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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans.

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Speaker 2: This one's for you.

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Speaker 1: This it's the Pack twelve Apostles, and only the truth

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Speaker 1: lives here Packed twelve Apostles.

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Speaker 3: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amsden, and this is the

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Speaker 3: Pack twelve Apostles. We are more than halfway into the

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Speaker 3: season of a great college football season, and we are

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Speaker 3: super excited about everything that's going on. But there are

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Speaker 3: some interesting things because we had near upsets. Prior to

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Speaker 3: the week, there was collapse talking should Caleb Williams quit?

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Speaker 3: But now everything seems to be right in the world

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Speaker 3: of the Pac twelve. The college football playoff rankings came out.

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Speaker 3: The ap pole usually has drama. Dabo Sweeney goes on

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Speaker 3: Dion Sanders says the quiet part out loud. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is getting it's getting crazy out here in the conference.

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Speaker 3: And as soon as losses start, Mountain people start acting crazy.

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Speaker 3: Ralph people start they start with the crazy talk. They

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Speaker 3: start with you know you don't. They're trying to deflect

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Speaker 3: and place blame in other places because they don't want

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Speaker 3: that smoke.

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Okay, people don't know

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Speaker 1: that we talk every day, but I have not asked

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Speaker 1: you this question. Are you and your valuables, your heirloom

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Speaker 1: jewelry and whatnot? Insured? This will be a good time

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Speaker 1: to check up on on the status of of because

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Speaker 1: you're out in LA.

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Speaker 3: One one hundred percent. You are everything, everything is insured.

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Speaker 3: Because okay, so when so when I was younger, when

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Speaker 3: I first got got in the league, that's when fifty

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Speaker 3: cent came out with the song and he was like

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Speaker 3: and and and getting your chain snatched was always a thing.

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Speaker 3: It is, particularly in the black community and the hip

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Speaker 3: hop community. You get your chain snatch, that's like somebody,

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Speaker 3: you know, somebody gotta die. I mean like literally, And

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Speaker 3: I remember fifty fifty don't rob me, they know him

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Speaker 3: down to die for my chain. And I was in

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Speaker 3: that mentality despite being in the NFL. So I carried

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Speaker 3: a gun with me in the car wherever I went.

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Speaker 2: And you had.

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Speaker 1: A team, you had a teammate get lit up yep

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Speaker 1: in his car, yep, yep, and Richard Collier.

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Speaker 3: So I always had a gun with me in the car,

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Speaker 3: loaded gun in the car under the seat.

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Speaker 1: Listening to yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not that that's not subconsciously adding to your paranoia,

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Speaker 3: but but yes, and so uh so I kind of

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Speaker 3: so when God's get in trouble for guns, particularly in

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Speaker 3: the league, I get it because it's a culture problem

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Speaker 3: and it's also a you're kind of scared and people

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Speaker 3: are like, well, hire some security, bro. Do you realize

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Speaker 3: that people who are not multi multi millionaires and you're

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Speaker 3: not that at at as a rookie unless you're a

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Speaker 3: first round pick, hiring security is not fiscally responsible.

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Speaker 1: Like it's yeah, you go hiring discount security and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden they're telling their cousin where you keep

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Speaker 1: your jewelry yep, and then it's your security that gets

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Speaker 1: you robbed exactly. I hate to laugh, but it's it's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why this is a thing is because

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Speaker 3: Dion Sanders and and uh Colorado were at the Rose

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Speaker 3: response to it was why they were like ha, hey,

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Speaker 3: Shaduver was flashing that. I don't know if sha Duv

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Speaker 3: was one of the people that was robbed, but they're like,

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Speaker 3: ha ha, these dudes running around with all these chains

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Speaker 3: and all this jewelry, that's what they get.

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Speaker 2: You flash it, it'll get took.

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Speaker 3: And on some level, there's a little bit of truth

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Speaker 3: to that. Like I don't understand why people get on

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Speaker 3: Instagram flash and money and being like, you know, doing

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Speaker 3: the money, phone and bro. That is inviting, and especially

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Speaker 3: in these tough economic times, wolve's gonna eat.

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Speaker 2: They they're they're not gonna starve.

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Speaker 1: We've had we've had people in hip hop like the

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Speaker 1: who who was the one guy that h was at

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Speaker 1: like an Airbnb and the address was in the background

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Speaker 1: he he got killed and robbed.

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Speaker 2: Uh pop smoke, Yeah, pop smoke.

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Speaker 1: And then uh and then down in Miami, Uh what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's the same thing with with with with

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Speaker 3: like people who aren't in the hip hop industry and

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Speaker 3: they're like, oh, I'm flashing my new artwork, MYNUW Bentley,

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Speaker 3: you you will get robbed because if if if if

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Speaker 3: high end thieves know that you got something dope in

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Speaker 3: your house, they come and to get it they coming.

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Speaker 1: To Yeah, but that doesn't make stealing. Okay, it's me

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Speaker 1: in American culture, it's weird because like I love the

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Speaker 1: Ocean's Eleven movies, love them like I love old train

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Speaker 1: robbery westerns. Yep, what's that the Vegas magician robbery movie?

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Speaker 2: Oh now you see me, Now you see me?

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Speaker 1: I love that stuff like that doesn't mean I want

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Speaker 3: Well, true, true, Yeah, I like watching about it on

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Speaker 3: had Dion Sanders come out and say that the Rose

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Speaker 1: That was a bar as the kids say though, because

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Speaker 2: Oh I know, Granddaddy goats him money.

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Speaker 1: That was incredible, incredible line.

