1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show gets going right now, we have breaking 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: news from yesterday. I guess that's not really breaking news anymore, 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: but it's fun to say. And as we've promised you 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: all along, especially from now until election day, we will 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: focus on the economy, crime, the border, COVID policies, accountability 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: for decision making of the Democrat apparatus, and in our 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: politics more broadly and as needed, we will swat down 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: the latest effort to make this about Trump and the 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: threats to our democracy. And you have yet another instance, 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: yet another time where we have, oh, look at this, 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: a leak to the Washington Post that's supposed to be 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: so scary about how awful Trump is. Here's the headline, 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: in case you missed it, material on foreign nation's nuclear 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: capability seized at Trump's moral lago And then a subheadline 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: here is some seized documents were so closely held only 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: the president, a cabinet level or a near cabinet level 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: official could authorize others to know. Okay, there's a lot 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: of First of all the fact that we continue clay 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: to get these deep state leaks who could possibly be 22 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: telling the Washington Post about this. Create an FBI official 23 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: or a DOJ official who is a deep state Hillary 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: loving Biden voting lunatic. Basically, that's the those are the 25 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: only sources for this information that you could possibly have. 26 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: So once again we have people that are supposed and 27 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: let me just say, I came from the intelligence community, 28 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: I had a top secret clearance, and the notion that 29 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I ever would have spoken to a news paper and 30 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: share right, well, first of all, it's it's it's illegal. 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: But but even if it, you know, it depends on 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: what you tell the newspaper. But but it's also a 33 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: violation of your ethics. You're supposed to serve in that role, 34 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: not use your access to play partisan hit games, which 35 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: is exactly what this is. So we're seeing once again 36 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: there are there are deep state elements that are using 37 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: their access and are abusing the trust put in them 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: by the American people to set all political scores. So 39 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: start with that, everybody, and then on the oh my gosh, 40 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: it's so scary. The nuclears. We don't know what the 41 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: country is, we don't know what the information. Is it's 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: so secret that somebody was willing to who has legal 43 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: access to it, who has access to the classified speak 44 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: to reporters about it? Which why would you do that? 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Why are you talking to reporters about this? And and 46 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: and then you also have to there's just a few 47 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: layers here, the deep state elements who lied to us 48 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: for four years about Russia collusion, their media allies who 49 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: amplified these lies, have never apologized, have never retracted. CNN 50 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: and The New York Times gave themselves awards for their 51 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: reporting on Russia collusion. They think that we're going to 52 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: not even just trust them, give them the benefit of 53 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: the doubt. I mean, are they out of their bleeping minds? 54 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: They can go, you know what, themselves like, this is 55 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: just clay? When are they going to get the hint? 56 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: What I think is most amazing about the continued fallout 57 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: of the Mari Lago raid is how quickly January sixth 58 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: the vanished. If you're out there and you're thinking to yourself, Okay, 59 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: what is going on here? It is a desperate ploy 60 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: to get Trump, and they will jump from one boat 61 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: to another instantaneously. We spent the whole summer Buck being 62 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: told over and over again how outlandish, unacceptable, seditious the 63 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: behavior was of Donald Trump related to January sixth. That 64 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: was the message that Democrats wanted to sell to us. 65 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: The moment that there was a raid on Mara Lago 66 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: and confidential documents and an issue with the National Archives emerged, 67 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: every Democrat operative and their friends in the media completely 68 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: bailed on the January sixth narrative and turned into, oh, 69 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: confidential documents. There have to be charges brought on this issue. 70 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: And the other thing I would say we need to 71 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: be aware of is Donald Trump is Joe Biden's life 72 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: vest Let me explain what I mean by that, Buck. 73 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has no reason to exist but for Donald Trump. 74 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: He wasn't elected himself. He ran on, I'm not Donald Trump. 75 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: It is no great surprise to me that, even though 76 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: he delivered the worst speech by the worst president of 77 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: any of their our lives on Thursday of last week, 78 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Biden is so desperate for Trump to be in the 79 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: news that he has to wrap himself around Trump because 80 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: otherwise he sinks, and Democrats go ahead and let his 81 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: political obituary be written. I'm gonna give you one guess 82 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: what do you think. The story that CNN's diving into 83 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: right now as we speak is the renuifications associated with 84 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: the nuclear document. This story the most important thing in 85 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: America right California is telling people shut off your electricity 86 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: because the blackouts are coming. Set your thermostats to seventy eight. 