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Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk a little football today because we

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Speaker 1: Is he overpaid? Is he underpaid? Are sure that all

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Speaker 1: to what we've been talking about when it comes to

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Speaker 1: that franchise. The Bengals still had a staring contest with

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Speaker 1: It doesn't it sound like an Excel spreadsheet where I

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Speaker 1: I still appreciate Roger Goodell and the owners making some

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Speaker 1: is crazy, well relative to what they have, they are

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Speaker 1: completely you know what if he's not around, because we

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Speaker 1: Then Tony Romo's back broke and I saved you guys.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's an element to that with Bruck Purdy,

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Speaker 1: like I'm still giving you guys a discount, but never

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Speaker 1: forget without me, Like if I hadn't been here, y'all

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Speaker 1: And listen, this is an exercise that's never going to

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Speaker 1: Goodell listen. I don't mean it to my own horn.

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Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be some genius, but you could

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Speaker 1: see this one coming from ninety miles an hour or

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Speaker 1: ninety miles away. This was as clear as day, and

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Speaker 1: the breadcrumbs have been laid. Roger Goodell said, I do

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Speaker 1: see us having sixteen overseas games in the next five years.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is going to have an international package. They're

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Speaker 1: going to have an international package sixteen straight weeks at

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Speaker 1: six thirty Pacific Standard time in the morning. It was inevitable.

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Speaker 1: We knew it was gonna happen. And when he says

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Speaker 1: five years, guess where the negotiating window is for their

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Speaker 1: new television deal twenty twenty nine. So they're kept adding

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Speaker 1: these international games. They're putting together a package where Amazon, Netflix, CBS, Fox,

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Speaker 1: who knows any entity can bid on this thing. You're

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Speaker 1: going to have like Thursday Night Football, a it's not

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Speaker 1: technically primetime because in the morning, but a by itself

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Speaker 1: game package where you're not competing with anyone else. That's

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Speaker 1: the power of Thursday Night Football, Sunday Night Football, and

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Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. There is no counter NFL programming. It

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Speaker 1: does not exist. For as awesome and as big as

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Speaker 1: the CBS and Fox Game of the Week are in

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Speaker 1: the afternoon a lot of times, like Fox does have

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Speaker 1: another game going on. So if it's Packers Vikings, is

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Kevin Burkhart and that's a huge game

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Speaker 1: and going to do millions of viewers. The forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers might be playing Arizona Cardinals also on Fox on

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Speaker 1: the second tier, right, Well, you don't have to do

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Speaker 1: that with this package coming up. So I would imagine

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Speaker 1: this is going to be a massive new revenue source

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Speaker 1: and feels like a lot now. I think the international games,

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Speaker 1: like I understand what they're doing of building the fan base,

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Speaker 1: and that's a big deal to the streamers because you

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Speaker 1: can stream a game from wherever. This is not local

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Speaker 1: Fox in Arizona. That I can watch the Cardinals, like

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Speaker 1: if the Cardinals are on Amazon Prime, like I can

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Speaker 1: watch them in Australia if I want, I can watch

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Speaker 1: them in Germany. I can watch them anywhere. I think

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Speaker 1: those people get I can sign an Amazon Prime. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I need a VPN, but obviously Netflix is a worldwide company.

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Speaker 1: So Roger Goodell is telling you, so get ready because

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Speaker 1: this is something you know. For me personally, like I'm

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Speaker 1: not really looking forward to that, Like it's I've had,

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Speaker 1: Like I have enough football in my life. I don't

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Speaker 1: need that extra game on a Sunday. Uh. But like

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna argue over because it's inevitable at this

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Speaker 1: point in time. Okay, before we get out of here,

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Speaker 1: let's I want to welcome you to Chasing Challenges brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Microsoft in the NFL, just like in

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Speaker 1: In this segment, we explore some of the biggest challenges

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Speaker 1: being faced in the NFL and how they can be overcome.

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Speaker 1: Whatever challenge you're facing, Microsoft empowers you with the expertise

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Speaker 1: to say bring it on. This week, we're discussing the

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Speaker 1: challenge face by football because the NFL is all in

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Speaker 1: on flag football. They're allowing the pros to play in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight Olympics in flag football. Safe to say,

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Speaker 1: I would like our chances if guys like Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: or Saquon Barkley or Justin Jefferson are allowed to play.

