1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Ron An Aian, I understand what it is to deal 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: with broken cars. It hits me at a personal level, 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: that hits me at a professional level. And I know 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: why you asked the questions you asked. Is the rest 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: of the car okay? And that's a great question to ask. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm selling. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Yea Lagod Shine, Wait, Jodd and Vilvin, you know, the 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: car Doctor. 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: We want to take off the intake manifold and a 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 3: valve cover gap a valve. 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: Cover because it's different. 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: And take the intake manfal and the valve cover off 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 3: of the two thousand and four engines and put it 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: on the two thousand and two which is in the 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: car stuff. 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 4: Right. 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: That's a pity that should work. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian, the Car 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 5: Doctor since nineteen ninety one. This is a car owners 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 5: the world overturn to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 5: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 5: the phone and call in. 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: The garage doors are opening, but I am here to 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: take your call. At eight five five five six oh 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: ninety nine hundred and now pee running somewhere around the 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: streets of Waldwick, New Jersey, this weekend. Charlie's driving his 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: twenty ten Lincoln MKZ. You know, it's an older car, 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: it's only got one hundred and fifty one thousand miles 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: on it, and it's rolling along. Allows us to keep 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: it in real good shape. He lets us do our job. 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: And if you happen to pull up alongside next to Charlie, 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: or you're facing them from head on, you're gonna see 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: this little orange bolt peeking out from behind the grill. 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: Why more on that. The job started on Tuesday. Charlie 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: was in he has this wanted an oil change, and 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: had a tire pressure monitoring light on and some basic 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: clearcut simple stuff. And the complicated one was the air 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: conditioning doesn't work all the time. It comes on at random, 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes it'll work great for a couple of days, 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: and sometimes it just it just starts blowing hot air. 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: So I drew the ticket naturally, did the basic things first. 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: I got the oil change out of the way, I 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: fixed the tire pressure sensor, how to put a new 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: sensor in the left front tire, and I attacked the 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: air conditioning. And you know, like anything else, right, what 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: I always tell you, we're gonna do some research. Tell 47 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: me what's good. I'll tell you what's bad. I sat 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: and I did some reading. How does this particular system operate? 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: I've seen it before, but it's always good to have 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: a refresh look through bulletins. Although this is a twenty 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: ten and you know, I don't expect to find a 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: lot and I didn't. You know, nothing's changed really, it's 53 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: now thirteen going on fourteen years old. But it always 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: pays to do your research. Listen. Doing research on a 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: regular basis at least gets you consistent, because the first 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: thought in your mind is always when you approach a 57 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: broken car, I'm not going to just start changing something 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: or testing something. I'm going to go through my product 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: a step one, step two, step three, so on. I 60 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: spent about fifteen twenty minutes doing my reading, and I 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: went over to Charlie's car and started with basic system 62 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: pressure test. It seemed a little low. 63 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 6: It was. 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: It was down about six ounces of refrigerant. And that 65 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: won't keep it, you know, won't keep the compressor off. 66 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: But let's service it. Let's let's do a recovery, Let's 67 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: do a leak check. Let's make sure what are we 68 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: dealing with? Baseline the patient, right, and got that out 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: of the way, and you know, it worked even better. 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: It blew colder. It was now it would blow forty 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: five degrees on a regular basis, And it was hot 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: this week right, it was hot here in July. This 73 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: is the Northeast, and I'm sure it's hot in most 74 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: places around the country this weekend. It's July. This is normal, folks, 75 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's what we're supposed to have happen. 76 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I'd be worried if it was snowing, and you know, 77 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: I drove the car. Now. Interestingly, there are a couple 78 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: of sensors in this system and they're roll in a 79 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: great place, and I needed more information on them. So 80 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: I reached out to the boys. We're at Opus OPISIVS 81 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: OPISIVS dot com, and I say it, Yeah, they've got 82 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: a great scan tool. But it's not a scan tool 83 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: that makes them great. Their scan tool is good. Their 84 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: technical support and the ability to speak to specialists in 85 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: that particular line or area of the vehicle makes them 86 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: great because they're really selling a support system. And I 87 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: was talking to Eddie at OPUSIVS and we went through 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: censor by sensor common failures, what to look for. They 89 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: gave me the specs on every sensor and what I 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: should be seeing. And now I was armed with more information, right, 91 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: because you need information to fix a car. And I 92 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: went back and I compared my notes to Eddie's notes, 93 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and I compared both our notes together to the vehicle 94 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: and couldn't find anything wrong. Called Charlie up, Charlie, here's 95 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: where we're at, all right, I've used up my time. 96 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: I've baselined the car. The car is not misbehaving, you know, 97 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: he reiterated. Look, Ron, I know it's intermittent. He says, 98 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: I know what it intermittent means. And I said, yeah, 99 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: I know what it intermittent means too. It makes it 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: more difficult cult right, you know, when's it going to happen? 