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Speaker 3: First thing, first thing, the yes, the Rose Bowls should

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Speaker 3: should have the locker rooms insured. Well, they say have

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Speaker 3: them secured and then insured. Right, that's the first and

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Speaker 3: second thing would checking your valuables. Okay, so another one

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Speaker 3: Oregon's locker room, right, if you go to well at

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Speaker 3: these school's home locker rooms, they have safes in them essentially,

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Speaker 3: But in these college locker rooms, in the away locker rooms,

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Speaker 3: they they don't. They're just you know, some of them

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Speaker 3: So maybe upgrading the uh the visitors locker room or

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Speaker 3: maybe that's another thing that you if you're the visitors

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Speaker 2: Is a safe to take a safe with you?

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Speaker 1: What? How do you think something like this happens? It

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be a fan, right like that would be

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Speaker 3: No, it's probably somebody who works in rolls Bowl security.

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Speaker 3: Want of the people with the yellow jackets on who

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Speaker 1: And then that's I mean the incentive there is you get,

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Speaker 1: you get eighty thousand dollars worth a jewelry that you

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Speaker 3: It probably takes a long time to make twenty thousand

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what amount of money? What amount of money is

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Speaker 1: worth going to jail for? And I'm not saying that

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Speaker 3: Me zero dollars there there is not. I spent twelve

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Speaker 3: hours in jail one time. Too many hours already. I mean,

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Speaker 3: but I could do a year for like a billy

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Speaker 3: if I got to keep the billion when I got out,

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Speaker 3: I can. I can do a year, no more, though

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Speaker 3: not a year in one one day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as an adult, I don't think there's any reason

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Speaker 1: for me to be spending time in jee. I got

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Speaker 1: some family members that did some like high level sophisticated

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Speaker 1: Very fascinating stuff. But I I mean I used to

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Speaker 1: steal every weekend from Target. They used to steal candy

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Speaker 1: trying to steal from me by charging eight dollars for twizzlers,

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Speaker 3: One time, bro, I stole something one time, well actually

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Speaker 3: two times in my life. Well, once stole it and

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Speaker 3: another time associated with some thievery. One time I was

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Speaker 3: a pack of three tennis balls.

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Speaker 3: Uh, but we lost them, like super quick, super quick,

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Speaker 3: And then they call my dad up there and my

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Speaker 3: dad's like, yo, I just bought the boy some tennis balls.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, George, did you steal the He pulled

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Speaker 3: pulled me inside, George, did you steal the tennis balls? No, Dad,

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Speaker 3: I didn't take the tennis balls. He went in there.

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Speaker 3: come like he went off. And then the teacher was like, well, see,

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Speaker 3: I got the worst whooping I ever got my entire

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Speaker 3: and I didn't steal anything else. And then the and

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Speaker 3: then fast forward. I'm in college and I'm riding in

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Speaker 3: close and we're just driving by. It was a crime

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Speaker 3: of an opportunity. Dude in the front seat says.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yo yo, like, let's well no, no.

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Speaker 3: Pull back, pull back that that that that car is there?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, they got them speakers in the in in

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Speaker 3: I just saw them. I'm gonna snatch them speakers out.

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Speaker 3: Homeboy snatches the speakers out, puts them in the back

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Speaker 3: of the car that we were riding in. Mind you,

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Speaker 3: I had no I actually said, let's not do this right,

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Speaker 3: So I'm in the right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, excuse me, excuse me, I protest.

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Speaker 3: Yes exactly. I was like, bro, just leave below. They

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Speaker 3: just got in a car accident.

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Speaker 2: Just chill.

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Speaker 3: And then I was like, bro, you don't even have

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Speaker 2: He was like, I don't Well when when whenever I

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Speaker 3: So he puts them in his house. So like a

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Speaker 3: year later, I have a car. At the time, I'm like, hey, yo,

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Speaker 3: you still got.

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Speaker 2: Them speakers.

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Speaker 3: He was, and he was like, yeah, bro, I still

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Speaker 3: Next thing up, Dabbo Sweeney, Right, did you see him

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Speaker 3: He's done a remarkable job so far. But you see

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Speaker 1: And Dion is flashy. I'm not saying he's all about flat.

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Speaker 1: We know that's not true. But do you think offensive

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Speaker 1: are on other teams to come in and take their place.

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Speaker 2: So, so is that okay? Is the question?

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Speaker 1: Is it okay for Dion to be out here saying

440
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Speaker 1: we need better players?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I think that if you are close. I think it's

443
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Speaker 1: not very palatable to the fan, to the consumer. What

444
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: Pat and Arduci did to me is worse because he's

445
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: like supposed to be the player advocate and he was

446
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: out here saying, well, I guess I didn't collect good

447
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: enough players. But for Deon's never really been anything other

448
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Speaker 1: than this, so it's not necessarily a surprise. I'm more

449
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: or less, I'm less concerned with whether or not it's

450
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Speaker 1: okay for him to say the thing we know that

451
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: coaches think out loud than it is the fact that

452
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. I'm more worried about the fact

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Speaker 1: that it's not actually a good You have.

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Speaker 3: To oh that is that is not a strategy that

455
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: is going to prove fruit because Colorado only has one

456
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Speaker 3: offensive lineman commit right now, right and you have to

457
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: develop offensive lineman. Three star guys turn into really good

458
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: college players. They may not turn out to NFL draft picks,

459
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: even though some of them do. But you gotta get

460
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Speaker 3: lineman on the defensive lineman, offensive lineman. You gotta get size,

461
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: and then you can worry about the development. You have

462
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Speaker 3: to get size and then and but part of this

463
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: is on Dion and the offensive and oh gosh, Sean

464
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Speaker 3: lewis the offensive coordinator, because there's a lot of people like, oh,

465
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Speaker 3: he holds on to the ball too long and takes sacks. Yes,

466
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Speaker 3: there's an element of that. There's an element of that

467
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Speaker 3: with all quarterbacks, especially when your team is down. You

468
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Speaker 3: feel like you got to make plays, all that sort

469
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Speaker 3: of stuff. So let's say that ten percent of the

470
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Speaker 3: sacks are his fault. He's on pace for sixty four

471
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Speaker 3: sacks this year, which will be a Power five record

472
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Speaker 3: in college football, a record sixty four sacks, And so

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Speaker 3: let's say ten percent of the sacks are his fault.