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Speaker 1: But I think one challenge for the NFL, speaking of streaming,

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Speaker 1: is growing the sport. Growing the sport not only domestically

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Speaker 1: but internationally. In football, and I've heard a lot of

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Speaker 1: people say this, which is clear. Like in basketball, even

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Speaker 1: in the pros, I can get ten pros and we

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Speaker 1: can have a pickup game in the offseason, even if

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Speaker 1: it's not quite NBA standards. We can get really serious

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Speaker 1: call fouls and play the sport in baseball, as long

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Speaker 1: as I got a pitcher in a batter, I can

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Speaker 1: just do simulated batting practice in football shorts and a

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Speaker 1: T shirt. Like I'm not actually playing football. Right, You

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Speaker 1: need a helmet, you need shoulder pads, you usually need referees, coach,

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Speaker 1: you need a lot. Right. You can't call your own pis.

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Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. But flag football has

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Speaker 1: always been an element of like, it's actually pretty easy

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Speaker 1: to play. We've all kind of done it. In one thing,

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Speaker 1: the NFL has done a really good job of, i

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Speaker 1: would say, over the last half decade, becoming like this

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Speaker 1: mix of sports meets reality show and just its importance

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Speaker 1: in the culture. Has been adding a huge, huge female audience.

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Speaker 1: And one thing they've been pushing is trying to get

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Speaker 1: flag football into high school, and not just in high school,

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Speaker 1: but for girls. Well, if I get a girl. The

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Speaker 1: reason football is so popular in America is because, by far,

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Speaker 1: and that's got a lot of different reasons, but by far,

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Speaker 1: of all the high school sports, the most amount of

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Speaker 1: kids play football in their youth. And if you play

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Speaker 1: something usually just pay attention to it. That's usually when

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Speaker 1: you become a fan. Or if you're young, you become

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Speaker 1: a fan, you want to try and play it. And

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Speaker 1: if I can open that up to maybe some people

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Speaker 1: that aren't physically big enough and don't feel comfortable getting tackled,

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Speaker 1: and obviously girls that don't play tackle football, it just

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Speaker 1: adds to the business model. So the challenge for the

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Speaker 1: NFL is like, how do we keep growing? Have we peaked?

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Speaker 1: They never think like that. That's how losers like, aren't

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Speaker 1: you rich enough? Just stop? If you get on the internet,

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Speaker 1: people always tell you that. Right to other people, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's usually not how winners think. When you get aggressive,

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Speaker 1: you get extra aggressive. And the NFL has proven that

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Speaker 1: time and time again. They see an inch, they want

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Speaker 1: a mile, and they go pedal to the metal, one

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Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour every step of the way. And

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Speaker 1: the league has never been more popular. There's never been

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Speaker 1: more people watching, and they want more because in business,

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Speaker 1: you're either growing or you're dying. Obviously a huge challenge

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Speaker 1: for Roger Goodell who has to take into account everyone

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, all the coaches, the gms, and the players,

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Speaker 1: but also try to drive the revenue. So all those

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Speaker 1: guys who always want more money. It's like that money's

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Speaker 1: not just going to come from this guy. Well, this

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Speaker 1: is clearly an area. I mean, the flag football with

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Speaker 1: something that they're all in on. And the challenge for

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Speaker 1: the NFL is like, how do you get more people

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Speaker 1: to watch? And the way to get more people to

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Speaker 1: Okay, mail back time at John Middlecoff's the Instagram. Firing

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Speaker 1: those dms, get your questions answered here on the show.

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Speaker 1: Very very easy to get involved. We need your participation

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Speaker 1: will start with the will longtime listener and love the show,

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Speaker 1: but I hate your opinion of the Falcons. They have

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Speaker 1: whiffed on quarterbacks since Matt Ryan retired. How are they

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Speaker 1: supposed to win your respect with Mariota and Desmond Ritter?

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Speaker 1: You say it all the time, he's a coach and

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Speaker 1: quarterback league. With that logic, I'd rather swing at Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins than see one more game of that. You never

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Speaker 1: call out other franchises who have quarterback issues as soon

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Speaker 1: you never call them dogshit franchises. Did I say that

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Speaker 1: about the Falcons? As soon as that position hits, all

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Speaker 1: of our problem go away. It's a quarterback problem. The

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Speaker 1: offensive stacked, and if Pennix the new pass rushers can

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Speaker 1: be decent, they will run the NFC South. I pray

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Speaker 1: to God every night before I fall asleep that they

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Speaker 1: finally shove it up your ass this year. You know,

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Speaker 1: let Diddy watch on that one. I would say this

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Speaker 1: they run the organization. And ever since kind of the

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Speaker 1: Raheem who everyone was bullish on and thought like, oh,

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Speaker 1: everyone likes him. I don't know him personally, but McVeigh Kyle,

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Speaker 1: highly of him. Easy got a root for and then

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Speaker 1: they come in they desperately need defense. They fall in

