WEBVTT - Dylan Efron and Boston Rob 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:25.040 That's okay, because no one here is. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.040 It's time once again for Team Beat, the show where 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:34.240 I Danielle Fischl, a podcaster, TV director, eighth place ballroom dancer, 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.479 mom of two, and former child actor, finally get a 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.160 little payback for sharing my own teenage years with millions 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.080 of viewers every week by convincing other celebrities to spill 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:50.280 their most vulnerable and awkward childhood memories. Every week, I 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.760 am sitting with interesting people subjects you know and love, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.720 hoping I can coax them to open up about their 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:01.400 younger selves, the cringe, the chaos, the deep embarrassing stuff, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.679 because I know firsthand that it's an entertaining way to 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.560 reveal who they are today. Also, I just think it's 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.280 the least they can do. I gave you my childhood, 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.919 It's time we hear yours, and this week I'm talking 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.600 to two men living their absolute best lives. As Synonymous 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.000 with Boston as Blake Lively's accent in the town. He 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.160 first burst onto the scene in the fourth season of Survivor, 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.399 where he may have ranked tenth on the show, but 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.360 he finished first in Our Hearts. Often referred to as 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.959 the show's greatest player, he'd return for its eighth season, 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.360 where he placed second, but also proposed to the woman 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.760 who won, his now wife of twenty years, who he 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.880 married in the Bahamas for a two hour special on CBS, so. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.320 Like no one really lost. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.120 He'd go on to participate in a record five seasons, 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.640 taking home the grand prize on Survivor Redemption Island and 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.520 creating a bevy of memorable TV appearances as the greatest 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:06.280 reality show strategist of all time, hoping that one day 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.760 he might just meet a young ninja looking for a 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:14.480 master to lead him to sense status. And then Yoda 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.160 found his Luke Skywalker on the third season of The Traders, 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:22.240 where he met today's other special guest, a young heart 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.360 throb who focused on a faceless career of TV production 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.360 after watching his older brother skyrocket through the Disney Machine 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.480 in the two thousands. But when the Daytime Emmy winning 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.079 creator finally decided to step in front of the camera 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.840 for Off the Grid, a YouTube series he did with 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:42.040 his brother, everything changed. He found himself not only competing 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.720 on Traders and meeting his new platonic life mate, but 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:49.760 walking away as a winner and a new social media sensation. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.800 Then he was my fellow dance competitor on the pop 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.040 culture juggernaut that is season thirty four of Dancing with 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.400 the Stars, going viral and finishing fourth, finally ending the 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.799 title he actually wanted People Magazine's Sexiest tattoo. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.320 Sure, these two. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:11.000 Reality TV titans are cool now, but I can tell 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.160 deep down they're just two boys with a plethora of 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.240 mortifying stories from high school. So please welcome to Team 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:22.359 Beat the modern day, Wayne and Garth, Dylan Ephron and 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.560 Boston Rob Mariano. 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:30.440 Can appreciation for how good that was? I say podcast, 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:32.880 and I'm blown away every time. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.840 Like the whole time it was happening, I was like, 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:36.800 what is going on? 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.880 It's insane, Like the talent, Yeah, it's unbelievable. It is 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.440 so good. The first podcast I was on with her, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.240 I was like, do you have nearly audiobooks? Because I 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:48.040 want to listen to one. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.280 I thought it was like we were like like one 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.320 of those romance novels. You listen to the start one 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.200 and then I was like, wait, what is this is? 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:59.000 And then also this podcast about sharing our feelings. Someone 0:03:59.040 --> 0:03:59.920 forgot to tell me that. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:03.720 Didn't give him the. 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:10.720 Okay, you know the strategy? 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.280 Oh, boys, I am thrilled to have what I've just 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.840 decided is my reality show alliance. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.560 The three of We've never really. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.840 Your show, your your web series is the first time 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.680 we had to work together, and yet we were still 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:24.440 on opposing. 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.360 You're working hard. You got a Boston, Massachusetts. You know. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.640 I had to mutter you up because I mentioned that, like, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:37.320 how do I get in? 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:37.840 How do I work? 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:40.240 We'll see how it goes. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.920 So for those keeping score at home, I have forced 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.360 their friendship into a trio and I'm just totally. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:46.520 Fine with it. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.119 So first, since I am sitting with two reality show 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.520 strategy legends, I wanted to know. Were you both always 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:55.479 competitive as kids? 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.920 Oh? Yeah, I love My parents still say it to 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.320 this day. I used to cheat it yai like YACHTSI 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:03.960 is hard to cheat on. You gotta wait till they 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:08.119 look away. Yeah, I hated to lose. 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:10.640 I was like oldest child. 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.239 I had a brother, a younger brother and younger sister 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.320 and grew up in Boston and like, nobody let me 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:21.680 get away with anything. So it was like constantly you 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.800 have to earn it, and like if you wanted to 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:24.120 be on. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.400 Top, you had to be competitive. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.920 You also played hockey right. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:29.680 Still, I still play hockey. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.000 Did you play at Boston University? 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.000 I did not play at Boston University. 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.799 What's it's like the Senior World Cup or something. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:45.039 Yeah, yeah, all American sixty fifty, the Older Person League 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:50.599 in Florida, the ARP Cup. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.320 Did you win the aar P Cup. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:56.680 I'm working on it. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.360 I'm working on It's surprisingly good. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.360 What was teenage Boston? 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:02.680 Rob? 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.400 Like, I imagine in fourth grade you just ran like a 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:06.679 weekly poker night or something. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.479 Not far after enough fourth grade, but probably like sixth 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.760 seventh grade, we started playing cards. Yeah, and it wasn't poker, 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.480 but it was like those other games. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.600 But mostly sports. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.359 I mean ever since I was a kid, Like I 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.479 learned to skate when I was like two years old, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:29.359 Like I played hockey, played baseball, basketball, football, like every 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.840 sport all the time. And really I think like that's 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.360 what my parents did to keep me out of any 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:36.760 other trouble that was going on. 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.160 So I was lucky enough. I had a mom that. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.320 Would wake up at five point thirty in the morning 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.640 on the weekends and drive us all over the state 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.520 and played lots lots of hockey and sports. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:48.800 Were do you feel like you were always good at 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.039 reading people, you know. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:52.440 I don't know. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:56.680 I think like I've always been observant, and my dad 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.320 was like a really good negotiator, like he was in 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:03.440 real estate stuff, so I would watch him. But I 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.320 think a lot of it's innate. I don't think a 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.200 lot of people can learn how. 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.880 To like like like, either you got it you don't. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.920 I think because I've tried to tell people, and some 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.240 people more receptive on paying attention to different things. Yeah, 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.520 but other people just naturally see it. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.679 Yeah, you're good at reading social cues and picking little 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:25.240 things up. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.360 I like to tease a lot, you know, could get 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:29.040 the upper hand. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.280 Dylan, did you have childhood hobbies? 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.720 Yeah? Sports. Everything he was just saying was like I 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.120 was playing year round soccer, year on baseball. It was 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.000 like if I wasn't playing, I was at the sports field, 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.880 like playing wiffle wall and it was just year round 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.560 some sport. I was never the best at any of them, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.440 like that was pretty good, an all star and most 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.240 of them, but I was never the best player on 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.040 the team. My talent was that I could pick up 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.800 any sport really quick. So it was like I when 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.640 the east ball got too frustrating. Like I was just like, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.800 all right, I'm over this. So it took us so 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.360 much time. I was like, I'm gonna go to tennis. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.480 And I made the varsity team for tennis. So it's 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.120 like I could pick up sports really quick. Okay, So 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.680 it was volleyball, it was tennis, it was soccer, it 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.240 was baseball, whatever sport that yet, dancing, whatever sport it was, 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.600 I could pick up good. I was never the best. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.360 Okay, when did you start really like truly caring about fitness, 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:24.680 Like did you guys grow up. 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:25.480 With a home gym? 