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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 3: Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks.

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Speaker 2: Off right now. Thanks for being here with us.

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Speaker 3: A couple of big stories right off the top, we're

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Speaker 3: going to spend some time on today. One the pullback

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Speaker 3: from the operation in Minneapolis, the enhanced ice deployment there.

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Speaker 3: We have some soundbites from Tom Homan. We have updates

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Speaker 3: from the administration on this one, but they are claiming

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Speaker 3: the mission has been completed and therefore this is on schedule.

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Speaker 3: Is that the way this will play More broadly, we

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Speaker 3: will discuss also a horrific shooting by a transgender man

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Speaker 3: claiming to be a woman at a secondary school outside

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Speaker 3: of Vancouver in Canada, and the Canadian media particular, though

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Speaker 3: not only Canadian media, are pretending it was a woman.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about this.

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Speaker 3: There is a mass hysteria, a mass delusion around this

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Speaker 3: transgender issue, and we are not going to back down

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Speaker 3: one inch from the truth. It's very important, so we

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Speaker 3: will get into that. Talk a bit about Minnesota. Also,

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Speaker 3: some excellent guests today. We have Secretary of Education Lenna

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Speaker 3: McMahon with us in the next hour. We will talk

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Speaker 3: to her about a new prize for what has to

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Speaker 3: do with the American Founding, has to do with two

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty years of America, which we're celebrating the summer,

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Speaker 3: which is very exciting. And we also have our friend

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Speaker 3: of his time with us, and I'm sure we'll have

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Speaker 3: pithy commentary on America's political and cultural scene, as well

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Speaker 3: as Klay Travis's mustache, which is now turning into kind

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Speaker 3: of a gruffbeard slash mustache situation. You're going sort of

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Speaker 3: like for the Sam Elliott after a couple of weeks

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Speaker 3: out on the trail.

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Speaker 2: Look now, is that.

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Speaker 1: Where we don't really know? I'm kind of in a

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Speaker 1: tough spot with the mustache. You know, if I go

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Speaker 1: clean shaven, then the mustache is completely a commitment here

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Speaker 1: at this I wouldn't I wouldn't know who you were

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Speaker 1: like if you showed up clean shaven, if that mustache

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Speaker 1: and the beard were gone, I would think you were

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Speaker 1: an imposter and I wouldn't know what to do. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it's the most trusted mustache

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Speaker 1: in news. Now. I'm not even sure who my competition

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Speaker 1: would be. Heraldo maybe back in the day, but I

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Speaker 1: think Heraldo retired, so I don't know. I feel an

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Speaker 3: I think, similar to Churchill played by Gary Oldman in

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Speaker 3: Darkest Hour, you should let the people weigh in on this,

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Speaker 3: and you should just take it to a pole and

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Speaker 3: just see what the Clay Travis people of America, because

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Speaker 3: I think team mustache will win. I think if you

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Speaker 3: put it to a fair democratic process, you become a

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is a lot of twenty year

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Speaker 1: old guys have mustaches. I was watching the US men's

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Speaker 1: hockey team as they were playing and getting ready for

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Speaker 1: their games and everything else. Almost everybody on the team

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Speaker 1: has a mustache. Now, so my fifteen year old was like,

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Speaker 1: that's a good you know, Stash. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: I noticed it out at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: So we will see. We shall see. All right, Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about this.

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Speaker 3: The White House is saying that this is essentially mission

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Speaker 4: Play one I have proposed and President Trump has concurred

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Speaker 4: that this surge operation conclude. A significant drawldown has already

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Speaker 4: been underway this week and we'll continue to the next week.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot of work to do across this

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Speaker 2: Play.

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Speaker 3: I worry that even if this is true, meaning that

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Speaker 3: Looked very briefly at a map, and when I said,

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Speaker 3: outside of Vancouver where the shooting was, was sorry, it's seven

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Speaker 1: I saw the map too, and I thought it was

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Speaker 3: I don't know Canada very well. All right, back to Minneapolis,

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Speaker 3: Tom Holman, He says, Clay, how does this play? Because

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Speaker 3: the worry is that the maniacs, the purple haired, shrieking

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Speaker 2: Now let's go on to round two.

