Speaker 1: That's okay, because no one here is.
Speaker 2: It's time once again for Team Beat, the show where
Speaker 2: I Danielle Fischl, a podcaster, TV director, eighth place ballroom dancer,
Speaker 2: mom of two, and former child actor, finally get a
Speaker 2: little payback for sharing my own teenage years with millions
Speaker 2: of viewers every week by convincing other celebrities to spill
Speaker 2: their most vulnerable and awkward childhood memories. Every week, I
Speaker 2: am sitting with interesting people subjects you know and love,
Speaker 2: hoping I can coax them to open up about their
Speaker 2: younger selves, the cringe, the chaos, the deep embarrassing stuff,
Speaker 2: because I know firsthand that it's an entertaining way to
Speaker 2: reveal who they are today. Also, I just think it's
Speaker 2: the least they can do. I gave you my childhood,
Speaker 2: It's time we hear yours, and this week I'm talking
Speaker 2: to two men living their absolute best lives. As Synonymous
Speaker 2: with Boston as Blake Lively's accent in the town. He
Speaker 2: first burst onto the scene in the fourth season of Survivor,
Speaker 2: where he may have ranked tenth on the show, but
Speaker 2: he finished first in Our Hearts. Often referred to as
Speaker 2: the show's greatest player, he'd return for its eighth season,
Speaker 2: where he placed second, but also proposed to the woman
Speaker 2: who won, his now wife of twenty years, who he
Speaker 2: married in the Bahamas for a two hour special on CBS, so.
Speaker 3: Like no one really lost.
Speaker 2: He'd go on to participate in a record five seasons,
Speaker 2: taking home the grand prize on Survivor Redemption Island and
Speaker 2: creating a bevy of memorable TV appearances as the greatest
Speaker 2: reality show strategist of all time, hoping that one day
Speaker 2: he might just meet a young ninja looking for a
Speaker 2: master to lead him to sense status. And then Yoda
Speaker 2: found his Luke Skywalker on the third season of The Traders,
Speaker 2: where he met today's other special guest, a young heart
Speaker 2: throb who focused on a faceless career of TV production
Speaker 2: after watching his older brother skyrocket through the Disney Machine
Speaker 2: in the two thousands. But when the Daytime Emmy winning
Speaker 2: creator finally decided to step in front of the camera
Speaker 2: for Off the Grid, a YouTube series he did with
Speaker 2: his brother, everything changed. He found himself not only competing
Speaker 2: on Traders and meeting his new platonic life mate, but
Speaker 2: walking away as a winner and a new social media sensation.
Speaker 2: Then he was my fellow dance competitor on the pop
Speaker 2: culture juggernaut that is season thirty four of Dancing with
Speaker 2: the Stars, going viral and finishing fourth, finally ending the
Speaker 2: title he actually wanted People Magazine's Sexiest tattoo.
Speaker 4: Sure, these two.
Speaker 2: Reality TV titans are cool now, but I can tell
Speaker 2: deep down they're just two boys with a plethora of
Speaker 2: mortifying stories from high school. So please welcome to Team
Speaker 2: Beat the modern day, Wayne and Garth, Dylan Ephron and
Speaker 2: Boston Rob Mariano.
Speaker 5: Can appreciation for how good that was? I say podcast,
Speaker 5: and I'm blown away every time.
Speaker 6: Like the whole time it was happening, I was like,
Speaker 6: what is going on?
Speaker 5: It's insane, Like the talent, Yeah, it's unbelievable. It is
Speaker 5: so good. The first podcast I was on with her,
Speaker 5: I was like, do you have nearly audiobooks? Because I
Speaker 5: want to listen to one.
Speaker 7: I thought it was like we were like like one
Speaker 7: of those romance novels. You listen to the start one
Speaker 7: and then I was like, wait, what is this is?
Speaker 7: And then also this podcast about sharing our feelings. Someone
Speaker 7: forgot to tell me that.
Speaker 4: Didn't give him the.
Speaker 5: Okay, you know the strategy?
Speaker 2: Oh, boys, I am thrilled to have what I've just
Speaker 2: decided is my reality show alliance.
Speaker 4: The three of We've never really.
Speaker 2: Your show, your your web series is the first time
Speaker 2: we had to work together, and yet we were still
Speaker 2: on opposing.
Speaker 6: You're working hard. You got a Boston, Massachusetts. You know.
Speaker 2: I had to mutter you up because I mentioned that, like,
Speaker 2: how do I get in?
Speaker 3: How do I work?
Speaker 4: We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2: So for those keeping score at home, I have forced
Speaker 2: their friendship into a trio and I'm just totally.
Speaker 3: Fine with it.
Speaker 2: So first, since I am sitting with two reality show
Speaker 2: strategy legends, I wanted to know. Were you both always
Speaker 2: competitive as kids?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, I love My parents still say it to
Speaker 5: this day. I used to cheat it yai like YACHTSI
Speaker 5: is hard to cheat on. You gotta wait till they
Speaker 5: look away. Yeah, I hated to lose.
Speaker 6: I was like oldest child.
Speaker 7: I had a brother, a younger brother and younger sister
Speaker 7: and grew up in Boston and like, nobody let me
Speaker 7: get away with anything. So it was like constantly you
Speaker 7: have to earn it, and like if you wanted to
Speaker 7: be on.
Speaker 6: Top, you had to be competitive.
Speaker 4: You also played hockey right.
Speaker 6: Still, I still play hockey.
Speaker 3: Did you play at Boston University?
Speaker 6: I did not play at Boston University.
Speaker 5: What's it's like the Senior World Cup or something.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, all American sixty fifty, the Older Person League
Speaker 8: in Florida, the ARP Cup.
Speaker 4: Did you win the aar P Cup.
Speaker 6: I'm working on it.
Speaker 5: I'm working on It's surprisingly good.
Speaker 4: What was teenage Boston?
Speaker 1: Rob?
Speaker 2: Like, I imagine in fourth grade you just ran like a
Speaker 2: weekly poker night or something.