474
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Speaker 3: Even if you want to get crazy and go fifteen percent,

475
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Speaker 3: it's still a scheme problem. They're doing too many drop

476
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Speaker 3: back passes. They can't run the football, and you have

477
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Speaker 3: to find a way.

478
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Speaker 2: If you have.

479
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Speaker 3: Arizona State's coach who's Oregon's office coordinator last year.

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Speaker 2: Ken Yep Kenny.

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Speaker 3: He's dealing with two different types of players, Like he

482
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Speaker 3: had a whole veteran crew at Oregon last year, which

483
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: all pretty much let Yeah, I think they have to

484
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: replace all five starters or at least four to five

485
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: and it Arizona State. He's got hurt linemen and not

486
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Speaker 3: as good as linement. And you know what, He's figuring

487
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: out a way to run the ball. He's figuring out

488
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: crafty ways to get the ball out of his quarterback's hands.

489
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Speaker 3: Even though there are some times that Drew Pine has

490
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: got his ass kicked, and it's part of the reason

491
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Speaker 3: why he's down to his well, Drew Pine got his

492
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Speaker 3: ass kicked, and that's the reason why he's down to

493
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Speaker 3: Trenton Borgay at this point in time.

494
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Speaker 2: Who gets yep. So he doesn't take that, and so

495
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: they gotta do.

496
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Speaker 3: They gotta run more screens, they gotta do more quicks

497
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Speaker 3: because I don't even know how what it would be like,

498
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Speaker 3: because I got two quarterback sons, and I know what

499
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Speaker 3: it's like when I see them take take a beating.

500
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Speaker 3: I know what it's like to see your son get

501
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Speaker 3: a sprained ac joint because they can't protect him.

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Speaker 2: It's frustrating.

503
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Speaker 3: But then but for me to be responsible for that

504
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: on some level as the coach, Oh, listen, listen, I

505
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: don't want that conversation because I guarantee you Dion had

506
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 3: to feel the conversation from polar Sanders like, what's up

507
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: with you? Bruh, You're gonna get my son hurt and

508
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 3: you need to fix this, and he's like, Bruh, I know,

509
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know. So then there's pressure

510
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Speaker 3: as a dad, and there's pressure as the coach.

511
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Speaker 1: And you're in the room with because be honest, be honest.

512
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: When when an old lineman doesn't do what they're supposed

513
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Speaker 1: to do and it puts your son at risk, the

514
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: things you feel about that old lineman are not necessarily

515
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: the things you say, correct, but you feel them because

516
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: you're human. You feel them, right. Yeah, Deon Sanders out

517
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: here saying it's personal, it's personal, it's personal. He takes

518
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Speaker 1: things personal. His son is out there getting wrecked. You said,

519
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Speaker 1: sixty four sacks that would be top ten ever in

520
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Speaker 1: the NFL for a full season.

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00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Derek, I mean, that's David Carr level stuff,

522
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Speaker 3: bro David Carr.

523
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Speaker 1: Which was only twelve more than that over a sixteen.

524
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Speaker 2: Game season ruin his career.

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Speaker 1: Technically, Shador Sanders is getting sacked more than David Carr

526
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Speaker 1: because if if Colorado and you have to understand, in

527
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: the last thirteen years, only two Power five schools have

528
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: allowed five sacks a game Kansas and Rutgers did it.

529
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: Colorado is about to be the third and five sacks

530
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: a game over a sixteen game season. But that's like

531
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Speaker 1: ninety sacks.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

533
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Speaker 1: He's getting sacked more than David Carr, and he's sticking

534
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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: This mas tough as hell.

537
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: Tough as hell yep.

538
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: Now, speaking of injuries, though, uh Jake dickerd is upset

539
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: about people faking injuries, that that that accusation has been

540
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: leveled against oregonst Troy uh Terrence Ferguson, even though that

541
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: would have done nothing to help Oregon at at the time,

542
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: like it literally didn't help them. You've had other people,

543
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: I mean they will be standing there and they get

544
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: shot like by by them, you know, you know how

545
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 3: they do the dog trick where they're like.

546
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: And then the dog plays dead. That weeks ago two

547
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Speaker 2: weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Dion and the Colorado staff got really pissed off at

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Speaker 1: uh I think a running back who wouldn't go down

550
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Speaker 1: and they forced him to use the time out because

551
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Speaker 1: he couldn't even walk. I think it was Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Wait no, wait, who oh, yeah, because because the coaching

553
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: staff is yelling go down, go down.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't running back though, I think who was it?

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00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: What was it in the USC Oh?

556
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

557
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: It was in the Arizona game. That's what it. That's

558
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: what it was.

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00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you because you had Jedfish yelling at him

560
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: and he was like, yeah, I was yelling at him

561
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: to go down.

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00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: I think that was the Arizona game.

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00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: So that because you have to use a time out

564
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: other way, other way you get an injury timeout. So

565
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: what happened in the in the Washington State Arizona game

566
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: is right before halftime, Jalen Conyors caught a first down

567
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: pass that had two seconds left, So they might have

568
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: been able to clock it with the way that the

569
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Speaker 1: clock stops after a first down. But also I think

570
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Speaker 1: there was a penalty maybe so the clock would have stopped him.

