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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty, I'm strong and Getty and

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Speaker 2: now he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: With our leader up there, my hero da Gladiator. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna bring America back together, one real American at a time.

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Speaker 2: Brother, I'm not supposed to be here tonight. I'm supposed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a celebrity death breaking news. Hunk Hulgan

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Speaker 1: has been given a sleeper hold by God. He is

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Speaker 1: dead at age seventy one.

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Speaker 4: Ah, it's unfortunate way to phrase.

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Speaker 1: It, but well, was that the clip for was that

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Speaker 1: the clip from the convention where he pulled his shirt off?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was that was that was the

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Speaker 1: big moment. I was in the hall at the time,

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Speaker 1: and I knew he was close to death then because

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Speaker 1: he really struggled to tear apart in that like obviously

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Speaker 1: when he showed that he was wearing his tank top

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Speaker 1: and Trump and blah blah blah, hul covid and uh.

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Speaker 2: Well, wondery struggled. He was less than a year from

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Speaker 2: the grave. Right, he's seventy one years old. He's dead.

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Speaker 1: It says of cardiac arrest, any gonna be And he

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Speaker 1: mentioned at any point of a lifetime of steroid use

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Speaker 1: in any role that played, perhaps in is uh untimely passing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're you're quicker than the average person to go

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Speaker 4: into condemning and s talking to dead as people usually

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Speaker 4: observe like five minutes of respect. So yes, I think

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Speaker 4: we'll get to the steroids at some point. Just as

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Speaker 4: a quick aside, I have a text string with a

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Speaker 4: couple of my former bandmates and we still play and

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Speaker 4: record now again, but that we just if a prominent

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Speaker 4: musician dies, we just send the picture to each other.

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Speaker 4: Then it's like, oh no, really, well, Rich just sent

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Speaker 4: both Chuck Mangioni and Hulk Hogan. Chuck Mangoni died, Well,

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Speaker 4: he texted the picture anyway, I said, musicians okay, alright,

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Speaker 4: So I said, I said musicians only please, and he replied,

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Speaker 4: don't tell me you didn't hear Hulk Hogan's Hulkamania song. Right,

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Speaker 4: I was looking at his Wikipedia and years ago, if

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Speaker 4: we could come up.

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Speaker 2: With the Hulkamania song, that would be fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Here's act what he did occupations it has musician Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 1: I did not realize that he also would sex up

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Speaker 1: your wife if you if you ask him to. According

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Speaker 1: to that that video that came out, is that the

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Speaker 1: Bubba the love spoech Yes, yes, where Bubba the Love

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Speaker 1: Sponge is just walking around in the bedroom. Well, the

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Speaker 1: Hulk gives it to his old lady odd lifestyle, I

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Speaker 1: would say, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say so, Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's a little uh something from the past to

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Speaker 1: when he was mostly known as a wrestler nationwide. He

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Speaker 1: was the biggest name in all of wrestling for a while,

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Speaker 1: right way way way back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the Biggs names in entertainment. Yeah, here

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Speaker 1: Hogan made his way to w w E and McMahon

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Speaker 1: knew he had struck gold.

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Speaker 2: The date was the.

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Speaker 5: Twenty third of January nineteen eighty four, and it was

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Speaker 5: Hulk Hogan going off against the Iron Sheet and the

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Speaker 5: joint was crazy and I had a feeling that fans

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Speaker 5: knew something big was about to wear.

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Speaker 2: Rough Hay cut up. He's done for the Wait a second,

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Speaker 2: that's because there more, Michael. That's the iron chic. That's

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Speaker 2: not George Foreman Beaten Frasier.

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Speaker 1: So what you're saying is the people that run the

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Speaker 1: WWF decided they needed a different star, so orchestrated the

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Speaker 1: result where Hulk Hogan would be the new winner. I

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Speaker 1: mean correct, Why did you act like that was some

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Speaker 1: sort of upset sporting event. That's pretty funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the trappings of the thing.

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Speaker 4: He became the new fan favorite, the new star, but

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Speaker 4: he wasn't a he beat down that evil probably Muslim

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Speaker 1: I've never been into the wrestling, I just barely know

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Speaker 1: anything about it. But Hulk Hogan wasn't a heel, was

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Speaker 1: he? He was a good guy, isn't he?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he was a hero mostly.