Speaker 7: Not far after enough fourth grade, but probably like sixth
Speaker 7: seventh grade, we started playing cards. Yeah, and it wasn't poker,
Speaker 7: but it was like those other games.
Speaker 6: But mostly sports.
Speaker 7: I mean ever since I was a kid, Like I
Speaker 7: learned to skate when I was like two years old,
Speaker 7: Like I played hockey, played baseball, basketball, football, like every
Speaker 7: sport all the time. And really I think like that's
Speaker 7: what my parents did to keep me out of any
Speaker 7: other trouble that was going on.
Speaker 6: So I was lucky enough. I had a mom that.
Speaker 7: Would wake up at five point thirty in the morning
Speaker 7: on the weekends and drive us all over the state
Speaker 7: and played lots lots of hockey and sports.
Speaker 2: Were do you feel like you were always good at
Speaker 2: reading people, you know.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think like I've always been observant, and my dad
Speaker 7: was like a really good negotiator, like he was in
Speaker 7: real estate stuff, so I would watch him. But I
Speaker 7: think a lot of it's innate. I don't think a
Speaker 7: lot of people can learn how.
Speaker 6: To like like like, either you got it you don't.
Speaker 7: I think because I've tried to tell people, and some
Speaker 7: people more receptive on paying attention to different things. Yeah,
Speaker 7: but other people just naturally see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're good at reading social cues and picking little
Speaker 2: things up.
Speaker 6: I like to tease a lot, you know, could get
Speaker 6: the upper hand.
Speaker 2: Dylan, did you have childhood hobbies?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Sports. Everything he was just saying was like I
Speaker 5: was playing year round soccer, year on baseball. It was
Speaker 5: like if I wasn't playing, I was at the sports field,
Speaker 5: like playing wiffle wall and it was just year round
Speaker 5: some sport. I was never the best at any of them,
Speaker 5: like that was pretty good, an all star and most
Speaker 5: of them, but I was never the best player on
Speaker 5: the team. My talent was that I could pick up
Speaker 5: any sport really quick. So it was like I when
Speaker 5: the east ball got too frustrating. Like I was just like,
Speaker 5: all right, I'm over this. So it took us so
Speaker 5: much time. I was like, I'm gonna go to tennis.
Speaker 5: And I made the varsity team for tennis. So it's
Speaker 5: like I could pick up sports really quick. Okay, So
Speaker 5: it was volleyball, it was tennis, it was soccer, it
Speaker 5: was baseball, whatever sport that yet, dancing, whatever sport it was,
Speaker 5: I could pick up good. I was never the best.
Speaker 2: Okay, when did you start really like truly caring about fitness,
Speaker 2: Like did you guys grow up.
Speaker 4: With a home gym?
Speaker 5: That was something I like, my brother would come home
Speaker 5: because I was like, growing up, I was big for
Speaker 5: my age and Zach was shorter. So then Zach took
Speaker 5: off hit puberty, was all of a sudden, came back
Speaker 5: and had muscles, so that I could see that, like,
Speaker 5: oh you can actually get muscles. So like I would
Speaker 5: just work out with him. See what he was doing.
Speaker 5: He's always reading fitness magazines. This is back like early
Speaker 5: two thousands or whatever. So it was like he's literally
Speaker 5: reading the magazines for workouts, and I would just copy him. So, okay,
Speaker 5: that's when I started getting to the gym and again
Speaker 5: when sports, it started to help. Like I started to
Speaker 5: put up I was six a buck fifty and then
Speaker 5: I started putting on muscle.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know it's funny like I had like almost
Speaker 7: the opposite. So I was the older brother and my
Speaker 7: younger brother grew first, and he was bigger than me
Speaker 7: at one point, like three inches taller and played on
Speaker 7: like a different hockey team, and he was like the star,
Speaker 7: and I was like second fiddle, and then I caught up,
Speaker 7: and you know, like but it was always cool, Like
Speaker 7: I always hear you tell the story about your older
Speaker 7: brother and how much like you always like looked up
Speaker 7: to him and stuff in a weird kind of way.
Speaker 6: Like my younger brother when he.
Speaker 7: Was bigger than me, he always still respected me as
Speaker 7: the older brother. Yeah, and like to this day, we
Speaker 7: like still have a great relationship. Yeah, it's my poor
Speaker 7: sister got dragged around the state for all the hockey
Speaker 7: games and we put her in net and played goalie.
Speaker 6: We made her play goalie. But but yeah, it's it's
Speaker 6: similar but different.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that if it worked in both
Speaker 5: of our advantages. It was like I was tall, I
Speaker 5: was in like athletics, so I straight into sports. Zach
Speaker 5: was more in the arts, right, And when you're younger
Speaker 5: brothers competing with you in basketball and winning, it's like,
Speaker 5: maybe that's not your sport. That leans into what he's good.
Speaker 4: It was good for us both when you were really little.
Speaker 2: Did your parents try to separate? Like I have two sons,
Speaker 2: which is why I'm asking this question, and they're two
Speaker 2: years apart, and both of them, will they like the
Speaker 2: same thing, or at least they think they like the
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 4: Oh, Adler's favorite color is blue.
Speaker 2: Keaton's favorite color is blue. And I'm really trying to
Speaker 2: encourage them that, like, it doesn't have to be your
Speaker 2: favorite color though, like green could be your favorite color.
Speaker 2: And for a long time it was bothering out there
Speaker 2: that he's like everything I like, Keaton likes and now
Speaker 2: they're starting to find their own things. Did your parents
Speaker 2: nurture that or did they like encourage.
Speaker 5: You guys to do a lot four and a half
Speaker 5: years apart, so I think it's it was different. It
Speaker 5: was almost exact opposite you think I like blue. It
Speaker 5: was it was almost like, yeah, I think we we
Speaker 5: were so different a lot of those ways, so that like, yeah,
Speaker 5: my brother was in plays and stuff. I was like,
Speaker 5: there's no chances, no way my friends didn't go to
Speaker 5: Like I was always shocked on like how is my
Speaker 5: brother making plays cool when I'm in high school and
Speaker 5: plays aren't cool? It was it was just like is
Speaker 5: it a different era? Is it wasn't my brother stuff
Speaker 5: like that? So like, yeah, we didn't have too many
Speaker 5: overlap in our hobbies.
