1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm notcome to step 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: whenever told your production by Heart Radio. 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: And we for this feminist movie Friday. If you're happening 4 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: to listen on a Friday, hey, good job. If not, 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: no matter, it's still feminist movie day. Whatever day you 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: want to slip in there. We are throwing it back 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: all the way back to nineteen eighty y'all. Yes, for 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: a cult classic, which is now what it is, deemed 9 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: one with some interesting mixed reviews, but a movie that 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: has made its mark so much so that it spawned 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: TV shows, musicals, and even a possible remake currently in 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: the works. Supposedly, I don't know, there's even a documentary 13 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: of where we are now. Spoiler alert, We're not much 14 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: better off. Actually we're worse. We are talking about the 15 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: classic nine to five. So just an FYI, from the 16 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: day I suggested this movie to the day I wrote 17 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: this damn outline, changes have occurred and sadness has ensued, 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: and the way we were talking about this movie has 19 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: swiftly changed. So if something seems kind of like we're 20 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: coming backtracking and be like, well, it's actually this now, 21 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: it's because in the middle of literally two weeks. A 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: movie from the nineteen eighties has already changed, like perspectives 23 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: just within these two weeks of in twenty twenty five 24 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: Deep Breath and Out. But yes, so with everything that's happening, 25 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: it seems it is. It's the fact that we are 26 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: going backwards. We thought it would be a good time 27 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: to revisit a classic. One of the many things this 28 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: movie did. It catapulted the beginning of Dolly Parton's acting career. 29 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: It was her first debut. And even if people did 30 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 2: not like this movie, people said it was unrealistic. Of course, 31 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: it's unrealistic. Sorry. People said it was too cheeky. People 32 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: said it was too sitcomy, all of these, all of 33 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: these criticisms, but the one thing they all agreed, Dolly 34 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: Parton is a movie star. Literally was several different people's takes. 35 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: Most of the reviews that I read, by the way, 36 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: were from men, were from men, which should be noted anyway, 37 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: moving on, of course, she also helped with the musical 38 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: talent by writing the titled song and hit nine to five, which, 39 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: by the way, Caroline Irvin, previous host of the show, 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: kills that song. It is her song in character see, 41 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: she does a phenomenal job. She dances, she takes on 42 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: the spirit of Dolly Parton, hits those high notes like 43 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: nobody's business just in case it's a banger, and she 44 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: hits it. Y'all anyway. Originally an idea from Jane Fonda 45 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: and others from her production company at the time, after 46 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 2: learning about a women's organization of the same name, nine 47 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: to five. A quote from her says, my ideas for 48 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: films always come from things that I hear and perceive 49 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: in my daily life. A very old friend of mine 50 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: has started an organization in Boston called nine to five, 51 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: which was an association of women office workers. I heard 52 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: them talking about their work and they had some great 53 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: stories and have always been attracted to those nineteen forties 54 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: films with three female stars. And yes, this is absolutely 55 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: that kind of like hijinks ensues with these three women's 56 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: trying to help each other out but supporting each other. 57 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: I love it. This movie has been impactful and still 58 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: things relevant today. So let's start with the characters. The 59 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: four characters were going to mainly talk about. Of course, 60 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: we will throw some other people in there, but just 61 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: so you know, Judy Burnley played by Jane Fonda, is 62 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: the new worker, new to work and recently divorced. Yes, 63 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: she had the stereotypical husband cheating on her with the 64 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: secretary of course. Then we have Violet Newstead played by 65 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: Lily Tomlin, which, by the way, one of my favorite, 66 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: older favorite movies when I first came into the US, 67 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: was called Big Business and it's with her, Lily Tomlin 68 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: and Bette Midler such a like. I have not watched 69 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: that since. But Lily Tomlin is a genius, is a 70 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: comedic genius. But she plays the pro and seasoned worker 71 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: who is the real brains behind the division, a widowed 72 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: mother of four trying to do her best in a 73 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: business that it doesn't appreciate women at all. She knows this. 74 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: Then we have Dora Lee Rhoades, the kind secretary who 75 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: is the constant victim of sexual harassment. Constant yeah, afeatly 76 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: so yeah anyway, And then we have Franklin m Hart, 77 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: the VP and jacks of the company slash of that 78 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: division specifically, so that's how we're gonna He is the villain, 79 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: if you needed to know, Like outside of many other villains, 80 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: he is the main villain, Like he is the stereotypical 81 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: Jack's mel white boss, balding mal white boss who has 82 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: to like you know, think he's real big. So anyway, 83 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: those are our characters. So jumping into the plot, we 84 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: are first introduced to Judy, who is starting her journey 85 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: in the working world after being out as a devoted 86 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: wife until her recent divorce. Violet has been assigned as 87 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: her trainer, who seems to train most people in the 88 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: office but never sees a promotion. We meet Franklin, who 89 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: was a dick, to put it lightly, and was even 90 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: trained by Violet herself. As Violet is training Judy, she 91 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: gives her all the office gossips and the no hows, 92 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: and even loose to the fact that many suspect that 93 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: the secretary Dora Lee, is doing the boss and getting 94 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: extra perks quote unquote. We are quickly introduced to the 95 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: fact that white men are the most likely to get 96 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 2: promoted and ahead in this business, in any business, even 97 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: to the point that Rank steals the ideas created by Violet, 98 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: and he does this often being praised for his genius 99 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: and know how. We also are quickly made aware of 100 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: Ross and she is the office tattletee and sickophant. Too 101 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: Heart even gets a woman fired for discussing the salary helloo. 102 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: As we go along, we find out that the company 103 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: is she and often mistrats all of the employees, including 104 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: the fact Violet has once again been left behind with 105 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: the current promotion, which went to another white man. Too 106 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: Heart says is better because businesses only want to talk 107 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: to white men. He says, men, but we know what 108 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: that means, and that he has also been spreading rumors 109 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: that he was sleeping with Dorley, so he's the one 110 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: telling everyone he's having an affair, who has been actively 111 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: trying to get away from his Vans's or sexual harassment 112 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: and pretty much assault to the points that she jokes 113 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: about it. She's like, I'm so used to this, which 114 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: I think that's more common than not. Unfortunately, so anywhere 115 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: after the three women decide all decided after a hard 116 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: day's work to get to go get some drinks. They 117 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: bond over the fact that they wish they could get 118 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: rid of the Heart with different detailed fantasies, including howk tying, 119 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: hunting down, or poisoning. All the while they're having the 120 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: best time being a little bit naughty. When Green nudgs 121 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: nudge that they smoke weed as they returned to work. 122 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: A misunderstanding of an accident may may have you know, 123 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: she may have almost put poisoned Heart. It's fine where 124 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: Heart ended up in the hospital and a whole hijinks ensues. 125 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: Dead bodies in a trunk, anyone police telling someone you 126 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: know they ate poisoning all those two things. Heart finds 127 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: out the accidental poisoning and how they try to play 128 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: it off, and he tries to use that against door 129 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: Lee and coercing her into having sex, which ended up 130 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: having him been hawg tied and kidnapped. It's a partially 131 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: true fantasy. The women soon discovered that Heart has been 132 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: in bezzling money from the company and decides to use 133 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: that information into lackmailing him or getting him fired. Unfortunately, 134 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: it will take up it to a month to get 135 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: all this information that they need slash evidence. So they've 136 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: come up with a plan. They're going to keep him 137 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: at his house where the ladies take over the company 138 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: and fix the problems. Heart was unwilling to do for 139 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: the company himself. Roz because she is a know it 140 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: all and with the noseat of a mall was also 141 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: sent to go learn French. As a part of the plan, 142 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: she was sent to a German linguistic school for a 143 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: possible promotion later down the road. All wise, soon it 144 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: becomes apparent that nobody actually missed Heart, and the division 145 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: soon becomes profitable with the implementations of things like job 146 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: sharing in office, daycare, rehabilitation programs, and equal pay what 147 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: And though the plan seems to be working, the wife, 148 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: who has been gone on a solo cruise, who is 149 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: a victim in this all, but she does keep her 150 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 2: eyes closed willingly believes the ridiculous but whatever, suddenly returns 151 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: home and is able to free Heart, though he doesn't 152 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: tell them right away. Instead, he goes to fix his 153 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: little crime. He's hiding everything that he's committed, and takes 154 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: all the women back to the office to gloat and 155 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: tell them that he was about to send them to 156 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: jail call the police. However, before he could do any 157 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: of that, the chairman of the company arrives to meet 158 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: with Heart and congratulate him in his success. And it's 159 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: during this time because of his great success and all 160 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: the gloating, Heart finds out he's about to be promoted 161 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: as head of the Brazilian office and transferred there as 162 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: a part of the promotion. Yay. Here the women celebrate 163 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: their success together because not only did they not go 164 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: to jail, their works have been noted and seen as 165 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 2: a good thing. Except for the whole equal pay thing. 166 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: Right, even that was too much. 167 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: That's a stretch too far. Change that back. They are 168 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: sitting together drinking their wine, toasting their success, and then 169 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: we get a little PostScript about everything turns out violent 170 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: ends up being VP. Think goodness. Judy Mary's the Xerox representative. 