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: Whenever it feels like it. And you know, I drove 102 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: the car, bottom line, I spent three days in this 103 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: nice car. By the way, I might have to get 104 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: one of those. They're kind of neat. You could see 105 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: where Lincoln was going. Not as nice as an eighty 106 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: eight town car, which happened to be one of my 107 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: favorite vehicles way back in the day. But you know, 108 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: I spent three days behind the wheel in this car. 109 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: I got to know it, you know, intimately. I know 110 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: all the clunks and rattles that we're going to fix 111 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: after we fix the air conditioning, because I said, Charlie, 112 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: it sounds like an old man's car, like what are 113 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: we doing here? Clunks and rattles and bangs, And he says, yeah, 114 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: that's my other complaint. I said, well, let me fix 115 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: the air conditioning first, because I will fix it. And 116 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: it came down to Friday before you know, the weekend here, 117 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: and I had to give Charlie his car back and 118 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: needed it back for the weekend. And you know, I've 119 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: got no way to prove what's wrong. So I pulled 120 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: all my test equipment out and I wired in. I 121 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: went down to the AC compressor because I did see 122 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: the problem happen once. You know, it always happens when 123 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: you're not ready right. One time, when I was driving 124 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: the vehicle and I just happened to running around the 125 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: block for something, I had to go get something for 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: the shop. I forget what it was in the middle. 127 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: I think it was lunch on Thursday. I'll just take 128 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: Charlie's Lincoln. Let me drive that. See if I can 129 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: get the AC to act up. And sure enough it 130 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: started blowing warm air. And when I got out and 131 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: I looked real quick under the hood, the AC compressor 132 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: wasn't engaged, so I know it's a compressor engagement problem. 133 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: I just don't know why. Now there are a couple 134 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: of censers and switches involved. The control head seems to 135 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: be working because the blower was operating and the automatic 136 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: temp control was not involved because I had it set 137 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: to manual. I also had the temperature down as cold 138 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: as it would go, which I will do on an 139 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: automatic temp problem because I have seen automatic temp control 140 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: heads when they go out of calibration, will get confused. 141 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: You'll set it to sixty eight. It'll stop blowing cold 142 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: because it thinks it's sixty eight, but it's really seventy five, 143 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: and it's best to just run it down low, get 144 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: it as cold as you can, take it out of 145 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: its normal position. Charlie likes to run it around sixty eight, 146 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: so I always take things. I always look at atc 147 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: where the customer, where the owner is putting it, and 148 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: I'll always run it colder than it is because I 149 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: want to see it out of its comfort zone, so 150 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: to speak, compressor stopped. You could see it plain and simple. Well, 151 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: there are two switches of consequence and concern. There's the 152 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: evaporator pressure sensor evaporator temperature sensor, which is located on 153 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: the evaporator and guess where that is under the dashboard. 154 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: Guess what you have to take out to fix it 155 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: if you think it's bad. If you find it's bad, 156 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: you got to take the dashboard out. I gotta take 157 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: out the entire instrument panel to remove this sensor. Once 158 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: you get the dashboard out of the way, it's about 159 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: a twenty minute job. It's not terrible, but you got 160 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: to get the dashboard out of the vehicle. And since 161 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to take the dashboard out of a 162 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: thirteen year old vehicle that's made out of plastic quickly 163 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: or unnecessarily, I said, yeah, let's reconsider this. Maybe there's 164 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: something else to look at. There's also a high pressure 165 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: cutoff switch which is located on the evaporator inlet tube 166 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: going into the evaporator that's inside the engine compartment. It's 167 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: a four wire sensor. And to get that out, well, 168 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: you can either tear up your right arm if you're 169 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: right handed and shove it all the way in and 170 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: try and unscrew it. Or you can take the top 171 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: intake manifold off, which isn't the worst, but it's not 172 