Speaker 2: I see, give me the worst fashion decisions that young
Speaker 2: Dylan Efron and young Rob Marianno made?
Speaker 4: What did what was.
Speaker 2: Like when you think back and you think of those
Speaker 2: family photos.
Speaker 7: Listen, my style is the sane. It hasn't changed in
Speaker 7: forty years. That's the problem. I still rock the white
Speaker 7: ald white Adida Shelto's jeans, a black T shirt or
Speaker 7: dark T shirt and a back.
Speaker 5: But dad, it's a classic thing. It's like my dad.
Speaker 5: My dad's dressed the same for so long that the
Speaker 5: style's back now. But now he's changing. I mean he's
Speaker 5: in card shirts. I was like, no, go back to what.
Speaker 6: It was cool. I mean fashion was never really like
Speaker 6: a thought for me.
Speaker 7: I can't say that there was a period of time
Speaker 7: like probably like middle school to early high school where
Speaker 7: like there was a fancy pair of jeans called jibbo jeans,
Speaker 7: and everybody wanted them.
Speaker 3: And do you ever have some Zekavalricci's.
Speaker 6: I didn't have that.
Speaker 7: I didn't have them, but some of the kids did.
Speaker 7: But like, I mean, it wasn't really something I really
Speaker 7: thought about.
Speaker 5: I did in high school, you know how you get
Speaker 5: like yearbook awards or whatever. I was best dressed and
Speaker 5: in my photo I was wearing cutoff cords and a flannel.
Speaker 5: I say my biggest fashion faux pa was my hair
Speaker 5: because I had long hair, like long hair, like the
Speaker 5: long hair was feminine looking hair as a like in
Speaker 5: my middle school years where I'm looking feminine already, so
Speaker 5: it was like that set. Yeah, I don't think long
Speaker 5: hair was the choice. I loved it. I love being
Speaker 5: different in that way. But yeah, it was like until
Speaker 5: I started looking a little more masculine. Probably wasn't the move.
Speaker 3: Were you wearing Converse in your best dressed photo?
Speaker 5: I feel like I bet or Vans probably, Yeah, Van's
Speaker 5: brown cut off cord in a flannel.
Speaker 2: Well, I won best hair for my high school. Yeah, thanks,
Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety nine. That was that was my
Speaker 2: super superlative.
Speaker 5: I think hair for guys. Is one of those things that,
Speaker 5: at least for me, like I would never have noticed
Speaker 5: hair as a kid, like some of the.
Speaker 6: Things I don't have. I have plenty of hair.
Speaker 5: You've got hair, But as you get older and hair
Speaker 5: is like hot, you're like, oh, she gotta good hair.
Speaker 5: That is not like high school. You're not looking at hair.
Speaker 4: It's a wired mature it is.
Speaker 5: So you start noticing you like, you know, he's got
Speaker 5: a good hairs Lauren from Dancing with the Stars. I
Speaker 5: was standing next to one regular Yeah. I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: you got great hair, and she's like, wow, how many
Speaker 5: people tell you that that's really good?
Speaker 4: I know she's gorgeous hair.
Speaker 2: I have admitted that my first kiss is on television.
Speaker 2: I had never kissed a boy before that very first
Speaker 2: episode of Boy Meets World where I had to slam
Speaker 2: a young Ben Savage up against a locker and kiss him.
Speaker 2: So my first kiss happened in front of my parents
Speaker 2: because we didn't rehearse it during the week, so when
Speaker 2: we taped it in front of the live studio audience,
Speaker 2: my parents and my grandparents were present for my first
Speaker 2: real kiss.
Speaker 3: I want to hear about your first kisses what was
Speaker 3: your first kiss? How old were you take it?
Speaker 6: I remember my first kiss.
Speaker 7: I was in sixth grade, okay, and school we just
Speaker 7: moved from I grew up in like a part of
Speaker 7: the city of Boston, and my parents moved to like
Speaker 7: the suburbs.
Speaker 5: So it was the.
Speaker 7: End of sixth grade, year before summer, and I had
Speaker 7: a girlfriend and it was supposed to be you know,
Speaker 7: summer was coming, and to make it official, I had
Speaker 7: to give her a kiss. And I remember we went
Speaker 7: there was a lake by the house, and I was
Speaker 7: so nervous, I remember, and I just went. We went
Speaker 7: for a walk down by the lake and I kissed there.
Speaker 7: Did she just like A I don't know, Like I
Speaker 7: think she probably wanted it a lot longer than I did. So, no,
Speaker 7: like the first real kiss, that's what you're talking about,
Speaker 7: real causs real like French kiss.
Speaker 6: No, I haven't.
Speaker 5: I haven't heard it a while, But now I'm been
Speaker 5: visiting him with all his his Boston bros. Be like
Speaker 5: bro friend's kissed through.
Speaker 6: It was like it was like it was like how
Speaker 6: to go You're good? Yeah, yeah good? But leading up
Speaker 6: to it us so nice?
Speaker 5: Did you kiss her?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Friends kissing? We didn't have to say that. That
Speaker 6: was understood.
Speaker 5: Bro, just bragging your body.
Speaker 6: This is a friendship based on heat.
Speaker 5: We're compeding against each other too much, though.
Speaker 3: All right, what's what's your first kid?
Speaker 5: I'm nearly positive I was at a dance in seventh
Speaker 5: grade and it was like classic grinding and stuff.
Speaker 7: Like that grinding, sweetish grinding.
Speaker 5: I was definitely the last sweet spot where it was
Speaker 5: like every dance was just grinding and there's always like
Speaker 5: chaperones like hey, separate, separate. Yeah, but yeah, I think
Speaker 5: it was grinding. And then we turned around and had
Speaker 5: a little little action, a little.