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Speaker 1: love with Michael Pennix. After they give Cousins eighty ninety

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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. It's like that that's a poorly run operation,

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Speaker 1: because if they could do it again, and they knew

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Speaker 1: they were gonna draft Pennis at eight, they could have

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Speaker 1: four year old kid who had been starting in college forever,

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Speaker 1: that player, but like the previous year you went into

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Speaker 1: And you can say it's a quarterback problem. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback problem, but like that was like you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get it, like he's I think he could be one

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Speaker 1: next year taking London who's a good player. But it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like they have any organizational philosophy. Their

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Speaker 1: he's a great guy, but when it comes to football,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's safe to say they know what's

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Speaker 1: going on. So, like, do I think you're like a

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Speaker 1: Sweet stadium, some history with the franchise, but like I

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Speaker 1: And we talked about this with the Steelers starts with

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Speaker 1: starts with the owner. It's pretty rare that, Like the Crafts,

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Speaker 1: I don't think really they know what's going on. But

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I think you guys, now

639
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: who knows panics is good? Like you said, maybe you'll

640
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: be solid, but run the division. The reason the Bucks

641
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: are good is because like the Gladi's like, yeah, we

642
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: don't really know what's going on. Once upon a time,

643
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: we gave it all to Gruden, and now we give

644
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: it all to Jason Light. Jason Light's better than anything

645
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: you got. And like, this is football, while it's very complicated,

646
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of important who's running your franchise. They

647
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: got Baker Mayfield, but who's running the franchise. Jason LT

648
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. I just feel like you guys

649
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing. I mean, honestly, the trading

650
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: a future first round pick for a guy who, like, again,

651
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: these aren't my opinions, was off boards, been well reported,

652
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: texting around people, They're like, it wasn't on our board.

653
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: It's like, what are we doing? How? And you guys

654
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: aren't good enough to take like question Hell, a couple

655
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: of years ago you had the chance to take Jalen Carter,

656
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: but it's like I'm a little too questionable, and now

657
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: you take questionable people. It's like you ever won shit

658
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: since then? What changed? How big of an advantage if

659
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: any is knowing the other GM in an NFL trade.

660
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Rams fan, and it seems like whether

661
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: less Sneed is dealing with the coach or GM who

662
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: previously worked for the Rams, a really good deal for

663
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: the Rams seems to materialize getting Stafford from the Lions

664
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: the first rounder we just got from the Falcons. Now

665
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: that Gladstone is in Jacksonville, if we deal with the

666
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: Jags in the future, would Snead have the advantage of

667
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: knowing Gladstone's tendencies or vice versa. Also, my four year

668
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: old son is addicted to watching golf. I've never played

669
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: around in my life. You have any tips into getting

670
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: him started, I'd appreciate it. Uh. I would just say

671
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: that take him the driving range, get him a set

672
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: of like little kids clubs, and have him go wax

673
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: and ball. We'll see if he really likes it, you know.

674
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: So I would do that. Get him a putter, get

675
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: him like a driver, and get him like a little

676
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: iron and just take him to like a public driving

677
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: range and have him go whack away. I would say

678
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: on the Rams thing, you know, I would agree on

679
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: the Falcons trade. I mean that was every GM in

680
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: the league would have made that trade for less Need.

681
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they just took advantage of desperation.

682
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Raehie Morris is one of mcveigh's best friends

683
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: and he's a defensive guy, so clearly he wants that player.

684
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: I would say on the Stafford thing, I mean they

685
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: gave up two first round picks. You know, golf obviously

686
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: now would be very valuable, but at the time wasn't.

687
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: But they included so they got golf in two first

688
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: round picks. You know, the Lions had their choice, like

689
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: the Niners and the Rams both really wanted Stafford. Both

690
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: were offering two first round picks Jimmy Garoppolo or Jared

691
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: Goff and they benefited because as Homes had been from

692
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: LA or worked in LA and knew golf. So yeah,

693
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. He just clearly all things are just

694
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: working out in their favor now, granted like last year.

695
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy and this is why I think

696
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: you got to be careful. And I'm guilty of this

697
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: of this draft sucks. This draft's good or even my

698
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: buddies in the league, like I hated this draft. I

699
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: don't know what the Niners were doing there. I didn't

700
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: love this. I love this I remember last year, it's like, God,

701
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: the Rams traded that much to get Braden Fisk. I

702
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: remember talking to people that thought that was pretty crazy.

