WEBVTT - Q&A with Jamie and Caitlin

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody. We just have a quick few announcements at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the show. First of all, Happy New Year,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year. We wanted to remind you that there's

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco as a part of s F Sketch

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<v Speaker 1>then we were scooting on over to New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be there for the Brooklyn Podcast Festival on January.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be at the Bellhouse and we are covering

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<v Speaker 1>and then Jamie, you had another thing you wanted to plug.

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<v Speaker 1>Have one last blagum. So if you have been following

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<v Speaker 1>me online for the past year or so, you will

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<v Speaker 1>know that I have been in mensa, Brad. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no screenwriting degree because it only costs seventy five dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>But I I have been doing a project where I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in mensa and then I accidentally got targeted by

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<v Speaker 1>like an old red group and it has been a

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<v Speaker 1>whole adventure of about eighteen months. And I just yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>released a four part podcast series called My Year in

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<v Speaker 1>Mensa that traces my wild experience but also traces the

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<v Speaker 1>history of my que societies, which is not so great,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's it was very interesting to me and

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<v Speaker 1>if you enjoy the Battel Cast, I think you will

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it too, So check it out. It's My Year

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<v Speaker 1>in Mensa on all the podcasting platforms except Stitcher for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason. Sorry, and yeah, reay review subscribe all episodes

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<v Speaker 1>right now, not making it anymore, so please listen woo

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<v Speaker 1>and now enjoy the episode do. On the beck dodcast,

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<v Speaker 1>the questions asked if movies have women in them, are

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<v Speaker 1>all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or do they

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<v Speaker 1>have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef invest start changing it with

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<v Speaker 1>the beck Del Cast. Hello and welcome to the Bechel Casts. Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Jamie. This is our podcast about the

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<v Speaker 1>representation of women in movies. But today, Oh, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>happy happy, Hopefully this isn't the worst year of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope in advance this is not the worst year

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<v Speaker 1>of your life. Today, we are deviating from the format

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. We're gonna be doing a Q and

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<v Speaker 1>A episode. But hey, if this is your first time

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<v Speaker 1>listening and you just want to know things about us

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<v Speaker 1>in our show, we've been that you've never listened, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what the podcast is. Sure. We talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the representation of women in movies, and we use the

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<v Speaker 1>Bechdel Tests sometimes cast test Um, and that, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is a media metric developed by cartoonist Alison Bechdel that

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<v Speaker 1>requires two female identifying characters who have names talk to

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<v Speaker 1>each other in a movie about something other than a man. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're starting there's don't pass it. Yes, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know progress that's very sl But we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a movie today, we're talking about ourselves. Yeah, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to constantly be taking up passing the Bechtel tests

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<v Speaker 1>unless there's there's some questions about Molina. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago we decided that that does pass.

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<v Speaker 1>The back are talking about it still passes. If you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't listened to just don't don't listen to this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so we we um. We asked our our Matreon

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<v Speaker 1>patreon AK Matreon subscribers to get us a sick lineup

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<v Speaker 1>of questions for this episode. By the way, around about

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<v Speaker 1>plug for if you can't get enough back to cast,

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<v Speaker 1>we do two bonus episodes a month on our patreon

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<v Speaker 1>a matren And if you want the privilege of being

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<v Speaker 1>able to submit a question for a Q and a episode,

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<v Speaker 1>just that well, this is going to be the start

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<v Speaker 1>of many or something. I don't know. I hope people

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<v Speaker 1>would want that. Um. But in any case, you're taking

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, well we will never know. Hey, was

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<v Speaker 1>website and sign up today, But it's it's it's five

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<v Speaker 1>over fifty this episode. So anyways, that's where the questions

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<v Speaker 1>are coming from. Um, should we just jump into it?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we do, all right, starting with the two

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<v Speaker 1>first names. Yeah, first names. This comes from LINEA. They asked,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you two meet? We met in Boston. We

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<v Speaker 1>met in Boston doing comedy, do you I remember Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this before, maybe just in the Matron

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember, but I think the year would have

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<v Speaker 1>been or maybe I had just started doing stand up twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>You were cool and doing it. Was at that show

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<v Speaker 1>in Jamaica, Jamaica playing Boston Comedy Chicks, and you were

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. I was doing it. I was still very

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<v Speaker 1>new to stand up. You were like established in the

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<v Speaker 1>Boston scene. And you literally because we were sitting at

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<v Speaker 1>the same table. I think there's like free pizza, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I just didn't talk to anybody, didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to talk to anybody. But you talked to me

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<v Speaker 1>and you were talking about your masters You're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finishing grad school right now. I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like me, but that's classically that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound like me because I hate to bring up my

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<v Speaker 1>master's So you're really breaking form by really talking about

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<v Speaker 1>your master's degree. Where you mistaking me for someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think I would ever mention my master's

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<v Speaker 1>degree in screen running from Boston University. That was Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the first time we met, but that's the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I remember us having a conversation. Yeah. Same,

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<v Speaker 1>And then we used to do you used to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a sketch group at the theater that I worked at, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>at improf Boston. Yeah, we got to know each other

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<v Speaker 1>a little better that way. And then I moved to

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<v Speaker 1>l A I think a year before you did. And

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<v Speaker 1>then literally as soon as you moved here, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to do a podcast with me? And

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest is history. Became very very close to

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<v Speaker 1>doing the podcast you're listening to literally right now, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are all right. Next question, Oh, I love

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<v Speaker 1>this one comes from leon favorite Alfred Molina performance. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me pull up as IMDb. I don't want to is anything. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I have one off the top of my head, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is his performance in the movie Chock a Lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you were gonna he's really good in that

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<v Speaker 1>he's only really good and everything. He's really good and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this movie he plays a villain. Um, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a great villain. He's a great hero. He can do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>He is doing a French accent. Just the scene where

