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Speaker 1: tell you what the podcast is. Sure. We talk about

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Speaker 1: many directors of colors, so many female directors, so queer

421
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Speaker 1: directors are still waiting for their first opportunity at a

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Speaker 1: mainstream movie grow Up. I agree. Okay, next question, should

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Speaker 1: we just pick one or two of these? Oh, Lindsay, Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: I will will answer two of these, first one being

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Speaker 1: are there any previous spectael Cast episodes that you think

426
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Speaker 1: you got wrong and would change your ratings? Um? I

427
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Speaker 1: can't think of anything specifically. I stand by all of

428
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Speaker 1: my comments in the Matrix episode. Uh, but I think

429
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Speaker 1: just in general, Caitlin, I'm curious to your thoughts too.

430
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Speaker 1: But I mean, we started this podcast right after the election,

431
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Speaker 1: which wasn't planned but depressingly well timed, which was over

432
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Speaker 1: three years ago and before. I don't know, Like, I

433
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Speaker 1: think that the discourse has kind of grown with our

434
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Speaker 1: show and we have listened a lot, and so I

435
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Speaker 1: think especially in the first year of the podcast, especially

436
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Speaker 1: maybe the first six months, and a lot of like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I just know that discourse wise,

438
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Speaker 1: I I've grown a lot in the past three years.

439
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot, and especially from just like talking

440
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Speaker 1: to our guests and just seeking out the information more so,

441
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Speaker 1: there's I'm sure and I don't go back and listen

442
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Speaker 1: to them. I'm sure that, like, especially in the first

443
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Speaker 1: six months the show, there were some things that either

444
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Speaker 1: we missed entirely that will be very obvious to us

445
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: now or we're just like, is that your take, Jamie?

446
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Speaker 1: Is it? So? Yeah, we've We've we've been growing up definitely. Um,

447
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: there's a few tropes too that I've learned about or

448
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: noticed more since we started. Like even for when we

449
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: did the Force Awakens episode, that was after we had

450
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Speaker 1: already been doing the podcast for over a year, But

451
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Speaker 1: I wasn't that tuned into like the Merry Sue trope

452
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Speaker 1: at that point, and I think we didn't really discuss

453
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Speaker 1: that on that episode, about how while it is nice

454
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Speaker 1: for a Star Wars movie to have a female protagonist,

455
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Speaker 1: I didn't really acknowledge that she falls into like that

456
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Speaker 1: Mary trope thing. So yeah, I think, yeah, it is

457
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Speaker 1: mostly our earlier episodes. We've been learning along with everyone else,

458
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Speaker 1: and a lot of times just like it's been a

459
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Speaker 1: slow process of just like making sure that we are

460
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Speaker 1: fine the right perspectives for the right episodes. And yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: like they think that there were early episodes where like

462
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Speaker 1: if there was a queer storyline, we wouldn't always seek

463
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Speaker 1: out the queer perspective on it, and it's kind of

464
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Speaker 1: freeball it and we know better. No, I don't know,

465
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Speaker 1: we've definitely yeah, I mean we always acknowledge when we

466
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Speaker 1: have blind spots, and I think our blind spots were

467
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Speaker 1: I think we've narrowed them down a bit in the

468
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Speaker 1: years of doing the podcast, but I think they were

469
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Speaker 1: quite at first. So yeah, it hasn't been has been

470
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Speaker 1: an educational experience for us, UM, and we are always learning.

471
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Speaker 1: We're never the final word and anything. So another question,

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Speaker 1: are there any movies that get requested all the time

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Speaker 1: that you simply refused to do? Caitlyen you said he

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Speaker 1: had an answer for this, Yes you do. UM. I

475
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Speaker 1: never ever, ever, ever want to do a movie directed

476
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Speaker 1: by Ari Astor. I know you say. I feel like

477
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Speaker 1: we're going to end up having to do it, though

478
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Speaker 1: I'm sure we will, but after seeing well that that's

479
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Speaker 1: been another question that it's not even that I hate

480
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Speaker 1: him as a filmmaker, it's just that his movies punish