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Speaker 1: I think that's one hundred percent of valid concern. Now

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Speaker 1: Here is what I would say. In general, it seems

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Speaker 1: as if Minneapolis and Minnesota both back down in terms

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Speaker 1: people who are violating the law, that essentially they are

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Speaker 1: now notifying ICE and allowing ICE to take possession take

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Speaker 1: and Minnesota area prisons. That's what I saw Keith Ellison,

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Speaker 1: I think both sides said this is not beneficial. Tom

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Speaker 1: Holman went to Minneapolis, had a good conversation. He said,

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Speaker 1: we will draw back the number of ICE agents on

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Speaker 1: handshake agreement on this, and that is really what has

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Speaker 1: What you and I said, and this would be my

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Speaker 1: And we'll see whether that ends up being the case

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Speaker 2: Walls's political career is over.

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Speaker 1: We have a governor's race and a Senate race that

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Speaker 1: this all plays out in about ten months. That will

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Speaker 1: So that, to me will be the question going forward.

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Speaker 2: We shall see.

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Speaker 3: Certainly would be great to start to turn the political

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Speaker 3: So it would not have been on the top five

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Speaker 3: Apparently everyone who lives there knows oh no in city

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Speaker 1: I think it's actually a scary take because again, like

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Speaker 1: Ice is the modern day SS that their Nazis probably

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Speaker 1: ties in quite well with your book, But Manufacturing Delusion,

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, that.

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Speaker 1: But the degree to which Democrats are able to mobilize

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Speaker 1: because you know, you had a guy in this Alex

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Speaker 1: about Alex Pretty now. But how did a guy like

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Speaker 1: Alex pretty get radicalized to such an extent? I was

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Speaker 1: reading they had a story in the New York Times

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Speaker 1: to media in the last day or so. How did

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Speaker 1: this guy go from They said he grew up in

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Speaker 2: No normal family of four.

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Speaker 1: And he just completely lost his mind and decided that

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it at all. It's downright scary. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that. We'll take some of your calls. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people met Matt at Buck over the marijuana discussion,

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Speaker 1: and you know, again, continue to direct all your vitrioli

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Speaker 1: Bucks direction, But in all seriousness, we got a bunch

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Speaker 1: and we'll open up phone lines. Also, Linda McMahon, the

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Speaker 2: What is this intro music? I'm sorry, Joe, what is this? Guys?

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Speaker 1: I'm fifty six and I've never seen a better halftime

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Speaker 3: If you said a naughty word fifteen years ago, you know,

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Speaker 3: Maybe Scarborough is going to hang up his zip sweater

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Speaker 3: If I were if I were the like shameless pr

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Speaker 2: Nothing but upside, nothing but upside.

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Speaker 3: You get to get all this platform, you get all

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Speaker 5: Play six new NBC newpolls find a majority of Americans

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Speaker 2: There are way more people who have.

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Speaker 1: Been arrested for violent crimes that should not have ever

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Speaker 1: been in this country. There is an agreement that now

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Speaker 1: inside of Minnesota jails and prisons, they will allow ICE

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Speaker 1: to take over the these individuals who are arrested. Which,

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Speaker 1: let me pause here for a moment, how has that

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Speaker 1: ever been allowed to not occur? That is the Democrat

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Speaker 1: orthodoxy in all these so called sanctuary cities. It is

447
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Speaker 1: that when they arrest people engaging in violent behavior, that

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Speaker 1: they will then release them back out onto the streets,

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Speaker 1: rather than notify ICE so that ICE could begin the

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Speaker 1: process of deportation. That is Democrat orthodoxy. Think about that

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Speaker 1: for a minute. Someone is arrested for committing a crime,