Speaker 6: Friend we called action something else that came later.
Speaker 5: Mine wasn't full French.
Speaker 8: It was like like like uncomfortable talking about.
Speaker 5: All of this, like like you didn't tell me about
Speaker 5: it beforehand. I can't say it was a great I
Speaker 5: wasn't full friends yet.
Speaker 6: That's work to do.
Speaker 4: It wasn't full full French.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, would you guys have called yourselves cool
Speaker 2: in high school?
Speaker 5: No? Yeah, I think I had really I had cool friends. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I think I was. I could go both sides.
Speaker 5: It was kind of a dork too.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what made you a door?
Speaker 5: Like I still like wanted to get good grades. I
Speaker 5: remember like and it just depends on the year. Like
Speaker 5: I think my dorkist year was probably seventh grade, and
Speaker 5: I remember I would like skip recess just go into
Speaker 5: like like I was. It was like that age where
Speaker 5: you're like writing poems and like and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: Loved writing age.
Speaker 6: I don't even I don't even know. He's like trying
Speaker 6: to think if my ears are actually working.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like is there a stage where you go through
Speaker 7: writing poems?
Speaker 5: I loved writing. It was like I would like go
Speaker 5: there early to start.
Speaker 7: Writing, other than like when your teachers teaching you about
Speaker 7: different high and showed and you have.
Speaker 5: To like, yeah, I loved it. See, Like so I
Speaker 5: was a little dorky, but then I had really cool
Speaker 5: friends too, so I was like, it just depends on
Speaker 5: a year. I had some super dorky years and I
Speaker 5: had some ones where I felt cooler.
Speaker 3: You must have been cool.
Speaker 7: I felt I always felt like in the middle, like
Speaker 7: I did, like like there were always some kids that
Speaker 7: were like way cooler, but I wasn't like on the bottom.
Speaker 6: Like I always felt in the middle.
Speaker 7: And I think like growing up like my parents like
Speaker 7: they made a conscious effort to always make sure that
Speaker 7: we were kind of like in the middle of like
Speaker 7: you know, like where we lived, like how much they
Speaker 7: gave us, how much you know, like we did we
Speaker 7: had to work for like stuff, but also like you know,
Speaker 7: not on the extreme.
Speaker 6: And I think that helped a lot.
Speaker 3: That's really smart. You don't ever want to be an outlier.
Speaker 6: I think it's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you two have been friends in high school?
Speaker 6: I think maybe yeah, we would.
Speaker 5: I think we would have over sports. Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: it was or thro would have, and then we probably
Speaker 5: just would have got separated when I went to like
Speaker 5: the ap classes and.
Speaker 7: I was actually a wicked smart So Dylan doesn't even know.
Speaker 7: I actually is a true story. I had a scholarship
Speaker 7: to go to Harvard University as an undergrad for of
Speaker 7: physics and as a junior in high school.
Speaker 6: And I went and I took the.
Speaker 7: College level class, the physics class at Harvard when I
Speaker 7: was a junior in high school. And he's wondering whether
Speaker 7: or not that's true or not.
Speaker 5: But it is, so I believe it's true.
Speaker 6: Yeah, wow, physics.
Speaker 7: Yes, I loved Like see, here's the thing I never
Speaker 7: knew what like different professions were, which is ridiculous to
Speaker 7: think about. But when I went to college, like I
Speaker 7: didn't know what an engineer did. If I did, I
Speaker 7: would have been an engineer because I love that kind
Speaker 7: of stuff, Like I have that kind of brain and stuff.
Speaker 7: But I thought an engineer was someone that drove a
Speaker 7: train and that was it. I didn't know what the
Speaker 7: college of engineering was. I was like, wow, like people
Speaker 7: paying a lot so they can go drive trains, which
Speaker 7: is really dumb.
Speaker 6: And I get it now how dumb it is.
Speaker 9: And it's like, yeah, you probably wouldn't have made it
Speaker 9: as an engineer, but I would have.
Speaker 6: I liked like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's really impressive.
Speaker 5: But I was.
Speaker 6: Terrible at like Grandma and English.
Speaker 5: And this makes it literally having an argument over what
Speaker 5: the equation of buoyancy was last.
Speaker 2: Night last night, What is the equation of boyce.
Speaker 5: Buoyancy equals mass? Yeahs volume grats.
Speaker 7: Just you guys remember from school or we were discussing
Speaker 7: it and yeah, helped us, both of us together almost
Speaker 7: got the folks.
Speaker 5: Badmoved took two physics class, but my second one I
Speaker 5: realized it wasn't that good.
Speaker 6: On the second one, yes, but I only had two
Speaker 6: A P classes.
Speaker 5: I didn't have all of them. I had a lot,
Speaker 5: but my school was also pretty sick. They offered a lot.
Speaker 2: We know that you met your girlfriend Courtney, an actual
Speaker 2: human angel that I loved. She's incredible in high school.
Speaker 2: Do you remember asking her to be your girlfriend?
Speaker 5: Ooh, the actual ask. It happened super organically, but I
Speaker 5: remember we like we both remember locking eyes in the
Speaker 5: math hall. That was the first time we like saw
Speaker 5: each other. She says, she knew who I was and
Speaker 5: like I was the older kid, so she always like
Speaker 5: knew who I was. But that was the first time
Speaker 5: that we like locked eyes and we're like hey. But
Speaker 5: then I think I like reached out on MySpace space Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then we played tennis and she didn't know me.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty quirky again once you get to know me,
Speaker 5: so like I again, I just like I'm just doing
Speaker 5: my own thing. I was like, hey, you want to
Speaker 5: play tennis. We played for a little bit and I
Speaker 5: was like, I'm thirsty. I'm gonna go with Jahma Juice.
Speaker 5: And then I left and she was like, oh that
Speaker 5: went awful. Yeah, told me way later. She's like, why
Speaker 5: do you leave to go to Joba juice. I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm thirsty, and she's like no, Like I thought you
Speaker 5: were like hated. Yeah, It's like I don't know.