481
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Speaker 1: his audience, and I hate movies that I feel punished

482
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Speaker 1: by for just watching them. I don't mind movies that

483
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Speaker 1: are punishing you on purpose. Sometimes I don't like his

484
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Speaker 1: movies m which is a question that we got. We

485
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Speaker 1: got wide in either of you like Midsummer. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: something about it for weeks. Well, I didn't like Midsummer,

487
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Speaker 1: but I did see it three times? So what did

488
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Speaker 1: I say about me? But it means I really thought

489
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Speaker 1: about do I like Midsummer? I really thought about it.

490
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: I was also under the influence of Well told her

491
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Speaker 1: who I had a real moment for him over the summer,

492
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Speaker 1: Ari asked her, is doing the twenty nineteen thing that

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Speaker 1: I don't like where he is? Like, women are front

494
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Speaker 1: and center in my movies, but I never have a

495
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Speaker 1: female co writer, and all my female characters are written weird,

496
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Speaker 1: Like great, why didn't you like Midsummer? Horror movies just

497
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Speaker 1: aren't really my genre, and his are so unsettling that

498
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Speaker 1: I just you're awful after I've seen them. And I

499
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Speaker 1: don't like movies that make me feel awful. I like romps.

500
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Speaker 1: I like movies that make me feel good, So I

501
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: like horror movies and I like feeling awful. So that's

502
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Speaker 1: not quite but I I didn't like Well, yeah, I

503
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Speaker 1: think that that movie more than any other I saw

504
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Speaker 1: this year. Hit that trope on the head of like

505
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Speaker 1: touting this female protagonist, but so many tropes are present,

506
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Speaker 1: whereas she is strictly defined by her trauma. There's just

507
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Speaker 1: it's just a lot of tropes that I feel like

508
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: didn't really that everyone got to pass on because they're like,

509
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Speaker 1: it's a breakup movie, and I'm like, but but but

510
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: but but I just yeah, I didn't. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I I love how his movies look. They look good,

512
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: and he gets really good performances. I think he also

513
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Speaker 1: tends to demonize mental illness quite definitely demonize his mental illness.

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Speaker 1: Hereditary is where that is, and the horror genre has

515
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Speaker 1: done well in some instances, but in others have really

516
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: sold people with mental illnesses, just completely sold them out. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I I just think that he has a lot

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Speaker 1: of blind spots that he has maybe not been forthcoming with.

519
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Speaker 1: And it's just like it's okay to have blind spots,

520
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Speaker 1: but you know, it's a process and seek out. It

521
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Speaker 1: is frustrating to me that he has not had any

522
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Speaker 1: female co writers but only writes movies with female protagonists.

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Speaker 1: Like that is a glaring blind spot and I think

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Speaker 1: it comes up in both of his movies very clearly,

525
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Speaker 1: and it sucks because I think he's a good director

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Speaker 1: and I would encourage him to maybe get over himself

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Also, if you've listen to an interview

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Speaker 1: with him, oh boy, the eyes are you're like, is

529
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Speaker 1: this a freshman film seminar? Shut up? Um. So that's

530
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Speaker 1: two answers in one. Yeah. Great. Next question comes from

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Speaker 1: Amber asks can there be more people of color guests? Answer? Yes,

532
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 1: we should do that. Yes, more. We're always making an

533
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: effort to make the show as inclusive is humanly possible.

534
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: But obviously yeah, they're They're like, we always always room

535
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: there and there will be. And if there's a specific

536
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Speaker 1: person comedian, writer of color who you would love to

537
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: see their perspective on the show, let us know and

538
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: also tweet at them in case they don't know we exist.

539
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: And I think that we're a fake podcast. Sometimes will happen.

540
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, point taken. There's always more work and more

541
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: perspectives and we'll keep on getting them. Yes, indeed, thank

542
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Speaker 1: you for the question. Next one, Henry asks, if you

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Speaker 1: could redo any of the movies you've already done, which

544
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Speaker 1: would you do except Titanic? In doubt? Mean, Um, I

545
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: would read. I mean, I think it's really just like

546
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Speaker 1: some of our first episode. I would redo. I think

547
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: we should redo Kill Bill, possibly with Zack Sherwin. Again.