571
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: But anyway, Jalen Conyers obviously faked an injury to his knee.

572
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: He really played it off, had the training staff come out,

573
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: had a long conversation and all that. But what was

574
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: unique about it is the people who were on the

575
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: broadcast were like, and Jalen Conyers fakes an injury. Like

576
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: they just called it out right in the moment, which

577
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: was so funny. And Jake Dickard after the game, and

578
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: I know people like their instinct is to just yell

579
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: at anybody who complains about anything. But what Jake Dickert

580
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: said is we got to do something about this. He

581
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: was obviously faking an injury. And then he said we

582
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: all do it. He said, we practice it. So he

583
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: was saying, Washington State practices faking an injury to gain

584
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: an advantage. But when it happens to you and and

585
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: points come out of it, it feels like maybe something

586
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: should be done.

587
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: So so maybe maybe okay.

588
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: Co So you can't tell the difference between when a

589
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: player is faking and when a player is not faking

590
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: in the in the moment, right, because you.

591
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Can, But you can't. You can't say it in the

592
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: event in the negative one percent chance that you're that

593
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: you're wrong, Like what if Terence Ferguson really did have

594
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: a knee injury that then jumped to his other knee

595
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: in the moment that didn't jump to his other.

596
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: Where he grabbed the wrong one where like he was

597
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: like oh damn yeah, or or again like he caught

598
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: it or that, or that he caught a cramp, because

599
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: some sometimes that literally legitimately does happen. But the but

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you can do about it in

601
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: that moment. But what you the only thing that you

602
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: possibly can do, which I do not agree with or

603
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: subscribe to, is say, if you go down with an injury,

604
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: you're out a minimum of ten plays.

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00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: Which then if it is a cramp, like come.

606
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Speaker 3: On, yes, exactly exactly, or like I had to come

607
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: out of a game because I had a dislocated finger,

608
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 3: you can be back in the next play. They are

609
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: gonna come pull it. But he tape it go back

610
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 3: to work. I mean it takes less than a minute.

611
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what about this if it happens in the

612
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: first half borrowing against So it's like first half under

613
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: two minutes, obvious situation in which people would execute some

614
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: like this, Can you borrow against the next half's timeouts?

615
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: No?

616
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: Because then there's nothing to do in the second half. No, No,

617
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: this is this is just a problem to where the

618
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: only way to fix it is to like find the

619
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Speaker 3: school after because if you find the school, if it's

620
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: like ten thousand dollars for fake injury, they will they

621
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Speaker 3: will stop faking injuries.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they started, they started charging schools for people storm

623
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Speaker 1: in the field. I'm seeing more people storm the field

624
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: than ever.

625
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, and then that's the thing.

626
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: If you put a price on it, then if you

627
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: put an actual price on it, you might have the

628
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: opposite effect of being like, all right, now we got

629
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Speaker 1: a budget for this, let's get a booster on board.

630
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Speaker 3: We gotta cover the injury facing the injury the fake

631
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: injury fund.

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00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: This might not this might not have a solution, but

633
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate Jake Dickert bringing it up. And for anybody

634
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: out there that's like, oh, you're just complaining because you

635
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: know they say you would have done it too. He

636
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: said that, he said, we practiced this, but it doesn't

637
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: feel good when it happens to you, when it's blatantly obvious,

638
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: like in the case of Jalen Conyers. But it is

639
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: what like it kind of is what it is. I

640
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: don't love it. But at the same time, like in

641
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: this situation, as you probably still would have been able

642
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: to clock the ball, it didn't affect the overall outcome

643
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, but it can. And

644
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: you got Washington fans that are mad right now. You've

645
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: got Washington State fans that are mad right now. If

646
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: you ask those same fans, what would you do in

647
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: that same scenario, you would hope that they would use

648
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: the advantage available to them correct to top the clock. Right.

649
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: It's bad.

650
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: It's bad unless you have the opportunity to do it.

651
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: So maybe it's a problem we ignore. Maybe we hit

652
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: the snooze button on this one. But it is funny

653
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: that it continues to be an issue, but only when

654
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: it has to you.

655
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

656
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: Nobody cares when it happens to somebody else, right, yep,

657
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: all right, Next thing up, the College Football Playoff Committee

658
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: released its rankings and what was your And so you

659
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: have six PAC twelve teams rank Washington at five, Oregon

660
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: at six, Utah at sixteen, No way is it Utah

661
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: sixteen at Oregon State at sixteen? Yeah, you taw at sixteen,

662
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 3: Oregon State at eighteen UCLA at nineteen and UCLA at

663
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry in USC at twenty.

664
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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you good with that?

665
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah? I am. It's a little it's we are down

666
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: to two legitimate contenders, so acting like we're not is

667
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, there was there was the outside opportunity for USC,

668
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: which may be still exists in some alternate universe. But

669
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: what you have to understand about the College Football Playoff

670
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: Selection Committee is that the first two years, this is

671
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: your ten. So they got this down by now, the

672
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: first two years were extremely volatile. In year one, you

673
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: had in the initial rankings, Ohio State was sixteen and

674
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: they made it in. In the second year, Oklahoma was

675
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: fifteen and they made it in. Since then, seven consecutive years,

676
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: nobody outside the top nine has made it in. Nobody.

677
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: So you have to look at these rankings and say,

678
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: if you're not in the top ten, there's probably no

679
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: opportunity for you, even though two of the teams in

680
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: the top six still have to play each other. But

681
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: the way the College Football Playoff looks at that is

682
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: once they've set that ranking in their head, even those

683
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: losses are valuable, so they're not going to drop you

684
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: down too far. Cracking the top nine right now. What

685
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: Oklahoma is at nine right now, They've got to be

686
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: the only team that probably looks at it and says

687
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: we still have an outside shot. And as an Oklahoma fan.