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<v Speaker 1>you get Okay, so if you haven't seen it, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to see chocolat I mean, suspend your Johnny Depp Hatriod,

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<v Speaker 1>we get it, and you should see there's a scene

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<v Speaker 1>where he's so he's like very anti chocolate throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>whole movie, which sounds for pleasure. It's a metaphor for pleasure. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a scene where he accidentally gets a little

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<v Speaker 1>fluck of chocolate on his lips and he licks them

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's just like goes into this like horn

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<v Speaker 1>when he eats the crappy patty. Sure, I have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen Did you see there's a SpongeBob movie coming out?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm so excited. Okay, anyway, So, so Alfred

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<v Speaker 1>Molina is you know, just he's horny, he's eating all

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<v Speaker 1>the chocolate, and it's truly one of the best performances

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<v Speaker 1>of any actor. It's heaven time. He's so good. I

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<v Speaker 1>think for me, the seminal performance will always be Spiderman too,

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<v Speaker 1>counter Auto Octavia's, I think the best, the best villain

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<v Speaker 1>performance I've ever seen, Sexual Awakening and all. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>also I I rewatched his scene, and but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>rewatch Boogie Nights very often. I rewatched his scene and

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<v Speaker 1>Boogie Nights a lot like that famous Oh, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>he's incredible in that scene. He's so good. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>also just he's been in so much usaw for Rosen too.

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<v Speaker 1>How was he in that? Um? His character is not

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<v Speaker 1>on screen for very long, and it's just his voice.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the only part of Vice that I liked.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that I like the upcoming Robot Chicken sketch

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<v Speaker 1>that he's in that I wrote that will maybe come

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<v Speaker 1>out this week. I don't know. Oh, I did like

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<v Speaker 1>him in Monster's University. Wait, he's in Monsters Universities. He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the professors. He does a lot of like

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<v Speaker 1>Disney animation work. Then, because he's also in record breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>the internet. Yes, yeah, I mean, I mean he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, got to get those checks, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's directing his first, his first movie this year too.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just I mean, we love at the cast. And

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<v Speaker 1>also this episode is going to come out on our

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<v Speaker 1>one year anniversary of meeting Billa. Really ye, because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember his January second to nineteen. I'll never ever ever

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<v Speaker 1>forget that day. Such a fun day. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>live in the l A area, in February and March,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be in a one man play in

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<v Speaker 1>Pasadena and I have tickets to opening. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to go in March when he comes.

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<v Speaker 1>When I come back, Um, when I come back from

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Among there are places that I will be

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<v Speaker 1>on the East Coast. We're touring. When i'm yes, we're touring,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't forget that. We come to ours dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I'm in New York, I'm seeing a play

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<v Speaker 1>called Paddington Gets in a Jam. It is four ages,

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<v Speaker 1>three to eight. How has Alpha Billiona not been in

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<v Speaker 1>a Paddington movie yet? I don't know. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect because he's from Paddington's. Yes, he's from Paddington.

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<v Speaker 1>He's British, he's got the right vibe. He would be

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<v Speaker 1>he could be a villain or hero. True, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing about it. I know he's really good in Frida.

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<v Speaker 1>We can stop talking about it. He's good in everything. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's good in literally everything. He most certainly is I

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<v Speaker 1>think no, But you know what, Leon, To answer your question,

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite alpha billing performance would have to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Brockovitch episode Yes, really, career Maker. I think do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he would have been in Frozen too if

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't done that? Of course? Not, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>The answer next question comes from Judy asks which film

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<v Speaker 1>are you most surprised actually passed the test? Which episode

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<v Speaker 1>do you think has the most outtakes due to tangents,

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<v Speaker 1>laughing fits, et cetera. Okay, so two different questions here. Tough, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean movies. I feel like most movies i'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>past the test are ones that barely pass the test, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like the I feel like we should have a

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<v Speaker 1>shorthand for right now, but like the almost like the

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<v Speaker 1>barely pass of like hi to use your name, Hi, Judy,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this shoe? Awesome and then the rest is

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<v Speaker 1>men killing each other. So those are always like, it's frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at our list of I always remember being

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that the Room test Believe it or not, getg

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy wizzose. The Room passes the test, which is pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ground fairly passes. I'm just looking through our Oh, Gelie,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when that is shocking and inappropriate. We've passed. What

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<v Speaker 1>else do we have? Fair that You're just like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that can't be right. Manhattan passes. Um. Yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of problematic movies that past effecteal test, which is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're always reminding it's a law metrics. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think The Room was a shocker. Well. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the second part of this question is which episode do

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<v Speaker 1>you think has the most outtakes due to tangents, laughing, physic,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Um, I don't know. There was one where

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<v Speaker 1>there was some where we truly just like go to

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<v Speaker 1>another dimension the end of Like, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to that there. Oh, I wish I remembered what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, because there was one that I had like

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<v Speaker 1>a separate editing file open four that I had just

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<v Speaker 1>I kept putting out takes into that I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to like edit into like a super cut I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I don't remember what from a recent episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the Santa Claus is one of the most wild recording

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<v Speaker 1>experiences I've ever. I don't think we even cut that

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<v Speaker 1>much from it. We didn't, which is why it was

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half our block. But like it was

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<v Speaker 1>that I think was one of my favorite episodes to

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<v Speaker 1>record because it was just like, where are we? What

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<v Speaker 1>was happening? We're like, but we didn't cut that much.