548
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Interesting because I just know, first of all, we didn't

549
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Speaker 1: even give ratings for that episode. Apparently we didn't have

550
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: the Nipple scale yet. And I just room giving that

551
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: movie so much credit that I would no longer give

552
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: it now. Um, with the perspective of time, I think

553
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: that I would redo Kill Bill. I would redo Mad

554
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: Max Fury Road because that has become truly one of

555
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: my favorite movies of all time. And I watched this

556
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: really good video essay series about it that brings up

557
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: a lot of points that I don't think we discussed.

558
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was another early episode. In the early episode. Yeah,

559
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: I would probably redo that one too and give it

560
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: more credit, even though I still don't enjoy the genre. Yeah,

561
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: that was the steam Steam I mean, and I still

562
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: don't like steep aesthetics, but I would give I would

563
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: give the characters more credit this time. I actually might

564
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: have us redo that one for a Matreon episode for

565
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: my birthday month this year. Yeah that's fun. Yeah, Yeah,

566
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, for the most part, it's

567
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you can definitely track our growth throughout the episodes,

568
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't redo the matrix. But that's for sure.

569
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Speaker 1: Oh well, because I've seen that movie. We'll see what

570
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: happens when my birthday month comes around. Don't don't. That's

571
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Speaker 1: my I veto. I'm not going to do it, all right,

572
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do one by myself. Then, No, you can't

573
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: tell one by yourself. That's cheating. Oh my god, Okay,

574
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: we can do we can do. Okay, here's compromise. I'll

575
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Speaker 1: do a sequel. No, those are so bad, I won't

576
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Speaker 1: want to at all. Okay, okay, wait, next question. Our

577
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: next questions come from Douglas. The first question is are

578
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Speaker 1: there any all female reboots? You actually want to say? Um,

579
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that. It would have to be really

580
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: really good. I mean, I I always air on the

581
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: side of just let there be new stories in general,

582
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Speaker 1: but new stories about women and people of color and

583
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: queer people. At the work of updating a story that

584
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: it very least has internalized misogyny to not have internalized misogyny,

585
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: I feel like we've seen it a lot of times.

586
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: It is rarely worked in a really really really affect

587
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: to way. For me at least, I would much prefer

588
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: to see new stories right, And we might have touched

589
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: on this even earlier in this episode already. But for me,

590
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: the all female reboot, it's like the industries they have

591
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: this notion that, oh, no one's gonna want to see

592
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Speaker 1: a movie with a female protagonist unless it's already were

593
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: tried and true recognizable property, which is not true. I

594
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: don't know why they think that, And and there's so many,

595
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: like proven box office things that are like, yeah, that's

596
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: not true, but just there's not enough female executives. I'll

597
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: answer this question by saying that because this franchise is

598
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: very problematic, but also like near and dear to me,

599
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: I would like to see a female reboot of Indiana

600
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: Jones and I went to play Indiana Jones Done. I'd

601
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: see it, thank you. I don't. I can't think of

602
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: a property off the top of my head that I

603
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: would want to see an all female reboot. There's like

604
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: some extended universes I would like to see female stories

605
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: inside of maybe, but not beat for beat. Yeah, just

606
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: give me news stories. Give writers and directors a chance. Yes.

607
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 1: Another question from Douglas quote. Also, as movies hopefully become

608
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: more inclusive, should we assume that any conversation about a

609
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: trans man passes the test? That a passing conversation could

610
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Speaker 1: be between any combination of female, transmail and non binary

611
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: characters unquote. Interesting, very interesting question. I would imagine that

612
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: the test should be on the gender you identify as.