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Speaker 1: and rather than notify ICE, Hey, we have an illegal

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Speaker 1: alien here who should not be in the country. You

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Speaker 1: should take possession of them. They have clearly violated their

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Speaker 1: rights to stay in this country. They release them back

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Speaker 1: out onto the streets. That's how Lake and Riley ended

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Speaker 1: up being dead. I don't think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have followed that thread. She is dead because New York

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Speaker 1: arrested an illegal immigrant. I think multiple times Buck put

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Speaker 1: him back out onto the streets. He then made his

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Speaker 1: way down to the Athens, Georgia, area and murdered Lake

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Speaker 1: and Riley. And this has happened all over the country.

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Speaker 1: So if it is true that Minnesota has now said

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Speaker 1: we will let you know when we have illegals in

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Speaker 1: our possession who have committed crimes, this is actually a

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Speaker 1: big win, and it won't be acknowledged as such. But

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Speaker 1: I do think that that is a significant alteration in policy.

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Speaker 3: Imagine that you are the NYPD officer who arrested the

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Speaker 3: murderer of Lake and Riley in New York before, of

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Speaker 3: course the Lake and Riley rape.

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Speaker 2: And murder happened.

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Speaker 3: Imagine you're that cop and you you know, I forget

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Speaker 3: what the guy was arrested for, but you know this

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Speaker 3: guy's committed a real crime, and you take him in

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Speaker 3: and doing everything, and you know this is a bad guy,

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Speaker 3: and you know that it's a violation of federal loalities

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Speaker 3: in the country. This guy's in illegal But if you

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Speaker 3: call ice, if you speak to your law enforce and counterparts,

479
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Speaker 3: say hey, we've got this guy, you're gonna get reprimanded

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Speaker 3: on it. You might get suspended. I don't even know how.

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Speaker 3: You're definitely going to get in trouble with your superiors.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you'll get fired, I don't know. And then imagine

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Speaker 3: that you read in the newspaper some months after you

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Speaker 3: are prohibited by your superiors from doing the obvious thing

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Speaker 3: that I'm sure some cops and the NYPD wish they

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Speaker 3: could have done. I'm sure many of them wish they

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Speaker 3: could have done, which is call ICE get this person

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Speaker 3: who is a member. Well, now we're talking about people

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Speaker 3: who are I mean, how many of us have gone

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Speaker 3: to prison or gone to jail for like serious crimes.

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Speaker 2: Not that many. Point here is that these are people

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Speaker 2: who are in a jail.

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Speaker 3: Because they've done something bad and they're in the country illegally.

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Speaker 3: Imagine you're that cop Clay, you had made that arrest,

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Speaker 3: you had processed this individual, you were prohibited from telling ICE,

496
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Speaker 3: and then an incredible young woman is brutally raped and

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Speaker 3: murdered by that guy because he's still in the country.

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Speaker 3: Would I think that would haunt you. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: blaming the officer, because I understand this is the system

500
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Speaker 3: they have to go with the rules they have. But

501
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Speaker 3: I think that's a tough thing to carry in your conscience,

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Speaker 3: and the fact that it would be a tough thing

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Speaker 3: to carry in your conscience tells you a lot about

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Speaker 3: the decisions that are being made by people in places

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Speaker 3: like New York and Minneapolis when it comes to illegals.

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Speaker 2: And also Buck.

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Speaker 1: This goes back to the delusion, the manufactured delusion you've

508
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Speaker 1: been writing about. To convince Democrats that it is their

509
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Speaker 1: constitutional obligation to fight in favor of illegal immigrants being

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Speaker 1: able to violate our laws and continue to be able

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Speaker 1: to stay in this country.