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<v Speaker 1>So that doesn't really answer the question what do I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like when stuff gets wild? Unless it's like wild

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<v Speaker 1>in a oh my god, what is this person saying

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way, which is very rarely happened, we just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of leave it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done Back when we used to have more male

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<v Speaker 1>guests on the show, there would be more cutting sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>to make our male guest not yet hate mail um,

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<v Speaker 1>and which is why we have since enforced a very sparing,

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<v Speaker 1>every once in a while honored mail guest policy. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think especially since we put the kabash on

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<v Speaker 1>mail guests, for the most part, um, we haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>to do that many outtakes. Yet next question comes from

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor asks when will you be gay? Um, I'm by

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<v Speaker 1>which I did a soft come out this year in

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<v Speaker 1>one tweet. But I also don't feel the need to

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<v Speaker 1>explain myself. Yeah. Um my sexuality if anyone was curious. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>my birth control is making me a sexual so that's something.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's coming. Yeah, but I'm going to go off

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<v Speaker 1>of it soon and you might be asking why can't

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<v Speaker 1>you just like stop taking your pill or whatever. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because it's an implant in my arm and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to get it surgically removed health care flags. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the answer to your question is I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're both like question marks all around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. Um, we're somewhere on the spectrum as

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is. I know I've said I guess. I have

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<v Speaker 1>said that the show that I'm straight a number of times,

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<v Speaker 1>which has never been true. But who cares. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't keep me up at night, nor should it you. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think here's an answer to your question because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel absolutely no sexual feelings and have not for the

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<v Speaker 1>past several years since I've been on this birth control. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know who I'm attracted to anymore. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think when I get new health insurance and

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<v Speaker 1>can go to the doctor and get my thing taken out,

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely consider dating women. So there's that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>currently in a relationship with a man. Boo. No, I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very nice. So I guess, Taylor. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope that answers your question. Apart our next question, it

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<v Speaker 1>comes from Katie. They ask movies you're most looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to in I don't know. I feel like I never

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<v Speaker 1>know about a movie before two weeks before it comes out. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you excited for? I'm I'm excited for Mulan. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't that up. They funked up literally all of

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<v Speaker 1>them so far. The truly have so fingers crossed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be great. I'm excited for Yeah, what is

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<v Speaker 1>even coming out? Let me look it up. Okay, Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>In spite of the fact that Scarlett Johansson is canceled,

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<v Speaker 1>I am interested to see Black Widow. Um. Oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>New Wonder Woman comes out next year. That'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>The Harley Quinn movie, I guess kind of I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>a little burned out on Margot Robbie tb h even

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<v Speaker 1>though she's my my favorite movie ever. Fast and Furious

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<v Speaker 1>nine apparently, Sure, Dr Doolittle, I'll see it. I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>we should cover the Eddie Murphy one. Um, I oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>the return of T. J. Miller new thing with Underwater? Underwater? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How a jew betrayal? Oh you know it is a

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<v Speaker 1>movie that I genuinely think will be funny to watch

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<v Speaker 1>because it looks really really bad. But Harrison Ford Call

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wild, Oh my gosh, I'll see ironically, or

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Doolittle and Harrison Ford Call of the Wild. So

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of c g I animals the only wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>men in CGI animals. The only movie with a c

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<v Speaker 1>g I animal that you should watch is Paddington. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it looks so bad. Oh, Minions three, Yes, Scocoop, gotta

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<v Speaker 1>see Scoop. Yeah. I don't know if the next year

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be better, if this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good year for movies. Honestly, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, I think it was a pretty solid year

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<v Speaker 1>for movies. A lot of movies I really really liked

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<v Speaker 1>came out. Um. Yeah, I guess, Oh, in the Heights

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<v Speaker 1>will be cool. I'm excited to see. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>West Side Story comes out next year too, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's I know, the new Into the Spider Verses coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's good now, I know we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>there it um but that, yeah, that doesn't come out sonic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, it's a lot of bullshit coming out

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Yeah. I guess there's a plenty of movies

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see, but there's nothing like I feel like going

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<v Speaker 1>into There was a bunch that I'm like, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>not so much so far. If if we're missing, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have recommendations, drop us a line, please do Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question comes from Allison, and they ask opinions slash

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<v Speaker 1>Ideas on how to effectively combat reboot culture, which tends

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<v Speaker 1>to perpetuate or trivialize regressive ideas regarding race, gender, sexuality,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Combatting it is difficult. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a very sinister cinematic track. I mean, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you are not about it, don't go

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<v Speaker 1>like that's a great way to combat it. Is not

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<v Speaker 1>is if you see it and you're unhappy with the

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<v Speaker 1>way it's rebooting it make your thoughts known because like

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<v Speaker 1>movie production places, for better or worse, are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>fans now more than ever. Um. Social media is a

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<v Speaker 1>useful tool. Literally ruined Star Wars. It's crazy, but but

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<v Speaker 1>like for better where people are listening. UM. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you are unhappy with how properties being rebooted

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not being done or don't see the movie

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean there's a lot of recent reboots

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<v Speaker 1>that have flopped because no one wanted it. Yeah, money

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<v Speaker 1>speaks very loudly in all industries, this one included. And

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<v Speaker 1>if something doesn't do well, but that sucks because like

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<v Speaker 1>what you should do is put your money towards seeing

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<v Speaker 1>movies that you want to see. You want to see,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like I don't want to tell you just

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<v Speaker 1>like don't go to this like all female reboot of

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<v Speaker 1>x y Z movie because what's gonna well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going to happen. I think is that executives

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be like, well, no one went to see this,

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<v Speaker 1>so that means that no one wants to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>female driven stories. And it's not that it's the we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be get like the sloppy seconds of

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<v Speaker 1>what men want and stuff like that. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that a similar thing was brought up with You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>where like when the Charlie's Angels reboot wasn't a smashing success,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, well, this is a reflection on women,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like, no, this is a reflection on reboots.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is true that whenever property is rebooted and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an all female reboot or you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>every character is white this time, but it's if it's

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<v Speaker 1>still sloppily written, and I like and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times the behind the camera diversity efforts aren't done, it

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<v Speaker 1>comes out. I mean, yeah, it's it's tricky combating. It

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<v Speaker 1>is really challenging, and I think unfortunately kind of requires

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<v Speaker 1>that you do a little homework on your own of like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see a reboot. What do I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see? Who is someone who's work that I

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<v Speaker 1>really like, Who isn't getting the representation that they deserve,

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<v Speaker 1>Who isn't getting the work they deserve? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>let people know like it it is. Unfortunately, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>your money speaks very loudly, and word of mouth online

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<v Speaker 1>speaks very loudly, so if there are people whose work

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see more of screaming. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I feel like in some ways we are

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<v Speaker 1>trapped in reboot culture for a while. Disney is uh

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<v Speaker 1>is has literally taken over the they had of box

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<v Speaker 1>office receipts. It's an actual monopoly and we live in hell.