613
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: I also think that there is space in the test

614
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Speaker 1: to be inclusive. I've seen versions of the Battel tests

615
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: that it's like not just female identifying characters, it's also

616
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: like it's open to like fems and like non binary characters,

617
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: which I am totally four. Um. So if it's like

618
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: two non binary people talking about another non binary person,

619
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Speaker 1: I would say that passes the Becktel test. I'm really

620
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: interested to hear Alison Bechtel's thoughts on that too, just

621
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Speaker 1: because she's still a working writer, still like an activist.

622
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine that she would have the

623
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Speaker 1: test be as inclusive as humanly possible. Yeah, I mean,

624
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: we don't make the rules in terms of the time,

625
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: We just choose the way we interpreted. And unfortunately, because

626
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of transport representation on screen, this

627
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: is not really a question we've ever come up against

628
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: in the movies that we've covered. Yeah, no, but I

629
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: agree with you. I mean the test should and I

630
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: think was designed to be as inclusive as possible, and

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Speaker 1: it will, and it wasn't even designed for to actually

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Speaker 1: be applied. The way that we're applying it is comic.

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Speaker 1: It's from a comic and to watch out for collection

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Speaker 1: and um, the context of like the scene that it

635
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Speaker 1: appears in is to lesbian characters talking about this test

636
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Speaker 1: and they're saying, oh, I pay attention to see if

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Speaker 1: women talk to each other in a movie, because if

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Speaker 1: they're if they're talking to each other but not about men,

639
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Speaker 1: then I can sort of ship them together and pretend

640
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Speaker 1: that they are queer women because there's especially at the

641
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Speaker 1: time that this was written and then also still today,

642
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Speaker 1: there there was so little queer representation. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that that for now is kind of like a person

644
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Speaker 1: to person, how do you interpret the test? For our purposes,

645
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Speaker 1: we want to make it as inclusive as possible and

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Speaker 1: as you interpret it, I guess my my thing is

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Speaker 1: just like, as long as you're comfortable with the way

648
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Speaker 1: that the test is treating gender in regards to you

649
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Speaker 1: and your identity. You know, we're not going to tell

650
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Speaker 1: you you're wrong. So yeah, the test is open interpretation.

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Speaker 1: I think supposed to be inclusive as possible. Indeed, thank

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Speaker 1: you Douglas, Yes, thank you. Grace asks is Robert Evans

653
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Speaker 1: ever going to be a guest? Yes, at some point.

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Speaker 1: The thing is Probert doesn't live here anymore, so it's hard.

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Speaker 1: We don't get to see him very often. But when

656
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Speaker 1: the stars align, you know he's going to be. We've

657
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: had email chains about it and it's like, are we

658
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Speaker 1: going to ask him to talk about what he wants

659
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: to talk about, which is guns or so. If you

660
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Speaker 1: don't know who Robert Evans is, he's the host of

661
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Speaker 1: Behind the Bastards and a part of the iHeart Radio

662
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: family of podcasts, A dear friend. If you haven't listened

663
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: to a show, it's wonderful. Also worse here ever with

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Speaker 1: Cody Johnson and Katie Still. Yeah, I mean, we love Robert.

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Speaker 1: We want to have him in the show. I was

666
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Speaker 1: pushing for him to do the Handam Montana movie, right,

667
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Speaker 1: which I still if you want that episode tweeted Robert,

668
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Speaker 1: remind him and then the next time we're in the

669
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Speaker 1: same city will make it happen, but we're we haven't

670
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Speaker 1: been avoiding it right to happy. He just doesn't live

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Speaker 1: in l A anymore. He just doesn't and good and

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Speaker 1: honestly smart. Grace also asked one of the most popular

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Speaker 1: episodes slash order our favorite episodes popular episodes, I don't

674
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Speaker 1: really know, just a little peak behind the curtain. We

675
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Speaker 1: really don't know much about our numbers, which we don't

676
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Speaker 1: for a very long time. The Twilight episode was our

677
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Speaker 1: most popular. I feel like Twilight and Spider Man two

678
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Speaker 1: were up there with the most popular episodes for some time.

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Speaker 1: I have to imagine that that has changed. I would

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Speaker 1: imagine the Aaron Brockovitch is probably up there at this point. Um.