87 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: We can't actually provide any kind of a power to 88 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: There are people who know the financial world well who 89 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: say the indicators are we're about to hit a really 90 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: uglier recession, and the Biden regime and the media are 91 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: doing every day everything they can to delay the recognition 92 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: of this until after the election. Main story on CNN 93 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: right now is the foreign news story, and it's all 94 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be so scary, Clay, It's something that we 95 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: all need to remember. They talk so much about the 96 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: threat to democracy, right and if you're trying to come 97 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: up with the one of the ways to destroy and 98 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: we are a republic, not a democracy, but to destroy 99 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: a government with rule of law, to destroy representative government, 100 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: prosecuting your political opponents, using the judicial branch effectively as 101 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: a weapon, and the investigative branches of the federal government 102 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: as a weapon against people you disagree with politically can 103 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: really destroy a country very quickly. It destroys all faith 104 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 1: in the institutions, It destroys all faith in the people 105 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: who are employed by the state and have guns and 106 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: can take away your freedom, which is what we've seen 107 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: going on at the federal level. Look at all of 108 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: the attempts to bring criminal charges against Donald Trump, to 109 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: bring criminal charges against his family members. You see, they've 110 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: got some New York State is bringing something and against Bannon, 111 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: apparently Steve Bannon later this week. They never stop. They 112 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: are ruthless, and they use the law as a weapon 113 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: of politics in the most obvious ways. And the scary 114 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: part is they think they're the good guys, Like this 115 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: is the part of it that's really you know. It's 116 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: not like in the movies or they're like, yes, I've 117 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: made a deal with the devil. They're like, no, we're 118 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: saving democracy. These idiot libs are destroying democracy. Well, I 119 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: was thinking about this last night. If you were convinced 120 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump was Hitler, what would you do? The 121 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: answer is everything the Democrats are doing. They have convinced themselves, 122 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: in their delusional brains that Donald Trump is the modern 123 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: day equivalent of Hitler, and in their minds. Everything that 124 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: they are doing, which is actually destroying the underpinning foundations 125 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: of our country's republican democracy, is justified because of the 126 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: existential threat of Trump slash Hitler. And your point is 127 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: such a good one. That's the way their brains are working, Buck. 128 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: But I think we can't hammer on this enough. Merrick 129 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: Garland did something that has never occurred in the history 130 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: of this country. He ordered a raid on the former 131 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: president of the United States, who is currently the chief 132 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: political rival of his boss. If you want to talk 133 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: about threats to our sacred democracy, what he did is 134 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: truly unprecedented and represents the actual threat to democracy. The 135 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: response to Trump is far more danger dangerous to our 136 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: country than anything Donald Trump could have ever done. And 137 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: if you really thought he was Hitler, do you know 138 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: that Trump had the greatest opportunity to seize power in 139 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: most of our lives in the early days of COVID. 140 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: And do you know what Trump did deferred to state 141 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: governor and state mayors and allowed federalism to flourish for 142 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: both good and ill. In response to COVID. He had 143 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: the opportunity, if he were truly a dictator, to undertake 144 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: powers and the likes of which we've never seen. Who 145 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: did that Joe Biden when he came into office and 146 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: told every single person out there, you got to get 147 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: the jab or you can't work. This goes right to 148 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: the center I believe of the Democrat mentality today. And 149 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: it reminds me of the quote from the great movie 150 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: A Man for All Seasons or this one. Clay William 151 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: Roper says, yes, I'd cut down every law in England 152 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: to do that, meaning to get the devil in this 153 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: case Trump, and Sir Thomas Moore responds, Oh, and when 154 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: the last law was down and the devil turned round you, 155 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: where would you hide, Roper? With all the laws being flat, 156 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: this country has planted thick with laws from coast to coast. 157 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Man's laws, not gods. And the idea here being Democrats 158 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: decided that reportage journalism and they were actually saying this 159 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: at one point. Journalism under Trump, the truth under Trump 160 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: meant do anything you can to destroy this guy. That 161 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: was what journalists are. Social media companies, and I would 162 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: commend Glenn Greenwald, a man of the left, by the way, 163 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: somebody I have disagreed with publicly on some things in 164 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: the past. But who does abide by a set of 165 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: principles when it comes to free speech and civil liberties. 