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: the best. Neither one was a great solution, So I said, 173 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: let's prove what's gonna fail. Enter the bulb. So right now, 174 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: Charlie's driving around Waldwick with a wiring harness I attached 175 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: to the ac compressor inlet and I ratted the wire 176 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: up in front of the radiator across the top of 177 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: the shroud support and I zip tied it. Thank God 178 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: for zip Tize. I don't think I could fix cars 179 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: some days without Ziptize. And I've got that bulb zip 180 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: tide in a socket A one ninety four. But I 181 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: put a neon bulb right so that it wouldn't blind 182 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: somebody if they're driving at night. If Charlie's out driving 183 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: at night, and I showed him, I said, Charlie, the 184 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: next time this happens. And I think this is a 185 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: big thing. I think as a mechanic, you're obligated to 186 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: explain to people, here's what we're doing and why all right, 187 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, bedside manner guys, it comes into play I 188 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: took Charlie out front. I started the car up, I 189 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: turned the AC on. We watched the bulb came on orange. 190 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: I turned the AC off, the bulb went out. I said, Charlie, 191 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: the next time this happens, I want to know. I 192 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: left them inside the car thermometer. I said, where's duck temperature? 193 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: If duck temperature is forty five degrees and the lights lit, 194 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: we're good. If all of a sudden you see duck 195 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: temperature of seventy or seventy five degrees and the bulb 196 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: is not lit, all right, that tells me that something 197 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: before the bulb has turned the compressor circuit off. Because, 198 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: for example, if the evap temp sensor senses it's too 199 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: cold on a continuous basis, thirty five degrees is the cutoff. 200 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: As Eddie from Opus IVS gave me the speck. Because 201 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: they have that kind of information, they're very exact and 202 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: a specific in what they can offer. If it stays 203 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: at a consistent thirty five degrees or less, thinking that 204 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: it is even though it's not, it could be a 205 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: bad sensor, then you know it's going to turn off 206 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: the circuit to the compressor and kill the circuit. But 207 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: if the bulb is lit and you've got high duct 208 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: temperature seventy five degrees, you got a bad compressor. You've 209 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: got a bad field coil on the compressor, which is 210 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: kind of where I'm leaning. So if you're cruising around 211 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: this weekend in North Jersey you come up on a 212 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: silver MKZ, his car's not trying to do an impression 213 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: of Rudolph with a gold nose. He's trying to do 214 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: an impression of the car doctor diagnosed in a vehicle 215 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: without being there. I'm going to have to call Charlie 216 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: on Monday and see if his bulb stayed lit all weekend. 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We'll call 234 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: you back and put you in the next live queue 235 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: of this radio show as we try to help you 236 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: fix all the broken cars that we encounter. So I'm 237 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: ronning any of the Car Doctor. I'll be back right 238 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away. He drives that way. But 239 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has car advice 240 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: done right. Eight five to five five six zero nine 241 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, Let's get over to 242 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: Thomas and Delaware five Dakota and see what's going on here. Thomas, 243 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor. Sir, How can I. 244 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 6: Help good mine? Ron? How are you? 245 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm good? What's going on? 246 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 6: Have a question for you? I have a two thousand 247 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 6: and five Dodge Dakota with a three point seven engine 248 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 6: in it. Okay, it would have one hundred and twenty 249 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 6: thousand miles on it. It was running fine. 250 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 7: I come home. 251 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 6: One day, cut it off. Had set for about maybe 252 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 6: a month. I goes back out, started up. It was 253 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 6: going somewhere, and as you mashed down on it, she 254 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 6: just started surgeing, like when you mashed down on your 255 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 6: celebrator to give it gas. She'd just go woom woom, woom, 256 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 6: woom woom, And that's that's all she should do. 257 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: So you're saying it, does the vehicle actually move, Thomas, 258 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: or it just since there? 259 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 6: We even we I thought maybe it was something clogging 260 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 6: somewhere or something. So a friend of mine, man, he 261 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 6: came and me and him was checking it out and 262 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 6: we said, well, you know what we'll do, said, we're 263 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 6: driving around the around the road. So we drove it 264 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 6: around the block and if you run at a real 265 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 6: slow idol, she runs along right fine. As soon as 266 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 6: you mash down on her, she would just go. 267 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 2: Woom woom, woom, woom woom. 268 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 6: Start a surgeon. 269 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: How how long did it sit when? Uh, between the 270 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: time it ran good in the last time and now 271 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: about a month? 272 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 6: Okay, I tell you what it did. I changed the 273 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 6: throttle censor on. I thought it was a throttle censor 274 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 6: I changed that and put a brand new and them 275 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 6: on them on that Still the same thing. 