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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: Buck out with his lovely wife Carrie on vacation. He

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Speaker 1: will be back on Monday with me. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: we got three hours of fun rolling your way to

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Speaker 1: take you into the weekend. A lot to discuss. Let

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Speaker 1: me give you a little bit of a rundown of

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Speaker 1: where we're headed. Betsy de Vos is going to join

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Speaker 1: us at one thirty to talk these ridiculous and absurd

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Speaker 1: new Title nine regulations that have been propounded by the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration that would effectively endorse the idea that what

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Speaker 1: matters is not your actual gender, but your gender identity.

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Speaker 1: It's a direct attack on women's sports. We've been expecting

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Speaker 1: it for a while. We will talk about that with

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Speaker 1: her at two point thirty. From the Daily Wire, Matt Walsh.

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Speaker 1: Many of you know him from the great movie that

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Speaker 1: he made, What Is a Woman? He also does good

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Speaker 1: rourk at the Daily Wire, variety of different aspects there.

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Speaker 1: He will join us at two thirty to roll into

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Speaker 1: the weekend. All of that a lot of fun. We've

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Speaker 1: got several different stories that we will be covering. The

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Speaker 1: NPR head this new crazy woman previously rigged Wikipedia. I

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that you guys hear the audio

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Speaker 1: so you know the impact that she's going to.

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Speaker 2: Have in her new job.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe this is real, but it's a perfect

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Speaker 1: Friday story. Joe Biden claimed that his uncle was eaten

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Speaker 1: by cannibals. I've been not making this up. This really happened.

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Speaker 1: The White House now says he died in a plane crash. Instead,

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Speaker 1: we will discuss that Biden tried to go to a

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Speaker 1: gas station in Pennsylvania, and now they are running ads

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Speaker 1: to let you know that Joe Biden, he's not a

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Speaker 1: dementia riddled an aduled imbecile. He's actually very very sharp.

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Speaker 1: We will play that for you. Plus my buddy Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith continues to tee off on Joe Biden and make

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Speaker 1: the case for why Donald Trump is continuing to grow

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Speaker 1: his support, particularly among minority voters. We will discuss all

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Speaker 1: that and more, but I wanted to start with all

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Speaker 1: of you. This caught me by surprise yesterday when we

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Speaker 1: finished the show, there have been two jurors removed from

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Speaker 1: the Trump jury, and I said that it felt like

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Speaker 1: things were spiraling out of control there. Then after we

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Speaker 1: got off the air, they had a rapid level of

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Speaker 1: success and they managed to seat all of the.

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Speaker 2: New jur jury here.

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Speaker 1: So we now have I believe the number is twelve

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Speaker 1: jurors seated one alternate in the Trump criminal trial. They

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Speaker 1: are on track, they say, to start this trial on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Court is taking place today. They are trying to get

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Speaker 1: more alternate seated, up to six total alternates. But those

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Speaker 1: alternate jurors would be in the courtroom and they would

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Speaker 1: be watching, but they would only have a say in

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Speaker 1: the outcome of the case if other jurors, that is,

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Speaker 1: the twelve initially seated jurors.

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Speaker 2: Were forced out.

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Speaker 1: And we now have pretty good biographical descriptions of all

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Speaker 1: of the jurors in this case, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: walk through them with you, as Buck and I did

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Speaker 1: when there were seven seeded. A big part of how

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Speaker 1: a case is going to go, particularly one like this

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Speaker 1: where we know there is a rigged jury that is

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Speaker 1: likely to be very much in favor of Alvin Bragg.

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Speaker 1: The state of New York and opposed to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I want to run through what we know about the

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Speaker 1: twelve jurors that have been seated at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm reading from the New York Times. Jur Number

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Speaker 1: one works in sales, lives in West Harlem.

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Speaker 2: This is our Irish buddy.