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Speaker 4: There may have been some plot twists momentarily, because they'll

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Speaker 4: make you a bad guy briefly then bring it.

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Speaker 2: It's like a soap opera. It's very much like a

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Speaker 1: By the way, Fox is going wall to wall on

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Speaker 1: Hulk or Hulk Hogan coverage. They're now showing clips from

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Speaker 1: which Rocky did Rocky fight Hulk Hogan. I guess that

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Speaker 1: But that's a movie full of big time talent. But

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Speaker 1: the brightest moment for that franchise, right, Rocky had to

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Speaker 1: fight Hulk Hogan. At one point in Rocky three. I

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Speaker 1: had a brush of great with greatness with Hulk Hogan

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Speaker 1: at Sturgis, the motorcycle rally back in the day. I

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Speaker 1: pulled my big Harley into a spot next to a

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Speaker 1: big muscle dude in a tank top and he got

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Speaker 1: holy crap, it was Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 2: And I said, oh, okay, what's up man. I chook

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Speaker 2: hands with him and knees. How are you doing? Brother?

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Speaker 2: He clapped me on the back and we both walked

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Speaker 4: The Great Terry Bully had to look up his real name,

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Speaker 4: Terry jane O Leah.

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Speaker 1: He's seventy one years old. He just got married eighteen

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Speaker 1: months ago to some woman, so they didn't have a

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Speaker 1: very long marriage. Sky Daly is her name. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: a performer name. But in a minute now, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to judge. Actually I am the first to judge. You

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Speaker 1: just judged, yell, literally judge a lot. He would by

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Speaker 1: a lot of different names throughout his life. I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize this, Hollywood Hogan, Hollywood Hulk Hogan, Hulk Boulder, Hulk Hogan,

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Speaker 1: which most of us known by Hulk Machine, Mister America,

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Speaker 1: Sterling Golden, Terry Boulder, the Super and Destroyer, all his

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Speaker 1: names at various points in his career. Sterling Golden, he

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Speaker 1: was uh six foot seven, three hundred pounds.

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Speaker 2: That's a big guy. That is a big dude.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember him being that giant when we got

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Speaker 1: off the motorcycle, So I wonder if there's any chance

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Speaker 1: that's an exaggeration. It's the you'd hate to see a

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Speaker 2: Or grow it artificially. I don't remember being that big.

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Speaker 1: I think that'll actually be a pretty interesting conversation if

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Speaker 1: he gets into a lifetime of steroid use and whether

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Speaker 1: or not that contributed to him dying of a heart

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Speaker 1: atack at age seventy one, because he's obviously very fit

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Speaker 1: looking for a seventy one year old. He did struggle

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Speaker 1: to rip off his T shirt, but then he did

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Speaker 1: his poses. And I mean not every seventy one year old,

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Speaker 2: Old books like that. Oh no, indeed, yeah, or every

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Speaker 2: twenty five year old for that matter. How do you miss?

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Speaker 1: How did he end up being such a big part

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Speaker 1: of the conservative circles just because he is a Republican?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I guess how long has that been? He

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Speaker 4: is very much a recognized icon of working class middle America.

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Speaker 2: I seem an entertainers. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Michael Left.

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Speaker 2: Is this him singing? Is this a song about him?

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Speaker 6: He doesn't sing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good message, America, keep it going.

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Speaker 2: So what is this sort of listening to? This is

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Speaker 2: a theme thong when he goes into the ring.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so when he walks into the ring, they

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Speaker 1: played this I'm a real American Hulk Hogan's theme. He

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Speaker 1: started wearing the do rag when he began losing his hair,

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Speaker 1: as a lot of people do hats or do rags,

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Speaker 1: but he still had the blonde locks and took the

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Speaker 1: onto his blonde hair well into his seventies, not that

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Speaker 1: well into his seventies. He's seventy one and he's dead

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Speaker 1: as a hammer. But uh, how did that videotape come

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Speaker 1: out with Bubba the Love Sponge.

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Speaker 2: That's that.

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Speaker 1: That was an inglorious end. I mean that that's not

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Speaker 1: what you want out there.