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Speaker 1: My best guess is the more popular the movie, the

682
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Speaker 1: more popular the episode, because we've done movies that are

683
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Speaker 1: a little more you know, off the beaten path, and

684
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Speaker 1: those numbers were far lower. Believe it or not. Um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, like I remember, for the longest time, it

686
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Speaker 1: was Twilight, Twilight a long time. I mean, honestly, I

687
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Speaker 1: kind of still hope it's storylight. But yeah, I would

688
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Speaker 1: be curious to know, you know, beats us beats us

689
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Speaker 1: to answer your question favorite episodes love actually is still

690
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Speaker 1: going to be an all time favorite for me. I

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Speaker 1: think one of my favorite a recent favorite would be

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Speaker 1: the Santa Claus because like conversations that I really I

693
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Speaker 1: really loved our Lion King episode with Now that was great.

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Speaker 1: That was a really good cover. I love the also

695
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Speaker 1: Black Panther episode witho A Class. I always am going

696
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Speaker 1: to love the snow White episode with Jack. That was

697
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Speaker 1: when we were singing so much um. That was really fun.

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Speaker 1: One of the funniest ones that we've done recently I

699
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Speaker 1: think was good Will Hunting with Ya. That was so funny.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite live episodes we've done it was

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Speaker 1: Waiting Exhale with Aaron Haynes Whack. That was so much fun.

702
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Speaker 1: Lazy episodes favorite and I think I hate about you

703
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Speaker 1: the best are always going to be. I just yeah,

704
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Speaker 1: we have great guests and we always have fun. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, bringing on with Maggie is really fun. I

706
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Speaker 1: just I love everyone. I love all of our guests. Yeah,

707
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Speaker 1: I couldn't pick an all time favorite, but those are

708
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Speaker 1: the ones that jump to mind of like, yeah, same, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's take another quick break. But I guess what gang

710
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Speaker 1: We've got more questions when We're back all right. Next

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Speaker 1: question comes from Stacy. This one is rather long. It says,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel the evolution of feminism, specifically second

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Speaker 1: and third wave affected the portrayal of women in movies

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Speaker 1: over the years, both positively and negatively through both the

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Speaker 1: advancement of women and inevitable backlash. For example, there does

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Speaker 1: not seem to be a linear improvement in the portrayal

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Speaker 1: of women or minorities in film, and often seem to

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Speaker 1: be steps taken backwards. How much of that is a

719
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Speaker 1: type of protest by those in power trying to stop

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Speaker 1: any change in the status quo or recapture the good

721
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Speaker 1: old days. This is an excellent, complicated question. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: I do agree that the portrayal of women in movies

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Speaker 1: has progressed as time goes on, especially through various waves

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Speaker 1: of feminism that have taken place. And I also agree

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Speaker 1: that the majority of this progress has applied to the

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Speaker 1: way that white women are, white hetero women are portrayed,

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Speaker 1: that as we've discussed on the show many times, that

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Speaker 1: they tend to be the first stop of who is

729
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Speaker 1: afforded progress, and that women of color and queer women

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Speaker 1: and trans women and just just everyone else kind of

731
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Speaker 1: gets left behind and the progress is much slower. And again,

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Speaker 1: like that is it's very frustrating because you know, Hollywood

733
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Speaker 1: is this huge bureaucracy, still majority patriarchy, still majority white.

734
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Speaker 1: So you have to scream at the top of your lungs,

735
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Speaker 1: you have to vote with your money, you have to

736
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 1: like all this frustrating stuff just to get the bare

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Speaker 1: minimum accomplished. Um. And I think it's interestingly we've kind

738
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Speaker 1: of covered a bunch of movies that I think would

739
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Speaker 1: fall into second wave feminism recently, where it was like

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Speaker 1: white women should be allowed to work in an office.

741
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Speaker 1: That was part of what was accomplished First Wives Club,

742
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Speaker 1: And as the show has continued, we've tried to contextualize

743
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Speaker 1: these a little better. Instead of I think maybe three

744
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Speaker 1: years ago, we would have been like, oh, this is

745
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Speaker 1: so this movie from nine seventy is horrible to women, right,

746
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Speaker 1: and we've had criticism for that and like fairly taken.