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<v Speaker 1>But baby Yoda right kidding? Didn't watch it, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>cut are fine? Um? Yeah, I don't know. It's depressing, Allison.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Try everyone keeps supporting artists that you like.

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<v Speaker 1>That are you know, trying different things? Yes? Uh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and then we'll come right back

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<v Speaker 1>to answer more questions. Let's do it, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoyed that commercial break. Our next question comes,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this one only for the Internet, asks what

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<v Speaker 1>filmmakers should be legally barred from making any more movies? Okay, well,

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:25.840
<v Speaker 1>let's start with softballs like Woody Allen, duh, duh. Now

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<v Speaker 1>let's take it out of the criminal sphere, Michael Bay

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<v Speaker 1>That was gonna be my next way is a very

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<v Speaker 1>obvious one. Um. Basically, any male director who has assaulted

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<v Speaker 1>or disrespected women and continue to have a flourishing career. Shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they're done. Yeah, they're done. We're if we're in charge,

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 1>which we aren't, we never will be. They're done. Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Bay just made a Netflix movie and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was I don't know. It was just a very

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Ryan Reynolds, is that? Who was a rent?

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<v Speaker 1>I know? It's like, Ryan Reynolds, could you relax? You

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<v Speaker 1>have enough money? Were you doing? I would add? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it the Fairly Brothers that's made all those horribly problematic

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<v Speaker 1>comedies and like the nineties and two thousand's and then

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<v Speaker 1>Green Book? Yeah? I think any white director that has

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<v Speaker 1>written a white savior story and won an Oscar for it,

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye, done, bye bye, don't need that. And and Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>my pie in This Guy at which people always give

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<v Speaker 1>me blown back for. But it's a sinister cinematic trend

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<v Speaker 1>that I fucking hate is men who directed broad, often

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<v Speaker 1>offensive comedies of the nineties and two thousands who are

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<v Speaker 1>now experiencing a second renaissance directing more serious movies where

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<v Speaker 1>they're mostly copying Adam McKay. Adam McKay can continue working

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned everyone copying Adam McKay. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say hangover guy, let's say bombshell guy. I'm sure they're

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly nice guy, although Todd Phillips does seem like a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking dick. But I don't know about I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about ms your bombshell. But he directed all the Austin

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<v Speaker 1>Powers movies and now he's like, I get to make

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<v Speaker 1>the meat to a movie. No you don't, Bye bye,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get to make that movie. Are the I mean, so,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're going all the way radical feminism, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>you directed Austin Powers, you don't get to make the

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<v Speaker 1>meato movie. You can make another movie that no one

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<v Speaker 1>gets to seem like, make awesome Powers. Fine. So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's just it's just frustrated and it's like less personal,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. But the specificity of that trend is weird

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<v Speaker 1>to me because the Fairly Brothers also fall into that trend.

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<v Speaker 1>The specificity of that trend is weird, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>just like, why do these white guys who have been

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<v Speaker 1>bajillionaires for twenty years get this second renaissance when so

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<v Speaker 1>many directors of colors, so many female directors, so queer

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<v Speaker 1>directors are still waiting for their first opportunity at a

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream movie grow Up. I agree. Okay, next question, should

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<v Speaker 1>we just pick one or two of these? Oh, Lindsay, Lindsay,

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<v Speaker 1>I will will answer two of these, first one being

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<v Speaker 1>are there any previous spectael Cast episodes that you think

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<v Speaker 1>you got wrong and would change your ratings? Um? I

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<v Speaker 1>can't think of anything specifically. I stand by all of

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<v Speaker 1>my comments in the Matrix episode. Uh, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>just in general, Caitlin, I'm curious to your thoughts too.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, we started this podcast right after the election,

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<v Speaker 1>which wasn't planned but depressingly well timed, which was over

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<v Speaker 1>three years ago and before. I don't know, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the discourse has kind of grown with our

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<v Speaker 1>show and we have listened a lot, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think especially in the first year of the podcast, especially

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the first six months, and a lot of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I mean, I just know that discourse wise,

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<v Speaker 1>I I've grown a lot in the past three years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned a lot, and especially from just like talking

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<v Speaker 1>to our guests and just seeking out the information more so,

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<v Speaker 1>there's I'm sure and I don't go back and listen

0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to them. I'm sure that, like, especially in the first

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 1>six months the show, there were some things that either

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>we missed entirely that will be very obvious to us

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<v Speaker 1>now or we're just like, is that your take, Jamie?

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Is it? So? Yeah, we've We've we've been growing up definitely. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few tropes too that I've learned about or

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>noticed more since we started. Like even for when we

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<v Speaker 1>did the Force Awakens episode, that was after we had

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<v Speaker 1>already been doing the podcast for over a year, But

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't that tuned into like the Merry Sue trope

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.479
<v Speaker 1>at that point, and I think we didn't really discuss

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that on that episode, about how while it is nice

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>for a Star Wars movie to have a female protagonist,

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really acknowledge that she falls into like that

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Mary trope thing. So yeah, I think, yeah, it is

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 1>mostly our earlier episodes. We've been learning along with everyone else,

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times just like it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>slow process of just like making sure that we are

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>fine the right perspectives for the right episodes. And yeah,

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>like they think that there were early episodes where like

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>if there was a queer storyline, we wouldn't always seek

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>out the queer perspective on it, and it's kind of