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Speaker 1: Uh. He said he enjoys outdoor activities, gets his news

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Speaker 1: from the New York Times, watches Fox News and MSNBC,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sorry, sounds like you're lying to me if

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Speaker 1: you say you watch Fox News and MSNBC. Unless you're

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Speaker 1: me or Buck and your job is to analyze the media.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there are actually very many people who

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Speaker 1: watch both of those. He said He's heard about some

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Speaker 1: of former President Donald Trump's other criminal cases, but didn't

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Speaker 1: have an opinion about him. Juror one's going to vote

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Speaker 1: to convict. Okay, just based on this biographical sketch, Irish

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Speaker 1: guy who lives in Harlem claims that he gets his

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Speaker 1: news from Fox News and MSNBC. I'm sorry, this guy

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Speaker 1: hates Trump. He's going to vote to convict. This is

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Speaker 1: my analysis. By the way, people out there goes, say,

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Speaker 1: Blake Travis told you exactly what all the juries are

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Speaker 1: gonna gurm members are gonna do he's jury tampering again.

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Speaker 1: Put him in handcuffs, put him in prison. So far,

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Speaker 1: I've not been arrested. Trust me, you'll know if I

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Speaker 1: am arrested. This is my opinion analyzing based on the

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Speaker 1: where I'm reading this from. Jur two works in finance,

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Speaker 1: lives in Hell's kitchen. He said he likes hiking, music

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Speaker 1: mister Trump's former fixer Michael Cohen on social media, but

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Speaker 1: he also said he follows figures like Kelly Ann Conway.

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Speaker 1: He said he believed mister Trump had done some good

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Speaker 1: for the country, adding it goes both ways. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: if you follow Michael Cohen on Twitter you hate Trump.

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Speaker 1: This guy is not voting that Trump is not guilty.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you follow Michael Cohen. That should be a

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Speaker 1: Jur three, works in the legal field, lives in Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: Said he doesn't follow the news, but when he does,

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Speaker 1: he reads The New York Times, the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: and finds articles using Google. He said he was not

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Speaker 1: very familiar with mister Trump's other criminal cases. Again, this

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Speaker 1: is a guilty verdict. I think we got three bad

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Speaker 1: jurors for Trump so far. Jur four engineer from the

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Speaker 1: Upper West Side, asked how he was during jury selection.

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Speaker 1: He responded, I'm freezing. When a warrior asked if he

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Speaker 1: had strong feelings about mister Trump, he responded, no, not really.

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Speaker 1: Now evidently the courtroom has really been cold. So that's

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Speaker 1: strong feelings about Trump. When you say no, not really,

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Speaker 1: five works in education and is from Harlem. She said

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Speaker 1: She said she appreciates mister Trump's candor. President Trump speaks

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Speaker 1: his mind. I would rather that in a person than

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Speaker 1: someone who's in office and you don't know what they're

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Speaker 1: she is not voting not guilty.

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Speaker 1: Jur six works in technology, lives in Chelsea, gets her

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Speaker 1: She said she probably has different beliefs than mister Trump,

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Speaker 1: but quote, this is a free country. I you know,

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Speaker 1: young woman gets her information from TikTok, disagrees with Trump,

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Speaker 1: but believes it's a free country. Lives in Chelsea. I

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Speaker 1: think we're O for six guys, first six jurors. I

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Speaker 1: think we are O for six. Now, let me bring

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Speaker 1: pull her up here. But you live in New York City,

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Speaker 1: You've lived in New York City for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything in these first six jurors biographical details

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not, And having just done jury duty myself like

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Speaker 2: This at all.

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Speaker 1: No, And there's nothing that is from these first six

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is not good. All right, So that's the

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Speaker 2: first six.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to hit you in the next six in

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Speaker 1: a minute here, But I want to tell you a

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Speaker 2: Ali just said she had done jury duty recently.

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Speaker 1: I do think there's a significant factor here that I'm

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Speaker 1: going to discuss in a little bit. It is there

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Speaker 1: are two lawyers that have been seated on this jury

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Speaker 1: pool and they weren't stricken. You have the ability, as

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Speaker 1: the defense or the prosecution to just strike jurors that

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Speaker 1: you think are going to be uniquely disfavorable to you.

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Speaker 1: And I have been on jury duty only once my life.

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Speaker 1: I've only been called once, and it was a mall

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Speaker 1: had gotten into a contract dispute. I mean, he legitimately

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Speaker 1: when he was. This was not the real Santa Claus.

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Speaker 1: For the kids out there that are in the car,

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Speaker 1: Santa Claus was not on trial, not the real Santa Claus.