276 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: You're on a scan tool, Yes, on. 277 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 6: A scan tool. When I had a friend of mine 278 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 6: come and put a scan tool on that, and it 279 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 6: said bank one. Okay, so I tell. 280 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: You what it does, bank one? What I said, bank one? 281 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: What what did they say? Bank one? Bank one? Lean? 282 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 6: Yeah? It said something about about I guess it was 283 00:13:54,080 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 6: the coil. Uh? What your name wasn't foreign? So I 284 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 6: get to put a whole brand you set of callbacks 285 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 6: on that. 286 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Okay? Are you just are you telling me? It talked 287 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: about a misfire on. 288 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 6: Bank one, That's what he was talking about, all right? 289 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: All right? And you put a quick you put. 290 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 6: New plugs in it, put brand new call packs on. 291 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: It, and it did nothing. It still does it did 292 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: nothing doing? All right. Here's what I want you to do. 293 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: Listen to me. All right, there's two measurements. I want 294 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: to know. This is a three point seven liter engine, correct? Yeah, right, 295 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: hook up your scan tool or your buddy scan tool. 296 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: Is he do you know? Is he going in looking 297 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: at OBD two? Is he looking at your make model? 298 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: Is he looking at Chrysler specific information? 299 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 6: Going in looking at UB two. 300 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: Okay, OBD two. OBD two, right, So, and I like that, 301 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: you know what I do a lot of my diagnostics 302 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: OBD two. I don't care for your make model until 303 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: I get into something very very specific. I want you 304 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: to go look at two. I want you to go 305 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: look at two pits parameter parameters of data, all right. 306 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: I want to know what mass. I want to know 307 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: what the mass airflow sensor is reading at idle. All right. 308 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: This is a three point seven leader at idle. And 309 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: this is a trick that works on just about every 310 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: vehicle on the road today except something that's supercharged or turbocharged, 311 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: although at idle it won't matter. But if this is 312 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: a three point seven, we should three. We should see 313 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: somewhere between three and four grams of airflow across the 314 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: sensor at idle. Okay, I want to know that that's 315 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: what's there, all right. If I see two point nine, 316 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: if I see I'm still gonna be curious, because now 317 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm to the low side. If I see four point one, 318 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be curious. But we should be in that 319 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: because a typical engine will flow air across the mass 320 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: airflow based on its leaders or it's it's it's physical 321 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: dimension insight. How much air can it draw through? So 322 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: in theory, if this was perfect, you'll see three point 323 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: seven leaders of air airflow across the mass airflow and 324 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: Graham's per second at idle. That's that's number one. Number two, 325 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: I want to know what fuel trim is, all right, 326 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: very very simple thing. You're gonna be able to look 327 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: it up OBD two on the scan tool. Also Bank one, 328 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: Bank two. I want to I want to know a 329 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: short term and long term I would reasonably expect older vehicle, 330 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: depending if it's had a lot of if it's had 331 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: a lot of maintenance, or any maintenance or proper fuel 332 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: system cleaning. 333 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 6: Since I've had it, sent time i've had it, Ron, 334 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 6: this is the first problem. Now I've had this vehicle 335 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 6: eleven years. 336 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, what I was going to say was, you know, 337 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: I would expect to see short term fuel trim in 338 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: the five to ten percent range, sitting at idle. Long 339 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: term fuel trim, long term fuel trim somewhere between zero 340 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: and five. I'm looking for an extreme. I'm looking for 341 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: you to come back and tell me, hey, Ron, Bank 342 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: one's at twenty two percent. All right, Bank two is 343 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: at twenty percent, which tells me I've got a vacuum, 344 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: which tells me I've got a vacuum leak somewhere. All right, now, 345 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: now I'm most well, and I'm also gonna I'm also 346 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: going to figure that out by looking at mass airflow 347 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: grams per second. If my mass airflow grams per second 348 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: is wrong, that tells me there's an air leak after 349 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: the sensor that's unaccounted for and it's skewing the mass airflow. 350 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: Last thing, and then I'm gonna let you go. All right, 351 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: take the mask, take the mass airflow sensor off, look 352 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: inside of it. This vehicle sat ron Yeah. 353 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 6: Quick question for you. Or the mass airflow center on 354 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 6: that Dodge pickup. 355 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: It should be in the intake duct. 356 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 6: And the intake duck. 357 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: Right, okay, because right because this sat for this sat 358 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: for a month, I'm wondering if a spider or a 359 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: small animal or something crawled up inside that sensor and 360 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: he died, built a web, made some kind of a restriction, 361 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: and it's skewing the sensor. That's why it's so important 362 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: to go and look at that. You got your homework 363 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: for you cut out for you Thomas, go do those things. 