688
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: Oh see, I don't, I don't see that.

689
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: I see one other team, well, two other teams that

690
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: have a legitimate shot, only only two past Oklahoma. Yes, okay,

691
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: I see Missouri having a legit shot only because they

692
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: played Georgia this week. If they can beat Georgia, and

693
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: they will have a legitimate shot if a couple of

694
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: things happen.

695
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Well, if they beat Georgia, they control their own destiny.

696
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: Oh true, true, true, yep.

697
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: Don't have a better record than Georgia in the on

698
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: the same side of the SEC, which is still doing this.

699
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: And then they'll either get LSU or Alabama or Ole

700
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: Miss with one loss, likely in the SEC Championship, and

701
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: then beat a top ten team in the SEC Championship,

702
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: which will mean they'll they'll probably get into playoff at

703
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: that point.

704
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a really good point. So Missoo has a shot, Okay.

705
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: And I think that Louisville has a shot too, for

706
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: the same reason.

707
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: As long as the college football Playoff Selection Committee is

708
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: not doesn't have the same attitude the AP does because

709
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: the AP hates Louisville.

710
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I would say that they hate Florida, that

711
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: they hate the ACC too, because when you the ACC

712
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: has what two teams got, Florida State and Louisville.

713
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: And that's it.

714
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: Eating Notre Dame. Louisville beat Notre Dame in the rank

715
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: three spots behind them with a better record.

716
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: No, No, Louisville's thirteen in the in the College Football

717
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: Playoff rankings. But you are right about the eight people.

718
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all. Yeah, I was talking about the AP.

719
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: So where's Notre Dame in? Are they behind fifteen?

720
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: Yep? Yet are fifteen?

721
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: That makes more sense? And no, I would say Notre

722
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: Dame has gotten the benefit of the doubt for so

723
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: long that this is the first year I feel like

724
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: they won't.

725
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they do.

726
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: Dropping that the Ohio State game was forgivable because of

727
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: the mistake having only ten players on the field going

728
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 3: down to the last play literally fourth down, no time

729
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: on the clock.

730
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like.

731
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Speaker 1: I just like Oklahoma at nine because four out of

732
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Speaker 1: the four out of the nine years that we've had

733
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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff. The lowest ranked team in the

734
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Speaker 1: initial rankings that has ultimately got into the college Football

735
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: Playoff has been Oklahoma. They were fifteen and twenty fifteen,

736
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: they were five in twenty seventeen, they were seven and

737
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and nine in twenty nineteen. They've done this

738
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: four times, and so there's precedent for But I don't

739
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: think the Big twelve is getting a lot of respect

740
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: right now either.

741
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: No, No, So can we talk about Can we talk

742
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: about though this five six with Oregon and Washington, Because

743
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: if you were watching the show, the people on the

744
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: panel and even the shows on like they have been

745
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: heaping a fusive praise on Oregon after that Utah win,

746
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 3: after that Utah destruction.

747
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: Yes, And the.

748
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: Question is, like I think Washington fans who believe that

749
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: they have the best win in the country, which I

750
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: would agree with that, they're like, why aren't we in

751
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: the top four?

752
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: See?

753
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: Look, they don't even value that Oregon win. And the

754
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: way that the committee chair was talking, he was like, Yo,

755
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: we at this point really have to value head to heads.

756
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: But that could change later. That sent a message to

757
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: me about Oregon and Washington because I swapped my Drift've

758
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: had Washington in front of Oregon all year. Yeah, but

759
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: after that game, I felt like Oregon was the better team.

760
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: And I also and since then, Washington didn't score an

761
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: offensive touchdown versus Arizona State and took Arizona State not

762
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: being able to kick a field goal, so throwing a

763
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: pick six instead to beat Arizona State, which is one

764
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: of the.

765
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Speaker 1: Two worsts yess.

766
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Speaker 3: And then the Stanford game, if they don't drop that

767
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: fourth down pass, they may lose that game too.

768
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: They were moving the ball real well.

769
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: So and they gave up eighty eleven points in that game.

770
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: So like Washington, oh man, see, they don't respect that

771
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: Oregon went. No, no, no, they respect the Oregon went. You

772
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 3: would have been in the top two or three, maybe

773
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: even number one. Had you dominated against Arizona State and Stanford,

774
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 3: you may have been number one. But the problem is

775
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: is that you came out and you've looked poorly and

776
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: you look vulnerable. This feels like what you have seen

777
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: what you saw out of out of Texas and out

778
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: of Oklahoma before they lost, which is playing some bad

779
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 3: football before they lost.

780
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: And eventually you keep playing with your food, you fool

781
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: will eat you.

782
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: The I think there's enough people on the College Football

783
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Playoffs selection Committee that still understand that the basis of

784
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: winning football is being able to run the ball and

785
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: stop the run or at least get home as a

786
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: pass rush. Washington's not really doing any of that right now.

787
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: They've had good fortune. Right There's three games that they

788
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: could have lost that they didn't, three games they could

789
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: have lost that they didn't, and in all three games,

790
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: they didn't always look like the better team. Definitely not

791
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: against Oregon. They got dominated by Arizona State, dominated Yes

792
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: State correct, Yes, did not have the capacity to convert

793
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: the opportunities that they created against Washington's defense, So they're

794
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: not able to rush the passer. Right now, defenses are

795
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: sort of figuring out what to do about Washington's offense.

796
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: Not that it's that helpful, because they're still that good.

797
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is, if I'm a Washington

798
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: fan right now, I need to see my team elevate

799
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: beyond what they're doing right now, because the good fortune

800
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: won't always go your way, especially not November.