166 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: You know, he's an ACLU guy basically from thirty or 167 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: forty years ago. Now, the ACLU is just a leftist 168 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: awards or violence. Yeah, I mean, the ACLU is effectively 169 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: enforcing the dictates of the left under the guise of 170 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: it being liberty. But but greenwal had an amazing thread 171 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: last night on how yeah the so I mean, it's 172 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: going viral everywhere. The social media companies are working with 173 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: government in a way to democrats in government the Biden 174 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: regime to censor speech and shut down debate on more 175 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: and more issues. This problem is becoming more urgent, not less. 176 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: They absolutely did everything they could to stop the Hunter 177 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Biden laptop from coming out. That's just one example COVID 178 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: election stuff. There's so many areas. The latest polling says 179 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: sixty three percent of Americans. New York Post had this say, 180 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop story is important and would have 181 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: impacted voters had they actually known about this. They are 182 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: they are lying to you everybody. They are pretending to 183 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: be something that they are not. And then they wonder 184 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: why we don't feel good. You know, when we say 185 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: the election is stolen or we say the election was rigged, 186 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of ways in which we can 187 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: talk and which we do talk about that. And that's 188 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: why I think, you know, increasingly they keep accusing this. 189 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: This creates almost a whirlpool of insanity that gets goes 190 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: faster and faster for them. They keep accusing us of 191 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: what they're actually doing. They're destroying democracy, and they think 192 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: that we're destroying democracy. They're ending rule of law, and 193 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: they think we're ending rule of law. And to your 194 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: point about about what Merrick Garland just did with Trump, 195 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: how does that look now to everybody now that we 196 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: have more information, now we've all seen it. They really 197 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: had to send in dozens of FBI agents to seize 198 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: the documents that were in Trump's office in a mar 199 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Lagos basement. That was necessary. Give me a break, Yeah, 200 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: And the norms are breaking. And when you break the norms, Frankly, 201 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: if I'm Joe Biden, I'm not going to be very safe. 202 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're not going to get rated 203 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: when the president becomes everybody investigates their former chief political rival. 204 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it is it is a major It's across 205 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: the Rubeca on moment, and the fact that most people 206 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: who claim that our sacred democracy is in danger are 207 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: not aware of that. It comes back to I really 208 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: think you have to go to the essence of it. 209 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: They legitimately believe Trump is hitler. 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We're talking about BYU being unfairly maligned, Duke 232 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: throwing BYU under the bus over what appears to be 233 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: a Jesse Smollett fake racism allegation that occurred on a 234 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: volleyball court out in Provo, Utah, Bill in South Carolina, 235 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: and I was discussing for Duke of all places, given 236 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: what they did to the Duke lacrosse kids over one 237 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent a lie, and I believe Bill in South Carolina. 238 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: You say your son was on that Duke lacrosse team, 239 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: My grandson, yes, tell us about him. Was a freshman 240 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: on the team. He was at the party. He left 241 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: the party because there was no food and he and 242 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: with him was one of the three that she identified. 243 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: And if you remember they said that somebody's credit card 244 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: was used, Well that was the kid that was with 245 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: him that was nowhere is near the party and they 246 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: called me and then they they called my daughter and 247 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: you're right, that coach. Uh, he's at Brian College outside 248 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: of outside of Providence, and he wrote a book. I 249 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: read the book, great book, and uh. But the thing 250 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: is they called my daughter and said, come and get 251 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: your son the new Black Panther party of going through 252 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: the dorms looking for those lacrosse players, and we cannot 253 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: protect him. We can't guarantee his protection. And she had 254 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: somebody go and take him to Baltimore and then they 255 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: picked them up in Baltimore. They lived state New York. 256 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: The boy was traumatized. He couldn't believe that that could happen. 257 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: And people don't believe you. So when he went back, 258 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: he told Duke that you didn't believe us, so I'm 259 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: not going to play sports for you anymore. And they 260 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: said that's okay, we'll honor your scholarship, which which they did. 261 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: But we went and visited him there, and you know, 262 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: he came from a little school way up in the 263 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Booney's and he was traumatized. What's it like to have 264 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: your grandson falsely accused of something that he had nothing 265 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: to do with. And see everybody's dragging your family's name 266 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: through the mud. I can't even imagine how infuriating that 267 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: would be. And he had to have his DNA taken 268 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: and then and my son in law had to pay 269 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: a lawyer feast, just like everybody else, and it was 270 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: just a nightmare. And the university they had a new 271 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: presidents there who had come down from Harvard. And it 272 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: turns out, if you read that book, Coach K was 273 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: the adviser of that president, and in that book, that 274 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: coach blames Coach K for him being thrown under the bus. 275 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: And he was disappointed because they were good friends, their 276 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: wives were friends. They would go out to dinner and everything. 