364 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: Call me back. You know where to find me, because 365 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: I'll be here at eight five five five six zero 366 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. It's what I do. I'm running 367 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 368 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: Welcome back, running in the car doctor. 369 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 6: Here. 370 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Let me just back up too real quick for Thomas 371 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: if he's still listening, depending upon production date, that may 372 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: not have a mass air. That may also that may 373 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: instead have a map sensor at the back of the 374 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: intake manifold five the code of So just be aware, 375 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: disregard the mass airflow info. I gave you. The fuelturep 376 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: info applies. The rest of it all applies. I just 377 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: it may or may not have a mass air. But 378 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: that's where my mind is going because of the fact 379 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: that that car sat for a month. So when you know, Thomas, 380 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: give us a call back. Let's go over to Dave 381 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: and I guess that's is that main or mass wherever 382 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: you are, Dave, Yeah, it doesn't matter to me. 383 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: Astute. 384 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: Yes, sir twenty one rav, What can I do for you? 385 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 8: Okay? So I have no check engine or warning weights 386 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 8: at all on the mean dashboard, right, and it told 387 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 8: me I was due for service, means an oil chains 388 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 8: coming up and out of curiousity when they have like 389 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 8: an enhanced information field, And to my surprise there were 390 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 8: two serious, duplicate check engine fault messages which I normally 391 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 8: never would have noticed where built in. And I talked 392 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 8: to the dealer about. 393 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: It built into the dashboard. 394 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, it goes through the you know, the infotainment system. Right, 395 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 8: suppose if you can get enhanced information about your car, 396 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 8: car's messages. 397 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: And when you talk to the dealer, what did they say? 398 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 6: Uh? 399 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 8: They said, just go to any toileted dealer and they'll 400 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 8: clear out all the messages. 401 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: Okay, But could. 402 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 8: I read you the message real quick? 403 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 6: Yeah? 404 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Sure. 405 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 8: So it says check engine exclamation point a malfunction and 406 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 8: the electronic control engine prodle or howeveract transmission is being detected. 407 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 8: Contact your dealer immediately and have it inspected. 408 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: Okay, So I would tell you that's what you should do. Okay, 409 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: you know now I'm just well, that's that's yeah, that's 410 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: the interesting part. Right. It should display something on the dashboard, 411 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: all right, right, so you know, are we going to 412 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: find that this is? And I wouldn't I wouldn't delete 413 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: that right away until a dealer looked at it, because 414 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: are we going to find that you're the victim of 415 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: a software update or a bulletin or something that's going 416 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: to change the way that vehicle picks up in detects 417 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: its faults. You know, listen, the constraints of the law 418 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: on which OBD two is built are specific if the 419 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: vehicle has a flaw in it, and you know, if 420 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: it has a defect and emissions are going to exceed, 421 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: or say it like this, If the vehicle has a 422 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: defect in it that affects the operating emission controls, which 423 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: is related to just about everything in the vehicle under 424 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: the hood today, then the check engine light comes on. 425 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: If it's detecting a fault in the throttle body or 426 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: the transmission operation, that will clearly affect never mind your safety, 427 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: which is I don't want to downplay that, but it 428 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: will you know, obviously affect emissions. That will turn on 429 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: the check engine light provided the vehicle is programmed correctly. Right, 430 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: there's you know, look look at how many times Microsoft 431 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: changes things on us. Oh yeah, we found out this 432 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: doesn't work right, here's the patch, right, so I would 433 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: by all means, get that into the dealer and look 434 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: for a reason explanation. I wouldn't be satisfied if they 435 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: just wave that off and tell you to disregard it. 436 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: Because there's a reason why that's there. I don't have 437 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: a better answer for you than that, but I would 438 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: start to look through bulletins and general service campaigns. There's 439 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: going to be some kind of a notice there for that, 440 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: because that shouldn't be there if that's a valid If 441 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: that's a valid concern of the vehicle, if the vehicle 442 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: is having an actual problem, check engine light should be lit. 443 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: If the check engine light's not lit, and they're telling 444 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: you that's a valid concern, why isn't the check engine 445 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: light lit? Because that is an emissions failure. Something's wrong 446 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: in the programming there. If I'm understanding you correctly. 