801
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, which is upset season.

802
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and you know we talk about this all

803
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: the time. If losses are lessons. When you're playing against

804
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: the team teams that have lost a bunch, they're forced

805
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: to learn.

806
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: Virginia one win.

807
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: Virginia, who have been getting their doors knocked off, came

808
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: up and beat North Carolina and damn near Who did

809
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: they go to over what was at Miami?

810
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

811
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they went to overtime with Miami the next week.

812
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: You know who the worst looking team was the first

813
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: two weeks of the season, Oklahoma State?

814
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, Oh my god, I thought they were

815
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: I thought they would lose like six.

816
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: Games this year.

817
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: They're ranked now yep, yep.

818
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: Number number twenty two, and then heading into bedlam, people

819
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 3: are saying.

820
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: They could win the Big Twelve.

821
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: They could win the Big.

822
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: Twelve if they If they win this game, they're essentially

823
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: a shoe win for the Big Twelve championship.

824
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: Winning cures what ails you, but losing is the diagnosis.

825
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: That's that's football. That's why in the NFL you have

826
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: teams that the Patriots going into the Super Bowl seventeen

827
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: and oh might not have been the best thing for them, right.

828
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: Winning cures things, but losing is the diagnosis. And so Washington,

829
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: Washington might be getting away with stuff right now. One

830
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: of the best things for Oregon might have been to lose.

831
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: I said that it got it's keeping that team super

832
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: super hungry. They do not, and ever since then they

833
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: have not wanted to fill that again. And and cal

834
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 3: who has put up a bunch of points versus a

835
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: bunch of people, we will will will learn a lot

836
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: this this weekend.

837
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much.

838
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Do you have a problem with there being no PAC

839
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: twelve teams in the.

840
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: No, because of Washington.

841
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: If Washington Washington would have been in the top four,

842
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: they would have been in front of Michigan, who has

843
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: one hundred and eleventh ranked schedule in the country. Despite

844
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 3: knocking everybody's doors off. They would have been in front

845
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: of Michigan and likely well and in front of Florida

846
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: State too. If they had just if they had won

847
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: both of those games like bought by twenty points, like

848
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 3: they're supposed to hell, even if they won about fourteen

849
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: points and it was and they gave up a late

850
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: touchdown and it was twenty one the majority of time,

851
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: it was never really in doubt.

852
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: They would have been fine.

853
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: It was the fact that they almost lost and probably

854
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 3: should have lost both of those games.

855
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: That's the issue, all right.

856
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: Next thing before we get to the day well, is

857
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: quarterback controversies because you brought up something. Actually, we'll deal

858
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 3: with that as we get into the.

859
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: Game, because I feel like I'm about to get a

860
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: pretty huge I told you so thrown my way. I've

861
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: been waiting all week for for you to do it,

862
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: and you haven't done it yet. So can we could

863
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: just get it over with. You could just say it

864
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: out loud and then we can move on. Okay, No,

865
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: it's your I told you so.

866
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: What are you mean.

867
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: Arizona football? Oh?

868
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: Hey baby, uh listen about them starting? Wait about who

869
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: they were starting or who they were better off with?

870
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh dude, when I saw QB controversy on the Chiron,

871
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: I thought you were just loading up your fastball. So

872
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: I guess I was wrong. I guess I underestimated you here,

873
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: unless you were just saving it for later.

874
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: M M Nope, no, no, So you're talking about the

875
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 3: no of Hafeita Jaden Delora's situation.

876
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I told you.

877
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: They can't go back. They can't go back. Yeah, they

878
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: can't go back. I think you agree with me at

879
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 3: this point in point in time.

880
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever didn't, I just didn't.

881
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: I just had mixed feelings about the whole concept of

882
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: getting losing your job to injury, but those feelings are

883
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: irrelevant in this situation. One quarterback is very much better

884
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: than the other one, and that's the end of it.

885
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: Hmm.

886
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: Now I'm curious, Like we can talk about it later,

887
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: but now I'm definitely curious what a you're talking about.

888
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: Do you want to get into our reviews?

889
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, let's go maybe review review review.

890
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: We actually got two five star reviews, so we've got

891
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: ten stars. I'm counted as ten stars this week, and

892
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: one of them is unfortunately gonna be a little bit

893
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: disappointed because I read it way too late. But we

894
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: definitely got set this up for next week. The title

895
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: is a good podcast. It's from CKJ Devil. This says

896
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: I like the podcast, but want to ask a question

897
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: if you considered soliciting questions from the listeners. My question,

898
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: with the uncertainty surrounding Washington State and Oregon State, do

899
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: you think they will see more than usual transfers this offseason.

900
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: I know we're in the middle of the season, but

901
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: some of us Arizona State fans are already thinking about

902
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: the future. Lol, Oh, yes we are. Do you think

903
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: there's gonna be an exodus from Washington State and Oregon State?

904
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: And I will all set up like a questions thing

905
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: for for next week. That's a great idea. Okay, do

906
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: you think do you think we're gonna see a ton

907
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: of players dump out of the pack to schools?

908
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: It is possible, It is possible.

909
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 3: But even bigger than that, I think we gotta be

910
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: on Jonathan Smith's watch after this year.

911
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: You've been You've been saying that for a while.

912
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: And it's not because I do not and I want

913
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: to emphasize I do not believe Jonathan Smith wants to

914
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 3: leave Oregon State. I believe that that for him personally,

915
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: that making four million dollars at Oregon State is more

916
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: valuable to him than going and making seven at.

917
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: Michigan State one hundred percent. But believe that.

918
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 3: However, I think that there's a big difference in them

919
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: offering him nine million dollars. I think that he may

920
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: even turn down nine million dollars to stay at Oregon

921
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 3: State for four or five million.