171 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: There's a whole like comedic moment where she's really fighting 172 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: the paper machine. And Dora Lee becomes a successful country singer, 173 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: which I'm like, they didn't have her sing it in 174 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: any of the They needed to have a moment where 175 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,119 Speaker 2: she sings in there whatever. And then Hart is kidnapped 176 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 2: by what they say is indigenous people and disappears into 177 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: the Amazons, happy, never to be seen again. Happy endings 178 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: for a whole well so any parts of foremost Because 179 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: you've never seen this movie? 180 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: Correct, No, that was my first time. 181 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: What was your thoughts? 182 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. I thought I thought I knew 183 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: what it was like. I knew that the boss got kidnapped, 184 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: like they kidnapped him, but I thought I had no 185 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: idea there was gonna be this whole middle section where 186 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: there's like car chases, a car escapes, and dead bodies. 187 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: And I kept waiting for whoever the dead body they 188 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: accidentally took they thought he had been poisoned. Yeah, And 189 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to see the like side 190 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: movie of what what's going on there? And like I 191 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: had no idea that it was going to be all 192 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: of this stuff happening in it. And then the when 193 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: they smoked weed, Yeah, I wasn't expecting that. So it 194 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: was it was fun and it was pretty wild, like 195 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: a lot of action in it. Actually, there is a 196 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: lot of action. 197 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: This is I this is that slapstick that happened in 198 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 2: the Ages that came back to, but it was a 199 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: little different. 200 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised, Like a lot of it actually 201 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: surprised me, even though I thought I knew what it 202 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: was and I did. I mean, it's really sad, but 203 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: it was kind of shocking at how much I was like, oh, yeah, 204 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: we're still talking about that today. 205 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: These novel ideas that could would that is rarely instituted anywhere. 206 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: No one talked about the whole like giving away of 207 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: food as an incentive, which I loved, but someone that 208 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: was a thing. Yeah, so this whole movie. Originally they 209 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: had thought that they were going to do it as 210 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: a drama m and then they changed their mind and like, 211 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna they needed like a spoonful 212 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,359 Speaker 2: of sugar to help them go down. Essentially, it's the ideals, 213 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: although people really didn't like that. Again, that was part 214 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: of the criticism, is like it was so over the 215 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: top that it's not believable, it's not worth watching, and 216 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't really give a good turn on society. Weinstein 217 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: made a comment about how this really impacted women and 218 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 2: we need to pay attention to movies like this and 219 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: that oh interesting. Yeah. So there was a documentary about 220 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: Still nine to five, which we came back to because 221 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: we were trying to figure out if there was a 222 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: sequel or whatever whatnot, and then turned out that there 223 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: was a documentary and which is just talking about the 224 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: fact that nothing has changed. 225 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wonder if that's I mean, it is upsetting, 226 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: but I wonder if that's one of the reasons, like 227 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: for me watching it for the first time now, Like 228 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm just so familiar with that stuff that it was 229 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of nice for it to not be a drama 230 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: to me, right, And it was kind of nice. I 231 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: loved how they had the friendship group, had their fights 232 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: and they all had like moments of before they just 233 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: seemed to break down, but they all kind of stuck 234 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: together and built each other up. Like I really appreciated that. 235 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: It was nice to It was nice to see them uniting, 236 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: and honestly, like I was surprised at how not graphic, 237 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: but how kind of openly they were talking about like 238 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: killing the boss, right and bonding over that, and I 239 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: was like. 240 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: It was tracking. 241 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, it just felt like I wasn't expecting it. 242 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: I just wasn't expecting it from a movie from that time. 243 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: The ready they were ready. I think there's so much 244 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: to be said. And I love that these women were 245 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: the ones that play these characters because it fit who 246 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: they are today, Like they kind of carried that even today. 247 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: I know Lily Tomlin, I'm sure they all are, but 248 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: Lily Tomlin and Jane fond adjusted projects together not too 249 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: long ago, Like they're still friends, they're still very close, 250 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: and this was the first movie I believe that they 251 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: were in together. And part of the reason she wanted 252 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: to do this movie was to work with Lily Tomlin, 253 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: especially in a comedic setting, because again she's an icon 254 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: and it comes to that comedy. She kind of comes 255 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: in that era of Gilda Radner, like they were comedians 256 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: to a different level. It really was the beginning when 257 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: you saw women making comedy like sitcoms and making slapstick 258 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: and being leads in it, and it was it was new, newer, 259 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: especially and Lily Tomlin was at the like the front 260 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: of that. And like I said, her and Bette Miller 261 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: and Big Business is one of my all time favorite movies. 