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Speaker 1: This was a pretend Santa Claus, and so pretend Santa

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Speaker 2: I was going to be on this jury.

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Speaker 1: And then by mutual agreement, the plaintiff and defense lawyer

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Speaker 2: This is all one hundred percentury.

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Speaker 1: That's the only time I've ever been called and actually

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Speaker 2: They didn't do that. They took me off because I

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Speaker 1: It's very strange, I would say, incredibly rare. When I

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Speaker 1: come back, I'm going to go through the other six jurors.

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Speaker 1: This almost never happens that you would have two lawyers

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Speaker 1: trial super fascinating, big gamble, I would say from both

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Speaker 1: think this is very, very interesting to contemplate. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: He's away on a school event until Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: My name Clay, Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: show breaking down what I think is a very bad

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Speaker 2: I would love to be wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's very fascinating how the jury is impacted. And if

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Speaker 1: they would be here, they will vacillate pretty significantly based

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Speaker 1: on the quality of the opening and closing arguments in

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Speaker 1: terms of what they believe. Now, this trial is going

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Speaker 1: to go on six to eight weeks, but ultimately it's

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Speaker 1: much like a coach with a team. You can only

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Speaker 1: you have. You can still mold them in the best

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Speaker 1: you're not going to have a lot of success. So

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Speaker 1: really the jury is more important than anything else. I

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Speaker 1: think that happens in this case because if you got

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Speaker 1: one or two people that are willing to really give

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Speaker 1: Trump potentially the benefit of the doubt as opposed to

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Speaker 1: try to throw the book at him, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're going to get a conviction. And you would think

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Speaker 1: the math would suggest that there would be at least

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Speaker 1: one or two Trump voters that could get on this jury.

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Speaker 1: At least one would be the rough math. Two maybe

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Speaker 1: if things went well. But I don't feel very good

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Speaker 1: about this jury right now based on the biographical sketch

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Speaker 1: details that I just read to you, and that I've

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Speaker 1: been reading from several other different media outlets. I'm open

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Speaker 1: if you guys, based on the twelve that I just

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Speaker 1: ran through, disagree. We'll take some of your calls. By

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Speaker 1: the twelve jurors that I just ran through.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I don't. I really don't. Yeah, I literally, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way this is gonna work

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Speaker 3: out well for Trump period.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: And if that's true, I still would circle back to

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Speaker 1: terms of the overall race. And that is because I

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Speaker 1: still believe that Joe Biden's lack of mental and physical

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Speaker 1: dispositive in this race, which is why I think Trump's

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Speaker 2: He's sharp.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 1: break down the Trump jury.

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Speaker 2: The twelve people that have been seated.

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Speaker 1: Reminder, they're gonna have six alternates, so some of the

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Speaker 1: twelve that I discussed with you may not end up

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Speaker 1: in the final jury pool. But that is the direction

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Speaker 1: that they are potentially going to going to be headed a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of different things. I told you that I wanted.

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Speaker 1: To play the audio of this new ad that they're

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Speaker 1: running that is making the case that Biden is actually really,

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Speaker 1: very very much mentally sharp.

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Speaker 2: Here is cut twelve. Listen to a snippet of that.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to tell a story about meeting President Biden,

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Speaker 4: because when you meet him, this guy's as sharp as

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Speaker 4: the mighty. They have nothing else to atte because they

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Speaker 4: can't attack the things that he's doing that are so

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Speaker 4: good for this country. Joe Biden gets things done.

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Speaker 2: That's just who he is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry you cannot convince me that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is mentally sharp. We've told you that this is where

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Speaker 1: this was gonna go, But can we play that ad

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Speaker 1: for you again? Because the guy says, the only thing

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Speaker 1: they can say about Biden is that he's mentally sharp,

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Speaker 1: because you can't attack what he does.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how bad of an ad this is. Well,

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Speaker 2: we played that when we were about fifteen second story about.

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Speaker 4: Meeting President Biden, because when you meet him, this guy's

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Speaker 4: as sharp as the Knight. They have nothing else to

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Speaker 4: attack because they can't attack the things that he's doing

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Speaker 4: that are so good for this country. Joe Biden gets

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Speaker 4: things done. That's just who he is.