922
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: But it's not just about him, and.

923
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: We've talked about that that these coaches are, particularly when

924
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: they have loyal staffs that have been with them for

925
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: a while and your staff is making a you know,

926
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 3: a few hundred thousand dollars, and you can turn people

927
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 3: from making two hundred thousand to six. You can turn

928
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: people making six hundred thousand to one point two on

929
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: three year deals.

930
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: Hmmm.

931
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: That's a whole different story, buddy, because it's not only

932
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 3: your life that changes. Because you're fine, you're a multi millionaire,

933
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: you're living in Oregon, You're like, I'm happy where I'm at.

934
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 3: But as a coach, you are also have to take

935
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: care of your staff. Yes, and it would be very

936
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 3: difficult to look those dudes in the in the eye

937
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: when you tell them I'm going to go to it,

938
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 3: go to go to interview, because you're gonna have to

939
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: tell them when you're when you're leaving, Like you don't

940
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: have to tell everybody, but you're gonna tell the your

941
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: inner circle, and you know what that offer looks like.

942
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 3: And you're like, bro, you turn this down, and we

943
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: were going with you, come on, man, like, you gotta

944
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: tell us what the.

945
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: Plan is here?

946
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: Then?

947
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that that's that that's the bigger thing.

948
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that was a five star review, and I'm

949
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: sad for Oregon State fans. Here's an interesting one. It's

950
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: from Jace Jacobs. Five stars and the title of the

951
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: review is punt on first Down, which is a nice

952
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: little callback from earlier in the season. All right, five stars,

953
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: and it's got like a little poem here. I woke

954
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: up this morning excited to greet the day a little

955
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: love for pactal apostles and then I'll be on my way.

956
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, George is the Oregon Duck, but Ralph

957
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: is a sun devil king dropping those knowledge dimes, smooth

958
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: flexing his analysis bling. That's a nice little poem. And

959
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: then he adds George is a cool dude for sure,

960
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: But I'd like to take the time to celebrate Ralph Amsden.

961
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: You know, when Ralph says something stupid like punt on

962
00:52:53,280 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: first down, he's actually right on the money. Ralph, if

963
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: is almost always right with his takes. I love that

964
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: he always has solutions available instead of just complaining. Many

965
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: of his ideas would have saved the Pac twelve had

966
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: those in charge been open to innovation. This is wildly

967
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: This is probably super inaccurate, but I'm basking in the

968
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: praise Right now, I love it. I love that Ralph

969
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: knows who all the backup quarterbacks are across the Pack

970
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: twelve and whether or not they have cool stories. He

971
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: can share their recruitment stories. He can tell you that

972
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: a current overlooked and underappreciated PAC twelve quarterback was a

973
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: seven on seven god who had the respect of several

974
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: five star players he and his team beat every time

975
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: in national tournaments. I love that Ralph can share those

976
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: details from every team in the conference. Thank you, George

977
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: and Ralph for covering the PAC twelve. Best of luck

978
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: on your future podcast adventures. You are loved and appreciated.

979
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 3: So now I want to talk about this. I want

980
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 3: to talk about this review because this is why I

981
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 3: continue and have always wanted to do the podcast with

982
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: you for those very reasons.

983
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: Is that.

984
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: Is that you?

985
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: Is that you are like my dad in certain ways.

986
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 3: You are Larry Brown. You are like the underdog king.

987
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: You want to coach the you know, and me, I'm

988
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: like Phil Jackson. Baby, give me all the give me

989
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: all the good stuff and let me manage the good stuff.

990
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 3: And I think it creates such a good balance because

991
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 3: I'm more big picture and you are in the minutia,

992
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: So I appreciate you for that.

993
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: For that, Ralph, I do thank you.

994
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm I love being part of this and I'm grateful

995
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: every single day. And that was a really cool review

996
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. I just think that the PAC

997
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: twelve is so good and cool and fun. And I

998
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: wish I was more like Yogi Roth in that, like

999
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: I didn't freak out every time something bad happened and

1000
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: I could just kind of stay above it all.

1001
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: But like sometimes Jogi he used to freak out.

1002
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, I've talked to like He's like, I don't

1003
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 3: be all right, man. I was like, Yoga, we're not.

1004
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 3: We're not on air right now, buddy, you can tell

1005
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 3: you we can talk about this. I was like, it's

1006
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: a disaster. Yeah, I just and I want to let

1007
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: everybody know he's.

1008
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 2: That positive off the air.

1009
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 3: It's not just stick for He's just a good hearted

1010
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 3: individual that just wants the best for college football and

1011
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: he loves the kids on this coast.

1012
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: He does he does, and and I love and respect

1013
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: that about him. I wish he was more like him.

1014
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: And I am also this way off the air, I

1015
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: have heart palpitations thinking about how long Jerry as an

1016
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: ro O was u c l A's defensive coordinator, And

1017
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: you see me, I like, I get stressed out over

1018
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff because I do. I want everybody

1019
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: to thrive so bad, and I think, you know I'm

1020
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: not coming. I'm I'm contrasting myself to Yogi, who I

1021
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: who I really look up to. I don't know him,

1022
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: but I look up to him, and I wish I

1023
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: was more like that. But I do care a lot

1024
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: about this conference and all the stories and all the

1025
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: small details, because all we really have is our stories.