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>freeball it and we know better. No, I don't know,

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>we've definitely yeah, I mean we always acknowledge when we

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<v Speaker 1>have blind spots, and I think our blind spots were

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I think we've narrowed them down a bit in the

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<v Speaker 1>years of doing the podcast, but I think they were

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<v Speaker 1>quite at first. So yeah, it hasn't been has been

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>an educational experience for us, UM, and we are always learning.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>We're never the final word and anything. So another question,

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<v Speaker 1>are there any movies that get requested all the time

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<v Speaker 1>that you simply refused to do? Caitlyen you said he

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>had an answer for this, Yes you do. UM. I

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>never ever, ever, ever want to do a movie directed

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>by Ari Astor. I know you say. I feel like

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>we're going to end up having to do it, though

0:27:56.800 --> 0:28:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we will, but after seeing well that that's

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>been another question that it's not even that I hate

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:06.360
<v Speaker 1>him as a filmmaker, it's just that his movies punish

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>his audience, and I hate movies that I feel punished

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 1>by for just watching them. I don't mind movies that

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>are punishing you on purpose. Sometimes I don't like his

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>movies m which is a question that we got. We

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 1>got wide in either of you like Midsummer. I couldn't

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>something about it for weeks. Well, I didn't like Midsummer,

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>but I did see it three times? So what did

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I say about me? But it means I really thought

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 1>about do I like Midsummer? I really thought about it.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I was also under the influence of Well told her

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>who I had a real moment for him over the summer,

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Ari asked her, is doing the twenty nineteen thing that

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't like where he is? Like, women are front

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and center in my movies, but I never have a

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>female co writer, and all my female characters are written weird,

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Like great, why didn't you like Midsummer? Horror movies just

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>aren't really my genre, and his are so unsettling that

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I just you're awful after I've seen them. And I

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>don't like movies that make me feel awful. I like romps.

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I like movies that make me feel good, So I

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>like horror movies and I like feeling awful. So that's

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>not quite but I I didn't like Well, yeah, I

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>think that that movie more than any other I saw

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>this year. Hit that trope on the head of like

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>touting this female protagonist, but so many tropes are present,

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>whereas she is strictly defined by her trauma. There's just

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just a lot of tropes that I feel like

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't really that everyone got to pass on because they're like,

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a breakup movie, and I'm like, but but but

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>but but I just yeah, I didn't. I don't know.

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I I love how his movies look. They look good,

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and he gets really good performances. I think he also

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>tends to demonize mental illness quite definitely demonize his mental illness.

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Hereditary is where that is, and the horror genre has

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>done well in some instances, but in others have really

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>sold people with mental illnesses, just completely sold them out. Yeah.

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>So I I just think that he has a lot

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>of blind spots that he has maybe not been forthcoming with.

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's just like it's okay to have blind spots,

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's a process and seek out. It

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>is frustrating to me that he has not had any

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>female co writers but only writes movies with female protagonists.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that is a glaring blind spot and I think

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it comes up in both of his movies very clearly,

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and it sucks because I think he's a good director

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and I would encourage him to maybe get over himself

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Also, if you've listen to an interview

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>with him, oh boy, the eyes are you're like, is

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>this a freshman film seminar? Shut up? Um. So that's

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>two answers in one. Yeah. Great. Next question comes from

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Amber asks can there be more people of color guests? Answer? Yes,

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.479
<v Speaker 1>we should do that. Yes, more. We're always making an

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>effort to make the show as inclusive is humanly possible.

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But obviously yeah, they're They're like, we always always room

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>there and there will be. And if there's a specific

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>person comedian, writer of color who you would love to

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>see their perspective on the show, let us know and

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>also tweet at them in case they don't know we exist.

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think that we're a fake podcast. Sometimes will happen.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, point taken. There's always more work and more

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>perspectives and we'll keep on getting them. Yes, indeed, thank

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>you for the question. Next one, Henry asks, if you

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>could redo any of the movies you've already done, which

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>would you do except Titanic? In doubt? Mean, Um, I

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 1>would read. I mean, I think it's really just like

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>some of our first episode. I would redo. I think

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>we should redo Kill Bill, possibly with Zack Sherwin. Again.

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Interesting because I just know, first of all, we didn't

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>even give ratings for that episode. Apparently we didn't have

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the Nipple scale yet. And I just room giving that

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>movie so much credit that I would no longer give

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>it now. Um, with the perspective of time, I think

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that I would redo Kill Bill. I would redo Mad

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Max Fury Road because that has become truly one of

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>my favorite movies of all time. And I watched this

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>really good video essay series about it that brings up

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of points that I don't think we discussed.

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it was another early episode. In the early episode. Yeah,

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I would probably redo that one too and give it

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>more credit, even though I still don't enjoy the genre. Yeah,

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>that was the steam Steam I mean, and I still

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>don't like steep aesthetics, but I would give I would

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>give the characters more credit this time. I actually might

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>have us redo that one for a Matreon episode for

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>my birthday month this year. Yeah that's fun. Yeah, Yeah,

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, for the most part, it's

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can definitely track our growth throughout the episodes,

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't redo the matrix. But that's for sure.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, because I've seen that movie. We'll see what

0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>happens when my birthday month comes around. Don't don't. That's

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>my I veto. I'm not going to do it, all right,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do one by myself. Then, No, you can't

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>tell one by yourself. That's cheating. Oh my god, Okay,

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>we can do we can do. Okay, here's compromise. I'll

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>do a sequel. No, those are so bad, I won't

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>want to at all. Okay, okay, wait, next question. Our

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>next questions come from Douglas. The first question is are

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>there any all female reboots? You actually want to say? Um,

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that. It would have to be really

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>really good. I mean, I I always air on the

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>side of just let there be new stories in general,

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 1>but new stories about women and people of color and

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>queer people. At the work of updating a story that

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it very least has internalized misogyny to not have internalized misogyny,