262 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: I wonder how it holds up. It's on Disney right now, 263 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: not a sponsor. 264 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of scared, but it's it's scary to revisit someone. 265 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: That's right, right, Because I was trying to find this 266 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: movie the stream somewhere and we could I couldn't, but 267 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: like Big Business popped up and I was like, oh no, anyway, 268 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: but it definitely has a lot of like their their 269 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: backbone in it, and you can tell it, you can 270 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: tell what it is. Immediately after that was Baby Boom 271 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: came up like as a play after the fact because 272 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: it's kind of reminiscent of the working woman having the 273 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: kid and all these things. It was interesting, but it 274 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: was this era when we were telling these different type 275 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: of stories from women's perspective. Women's perspective. Of course, it's 276 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: also during this time that the women can have it all? Yeah, 277 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: should have it all comes up and it becomes kind of. 278 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Like a erk because it's you know, the eighties and 279 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: waitmen are coming into the workplace. 280 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: So speaking of which, so let's talk about some of 281 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: the things. And the first part is that whole women 282 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: in the workplace conversation. We had the part time employee 283 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: or a woman trying to be part time because she 284 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: has kids and really trying to change having to work 285 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: but being there, not being able to be for our 286 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: kids and need to be home for our kids. And 287 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: we also have the main character Violet, who has four 288 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: kids once as an adult but like she's a widower 289 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: trying to figure herself out as well as a recently 290 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: divorced woman. And that's you know, Jane Vonda's character Judy, 291 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: who's having to take care of her quote unquote take 292 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: care of herself and because her husband left her with 293 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: nothing essentially. 294 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I did think it was interesting infuriating when 295 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: Violet was the promotion was turned down because the boss 296 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: was like, well people businesses like dealing with men, and 297 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: he really needed it because he has kids, and she 298 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: was like and I don't right, right. 299 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: Right? 300 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, to see them like having these it was 301 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: interesting to have the different the dynamics of them. Because 302 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: Dolly Parton's character, Dora Lee too, she has a what 303 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: it seems to be a really loving relationship. Yeah, didn't 304 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: creep you out. 305 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: It creeps me. 306 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: Out because it's like smile for me, it's like. 307 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Right, yeah. So there were so many things to that 308 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: scene that really bothered me because you kind of see 309 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 2: Dora Ley painted as a uh, just a dormat and 310 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: so her trying to vent to her husband and her 311 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: husband's like, don't worry about a smile, let me let 312 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: me sex you up. That's all make your all better. 313 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, was that really the solution? Like 314 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: this supposed to show that she's happily married and doesn't 315 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: want anything to do with him, and it's very satisfied 316 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: with this man, or is just just showing that she is, yes, 317 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: in fact, a doormat. 318 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I think at the time it was 319 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: so she was happily married. I think looking back at it, 320 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel that had. 321 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 2: Oh it was so creepy to me. So this is 322 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 2: one of those movies I told you at the very beginning. 323 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: It is somehow relevant but irrelevant at the same time, 324 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: like both the most relevant non relevant movie, the most 325 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: relevant that can't that doesn't withstand time type of movie. 326 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: Like it really so there's so many cringe things, but 327 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: on top of that that these issues still remain. 328 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my vibe. But I mean, she was very 329 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: happy when he left, but she was more happy that 330 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: left he was out of town and so she was 331 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: more happy that she could share her house so they 332 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: could get high. 333 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: So many things. But yeah, so it was such a 334 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: weird like moment to me that like, this scene makes 335 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: me feel gross. I don't know why, but I don't 336 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: like this scene. And this is supposed to depict again 337 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: Liker being a happily married woman whatever whatnot. I do 338 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: think it's funny, like in every Poor Poor Dolly pardon, 339 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: she can't ever escape it, and she said she is 340 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: who she is and proud of herself. But the fact 341 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: that very first scene when we're interested introduced to Doorley, like, 342 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: we have Judy just staring at her breasts and shock 343 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: like just staring like poor dolly. Yeah she can't just. 344 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: Be to be fair. 345 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: We all know she's got beautiful knockers, so go ahead, ladies. 346 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: Is meant to like you do you But at the 347 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: same time let her be. But yeah, that whole balance life. Uh, 348 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: they're trying to figure it out. We also have Lily 349 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: Tommins character Violet's kind of bonding with her oldest son, 350 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: who is trying to be like, yes, you need to 351 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: do these things, you need to relax, you need to 352 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: do for you, Like he was giving her a lot 353 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 2: of good advice, like whether he knows it or not, 354 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: he was a feminist. 