747
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Speaker 1: We we've been trying to contextualize. Okay, it doesn't read

748
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Speaker 1: as narrative, right, but oftentimes those movies do the smallest

749
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Speaker 1: bit of progress that allow more progress to take place later.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we would prefer radical change but there are I

751
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Speaker 1: think we have covered movies that represent incremental change that

752
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: doesn't read well today but does represent progress for that

753
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: time of yes, yes, I agree. Yeah. And as far

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Speaker 1: as like kind of the backlash that more progressive movies

755
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Speaker 1: have been exposed to, I'm thinking, like all the backlash

756
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Speaker 1: that the all female reboot of Ghostbusters got, every in

757
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: cell boy on the internet was like, this is ruining

758
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: my childhood. It's very revealing. Ye Like, if there are

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Speaker 1: executives out there, studios and networks who are listening to

760
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: these shitty, regressive people and their bad opinions and they're like, well,

761
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Speaker 1: you know, the in cells didn't like this movie, so

762
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Speaker 1: we better not make any more of movies like it.

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Speaker 1: Then I mean, I hope that doesn't happen, but I

764
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Speaker 1: think it's very frustrating who executives choose to take seriously

765
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: and they don't. It's weird because I feel like now

766
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Speaker 1: with social media, in some ways, we have more of

767
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: a voice than ever in having a say, But then

768
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: so do shitty guys, right, like little baby boys have

769
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: more of a voice than ever. And you can see

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Speaker 1: that reddit for some cinema trends and it's so it's

771
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, as with all things Internet, it is a

772
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: blessing and a curse. Yeah, it's about context. I think

773
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: of how a movie reads now, and there's always I mean,

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00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: anytime there's any sort of progress made or social change

775
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: and cultural evolution, there's definitely going to be backlash, and

776
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: we you just have to power through it. You just

777
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: have to keep fighting the good fight and not succumb

778
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: to the regressive tendencies in the status quo because they

779
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: are harmful and I wanted to. I guess this is

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00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: a good opportunity to shout out. Are older listeners of

781
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: the show too, It's like I always especially like I mean,

782
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: our main chance to interact is online, but also at

783
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: live shows of it is nice to see listeners who

784
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: maybe we're growing up during the second or we were

785
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: growing up during third wave feminism of like girl power, um,

786
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: but to see women who grew up during various waves

787
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: of feminism just sharing their experience and talking about how, like, okay,

788
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: I was a part of the second wave. Like I've

789
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: had conversations with listeners who were like, I was a

790
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: part of the second wave feminist movement. But now I

791
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: see that you know, if you get stuck in a

792
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: certain movement, then you're just denying yourself progress, and that's

793
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: how we get turfs um, which is just like yeah,

794
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: so yeah, we want to thank our older listeners who

795
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: are keeping their minds open and we promised to do

796
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: the same. Yes, thanks Stacy. Let's close up with a cup,

797
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Let's close out with a couple of fun ones. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we won't have time to get to every question.

799
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: We've had to skip some. We read them all, We

800
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: read them all and appreciate there's only so much time.

801
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to take this quick question from Jack. Would

802
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: you ever consider writing a Becktel cast book? Yes, someone

803
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: should contact us. But here's the t Jack no Ends asked.

804
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: Here's a question from Michelle. When will you release an

805
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: episode about Santa University when someone asks me to make it? Oh? Right,

806
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: because you have to. We have to have to exist first,

807
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: let's be produced, and then we will do the episode.

808
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: A few people asked, yes, A few people have asked,

809
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: who's our dream guest? Even if it's not realistic, or

810
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: maybe it is, who knows? We got Alfred, We got Alfred.

811
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Speaker 1: We can do anything. Who want to have Alison Bechtel?

812
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: Of course, Yes, Alison Bechtel would be a dream guest. Absolutely.