703
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think that's a pretty good deal

704
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: looked it looks like after one year. So I just

705
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: think we never know, you know. I think the Stafford

706
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: golf trade is just an all time win win. I mean,

707
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: the Lions do not regret that they traded Stafford, who

708
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: didn't want to be there anymore. They ended up getting

709
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: picked six that they turned into Gibbs and Laporta. They

710
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: got Jared Goff, So I think think it's kind of

711
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: I think Jameis and Williams too, if I remember correctly. Yeah,

712
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't put that one underneath like fleecing

713
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: for the Rams. But I hear what you're saying. I

714
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I would say, I Gladstone, I'd

715
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: want to do a deal with him because that that's

716
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: a pretty easy deal for the Browns to do. And

717
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: I like Travis Hunter, but holy shit, I'm not a

718
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers fan. But I remember you saying you

719
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: would play hardball with Brock Purdy and giving him two

720
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: hundred plus million would be a mistake. Well, he didn't

721
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: get two hundred million in guarantees, but man, that contract

722
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: is insane. Didn't hear any reporting about negotiations going back

723
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: and forth like last year with Ayuk. It might be

724
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Monday morning quarterbacking, but it seems like trading Ayuk was

725
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: seems like not trading Ayuk was a mistake. And the

726
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: pretty contract feels risky too, when the state of an

727
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: unproven roster. What are the forty nine ers doing? And

728
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: have they lost their fastball? I mean, I've said this

729
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: over and over. I think they got a deal. I mean,

730
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: ideally you would have got like Baker Mayfield's contract, but

731
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear they were never going to accept that.

732
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: And after the last three years of I would say

733
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: no team had three consecutive years of holdouts, some years

734
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: multiple players. The Niners didn't want to deal with that,

735
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: and I don't think brock Perty wanted to deal with that.

736
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: It's why I respect Micah Parsons, who's just showing up

737
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: to practices. It just makes getting everything done easier. Just

738
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: show up, make the other person want to do a

739
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: deal with you. I think sometimes the holding out. I'm

740
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: not against holding out, but it just creates, especially in

741
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: this day and age of media and social media, just

742
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: such a shit show. The Auk thing was an embarrassment,

743
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: and I think the forty nine ers once they got

744
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: to training camp, he could deny trades because the only

745
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: way trade would go through is he had to accept

746
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: their terms. So like they were trading him away and

747
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: he kept saying, no, I'm not signing the Patriots, I'm

748
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: not signing with the Browns. What they should have done

749
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: is traded up before the draft. It was a huge

750
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: mistake because by then he probably would have accepted. Once

751
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: he got to training camp, he has heels dug in

752
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: and clearly, I mean they would have traded him at

753
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: the combine, but no one will take a guy with

754
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: a shattered knee. Now I'm not saying that the deal

755
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: is a disaster because he got injured. No one, you

756
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: can never predict an injury, But like that, that was

757
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: an embarrassing moment for the forty nine ers. It truly was,

758
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: and everyone, the Mayokos, the Kawakami's, the Barrows, all the

759
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: guys that cover the Niners closely, I mean well reported

760
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: that that was something that made the forty nine ers.

761
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: They didn't like that, and they've been through tough contract negotiations,

762
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: but Purdy was never going to do that. I think

763
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a reward for saving

764
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: their ass. Now you can say, is that great business

765
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: or not? I mean, but he did. And I also

766
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: think this that when you factor in that Brock Purdy

767
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: got fifty million dollars less in total guarantees than Dak Prescott, Like,

768
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: that's a pretty big win. That's a pretty big win. Now,

769
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: I'd argue that they were never going to give him

770
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott money, but like that contract exists, and I

771
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: don't think there's much difference between the two, especially when

772
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: Brock's younger and moves much better. So yeah, I would

773
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: say that, you know, in the day and age of

774
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: quarterback contracts, I would say that that deal is pretty normal.

775
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: You know, it really is. Now, it's a win for party.

776
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: It's a ton of money, right, But I think for

777
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, they probably at one point in

778
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 1: time prepared like if this thing got ugly, we would

779
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: have had to pay more. I know, you primarily cover.

780
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: I hate the word cover because I'm not like a reporter.

781
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: I know, it's just a most of you don't care

782
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: about like the semantics of my job. I just watch

783
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: games and give my opinions on them. I wouldn't say cover,

784
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: but listen, that's maybe an insecurity of mine. I hear

785
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: what you're saying, and I'm not putting it. This isn't

786
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: your fault, but I'm wondering if you ever got into

787
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: the NHL with the physicality, pace of play, and effort.

788
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: It seems like a sport you'd mentioned more in your podcast, Gocaines,

789
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: I've gotten into it more in the last couple of years.