Speaker 2: We just started playing tennis out walking Eyes in the
Speaker 2: Mouth Fall and you left me for a.
Speaker 5: Juice because to guess, I like it, that's just me.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm like a one thing. I have
Speaker 5: no idea. I was just doing my thing.
Speaker 4: Would you offer her a jompa juice?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 5: Of course I.
Speaker 3: Walk with you.
Speaker 5: I have no idea if I didn't or what Like,
Speaker 5: I thought that they weren't great, so I didn't.
Speaker 4: It was over over.
Speaker 5: I think it's like the same way like when Corney
Speaker 5: and I have conversations. Sometimes I'm like, all right, we
Speaker 5: said what we're going to say, but she'll keep talking.
Speaker 5: I think it was just one of those where I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: like we're done. I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Did you have a high school sweetheart?
Speaker 6: I had? Yeah, I had a couple of different girlfriends
Speaker 6: in high school. Then I was really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob, you were a superstar in that first massive
Speaker 2: wave of reality TV. WHOA, but you were also the
Speaker 2: perfect demo for its birth on MTV. Did you watch
Speaker 2: a lot of Real World.
Speaker 6: I did it. None of it, none of it really. Yeah.
Speaker 7: It was so wild, like even like applying to be
Speaker 7: on Survivor. It was kind of just like a spur
Speaker 7: of the moment thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and.
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, I could have never imagined but I didn't.
Speaker 7: I didn't watch any of those other I still don't know,
Speaker 7: Like now it's the challenge like we did Traders last season.
Speaker 7: I met some of those people, but I realized, like
Speaker 7: that came from that.
Speaker 5: Now, did you watch it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course. That was the craziest thing about walking
Speaker 5: into because I only watched it when I was young.
Speaker 6: Wait, you watched like the old Real World.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why when I saw Wes, I was like, like,
Speaker 5: I don't I watched like it was always on school,
Speaker 5: Like yeah, same same way These World was. I was
Speaker 5: on Channel forty five. This would have been on Channel
Speaker 5: but like I watched like a few seasons here or there.
Speaker 5: But Wes was so iconic in those seasons. So I
Speaker 5: met him. I was like, dude, I used to watch
Speaker 5: you as a kid, and he's like, you're making me
Speaker 5: feel old, right, what's so crazy is like he is old,
Speaker 5: he's not.
Speaker 6: So you watched me, you know.
Speaker 5: When I was like, I was watching this when I'm
Speaker 5: twelve or something. He's like seventeen eighteen, like he was
Speaker 5: was young. Yeah, he was like he was starting fights.
Speaker 5: He was just like strong. It's crazy that we're like
Speaker 5: six years apart whatever we are. Yeah, but it feels like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I felt like I was watching a grown man getting
Speaker 5: fights and stuff like that. But he was eighteen.
Speaker 7: It's wild man, like, like the whole way that it's
Speaker 7: gone for so long.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know.
Speaker 2: You also though it were in Boston right around the
Speaker 2: time of of New Kids on the Block.
Speaker 3: Are you so no?
Speaker 6: But I remember when that was like a whole you
Speaker 6: doing thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know any of them?
Speaker 5: I so.
Speaker 4: Tell the story.
Speaker 7: So the part of Boston where I grew up was
Speaker 7: called Hyde Park and it's like a section of Great Boston,
Speaker 7: and like once a year in the summer, they had
Speaker 7: these things called Hype Park Days where they blocked down
Speaker 7: the streets and it was basically like a block party,
Speaker 7: like the businesses would go out sell food and whatever,
Speaker 7: and the new kids were brand new and they were
Speaker 7: doing like a local performance, like they were just getting started.
Speaker 7: They were big, you know, and it was like Donnie
Speaker 7: Wahlberg and like Jordan, I can't remember them all night.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we had a gym that we used to play.
Speaker 7: Basketball and called the Municipal Building and every day we'd
Speaker 7: go there, me and all my friends would play basketball.
Speaker 7: Well it's high park day, so we're going to play basketball.
Speaker 7: And the gym was closed down because the New Kids
Speaker 7: and Mark Wahlberg Marky Mark at the time, was there
Speaker 7: and we got into.
Speaker 6: A little bit of a scuffle.
Speaker 9: You no, no, we didn't fight, but they were like
Speaker 9: words back and forth, like this is our gym, what
Speaker 9: are you doing here? And they had closed it down
Speaker 9: for them to play while they did it. And it's
Speaker 9: funny because years later.
Speaker 7: Donnie had a movie come out, well Mark, I can't
Speaker 7: remember which one one of them had a movie come
Speaker 7: out Huckabees, and they had a big premiere in Connecticut
Speaker 7: at Mohegan Sun with a golf tournament. So it was
Speaker 7: the first time I saw him twenty years later, and like, I.
Speaker 6: Was like, hey, do you remember this time? And he
Speaker 6: like looked at me, He's like, were you there?
Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, that was me.
Speaker 7: But everybody loved the New Kids. They're great now, like
Speaker 7: we're good but everybody loved them. They were huge new
Speaker 7: kids on the block.
Speaker 5: Worse it was for sure it was a song.
Speaker 6: There were lots of songs, but there's like.
Speaker 5: Uh, Chinese food makes me sick.
Speaker 7: No, that's not them. I'm not singing to any of
Speaker 7: the songs, but I don't.
Speaker 5: They referenced kids of the So what was.
Speaker 2: The music you listened to as a kid or a team?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 7: Really bad music, like a lot of like rap music,
Speaker 7: like gangster rap music. I like classic rock like my dad,
Speaker 7: just like you know Beatles era, Bob Dylan sixties. So
Speaker 7: like my dad played guitar, my brother played guitar. I
Speaker 7: have no musical ability at all, but I grew up
Speaker 7: listening to their generation music and the trash that was
Speaker 7: in our generation I know. But look like there was
Speaker 7: some like hard rock like def Leppard, you know, Aerosmith
Speaker 7: obviously in the Boston Band they were big. I love music,
Speaker 7: but like it wasn't like a big thing in my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was on your earliest iPod?