813
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: People always ask us also if we if she knows

814
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: about the show. Um, we don't know, she should I

815
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: hope by now, I would think by now she does. UM.

816
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: So if anyone has any contexts out there and wants

817
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: to hook it up to have her come on, we'd

818
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: love to have her. Um. They're also Liz Wallace, who

819
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: is the other half of the Bechtel Wallace Testament. Great. Um.

820
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: I would love Rashida Jones. I would love to have

821
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: of I would love to have Gloria Calderon Kellett. I'm

822
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: not sure if she is one of the only female

823
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Speaker 1: Latin X showrunners working today. She's very online, she's very

824
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: cool and we follow each other on Twitter and I'm

825
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: always afraid to teeter her. She's really cool and she

826
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Speaker 1: she's the showrunner for one Day at a time on Netflix. Um,

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Speaker 1: and so I'd love to have her on for me.

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Speaker 1: Another one would be Laverne Cox I think would be Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I would love to have Jessica Williams. Yes. I would

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Speaker 1: love to have Jenny Nicholson. She's a YouTuber that who

831
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Speaker 1: I admire. Also Cat Black as one of my favorite YouTubers.

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00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: Who else, I mean just everyone, Weatherspoon, Meryl Streep, Meryl Streep,

833
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: Nicole Brown. If that Nicole Brown would be an amazing guest.

834
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Speaker 1: She's so funny, She's so funny, and she seems cool.

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Speaker 1: I'm just picking people that I want to hang out with. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's so there's so many people tweet

837
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: at them and say, hey, have you heard of this?

838
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: You should be on it, especially if you know that

839
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: they live in our area. We have a whole thing

840
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: where we have to convince people we exist a lot

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Speaker 1: um and so if you can be assist. Oh, anyone

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Speaker 1: who was in a Christmas Prince Wow, I was not

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Speaker 1: expecting you to say that, but I agree welcome them,

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Speaker 1: especially the two different actors who play her dad, Rudy.

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Speaker 1: It's Bernie Sanders can come on the podcast. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: do two more. This one's from Sarah. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: know if you get any weird or funny reactions from

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Speaker 1: people about the show. You can't be a male comment.

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Speaker 1: You can't not not Actually we have I take that back.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of wonderful male identifying listeners who

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Speaker 1: have open hearts and minds, we're not talking about them,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the other ones. Uh. We've as I

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Speaker 1: think early on, it's kind of tapered off. I think

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Speaker 1: we've kind of found our audience and people who it's

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Speaker 1: it's pretty clear what the show is about. And if

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Speaker 1: you hate us and what we're talking about and are listening,

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Speaker 1: why are you torturing yourself? Like, no need to do that,

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Speaker 1: but we we used to get some male comments like

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Speaker 1: one star objectifies men. Oh boy, So that is a

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Speaker 1: nice reminder to go on whatever podcast platform you use. Yes,

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Speaker 1: give us nice things, same say nice things. Give us

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Speaker 1: high ratings. Caitlin doesn't read our iTunes reviews, but I

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Speaker 1: do because I didn't hate myself. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: it's reading our one star ratings can be fun, but

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Speaker 1: please don't write one. Here's our most recent No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's a nice one. It's five stars. The subject line

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Speaker 1: is p erasure from home alone. I guess so. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember saying that, but someone said I literally spit

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Speaker 1: out my coffee and someone said p erasure during the episode.

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Speaker 1: I guess that. Yes. Um, well, a fun fact about me.

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Speaker 1: I forget everything I say immediately after I say it. Um,

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Speaker 1: a reaction that I still get quite a bit from people.

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Speaker 1: And this This is sometimes people who know about the show,

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Speaker 1: but people will be talking about a movie and they

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Speaker 1: only want to know if it passed the Bechtel test

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Speaker 1: or not, and I'm like, my god. We spend two

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Speaker 1: minutes maybe of every episode discussing the Bechtel test, and

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Speaker 1: then the rest of it is everything else there is

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Speaker 1: concerned about whether or not the movie passes at the

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Speaker 1: Bechtel test, and I'm like, I barely care anymore. I truly.