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Speaker 2: Is It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean this if sometimes you look around and you

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Speaker 1: think to yourself, because I do, and I can only

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Speaker 1: imagine for people who are older than us, But you

516
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: look around and you think, I thought it was only

517
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Speaker 1: eight years ago that basically the entire country agreed on, Hey,

518
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Speaker 1: violent illegals shouldn't be in the country and we should

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Speaker 1: kick them out immediately. You're not wrong. It's just staggering

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Speaker 1: how quickly they have managed to convince a left wing

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Speaker 1: cadre of this country that they should be standing up

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Speaker 1: and fighting on behalf of illegal immigrants being able to

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Speaker 1: stay here even if they commit violent acts. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of scary, honestly.

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Speaker 3: And this is what the Democrat Party has been doing

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Speaker 3: for how many decades now have they been engaged in

527
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Speaker 3: this kind of stuff, and think of the losses the

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Speaker 3: families that have been shattered, whether it's by an illegal

529
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Speaker 3: drunk driving and killing someone, or killing a whole car

530
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Speaker 3: load a full of people, or an illegal raping and murdering.

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Speaker 3: And what they want to say on the other side

532
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Speaker 3: is always yeah, but of course, you know there are

533
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Speaker 3: crimes committed by Americans. The point is these illegals should

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Speaker 3: not have been here to be able to pray or

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Speaker 3: injure Americans period in the first place. And the government

536
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: has actively actively subverted its own laws. It is subverted.

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Speaker 3: These sanctuary cities are subverting the will of Congress. They

538
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Speaker 3: can play games about federalism and states rights and all

539
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: this stuff as much as they want, we all know

540
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Speaker 3: what's going on. They are subverting the express will of

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Speaker 3: the United States Congress through federal law by refusing to

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Speaker 3: allow for law enforcement cooperation. It's an outrage and it's

543
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Speaker 3: all on the It's on the Democrat Party and unfortunately

544
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: some Republicans who are basically open borders too, and some

545
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: really crappy libertarian think tank funded studies that are garbage.

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Speaker 3: That's really the heart of this problem, and it needs

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Speaker 3: to be cast out. It needs to be fixed, and Clay,

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Speaker 3: I think we are in the process of getting there.

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Speaker 3: But time is of the essence. Democrats looking to take

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Speaker 3: democrats looking to take back the house.

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Speaker 1: But time is also of the essence when it comes

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Speaker 1: to protecting your home and those you love. There's a

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Speaker 1: big article in the Wall Street Journal. I was reading

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00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: it this morning as I was getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: show about how super wealthy people have taken protections of

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Speaker 1: their homes to a level never seen before in this country.

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00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: The amount they have lasers outside the home, they have moats,

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Speaker 1: they have safe rooms that are one hundred percent steel,

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Speaker 1: They have sometimes acres of property underground with their own

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Speaker 1: systems in place to allow them to be able to

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Speaker 1: survive in times of peril. Most of us can't afford

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Speaker 1: things like that, but we can afford all sorts of protections,

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Speaker 1: particularly if they're non lethal. And maybe you got kids

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Speaker 1: and grandkids running all over your house. My kids and

565
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Speaker 1: their friends run all over the house all the time,

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Speaker 1: and we want to make sure that we're safe here.

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Speaker 1: But we also want to make sure that we have

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Speaker 1: access to non lethal ways to protect this household. And

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Speaker 1: that's where saber comes in. They do a great job.

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Speaker 1: They have pepper sprays, pepper gels, stun guns, whatever you

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Speaker 1: might need out there to protect your family. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: got kids going off to college, late night jobs, just

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Speaker 1: driving around. You got granddaughters and daughters going into different

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Speaker 1: parking garages late at night, and you just worry about them.

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Speaker 1: Pepper spray can make a huge difference. Maybe you are

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Speaker 1: in your home and you're worried about who might be

577
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Speaker 1: trying to come in your house late at night, but

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Speaker 1: you also got kids and grandkids coming in at all hours.