Speaker 3: Dylan?
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, it wasn't even an iPod. It was a rio. Really,
Speaker 5: my dad was a little budget finger was like that.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 3: Your day's like deal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I got the rio. It was like
Speaker 5: a little red iPod looking thing. Oh my god, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that was a blue one. But I'm shocked I remember
Speaker 5: the name. It probably held like one hundred songs. We
Speaker 5: had a cool mix where I grew up in the
Speaker 5: Central Coast because we got a lot of Bay Bay
Speaker 5: area rap influence, so like Andrea and Katina and a
Speaker 5: bunch of like like cool rap influence from there, but
Speaker 5: then some SoCal as well. So it was a weird
Speaker 5: mix of like guitar like more like Jack Johnson type
Speaker 5: stuff and.
Speaker 3: Singer song and some cool like indie rap.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that was pretty much my list.
Speaker 2: Well, now we get to see grown up Dylan and
Speaker 2: Rob take their competitive streaks to a whole new level
Speaker 2: with Everything's a Competition, a YouTube show where the two
Speaker 2: of you are going head to head in various challenges
Speaker 2: from pottery to medieval times duels.
Speaker 3: Where did this concept come from?
Speaker 7: All from Dylan's brain? Ride Like like it's like we're
Speaker 7: in preschool kindergarten? Did he has like some unfinished business
Speaker 7: and he wants to settle it All.
Speaker 5: Those times as I lost in the fifth grade physics classes,
Speaker 5: I need redemption like we're literally talking about like the
Speaker 5: dropping eggs from from heights and just like kids.
Speaker 6: Just see that's good. I did it. I did it
Speaker 6: when I was a kid.
Speaker 7: I was telling him I made like air bags were
Speaker 7: like brand new airbags and cars, and like I built
Speaker 7: a tube with like two balloons on each end and
Speaker 7: put the egg in the middle.
Speaker 5: Is it was it already inflated or did you have
Speaker 5: the mechanism actually going in?
Speaker 2: No, I was already was an engineer, so he probably.
Speaker 6: Air bag.
Speaker 5: How did you do that? Your parents car?
Speaker 2: We we used the pool noodle, So we cut a
Speaker 2: noodle and then cut the sides, put the air the
Speaker 2: noodle around it, and then wrapped.
Speaker 4: That really absorbed.
Speaker 5: I so badly want to share my strategy, but I'm
Speaker 5: probably going to reuse it. I appreciate this episode, so.
Speaker 6: I have a new one.
Speaker 7: And I was like, I'm glad you said that because
Speaker 7: I was just going to tell you I have the
Speaker 7: full proof one that I know works every time.
Speaker 6: But I'm not saying it now because you just said.
Speaker 7: That that's how it goes, Okay, I see, I mean,
Speaker 7: do we want to talk about the episode we just did?
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's try about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's so excited.
Speaker 2: We just had so much fun playing live fruit Ninja.
Speaker 5: Yes, we had a real ninja.
Speaker 2: Master Sun came from Dragons m m A Dragons Martial
Speaker 2: Arts where my kids go to karate and I have
Speaker 2: taken classes, and he brought a katana sword that had
Speaker 2: never been.
Speaker 6: Used, so sharp, razor sharp.
Speaker 2: Razor sharp, dragons engraved on it.
Speaker 4: Just a beautiful sword.
Speaker 5: It is cooler than I could have imagined the sword
Speaker 5: would be.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're like into sords.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've always be.
Speaker 2: So do we want to talk about how it went?
Speaker 2: What what we We broke up into teams. Dylan and
Speaker 2: I were on a team, Robin Jensen were on a team.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I would say this was a really non
Speaker 5: competitive episode, like we didn't really care. It was just so.
Speaker 7: Fun, the most climactic episode that we've had yet.
Speaker 6: It came down to the last, very last fruit swing.
Speaker 5: We were cheering everyone on, like, I was so happy
Speaker 5: Jensen got it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so good.
Speaker 4: It's just like we relaxed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, really cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which was cool. It was a cool change to
Speaker 5: be so competitive for an episode.
Speaker 6: Okay, you guys want the truth.
Speaker 4: It was painful.
Speaker 6: It was actually a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: It was. It worked a lot like some of these.
Speaker 5: The routine in this show is that my five year
Speaker 5: old brain comes up with a concept that Boston Rob
Speaker 5: just tries to pick apart. Yeah, hates on it. Then
Speaker 5: he wins and says, that was so much fun. It
Speaker 5: is like, I wish we had a montage of him
Speaker 5: just so happy he wins and goes, that was so
Speaker 5: much fun. That was a great idea one.
Speaker 2: It's your version of Howard Stern's Hateless You know, around
Speaker 2: the end of the year they do a compilation of
Speaker 2: every time throughout the year he says, I hate something,
Speaker 2: I hate lines, I hate the cold you would have.
Speaker 4: That was so much fun.
Speaker 6: Really, this one was a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: But like usually he doesn't tell me about it and
Speaker 7: he's changing the rules.
Speaker 5: Oh no, the best one we shot, Like, I don't
Speaker 5: know if it's our best episode, but it was so
Speaker 5: fun because we did a fire making challenge which we
Speaker 5: hadn't thought of for some weird reason. Yeah, it was
Speaker 5: actually the first time I've seen him nervous, like I.
Speaker 7: Lose situation for me, Danielle, right, like the guy that
Speaker 7: should know how to do the fire right, So if
Speaker 7: I do it and I win, like, it looks like
Speaker 7: I'm dunking on him, right he came up with the idea,
Speaker 7: But if I lose.
Speaker 5: I look like a companion and his credit. He didn't complain,
Speaker 5: Like I was like, I don't even know if I
Speaker 5: want to tell him, because how funny would it be
Speaker 5: if I I just like he just walked into it.