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Speaker 1: We don't. Sometimes forget to do it. I often forget

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Speaker 1: to pay attention because it's just I think, with like

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Speaker 1: the three years that we've been doing the show, three

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Speaker 1: plus years, we've had so many more interest conversations and

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Speaker 1: there's so many more important things to talk about. It's

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Speaker 1: a jumping off point. We've been saying it from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: but we meet it now more than ever. It is funny, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like when you especially because it makes me so uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: to like, I don't know, like when you meet someone

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Speaker 1: and they're like, what do you do? And then they're like,

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Speaker 1: but what's it about? I'm like, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do this, please just let me sit here. Um. But

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Speaker 1: like when you we're like, oh, it's about the vital test,

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Speaker 1: and then someone's like and then they're like, so you

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Speaker 1: just figure out it passes. I'm like, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to have sex with you, please please stop. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but male comments and then people being

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Speaker 1: like should it take two hours to figure that? I

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Speaker 1: think we're stupid? I don't know. Um, people are wild.

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Speaker 1: Everyone listening right now is great. It's great unless you're

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Speaker 1: not unless you're in the middle of reading a one

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Speaker 1: star all right, Well, uh one last question, very important,

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Speaker 1: very strong answer comes from Chris. Can we start a

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Speaker 1: team moist scabs for all these centrists out there? No? No,

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Speaker 1: we can't know so centrism. Who are you? Joe Biden?

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Speaker 1: I don't like centrism. But know what I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: that what if the scab thing is a spectrum and

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Speaker 1: we're being too binary about it? No? Okay, well, Jamie

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Speaker 1: says no, I say yes to say no by scats.

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Speaker 1: It's team dry scabs, is the answer. If you like

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Speaker 1: moist scabs, you're Joe Biden. Sorry. Centrism I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm leading. So I've always been team wet Scabs.

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Speaker 1: Yes you have, but maybe because no, because I'm very

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Speaker 1: cool and smart. I like this team moist Gabs. This

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Speaker 1: is the This is one of those things where you

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Speaker 1: create something and then it becomes out of your control

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Speaker 1: and it's very uncomfortable. I think that's what I'm experience.

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Speaker 1: I understand. Um, I am very hesitant about moist Scabs.

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Speaker 1: I'll try to keep an open mind, but I don't

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Speaker 1: like thinking about it. Dry Scabs. Sound of shuffling cards

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Speaker 1: all the way. Um, alright, folks, alright, we actually we

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Speaker 1: have to go because we have to go back to

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Speaker 1: recording Matreon episodes. UM. So we hope you enjoyed this

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Speaker 1: Q and A episode. Thank you for listening. Happy twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on your main feed next week

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Speaker 1: with a normal episode with a guest in a movie

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Speaker 1: and all that chit you know and love from us.

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Speaker 1: UM In the meantime, Yeah, I give us one of

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Speaker 1: those five star reviews and join our matrio and join

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Speaker 1: the matri Matreon dot com slash beactel cast. Fun fact,

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Speaker 1: we're about to what It's January, so we're doing um,

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Speaker 1: what are we janet Flix, Jewary, Janetflix, Jewelry, janet Flix,

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Speaker 1: the janet Flix months. We should have waited till November

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Speaker 1: and done Netflix November. We couldn't wait. We couldn't wait,

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Speaker 1: simply couldn't. So this month on the Matreon, in addition

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Speaker 1: to all of our fifty episodes we've already published, we're

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Speaker 1: doing someone Great on Netflix, and then we're about to

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Speaker 1: do the Kissing Booth on Netflix. So if that's appealing

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Speaker 1: to you, hedn't ever check it out. You can check

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Speaker 1: us out on all the social media places at bechtel Cast.

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Speaker 1: You can shop some t shirts if you want, at

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Speaker 1: upcoming live shows in San Francisco, in Philadelphia, in New York.

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Speaker 1: Go to bechtel cast dot com shows. Yeah, we'll be

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Speaker 1: back next week. Thank you so much