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Speaker 4: No, it was the grubbiness and the oddness that struck

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Speaker 4: one more than any of the.

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Speaker 1: Second Oh it's not sexy. There's nothing sexy about that.

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Speaker 1: I remember he's so he's in bed with Bubba Love

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Speaker 1: Sponge's wife. Why did this become a I don't even

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Speaker 1: remember why this became a court case, and.

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Speaker 2: Now there was a lawsuit.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember who was swing home, but I'm thinking

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Speaker 4: of it was a huge deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if a.

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Speaker 4: Famous wrastler is is administering the love hold to my wife,

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Speaker 4: I'm either gonna be watching it because that's how I

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Speaker 4: get my jolly, I'm going to be doing something else.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be in the house. Well, that was

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Speaker 4: Bob was just kind of wandering in and out of

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Speaker 4: the room like he can't find his glasses while Hulk

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Speaker 4: Hogan is banging his wife.

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Speaker 1: And at some point, I mean Hulk stops and is

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Speaker 1: burping and says, I ate way too much for dinner tonight,

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Speaker 1: which I thought, what kind.

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Speaker 2: Of a deal. What is going on here?

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Speaker 1: Is anybody interested in this being sexy?

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Speaker 2: Right? Right? Excuse me? Guess I just kid? Where do

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Speaker 2: I leave my book? Honey? The one I was reading? Oh,

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Speaker 2: should tether it to my arm.

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Speaker 1: Good Lord Hanson says he's disgusted by this obituary that

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Speaker 1: you're doing. Hanson, our executive producer, is disgusted by your obituary.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Hanson grew up iylightsotelights.

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Speaker 1: He got the best one I've heard either. Hulk was

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Speaker 1: a big part of his youth in the Midwest. I Uh,

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Speaker 1: I think I was too old. I think I'm missed

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Speaker 1: the Hulk mania. I certainly was never a Hulk maniac.

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Speaker 1: I would never have described myself that way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just thought the whole rattling thing was stupid.

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Speaker 4: And now I get it. I get it more than

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Speaker 4: I used to.

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Speaker 1: We have Well, he's a two time WWE Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's like winning an oscar. Honestly, he was an entertainer,

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Speaker 4: and he was the entertainer of the year in his

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Speaker 4: field A couple of times that's exactly what it means.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's another clip.

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Speaker 6: He wrote, your hero, everybody's hero.

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Speaker 3: The character of Hulk Hogan is impassable. It always has been.

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Speaker 3: There are no holes in this character at all. The

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Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan character has brought me, Terry Bowley up and

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Speaker 3: made me a much better person.

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Speaker 1: Hulk Hogan wouldn't be Hulk Holgan without w w E.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think WWE would be where it is

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Speaker 1: today without Hulk Hogan. For you, no doubt that kind

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Speaker 1: of relationship. I can name like two of the big

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Speaker 1: time wrestlers throughout history, and Hulk Hogan's won.

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Speaker 4: Them right, right, And I think that's a nice cap

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Speaker 4: on this overly long retrospective look back that's redundant.

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Speaker 2: At the great hul Cogan. What do you think Bubba

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Speaker 2: the Love Sponge thought when he heard the apparently folks?

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Speaker 1: Yes, what do you think Bubba the Love Sponge, who

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Speaker 1: was a disc jockey thought when he heard the news

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Speaker 1: that Hulk Hogan is dead?

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Speaker 1: At some point there's going to be a lawsuit, and

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Speaker 1: then regulations and lawyers will get involved, and it'll be

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Speaker 1: like your ladder that's got fifty warnings on it, you know,

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Speaker 1: do not dance the somba while drunk on the top

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Speaker 1: step or whatever they've got to say on that because

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Speaker 1: lawyers told them to on your ladder. Are all these

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Speaker 1: chatbots going to be like this with a long long

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Speaker 1: list of all this crap?

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Speaker 2: What an interesting question? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So, but I was thinking, if I asked Chadji or

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Speaker 1: five persent in those same symptoms chat GPT, I think

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Speaker 1: I would get a very different answer. I think it

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Speaker 1: would say it sounds like you're having a manneque episode.

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Speaker 1: That could be a serious problem. You should blah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to in the case of this dude, it

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Speaker 1: just like YadA YadA YadA.