790
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: That whatever they're all star thing. I forget the name

791
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: the four Nations. I mean is that USA Canada. Those

792
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: two games are two of the better sporting events any

793
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: sport I've seen in recent memory. I was glued have

794
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: nothing but admiration. I think I view hockey like I

795
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: do MMA. I don't really watch MMA, and I know

796
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: some of you that like get all the pay per views.

797
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I respect the living I couldn't have any more respect

798
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: for what it takes to get in the octagon. How

799
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: big of a badass all those guys are. I love

800
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: Dana White, I love that operation. I admire how they

801
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: handled twenty twenty. He was the first guy that'd been

802
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: like fuck this. A lot of people followed suit, and

803
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: I just I admire a lot of things about the MMA,

804
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't watch it. I would say similar with hockey,

805
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: Like I respect the living shit out of the players,

806
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: how hard it is to play that sport, how they

807
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: all are missing teeth because they're all getting pucks to

808
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: the face, how tough you have to be to play hockey.

809
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: But I just don't really watch. Now I will pay

810
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: a little more attention, like to the Final four here,

811
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: I would love to see Edmonton. When I made a mistake,

812
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: I put one thousand dollars at ten to one on

813
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: the Capitals, and I thought about splitting it going five

814
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: hundred five hundred on Edmonton. I obviously a huge regret.

815
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: I wish I just would have put that on Edmonton,

816
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: who was like eighteen to one. I think the Caps

817
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: were ten to one in your Canes just beat the

818
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: shit out of them. I remember watching last year I

819
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: had the Vancouver and watching Edmonton take them down. I

820
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: would love to see McDavid win it. But I don't

821
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: pretend like I'm not a huge hockey guy. I just

822
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: don't really. I only have so much time in my life.

823
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I spend so much time watching football in the fall,

824
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: and golf's Thursday through Sunday, you know, basically year round,

825
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: which I consume, but definitely when football, I don't miss

826
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: really many golf days. Besides, if I'm out playing, so

827
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just only have so

828
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: much mental energy to put in. Doesn't mean I don't

829
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of admiration and respect for the sport.

830
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: I know you're not a big soccer guy, but you're

831
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: a Niner guy. I'm from Glasgow, Scotland, and my rival team,

832
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: the Rangers, I'm a Celtic guy. He's talking soccer is

833
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: in the midst of a takeover from the forty nine

834
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: er Enterprises. Curious to see if this is gaining any

835
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: traction at all in the States, as it's massive news

836
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: over here. The takeover should be complete soon and sadly

837
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: means the Rangers might actually be good enough to compete.

838
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: I suppose My question is two parter one, have you

839
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: heard of this news at all? Based off your knowledge

840
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: of running an NFL franchise, how would you see the

841
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: enterprise running a huge European soccer team. Ps If you

842
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: get any time read up on the old Firm Derby

843
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: biggest and best rivalry in sports. Well, the forty nine

844
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: ers bought years ago a franchise called Leads, and I

845
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: think they just within the last couple months qualified And

846
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: they had done this before for the Premier League. Again,

847
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: they had been they had qualified for the Premier League

848
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: and been knocked down, and now they're back and they

849
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Speaker 1: threw a huge like parade in the area. And you know,

850
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have a unique setup, right, Like

851
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: Howie kind of runs point on most things. It's not

852
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: like he negotiates every detail of every contract, but ultimately

853
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: nothing gets signed off without him. The forty nine ers,

854
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: like John Lynch, they have a cap crew that's kind

855
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: of run by Parrague, who is Jed York's right hand

856
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: money guy. And Parrague runs point on the soccer And

857
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: I know Prague a little bit. I haven't talked to

858
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: him in a while, but like Leeds was a huge

859
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: passion project of his and he used to tell me

860
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: like they were a sleeping giant. And they have brought

861
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: people from America to run it over there, and it's

862
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: they've done a good job like that. They take it really,

863
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: really seriously. So if he is heavily involved in this,

864
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: I would imagine it's gonna work. I would bet on

865
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: it working. I think what they've tried to do is

866
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: like obviously, you know the Glazers or stan Kronky on

867
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: some of the main teams, like to get a main team,

868
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: now you need billions of dollars. I think they've tried

869
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: to like buy sleeping giants and resurrect them. Obviously it's

870
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: just cheaper to buy. It's like I remember Coward told

871
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: me years ago. He's like, if you can't afford it,

872
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: it makes more sense to find a home that you

873
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: can remodel yourself. Then find a home that's already been flipped,

874
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: and they're adding fifty percent to the sticker price because

875
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: you're paying for their remodel then to make a profit

876
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: on And it's like, yeah, it's why the house I'm

877
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: living in right now was a full gut job. But

878
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: the house would have been worked double if the person

879
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: before me had done what I did to it, so

880
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: it actually saved me money. And I think that I

881
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: look at the way the forty nine ers operate, you know,

882
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: they're not trying to find a deal necessarily they're just

883
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: trying to find something with a lot of upside, and

884
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: the way you just described it, I would imagine as

885
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: the way they viewed it. And Parrague is good with money.