Speaker 5: But I was like, I can't do that to him.
Speaker 5: I haven't cheated, I haven't researched stuff. I was like,
Speaker 5: I gotta tell him what it is. He was down,
Speaker 5: but it was literally like he showed no nerves. It
Speaker 5: was right before I just see him going like he's
Speaker 5: like legit doing like I need.
Speaker 6: It's like on the line.
Speaker 5: And in the very beginning his fire Saw story, he said,
Speaker 5: this is faulty wood, this isn't working, and he's just good.
Speaker 6: I want one thing.
Speaker 5: After that he was and seeing him stressed for that
Speaker 5: minute was so great.
Speaker 7: Imagine if like the competition was a sit up challenge
Speaker 7: or pull up challenge and all of a sudden I
Speaker 7: take the lead.
Speaker 5: No trust me, Like, look I'm saying, I fully understand.
Speaker 5: I give you props for stepping over the plate, but
Speaker 5: it was so cool.
Speaker 7: Needless to say, it ended and he said, well, I
Speaker 7: aren't gonna need we're gonna.
Speaker 6: Do that again. I'm just like every single episode spoiling.
Speaker 1: You know what was.
Speaker 7: Really like when we leave, When we leave here, we're
Speaker 7: gonna get in the car.
Speaker 6: And he's gonna go that was a really great episode.
Speaker 7: I think like if we did it again right and
Speaker 7: next time we just alternate fruits or I.
Speaker 5: Think Master Sherman's going to be coming back because we're
Speaker 5: doing knife throwing, Wenna, we gotta tap into the sunset.
Speaker 2: Mister is your guy for sure.
Speaker 5: This is where we run into issues a lot though,
Speaker 5: because we come up with a plan and we changed
Speaker 5: it last second, because the we are the ones ultimately
Speaker 5: in control of it, and when we make changes on
Speaker 5: the fly, sometimes we should have stuck with our guts.
Speaker 5: So it's it's hard.
Speaker 7: We need like this is him and I'm gonna give
Speaker 7: you the inside baseball. This is him mad about it
Speaker 7: challenge that he lost yesterday.
Speaker 5: No, it's not the first time it's happened though.
Speaker 6: But but it's like we both agreed.
Speaker 5: To no, no, no, I'm saying that that's the that's
Speaker 5: the danger is like our rules are so flimsy, and
Speaker 5: ultimately I'm making him the day before, so then he's like, oh,
Speaker 5: I don't think this rule's fair, and then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: maybe it isn't. So it's like, ultimately, when the show
Speaker 5: scales up, we need to have like a rule maker,
Speaker 5: and we just show.
Speaker 6: Rule maker that's not on your side.
Speaker 2: That's why today I said, mister Shervin needs to be
Speaker 2: the one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, because then you have.
Speaker 2: Someone who goes all right. I heard the rules myself, yes,
Speaker 2: and now I'll be the person.
Speaker 7: And then I have to give it to mister Sherwin
Speaker 7: because he was a man of loyalty and integrity. When
Speaker 7: when Dylan did not cut the fruit, he said that
Speaker 7: unlike in a previous episode when we were lawn bowling
Speaker 7: and every single advantage went right too.
Speaker 5: But he thinks I said that up. I didn't. I
Speaker 5: showed up. I didn't, and anyone can confirm I don't
Speaker 5: know this guy. It was just I'm my first role.
Speaker 5: He was like, this guy's good and and he he
Speaker 5: sucked out to me. I can't deny that, but he
Speaker 5: thinks I know this guy. Don't.
Speaker 7: Let me just tell you why I think because certain
Speaker 7: challenges we do, right, it's supposed to be even playing field. Yes,
Speaker 7: nobody's supposed to have an advantage. That's true on two
Speaker 7: separate occasions. Now, Dylan's created challenges, and we found out
Speaker 7: after that he has intimate knowledge of the event we
Speaker 7: went to go do. We got to go do ceramics,
Speaker 7: and after the event is own. Oh, Dylan took a
Speaker 7: ceramics class in high school.
Speaker 5: And the thing that he just goes in one ear
Speaker 5: out the other is I've never done the wheel.
Speaker 6: Okay, you did a class in ceramics. I did it.
Speaker 5: I got a c from pinching clay. It was my
Speaker 5: least favorite class I ever did. But I was there
Speaker 5: pinching pots. And he's like, oh he did this, This
Speaker 5: is nollafied. I'm like bogot I did in high school
Speaker 5: as like one of these like things I built about
Speaker 5: fifteen years So.
Speaker 6: When are you gonna tell you told me about it?
Speaker 7: We done a challenge up, we got to build boats
Speaker 7: out of conboy.
Speaker 6: We're gonna race him.
Speaker 9: And then Corny comes in and goes, oh, this is
Speaker 9: just like you did in high school.
Speaker 5: This happen, so what I mean?
Speaker 2: Dylan would never say that like having dance experience in high.
Speaker 6: Te He tried to get me to do a dancing competition.
Speaker 6: Right after he goes, you don't be great. We should
Speaker 6: do a dance off. I'll get my friend. We're can
Speaker 6: do a dance off. Let's do a flex competition.
Speaker 4: Do you need Danny could be the judge?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Danny would judge. Danny would be my partner.
Speaker 2: And uh, you.
Speaker 6: Know you bring someone from home.
Speaker 5: It's so hard to hear me because he does the
Speaker 5: same thing. The amount of time she wanted to do
Speaker 5: an eating competition. Every time we passed up any hard,
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, what if we do a green light
Speaker 5: challenge and whoever can keep the green light on it?
Speaker 6: I'm like, I was fucking challenge. Yeah, are fun?
Speaker 5: Do a beers like it's happens booth what.
Speaker 6: He's just more influential.
Speaker 10: He says, these are special episodes where you guys get
Speaker 10: to pick the you know, like you're gonna do the
Speaker 10: Boston rob episode and it's like three things.
Speaker 4: He gets to pick.