447 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 8: Yep, Okay, I agree, So thank you very much. 448 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You'll give us a call back, Dave, 449 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: let us know what they say. 450 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 9: I will. 451 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious. I'm sure everybody else is too, because 452 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: that's a first. So the cars are supposed to be 453 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: better than that, all right, kiddo, let us know. Okay, 454 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: thank you, You're welcome. Bye bye. Let's go over to 455 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: George and Maryland eleven Dodge Challenger. George, Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, 456 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: how can I help? Good sir? What's going on? 457 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 9: The driver's side headlight is out? Okay, you've replaced the 458 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 9: bulb let it's still out. Is there something else there 459 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 9: to look at? 460 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 6: Well? 461 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: I would scan it for a code, because if it 462 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: detected a short in the original bulb, the driver in 463 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: the body computer will shut down and not allow the 464 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: headlight to light. How do you like that? Now there's 465 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: an answer you weren't expecting, right, the computers telling you 466 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: the computer is expecting your bulb did not light up anymore, 467 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, all in the interest of protecting it. Listen, 468 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: nothing is simple anymore. I've got to tell you. I 469 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: can't tell you well listen. I don't know if you 470 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: heard the open I was talking about Charlie's twenty ten 471 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: link and the AC was intermittent even though the AC 472 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: was working. One of the things I did, I did 473 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: a complete scan of the vehicle. I wanted to look 474 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: at all the modules. All I was looking for fault codes. 475 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: I didn't expect to find any check engine light faults, 476 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: which I did not, but I was looking for something 477 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: in the body computer. I'm looking to see service history. 478 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 6: You know. 479 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: Scanning a vehicle for codes now to me is like 480 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: going to the emergency room and saying, hey, two days ago, 481 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: I felt lightheaded and dizzy, and what do they do. 482 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: They check? They check you ford, did you have a stroke? Right? 483 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: They're looking at your history. Same thing with a car. 484 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 9: So it's a computer code is expecting a burnt bulb? 485 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 6: Is that right? 486 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: Right? 487 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: If it's got, If it's got, it's possible. It could 488 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: be that, you know, there's a computer fault, code preventing 489 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: because they want to protect the computer. They don't want 490 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: the driver to stay on trying to drive a short bulb, 491 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: increase current flow, increase in average flow and damage the BCM. 492 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean, listen. It could also just be a broken wire, 493 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: a bad contact. There's ten other things that could be. 494 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, from my seat here for my money, 495 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: I would I would. I'd love to scan cars for codes. 496 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: You'd be amazed what you find. You know, it's there's 497 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: a reason a doctor checks your heart rate and blood 498 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: pressure every time you walk into their office before they 499 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: treat you for whatever it is. That your your your ailment? 500 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Is it that day? Because you know, the last thing 501 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: in the world I want to do is send somebody 502 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: out the door and say, hey, I fixed your bulb 503 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: and two blocks down the road to check engine light, 504 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: pops on, what did you do to my car? I 505 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: want to know what point of failure? You know what 506 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying? So all right, George, I guess George is 507 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: George is gone? Where George go? Huh? How'd that happen? 508 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: George is still there? 509 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 9: Still here? 510 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: Still there? Did you catch the end of that? With 511 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: regards to yeah, scan it and you know, I mean, listen, 512 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: if you want to make sure that that new bulb 513 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: you plugged in is good, just for giggles, plug it 514 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: in on the other side. 515 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 9: Right, That's so I thought we plugging it on the 516 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 9: other side of Steef. The bulb works, if the. 517 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: Bull If the bulb works, then you know the other thing. 518 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: Then what you could do is take a vault meter 519 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: and check your wiring at the connector for the bulb 520 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: that doesn't work, you should at least have power and 521 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: probably won't have ground, okay. And if you have power, 522 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: and if you have power and no ground, or he 523 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: may have ground and no power. It depends on how 524 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: they've got it wired. I don't remember off the top 525 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: of my head, but then I would Then I would 526 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: go and I would look at a wiring diagram, wiring 527 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: diagrams of the roadmap, and I would then consider if 528 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: everything looks kosher up to that point, I would go 529 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: and scan it for codes, and I bet you're gonna 530 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: find something in the BCM or somewhere somewhere in one 531 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: of the body modules. 