277 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: But as I mentioned it to my daughter three or 278 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: four weeks ago, and she said that, it turns out 279 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: at that particular time, there were two or three Duke 280 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: basketball players that were being investigated, one for rape, one 281 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: for assault and a bar and another one for a 282 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: possible man. Thank you for the call, and I'm sorry 283 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: what happened to your family. It's indefensible that Duke could 284 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: have done that, and that they could be buying this 285 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: new why and throwing by you under the bus like 286 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: they are my friend. 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LifeLock or go to 305 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: LifeLock dot com and use promo code Buck for twenty 306 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: five percent. All. Welcome back to Clay Travis and Buck 307 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We are now joined by the Speaker of 308 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: the Tennessee House, Cameron Sexton. Mister Speaker, thank you for 309 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: calling in. Thank you all for having me today. So 310 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: we talked at some length yesterday about the vicious murder 311 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: of Eliza Fletcher, allegedly by Cleotha Abston Henderson. Clay brought 312 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: to my attention that you, first of all understand the 313 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: laws at issue here very well, but that also there 314 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: was an effort underway in the Tennessee State House to 315 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: pass a law that would have kept someone like Kleiotha 316 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: Abston Henderson in prison. What do people need to know? 317 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this case has gotten a lot of national attention. 318 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: It's it's a gut punch for everybody who reads about it. 319 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: What do we need to know about the laws here 320 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: and how the system failed. Yeah, So the law that 321 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: we passed this year rewrote violent criminal law in the 322 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: state where if you commit like this case, especially I 323 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: great a kidnapping, you have to serve one of the 324 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: entire sent as. There's no time for no credits for 325 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: good behavior, there's no reduction in sentencing, there's nothing. You 326 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: serve every single day. The breakdown in the criminal justice 327 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: system is you can just look at Cleo as as 328 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: the poster child for this from juvenile crime where he 329 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: was raping people, never served really anytime up until he did, 330 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: especially I great a kidnapping in two thousand. So he 331 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: gets out early from Department of Corrections for some reason 332 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: after he's had all these infractions. Why he's in prison 333 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: for drug possession, weapon possession in decent exposure and then 334 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: whenever he gets out, and I'm sure he committed crimes 335 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: over the last two years while he was out too. 336 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: And then you had a lady decided to go run 337 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: and do her passion one morning, comes across him and 338 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: he kills her. And it's a total breakdown. And he 339 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: should have not gotten out early. He got out five 340 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: years early because he was a cook in the kitchen 341 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: when he was in prison. It's infuriating and I just 342 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: want to bring home to everybody the case that we're 343 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: talking about, because Tucker Carlson started his show off with 344 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: it last night. Eliza Fletcher, mom of two, She was 345 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 1: a marathon runner. She was out for an early morning 346 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: run in Memphis, Tennessee. This guy, who should have still 347 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: been behind bars for committing violent felonies, pulls up beside her, 348 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: kidnaps and murders her. According to the charges that have 349 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: been filed against him, he should have never been on 350 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: the street and speaker sex. And I'm glad you're with us, 351 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: because I think this is emblematic for what's going on 352 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: nationwide that we were talking about this recently. In Baltimore, 353 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: for instance, there was a study that found ninety percent, 354 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: I think of all the murders that had been committed 355 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: in Baltimore were committed by people that should have still 356 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: been behind bars. You're saying this guy got out early 357 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: because he had worked as a cook in a prison, 358 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: despite the fact that he had committed multiple violent acts 359 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: throughout his life. If he had still been behind bars, 360 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: this mom, this mom of two, the school teacher, would 361 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: still be alive. Absolutely, she would still be alive. And 362 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: if we had truth incidencing back in two thousand, like 363 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: we started in July one of this year, he would 364 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: have been there for five and more years. And all 365 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: these soft on crime groups who want to say, oh, 366 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: we need to monitor the feelings of these criminals. We 367 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: have to give them a reason to do realabilitation programs. 