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.680 That was something I like, my brother would come home 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.960 because I was like, growing up, I was big for 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.600 my age and Zach was shorter. So then Zach took 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.000 off hit puberty, was all of a sudden, came back 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:38.800 and had muscles, so that I could see that, like, 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.120 oh you can actually get muscles. So like I would 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.360 just work out with him. See what he was doing. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.960 He's always reading fitness magazines. This is back like early 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.160 two thousands or whatever. So it was like he's literally 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.559 reading the magazines for workouts, and I would just copy him. So, okay, 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.199 that's when I started getting to the gym and again 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.320 when sports, it started to help. Like I started to 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.079 put up I was six a buck fifty and then 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:03.360 I started putting on muscle. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.760 Yeah, you know it's funny like I had like almost 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.200 the opposite. So I was the older brother and my 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:12.560 younger brother grew first, and he was bigger than me 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.600 at one point, like three inches taller and played on 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.480 like a different hockey team, and he was like the star, 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.160 and I was like second fiddle, and then I caught up, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.600 and you know, like but it was always cool, Like 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.200 I always hear you tell the story about your older 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.320 brother and how much like you always like looked up 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.680 to him and stuff in a weird kind of way. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.480 Like my younger brother when he. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.840 Was bigger than me, he always still respected me as 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.199 the older brother. Yeah, and like to this day, we 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.000 like still have a great relationship. Yeah, it's my poor 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.240 sister got dragged around the state for all the hockey 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.160 games and we put her in net and played goalie. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.400 We made her play goalie. But but yeah, it's it's 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:53.319 similar but different. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.720 Yeah, and I think that if it worked in both 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.920 of our advantages. It was like I was tall, I 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.200 was in like athletics, so I straight into sports. Zach 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.760 was more in the arts, right, And when you're younger 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.920 brothers competing with you in basketball and winning, it's like, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.720 maybe that's not your sport. That leans into what he's good. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.520 It was good for us both when you were really little. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.680 Did your parents try to separate? Like I have two sons, 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.280 which is why I'm asking this question, and they're two 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.640 years apart, and both of them, will they like the 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.560 same thing, or at least they think they like the 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:23.880 same thing. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.200 Oh, Adler's favorite color is blue. 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.840 Keaton's favorite color is blue. And I'm really trying to 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.520 encourage them that, like, it doesn't have to be your 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.560 favorite color though, like green could be your favorite color. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.520 And for a long time it was bothering out there 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.120 that he's like everything I like, Keaton likes and now 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:43.080 they're starting to find their own things. Did your parents 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.079 nurture that or did they like encourage. 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.640 You guys to do a lot four and a half 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.040 years apart, so I think it's it was different. It 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.200 was almost exact opposite you think I like blue. It 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.440 was it was almost like, yeah, I think we we 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:00.240 were so different a lot of those ways, so that like, yeah, 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.400 my brother was in plays and stuff. I was like, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.280 there's no chances, no way my friends didn't go to 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.080 Like I was always shocked on like how is my 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.679 brother making plays cool when I'm in high school and 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.120 plays aren't cool? It was it was just like is 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:16.320 it a different era? Is it wasn't my brother stuff 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.000 like that? So like, yeah, we didn't have too many 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:20.360 overlap in our hobbies. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:37.760 I see, give me the worst fashion decisions that young 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.920 Dylan Efron and young Rob Marianno made? 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:42.280 What did what was. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:43.960 Like when you think back and you think of those 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.280 family photos. 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:51.040 Listen, my style is the sane. It hasn't changed in 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.840 forty years. That's the problem. I still rock the white 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.800 ald white Adida Shelto's jeans, a black T shirt or 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.000 dark T shirt and a back. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.320 But dad, it's a classic thing. It's like my dad. 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.400 My dad's dressed the same for so long that the 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:10.040 style's back now. But now he's changing. I mean he's 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.520 in card shirts. I was like, no, go back to what. 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:15.160 It was cool. I mean fashion was never really like 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:16.600 a thought for me. 