Speaker 5: No, we already did, we already did fire making, but
Speaker 5: he likes the you chose you came up with that
Speaker 5: somehow to loose lose?
Speaker 9: No matter what it is it is, people are going
Speaker 9: to be like, well, of course it's win that Like,
Speaker 9: why are you guys doing everything that's so easy?
Speaker 6: Wrong? It's just bad bad for me? What can I
Speaker 6: pick up?
Speaker 5: We're doing a spelling bee later today, and like somehow
Speaker 5: like I was good in seventh grade and literally you were.
Speaker 6: Good in seventh grade. See what I mean? It's use bad.
Speaker 6: This is why it's.
Speaker 5: Like, what do you think you would think? I'm a
Speaker 5: national spelling be choir.
Speaker 2: Gosh, Rob, I've met your daughters. They're all amazing. Would
Speaker 2: you ever encourage them to be on Survivor if they
Speaker 2: want to?
Speaker 6: Yeah, but not yet.
Speaker 7: Like I really think, like there's a sweet spot you
Speaker 7: have to be you have to have a certain amount
Speaker 7: of life experience to be able to participate in that show. Well,
Speaker 7: I remember the season I won, I went all the
Speaker 7: way to the end with the girl still friends with
Speaker 7: great girl, Natalie Tennarelli. She's only nineteen at the time,
Speaker 7: and she just didn't have enough life experience to navigate,
Speaker 7: you know, the deception all of it. So I think, like,
Speaker 7: you know, at some point, if that's something they want
Speaker 7: to do.
Speaker 6: For sure they could do it. Yeah, I wouldn't stop them.
Speaker 3: Wow, would you ever go on Survivor? You'd kill it
Speaker 3: on Survivor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I grew up loving that show, so I
Speaker 5: think it'd be super fun. But it's it's weird now
Speaker 5: because like that show, they don't cast people that are known,
Speaker 5: so I think unless they did a different version, it
Speaker 5: might just be one of those ones where you would
Speaker 5: get picked up picked out early. I don't know, like
Speaker 5: I don't know they've had.
Speaker 6: You'd be great if you listened. Yeah, you have to
Speaker 6: listen though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like that was my first love of a show,
Speaker 5: like when it Corney still says to this day, like
Speaker 5: she was like, I was convinced You're going to go
Speaker 5: on that show because I was so adamant as a kid.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm gonna go on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but yeah, I like it was the athletic stuff. I
Speaker 5: really like, wanted to go Spearfish, I wanted to go
Speaker 5: Live on an Island. I wanted to do the challenges,
Speaker 5: And the show has evolved a little bit away from
Speaker 5: that stuff that I so.
Speaker 6: But that that is the fun part.
Speaker 7: That's the heart of the show that I loved, even
Speaker 7: though like I'm known for the strategy part and the
Speaker 7: deception and the cutthroat, Like the part that really initially
Speaker 7: drew me to it was exactly what you're talking about,
Speaker 7: the adventure.
Speaker 5: And we were literally just talking about this like strategy wise,
Speaker 5: Like my dream was to go spearfish. Like it's so
Speaker 5: funny for me watching the show as a spear fisherman
Speaker 5: and seeing people like shoot refish and like in three
Speaker 5: Foot of Water, it's like, no, I'd go beyond the
Speaker 5: break in spearfish, But in the show today, you can't
Speaker 5: do that. It's moving so fast that if you go
Speaker 5: out and spearfish for four hours, you're going to be
Speaker 5: voted out there. Yeah, so it's it's so it's it's tough.
Speaker 5: I want to do it. I still want to do it.
Speaker 5: I would play the game as it is for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like I like games where there I love physical challenges.
Speaker 2: I like am up for anything that's a physical challenge.
Speaker 2: The deception, lying stuff would just be I'm like.
Speaker 6: I would.
Speaker 7: She's so smart, but I see it and I call
Speaker 7: you out on that nonsense. Really, but I think like, like,
Speaker 7: remember like when we were kids, there was a show
Speaker 7: Double There.
Speaker 6: Remember that.
Speaker 7: I love that show and I don't like understand how
Speaker 7: anybody would ever not go for the physical challenge Like
Speaker 7: that was like the initial you know idea, and like
Speaker 7: that adventure part of it, the obstacle courses, the it
Speaker 7: brings out your inner kid.
Speaker 5: I think show from a long time ago where it
Speaker 5: was like at the very the last obstacles they had
Speaker 5: to climb up Mount Fuji or or whatever what was
Speaker 5: that so called different teams of like two.
Speaker 6: I used to love that Nickelodeon I think it.
Speaker 5: Was what was it, God, Oh my God, got Agrocrack, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that show and then the one where there was like
Speaker 5: like they would have to go through the jungle and
Speaker 5: then those scary people would pop out. Do you remember
Speaker 5: that one temple though? Like that was my jam. I
Speaker 5: always wanted to do it.
Speaker 7: Like your kids are young, like you're they're at the
Speaker 7: age where they love to go to the park, right,
Speaker 7: Like so I remember when my kids were that young,
Speaker 7: like how much fun they loved going to the park,
Speaker 7: And I always thought like they should do a show
Speaker 7: give it away now, right whatever the playground but for
Speaker 7: adults where you get to play all the games and
Speaker 7: there's some kind of built in challenge to it.
Speaker 5: I think we could do that. Yeah versus teeter chatter.
Speaker 6: How many times?
Speaker 5: How'd you break your back? The speed?
Speaker 6: That's what we'll do with measure.
Speaker 7: We'll get a radar reader who can spin it the
Speaker 7: fast you can spin the other person.
Speaker 4: Who get you.
Speaker 6: That's what you gotta do, and this is our creative process.
Speaker 6: I love.
Speaker 2: Well, I love it, I love you both. Thank you
Speaker 2: for being here. As predicted, I had so much fun
Speaker 2: with Boston, Robb and Dylan that I had to hold
Speaker 2: on to them for a second episode. So stay tuned
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