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Speaker 2: Did so are you hot?

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Speaker 4: If so, please send me pictures of yourself in various

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Speaker 4: stages of a No, no, no, that's a joke. Neon

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Speaker 4: Coat an app that's all about free stuff for hot people.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about that when we come back.

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Speaker 1: I listened to a long podcast yesterday with the one

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Speaker 1: of your AI experts, his main theme being nobody, he said,

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Speaker 1: and I mean taught people a different topic. It's the

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Speaker 1: old topic, he said, nobody, and I mean nobody. He's

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Speaker 1: written some of the big books on AI. Has any

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Speaker 1: idea where this is going? Nobody, he said, I don't either,

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Speaker 1: And I spent my entire life dedicated to learning this.

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Speaker 2: Nobody has any idea where this is going. This will

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Speaker 2: be interesting, won't it be interesting? Okay?

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Speaker 1: That stuff Joe mentioned next. I just asked chat GBT

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Speaker 1: a question about computing power and Moore's Law and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that, and it said, great question.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: I don't need my non sentient chat bot saying great question.

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Speaker 2: It's weird. It's weird.

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Speaker 4: It was pleasing it first, now it's getting weird anyway.

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Speaker 4: A quick note, Groc on the Mac is in the browser.

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Speaker 4: You can get the app. I just refreshed my app

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Speaker 4: and opened it, and there's a free version of everything.

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Speaker 2: So chat gpt lied to me. Yes it did, or

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Speaker 2: it was just wrong, or it was bad.

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Speaker 1: It was lied on purpose because it's chat gpt, which

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Speaker 1: is a competitor of Groc.

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Speaker 2: Who knows right?

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Speaker 4: And my buddy the Apple expert says Jack should use

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Speaker 4: it since it will be in as Tesla's zon. Groc

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Speaker 4: is awesome, cool, And I just asked it a basic question.

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Speaker 2: That came through in a really interesting way.

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Speaker 1: I'll jump on it today. I'll do both next time

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Speaker 1: I ask a question and compare them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, indeed, how do you build a successful small business?

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Speaker 4: For some, the answer is simple, get hot people to

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Speaker 4: show up. New app, newish app called neon Coat. The

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Speaker 4: idea is, if you're a hot person an influencer, you

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Speaker 4: have a following and you're willing to post about your

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Speaker 4: visit to a restaurant a club.

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Speaker 2: But whatever, I'll let you in for free. Here's a managing.

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Speaker 1: Partner of a hot restaurant in the West Village. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the second part makes sense to me. The first part

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Speaker 1: is what doesn't make sense to me. You're hot and

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Speaker 1: you have a following. See that part doesn't make sense

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Speaker 1: to me, since there are hot people everywhere. The second

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Speaker 1: part makes sense that if someone does have a following

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Speaker 1: as a restaurant, why I would let you in for free.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've got to admit a mystified by the hole. She's

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Speaker 4: really hot. I'm going to follow her and look at

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Speaker 4: her pictures all the time. I get finding a particular

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Speaker 4: woman particularly attractive. I'm a heterosexual, I get it. But

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Speaker 4: I get it's like a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 2: Well bar tonight, there'll be ten of them there, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know. Yeah. Well, and then the

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Speaker 2: whole young women who follow fashion and makeup influencers because

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Speaker 2: they want to look like them or whatever. That strikes

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Speaker 2: me as a bit sad too. I'm just thinking about

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Speaker 2: myself as a younger man. I mean, if Instagram had existed,

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Speaker 2: and like a George Clooney type character was giving fashion

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Speaker 2: and grooming tips for men. What I follow that?

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Speaker 4: I know, because I think I would immediately recognize, Oh,

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Speaker 4: he's just trying to sell me stuff, right, And I

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Speaker 4: don't look like George Clooney, So what are you doing here?

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Speaker 4: But I don't you know that's me anyway. So there's

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Speaker 4: this guy who's a managing partner in a hot West

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Speaker 4: Village restaurant in New York. He says it's an extraordinarily

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Speaker 4: competitive market. The energy in the room is really what

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Speaker 4: this business is about, and with that in mind, he

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Speaker 4: offers thirty to forty free meals a month to models

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Speaker 4: and influencers using an app called neon Coat. Quote, you

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Speaker 4: fill the room with young, influential and good looking people,

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Speaker 4: and then as part of the deal, they share social

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Speaker 4: media pop.