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.319 I can't say that there was a period of time 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:25.320 like probably like middle school to early high school where 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:29.200 like there was a fancy pair of jeans called jibbo jeans, 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:30.800 and everybody wanted them. 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.080 And do you ever have some Zekavalricci's. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:33.719 I didn't have that. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.640 I didn't have them, but some of the kids did. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.360 But like, I mean, it wasn't really something I really 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:39.960 thought about. 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.360 I did in high school, you know how you get 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.880 like yearbook awards or whatever. I was best dressed and 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.520 in my photo I was wearing cutoff cords and a flannel. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.280 I say my biggest fashion faux pa was my hair 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.760 because I had long hair, like long hair, like the 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.600 long hair was feminine looking hair as a like in 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.360 my middle school years where I'm looking feminine already, so 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.720 it was like that set. Yeah, I don't think long 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:11.679 hair was the choice. I loved it. I love being 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.600 different in that way. But yeah, it was like until 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.079 I started looking a little more masculine. Probably wasn't the move. 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.280 Were you wearing Converse in your best dressed photo? 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.960 I feel like I bet or Vans probably, Yeah, Van's 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.760 brown cut off cord in a flannel. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.160 Well, I won best hair for my high school. Yeah, thanks, 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.320 back in nineteen ninety nine. That was that was my 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:34.679 super superlative. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.000 I think hair for guys. Is one of those things that, 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.400 at least for me, like I would never have noticed 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.560 hair as a kid, like some of the. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.600 Things I don't have. I have plenty of hair. 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.520 You've got hair, But as you get older and hair 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.320 is like hot, you're like, oh, she gotta good hair. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.040 That is not like high school. You're not looking at hair. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.640 It's a wired mature it is. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.400 So you start noticing you like, you know, he's got 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.200 a good hairs Lauren from Dancing with the Stars. I 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.800 was standing next to one regular Yeah. I was like, oh, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.400 you got great hair, and she's like, wow, how many 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.320 people tell you that that's really good? 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.240 I know she's gorgeous hair. 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.320 I have admitted that my first kiss is on television. 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.960 I had never kissed a boy before that very first 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.000 episode of Boy Meets World where I had to slam 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.840 a young Ben Savage up against a locker and kiss him. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:23.880 So my first kiss happened in front of my parents 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.400 because we didn't rehearse it during the week, so when 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.320 we taped it in front of the live studio audience, 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.680 my parents and my grandparents were present for my first 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.040 real kiss. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.880 I want to hear about your first kisses what was 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.800 your first kiss? How old were you take it? 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.040 I remember my first kiss. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:48.440 I was in sixth grade, okay, and school we just 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.120 moved from I grew up in like a part of 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.080 the city of Boston, and my parents moved to like 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:53.840 the suburbs. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:55.040 So it was the. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:59.240 End of sixth grade, year before summer, and I had 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.440 a girlfriend and it was supposed to be you know, 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.760 summer was coming, and to make it official, I had 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.880 to give her a kiss. And I remember we went 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.600 there was a lake by the house, and I was 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.720 so nervous, I remember, and I just went. We went 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.880 for a walk down by the lake and I kissed there. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.680 Did she just like A I don't know, Like I 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.440 think she probably wanted it a lot longer than I did. So, no, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.960 like the first real kiss, that's what you're talking about, 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:33.360 real causs real like French kiss. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:37.120 No, I haven't. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.280 I haven't heard it a while, But now I'm been 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.120 visiting him with all his his Boston bros. Be like 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.240 bro friend's kissed through. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.200 It was like it was like it was like how 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.200 to go You're good? Yeah, yeah good? But leading up 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:51.120 to it us so nice? 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:52.280 Did you kiss her? 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:57.520 Yeah? Friends kissing? We didn't have to say that. That 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:58.400 was understood. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:02.680 Bro, just bragging your body. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.920 This is a friendship based on heat. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.120 We're compeding against each other too much, though. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.040 All right, what's what's your first kid? 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.800 I'm nearly positive I was at a dance in seventh 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.560 grade and it was like classic grinding and stuff. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:28.800 Like that grinding, sweetish grinding. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.960 I was definitely the last sweet spot where it was 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.280 like every dance was just grinding and there's always like 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.600 chaperones like hey, separate, separate. Yeah, but yeah, I think 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.600 it was grinding. And then we turned around and had 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:45.359 a little little action, a little. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.440 Friend we called action something else that came later. 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:50.920 Mine wasn't full French. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:55.280 It was like like like uncomfortable talking about. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:17:00.320 All of this, like like you didn't tell me about 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.960 it beforehand. I can't say it was a great I 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.040 wasn't full friends yet. 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:06.960 That's work to do. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.200 It wasn't full full French. 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.359 Okay, all right, would you guys have called yourselves cool 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:14.119 in high school? 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:20.280 No? Yeah, I think I had really I had cool friends. Yeah, 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:25.080 and I think I was. I could go both sides. 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:26.320 It was kind of a dork too. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:27.720 Okay, So what made you a door? 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.040 Like I still like wanted to get good grades. I 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.919 remember like and it just depends on the year. Like 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.280 I think my dorkist year was probably seventh grade, and 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.760 I remember I would like skip recess just go into 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.200 like like I was. It was like that age where 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.320 you're like writing poems and like and stuff like that. 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:44.600 Loved writing age. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.640 I don't even I don't even know. He's like trying 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.480 to think if my ears are actually working. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.240 Yeah, like is there a stage where you go through 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:53.040 writing poems? 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.800 I loved writing. It was like I would like go 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:56.960 there early to start. 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.280 Writing, other than like when your teachers teaching you about 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:00.920 different high and showed and you have. 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.560 To like, yeah, I loved it. See, Like so I 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.400 was a little dorky, but then I had really cool 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.560 friends too, so I was like, it just depends on 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.680 a year. I had some super dorky years and I 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.840 had some ones where I felt cooler. 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:14.000 You must have been cool. 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.959 I felt I always felt like in the middle, like 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.800 I did, like like there were always some kids that 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.040 were like way cooler, but I wasn't like on the bottom. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:23.960 Like I always felt in the middle. 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.399 And I think like growing up like my parents like 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.000 they made a conscious effort to always make sure that 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.240 we were kind of like in the middle of like 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.640 you know, like where we lived, like how much they 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.000 gave us, how much you know, like we did we 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.359 had to work for like stuff, but also like you know, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:45.000 not on the extreme. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:46.360 And I think that helped a lot. 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.800 That's really smart. You don't ever want to be an outlier. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:50.160 I think it's hard. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.359 Yeah, would you two have been friends in high school? 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.200 I think maybe yeah, we would. 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.640 I think we would have over sports. Yeah, I think 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.720 it was or thro would have, and then we probably 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:04.320 just would have got separated when I went to like 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.159 the ap classes and. 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.960 I was actually a wicked smart So Dylan doesn't even know. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.640 I actually is a true story. I had a scholarship 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.479 to go to Harvard University as an undergrad for of 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.800 physics and as a junior in high school. 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:22.400 And I went and I took the. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.840 College level class, the physics class at Harvard when I 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.840 was a junior in high school. And he's wondering whether 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:29.960 or not that's true or not. 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:31.320 But it is, so I believe it's true. 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.320 Yeah, wow, physics. 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.560 Yes, I loved Like see, here's the thing I never 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:41.200 knew what like different professions were, which is ridiculous to 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.879 think about. But when I went to college, like I 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.960 didn't know what an engineer did. If I did, I 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.360 would have been an engineer because I love that kind 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.439 of stuff, Like I have that kind of brain and stuff. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.359 But I thought an engineer was someone that drove a 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.800