355 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: Ye also gave her the weed and gave her the waste. 356 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it, I'm gonna put in your pocket book. 357 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: I got you, I got you. After she fixed the 358 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: garage door herself because she don't need no man, just 359 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: someone to make sure she doesn't fall. 360 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, that was a good thing. 361 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: I liked that seed I did too, But it does 362 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: come back to help out when she has to hang up, 363 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: Oh dear heart, just in cases, just in cases. Of course. 364 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: Another thing that was very quick slip, but I want 365 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: to talk about it was that whole racism in the workplace. 366 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: You have the one person, No, there's several black characters, 367 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: but the first one you're introduced to is the mill 368 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: I guess a person from the mail room because it's 369 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: not a male man. There's not a male person. It's 370 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 2: just like they go through the office and realizing he 371 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: has been denied a promotion himself and he's been working 372 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: there for so long, and he's like in his mind, 373 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: he says like I can't even get out of the basement, 374 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: you know. And I feel like it was a very 375 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 2: like snip moment that a white woman would still be 376 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: mm hmm with no experience, Yeah, we'll still be chosen 377 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 2: over that. And so I was like, I feel like 378 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: it's like they slipped it in there, but they never 379 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: really because we do see black women being a part 380 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: of the uh employee in the office. But I feel 381 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: like that was purposely played in there, and UH, it's 382 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: good to recognize that because real, of course, sexism in 383 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: the workplace, that's obvious, right, like that's the entirety business, right, 384 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: the entirety of the plot business is not working with women, 385 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: Like don't want to talk to them, they don't think 386 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: they're like competent to do so. The whole light taking 387 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: credit for her work, pretending like he doesn't, that whole 388 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: moment where he looks at the uh her proposal she 389 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 2: sent to him about color coding something mm hmmm, and 390 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I oh, I have to look at 391 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: that because there's they needs to be fixed, and then 392 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: immediately turning around and using it to get more credit 393 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: to credibility to his name. Yeah, or that could be 394 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: just any underling versus like we know that's not necessarily 395 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: just because she's a woman, but you know that, but 396 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: who's being promoted, who was being seen, who was being noted? 397 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 2: Like everybody who was ahead were all men of the 398 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: departments as we saw. 399 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it did come back to Biden. I mean 400 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: that's what God him sent to Brazil, but he didn't 401 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: want to go because he'd been taking credit for all 402 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: their ideas, even if he didn't know it at that point. 403 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: But he couldn't back out because it done so well. 404 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: He's getting all his praise be. 405 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: Like, she should be promoted, she's the one who did this. 406 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, can't do that. 407 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: And then of course a line that kind of was 408 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: a tie line for him, her heart, the sexist, egotistical, lying, 409 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: hypocritical bigot. 410 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 411 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: It just follows him because they could repeatedly say that 412 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: to him because he. 413 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: Is he is. And I knew it watching it, and 414 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: I was waiting for it, and I was like, I wonder, 415 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: how like overt this is going to be pretty overt. 416 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: The knogging of things to make Dorley pick it up, 417 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: the cleavish shot in the mind of the scarf, the 418 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: having Violet who was not his secretary, continually doing secretarial 419 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: including going to buy a. 420 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: Scarf that he lied and said was for his wife, right, 421 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: it was actually for Dora Lee. 422 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 2: And they all assume because he spread the rumor it 423 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: was one of the parks she was getting for sleeping 424 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: with them. Of course, sexual harassment, which this one was 425 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: so intense that I was like, my god, and like, 426 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: we have to have it in I think we I 427 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: saw that I've watched this movie during one of our 428 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: reproductive rights organization put on the movie, viewing as like 429 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: a Q and a fundraiser thing that I actually went 430 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: with Caroline with and we had that moment, and I 431 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: think one of the conversation was, Yeah, just like you 432 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: said earlier, these things are so likely or real that 433 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: if it wasn't put into this extreme level of comedic scenery, 434 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 2: nobody could actually watch this. No women could actually watch this. 435 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: It would I it would be miserable. It would be 436 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: like yeah, I know, yeah yeah, and then that all the. 437 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: Time, yeah, being traumatized. Interestingly, I also was like, when 438 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: she does the her taking it out on him, I'm like, 439 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: this would never work because they would actually take that 440 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: as an advance. He would jump on that immediately. 441 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So and you're talking about Dora Lee's fantasy, right, right, 442 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: So in her fantasy, she's like, I'd reverse it essentially 443 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: and give him a taste of his own medicine. 