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Speaker 1: That's where non lethal home protection can make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Just trust me on this. Go check out Saber radio

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Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls. Lenna McMahon going to

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Speaker 1: join a second Secretary of Education at the top of

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Speaker 1: the next hour, but we got a bunch of podcast

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Speaker 1: talkbacks and then our buddy Jesse Kelly top of the

588
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Speaker 1: third hour, let me hit some of these. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people still weighing in on the Savannah Guthrie kidnapping.

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Speaker 2: No more news on sorry.

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Speaker 1: The Nancy Guthrie kidnapping Savannah Guthrie's daughter still one of

592
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Speaker 1: the major news stories out there. Mike twenty five years

593
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Speaker 1: retired law enforcement cutdee.

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, Mike with twenty five years or retired law

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Speaker 6: enforcement man. This guy that did the kidnapping is definitely

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Speaker 6: a whack job.

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Speaker 2: He is no pro.

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Speaker 6: Nobody shows up at a house to grab their target

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Speaker 6: and plays around putting grass over the camera. I mean,

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Speaker 6: come on, that is like the most the most lamest

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Speaker 6: thing I've ever seen. You hit the house hard, you

602
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Speaker 6: get your target, and you're out of there.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 6: This guy is clearly, clearly not a professional hit man.

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Speaker 1: Well, we still have no idea what hap and I

606
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: do think that's an interesting take because there is the

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Speaker 1: video of him with like the grass sage or whatever

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Speaker 1: it is watching.

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Just to be clear, we never said we thought he

611
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Speaker 3: was like a pro. It's just he planned it. He

612
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: clearly it wasn't a guy who was in the neighborhood

613
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Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I'm about to do a

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Speaker 3: kidnapping now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What we were saying was he covered his entire body

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Speaker 1: to avoid leaving any trace evidence it appears now, Yes,

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Speaker 1: was he maybe messy outside? He did manage to cut

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Speaker 1: the cameras and they didn't find it for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like all right, let's see a bunch of

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Speaker 1: people reacting to the cannabis interview we had yesterday with

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Speaker 1: Alex Berenson cut a Linda in Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: You know this is really my pet peep with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Marijuana is a bad influence. Well what do you think

625
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Speaker 3: gambling is and yet you personally support it?

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Speaker 2: Not cool?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I don't think you should be unable to

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Speaker 1: smoke pot. I just think the conversation about pot as

629
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Speaker 1: not dangerous. The data is actually starting to reflect that

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Speaker 1: it is. And by the way, I love gambling on sports.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you should wager your life savings on

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Speaker 1: who's gonna win a football game or a basketball game

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00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: or anything else. I like drinking alcohol. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that you should become so inebriated on a regular basis

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Speaker 1: that you become an alcoholic. I think moderation, in many

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00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: respects is the key to life. So I like alcohol,

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Speaker 1: I like gambling, I like sugar, I drink eat, I

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00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: like cobbler. I kind of like a lot of the

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00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: things that are not that healthy for you. So I

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Speaker 1: do think apparently the king of vice on this show,

641
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Speaker 1: I'm the king of ice. But so I think you

642
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: need to understand the consequences. There's this idea that pot

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Speaker 1: has no negative.

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Speaker 3: Consequency, and it has tremendous negative consequences. And this is

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Speaker 3: why people should have the debate right now, is that

646
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: people should at least have it. Should be honest, right

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Speaker 3: It's like when people were smoking cigarette because their doctors

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00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: told them that it was good for them. Like, that's wrong,

649
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: that's a lie. It's killing people. It's bad. We're not

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Speaker 3: saying you got a ban all cigarettes, but we are saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, you should know at least what's really going on.

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Speaker 3: And you know, drinking in excess is bad, gambling excess

653
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Speaker 3: is bad. A lot of things in excess are bad.

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Speaker 3: So you know, these are the questions that society must

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Speaker 3: grapple with.

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Speaker 1: Play is grappling with them. Here, what what do we got? No,

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. We'll come back with Linda McMahon.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I like wrestling. I don't think you

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Speaker 1: should jump off the top turn buckle one hundred times either,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about it next