886
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: I want to know what you think about the quarterback

887
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: win stat For example, a lot of people in the

888
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: media mentions Joe Burrow beating the Chiefs when Mahomes throws

889
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: two picks, but when a guy like Alan goes nuclear

890
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, he just can't get it done. Should

891
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: Josh play some edge rusher next year to help on defense?

892
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the media elites, the over

893
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: educated group that always loves any sort of a narrative

894
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 1: to shut down because the people pushing that aren't intellectually

895
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: you know, their capacity isn't quite on their level. And

896
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: I view this as a classic. Like the media love

897
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: saying quarterback wins are not a stat, I would agree

898
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: in an individual situation. In a playoff game, you can

899
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: lose a playoff Aaron Rodgers has lost playoff games where

900
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: he's played well. Earlier on in the McCarthy era, he

901
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: played well in games the defense was atrocious and they lost.

902
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: That's happened. But you could not be a good quarterback

903
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: over the course of five years and have your team

904
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: not win a lot in the regular season. Now, individual

905
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: playoff games you can play crappy. One play can determine it.

906
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has played well in a lot of playoff

907
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: games in which he's lost. I would say Patrick Mahomes

908
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: has played to average in some games that they've won. Right,

909
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: So it's like, totally agree playoff quarterback wins shouldn't be

910
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: a stat but your win lost record as a regular

911
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: season quarterback does matter, right, it just does. Like I

912
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: actually view last year with Joe Burrow winning nine games

913
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. But I hate it when people go quarterback

914
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: wins is not a stat, well bullshit over the course

915
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: of multiple years it for bet Your ASCID is why

916
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: do we think the positions so important? Because if you're

917
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: a good player, you're gonna win a lot of games.

918
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: I don't care how average your team is unless you're

919
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: playing on one of the worst teams ever. Like, if

920
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: you put Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson

921
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: on who just drafted number one the Titans, Yeah, actually

922
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: they probably would have won like eight nine games because

923
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: they had a good defense. They would have been good,

924
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: big fan of the pod. I'm a dyared Browns fan,

925
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: which sucks most of the time, but they seem to

926
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: always leave you with slivers of hope. For example, this year,

927
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,959
Speaker 1: I don't expect them to win many games. However, there's

928
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: the hope that these two rookie quarterbacks in Gabriel and Sanders,

929
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: that they could be the guy we've been searching for.

930
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, they have to play these guys

931
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: as much as possible to figure it out. There's the answer.

932
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: Given that we have two first rounders in the next

933
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: year's draft and good talent coming in at the quarterback position.

934
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the Browns floor and ceiling

935
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: for the season, and do you think they should start

936
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: one of these two rookies and forget about Flacco and

937
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: Pickett for twenty twenty five. I think I saw a

938
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: headline today that Mary Kay, who is basically the encyclopedia

939
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: and Walter Cronkite when it comes to the Browns knows All,

940
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 1: reported that the first team reps starting at OTAs will

941
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: be Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. My guess is that

942
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: with the ones that Joe Flacco won't get any reps

943
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: with the ones during OTAs, and that's smart. He doesn't

944
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: need any All the reps should go to because Kenny

945
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: Pickett might be your starting quarterback. I don't have an

946
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: issue with that, but I think Dylan Gabriel, who was

947
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: drafted above Shador, totally get that. And Shador Sanders like,

948
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 1: give them reps right now, and then in training camp

949
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: you have some idea bring them back and give it

950
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: a week, kind of rotate, and whoever's playing better starts

951
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: getting more reps moving forward. But you could argue, don't

952
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: even start Joe Flacco. I think it's actually, when I

953
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: just came out of my mouth, I think what makes

954
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: it difficult to do that at least week one or

955
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: week two is that if everyone on the team thinks

956
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback, it's hard to look Miles Garrett

957
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: and some other guys I almost dropped, like some other names, like, yeah,

958
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: Nick Chub's not even on the team. Is Mark Cooper

959
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: on the team? Has a Mark Cooper signed?

960
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: That?