444 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: Uh. 445 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: And I mean it's very striking because you're like, yeah, 446 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: this feels weird, like because she's a woman doing this 447 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: to man. Not that that doesn't happen, but it felt 448 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: very like, oh my god. 449 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 2: Right, and it does happen, but in this specific scenario 450 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: where he's harassing her and trying to coerce her, he 451 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: wants her to do this, right, these are the things 452 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: that he wants from her, right, So to me, I 453 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: was like, this is this is not what you think. 454 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: This is like it's not just the power it is yeah, 455 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: so all these things to me, it was like okay, 456 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: but also like I have experienced harassment, sexual harassment in 457 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: a way that came off as jokes. Yeah, so this 458 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: feels kind of like, yeah, this is the only way 459 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: we could actually like be funny. But at the same time, 460 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 2: that's what they do to hide it. So it kind 461 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: of is that double standard, like, yeah, we gotta be 462 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: careful on how we delete this. Again. They did what 463 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: they had to do and could do in nineteen eighty so, 464 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: but like forty five years ago, this was you know, 465 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: trying to I think, trying to have men watch it 466 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: and be like, you know what I mean, this is 467 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: not you because you're not this extreme, But this happens, 468 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: isn't that awful type of conversation and type of like 469 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: light handedly like women go. 470 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: Right, right, And I think the issue is a lot 471 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: of men don't and I don't know, they don't realize 472 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: that to them its normal. So it's like, yeah, I 473 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: don't see what your issue is right. 474 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: But she was able to say no, she's not like 475 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: she couldn't say exactly, and she handled it. She didn't 476 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 2: make it a big deal. She knew he was not 477 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: completely real. 478 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, which I can admit I did appreciate. I liked 479 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: how she was like, I've been upfront with you all 480 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: of this, all of this, all this, but it was 481 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of unbelievable because you're like, yeah, yeah. 482 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: This is not what happened. But the happier point of 483 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: this movie, as you were already referencing any, is that 484 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 2: this movie is about women supporting women. One thing that 485 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: I have seen about Jane Vonda she loves her girls, 486 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 2: she loves her friends, and she like vouches for our friends. 487 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: I think she was already kind of marred by a 488 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: lot of like politicians, and I guess Hollywood, especially rightly 489 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: in Hollywood at that point, because she had been protesting 490 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: the Vietnam War. People were pissing that she is anti 491 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: American because she did not like the war. She felt 492 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: like it was political dot dot dot. Even the way 493 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: she speaks about like the rights of people today, she's 494 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: never changed her stance. I honestly think the whole like 495 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 2: we've seen was a big view to the government. I've 496 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: not seen anything. I've not read anything. Maybe I've missed it. 497 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 2: So if y'all know an article where she talks about that, 498 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: I'm I almost like eighty ninety one hundred percent sure 499 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: that she did this as of you to the government 500 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: because it was their war on drugs, instead of seeing 501 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: that their war in general was what they should be 502 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: concentrating on. So it was interesting to me because she 503 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: was that person, but like I said, her lover working 504 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: with Lily Tomlin and making sure that this was in 505 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 2: the forefront, her love for her friend from Boston, like 506 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: loving what she was doing and wanting to be bigger 507 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: and wanting to have a bigger conversation. I don't know 508 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: if it truly worked like we're talking about it today. 509 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: And if you weren't a huge fan and did this research, 510 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have known that it was an organization until 511 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: after the. 512 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: Fact, you know what I mean. 513 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: I would have just thought this was a great movie. 514 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: Moving on. Yeah, So it's an interesting take. And I'm 515 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: trying to remember my family's liking of this movie or not, 516 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: because my mom's very conservative, stay at home mom. I 517 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: don't know if she actually watched it, but she loves 518 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: Dolly Pardon. My family loves some Dolly Pardon. Christmas music 519 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: is Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers. We are only vacation 520 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: growing up was to Dollywood, So I can't imagine that 521 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: they didn't know about this, but I'm sure we watched it. 522 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: I just don't have a big significant remembering, like what 523 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: their response was this to this. 524 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's going back. I imagine I have no 525 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: idea how your family responded to it. But going back 526 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: to that double edged sword of making something more palatable 527 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: so more people will watch it is I think probably 528 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: a lot of conservative people watched it, and we're sort 529 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: of like, you know, ha ha, that's the way it is, 530 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: instead of ha ha ha. We should change this, like 531 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: us is bad. 532 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm assuming it's hahaha, that's so extreme that it's not realistic, 533 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: that doesn't happen. So that, of course I made him 534 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: a super villain in order to be palatable instead of 535 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: having real life commonalities, and he gets punished in the end, 536 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: and that's how they think it works. Like oh yeah, 537 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: but if you truly are deserved to be punished, you 538 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: will be right which is not what's happening. What happens. 