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Speaker 1: They have nothing else to attack because he's getting so

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Speaker 1: many good things done for the country. I'm paraphrasing that argument.

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Speaker 1: This may be the worst ad of all time. If

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Speaker 1: you have to tell someone that someone is sharp, they

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Speaker 1: aren't sharp. Have you ever met a really smart person

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Speaker 1: and felt compelled to tell other people how smart they are?

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Speaker 1: It is not a good sign. But actually it's not

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Speaker 1: only that Biden is mentally and cognitively not able to

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Speaker 1: do the job. I've said on this show, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that Joe Biden could do any job that required

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Speaker 1: significant management in America today. I don't think he could

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Speaker 1: do the job.

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Speaker 2: Of a Walmart greeter.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he could stand in the front of

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Speaker 1: Walmart for eight hours and shake hands.

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Speaker 2: I legitimately do not believe he could do it.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't manage a gas station, couldn't do anything on this program,

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Speaker 1: couldn't do any job that we have at out Kick,

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Speaker 1: couldn't do basically any job in America, and that's the

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Speaker 1: most important job in America. But he's failed at everything.

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Speaker 1: So when you are arguing, the only thing they have

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Speaker 1: to attack him for is his mental fitness. Actually, no,

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Speaker 1: we can attack him for the border, for crime, for

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Speaker 1: war in Europe, for war in the Middle East, for inflation,

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Speaker 1: for the fact that your wages have not kept up

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Speaker 1: with the overall cost of goods in this country, which

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Speaker 1: is probably the single most important thing that people notice.

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Speaker 1: Everything that Biden hat touched has turned to crap. The

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Speaker 1: bidens touch. Everything he's been involved in is worse. And

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Speaker 1: I love Game of Thrones. Our crew pulled a line

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Speaker 1: from Taiwan Lanister, who was the dwarf in Game of Thrones?

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Speaker 1: Am I going to get a medal here because I

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Speaker 1: didn't say midget the dwarf the little person?

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Speaker 2: Can you say dwarf?

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Speaker 1: Now? I don't even know they called him a dwarf

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Speaker 1: on Game of Thrones. He says, if you listen to

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Speaker 1: this cut from Game of Thrones talking about mental acuity

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Speaker 1: of leadership.

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Speaker 3: Any man who must say I am the king is

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Speaker 3: no true king.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I have to play that again because they were

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Speaker 1: talking to me. I got them crossed up. That's Tyrian

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Speaker 1: who is the father of Sorry, Taiwan who is the.

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Speaker 2: Father of Tyrian? Is that right? Play it one more time.

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Speaker 2: Any man who must say I am the king is

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Speaker 2: no true king. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you have to argue that you are something, you

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Speaker 1: are in a tough spot. When you were arguing, I

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Speaker 1: am mentally on top of things. I'm mentally sharp. Seventy

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Speaker 1: five percent of people have already made up their mind

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Speaker 1: that Biden isn't so he's not going to be able

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Speaker 1: to change that. And if you saw the video I

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Speaker 1: shared this on social yesterday. He went to a Wawa

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, tried to order traversly, couldn't close a box,

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Speaker 1: you know, like a donut box that you would get

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Speaker 1: if you went into Dunkin Donuts or something like that.

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Speaker 2: You just have to put the box in.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't do it, couldn't shut the box, and then

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Speaker 1: was trying to order a milkshake and wasn't able to

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Speaker 1: order a milkshake. Maybe they decided ice cream wasn't a

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Speaker 1: good look, so now he's going milkshake. This is two

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Speaker 1: straight days they've sent him into Pennsylvania gas stations. Two

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Speaker 1: straight days he's been ignored. I think it's an attempt

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Speaker 1: to respond to the viral video that Trump had from

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Speaker 1: Chick fil A down in Atlanta, and all it does

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Speaker 1: is further illuminate how out of touch Biden is. They

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Speaker 1: even left him in those sunglasses, like Buck has pointed

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Speaker 1: out that they do to try to keep you from

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Speaker 1: being able to see how vacant his stare is.

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Speaker 2: It's really pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of crazy, when we come back, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: believe the NPR lady,