368 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: That's a bunch of Milwaukee that's crazy. They need to 369 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: serve their time, they need to do every single day. 370 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: We're going to announce a committee here at the end 371 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: of the day that's going to look at his case 372 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: and how this guy with this violent history, with all 373 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: these things he did while he was in prison, how 374 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: he got out early, and how he even got out 375 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: without any kind of probation or any kind of supervision. 376 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: They just let him walk out the door and said, 377 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: hey man, good luck to you. Speaking to it would 378 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: be related to COVID because he got out in November 379 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two and a couple of years ago. 380 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: And I know there was an attempt to get people out. 381 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is crazy that he was ever allowed out. 382 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: It is where that's one of the things we want 383 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: to look into in this committee. And you know the 384 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: other thing is he had a cell phone and he 385 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: is posting why he's in prison on his Facebook page, 386 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: and he's posting all these videos and he's posting when 387 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: he's going to get out, and so this is this 388 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: is awful. You had a young lady who decided to 389 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: go for a run who never came home to her 390 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: two kids because the criminal justice system over the last 391 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: ten to twelve years has been too lenient, and all 392 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: these soft on crime groups are all wanting to pat 393 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: the criminals on the butt as they go out the 394 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: door and say we believe in you, We know you're 395 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: not going to commit another crime. And as you all said, 396 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: these violent criminals, you can't rehab evil. Evil is evil 397 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: and may need to be in jail, either the entire 398 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: sentence or for the rest of their lives. We're speaking 399 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: to Speaker of the Tennessee House, Cameron Sexton right now. 400 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: Measure Speaker, what we see work when it comes to 401 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: public safety, criminal justice in one state can be replicated 402 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: in many others, so it can have national implications. Obviously, 403 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: right now there's an enormous increase in violent crime that 404 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: the whole country is going through. Clay and I talk 405 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: frequently about how the roots of this are in progressive prosecutors, BLM, 406 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: defunding police, all of that leftist policy lunacy. What do 407 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: you think could be done in your state and what 408 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: are the additional measures that you might want to see 409 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: so that you don't have let's say Nashville turn into 410 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: what we've seen in Baltimore and Portland and some of 411 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: the cities in recent years that have had one hundred 412 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: percent increase in shootings or a fifty percent or a 413 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: thirty percent increase in murder. Well, the first thing we 414 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: did is we passed truth in Sentencing in our two counties, 415 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Davidson and Shelby where we have these George Soros Attorney generals. Well, 416 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: we're working with our state ag to clarify our law 417 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: and our ten If you don't prosecute people, the state 418 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: can come in and remove you from office, period, no questions, 419 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: no ifs or endzudsbuts about it. We're going to remove you. 420 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: Like this guy, Cleo. It wasn't like when he walked 421 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: out of jelly He was setting at home drinking pepsi 422 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: and eating jelly beans and going to Bible study every night. 423 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: And so we're gonna do what we need to do 424 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: to protect society. Government's job is public safety first and foremost, 425 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: and your child to feel safe walking home from school, 426 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: you should be feel safe going out for a run 427 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: at anytime. We just had a case in Knoxville. But 428 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: there was bystanders out there that jumped in to save 429 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: the young lady who who was about ready to get 430 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: raped and kidnapped just a couple of days ago or yesterday. 431 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: And so this is a problem. And we're going to 432 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: do everything that we can in Tennessee to push back 433 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: on these liberal progressive agendas from these people who are 434 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: soft on crime, and we're going to continue to pass 435 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: juvenile crime bills. If you commit adult crime, the juvenile 436 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: needs to do adult time. There's no you only go 437 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: to prison until you're eighteen. You go for a long 438 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: period of time, speak your sex and appreciate the time. 439 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: And thanks for trying to address this craziness. We'll talk 440 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: to you. Thank you. So this is wild, buck, because 441 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: it really is emblematic of what's going on everywhere. Did 442 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: you ever think we would be in a place where 443 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: you wouldn't feel comfortable with your wife or daughter going 444 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: for a jog in many different cities all over this country. 445 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was my life growing up 446 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: in New York City in the later eighties and early nineties. 447 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: I didn't think we'd ever go back to it. But 448 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: we decided, or rather some people in this country decided 449 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: to unlearn the lessons of the eighties and the nineties 450 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: about what works, what keeps us safe, and what's reality. Amen, 451 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: we need more pull, and we need criminals behind bars 452 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: for most of their lives and they commit violent offenses. 453 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Business owners, let's get you some help in managing your 454 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: team in more of the right ways. Bring your own 455 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: HR expert. Man. 