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've seen it a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 1>It is rarely worked in a really really really affect

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>to way. For me at least, I would much prefer

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to see new stories right, And we might have touched

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>on this even earlier in this episode already. But for me,

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the all female reboot, it's like the industries they have

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>this notion that, oh, no one's gonna want to see

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 1>a movie with a female protagonist unless it's already were

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>tried and true recognizable property, which is not true. I

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know why they think that, And and there's so many,

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like proven box office things that are like, yeah, that's

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>not true, but just there's not enough female executives. I'll

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>answer this question by saying that because this franchise is

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>very problematic, but also like near and dear to me,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see a female reboot of Indiana

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Jones and I went to play Indiana Jones Done. I'd

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>see it, thank you. I don't. I can't think of

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a property off the top of my head that I

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>would want to see an all female reboot. There's like

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>some extended universes I would like to see female stories

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>inside of maybe, but not beat for beat. Yeah, just

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.839
<v Speaker 1>give me news stories. Give writers and directors a chance. Yes.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.479
<v Speaker 1>Another question from Douglas quote. Also, as movies hopefully become

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>more inclusive, should we assume that any conversation about a

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<v Speaker 1>trans man passes the test? That a passing conversation could

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 1>be between any combination of female, transmail and non binary

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>characters unquote. Interesting, very interesting question. I would imagine that

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the test should be on the gender you identify as.

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I also think that there is space in the test

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 1>to be inclusive. I've seen versions of the Battel tests

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>that it's like not just female identifying characters, it's also

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like it's open to like fems and like non binary characters,

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>which I am totally four. Um. So if it's like

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.760
<v Speaker 1>two non binary people talking about another non binary person,

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>I would say that passes the Becktel test. I'm really

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>interested to hear Alison Bechtel's thoughts on that too, just

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>because she's still a working writer, still like an activist.

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would imagine that she would have the

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>test be as inclusive as humanly possible. Yeah, I mean,

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 1>we don't make the rules in terms of the time,

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>We just choose the way we interpreted. And unfortunately, because

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of transport representation on screen, this

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>is not really a question we've ever come up against

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>in the movies that we've covered. Yeah, no, but I

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>agree with you. I mean the test should and I

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>think was designed to be as inclusive as possible, and

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>it will, and it wasn't even designed for to actually

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:40.160
<v Speaker 1>be applied. The way that we're applying it is comic.

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>It's from a comic and to watch out for collection

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and um, the context of like the scene that it

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:52.760
<v Speaker 1>appears in is to lesbian characters talking about this test

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and they're saying, oh, I pay attention to see if

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 1>women talk to each other in a movie, because if

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 1>they're if they're talking to each other but not about men,

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>then I can sort of ship them together and pretend

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that they are queer women because there's especially at the

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>time that this was written and then also still today,

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>there there was so little queer representation. Yeah, I think

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that that for now is kind of like a person

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to person, how do you interpret the test? For our purposes,

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 1>we want to make it as inclusive as possible and

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>as you interpret it, I guess my my thing is

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.839
<v Speaker 1>just like, as long as you're comfortable with the way

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>that the test is treating gender in regards to you

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>and your identity. You know, we're not going to tell

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you you're wrong. So yeah, the test is open interpretation.

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I think supposed to be inclusive as possible. Indeed, thank

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you Douglas, Yes, thank you. Grace asks is Robert Evans

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>ever going to be a guest? Yes, at some point.

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>The thing is Probert doesn't live here anymore, so it's hard.

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 1>We don't get to see him very often. But when

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>the stars align, you know he's going to be. We've

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>had email chains about it and it's like, are we

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>going to ask him to talk about what he wants

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, which is guns or so. If you

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know who Robert Evans is, he's the host of

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Behind the Bastards and a part of the iHeart Radio

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 1>family of podcasts, A dear friend. If you haven't listened

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to a show, it's wonderful. Also worse here ever with

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Cody Johnson and Katie Still. Yeah, I mean, we love Robert.

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>We want to have him in the show. I was

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.879
<v Speaker 1>pushing for him to do the Handam Montana movie, right,

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>which I still if you want that episode tweeted Robert,

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>remind him and then the next time we're in the

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.479
<v Speaker 1>same city will make it happen, but we're we haven't

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>been avoiding it right to happy. He just doesn't live

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>in l A anymore. He just doesn't and good and

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<v Speaker 1>honestly smart. Grace also asked one of the most popular

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<v Speaker 1>episodes slash order our favorite episodes popular episodes, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know, just a little peak behind the curtain. We

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<v Speaker 1>really don't know much about our numbers, which we don't

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<v Speaker 1>for a very long time. The Twilight episode was our

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<v Speaker 1>most popular. I feel like Twilight and Spider Man two

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<v Speaker 1>were up there with the most popular episodes for some time.

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I have to imagine that that has changed. I would

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 1>imagine the Aaron Brockovitch is probably up there at this point. Um.

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>My best guess is the more popular the movie, the

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>more popular the episode, because we've done movies that are

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<v Speaker 1>a little more you know, off the beaten path, and

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers were far lower. Believe it or not. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, like I remember, for the longest time, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Twilight, Twilight a long time. I mean, honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of still hope it's storylight. But yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be curious to know, you know, beats us beats us

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<v Speaker 1>to answer your question favorite episodes love actually is still

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an all time favorite for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>think one of my favorite a recent favorite would be

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the Santa Claus because like conversations that I really I

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>really loved our Lion King episode with Now that was great.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a really good cover. I love the also

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Black Panther episode witho A Class. I always am going

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<v Speaker 1>to love the snow White episode with Jack. That was

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>when we were singing so much um. That was really fun.

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>One of the funniest ones that we've done recently I

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:18.840
<v Speaker 1>think was good Will Hunting with Ya. That was so funny.

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite live episodes we've done it was

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Waiting Exhale with Aaron Haynes Whack. That was so much fun.