539 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: But yes, but back to the women supporting women, they 540 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: they definitely do one right after, like still a body, 541 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: all right, we're going to help you out. Let's put 542 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: the body back. No one knows, no one needs to know. 543 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: We got a plan. 544 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: Was not expected that, that's one. 545 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: Of the best. You poison them, Okay, let's get you 546 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: a lawyer. We're gonna get you a lawyer. Calm down, 547 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: all right. I also loved the whole shooting, like Judy 548 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: has got the gun, which, of course Dolly Parton has 549 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 2: a gun in her pocket. But I'm like, this is 550 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: real legal. Yeah, even in the eighties. 551 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I would think so. 552 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: But maybe not. Who knows. But like her shooting at him, 553 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: hog tying, and everybody's like, okay, okay, hog tying that 554 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 2: this makes sense. We know who to go to when 555 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: we're in trouble. I love that they had a plan 556 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: and we had each other's backs. 557 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: They did, and like I said, I appreciated that they 558 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: got angry at each other sometimes, right, but they were 559 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: still like, no, okay, okay, we can fix it up. 560 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: We can do this. 561 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: I will say the entire time, Dora Lee seemed to 562 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: be the most take charge yea of the people, And 563 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: I love that when they discover they're going to they're 564 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: going to change out the the fender or they're trying 565 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: to pull the fender back and they're going to get 566 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: the tool, they don't care that there's a body back there. 567 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: They're more they are shocked that this is not the 568 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: body they thought it was, but not too shocked because 569 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: they're like, ah, Judy, can you come here for a second. 570 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: That that playout was so funny to me that that 571 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: like relaxed door Y's like. 572 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: Huh, yeah, this isn't. 573 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: Still my favorite. 574 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: I also love everyone's really judgmental of Dora Ley because 575 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: they think she's having an affair with the boss and 576 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: so they don't sit with her and all this stuff. 577 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: But I kind of love how Violet was like whatever, 578 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: Like even from the beginning, she's like live and let live. 579 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, she. 580 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: Actually says, good for you do what you need to, 581 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: Like she actually just like if you have to do that, 582 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: go for it. 583 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: But I like how quickly, Yeah, they they really bonded 584 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: and came together, and it was it was really fun 585 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: to see them like some weed. 586 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: Any they'll drink some little weed apparently, and a plan 587 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: and a few. 588 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: Plans responsible substance use. 589 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, like we said, but going on another theme, 590 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: like we didn't really it's not a theme, but I 591 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: think it's it's a fun side note again, apparently Reagan's 592 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: wife watched the movie and it was doing Valentine's Day, 593 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 2: I guess, and I don't know the release dateum might 594 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: have been around that time. And apparently Reagan, Ronald Reagan 595 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: liked it except for the wheat part. Like he made 596 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: a statement about it and saying something about how it 597 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: made it more appealing for the young folks. It romanticized 598 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: it and they shouldn't have done that. It would have 599 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: been fine if it would just been alcohol, is what 600 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: he says. 601 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, really, why, yeah, had to make a statement. 602 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: Like I think he just made it, but like the 603 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: fact that he liked the movie, and like, I'm like, 604 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: and his wife really liked the movie. I'm like, your 605 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: wife is a is a RaSE of the world, just 606 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: so we know she's the ras if we needed to 607 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: talk about it, and then unfortunately, we're kind of gonna 608 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: go come back to what's happening today again, there talks 609 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: about having it be remade. I believe Jennifer Aniston's companies 610 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: looking into it about possibly making a remake. It kept 611 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: saying this year. But I don't know if that's true 612 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: or if it's just like that she'll always talk about it. 613 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: I think it needs to be an action movie at 614 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: this point. This needs to be like a Noahl's barred, 615 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: like yeah, revenge film at this moment. This is what 616 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say. So there's an article written I think 617 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,959 Speaker 2: it was in twenty twenty one, so not too recent, 618 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: but you know recent enough about the movie titled why 619 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: nine to five still resonates today, and it's by Karen Dusbaum. So, 620 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 2: and they say it took social movements in the nineteen 621 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: sixties and seventies to restore progress to women who had 622 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: lost so much ground and leaped forward. So the success 623 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 2: of nine to five in nineteen eighty captured that momentum 624 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: and promised the future of positive change, a promise that 625 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 2: as still working, nine to five will remind you still 626 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: hasn't been fulfilled. And then on top of that, unfortunately, 627 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: that movement that happened the sixties seventies that resulted into 628 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: the Equal Employment Opportunity Act has been revoked with the 629 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 2: Civil Rights Act as of this week in twenty twenty five, 630 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: today's January twenty three, twenty twenty five. I hope when 631 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: people listen back to this, that we can come back 632 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: about this being a dark moment and that has changed. 633 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: This is this is my hope, because those types of revoking, 634 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: like I can not believe this is the act he 635 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: thought would really save everything. The tales from everybody talking 636 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: about this is discriminatory, that this act was discriminatory. So 637 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: somehow the people who have the most money, the group 638 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: of people that has the most likelihood of surviving and 639 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: being successful and having homes and being able to have 640 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 2: this all that we've talked about, are suddenly being discriminated again. 641 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 2: Somehow who are statistically more have more profit. And if 642 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: you are wondering if just because you're white does not 643 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: mean this help you, especially for the women. So just 644 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: and I know our listeners they already know, they already know, 645 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: and this is You're not the people that I'm talking 646 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: to at all. Any Any immigrant, not any person of color, 647 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: who really thought this wouldn't happen has happened. It's interesting 648 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: because these movies are We're trying to be a cautionary 649 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 2: tell and then like kind of like a hopeful future 650 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: and then forty five years later we're worse than they were. 651 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: Yep. 652 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, after I was finished kind of revamping and rethinking 653 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: some of these themes, and I didn't we didn't change 654 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: anything except we're like, we're gonna have to at least 655 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: talk about where we are today. I really needed a nap. 656 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair. 657 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 2: I was like, I just need to close my eyes 658 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: when I talk about narcolepsy. I'm like, this is why 659 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: I think I have narcolepsy, because when I'm stressed like this, 660 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: my body physically shuts down. 661 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: You know, we won't go into this now, but I 662 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: was thinking about it recently and I was it's so 663 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 1: interesting to me. I'd be so much more productive if 664 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: I didn't have all of this bullsh to do with, 665 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: and your capitalism would be doing a lot better. But 666 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: instead I'm like, oh God, let me just sit. 667 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot especially as we wait to see 668 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 2: if people because we know you already know ACLU has 669 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: already gone after the administration for the immigration band taking 670 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 2: this whole birthright citizenship, which apparently they can't do at 671 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 2: this point. It's not legal. It's just yeah fluff. Yeah 672 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're not going to try. No, doesn't mean 673 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: ICE has not already been out there. And we do 674 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 2: want to come back and do an episode about what 675 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 2: to know about your rights for any immigrants. Technically I 676 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: am too, I mean I am a citizen. However it 677 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: is naturalized, so we know the how back in go. 678 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: So the fear is very real, but we will come 679 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 2: back and we do want to talk about your rights 680 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 2: and how to go forward in that. In this conversation, 681 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: please know we love you, We're thinking about you. But 682 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: on this feminist movie Friday, what I thought would be 683 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: a conversation about a good old classic with things that 684 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 2: we still need to learn. I didn't realize we would 685 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: come back with this is no longer relevant because it 686 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: is relevant, but less like I can't that fact that 687 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: we're talking about it in a way that we have 688 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 2: less rights than those people, than the people in this 689 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 2: movie is phenomenal. So this is a fantasy. This movie 690 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 2: is a fantasy. 691 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a fun one though, Yes, So if you. 692 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 2: Would like to see a fantasy, feel good movie for 693 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 2: the moment with a lot of eighties sit comic. 694 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: Oh, the technology, we didn't even talk about that. 695 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: We didn't even talk about the tap tap tap, oh, 696 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: tap tap tip and then the giant. 697 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: Phone head printer, the printer, ye. 698 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 2: The giant. We didn't even talk about. The woman who 699 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: was an. 700 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: Alcoholic at the office. 701 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: I feel you. 702 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: I loved her. I love that she's like at a girl. 703 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 2: Every single one of them, at a girl. I quit, 704 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: I'm done for the day, and we could drink at 705 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 2: a girl she said, medicinal purposes. 706 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: I do love that they were all like, I'm going 707 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: to get a drink in the middle of the day, 708 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: and everyone was like, okay. 709 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 2: Enjoy it. Kind of looks like, you know, like pre 710 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 2: people having breakdowns at offices, like understanding, do not push her, Yes, 711 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 2: let her go. 712 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: You don't need this, you you don't want this. 713 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 2: He let them go. 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