WEBVTT - Inside the Jets with EA and Ethan Greenberg 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:08.160 Like the world you played to win the game. Jet 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:20.440 toucksdown your listening to the Official Jets podcast on Jets 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:26.720 three sixty production every New Year Jets Station. I'm Eric Ellen, 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:31.240 and we've also got Ethan Greenberg here at Vanderbilt Sports Expiras. Unfortunately, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:35.159 this is our last show of the two thousand seventeen season, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:36.920 but we promised to make it a good one to 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.320 Mario Davis and Josh Martin are here at the Windham 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.880 Hamilton's Park and we'll talk to them over the next hour, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.080 but we have a lot to get to Green's. First off, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.599 the Jets clean out there lockers. Monday, Todd Bowls addressed 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.520 the media, and then today in Flora Park, general manager 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.560 Mike mccagnet talked as well as Jets CEO and Chairman 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:04.320 Christopher Johnson. Starting with Coach Bowls here because he was 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.479 the first one to address the media for the final 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.959 time of the two thousand seventeen regular season. Here is 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:13.199 that Coach had no more excuses and the Jets finished 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.720 five and eleven seven straight years, that the Jets will 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.200 not be postseason bound. But the narrative moving forward is 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.080 no more excuses, No would have no shadows, no cutives. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.800 And that's something that Calvin Beacham reiterated in his season 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.280 ending press conference as well. Yeah, and top bowls. I 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.600 asked him about it on a follow up, you know, 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.759 he said, it's not that, guys main excuses this year, 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.119 it's just he wants that mindset going into two thousand 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.840 and eighteen. The external narrative for the New York Jets 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.760 entering the two thousand seventeen season was this is the 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.400 worst roster in football. They're not gonna win a game. Well, 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.000 they came out, they won three of their first five 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.520 five games with three and two with a three game 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.320 winning streak. There were three and two at one point 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.680 during the season, and then there was a point there 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.040 right around to buy when the Jets beat the Buffalo 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.800 Bills and people were talking about potentially this team could 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.080 be a wild card contender. With all that being said, Greens, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.280 nobody inside the building and we'll talk to Damaro Davis 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:13.080 and Josh Martin about just this. Nobody inside the building 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:17.640 was ever bought into what the external narrative was for 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.720 the New York Jets, and they made strides this year. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.320 The record says five and eleven just like two thousand 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:28.600 and sixteen, this team had an incredibly different feel to 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.440 it in the locker room in New England when the 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.320 season came to a conclusion, I would say polar opposites. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.200 And not only that, you talked about the external narrative, Well, 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.560 the internal narrative throughout the course of the season was 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.520 we're gonna stay together, We're gonna fight through adversity. And 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.560 in each and every game except maybe the Broncos game, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.120 you could sense that this team was in every game 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.960 and that's really what you want to see. And I 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.440 know you spoke to Mike mccagnet earlier earlier today, he said, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.760 we don't find solace and stuff like that. But if 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.560 you're a fan, you have to be someone excited to 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.000 at least see the progress that this team is based. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.760 The foundation, the foundation of the team that's being created 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.200 as you move forward now into two thousand eighteen inside 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.240 the Jets is supported by selective insurance responses. Everything. Now, 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.480 how are the New York Jets going to respond to 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:23.120 the off season. They will have plenty of salary cap space. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.440 It's an estimated right now anywhere between eighty million and 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:31.720 a hundred million dollars to spend. So Mike mcagnan was 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.280 asked about it today, he made it clear the Jets 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.160 will be very active in free agency. That's something that 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.560 Christopher Johnson said as well. And the only thing that 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.280 he said is, all right, so even though you have 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.560 all this money, we're not gonna go spend it in 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:48.120 one area or two areas because that's not what he 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.520 wants to do. And if you look at last season's 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.840 off season recipe, I understand the financial situation is a 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.880 little different this season. But Mike mccagnet went out there 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.800 and he made a selective signings when you look at 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.680 someone like Calvin Beecham who he brought in from Jacksonville 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:09.680 and Morris Clayborne along those lines. So he was selective 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.520 with the pieces that he brought in. But they were 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.440 very productive this season. Okay, So ideally, he continues to say, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.919 the vision here for Mike mccagnan, Todd Bowls, and Christopher 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.400 Johnson is you want to build through the draft. So 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.239 what happened in two thousand seventeen was the Jets added 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:27.839 a safety out of ls you in the first round, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.240 a guy by the name of Jamal Adams. They took 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:34.560 a safety in the second round, Marcus May. They also 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.960 grabbed other pieces along the way. Mccagnan, you're starting to 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.200 see the vision come together. I talked about it last 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.200 week on Inside the Jets. The layers of the defense 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.880 right now are guys that he drafted. Okay, Leonard Williams, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.720 first draft pick of mcagnan, number six overall defensive lineman, 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.760 one of the better interior defensive lineman in the National 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.160 Football League. Darren Lee took strides in year two. He 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.240 was a first round pick number twenty over wrong in 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.640 two thousand sixteen. Then he comes back and addresses the 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:08.640 defensive backfield two thousand seventeen with the selection of Jamal Adams. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.120 You could have made the argument after both in two 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:16.440 thousand fifteen and two thousand seventeen drafts that Leonard Williams 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.479 and Jamal Adams were the cleanest prospects in each of 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.039 those drafts. And then you think about other guys who 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.400 have made productors, who have made contributions along the way. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.839 Coming at George Jenkins, the third round pick out of Georgia. 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.800 So you're seeing a lot of youthful infusion on the 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.440 defensive side of the ball. We're gonna talk to Damario Davis, 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.919 the guy that Mike mccagnet trafted, traded for in the 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:43.080 off season. Josh Martin is a guy who I think 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.680 he is symbolic of people you have to have on 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.120 your roster that you develop internally. He started on the 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.520 practice squad in two thousand fifteen and he was a 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.560 special teams creature here and now this year he led 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.480 the Jets defensively in terms of tackles for loss. So 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:05.120 you have to attack each in every avenue as far 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.480 as yes, the draft, but you have to add in 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.360 free agency and you have to end in um via 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.360 trades as well, and mckagnan has done that. And hey, 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:15.560 you gotta go to the other side of the ball. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.920 You think about Robbie Anderson undrafted free agent. How about 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.039 your main Cursey came over in a trade from the 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.960 Seattle Seahawks, and the Jets got tremendous value there because 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.159 not only did they get Curse, they have a second 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.320 round selection in the two thousand seventeen NFL draft and all, 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.120 by the way, the Jets have three picks in the 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:37.000 top forty nine selections overall. So you know, I went 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.360 off I was gonna say, it's okay to take take 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.280 a deep breath there. But something that I want to 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.320 say is mccagnan has always said that this is gonna 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:48.000 be his vision, always leads through the draft, and he 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.800 said this to you, is that it's augmented through the 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:54.640 other channels like a trade, like pro free agency. But 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:56.599 the thing is is that the draft is where you 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.440 get the most youthful players, obviously, because these guys are 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.120 college jun years and college seniors trying to make a 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.200 name in the NFL. And you mentioned some of the 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.320 guys like Jordan Jenkins and Robby Anderson in the later rounds, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.160 not your first and second round. Bobby wasn't drafted. So 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.600 you get three through let's say seven, and then you're 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.320 undrafted guys right there. And a lot of the guys 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.520 that Mike has drafted have played for this team and 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.120 gotten invaluable experience, especially this season. Look at a guy 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.520 like Brandon Shell, second year right tackle, started i'd say 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.440 the final four or so games of his rookie season 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.280 and then played in the majority of games this season 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.440 and did a pretty solid job. And he was going 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.520 up against guys like Von Miller, Khalil mac justin Houston. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.920 I mean the list goes on and on. So the 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.720 experience that he's getting this year again to create that 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.800 foundation moving forward is gonna be key for this team 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:56.200 in nineteen as you continue to move down here. So 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.800 they're multiple layers on creating a team. I think we've 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:01.840 seen that you touched on it when you look at trades, 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.160 free agency, the draft, college free agency. So right now, 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.280 the first item number one is gonna be free agency 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.960 because that's first on the document. March. Yeah, inside the 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:16.920 Jets is supported by Victoria Knox, Swiss Army um yeah, 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.080 and a guy who's been a Swiss Army knife for 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.680 the Jets Josh Martin will join us in a few moments, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.840 and also Damarrio Davis inside the building. How about that 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:31.520 trade in June as mcagnan acquires Tamario Davis, who had 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.840 a career high in terms of tackles, also had to 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.559 lead the Jets in terms of sex with five. It 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.559 was a one for one, a player for player swap 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.960 for Covin prior how about another player for players swap in? 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:49.400 Maybe not as flashy, but right before the fourth preseason game, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.559 Dexter McDougall was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles for Terence Brooks, 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.800 who had a pretty good year on special teams. And 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.960 not only that, he was the a f C Defensive 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.280 Player of the Weekend the Week three against It All Fens, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:04.400 he notched two interceptions at MetLife Stadium. So I think 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.400 a trade is kind of a lost art these days 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.800 because you look at free agency, look at the draft. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:13.320 That's what's flashy. But then you're talking about trades, and 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.760 Mike mccagnet is not shy about trading. But you let's 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.280 talk about the Demario trade because that's what you brought up. 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.040 When you look at the return. I know this is 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.560 maybe a little financial, especially for me, but when you 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.959 look at the return for what you gave up, Calvin 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.439 Prior is out in the league right now and listen 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.160 and tomorrow. Davis was one of the leaders on this 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:37.400 defense career year for Demario Davis here for the New 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.520 York Jets. And uh, you know one thing I took 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:43.640 away from Christopher Johnson, the Jets CEO. Today's said, I 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:49.120 got the best gig in the world. He's really loved. Uh. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.599 Taking over the reins from his brother Woody, who was 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.880 serving the United states over in Great Britain right now. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.400 But Christopher said, you know what, I talked to a 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.760 lot of players exit interview. The guys each pointed to 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.760 something special is happening here with the Jets, and Christopher 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.160 has a great bond with this team. And the other 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:13.160 thing is Christopher Johnson had a message for the fan 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.120 base today. He said, I know you've experienced a lot 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.199 of pain of late. The Jets have not made the 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:24.400 playoffs in seven seasons. He said, you deserve glory and 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.439 I think we're well on our way to return to 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.160 proper glories. And that's the kind of thing you want 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.640 to hear from a fan, from from your owner, and 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.000 not mean that, not a fan from your owner. Not 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.520 only that, but Christopher Johnson said that he's seeing something 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.400 special starting to form here and that's not only a 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.120 message from him, that's a message that he received from 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:49.000 multiple people inside the building, including the players. So he 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.439 said that he met with almost everyone on their way 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.040 out after they cleaned their lockers, and that he has 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.320 a good feeling about moving forward and he wanted to 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:00.280 have a sense of stability, which is why he ended 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.800 the contracts of both head coach Todd Bowls and general 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.520 manager Mike mccagnet, But he said that he knew he 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.280 was going to do that early on in the season 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.040 and even though it didn't come to fruition until right 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.880 before the Jets went to Foxboro this weekend. Well, I 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.520 gotta think that probably happened for Christopher Johnson when he 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.839 saw the Jets takedown Miami Dolphins for the first win 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.360 in the season. Or you know what really jumped out 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:26.080 to me early in the year was the game against Jacksonville. Yes, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:30.319 they squandered a fourth quarter lead, but they also recovered 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.120 from that kind of a microcosm in this season. They 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.320 handled adversity the one that game and overtime. They also 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.440 ran for over two hundred yards against one of the 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:43.720 finer defenses in the National Football League Jackson Bell Team 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.480 who's will see next year. But uh, the Jets put 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.000 together a complete performance there against the Jaguars. I thought 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.280 that was one of their finest performances of the two 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:57.320 thousand seventeen season. The other game that really resonates with 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:01.959 me was Buffalo Thursday night, a complete performance on both 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:03.840 sides of the football. I want to add one game 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.520 in the mix here is the Kansas City game is 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.280 because I think it has a lot of parallels to 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.960 Week four in Jacksonville. Just happened later in the season 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.040 because against the Jaguars you kind of saw, you saw 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.360 a lead, you saw a great football and then even though, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.520 like you said, a fourth quarter lead was squandered, you're 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.760 still able to fight through adversity and come out with 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.160 a win. The Chiefs game was similar to me because 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.120 it's back and forth and back and forth, and all 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.000 cylinders are clicking and you're finally able to get over 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.400 that hump. And for much of the season all we 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.000 heard was the narrative about finishing, and in that game, 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.400 the Jets finished, and I think that you saw it 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.000 in Week four and Week nine against the Bills that 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.960 was a complete dominating perform, completely dominant. Yeah, it's a 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.800 different field, but I understand the feeling, the sense of 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.160 what you're saying as to if you're Christopher Johnson, why 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:57.080 you get excited about the team moving forward and continuity 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.760 stability is very important in the National Football League. You 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:01.800 don't don't want to take a step forward and then 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.880 take two steps back. And what this allows you to 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.240 do right now with Todd Bowls, and Mike mccagnan, as 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.400 you're sending a message inside the locker room that I've 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:15.199 confidence in these guys moving forward. We took some steps. 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:19.079 Yes we did not see it in the victory total increasing, 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.200 but we're changing the culture here. We're getting younger, we're 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:27.320 building through the draft, we're developing chemistry, we're getting pieces 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:31.080 along the way, and the future is bright for the Jets. 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:36.400 But Christopher also said, hey, listen, this can't happen soon 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.560 enough for us. I want to go to the playoffs 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.320 right now. I want to go to the Super Bowl 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.240 right now. But the thing that Christopher Johnson, Mike mccagnan, 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.199 and Todd Bowls no, is you can't go at this 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.079 with a quick, fixed approach. You really want to become 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.000 a sustainable winner in the National Football League, and with 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:58.400 that you have to take a patient approach. You have 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.959 to hit in the draft, you have to add complimentary 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.120 pieces in free agency, and occasionally you gotta land guys 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.400 like the Mario Davis in a draft or in a trade, 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.640 or a Germain Curse in a trade. And there's and 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.840 you have to develop guys internally, like a Robbie Anderson 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:20.280 or a role player like Josh martin Um comes along 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.760 and he starts playing for you on a regular basis 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.280 on the defensive side of football. So I think the 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.520 Jets are doing a good job right now. I think 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.760 there's plenty of reason for optimism. I understand from a 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.360 fan perspective as you look at the Buffalo Bills right 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.880 now and say why not us, and I say, well, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.600 maybe it is you next year, maybe it is you 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.240 in two thousand and eighteen. I don't think when you 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.600 look at the Jets roster and you look at Buffalo 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.760 Bill's roster or a couple of those other teams like 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.680 the Tennessee Titans, I don't think there is this giant 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.120 talent discrepancy Greens. I don't think so at all. And 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.280 for what it's worth, I think the Jets are headed 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.120 in a very good direction. And I know that's all 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.200 we've heard, but I also understand the fans frustration. But 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.640 to your point is it's not a quick fix, because 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.520 if you're going for a quick fix, there's probably a 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:11.160 higher chance that it falls. And I think what we've 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.960 seen in the past two seasons is when you look 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:19.120 at the regime of maccagnet and Bowls and twenty six 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:24.120 totally different than twenty seventeen and moving forward because last 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.880 year kind of you kind of felt the reset fund 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:28.920 because of all the guys that left in the end, 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.080 and this team is so young, gained so much experience, 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.800 and you're talking about the guys that you drafted finally 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.800 get in field time, they see the field, and then 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.320 you augment it with the trades that you mentioned and 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.080 free agency, and then you keep building through the draft. Well, remember, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.560 like you said, to reiterate this point is the Jets 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:51.320 have three top fifty picks and this year's draft. And 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.200 the more young you get, the more players, the better 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.600 talent you get, the more the higher probability that probability 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.680 there is for long term sustainability. Yeah, and we're gonna 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.240 talk about this later. We're gonna talk about this later 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.360 here on inside the Jets. But one of the major 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.040 questions for the Jets heading in this offseason is the 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.520 quarterback position. Josh McCown came in here, he had a 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.680 career year. Mccagnan signed him a free agency and he 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.360 in his fifteenth NFL season with his tent NFL team, 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:22.000 He completed sixty seven percent of his passes he masked 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.520 twenty three touchdowns in all. He was a leader inside 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.760 the locker room, and he did a lot of great 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.480 things for this team. In thirteen Stars, Brayce Petty made 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.720 three starts down the stretch. Christian Hackerberg did not see 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:39.000 the field in regular season action. Now, mccagnan was asked 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.200 about will you bring Josh McCown back today, and he said, 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.120 this is something we're gonna consider. Josh has to make 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.040 considerations himself, to talk to his family, see where he's 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.440 comfortable with. And the Jets are gonna explore every position 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.640 as far as adding competition. So the quarterback position, you 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.840 will look at pro free agency, you're gonna look at 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:05.679 the draft. And mcagnan said he would not dismiss the 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.720 notion of adding a quarterback in free agency and or 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:14.520 the draft. My thing is that it's January second, okay, 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.440 and free agency doesn't start till March. And I understand 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.000 teams have the opportunity to resign their players between now 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.639 and March. But you know, if you're a fan, you 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.800 gotta take a deep breath just for a moment, because 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.639 there are a lot of options on the tables and 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:35.160 this the season just ended two days ago, So I'm 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.360 ready for I'm ready for Toad. But it's not March yet, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.680 that's the thing. It's January second. But when you look 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.800 at the quarterback landscape, there are options. They're always gonna 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.280 be options when you look at free agency, when you 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.439 look at the draft, there are plenty of options. And 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.040 I know you want to talk about this later, so 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.639 I'll bite my tongue for now and I'll consider that 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.760 it's ease. But but but the thing is that the 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.160 camp space jumps out at you because you can address 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.960 a number of different positions. But with that being said, 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.760 you're not gonna get a pro bowler everywhere. You have 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.200 to establish depth in the National Football League. Well, we 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:11.320 watch these teams in the playoffs. Now you see the 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.119 best teams in the National Football League. Yes, they have 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.960 a marquee quarterback in most cases, but they also have 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.120 depth down the roster. They have guys who can come in. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.520 Because not at every position you're gonna have somebody who 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.680 is starting sixteen games or is considered an elite player 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.960 at their position. The Jets are gonna have to address 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.120 a number of holes in off season. And the other 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.359 thing is they're gonna have to look internally at their 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:42.600 own free agents. Uh, we're gonna talk to one who 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.000 has an expiring contract in Tomoro Davis, who at the 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.920 hell of season, a Morris Clayborne, who I thought had 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.000 his best season in the National Football League. We had 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:51.800 him on inside the Jets a couple of weeks ago. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.680 He said, this is the best I've played in the 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.280 NFL so far. That's a former number six overall pick 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.240 out of LSU who went to the Dallas Cowboys, Austin 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.640 Safarian Jack And how many times have we talked about him? 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.280 That's a waiver claim that mcagnan picked up from Tampa 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.960 in two thousand sixteen. He made so many strides and 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.919 not only as a player, but as a man. He 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.720 had a career year this season for the Jets, and 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.399 that's a that is a position that will be in 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.520 demand on the free agent market. So the Jets have 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.280 to look at him, and then obviously Josh McCown as well, 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:26.440 and there are other guys down that list. So right now, 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:30.520 what the Jets are doing at their Atlantic Health Jets 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.840 Training Center is they're having pro free agency meetings. And 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.080 that's what mcagnan said. Right now, We're looking at everything, 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.040 and that includes your own guys. You do a self 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.560 scout and then you put up a pro free agency 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.760 board and say, well, hey, is this guy gonna be 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.000 a good fit? Here is the talent of match? Is 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:55.800 the chemistry match? Because Todd Bowl said it, record wise, 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.280 we are far away at five and eleven. Chemistry wise, 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.320 we are right now. Something that I thought it was 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.680 very very interesting when Mike spoke today, he said, when 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:08.679 we look at free agents, we we don't necessarily just 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.320 look at the people on the field. We look at 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.359 the person off the field. And when you look at 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.880 someone like Josh, he said, we did a deep, deep 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.920 dive on Josh McCown the person, which is they knew 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:21.679 who they were getting when he walked in the building. 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:25.080 And he said, obviously they had high expectations for him, 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.720 but he even exceeded those expectations to a degree. So 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:33.000 to me is this process is very exciting because it's unpredictable, 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.240 more so than anything else. And if you're a Jets fan, 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.399 you have to be very excited because of what you said. 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.679 The financial flexibility allows Mike mccagnan and the rest of 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.679 his team to go in a number of different directions. 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.280 It's just a question of where do you spend that money, 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.280 who do you spend it on, and how do you 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:52.280 go about your free agency process compared to the draft 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.000 and trades and everything along that nature. But it's an 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.760 exciting time, especially for Jets fans. Right all right, we 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.080 are live here at Vannabelle Sports and Spirits inside and 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:06.480 Windham Hamilton's Park Hotel. Eric Allen and Ethan Greenberg, let's 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.719 come right back with linebacker Damario Davis. Back to inside 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:15.320 the Jazzerak Ellen and Ethan Greenberg here at Vannabelle Sports 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.359 and Spirits Inside and Windham Hamilton's Park. Our Player guest 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.200 segment is presented by mt Bank, the official community bank 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.080 of your New York Jets. Greens is so excited about 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.280 free ancy tomorrow that we went long in that first segment. 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:31.480 So without further ado, you're finally up here, Tomorroo Davis. 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.520 Thanks for joining us. Thank you guys for having me tomorrow. 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.639 What was it like coming back here to the team 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:41.960 you were drafted by in June and then experienced the 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:47.720 scene experiencing this season? Um, it was just amazing. Um. 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:49.440 I think it was sort of a blissing to be 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.760