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Lazy episodes favorite and I think I hate about you

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the best are always going to be. I just yeah,

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>we have great guests and we always have fun. I

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know, bringing on with Maggie is really fun. I

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>just I love everyone. I love all of our guests. Yeah,

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't pick an all time favorite, but those are

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.479
<v Speaker 1>the ones that jump to mind of like, yeah, same, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take another quick break. But I guess what gang

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<v Speaker 1>We've got more questions when We're back all right. Next

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<v Speaker 1>question comes from Stacy. This one is rather long. It says,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you feel the evolution of feminism, specifically second

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<v Speaker 1>and third wave affected the portrayal of women in movies

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, both positively and negatively through both the

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<v Speaker 1>advancement of women and inevitable backlash. For example, there does

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<v Speaker 1>not seem to be a linear improvement in the portrayal

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<v Speaker 1>of women or minorities in film, and often seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be steps taken backwards. How much of that is a

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<v Speaker 1>type of protest by those in power trying to stop

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<v Speaker 1>any change in the status quo or recapture the good

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<v Speaker 1>old days. This is an excellent, complicated question. Yes, so

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<v Speaker 1>I do agree that the portrayal of women in movies

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<v Speaker 1>has progressed as time goes on, especially through various waves

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of feminism that have taken place. And I also agree

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<v Speaker 1>that the majority of this progress has applied to the

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>way that white women are, white hetero women are portrayed,

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<v Speaker 1>that as we've discussed on the show many times, that

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<v Speaker 1>they tend to be the first stop of who is

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>afforded progress, and that women of color and queer women

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<v Speaker 1>and trans women and just just everyone else kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gets left behind and the progress is much slower. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>like that is it's very frustrating because you know, Hollywood

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is this huge bureaucracy, still majority patriarchy, still majority white.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 1>So you have to scream at the top of your lungs,

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you have to vote with your money, you have to

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.959
<v Speaker 1>like all this frustrating stuff just to get the bare

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>minimum accomplished. Um. And I think it's interestingly we've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of covered a bunch of movies that I think would

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<v Speaker 1>fall into second wave feminism recently, where it was like

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>white women should be allowed to work in an office.

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>That was part of what was accomplished First Wives Club,

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<v Speaker 1>And as the show has continued, we've tried to contextualize

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<v Speaker 1>these a little better. Instead of I think maybe three

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>years ago, we would have been like, oh, this is

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>so this movie from nine seventy is horrible to women, right,

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and we've had criticism for that and like fairly taken.

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:19.800
<v Speaker 1>We we've been trying to contextualize. Okay, it doesn't read

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>as narrative, right, but oftentimes those movies do the smallest

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>bit of progress that allow more progress to take place later.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously we would prefer radical change but there are I

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<v Speaker 1>think we have covered movies that represent incremental change that

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't read well today but does represent progress for that

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>time of yes, yes, I agree. Yeah. And as far

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<v Speaker 1>as like kind of the backlash that more progressive movies

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 1>have been exposed to, I'm thinking, like all the backlash

0:43:55.400 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that the all female reboot of Ghostbusters got, every in

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>cell boy on the internet was like, this is ruining

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 1>my childhood. It's very revealing. Ye Like, if there are

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>executives out there, studios and networks who are listening to

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>these shitty, regressive people and their bad opinions and they're like, well,

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, the in cells didn't like this movie, so

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>we better not make any more of movies like it.

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Then I mean, I hope that doesn't happen, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's very frustrating who executives choose to take seriously

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and they don't. It's weird because I feel like now

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<v Speaker 1>with social media, in some ways, we have more of

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a voice than ever in having a say, But then

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>so do shitty guys, right, like little baby boys have

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>more of a voice than ever. And you can see

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<v Speaker 1>that reddit for some cinema trends and it's so it's

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, as with all things Internet, it is a

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 1>blessing and a curse. Yeah, it's about context. I think

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<v Speaker 1>of how a movie reads now, and there's always I mean,

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>anytime there's any sort of progress made or social change

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and cultural evolution, there's definitely going to be backlash, and

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>we you just have to power through it. You just

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>have to keep fighting the good fight and not succumb

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to the regressive tendencies in the status quo because they

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>are harmful and I wanted to. I guess this is

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>a good opportunity to shout out. Are older listeners of

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the show too, It's like I always especially like I mean,

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:40.879
<v Speaker 1>our main chance to interact is online, but also at

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>live shows of it is nice to see listeners who

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we're growing up during the second or we were

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>growing up during third wave feminism of like girl power, um,

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 1>but to see women who grew up during various waves

0:45:55.960 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>of feminism just sharing their experience and talking about how, like, okay,

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>I was a part of the second wave. Like I've

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>had conversations with listeners who were like, I was a

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>part of the second wave feminist movement. But now I

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 1>see that you know, if you get stuck in a

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>certain movement, then you're just denying yourself progress, and that's

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>how we get turfs um, which is just like yeah,

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, we want to thank our older listeners who

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>are keeping their minds open and we promised to do

0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the same. Yes, thanks Stacy. Let's close up with a cup,

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's close out with a couple of fun ones. Yeah. Yeah,

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately we won't have time to get to every question.

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>We've had to skip some. We read them all, We

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>read them all and appreciate there's only so much time.

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to take this quick question from Jack. Would

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 1>you ever consider writing a Becktel cast book? Yes, someone

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 1>should contact us. But here's the t Jack no Ends asked.

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's a question from Michelle. When will you release an

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 1>episode about Santa University when someone asks me to make it? Oh? Right,

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 1>because you have to. We have to have to exist first,

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>let's be produced, and then we will do the episode.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 1>A few people asked, yes, A few people have asked,

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>who's our dream guest? Even if it's not realistic, or

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe it is, who knows? We got Alfred, We got Alfred.

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>We can do anything. Who want to have Alison Bechtel?