532 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 9: Okay, it sounds like a lot to do with. Thank 533 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 9: you very much for your time. 534 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. You'd be well, Hi, thank you, 535 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: you're welcome. Yeah, there's nothing simple anymore. We had a 536 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: guy called the shop yesterday. Hey, can I come by 537 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: and have you throw a battery in my Audi? I 538 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: could throw it in the trunk. I don't think I 539 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: could actually install it, because you don't just throw batteries 540 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: in cars anymore. It's it's not as simple as that. 541 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: Everybody makes it out like it's so simple, and it's not. 542 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: He didn't want to hear that answer. But everything is 543 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: complicated today. It's not complicated, it's procedural, it's involved. There 544 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: are no simple tasks as the vehicles get newer because 545 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: of the implications of technology. But you know this is 546 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: where we are. You can continue to do it wrong, 547 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: but you know that's not going to get you anywhere, 548 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: and that's not what this is about. So hey, five 549 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero, I'll be 550 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: back right after this. I'm ronning any and the car doctor. 551 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: Don't go away. No running in the car doctor. Here, 552 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Let's go to Brian in Pennsylvania. Brian, what's going on 553 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: with your own nine ref. 554 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 7: It's my son's car, one hundred and twenty eight thousand 555 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 7: miles just broken it. No no blower at all? Okay, 556 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 7: him and his uncle changed the whole module out in 557 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 7: the dash nothing else. Check diffuses. How did another guy 558 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 7: put it on a scanner and he tried to communicate 559 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 7: with the HVAC system? Any no communication and all there? 560 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: Okay? Is this is this manual heat or automatic heat? 561 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 6: Wow? Manual manual? 562 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: Okay. So it's it's a two wire blower motor, right, 563 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: So have we checked it's just power and ground at 564 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: the blower motor? Have we checked for either one of those? 565 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 7: I didn't. I don't really am familiar with that that 566 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 7: point of it. But nobody seems to know what's wrong 567 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 7: with this. 568 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: All right, No, I understand, so so listen. Yeah, let's yeah, listen. 569 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: That's that's why I'm here. Brother. Let's let's make it simple. Okay. 570 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: If you walked into the living room tonight, you turn 571 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: the light switch on and the light doesn't light up, 572 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: what are you going to do? Well, check the wires, right, 573 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: check the wires, check the fuse. Same thing. It's it's 574 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: same thing with the car. My first thought here is 575 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: you know this because this is manual AC heat. This 576 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: is a really simple system, all right. And we can 577 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: talk about the switches in the controls. We can get 578 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: that deep into it if you want. But the first 579 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: thing I would do is go to the blower motor itself, 580 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: unplug it, and put a vault meter across it, positive 581 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: and positive in ground power and ground turn the blower on. 582 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: Does the meter light up? If the meter? If the 583 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: meter works and it's showing voltage, And because you know 584 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: you'll be going through the resistor, you'll see it vary 585 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: from six volts up to twelve or whatever standing battery 586 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: voltage is. Guess what the circuit's tested. It's good. I mean, 587 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: we could get fancy if somebody's got an old school 588 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: round headlight. An old school round headlight pulls about seven amps. 589 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: That works great for testing blower motors because you can 590 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: actually light the blower the light up from dim to 591 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: bright and it shows the circuits good. And then you 592 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: just got a bad blower motor. You know, I wouldn't. 593 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't get deeper than that until I do that. 594 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: That's my first step, by nature. I want, I want 595 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: to do the simple stuff first. Yeah, you know, so 596 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: let's let's start there. So talk to your son and 597 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: the uncle that did it. Ask them, did they check 598 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: to make sure they've got power and ground at the 599 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: blower motor? All right? 600 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 7: And if I'm pretty sure that he did that, I 601 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 7: can't say for sure, right because that's just it's right there. 602 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 7: You know, that's one of the things. 603 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: He could have checked, and you know you would have 604 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: And it depends, you know sometimes and I always go 605 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: back to basics because in all my years of trying 606 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: to guide people and help, you know, and all I'm 607 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: trying to do is help is you know, every once 608 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: in a while they'll go to the parks store and 609 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: they want to get this part and then they stand 610 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: talking to a guy at the counter who convinces them, no, 611 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: this is what you really need. But they never did 612 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: any testing in the intern you know. So that's my 613 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: first step. All right, If if if I don't have 614 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: power and ground at the blower motor, call me back 615 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about how we're going to back trace 616 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: that they've got problems with the Integration Control Module assembly, 617 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: which is the main controller for the blower resists which 618 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: feeds the blower. But before I go that deep into it, 619 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: I just want to know simple. So can you call 620 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: me back next week? 621 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 6: Yeah? 622 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 7: I think that's what they replaced there what I would 623 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 7: call in the module. 