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What if 465 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: your HR strategy included access to better benefits to help 466 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: you keep the employees you have and attract new ones. 467 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: And what if it also offered training for your employees 468 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: to increase their skills make them feel that much more productive. 469 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: There's always challenges in business, and no matter where they 470 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: come from, insparity is ready to help you move past 471 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: them by providing the HR solutions you need. With inspirity, 472 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: nothing seems impossible. Inspirity HR that makes a different Welcome 473 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: back in. I'm Clay Travis, He's Buck Sexton. I can't 474 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: even keep up with all the attacks that we get 475 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis out there in the media. 476 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: Most of the media that attacks us to be fair 477 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: a lot smaller audiences certainly way worse hair. But we 478 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: were talking earlier Buck about this Jesse Smallett on a 479 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: volleyball court. The fact that there's zero corroborating evidence of 480 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: any racial slur being uttered by anyone at BYU. The 481 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: entire story is falling apart. Well. USA Today, I was 482 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: made aware has got an editorial up. USA Today used 483 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: to be a widely read newspaper because it was given 484 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 1: away free to you if you stayed at a hotel 485 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: room anywhere, if you went to an airport anywhere. I'm 486 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: not sure that anyone has ever actually paid for a 487 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: USA Today in their life, but it still exists, and 488 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: there's an article in there that is defending this duke 489 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: volleyball player and attacking anyone who is daring to raise 490 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: questions about the fact that there isn't a single bit 491 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: of corroborating evidence of her allegations against BYU. This is outrageous. Clay. 492 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: First of all, you were referred to as right wing 493 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: extremist Clay Travis in this article. Yeah, you are very reasonable. 494 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: If anyone's a right wing extremist here, it is b 495 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: all right, that is like, this is this aggression shall 496 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: not stand. Second of all, the guy's analysis is absurd. 497 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: He's like, she puts her career at risk by making 498 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: the allegation that is absolutely obviously false. People who bring 499 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: up these allegations, and even if they're proven to be 500 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: a lie, I mean a straight up lie, they admitted 501 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: later on, there's never any consequent consequences. So this is 502 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: just delusional. Yes, but yeah, you mentioned it. Right wing 503 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: extremist Clay Travis said the story of a ten year 504 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: old rape victim was a why it turned out to 505 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: be true. Of course, he and others are now back 506 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: to shovel more of the same. I didn't say it 507 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: was a why. If you guys remember that story, I 508 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: said that there was zero evidence, according to the Attorney 509 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: General of the state of Ohio, that this had occurred. 510 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: And then when charges were brought against a man for 511 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: raping that girl, we came on the radio and talked 512 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: about it the moment that it came up. So, look, 513 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: the job of someone who talks in the media on 514 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: a day to day basis should be to be as 515 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: honest with they can with their audience. When there are 516 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: things that appear to be untrue, we're going to discuss it. 517 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: When those things are then proven to be true, we're 518 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna discuss that. We addressed that story the next day 519 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: when there was an update to the story and said, well, 520 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: the ag said he had never heard of this, but 521 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: actually there are charges and an illegal migrant did rape 522 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: a very young girl in the state of Ohio. We 523 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: address the facts right away, and at to your point, 524 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the storyline on the right, from you, for me, from 525 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: anybody was never, well, this is a lie. It's the 526 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: attorney general says that this is not a case. If 527 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: the attorney general in a state, we can only rely 528 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: on the facts as presented when the attorney general investigation 529 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: so far as he knew, which is what we reported, 530 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: and play. Yeah, and so far as the attorney If 531 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: you can't rely on the attorney general when he says 532 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: there's no case, what are we supposed to do or 533 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: he supposed to assume the attorney general is lying. I mean, 534 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: so it's absurd. But we got some BYU athletes, former 535 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: athletes at BYU who want to weigh in on this. 536 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: We want to get to that. Yeah, let's do it. 537 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: We have Vanessa in Columbia, South Carolina, a former BYU 538 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: hoops player. What's up, Vanessa, Good afternoon, how are you? 539 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: We're good? Thank you good, Thank you for giving me 540 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak. I have to chime in just 541 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: to add some bolstered support to BYU. Obviously had the 542 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to be a BIU student athletes, and just have 543 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: to share that my journey was nothing but an atmosphere 544 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: of love and inclusion and kindness, refinement. And I've got 545 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: such a tremendous respect for both universities. I was recruited 546 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: to Duke, I played for by U UM. It's heartbreaking 547 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: to hear of this national divisiveness surrounding the the event, 548 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: but all I can do is speak to my experience 549 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: and say that Um, you know, all I can use 550 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: is words like commendable and most respect for the athletic. 