961
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: Did Mark Cooper sign anywhere? But you know some of

962
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: your veteran players, they're trying, they're playing their ass off,

963
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: and if they think that Dylan Gabriel shad Or Sanders

964
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: starts week one, They're not the best quarterback. They're not

965
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: gonna love that. Now you can easily do that, like

966
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: after a month, but I would. I guess A'mari Cooper

967
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: was traded last year to the Mills. Huh. I listen

968
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 1: to it every day. Really great stuff. I'm a little

969
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: confused on the narrative that Stafford is significantly better than perty.

970
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: Last year, Party and Stafford had almost identical numbers, but

971
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: Stafford had less had four less picks. Stafford also has

972
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: the benefit of having a better defense and healthier offense

973
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: than Brock, yet Brock and him had the same stats. Also,

974
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: Brock is significantly better runner than Stafford. Everyone says they

975
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: would take a thirty seven year old Stafford over twenty

976
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: five year old Party, and it truly makes no sense

977
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: to me? Is it? Because Stafford has a ring and

978
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: Party doesn't well like for the next five years, you

979
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: would have to take Party if I had to play

980
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: a big game on the road in the elements, like

981
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: Purty has been awful in rain and Cold. Luckily he

982
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: plays in San Francisco and he avoids that. But that

983
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: game that Stafford had against the Eagles in that snow

984
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: shitty weather, like I have zero faith than Perty can

985
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: have that. So in a one game I would take

986
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. I would also say, in a one game

987
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: scenario against the best competition, I would take the thirty

988
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: seven year old Matt Stafford. But over the contract that

989
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: Purty just got, I would give that to Party over

990
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: giving it to Stafford over the next four or five years. Right,

991
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: So I think in a short, short window, Matt Stafford

992
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: on an individual game basis, is a better player. I

993
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: think Matt Stafford at times last year is a top

994
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: five quarterback in the NFL. And I just don't think

995
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: that about Perty now. I also don't think Perty's like

996
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: the twentieth quarterback. But I think Stafford's a better player

997
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: now if they were the same age, like, Stafford is

998
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: in a different universe as a talent, and if you

999
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,959
Speaker 1: gave there's a reason that Kyle Shanahan wanted a trade

1000
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: for him when MCVA ended up getting him. He wanted

1001
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: him why because Stafford is a special, special player. Now

1002
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: he's older and beat up, but and there's a reason

1003
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: they're going year to year. But I think when it

1004
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: just came to a one game basis, if all the

1005
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: marbles were on the line, there's only a couple quarter

1006
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL. If they're all healthy, I would want

1007
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: over Matt Stafford. Okay, last question, what do you think?

1008
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: Why do you think the NHL is always the fourth

1009
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: most popular North American sport? The product is clearly much

1010
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 1: better than the NBA, and the players actually care about

1011
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: the sports and the games. What does the NHL have

1012
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: to do to get more popular? We talked about this

1013
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: with football. Every single human I knew growing up, whether

1014
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: you played in high school, whether you played in junior high,

1015
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: whether you just played pickup had played a little basketball,

1016
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: because most people at one point in time in their

1017
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: life just shoot baskets, played pickup hoops, watch basketball on television.

1018
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: It's an easy sport to play wherever you live, right.

1019
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: I've only lived in one cold area place in Philly

1020
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Other than that, I've lived

1021
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: in areas that it does not snow, Arizona, Fresno, the

1022
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: Bay Area, Davis, San Luis, Obispo. So what you play

1023
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: in high school, what you grow up playing in when

1024
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: you're young, is to me, what you usually gravitate toward.

1025
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: Usually diehard tennis people like in junior high, high school.

1026
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: If you play in college, probably pay attention to Wimbledon, Right,

1027
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: Why because they played it? Like why do I like

1028
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: football and golf? Well, I've been playing it when I

1029
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: was young, so I liked it and I still like

1030
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: it when I'm forty, just like I like it when

1031
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm fifty or sixty. Where a lot of us all

1032
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: over the country, if you live in the South, if

1033
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: you live in Texas, if you live you know, on

1034
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: the West coast, you're not in freezing cold temperatures. Where's

1035
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: hockey Big Michigan, Minnesota, the Dakota's where it's freezing cold, Canada, Russia?