624 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so in that case, right, and so so then 625 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: if that's the case, right, well, and if that's the case, 626 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: then I'm back to my original comment. Do they have power? 627 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Do they have power and ground at the blower motor connector? 628 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: And if they if they don't and it's not getting 629 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: into the integration control module, then I'm going to go 630 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: back and look at all the fuses for the circuit 631 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: because what's not turning the integration control module on? Right, 632 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: And we'll start the war from there. You call me back, 633 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: You let me know. All right, Brian, You're very welcome. 634 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Thank you. Be well. I'm running ending 635 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 636 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: Look back, running the card doctor. Let's go over to Steven, 637 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: Delaware thirteen Kia Sorrento. Steve, how can I help? 638 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 4: Yes, I have a real problem with my car. Run straight. Uh, 639 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 4: you know, I don't have any issues with that. There's 640 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 4: no check engine lights or any kind of warning lights 641 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 4: coming up on the dashboard. But but but at every 642 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 4: thousand miles, I got at a quarter oil. 643 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: I bet you do. 644 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, com I'm sorry. 645 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: Ahead, common common problem. How many miles are on it? 646 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: One hundred thousand? 647 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: You just passed one hundred thousand. 648 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it started. It started at about ninety, isn't it? 649 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: Yes, actually it did. 650 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, guess what you got to get your hands on? 651 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: Kia service Recall Campaign number one forty seven. It's going 652 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: to talk about how when they assemble that engine. This 653 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: is the four cylinder, right, the two point four leader. Yeah, 654 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: look at me, I'm the psychic card doctor today. All right, 655 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: they're going to talk about that recall campaign is going 656 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: to talk about how internal manufacturing problems back when they 657 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: assembled the engine have affected the longevity of it, and 658 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: you've got a problem with the rings. The engine itself 659 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: has an internal problem and it is in need of replacement. 660 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: In all likelihood. Here's the good news. They've extended the 661 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: warranty on that. I don't know if you're still in it, 662 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: you're probably close. I think it's ten years, one hundred 663 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand miles, so you're right on the fuzzy edge. 664 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: I think. So I would get it into Kiya asap. 665 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: And you know they're going to know about this, trust me. 666 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: You know you're going to talk to the dealer. The 667 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: dealer is going to tell you they're overwhelmed with engine 668 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: work right now. If it's anything like it is here 669 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: in New Jersey. I know the Kia Hundai dealers because 670 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: Hundai has this problem also, the Kia Hundai dealers here 671 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: are somewhere between two and four months backed up. I 672 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: know one Hundaid dealer that had I think he said, 673 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: fourteen engines out at one time, all in the process 674 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: of being done. It's just just a lot of engine 675 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: work right now. But that's likely what's going on here. 676 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: You know, you can you can go through the steps 677 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: of diagnosing it. That's probably what's going to happen. One 678 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: last critical question, or you the original owner? 679 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: No, I am not. 680 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if that affects atter. 681 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 4: I did take the car to the key of dealership, right, 682 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 4: it was going to they put some kind of additive 683 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 4: in in the oil, and they wanted me to drive 684 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 4: a thousand miles and then come back and have him 685 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 4: check it right, And I did that. When I came back, 686 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 4: he told me because I wasn't the original owner, that 687 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: they couldn't warrant you. 688 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 9: Yeah. 689 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: I just thought of that, you know, and that just 690 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of frosts me. Listen, if you make it wrong, 691 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: you make it wrong, right. And I think at that 692 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: point Keia is looking for a way out so that 693 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: they don't have to bite the bullet and pay for 694 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: all of these said. But that's the case, you know what, 695 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: It's a defect in the way the vehicle was made. 696 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you got to go through that, Steve. You know, 697 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: you could argue your case ta Kia Corporate, but I 698 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: think that's going to be the answer that you get. 699 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: You could try raising your voice and see what happens. 700 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: And I wish you well I'm Ronning Ay and the 701 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: car Doctor. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.