551 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: If somebody, if somebody in the in the stands at 552 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: BYU had yelled a racial slur at at a an 553 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: athlete from a visiting visiting school, in this case, Dude University, 554 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't the crowd have been appalled by this? I would 555 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: assume so, Um, you know, and I think it's it's 556 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: worth chiming in and I should. I should share this. 557 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: I sometimes hesitate to do so because it's not something 558 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 1: that's been very apparent to me, and it's thing that 559 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: I've based negatively. But I am an individual of African 560 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: American carritage, so certainly sensitive to if something were to 561 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: have been slurred and stated. I ironically also now live 562 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: in the state of South Carolina, but I was slowly 563 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: disappointed to hear when the game was canceled. Yeah. I 564 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: want to ask you about that, because you are maybe 565 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: the most unique perspective. You played at BYU. You now 566 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: live in Columbia, South Carolina, so there's no corroborating evidence 567 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: that this occurred. It's a totally different sport. This was 568 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: women's volleyball South Carolina women's basketball, which is a wildly 569 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: successful program. To Don Staley's credit, she has built him 570 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: into national champions. This would have been a big deal 571 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: you played at BYU. This would have been a big 572 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: deal for BYU in South Carolina to play against each other. 573 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: She canceled this series based on what appears to be 574 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: a non corroborated allegation against BYU, and it's as the 575 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: volleyball team right right against the vollyball Yeah. How does 576 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: that strike you as someone who has good perspective on 577 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: both ends here from both South Carolina and BYU. Well, 578 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's disheartening. I have a tremendous amount of 579 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 1: respect for her, what she's done and what she's done 580 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: for the program. I can understand that their sensitivity around 581 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: not wanting to expose your players to something if you 582 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: felt that that occurred. At the same time, I think 583 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: that there's an invitation to take somewhat of a higher 584 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: higher ground. I think backing away, canceling a game, things 585 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: like that would only if it did occur, give power 586 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: to the statements that had been made right. Yeah, I 587 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: mean the notion of thank you so much, Vanessa a 588 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: great call um. The notion play of collective punishment in 589 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: this case has people who have nothing to do with anything. 590 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, It's not even like they said, all we're 591 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: clearing the stand somebody said a racial slur. You could say, well, 592 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: there are people there and we can't know. The basketball 593 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: team has nothing to do with the volleyball team. The 594 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: players have not thing to do with the people in 595 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: the stands. So who are you punishing here? Like, what's 596 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: never mind? I mean the fact that we right now 597 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: we're saying it doesn't even seem to be corroborated. It 598 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: is possibly entirely untrue. Why would you punish the women's 599 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: basketball team for this? It's a great question, And also 600 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: I wonder again we raise the issue that South Carolina politicians. 601 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, by the way, that was fantastic 602 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: for somebody who has perspective on both sides there to 603 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: have the South Carolina legislature raising this, I think very 604 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: fair question of why are you lending credence to the 605 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: idea that this occurred when there's zero evidence that had happened. 606 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: But to your point, Buck, it's not even the same sport, 607 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: so effectively, what you're doing is throwing all of BYU 608 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: under the bus. And if you wonder Buck why people 609 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: are afraid to even address this in the media, it's 610 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: because they don't want USA Today to write negative things 611 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: about them. All I'm saying is, let's talk about these 612 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: facts in these details. And I'm a right wing extremist 613 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: for saying, hey, go to get you corroborating evidence. I 614 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: need to get it. The right wing extremist T shirt Clay, 615 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: I don't you know this is lelyd into this one. 616 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean to get USA Today right when you extremist 617 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: Clay Travis dares to question whether a racial slur was uttered. 618 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that the job of media. Shouldn't we 619 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: be in the position of saying, hey, I'm a little 620 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: bit skeptical that this might have occurred. Woken means never 621 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: asking questions and never caring what's true. This is we 622 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: know this, this is the beginnings. This is one oh 623 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: one level. So woken doesn't matter if it's true or not. 624 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: It matters that it's raising awareness. By the way, speaking 625 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: of raising things, might be raising temperatures out in California 626 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 1: because the lights are going off, which means you're ac 627 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: maybe going off. We'll talk about it look out Clay 628 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines.