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Speaker 2: You didn't go down to the easiest, mother sucking down

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Speaker 3: Man. We've been waiting for this episode.

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Speaker 1: You know he got to it on the court, man,

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Speaker 1: They kind of paid away for people like us to

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Speaker 3: We appreciate your sliding on this man, thank you for

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Speaker 1: Love love yeah, good Now, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's just get straight to it though. Yeah, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, we just we just did your part, you

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Speaker 7: But we left off talking about how Jeff said defense. No,

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Speaker 7: he said, you don't play What did you say? He

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Speaker 7: said something like after a while, they just started giving

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, voter, Yeah it's voter, yeah for sure. But

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Speaker 5: I was saying Kobe could play defense when he won't.

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Speaker 7: but defense though, play defense? But he made it eleven

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Speaker 5: And I was like, when you think of Kobe Bryant,

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Speaker 5: But literally, his stats say he's the best two way

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Speaker 5: Like you don't think he a better defender than Scottie Pippen,

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Speaker 5: but the stats say, you know, Award said you're a

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Speaker 7: But also think maybe because the scoring overshadowed with the

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Speaker 3: And I would agree.

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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously, I think younger in his career, as

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Speaker 7: we used to really fight because me and Ron would

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Speaker 7: I got him. I got him, so we'd have to

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Speaker 7: argue with Bro like, now we got it. Bro, you

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Speaker 7: save all that MG for office and will handle this.

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Speaker 7: But he was definitely a competitor, uh, someone that just

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Speaker 7: and then playing on the same team as I mean,

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Speaker 7: I gotta get six. It's like I got to be

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Speaker 7: able to sit at that table with MJ. Like he

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Speaker 7: in that conversation with MJ. But he was a sicko

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Speaker 7: when it came to just getting to it daily period.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean he said you couldn't play defense. Ya.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 5: I just say that that had or the best two

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Speaker 3: For Kobe Brown was like the best score one of

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Speaker 7: I mean I would put him in MJ is the

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Speaker 7: probably the best two way players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, said that? Or who else would you throw in there?

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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously Scotty was great, but Scotty didn't have

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Speaker 7: but he you know, obviously he could play offense too,

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Speaker 7: but it wasn't just the numbers that those two had

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I would say Michael Jordan because but

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Speaker 1: You'll start killing me and his ship boy that COVID shot.

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Speaker 1: The said, well, actually half that ship fake.

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Speaker 3: I said, it's no way he got that many more assistancy, bro,

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Speaker 2: And Stills too, right, Yeah, John Stockton was crazy.

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Speaker 7: There should be a little bit of home cooking Kawhi

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Speaker 7: Leonard is up there too though, two way players. I

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Speaker 7: Kauhi as one finals MVPs. But just yet the consistency

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Speaker 1: We decided last week on the Morning Show that Kuh

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Speaker 1: Leonard is the best NBA player of all time. He's

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Speaker 1: had the best NBA career of all time. Because what

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Speaker 7: Water, the hustle is cold, they got a plant company

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Speaker 1: Eight no trees in sight, Uncle Hill on the way,

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Speaker 7: When I asked my team the other day. They're like, man,

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Speaker 7: that's great journalism because it is life. Don't be safe

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Speaker 7: like they're trying to blow the top off of ship.

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Speaker 3: He said the pay type in right, is that nation

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Speaker 3: though it is?

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Speaker 2: Or is the journalist just being a great journalist doing

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Speaker 3: You said that ain't game.

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Speaker 7: You can tell he still had a little bit of

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Speaker 2: Couldn't take it away. You can't fighting Sometimes just when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who got all the tea though, using that

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Speaker 2: community got all the tea. So he said that trouble

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Man, you had a crazy career. Man, what's one of

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Speaker 3: That was dope.

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Speaker 7: And then you know when I was with the Clippers,

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Speaker 7: You know, we had a crazy we believe run in

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Speaker 7: You know, the interesting thing about that team was as

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Speaker 3: First round the second round. But that's crazy, have it?

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Speaker 7: You know that just kind of the mystique in the

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Speaker 3: Now we believe it was so culture. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: That was just culture.

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Speaker 3: Like that's history. For us.

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Speaker 7: That was a bunch of you know, kind of misfits,

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Speaker 3: It was a crazy run.

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Speaker 2: How did you lock in on defense like that? When

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Speaker 7: I kind of learned because you know, I was a

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Speaker 7: And then when I got to the league, I had

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Speaker 7: so that's when you're really in your position.

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Speaker 3: One, two and three and.

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Speaker 7: Four were all very different, right, I mean you threw

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Speaker 7: so you of course to break the game, which is different.

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Speaker 5: So it just kind of took me a minute to

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Speaker 5: I was a football player of hard so just defensive

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Speaker 7: I mean, I just felt like I had the greatest

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Speaker 7: night I was guarding that person. So that's you know, obviously, yeah,

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Speaker 7: you want to score twenty or thirty, but I really

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Speaker 7: kind of took that challenge of I know, these guys

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Speaker 3: So that was just the mentality I went out.

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Speaker 5: I feel like great defenders got the easiest job from

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Speaker 3: But if you stop them, you look amazing. Praise.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And that was the thing. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 7: Jeff you is someone that could play offense. I mean

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Speaker 7: it's really when you get to a certain level, defense

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Speaker 5: But motherfucker is so good, gonna make shot at the

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Speaker 5: end of the day. That's all you can do. That's

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Speaker 5: why I used to be like, I don't care about

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Speaker 5: going my matchup. Put me, put me on Kyrie. He's

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Speaker 5: gonna get thirty on everybody. But if I make him

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Speaker 5: get twenty one, job, made him work, that's his journey.

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Speaker 2: I never play, so I can't speak on that.

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Speaker 5: TJ McConnell, no, disrespected teachers, but he get me thirty?

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Speaker 5: You look crazy?

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Speaker 3: Do s Yeah? What work?

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Speaker 2: Is it true?

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Speaker 6: If you're doing brod Bro?

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Speaker 5: We got Tate Louise, he probably had like twelve the

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Speaker 3: That was my play game.

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Speaker 2: When Clay got sixty, that was on bro was it? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I did not guard him one possession about defense, Bro,

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Speaker 5: I didn't guard him that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't help. I didn't do anything. It's like how

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Speaker 3: there's no help rules on Steff right, you know, or

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Speaker 7: But what was it like seeing that and being in

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Speaker 7: the whether it was on you or not, Like, what

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Speaker 7: was it like to just see motherfucker that unconscious?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 5: We could I couldn't believe it because like we were

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Speaker 5: only down like fourteen, so we're like when we in

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Speaker 5: like we are It was like, yeah he got forty two,

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Speaker 5: were like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 6: It's a second quarter? Like what PG was like, I

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Speaker 5: He's like, I don't give fuck got him sixty.

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Speaker 3: I was just on there laughing.

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Speaker 5: After a while, I just start looking for my stats,

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Speaker 5: so I need fifteen to eight. I was like, Nate,

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Speaker 5: I'm good, take me out, now, get me out now.

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Speaker 2: Any crazy games you remember playing with them?

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Speaker 7: Now, more against them, because you know that Lob City team.

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Speaker 7: Not that we were big bros, because we never really

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Speaker 7: The year that Sterling got banned from the NBA yea

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Speaker 3: So just kind of see what they were on.

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Speaker 7: The one thing I'll say is like obviously playing against them,

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Speaker 7: fuck that, Like I'm riding with Steph every day. Steph's

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Speaker 7: the best point guard. And this is before Steph eventually

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Speaker 7: became the best point guard. But I just think his

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Speaker 7: were tough, Bro, they were just when they'd get on

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Speaker 7: I mean, that was probably the biggest cheat code. And

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Speaker 7: and you know, people still talk as that one of

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably the greatest team of our generation.

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Speaker 1: I don't see to me a team you're doing.

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Speaker 3: I don't think no.

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Speaker 7: I don't think no team in history can beat them

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Speaker 7: with that set of rules. If you change the rules

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Speaker 7: and you're going back to the nineties with you know,

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Speaker 7: or the eighties with the Lakers and the hand check

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Speaker 7: and the pace of the game, or Mike's time where

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Speaker 7: you can really play lockdown defense, but with the pace

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Speaker 3: They got too much scoring, too much.

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Speaker 2: I think they can be the one Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, thirty, it's gonna put sack and and

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Speaker 3: foull him out. Got you right, No one could guard

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Speaker 5: Bro, Stephan is gonna put that pick, gonna be in

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Speaker 5: that drought coverage eleven thirties murder.

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Speaker 2: They got a glory out there. Freaky Fox ain't.

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Speaker 3: The fox.

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Speaker 1: Take that day, have a long day.

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Speaker 5: I respect them. They getting torched, Bro, he's tortured, Bro,

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Speaker 5: I respect him. Think that the pace, the play, that time,

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Speaker 3: So it was just they were different.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen demoralized in basketball like that, Like we've

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Speaker 3: But they, like you said, them runs they will have.

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Speaker 1: And just the entire games over there, especially at Oracle

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Speaker 7: That's the one thing I remember about Oracle Back and

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Speaker 7: like a traphouse. That ship that smokes so much sweed

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Speaker 3: It was crazy. Even my dad one time while we.

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Speaker 7: Were playing, you can see the smoke cloud. You can

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Speaker 7: Was like that what you do at halftime. I was

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Speaker 7: So I just pulled my joint out and started smoking

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Speaker 3: I slid damn there.

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Speaker 6: It was cracking and.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be the only place in the spot

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Speaker 3: For really.

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Speaker 7: We smoked at our coach's house one time after we

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Speaker 7: won that playoff serious with We told a story about

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Speaker 3: We won.

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Speaker 7: We beat Dallas in game six. Stack and Nelly used

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Speaker 7: So we went to Jack's house to smoke first, and

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Speaker 7: we was about to hit the streets.

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Speaker 3: As soon as he walk.

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Speaker 7: In there, Hey, fellas, Woody Heralds is in the back

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Speaker 3: Were like, what the fuck talking about? We went the

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Speaker 7: We Woody Herrelson at our coach's house and then we

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Speaker 2: That was right after the game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, before we hit the real game.

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 2: I heard say he didn't even care what happened next.

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Speaker 7: No, he checked out, bro checked out. He wanted to

447
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Speaker 7: beat Dallas so bad.

448
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Speaker 3: We were.

449
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Speaker 7: We were so ready for Dallas. It was crazy, but

450
00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,040
Speaker 7: now motherfucker kicked his feet up after we beat Dallas.

451
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Speaker 3: That was it.

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah, b d was dynamic to bro the crazy part.

453
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Speaker 7: He had a bad back and the bad and he

454
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Speaker 7: was still average thirty. I say, if Baron Davis body

455
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Speaker 7: doesn't give out on him, he's probably easily one of

456
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Speaker 7: the top five point girls of all time because strength, speed, athleticism,

457
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,960
Speaker 7: shot making, defense, he'd have a hold of his offensive game.

458
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Speaker 7: He was locked down on defense. He was big and strong.

459
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Speaker 7: It's one of one of them. You know, before Westbrook

460
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Speaker 7: and before Derreck Rose, it was Baron dunking on everybody.

461
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Speaker 3: You know what I means.

462
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Speaker 7: But his body just gave out. But still, even on

463
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Speaker 7: on one leg and in a bad back, he was

464
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Speaker 7: still giving people the fits.

465
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Speaker 2: So you don't even got no excuse talking about your knees.

466
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Speaker 2: He's talking about.

467
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Speaker 3: Cook. Ain't nothing in there bone?

468
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Speaker 5: I played twelve. Yeah, ain't nothing in there that's gone?

469
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Speaker 3: Did you heard it? Just beat up? I saw him

470
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Speaker 3: when I my last yom Milwaukee.

471
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Speaker 5: I was gonna keep playing and I was playing this dude,

472
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Speaker 5: Jordan or Jordan or I think I can't remember.

473
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Speaker 3: I was funny one on one and I heard a pop.

474
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I think I heard my knee.

475
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Speaker 2: Bro.

476
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Speaker 3: He was like, what you ain't doing nothing? Like, yeah,

477
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Speaker 3: I think I hurt my knee.

478
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Speaker 5: We went and play the placers. I played on it

479
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Speaker 5: and then I couldn't do nothing. The next day, I'm like, man,

480
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Speaker 5: they took me to get an MRI and they was like, yeah,

481
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Speaker 5: you need microfracture surgery. I was like, nigga, what I

482
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Speaker 5: don'tbody do that no more. It was like, basically it's over.

483
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Speaker 5: I was like it's over. It's like, yeah, it's over.

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Speaker 1: Damn.

485
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Speaker 3: It was like you can you know, you can rehab

486
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Speaker 3: and get an I'm cool.

487
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Speaker 2: I heard it was cold in football, bro, What made

488
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Speaker 2: you transition?

489
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Speaker 3: I grew up playing football.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was all American leather, the nation touchdowns from

491
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Speaker 7: the receiving position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

493
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Speaker 7: I just at the time, this is before the Jimmy

494
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Speaker 7: Grahams and and Antonio Gates and everyone was really crossing over.

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Speaker 3: And I was six eight, so I didn't really see No.

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Speaker 7: Six the dudes to see how they was getting hit

497
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Speaker 7: across the middle of what they would do after. So

498
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Speaker 7: I was recruited by you know, just as many schools

499
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Speaker 7: to play football or play both. But just when I

500
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Speaker 7: went to UCLA, I decided to lock in. I had

501
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Speaker 7: to work for basketball. Basketball was It wasn't like football

502
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Speaker 7: was my natural sport. Basketball was something I had to work. So,

503
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Speaker 7: you know, I just had to start ryan and then

504
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Speaker 7: find my way.

505
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Speaker 3: How you do that?

506
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Speaker 5: Though, Like being one of the best players in the

507
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Speaker 5: country and football and just like now I'm cool.

508
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Speaker 3: Just longevity.

509
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Speaker 7: Like I said, I didn't see, I felt and I

510
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Speaker 7: don't ever like to disrespect no sport because to be

511
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Speaker 7: able to make it to the top is you got

512
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Speaker 7: to be. But you know, I was six eight, you know,

513
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Speaker 7: thirty nine inch vert ran a four three, seven and seven.

514
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Speaker 3: Jesus Christ was the best, could really run out, you

515
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Speaker 3: know what I mean.

516
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Speaker 7: So it was and that's why, you know, I just

517
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Speaker 7: called myself a basketball or football player playing basketball once

518
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Speaker 7: I'm at the NBA, Like I love physicality. I get

519
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Speaker 7: out in the lane and finish, you know, like I'm

520
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Speaker 7: running the route. So it was just really just transitioning

521
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Speaker 7: that football mindset to a you know, a basketball skill

522
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Speaker 7: set and ship making it work for fourteen years.

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565
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566
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Speaker 7: happening when I came out.

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Speaker 3: Oh now I understand. Now, this motherfucker foul so hard.

568
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Speaker 3: He was bro his foul he found.

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Speaker 7: I just you know, I can't you know, Yeah, I

570
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Speaker 7: grew up. I was born in nineteen eighty, so when

571
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Speaker 7: I watched basketball, Bro, I was bad. Like that's when

572
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Speaker 7: niggas was punching each other and just getting a foul

573
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Speaker 7: for it.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

575
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Speaker 5: So you know, when you go to shoot, a floater

576
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Speaker 5: might try to likewipe from behind, like.

577
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Speaker 3: When he swiped you could.

578
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to take it off, take off.

579
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Speaker 7: But you know we came from where. You know, you know,

580
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Speaker 7: if they're gonnaoul him, don't let them get their arms up.

581
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

582
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Speaker 7: And then again having a guard cold with all them

583
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Speaker 7: pump fakes. Once I tried the pump face, I'll just

584
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Speaker 7: you go get that at the line, Bro, you just

585
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Speaker 7: you had to find a way to survive, you know

586
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Speaker 7: what I mean. You had to find a way to

587
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Speaker 7: survive and make your niche. And you know, once I

588
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Speaker 7: was able to do that, you know, the career kind

589
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Speaker 7: of came along with it.

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Speaker 3: Was that the hardest personal for you to guard in

591
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Speaker 3: the league. Yeah, I missed him. I missed m J

592
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Speaker 3: by year.

593
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Speaker 7: So I kind of feel like Kobe's skill set was

594
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Speaker 7: you know, obviously, you know, you look at Bron's greatness

595
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Speaker 7: and all time leading scorer and top five and assists

596
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Speaker 7: and and Kadi's effortless scoring and Tea Max scoring and

597
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Speaker 7: Paul Pierce are scoring.

598
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Speaker 3: But code was different from.

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Speaker 7: A attacking Nothing was preconceived. He would look at you

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Speaker 7: and how you're lined up or how you're swiping at

601
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Speaker 7: the ball and attack any weakness he saw. So it

602
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Speaker 7: was just it was, it was always it was more

603
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Speaker 7: of a mental game than anything with him because he

604
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Speaker 7: was going to try to destroy you mentally and out

605
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Speaker 7: thank you the entire game instead of depending on anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who's the name that you know? People don't mention.

607
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Speaker 2: That's a tough cover you came across.

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Speaker 7: I think two guys that I think were good players

609
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Speaker 7: had the skill sets to be great playing. I don't

610
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Speaker 7: say that. I'd say this with all due respect, no

611
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Speaker 7: disrespect intended, But Rudy Gay has so much motherfucking game,

612
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Speaker 7: and then Jeff Green has so much game, both of them,

613
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Speaker 7: dudes on both sides of the bar. Maybe this is

614
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Speaker 7: just nice guys, maybe you know, just nice guys off

615
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Speaker 7: the rip that if they had a different mentality. I

616
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Speaker 7: felt like they could have been. But god, I mean

617
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Speaker 7: I didn't really I didn't really get a chance to

618
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Speaker 7: see like a I was always guarding the number one.

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Speaker 7: Really a chance for someone off the bench to come

620
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Speaker 7: and cook or you know, obviously played with it against

621
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Speaker 7: Jamal Crawford and how great he was. But I was

622
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Speaker 7: always guarding B one. So it wasn't really worried about

623
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Speaker 7: nobody else because I have my hands well with the one.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned some killers right there, for sure, I want

626
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Speaker 1: to ask you this question. Obviously you know what I'm saying, Chris,

627
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Speaker 1: all the smoke, all the smoke productions, how does that

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Speaker 1: come about?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Man, We was smoking at my house today, me and bullshit,

631
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Speaker 7: Me and Jack was smoking in my crib in Berkeley,

632
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Speaker 7: and we were both I just finished maybe a year

633
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Speaker 7: out and Jack had finished two years before, and we

634
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Speaker 7: were doing ESPN in box and enjoying good, good feedback,

635
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Speaker 7: just like I kind of felt at ESPN. It's Disney,

636
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Speaker 7: and I've always been an habitual line stepper. I've never

637
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Speaker 7: really fallen in in line with the Disney protocol. So

638
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Speaker 7: I was just thinking, although ESPN was great and I

639
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Speaker 7: had a great time, there wasn't really who I was.

640
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Speaker 7: So I was just like, let's do a podcast. He's like,

641
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Speaker 7: what's a podcast? Like, I don't know, but I know

642
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Speaker 7: we could drink of smoke. He's like I'm in. And

643
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Speaker 7: then from there, hey, I speak on a DeMarcus Cousins

644
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Speaker 7: documentary and the producers like, hey, I heard you want

645
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Speaker 7: to do a podcast.

646
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Speaker 3: Like how you hear that? So I heard.

647
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Speaker 7: He's like, I want to meet you. I want you

648
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Speaker 7: to meet my friend Brian Daily at Showtime. He's launching

649
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Speaker 7: Showtime Digital. It's a basketball platform. I'm like, I don't

650
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 7: know what that is, but cool. He flew out from

651
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 7: New York. We sat down at the hotel in Santa Monica.

652
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Speaker 7: I pitched him the idea. Initially, they didn't want Jack,

653
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Speaker 7: they just wanted me, and I'm just like, no, I can't.

654
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Speaker 7: If it's not us, it's not nothing. So he kind

655
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Speaker 7: of went back and forth with that for a little bit.

656
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Speaker 7: They said, fine, we launched this shit. We didn't really

657
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Speaker 7: know what it was because again, I probably think Knuckleheads

658
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Speaker 7: was maybe four to six months before we came out,

659
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Speaker 7: no one really knew what this space was. There was

660
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Speaker 7: no bar, there was no there was no scattering report

661
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Speaker 7: on what was going on. So we just came out

662
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Speaker 7: and you know, the first season we got sports podcasts

663
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Speaker 7: of the year, We knocked out all the cal and

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Speaker 7: cow herds and all the old or white dudes that

665
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 7: had kind of been dominating the space, and then from

666
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 7: there we were off and running.

667
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: So we're there.

668
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 7: I think we're at show Time about three and a

669
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 7: half four years, and we started hearing whispers about Paramount

670
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 7: was going to come and buy Showtime and they didn't know,

671
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 7: if you know, if the sports side was going to last,

672
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 7: which was crazy to me because as big as we

673
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 7: were at the time and then boxing Showtime Boxing.

674
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 3: Was as big as it's been years.

675
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, So when we started hearing that, you know, although

676
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 7: people started panicking, I'm like, what you know, I was

677
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 7: someone too, obviously with being the talent and helping create,

678
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 7: Like I was also the one in our first couple

679
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 7: of years negotiating our deals, so I got to see

680
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 7: behind them, behind.

681
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: The curtain and learn the game.

682
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 7: So you know, when it was time to make it,

683
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 7: decisions like let's start our own shit, I launched the company.

684
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 7: Told Brian Daley at the time he was figuring out

685
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 7: what was going on, I was like you know, once

686
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 7: everything clears, you took a chance on us, We owe

687
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 7: a lot to you. We got a position for you

688
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 7: me stacking in our homewood Julyanni and we launched this

689
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 7: thing and we went live as a company the beginning

690
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 7: of last year and signed a big deal with DraftKings

691
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 7: and a little bit over a year and a half

692
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 7: now we're vertical in basketball boxing MMA. We're just launching NFL.

693
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 7: We're in talks with MLB to be doing some stuff

694
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 7: with them. We're doing a political side. So it's just

695
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 7: it kind of caught fire. We're doing docs and scripted series.

696
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 7: So it went from a show to an entire company,

697
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 7: like thirty five employees and our own building now and

698
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 7: it got real, you know what I mean. We were

699
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 7: able to flip, you know, flip a show into an

700
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 7: entire company. So it's been it's been a blessing.

701
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: Bro.

702
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: I want to say congratulations and all that, by the way,

703
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: because people don't know how hard that is to run

704
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: the podcast. By y'all have turned that to a juggernaut

705
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: of a business, especially coming to all different sports. That's

706
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: a really hard task. So salute to y'all. Person foremost,

707
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and it was dope too.

708
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously we're here to support and watch the fight,

709
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 7: but it was beautiful to see like we're here.

710
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: As all the smoke fight. You know.

711
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got Andre Royd and Roy Jones out there,

712
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 7: and then you know, Ick and Barack we got our

713
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 7: fighting and in Morning Combat, so we got our fighting side,

714
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 7: and then me and Jack were kind of just in here,

715
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 7: you know, just to show face and talk a little

716
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 7: bit of shit, but really this is us supporting the

717
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 7: boxing side of our company. And it's crazy, you know

718
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 7: what I mean to think like a podcast or two

719
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 7: dudes smoking weed talking shit turned into like a you know,

720
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 7: this will be a couple hundred million dollar company in

721
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 7: the next few years.

722
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: Man, a couple of hundred million, Ain't that?

723
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: Just always see yourself in some type of media.

724
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 7: Now, bro, to be honest with you, like my first

725
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 7: job when I retired because I invested well, so you know,

726
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 7: when I when we won the championship with the Warriors,

727
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 7: I still had two years left on my deal. So

728
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 7: when I was decided to retire, getting myself a two

729
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 7: year window to kind of chill out and figure out

730
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 7: what was next, and media was never on the play.

731
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 7: My first no bullshit, My first real thing I was

732
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 7: adamant was about was being the shield for current players

733
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 7: smoking weed. So I was flying back and forth meeting

734
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 7: with the PA and meeting with the league about understanding

735
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 7: this plan, studying this plant. You guys are pumping the

736
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 7: full of these pills that are masking one thing and

737
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 7: call it causing long term effects, and you're killing people's

738
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 7: career because we smoked, Like you guys got to really

739
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 7: start taking a look at that. So you know, we

740
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 7: pushed that line for a couple of years and you know,

741
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 7: come come bubble time, they stopped testing and then ship

742
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 7: they haven't tested since. So that was kind of like

743
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 7: my first mission as a former player myself and shout

744
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 7: out to out Hearington.

745
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: My dog over at Viola. Yeah, we were really.

746
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 7: Just trying to push the line and waking the NBA up.

747
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 7: So I like to think that we had a small

748
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 7: part to do with that. And then you know, a

749
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 7: friend of mine just that you know, you were so

750
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 7: well spoken in your interviews, you should start doing media.

751
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 7: But you got to think, like my career caught the

752
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 7: tail end or the beginning of social media, like with

753
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 7: people really speaking up and kind of doing their own thing.

754
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 7: Like we didn't have an O two, you know, with

755
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 7: what the media said was it. So you know, my generation,

756
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 7: we didn't really fuck with the media. You know, there

757
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 7: was obviously some people respecting you were cool with, but

758
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 7: there's a lot of people with hitting agendas and motives

759
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 7: and with twist shit, so it was almost like talking

760
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 7: to the cops. So I didn't really fuck with the media,

761
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 7: but my friends, just like if you don't like it,

762
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 7: helped change it. Yeah, I can't change this ship. And

763
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 7: there was obviously are already athletes in the space. But

764
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 7: I think when we were able to come in, show

765
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 7: our face on the networks, but then cross over and

766
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 7: go to this digital side and just start talking real shit,

767
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 7: I didn't realize that we were inspiring everyone else to

768
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 7: be like damn, because we were you know, we were

769
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 7: both I mean, obviously Jackie put the ball in the

770
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 7: basket better than me, but we were role player journeyman,

771
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So I feel like if

772
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 7: we could do it, that would inspire anyone else to

773
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 7: be able to do it. And I didn't think that

774
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 7: it would have the following and the appreciation and then

775
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 7: just the almost the crowdedness of this space now. So yeah,

776
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 7: you know, we put our head down and went.

777
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: To work in a small amount of time. You say,

778
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: it's almost an initial situation. Now then we're become a

779
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: standard that people didn't have to try. They feel like

780
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: they have to tap into.

781
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 7: What's the new way people get their media? Yeah, I

782
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 7: mean I was talking to you know, Big Boy. I

783
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 7: don't know if you guys aren't from a big boy

784
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 7: Big Boy to do radio due I did his show

785
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 7: the other day and he was just talking about how,

786
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 7: you know, these companies used to pour into radio and

787
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 7: this is how they got there. But he's just like,

788
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 7: the money's not there, no more, the money's here. You know,

789
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 7: we're alltho, we're former athletes or whatever, like we're influencers

790
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 7: for these brands and they're ready to give you know,

791
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 7: whatever they feel you can bring back to them, you

792
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So it's just it's a crazy

793
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 7: open space and I don't look at nobody in whether

794
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 7: it's basketball or sports in general. I don't look at

795
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 7: no one's competition because I feel like we all have

796
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 7: our different journeys and experiences and in ways to tell

797
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 7: them stories that that that we've been through. That to me,

798
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 7: it's just to me, it's more. I'm a fan now,

799
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 7: So I much rather hear Jeff and y'all speak than

800
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck how good you are at

801
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 7: your job if you've never done it, Like, there's some

802
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 7: stuff you're gonna miss and not understand. So I'd rather

803
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 7: hear it as a fan. I want to hear from

804
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 7: someone who did it. And I think that, you know,

805
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 7: we're fortunate enough to inspire a lot of people to

806
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 7: be like, Hey, let's let's go really talk our shit

807
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 7: and tell our stories and have fun. And once you

808
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 7: get good at this, there's real money in this space,

809
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 7: like real money in this space. So I was just like, man,

810
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 7: you're gonna pay me basketball money, the smoke weed and

811
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 7: talk shit on TV.

812
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: Fuck, And that's why some people As a journalist with

813
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: a heavy journalist and background, that's cool. I could watch

814
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: basketball my entire life, love it. But there's nothing I

815
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: could I'll speak because y'all been in those situations. I've

816
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: been in those words. I've been in them churches. That's

817
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: experience that you can't speak on and it means a lot.

818
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's I mean, there's some fools that play that

819
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 7: can't that don't know shit.

820
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: Still that's a fact too.

821
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 7: But for the most part, there are guys that stand

822
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 7: out for you know, being the articulate our thoughts, our

823
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 7: feelings and what we've been through.

824
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

825
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 7: And you know you can call those guys out. And

826
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 7: the one thing I just don't like those I'm just

827
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 7: not a big fan of guys who played that talked

828
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 7: the ship like they never played. Like, Bro, you know

829
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 7: how tough it is to go through what these dudes

830
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 7: are going through or what they did or what's going on,

831
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 7: and you act like you've never been in that locker

832
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 7: room and you but the fucked up part is they're

833
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 7: getting rewarded for it. You talk that reckless, crazy, disrespectful

834
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 7: clickbait shit and next thing you know, you got you're

835
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 7: on more shows and you're getting more money. And I'm

836
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 7: just like, y'all are falling for the bait. That was

837
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 7: my one thing when I was with these networks is

838
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 7: I would I would never say anything I wouldn't say

839
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 7: to somebody's face. You know, they would oh, this is

840
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 7: this is the take. I was like, that's not my take.

841
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 7: Like I'm not gonna say that, like this is why

842
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 7: I'll break, this is how I'm gonna say it. But

843
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 7: they always kind of wanted because you know, unfortunately like

844
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 7: drama cells, disrespect cells, you know what I mean, And

845
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 7: it's it's the more clicks. But to me, I'd rather

846
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 7: get the clicks from just giving you some real shit

847
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 7: or having an authentic conversation and trying to trick you

848
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 7: into saying some dumb shit that's gonna go viral.

849
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: I agree. I mean I don't really know if no

850
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: athletes doing that. Yeah, no more than me, but I

851
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people, but what I'm saying

852
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: just in general, even outside of the athletes, people do

853
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 2: for that quick click.

854
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 7: Well because it's hard not to. But to me that

855
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 7: I don't think there's a ton of longevity in that

856
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 7: because when it comes to a time where you can't

857
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 7: really just speak on the dumb shit, you have to

858
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 7: like speak to what you know, what are you gonna

859
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 7: do that?

860
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: You know, me and Mack can relate. Man, he got

861
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: a jeft T championship. What's that? We were just on

862
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: the team. Yeah, absolutely, No.

863
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 7: I told I told my story, Like my whole thing

864
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 7: was too, so that that year was crazy. So I

865
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 7: was in Sack to start that year and just thought,

866
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 7: that's my hometown. I thought I was gonna you know,

867
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 7: I got a three year deal, they's got a new arena,

868
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 7: maybe helped get this team to the playoffs. I've a

869
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 7: long time like he was like the fuck out that being.

870
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 7: And then the funny part was that whole season, Bro,

871
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 7: I was like the boogiey whisper, like anything about the

872
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 7: Marcus cousin, from the owner to management to the coaches,

873
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 7: go tell to Marcus this fuck y'all y'all don't want

874
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 7: to tell him. I'm scared, like you know, but they

875
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 7: was really tiptoeing around Bro, and you know that was

876
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 7: that's my that's my little big homie. And uh so

877
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 7: I would kind of relay messages and as we're getting

878
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 7: towards I want to say, like heading towards the All

879
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 7: Star Bravery maybe two three games out of the A spot,

880
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 7: thinking like, okay, let's make a cool run and maybe

881
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 7: make the playoffs. They trade this nigga while he's on

882
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 7: the podium at All Star. I remember that in New

883
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 7: Orleans post game, and they were telling the whole time, no.

884
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: You're good, You're not going to work.

885
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 7: Make sure the Marcus knows he's he's he's a king

886
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 7: for life. And I'm you know, I'm in the snow

887
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 7: smoking one watching ship. Next thing I know, de Marcus

888
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 7: Cousins traded. I was like, what the fuck? So, you know,

889
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 7: I called management and yeah, you know we're gonna start over.

890
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 7: I'm like, this has been a been a start over franchise.

891
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: What we're talking about.

892
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 7: I was, so, you know, I just like, I'm too

893
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 7: old to start over. You know, I'm thirty six at

894
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 7: the time. It's like, what do you want to do.

895
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 7: I was like, I want to go to a good team. So,

896
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 7: you know, we worked my situation out, and you know

897
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 7: they wouldn't right. At the same time, Unforced KD went

898
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 7: down with the hyper extended knee and I went from

899
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 7: Sack to Golden State and I was playing the playing

900
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 7: good like my first game. You know, played twenty twenty

901
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 7: five minutes for that team. So I was consistently in

902
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 7: the rotation. The game KD comes to. Kd's out for

903
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 7: like two months. The game KD comes back. The first

904
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 7: game back, bro, I want to say I start off

905
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 7: good to hit my first two threes and come down

906
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 7: on someone's foot in It's the worst brand ink on

907
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 7: my career, like swollen, even has my legs swollen. I'm like,

908
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 7: what the fuck. So by the time I'm feeling any

909
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 7: we're maybe about a week or two hour from the

910
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 7: playoffs to fund. By the time I'm feeling halfway decent,

911
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 7: We're already in the Western Conference finals and having lost

912
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 7: the game. So I'm just like, as a vet, I

913
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 7: know how tight playoff rotation is getting you go with

914
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 7: what's working. So they're not going to bring someone like

915
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 7: me who's been hurt for this long and fuck up

916
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 7: the flow of the game. So I just kind of

917
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 7: it was hard for me because I felt like I

918
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 7: fought my whole career to be in that position, and

919
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 7: before I was hurt, I was contributing to that team.

920
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 7: But once the playoff came and I hurt, you know,

921
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 7: I just kind of turned into a fan and you

922
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 7: know helped, you know, helped Draymond through some tough times,

923
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 7: you know, helped Clay through some tough times. It was

924
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 7: just kind of just a super vet for those guys.

925
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 7: But yeah, like I didn't even so they had a

926
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 7: special I missed the ring ceremony the fall in you.

927
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 7: So they had a special ring ceremony for me. But

928
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 7: I got the ring. I got my son's rings, and

929
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 7: then I put the ring in a in a room

930
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 7: at the arena so I could watch the game. And

931
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 7: then we bounced early and I forgot about the ring

932
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 7: and I just wasn't really to the same, like I

933
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 7: don't count that, you know, I didn't count that shit,

934
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? So next with your rings here,

935
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 7: I was like, okay, I'll be And I wasn't even

936
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 7: really living in the city at the time. I was

937
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 7: in La Alas. I'll find out a way if I

938
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 7: want to say. They had that motherfucker for like two

939
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 7: and a half years. And then one day they they

940
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 7: surprised me on NBA today on ESPN and and brought

941
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 7: like someone drove the ring from the bay to la

942
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 7: and gave it to me. If not that motherfucker probably

943
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 7: still be in that room.

944
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 3: I at at Oracle Arena.

945
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 2: I took mine. Where you got that motherfucker?

946
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: Now it's just sitting in the house. That's I didn't

947
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: go to the ceremony. Yeah, just sitting in the house.

948
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: He drove somebody drove up from Milwaukee to Indiana.

949
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just felt like I had man, I had

950
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 7: to I was course, I had to watch one of

951
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 7: the greatest teams, and you know, the battles with Cleveland

952
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 7: and seeing them boys first hand. It was just I

953
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 7: was I was great seats and I had in that

954
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 7: I have to pay for him.

955
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: That's how I feel. I ain't gonna allowed to talking ship.

956
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: We cooked Brooklyn over there.

957
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 5: Yeah it's over I got too much. Boy, ain't gonna

958
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 5: do nothing with them. They like, if you don't take

959
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 5: your heads.

960
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: Home, it's over with. In Milwaukee.

961
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, they couldn't wait for my ass to get out

962
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: of there. We want to tip shock like I did

963
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 5: some ship.

964
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: All this hardwork.

965
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: Was like that. What how good was some Clippers teams?

966
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: Man want to talk to you about I think that

967
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: we were all own worst enemies. Bro.

968
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 7: We were fifty five plus winscific Division champs, facts again

969
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 7: beating the Warriors before they really kind of found their

970
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 7: rhythm as a young team. Our superstars is but it heads,

971
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 7: you know, and Blake and CP had the best chemistry

972
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 7: in the world at times and then didn't see eye

973
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 7: to eye at times, and then at the same time

974
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 7: it's the emergency of DeAndre Jordan where he's starting to

975
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 7: become a you know, yeah, fringe All Star player, defensive

976
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 7: Player of the Year, Olympic player, so he's kind of

977
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 7: growing into his own and it was just I felt

978
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 7: like there was too many cooks in the kitchen. And

979
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 7: then Doc was supposed to be the guy that was

980
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 7: supposed to save everything, and then he brought his son over,

981
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 7: and it was just some weird energy there, you know,

982
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 7: where a lot of he paid his son. I'm not

983
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 7: even mad if I was in a position I paid

984
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 7: the fuck out of my son too, But understand at

985
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 7: the time what that did to people.

986
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he was making more than me.

987
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 7: Jamal JJ, like guys that were putting in real minutes,

988
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 7: you know and playing in crunch time, and it kind of,

989
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 7: without knowing, kind of had people looking at him. Funny.

990
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 7: It wasn't even his fault. You know, obviously ship out.

991
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 7: If someone's gonna give me thirty five min I'm gonna

992
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 7: take that motherfucker, especially.

993
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: With my dad.

994
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 7: So but it just did Doc coming over, you know,

995
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 7: Doc want to say, Doc was the first coach of

996
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 7: ever traded for like we Clippers traded for Doc.

997
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: And great motivation guy, great to make you believe you.

998
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 7: Know, blue waters Purple like great speaker, but just there

999
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 7: was something missing there with him and in our in

1000
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 7: game adjustments. And then when the sun came the energy

1001
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 7: with that, like, guys weren't really off that. So there's

1002
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 7: just too much bullshit, mental bullshit that we couldn't get

1003
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 7: over the hurdle. But when we were clicking and playing,

1004
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 7: there wasn't a better team in the NBA than us

1005
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 7: for the hell super deep. I mean, you got think

1006
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 7: we have you know, our CP JJ ME or Kron

1007
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 7: Butler at the three, Blake and DJ. Then we had

1008
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 7: Lamar Odom, we had Eric bledsoe b Man had you

1009
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 7: had a lot of shit, Ronnie Urry off, Spencer Hall's

1010
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 7: coming off of Fresh pay Day, he had game stretched

1011
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 7: the floor like we just had a lot of big

1012
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 7: Baby Davis.

1013
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 6: We had a lot of hell in the same locker room.

1014
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I have some sugaring.

1015
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 6: I was supposed to wine.

1016
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 7: That one of the coolest dudes I have to god

1017
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 7: ever invented. Lamar is so cool.

1018
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 5: Bro.

1019
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: He was always just the one that was just so

1020
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: with the flow.

1021
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 7: Every city where there's a Limo downstairs going to the club,

1022
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 7: whoever wanted to get in happy and yeah, just that dude.

1023
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 7: Lamar was so cool, bro, so talented, a great super

1024
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 7: talent his size and skill set. I played with l

1025
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 7: O with the Lakers and with the Clippers. He was

1026
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 7: a really good dude.

1027
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 5: Man.

1028
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 7: I'm glad that he's kind of getting back on the

1029
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 7: feed and finding his way because he was a great dude.

1030
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta get the Foster episode just for.

1031
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: He was talking about grills. Yeah, that's number one.

1032
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 3: I got a lot to talk about. Was your favorite

1033
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: player though, Llo was? It was cold bro was before

1034
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: his time.

1035
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro, I want to ask you how you feel

1036
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: about this Clipper scene they got going into this year.

1037
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1038
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 7: It's tough to say, man, because the West is so young.

1039
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 7: I felt like last season we saw kind of a

1040
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 7: passing of the torch, you know, and and guys that

1041
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 7: I played with, you know, the Steps and the Kds

1042
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 7: and the Brons, like it's it's coming to the end

1043
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 7: of their run. And these new young boys are hungry

1044
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 7: and skilled and can run all day in athletics. So

1045
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 7: I mean, I just think the Clippers, you know, Tyler

1046
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 7: is one of the best minds in the game. That's

1047
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 7: why his availability is always a question. You know, if

1048
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 7: he's out there and playing, they got a chance. But

1049
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 7: you also got to think, okay, see he's still young.

1050
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 7: And then boys just got paid. And I think Houston

1051
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 7: had a big off season being able to get a

1052
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 7: consistent score in KD never did well in gathering folks

1053
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 7: up Dallas if healthy is going to be a motherfucking problem,

1054
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 7: and they at the number one pick in Cooper Flags.

1055
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 7: I just think the West is really deep. I think

1056
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 7: the winner will come out. I don't know who's going

1057
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 7: to be. I think the East is going to be

1058
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 7: a little bit down this year. Obviously would take them

1059
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 7: out and you know, some other injuries. I don't really

1060
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 7: believe in the East as much.

1061
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

1062
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 5: Who.

1063
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: Look back wet, Yeah, we bet. I didn't expect to

1064
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: hear that be talk to me back to playing.

1065
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 7: Probably Church trade to me is one of the probably

1066
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 7: the top two most underrated players in the game of

1067
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 7: twenty five twenty five and he's a double double with

1068
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 7: twenty five and ten.

1069
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: Guy, he gets to respect that he deserves. He's playing

1070
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: for a max. Some young boys. It's on a one

1071
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: year deal. So you know you're trying to get paid

1072
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: again from Boston. Yeah, okay, you gotta stay healthy though.

1073
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 5: I mean, he gone contract. You're gonna he's gonna play

1074
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 5: sixty plus games this year. Contract?

1075
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 3: Yes, what man? No contract? You're everybody healthy.

1076
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 7: Everyone everyone gets through them pains that will keep you

1077
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 7: out if you're not on the contract.

1078
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 5: Jalen Johnson, he's gonna be talent young Zachmen playing well

1079
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 5: in euro Basket.

1080
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think we got a right future, man.

1081
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 3: I think it's our time.

1082
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: One of the best developmental teams in the league.

1083
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: Y'all trying to do what though, we're gonna make it

1084
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: to the chip. We're gonna win to East.

1085
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: No, if they make it to the finals tournament Hawks.

1086
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: I was about to say, you to talk about the

1087
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: turn minutes in Vegas and no, No, they'll.

1088
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 5: Be back here in season. Make when they go to

1089
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 5: the finals. Yoall we're gonna say, of course I am

1090
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 5: in that one section.

1091
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 2: I told you. Then Dominique Jersey is still wet.

1092
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: Fs. He popped up next next thing, you know, his

1093
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: nose started bleeding down.

1094
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: The saying somewhere God, bro. He said, Damn, you didn't

1095
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: you got bad love with him? What we all talk

1096
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 2: he talked about, this is sweet.

1097
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: There looking down.

1098
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: My promise, bro, and nobody look super little BROI left

1099
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: and half that's that Jeff t know what's so crazy?

1100
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: I love telling the story. I said, Bro, they hate you.

1101
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: They put him on the.

1102
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 3: Jeff tis in the building.

1103
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: Both was like, damn, I know you sitting this close

1104
00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: to me, all these people, these two dollars seats. Yeah,

1105
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: I even know that read.

1106
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 3: Chicken wings, beer, had everything.

1107
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, man, when you go to the games

1108
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: on you still do? Man, where do you see?

1109
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: Man? If I can't sit courtside or a real sweet

1110
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: that's in the first left, I don't believe this.

1111
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: That's a good man.

1112
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take it in and stay at the crick

1113
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 7: and I like to smoke and move around and drink

1114
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 7: a little bit and enjoy myself. But it's almost I mean,

1115
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 7: we did it for a job, So going to games

1116
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 7: now is not fun. It's not I'm not looking for

1117
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 7: he said, Like again, I'd rather watch it, and if

1118
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 7: the game is on some bullshit, I'll watch something else,

1119
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 7: you know, So going to games I have to.

1120
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: It's not even spoiled. It's just if I'm gonna go out.

1121
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 7: If I'm not courtseided, I'll be in the sweet But

1122
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 7: if not, most of the time, I'm just at the

1123
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 7: crib for sure.

1124
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1125
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: Man, back to that, I wanted to talk about this

1126
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: Clippers team though, we kind of because that's that's bullshit.

1127
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: Actually over there the Clippers scene, if they heard, can

1128
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: they be okay see this in a series?

1129
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 3: Yes? So who's there? Who's there?

1130
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: Five?

1131
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: So James Big, Zoo, Bradley Beal, I love Zoo Big.

1132
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: That's right. Bill was a good pick up.

1133
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1134
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 3: They got a lot to prove though too.

1135
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 7: Yes, the fact you know a lot of people and

1136
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 7: I've always been a fan of him, but that you know,

1137
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 7: you're putting up empty numbers on the losing team.

1138
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1139
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 7: And then it was a horrible move to go to

1140
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 7: a team that three guys that all need the ball

1141
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 7: in their hands in Phoenix. So I think he's on

1142
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 7: the like I still got juice in his in his tank,

1143
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 7: Kawhi's availability.

1144
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: I love James. I think James has been able to

1145
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: evolve and adapt his game.

1146
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 7: He could be an eighteen and ten and six guys

1147
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 7: still and be very effective Zubots is one of the

1148
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 7: most underrated bigs in the game, and they got some

1149
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 7: depth with some I think they got a really good team.

1150
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: It just depends on their health. I think Kawhi is

1151
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: the key.

1152
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 7: If Kawhi can give you sixty five games, you got

1153
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 7: a chance to be a top five team in the West.

1154
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: You think can affect that locker room in the positive. Yeah,

1155
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 5: I think, And I think too, And I mean there's

1156
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 5: you know, I love CP. I'll go to Ward CP

1157
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: every ingle day.

1158
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 7: But I also think that he had to learn how

1159
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 7: to communicate with this newer generation. I think that was

1160
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 7: our biggest issue with the Clippers was we come from

1161
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 7: an old school where they can cust you out and

1162
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 7: you just got to make it work, you know. So

1163
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 7: I was kind of the bridge at times when he

1164
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 7: couldn't get through the Blake or DJ, like, Yo, this

1165
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 7: is what he's trying to say, but he's not wrong.

1166
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: He just don't like his delivery. This was telling you.

1167
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 7: So I think that he's kind of learned from that

1168
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 7: and understanding how to work and be a mentor. And

1169
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 7: obviously CPS one of the greatest players to ever played

1170
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 7: this game. So I definitely think that he'll be able

1171
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 7: to give him solid minutes and also add to just

1172
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 7: the IQ and then and and helping the young guys

1173
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 7: through some shit.

1174
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they counted Billy aspect.

1175
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: I think for CP, theory is really gonna help that

1176
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: team because you look at his always young, dumb person,

1177
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: all the young talent, you look at SGA, you look

1178
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: at Dennis, everybody he's been around.

1179
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: He's only positive impact, especially for the guard position. Sing

1180
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: for him to be what is that motherfucker sixty? He

1181
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 3: played with eighty two games last year.

1182
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 7: Come on, it's a game. So availability is big. You know,

1183
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 7: he really takes care and and to me, just some

1184
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 7: more of a person. Like my twins and his sons

1185
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 7: are best friends. We lived five minutes away. It was

1186
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 7: really big for him to be able to get back home.

1187
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 7: This last handful of years. He's been bouncing outside of California,

1188
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 7: and it's just you can't take the family every time

1189
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 7: you move around towards the end of your career. So

1190
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 7: I knew coming into the season when I've seen him

1191
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 7: in the summertime, He's like, man, i gotta stay in Cali.

1192
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 7: I'm like, we'll go back to the Clippers, go to

1193
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 7: the Lakers, So I was glad that it was able

1194
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 7: to and he's already met you know, said this is

1195
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 7: last year. I'm so, I'm glad he gets to do

1196
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 7: it with a team that you know he really put

1197
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 7: some work in too.

1198
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: That's a really underrated thing I would say about your athletes,

1199
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: our lifestyles, like especially playing on a road, being away

1200
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: from your film it that's hard mentally for a lot

1201
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: of people, especially as you grow and your kids get older.

1202
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: How did you manage that and how's it now? You

1203
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, having a little bit more time

1204
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: to be that's what you know.

1205
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: That's what you know.

1206
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 7: I mentioned earlier and I didn't tell the reason why,

1207
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 7: but that's what you know. I retired my first year

1208
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 7: into a three year deal, so you know, I played

1209
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 7: fourteen years, got paid for sixteen years, but it was

1210
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 7: because I wasn't getting a chance to see my twins

1211
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 7: at the time, they were like seven years old. So

1212
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 7: I wanted to retire. And and it's a great job

1213
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 7: and it's perks and there's money, but you know, eight

1214
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 7: months season, we're gone for four and a half of those.

1215
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 7: I mean, once you start having a family and kids,

1216
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 7: you're missing birthdays and school plays and games and shit

1217
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 7: you'll never get back, you know. And that's why I

1218
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 7: felt like, although I didn't get to contribute the way

1219
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 7: I did, I was just like, damn, I got me

1220
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 7: a ring. My investments are doing good, I got money

1221
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 7: in the bank. I it's time to see what was next. Like,

1222
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 7: although I didn't know what was next, but I knew

1223
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 7: just being a dad was most important to me next.

1224
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 7: And you know, I got just missed the taking kids

1225
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 7: to school and coaching them and cooking for them and

1226
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 7: just being there with them, because again, I was a

1227
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 7: very present dad while I was playing, but my job

1228
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 7: took me away a lot of time. So now you know,

1229
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 7: my twins are sixteen, shout out the isa in car.

1230
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 7: They just got their license to stay. They are so proud.

1231
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 7: They all kind of things a little homies got their license.

1232
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 7: But I got a six year old who looks like

1233
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 7: he's ten and a one year old. So I get

1234
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 7: to kind of really start all over and just be

1235
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 7: there daily and just see the grind and see the growth.

1236
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 7: So to me, it's the greatest job in the world.

1237
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: I asked you this about the twins. Do they get

1238
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 3: their own cars, yeah, or share car.

1239
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 7: Sure, sure, and their mom is their mom is their

1240
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 7: but she didn't want to pitch in and get a

1241
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 7: car together.

1242
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: So, uh, what's the point that.

1243
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 7: So they got a car at their moms grabbing in

1244
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 7: a car at my house so they could.

1245
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: They said, it just sucks being a twin.

1246
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 3: Though you're a twin.

1247
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: Nah, that's a lot of niggas that look like me.

1248
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: Like maybe I want to slide on some road. Got

1249
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: something to do, like whip? Yeah, with the whip. It's

1250
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: kind of it's kind of tough.

1251
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 7: You got it over now to like you know what,

1252
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 7: you know when we come up. I don't know about y'all,

1253
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 7: but we couldn't wait, I mean forgot. I didn't have

1254
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 7: a car. I had a bike with a license, Like

1255
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 7: I just couldn't wait to get my life. But these

1256
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 7: dudes didn't really It wasn't really because I just used

1257
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 7: to being driven around or around like it wasn't really

1258
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 7: pressed it, you know, and they're not really out there

1259
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 7: in the streets got you know, God blessed for that,

1260
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 7: but they're not. They weren't really pressed to get their license,

1261
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 7: but they finally got it. But they love I mean,

1262
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 7: unless you have twins. Like the dynamic having twins is incredible,

1263
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 7: Like they're when I tell you, best friends. Like when

1264
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 7: they were get it's sick, one would go to school

1265
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 7: because the other one didn't get sick yet, but he

1266
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 7: would be tripped. The one at home like I need

1267
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 7: to call and check out my brother, or the one

1268
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 7: at school would call home sometimes like hey, I was

1269
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 7: so and so feeling. So that just the dynamic is

1270
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 7: and it's dope to see. Like, so you have a

1271
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 7: built in best friend every single day, your dog is

1272
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 7: with you. You know, I kind of took that shit

1273
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 7: for granted because they were so easy growing up. Now

1274
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 7: that I got my six year old, I gotta do

1275
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 7: everything with that motherfucker. I gotta play video games, swim,

1276
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 7: play basketball, play soccer, play baseball. Well, I got the

1277
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 7: one year old on my hip. I'm a single datafore

1278
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 7: so it's just like I'm shaking and baking. But I'm like, god, damn,

1279
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 7: I have to do none of this shit with the

1280
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 7: twins they had each other, but I have with Ashton boy.

1281
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 7: Motherfucker got me running with the baby on my hip.

1282
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 7: So it's it's it's it's dope, but it's a lot Man.

1283
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: How you like coaching in that AU crazy world?

1284
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 7: Bro, I enjoy it because I'm teaching. I don't respect

1285
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 7: the AU system. I think it's a money grab.

1286
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: Now.

1287
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 7: I just saw an article that their kids are playing

1288
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 7: eighty two one hundred games in the year. It's fucking crazy.

1289
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 7: Wos why these kids are breaking down? But just a

1290
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 7: money graph for adults now, you know what I mean?

1291
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 7: Everything is water down. When we came up. I don't

1292
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 7: know when you guys started, but when I came into AAU, like,

1293
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 7: there weren't age levels like when you played AAU, if

1294
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 7: you're coming as a freshman, you played against the best

1295
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 7: players in the country. There wasn't no fourteen, fifteen, sixteen

1296
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 7: like when I was fourteen, I was playing against seventeen

1297
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 7: eighteen year olds in AAU. So now there's just so

1298
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 7: many levels and divisions and gold, bronze and silver like

1299
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 7: it's not It takes away from the kind of the

1300
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 7: cachet of being an AAU player. And then again, it's

1301
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 7: not even about developing kids no more. It's about winning games,

1302
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 7: which is fucking pointless. College coaches don't give a fuck

1303
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 7: what kind of AU shit you. They want to know,

1304
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 7: do you know how to play off the ball, and

1305
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 7: I feel that's what our game lacks as kids understanding.

1306
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 7: Kids are super skilled now, being able to do all

1307
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 7: these moves and step backs and triple step backs and

1308
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 7: the gather and all that shit, but when they don't

1309
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 7: have the ball in the hand, they standing there like dummies.

1310
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 7: You know, you don't have to cut flare screen forty

1311
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 7: five cut. You know they don't know how to do

1312
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 7: notnh that shit. So to answer your question, I enjoy

1313
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 7: it because I'm teaching these kids how what they're going

1314
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 7: to see yet. And I've had my kids since they

1315
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 7: were eight, so what they're going to see in high school? Now,

1316
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 7: all these kids are in high school and they're like, damn,

1317
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 7: coach Man was seating that shit when we was in

1318
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 7: fourth or fifth grade. And then I'm trying to prepare

1319
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 7: them now what they're going to see in college and

1320
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 7: hopefully what they're gonna see in the league. So it's

1321
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 7: really concepts and understanding spacing and how to play off

1322
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 7: the ball and how to be on a string on

1323
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 7: defense and rotating and all that kind of shit. So

1324
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 7: I love it because I'm teaching. I just wish the

1325
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 7: rest of the game would be taught.

1326
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: And you already talk about that, Jeff, as a hig

1327
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: school coach. You got a real players back in even

1328
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: though they haven't great. You got a really back in

1329
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: for a high school basketball Bring them back to reality.

1330
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, nobody's gonna sit there and let you drivele

1331
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 3: the ball twenty times. Nobody, I mean.

1332
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 7: And what I don't like is these kids don't watch

1333
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 7: basketball at highlights or the next morning, and I feel

1334
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 7: like you missed so much by not seeing what's out there.

1335
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 7: Like if these kids want to cross over eight times

1336
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 7: and step back and still have the ball, Like, show

1337
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 7: me one person that does that in the league. There

1338
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 7: might be three or four guys that can do that

1339
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 7: that are allowed to do that. But for the most

1340
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 7: part that you know, like coach Pop said, a second

1341
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 7: and a half, if you can't make a decison, then

1342
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 7: second a half, get the fuck off the ball. Like

1343
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 7: these kids wouldn't know what to do if they had

1344
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 7: a second and a half to touch the ball. So

1345
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 7: it's it, And it's just kind of being able to

1346
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 7: teach these kids and make them understand man that you know,

1347
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 7: it's a delusional space. Social Media's delusional with these mixtapes

1348
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 7: and highlight tapes and all this shit.

1349
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 3: That you know. And then what do I mean your thoughts?

1350
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 3: You don't coach at AU, but you see it. I

1351
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 3: mean these holdbacks.

1352
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 7: I mean when we were coming up, Like I remember

1353
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 7: I was in eighth grade walking across the street to

1354
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 7: play with the varsity team. Yeah, there's kids we were

1355
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 7: playing against seventeen year old freshmen. Like I was going

1356
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 7: to UCLA at seventeen, and you're a freshman in high school.

1357
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 3: Bro, we'll be doing I don't believe in that. Like

1358
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 3: a lot of our guys are younger. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1359
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: Some of the guys on our high school team they

1360
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: fifteen on their junior year.

1361
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, cause it's going to come a time where you

1362
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 7: can't run from the smoke. I feel like the adversary

1363
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 7: is what makes you better. Like all these kids, even

1364
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 7: if you take it to the college, it's like jumping

1365
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 7: in the portal. Shit, don't go Ou'm jumping in the portal.

1366
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 7: Like what happens when you can't run? What happens when

1367
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 7: you have to sit there and just just just be

1368
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 7: a man? This damn, I'm not going to play that

1369
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 7: much this season.

1370
00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 3: What am I?

1371
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 7: How am I going to make my game. What am

1372
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 7: I going to learn? You don't get no, you don't

1373
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 7: get no adversity and will power and mental strength when

1374
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 7: you're just running from the smoke the whole time.

1375
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 3: That's a fact.

1376
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: Yea, since we talked about that though, like the nil,

1377
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: do you think that would have kept you playing football?

1378
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: They came with that chicken?

1379
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I probably would have definitely played, you know, to

1380
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 7: get two bags, you know, play football and get fucked

1381
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 7: up for no reason, you know what, hopes of going

1382
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 7: to the NFL. But you're trying to tell me I

1383
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 7: could do because you couldn't tell me any. I was

1384
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 7: in LA too, bro So I remember I used to

1385
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 7: get my little pale grant twenty five hundred dollars. You

1386
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 7: couldn't tell me nothing. That's what's been going in like

1387
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 7: twelve hours. But when I had that little twenty five hundred,

1388
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 7: like you couldn't. I couldn't imagine having a half a

1389
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 7: million or a million dollars in Westlewood in LA and

1390
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 7: no parents at tell you know, don't like But to me, also,

1391
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 7: does that take away from the grind? Take your foot

1392
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 7: off the gas, because these kids are getting everything we

1393
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,959
Speaker 7: had to bust our ass to get to the league

1394
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 7: for like, you couldn't even get it was illegal to

1395
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 7: get it in college, so we had to brian all

1396
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 7: the way to get to the league, to get that

1397
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 7: kind of money. So if you're getting it now in

1398
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 7: high school, the elites are getting into high school, everybody's

1399
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 7: getting a colleague. I think it's only natural to take

1400
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 7: your foot off the gas.

1401
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 3: I think so too.

1402
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 5: That's why I guess I'm not against prep schools. But

1403
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 5: that's my problem with prep schools, because you're just not

1404
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 5: that hungry. No more like when you're getting money, we

1405
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 5: all know that, Like you got your pilgrim. Even when

1406
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 5: I got my pilgrim, you couldn't tell me, Well, if

1407
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 5: you getting a million dollars, I don't know who I

1408
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 5: would have been.

1409
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 3: I would have made it.

1410
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: Best player in the country. He'd at least got t

1411
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: yeah number yeah, yeah.

1412
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 7: No different time. Man, It's beautiful. I mean, that's why

1413
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 7: I got four sons. A couple of motherfucker's gonna hit

1414
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 7: this lottery.

1415
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: I tell you what, what is like? What is it

1416
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 3: like coaching your kids? Though?

1417
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: Like is it tough?

1418
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: No?

1419
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 7: Because I don't treat them like my I feel like

1420
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 7: I do my kids a disservice if I play daddy ball,

1421
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 7: because I'm not always going to be their coach. So

1422
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 7: if I'm doing if I'm running extra plays or starting

1423
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 7: them or giving them all these men like it's not realistic,

1424
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 7: like they're like everybody else, like the best players that like,

1425
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 7: whoever has the best rhythm at the time is going

1426
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 7: to finish the game. And I would try to tell

1427
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 7: kids too, and Jeff, you know, obviously start is cool.

1428
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 7: I'm a starter, but the coach who finishes the game

1429
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 7: is who the trust, coach trust the most. That's who's

1430
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 7: playing the best. That's who I can trust. And you

1431
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 7: always want to be a player where when I put

1432
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 7: you in the game, I know what I'm gonna get

1433
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 7: from you.

1434
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 3: You can't be a wild card.

1435
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 7: So coaching my kids, it's sometimes it's tough love and

1436
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 7: sometimes I'm a little tougher on them from a standpoint

1437
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 7: if I just know that being a former NBA son son,

1438
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 7: you're gonna get motherfucker that don't like you just for

1439
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 7: that fact. So you know, there was a time where

1440
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 7: one twins started one, didn't you know, there's time where

1441
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 7: they both started. There's both time when they're both playing

1442
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 7: like shits. They sit right next to me, you know

1443
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 7: what I mean. So to me, I can't daddy them

1444
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 7: because I'm not always going to be there to daddy

1445
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 7: and from a coaching standpoint, I feel like I'll I'll

1446
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 7: hinder their growth, so they know everything with me is

1447
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 7: is earned, nothing is given.