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Of course, Yes, Alison Bechtel would be a dream guest. Absolutely.

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 1>People always ask us also if we if she knows

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>about the show. Um, we don't know, she should I

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>hope by now, I would think by now she does. UM.

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>So if anyone has any contexts out there and wants

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to hook it up to have her come on, we'd

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 1>love to have her. Um. They're also Liz Wallace, who

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is the other half of the Bechtel Wallace Testament. Great. Um.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 1>I would love Rashida Jones. I would love to have

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>of I would love to have Gloria Calderon Kellett. I'm

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>not sure if she is one of the only female

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Latin X showrunners working today. She's very online, she's very

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 1>cool and we follow each other on Twitter and I'm

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 1>always afraid to teeter her. She's really cool and she

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>she's the showrunner for one Day at a time on Netflix. Um,

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I'd love to have her on for me.

0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Another one would be Laverne Cox I think would be Yeah.

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have Jessica Williams. Yes. I would

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>love to have Jenny Nicholson. She's a YouTuber that who

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I admire. Also Cat Black as one of my favorite YouTubers.

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Who else, I mean just everyone, Weatherspoon, Meryl Streep, Meryl Streep,

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Nicole Brown. If that Nicole Brown would be an amazing guest.

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:56.320
<v Speaker 1>She's so funny, She's so funny, and she seems cool.

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm just picking people that I want to hang out with. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There's so there's so many people tweet

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:03.360
<v Speaker 1>at them and say, hey, have you heard of this?

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>You should be on it, especially if you know that

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.400
<v Speaker 1>they live in our area. We have a whole thing

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 1>where we have to convince people we exist a lot

0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:12.800
<v Speaker 1>um and so if you can be assist. Oh, anyone

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 1>who was in a Christmas Prince Wow, I was not

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 1>expecting you to say that, but I agree welcome them,

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>especially the two different actors who play her dad, Rudy.

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>It's Bernie Sanders can come on the podcast. Okay, let's

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>do two more. This one's from Sarah. I'd love to

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>know if you get any weird or funny reactions from

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>people about the show. You can't be a male comment.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.279
<v Speaker 1>You can't not not Actually we have I take that back.

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of wonderful male identifying listeners who

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>have open hearts and minds, we're not talking about them,

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the other ones. Uh. We've as I

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>think early on, it's kind of tapered off. I think

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of found our audience and people who it's

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty clear what the show is about. And if

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you hate us and what we're talking about and are listening,

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>why are you torturing yourself? Like, no need to do that,

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 1>but we we used to get some male comments like

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>one star objectifies men. Oh boy, So that is a

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:32.919
<v Speaker 1>nice reminder to go on whatever podcast platform you use. Yes,

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 1>give us nice things, same say nice things. Give us

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 1>high ratings. Caitlin doesn't read our iTunes reviews, but I

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>do because I didn't hate myself. I don't know, but

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it's reading our one star ratings can be fun, but

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 1>please don't write one. Here's our most recent No, no, no,

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a nice one. It's five stars. The subject line

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<v Speaker 1>is p erasure from home alone. I guess so. I

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:04.040
<v Speaker 1>don't remember saying that, but someone said I literally spit

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>out my coffee and someone said p erasure during the episode.

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess that. Yes. Um, well, a fun fact about me.

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I forget everything I say immediately after I say it. Um,

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a reaction that I still get quite a bit from people.

0:51:21.640 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 1>And this This is sometimes people who know about the show,

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:26.799
<v Speaker 1>but people will be talking about a movie and they

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:28.759
<v Speaker 1>only want to know if it passed the Bechtel test

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>or not, and I'm like, my god. We spend two

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>minutes maybe of every episode discussing the Bechtel test, and

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.840
<v Speaker 1>then the rest of it is everything else there is

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, but people still only seem to be

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>concerned about whether or not the movie passes at the

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Bechtel test, and I'm like, I barely care anymore. I truly.

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>We don't. Sometimes forget to do it. I often forget

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:53.839
<v Speaker 1>to pay attention because it's just I think, with like

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<v Speaker 1>the three years that we've been doing the show, three

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<v Speaker 1>plus years, we've had so many more interest conversations and

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many more important things to talk about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a jumping off point. We've been saying it from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>but we meet it now more than ever. It is funny, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you especially because it makes me so uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>to like, I don't know, like when you meet someone

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, what do you do? And then they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>but what's it about? I'm like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, please just let me sit here. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>like when you we're like, oh, it's about the vital test,

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<v Speaker 1>and then someone's like and then they're like, so you

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<v Speaker 1>just figure out it passes. I'm like, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have sex with you, please please stop. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but male comments and then people being

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<v Speaker 1>like should it take two hours to figure that? I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're stupid? I don't know. Um, people are wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone listening right now is great. It's great unless you're

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<v Speaker 1>not unless you're in the middle of reading a one

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<v Speaker 1>star all right, Well, uh one last question, very important,

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<v Speaker 1>very strong answer comes from Chris. Can we start a

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<v Speaker 1>team moist scabs for all these centrists out there? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't know so centrism. Who are you? Joe Biden?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like centrism. But know what I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 1>that what if the scab thing is a spectrum and

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<v Speaker 1>we're being too binary about it? No? Okay, well, Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>says no, I say yes to say no by scats.

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<v Speaker 1>It's team dry scabs, is the answer. If you like

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<v Speaker 1>moist scabs, you're Joe Biden. Sorry. Centrism I gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm leading. So I've always been team wet Scabs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes you have, but maybe because no, because I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>cool and smart. I like this team moist Gabs. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the This is one of those things where you

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<v Speaker 1>create something and then it becomes out of your control

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very uncomfortable. I think that's what I'm experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. Um, I am very hesitant about moist Scabs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try to keep an open mind, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like thinking about it. Dry Scabs. Sound of shuffling cards

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<v Speaker 1>all the way. Um, alright, folks, alright, we actually we

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