1036
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: So like, it is a very geographically specific sport where baseball, basketball,

1037
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: and football are played in all those areas as well,

1038
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: and hockey is just not that pop I would imagine

1039
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: if you go to Texas, or you go to North

1040
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: or South Carolina or Florida. I know they have pro

1041
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: teams there, but I'm just talking about you know, people

1042
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: playing lacrosse has become more more and more popular over

1043
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, right, but where is it the

1044
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: most popular? In the Northeast? So like the more and

1045
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: more people that are young that play directly benefit the

1046
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: sport on television at the highest level. And more people,

1047
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: way more people in America play basketball or have played

1048
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: basketball than have ever played hockey. So I think that's

1049
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: a huge alec and it's just it's a it's specifically

1050
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: it's played on ice where I also think, like every

1051
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: generation now basketball is a way bearer sport, but it

1052
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: also has like just massive superstars. When I was a

1053
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: kid who had I grew up on Michael Joe and

1054
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: then we've morphed into Lebron and Steph those are three

1055
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: of the biggest. I mean, Michael's in my lifetime. The

1056
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: biggest athlete of my lifetime is Michael Jordan, and I

1057
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: would put Stephan Lebron on the short list not named

1058
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Tom Brady. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky is a very very famous individual, but like

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Speaker 1: he is by far, I would say, the most famous

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Speaker 1: hockey player still to this day, there's like a Ruthie

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Speaker 1: in quality to him. I know, Sidney's big, Ovechkin's big,

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Speaker 1: McDavid's big. I don't even think they approached Wayne Gretzky.

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Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky was the last time he played hockey twenty

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Speaker 1: plus years. When you retire late nineties, so I think

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Speaker 1: if you are gonna have a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: don't play, you're gonna need an absolute superstar. He retired

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Speaker 1: in ninety nine, so he hasn't played in twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at Michael Jordan. I mean, Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: hasn't place. It's two thousand and three. This year I

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Speaker 1: graduated high school. I'm forty years old. Now, I would

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Speaker 1: say Michael Jordan, I mean, it's as famous as ever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, his shoes are more popular than ever every

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Speaker 1: single person, I would say, most people in America that

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Speaker 1: just fall a sports you just say Michael Jordan. I

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Speaker 1: mean it feels like he's as famous as he's ever been.

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Speaker 1: I would say. The other thing is, how many people

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Speaker 1: do you see wearing Jordan's now? I mean they've become Listen,

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Speaker 1: call me old school. It's not like I wear suits

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Speaker 1: very often. I think wearing tennis shoes with a suit

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Speaker 1: is a fucking ugly look. I think it's a trend

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Speaker 1: that I'm just not behind, and I don't pretend to be.

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Speaker 1: You know, the trendiest individual, but I think it's a

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Speaker 1: terrible look, but it's really popular, and it's just really

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Speaker 1: popular just I would say Jordan's in general. People wear

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Speaker 1: them all over the place. Wherever you go, you see them,

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Speaker 1: And I guess it's a long winded way of saying

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's much hockey can do. I think

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Speaker 1: there's a weather dynamic there that's tough to overcome and

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Speaker 1: won't ever be overcome. It doesn't mean like if you

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Speaker 1: turn on a playoff hockey game, it's not if you

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Speaker 1: like sports and competition, it's not an incredible product. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I would say the same about baseball and basketball,

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Speaker 1: Like you turn on Nick Pacers, is gonna be a war?

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Speaker 1: You turned on Denver and Oka see a lot of

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Speaker 1: those games, like this is incredible competition, and it's like

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Speaker 1: we just know. I don't really know. I follow sports

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Speaker 1: for a living. It's like the only thing I've ever

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Speaker 1: loved beside like my family, most of my life. And

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Speaker 1: I don't really know the rules like icing kind of

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Speaker 1: get that like some penalt high sticking, like can you

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Speaker 1: not throw the puck? Like I don't Baseball, basketball and football,

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Speaker 1: I think it helps to all these games are somewhat complicated.

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Speaker 1: There are some rules. I would say most sports fans

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Speaker 1: like understand what they're watching. It's what makes like trying

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Speaker 1: to watch stuff you don't know, Like if I throw

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Speaker 1: on trying to pick a random so like cricket, you know,

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Speaker 1: it looks kind of cool, but I got no clue

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Speaker 1: what's going on. None. You could argue that's easy to

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Speaker 1: follow about golf, like pretty basic parbardy or bogie. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was like, hit it out of bounds, you got

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Speaker 1: to rehit, hit in the water, you gott to drop it.

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Speaker 1: It's not really that complicated. You know, football is really complicated,

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Speaker 1: but we've been watching for so long we have a

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Speaker 1: somewhat of a pretty good idea of mostly what's going on. Baseballs,

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Speaker 1: you could argue the most basic, get three outs, get

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Speaker 1: three strikes, four balls. You know, you got nine guys

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Speaker 1: the bat and you just rotate. Get nine innings. It's

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Speaker 1: just you got four bases. So I think the the

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Speaker 1: ease to understand everything helps too. So I think there

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Speaker 1: are probably a lot of dynamics again respect hockey, but

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Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said like I was super

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Speaker 1: locked in about it.

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