1448
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 5: I know that's tough though, having that bullet on your

1449
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 5: that target on your back, because my guys was gunning

1450
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 5: for all. After they played them in the Ubu, they

1451
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 5: called me a sat facetimmy coach. We just beat Matt

1452
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 5: Bournes and yay to call them. I'm like, you know,

1453
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 5: you know, y'all, y'all had a really I wasn't surprised

1454
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 5: that you guys. You guys had a really good We

1455
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 5: just we We started with the thing in Cali is

1456
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 5: there's no bigs. We got so many guards, so we're

1457
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 5: a small art. Motherfucking five man six four, you know

1458
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 5: what I mean. So it's just like we're super skilled.

1459
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 5: If we're not shooting the ball, we played like the Warriors.

1460
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 5: If we're not shooting the ball, well we're in trouble.

1461
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 5: And we started uh the fourth session before piecing with

1462
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 5: thirteen guys, we finished our last game with six, like

1463
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 5: we got one of the twins fractures and like our

1464
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 5: whole team was hurt.

1465
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 7: But when we played, y'all was good. Man, it was

1466
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 7: a good game until the end. You guys pulled away

1467
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 7: and I think one by like six or seven. Uh,

1468
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 7: but we're in that bitch the entire time. But you

1469
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 7: guys that but you guys had size and motherfuckers said

1470
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 7: was dunking and wiping off the glass and we just

1471
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 7: didn't have none of that.

1472
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: So, like I said, we're gonna make some moves in

1473
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 3: the portal.

1474
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 7: I'm already meeting with dad, like this next year their

1475
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 7: last year and the you you know, it was my

1476
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 7: last year coaching for a little while until my six

1477
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 7: year old gets right. So we're gonna go all out.

1478
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 7: But I love it, man, it's and it's dope too.

1479
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 7: And Jeff, you know, if you ever pulled up to

1480
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 7: the turn like it's a reunion all that. There used

1481
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 7: to be a stigma of black dad, especially the NBA

1482
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 7: players not being in their kids lives. But with this

1483
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 7: generation of the dudes that I play with and right

1484
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 7: behind us, like there's so many involved ads now whether

1485
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 7: they're coaching, supporting, running programs, but just being present. You'll

1486
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 7: see twenty five thirty former players at any given tournament

1487
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 7: and this joke. After we're done playing, we go back

1488
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 7: and drink some smoke, some chop it up, and just

1489
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 7: kick it. So it's almost like a reunion for us

1490
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 7: every time we travel out of state to these tournaments.

1491
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: Dope is dope.

1492
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: You said something really interesting about the highlight factor, and

1493
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: I see Adam Silver said this recently. He was just

1494
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: like basically the accessibility some of these games. They was like,

1495
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, with all these networks and all things spread out,

1496
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: how can kids or people even support their team.

1497
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: He's like, you know what, we're light? How light that work?

1498
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 3: So if you can't watch the game, it's all right.

1499
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: He was a problem to be better, And now you're

1500
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: telling these kids catch it on Twitter, Like where's the

1501
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: balance in that? For like the fan base, there's not.

1502
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: It's all the money grab.

1503
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 7: You know that the game, the games is glow mobile

1504
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 7: as it's ever been, but because there's just new ways

1505
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 7: to consume it, you know what I mean? Like as

1506
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 7: far as it would be interesting to see like how

1507
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 7: many people if they did a study actually can even

1508
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 7: watch a half of game. You know, a lot of

1509
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 7: people don't just sit there and watch games one because

1510
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 7: there's just so much other shit going on other games.

1511
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 7: But it's just games are long, and the season is long,

1512
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So you got to be

1513
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 7: a real fan to sit there and watch your team,

1514
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 7: and kids these days don't have the attention span at all.

1515
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 7: I have to make the one thing during the playoffs,

1516
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 7: my twins, sit your motherfucking ass down and we're going watch,

1517
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 7: and they'll sit and watch the games. I have to

1518
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 7: like tell them, come come watch the games, and then

1519
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 7: they'll be glad they did it. But if I don't

1520
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 7: tell them, they'll be playing video games or out shooting

1521
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 7: or doing whatever else. Dad will catch that ship tomorrow.

1522
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 7: I'm like, what do you mean tomorrow? Yeah, we can

1523
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 7: watch the highlights. I'm like, what the fuck about the

1524
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 7: rest of the game. The highlights of two minutes? The

1525
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 7: game is forty eight?

1526
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 3: What do you mean now? We don't roblocks?

1527
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: Dad?

1528
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: And what's happening tomorrow? Now theyre on two K with

1529
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 3: Jeff and no draws.

1530
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 7: Did you see how fast our social team put that up?

1531
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 7: I wanted to you, I said, said, and that ship

1532
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 7: was on social media like eight minutes.

1533
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: I was getting.

1534
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: It was getting I was on Twitter the smoke Best Home.

1535
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: We just walked off the stage like this ship never go.

1536
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: Over. I said, this is nasty. The whole drugs that's

1537
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: out of pocket. Get to take team.

1538
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: Uniform.

1539
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 3: That's a nasty uniform.

1540
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 7: Like I said, I'm glad we we kind of just

1541
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 7: scratched the surface. But we definitely want to have you

1542
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 7: guys come out to l a our studio, but definitely

1543
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 7: sit down and and and and and do a real

1544
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 7: show with you guys. I don't watch a ton of podcasts,

1545
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 7: but I do like just your your guys' energy is

1546
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 7: authentic and you can feel it.

1547
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 3: And you guys can say ship to each other.

1548
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 7: The other motherfuckers saying with me and jack like I

1549
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 7: could talk ship to Jackie to me, the other mother

1550
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 7: fuckers can't say. You guys have that chemistry where you

1551
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 7: could talk ship about each other with each other and you.

1552
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 5: Talk me bad, bro, This is how we met. That's

1553
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 5: how we met, bro. He told me, No, that's my

1554
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 5: brother shoving Mack. He told me shoving back is better

1555
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 5: than me to my face, that's not that's.

1556
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: Not how we got got that's how we met.

1557
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: So here.

1558
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's a stop fucking line.

1559
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: Listen, let me get another shot game I had.

1560
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: I had a challenge, one the only ones in the

1561
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: city with that week. It's back twenty ten. So I

1562
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: pulled up this ship music Monday. You know I had

1563
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: a shorty driving my ship.

1564
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 3: Yes, crib Yeah. We stayed with THEOD the NBA doing

1565
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: that ship.

1566
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: You.

1567
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: I don't know he was out of pocket.

1568
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 3: You should have been shot.

1569
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: I pulled up.

1570
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: He was just talking about my car because I guess

1571
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: I didn't have a super up one. I had a

1572
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 2: basically listen.

1573
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: Man, yeah, I mean he put he pulled up next

1574
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 3: to me in a basic challenge.

1575
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: Nah.

1576
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: We weren't cool like that.

1577
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 6: Now, you know what I mean.

1578
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: I had Pemps blue pulled up, had a little heavy

1579
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: one in the past or something.

1580
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 3: Like a little thing.

1581
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 2: At the time, just riding.

1582
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 3: That's my I like think one time that.

1583
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: She was she was a lot of hell.

1584
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I had the hell care you had a

1585
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 5: basic and you pulled up. I was like this, nigga,

1586
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 5: does he got up you open the door?

1587
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: What up? No, nigga, it's a difference put that baby ship.

1588
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: That night we started talking, then shoving. Maga Sture came

1589
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: along and then.

1590
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 3: He was like, man, my nigga should sure assiga what?

1591
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 5: And we had a program game and Nigga, I'm locked

1592
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 5: out shelving crazy. I'm going he looking over here, Shoven

1593
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 5: don't know right. So every time I score on showing,

1594
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 5: I'm pointing at this niggag he laughing. Sheving like, what's up?

1595
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: Man? Nigga you said? Oh said sad, Nigga.

1596
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 5: Ain't ship nigga shoving like what? And then she became

1597
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 5: my guy. He came on the Hawks and we became

1598
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 5: best friend for sure.

1599
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: For sure.

1600
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: Listen, man, we gotta make it out there man, all

1601
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: the smoke, man, we gotta tap in. Man, listen, we

1602
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Appreciate you stack man. Y'all paid white for

1603
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: people like us to be in this space. To get

1604
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: to it, man, we gotta pay how much of the

1605
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: ogs in the space, man, keep going, keep pushing it

1606
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: for it man, all the smoke productions going crazy. We

1607
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: appreciate you pulling up on this big dog for Shure man,

1608
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, the one more time for boost Mobile twenty

1609
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: five dollars unliming the nation wide man tap in with

1610
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: the good people.

1611
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: I need I need a burner where the burners. Yeah,

1612
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 3: need a burner, baby op on, chirp, the chirp, but yeah,

1613
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: you know the vibes.

1614
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: Until next time, we appreciate chocolate twenty'es sir. The volume

1615
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 3: M hm