speaker 2>If the war against us, they have they stolen you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of Ukrainian children. We can't I mean, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>respect they don't respect the law, but they really respect

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<v Speaker 2>the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>They respect President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I really think that President Trump can push put into

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<v Speaker 2>negotiations and that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>This is very important. And I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said to centers, were very thankful to first lady.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm very thankful, like the President of Ukraine that

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<v Speaker 2>our first ladies Lena and Millennia, that they spoke, they

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<v Speaker 2>began to work on children question, how to bring kids back.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very important and I'm thankful to her and

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<v Speaker 2>to other leaders who also helped us for this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>We brought one thousand and six hundred children.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned the Pearl Defense program that was rolled

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<v Speaker 1>out earlier this year. Is that bringing you what you

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<v Speaker 1>need at this stage?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm thankful to President that we can get what

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<v Speaker 2>we need. Not enough, but it depends on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>different things, but not enough, but not enough air defense,

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<v Speaker 2>not enough missiles. I work on it personally. I work

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<v Speaker 2>on it personally each day here in Ukraine and abroad.

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<v Speaker 3>We have different systems.

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<v Speaker 2>We have nasoms, Irish t hawks, Patriot systems, different systems

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<v Speaker 2>and for these systems we need or it's about missiles

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<v Speaker 2>or the questions of money, and I need to get

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<v Speaker 2>these fonds and to push these money for air defense

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<v Speaker 2>for PRO. Now we have this ploral that's why this

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<v Speaker 2>is very important.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the US shutdown. There have been reports that

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<v Speaker 1>the US shutdown has been affecting the PRO program, that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's been creating difficulties for allies to purchase through

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<v Speaker 1>the program, it has had delays to deliveries. Has the

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<v Speaker 1>US shutdown had an impact on the battlefield for you?

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<v Speaker 2>All such things in the United States, of course have influence.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to understand that you are bleaders and we

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<v Speaker 2>count on your support. And of course any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>such challenges in your country have influence. Of course, because

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<v Speaker 2>there is nothing it's not about the will of one

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<v Speaker 2>or not it I mean this people or institutions. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it goes like because of logistics, you know, some slow steps,

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<v Speaker 2>we need it and it comes later or or doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean that's why such things, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Have So it's feed on the battle of the US shutdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course we have influence on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but important that not of the will of some

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<v Speaker 2>people they I mean in the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is your in tonal questions. But but you

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<v Speaker 3>don't understand how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and all the other partners that you have obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the European partners. We're sensing the Russian assets is of

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<v Speaker 1>course the main debate that is happening in Europe right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a pattern with European leaders where at first they

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<v Speaker 1>say no to something, whether it's tanks or some other things,

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<v Speaker 1>then they go to maybe, then they get to yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now they're on maybe for the Russian assets. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they're going to get to yes? And do

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<v Speaker 1>you have assurances from European leaders that they will deliver

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<v Speaker 1>loans on the Russian assets.

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<v Speaker 3>We need it very much.

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<v Speaker 2>This is real one of the the types of real sanctions.

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<v Speaker 2>Russia has to pay for this war. They began this

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<v Speaker 2>war and they have to pay. This is a real fact.

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<v Speaker 2>How they can pay. And we need this money. We

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<v Speaker 2>will spend this money on renovation. And of course we

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<v Speaker 2>need really we need air defense, and you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>need air defense from.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States and we have European systems.

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<v Speaker 2>We need this air defense from the Europe from European leaders.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all very important.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course we need finance our drone production, which

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<v Speaker 2>is huge.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to finance it, and we don't have additional money.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the way and this is fair. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they began this war and they want to continue.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they have to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the most significant thing European leaders can do

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<v Speaker 1>right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we can get more than one hundred forty

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<v Speaker 2>villains for today. We can get it, by the way

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<v Speaker 2>from the United States. It will be also good saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like with energy, like sanctions of the White

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<v Speaker 2>House of President. Yes, it's about Louk Oil and Ross

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<v Speaker 2>Ross and local important step and it brought some other

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<v Speaker 2>our partners, European planners also to some strong decisions, and

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<v Speaker 2>we've been happy that they have been nineteen spackage.