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Speaker 2: That part makes perfectly good sense. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: While regularly regular looking people fiercely compete for tables on

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Speaker 4: this other app, models and influencers say they can book

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Speaker 4: an entire day of meals and experiences on neon Coat.

533
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Speaker 4: What's more, of the dinner's salon appointments, fitness classes, and

534
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Speaker 4: tarot readings available on the app are typically free in

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Speaker 4: exchange for the social media post.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on being born symmetrical and getting free tarot readings.

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Speaker 2: I'm so envious. Boy, you got life licked, don't you.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: So here's this former model and actress in influencer travel

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Speaker 4: Hatty whatever the hell she is after moving from a

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Speaker 4: small town in Slovenia. They bring them hot in Slovenia. Oh,

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Speaker 4: that's where the first lady's from. Right, uh, a lot

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Speaker 4: to New York City for her career. When she was

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Speaker 4: a teenager, she said her agency gave her only three

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars a week as a stipend, even though her

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Speaker 4: day rate was ten thousand dollars at the time. For

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Speaker 4: everything from dining out to making routine appointments, she depended

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Speaker 4: on promoters and agents bah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But so she.

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Speaker 4: Launched this app a number of years ago with two

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Speaker 4: co founders.

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Speaker 2: That's a good idea.

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Speaker 1: I thought it really is a good idea. I thought

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Speaker 1: Milania was from Levitra. Well, that it's an allergy medis No.

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Speaker 4: It is a good idea assuming people are stupid and

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Speaker 4: easily influenced.

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Speaker 2: But they are and they are, so it's a good

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Speaker 2: idea period.

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Speaker 1: Just because I don't want it to be true doesn't

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Speaker 1: make it less true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I wrote a song once about being in a club

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Speaker 4: where they try to score in three shirts. And I

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Speaker 4: wrote that line in like the nineties, so that was

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Speaker 4: really or the yearly two thousand so, and I just

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Speaker 4: it was terrible. But I could see if you are

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Speaker 4: that sort of person and are getting on your social

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Speaker 4: media feed, Holy crap, look at all the hot, fashionable

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Speaker 4: people at that restaurant.

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Speaker 2: That's the restaurant for me. I get that.

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Speaker 4: Here's a travel content creator who posted a video on

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Speaker 4: Tiktac TikTok with that incredibly annoying hyper speed editing showing

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Speaker 4: how she filled an entire day with neon coat offers,

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Speaker 4: from a free green juice in the morning to a

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Speaker 4: workout class to her eyebrows laminated, which is a thing apparently. Well,

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Speaker 4: then she got a glass wine, then dinner.

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Speaker 7: I'll save what I was going to say for my

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Speaker 7: final thought. Ready, Yeah, here's your host for final thoughts,

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Speaker 7: Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps it will influence you.

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Speaker 4: Let's begin with Michaelangelo or technical director Michael.

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Speaker 1: Got Malcolm, Jamal Warner, You got Haul Coogan, Ozzy Osbourne,

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Speaker 1: Chuck MANGIONI.

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Speaker 2: I think God is starting at cable network Wow or

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Speaker 2: a season of Dancing with the Stars or something.

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Speaker 4: Katie Green will be returning soon. We hope she is

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Speaker 4: off today, Jack, Do you have a final thought for.

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Speaker 1: My final thought is shame the show is over, because

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Speaker 1: I'd just love to hear more quotes from really hot

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Speaker 1: young women and how great and easy their lives are.

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Speaker 2: I just really enjoy that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, really good stuff. I can't Is Hanson ready to

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Speaker 4: deliver a guest final thought? No, no, okay, I thought

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Speaker 4: we were. We talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: My final thought was really enjoyed the very heavy but

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Speaker 4: sentencing of the sub human scumbag in Idaho.

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Speaker 2: And that was an hour two of the show.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the best thing I've heard on

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Speaker 1: that topic in the last twenty four hours. Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: And now the show is over. Boy, thank you for

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