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<v Speaker 3>We're thankful to Europeans for this.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why if President Trump, for example, will decide

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<v Speaker 2>that he has some five I think more than five

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<v Speaker 2>billion he has of answers, maybe he will decide to

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<v Speaker 2>spend this money.

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<v Speaker 3>It will help.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you discussed alternatives with allies about Russian assets? If

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<v Speaker 1>that does not come through, is there an alternative plan?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there plan B?

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<v Speaker 2>No, they understand that we need their support and if

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<v Speaker 2>I hope God blessed, we will get this decision.

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<v Speaker 3>But they will not have this decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we together will find out we have to

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<v Speaker 2>find althornamty is the question of our surviving. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>we need it very much. And I count on partners.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the question of you brought down Trump in

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<v Speaker 1>connection to the Europeans, why did it take Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to get the Europeans to ban Russian energy?

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<v Speaker 2>He always said that he wants Europe to put sanctions

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<v Speaker 2>on Russian energy. He always said that that was during

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<v Speaker 2>our meeting and then etc.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that some countries in Europe they really

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<v Speaker 3>used it. Yes, it was not the case of one year.

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<v Speaker 2>In the case of I think about thirty years, they

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<v Speaker 2>had relations and a lot of different factory they.

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<v Speaker 3>Have common businesses. It's understandable.

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<v Speaker 2>And then President of the United States that he that okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready and if Europe will be ready. And of

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<v Speaker 2>course this decision, this way of sanctions was good. As

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<v Speaker 2>I said to you that it was American sanctions and

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<v Speaker 2>European sanctions. It like split and they came together, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>This is good way. It was good way.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the same about as That's why I raised

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<v Speaker 2>it about asset, that there are some assets in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States.

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<v Speaker 3>If the United States can.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it, it will be helpful for European decisions also and.

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<v Speaker 1>On the assets, is there an alternative plan? So potentially,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say the EU can't agree on twenty seven, let's

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<v Speaker 1>say it's twenty five, and then maybe there's a partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with Canada or other nations that did you see that

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<v Speaker 1>as an alternative path for the Russian assets To back that, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have bilateral security documents between US and twenty eight maybe

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine for today partners. We have bilateral documents, security

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<v Speaker 2>document which gives us possibility to count on each year

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<v Speaker 2>financial support. For example, we have good document with Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>You said about Canada. We have good document with Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>We have good document with the United States. We have

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<v Speaker 2>very good documents with other for example North European parts

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<v Speaker 2>and Germany, and really we can count on their money.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, you know that Germany is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest that is in the world and the biggest in Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course we count on this document.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not alternative, but this, I mean, this is good

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<v Speaker 2>how to say pill, This is a good pill.

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<v Speaker 1>And in terms of energy, the Russians have been targeting

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<v Speaker 1>more and more your energy infrastructure, your gas infrastructure as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You're heading into the winter, get another winter of the war.

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<v Speaker 1>Very difficult situation. Can you tell us what the situation

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be for energy in the coming months for.

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine two, we have really a difficult situation and we

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<v Speaker 2>have to go through this winter.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the first winter, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But they, of course they increase the number of attacks

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<v Speaker 2>by drawnes. Can you imagine they use Iranian drones. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine how many druns they use. They use, five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred they use they can use six hundred, seven hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>they used ones already of eight hundred drowns for per

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<v Speaker 2>d plus ballistic and cruise missiles. And it's such combination,

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<v Speaker 2>of course. Yes, but we we have what we have.

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<v Speaker 2>We have air defense, we have our production of drawns,

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<v Speaker 2>we have drawns interceptors, we have our systems of electronic

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<v Speaker 2>or fear a lot. I mean it's about hundreds for today,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's our production. So we of course and our.

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<v Speaker 3>People and our people from energy and they

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<v Speaker 2>Which work on the fields, and that's why this is

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<v Speaker 2>very important.