1026
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: That's who we are. We're a collection of the things

1027
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: we do and the people we impact. And I want

1028
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: to celebrate the good. It gets harder to celebrate the

1029
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: good when the results are not good. And at the

1030
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: same time, I love nonsense, I love the entertainment of

1031
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: all of it. But at the same time, like you,

1032
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: I think the reason I like working with you is

1033
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: you are one of those stories, right Like you are

1034
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: an Oregon duck. You played here in this conference. You

1035
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: love this conference, You continue to follow this conference, You

1036
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: continue to celebrate the athletes and use the platform that

1037
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: you built with your life experiences to pour back in

1038
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: other people, and I just love having access to that

1039
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,959
Speaker 1: and being able to help out with it. So thank

1040
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: you Jas for the review. I got all warm and

1041
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: fuzzy right in the middle of the podcast, and now

1042
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: we can go right back into the ugly stuff.

1043
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: Well, actually, before we get into the ugly stuff, we

1044
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 3: are getting down to the end of the season, and uh,

1045
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: while while you were talking this just let you know

1046
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: that sometimes some some people just joke around too much.

1047
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: I was looking at your shirt today and I was like, Ralph, Ralph,

1048
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: Ralph looks.

1049
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: Like he works for Spectrum.

1050
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: Right now, You're like, you're going to go install some

1051
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: cable after we finished this.

1052
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: If I work for Spectrum, my internet would definitely work

1053
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: better than it does.

1054
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: All right.

1055
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: So we're getting down to the close to the end

1056
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: of the year and and we quickly go over who

1057
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: we think are kind of the top prospects for the

1058
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: uh the end of the year awards, and right now,

1059
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: who would you vote Coach of the Year right now?

1060
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: Or who do you think Coach of the Year will be?

1061
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: How about?

1062
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: How about how about that?

1063
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 3: Who do you think it will ultimately end up being?

1064
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: By predicting kind of what how conference finishes.

1065
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: Gosh, that is that is a really hard question. You

1066
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: open with the hard one. Probably Jetfish because and I'm.

1067
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: Just because they because they have five wins right now. Yeah,

1068
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: and if they get to seven or eight, that'll be

1069
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 3: pretty damn outstanding.

1070
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: And the middle of their schedule was hard, Yeah, super hard,

1071
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: and they won. They beat multiple ranked teams. Uh. Shout

1072
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: out that the stupid Zona Zoo student section who is

1073
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: chanting overrated at the end of that Oregon State game,

1074
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: you idiots that rated? No, no, properly rated. You're just

1075
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: better take the w y stuff makes me so mad.

1076
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: No, I get that, so mad.

1077
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: But I probably Jetfish, I because I you Caitlin de

1078
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: boor you got it last year, right, you don't give it.

1079
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: They don't really do the two in the It's all

1080
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: b expectation based. So so many people said that Washington

1081
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: was gonna win the conference that I don't think you

1082
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: get credit for meeting expectations.

1083
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, And and I know that people

1084
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: are gonna be like, oh, Joe, of course you say this,

1085
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: But I do think that you have to consider Dan

1086
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 3: Lanning for that as well, because nobody was picking Oregon

1087
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: to win the conference.

1088
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: Nobody. They were picking.

1089
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: Washington USC and then they were like, yeah, utah, because

1090
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: they're always a problem.

1091
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: Replacing the O line is something that you have to

1092
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: factor in super heavily too. Yeah, the way Oregon is

1093
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: playing right now, Yes, and if Landing will be my

1094
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: number two.

1095
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, if yeah, I would, That's the way I would

1096
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 3: punch that ticket too. If Dion can get the team

1097
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: to a bowl game, he got to be in there too.

1098
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: M hm, Dion bet because they still have Arizona, right, yeah,

1099
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: Colorado Arizona. Ye, maybe Colorado beats Arizona and then they

1100
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: end up in a bowl, then that would rocket him

1101
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: back to the discussion. But I also think that there's

1102
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: enough people that don't want to reward a coach for

1103
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: hitting the portal that hard.

1104
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: All Right, Offensive Player of the Year.

1105
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 3: This is a tough one, right because on one hand,

1106
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 3: this is this is less of a quarterback award.

1107
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: Than it is a.

1108
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: Then it is a good player award. But obviously you're

1109
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 3: gonna have Michael Pennick, Junior Bo Knicks, and Caleb Williams

1110
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 3: at the top of the list. But outside of those

1111
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 3: two guys, outside of those three guys, I think, yes,

1112
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 3: Bucky Bucky Irving is probably the guy that I would

1113
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 3: look at outside of outside of there.

1114
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I agree, Yeah, So I would

1115
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: probably go.

1116
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 3: Out of those three quarterbacks, it's going the winner is

1117
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 3: going to be the out of the two that play

1118
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: in the in the conference championship game.

1119
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: Hopefully nobody's voting before that happens, because it's I think

1120
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: it's going to really come down to it, don't you yes.

1121
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And well, well, if the voting has to be

1122
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: done prior to the Conference championship game, I think that

1123
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: it's going to be one of the two who's playing

1124
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: in it, right, But I do think that Bucky Irving

1125
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 3: after that has to be another option, like like somebody

1126
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 3: that you're looking at as h h.

1127
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

1128
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: And then how about.

1129
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: Defensive This is extremely difficult. I know who you liked

1130
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,479
Speaker 1: going into the season. I don't think that that's gonna

1131
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: be the case. I know who I liked going into

1132
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: the season. I don't think that's gonna be the case either.

1133
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's gonna come from either Washington

1134
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: or Oregon. And Travis Hunter missed time and also he

1135
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: got like pretty publicly head topped a couple of times. Yeah,

1136
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: but he's incredible, yes, yep. And there there is no

1137
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: individual defensive player from the two teams where the defenses

1138
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: have blown me away with with how much they've improved

1139
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: from u c l A or Arizona to where I

1140
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: could be like, you know, it's obviously this person Tafuna

1141
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: has missed time for utah Yea and Colorado's defense.

1142
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: But you got to give Jonah Jonah Jonah Ellis some

1143
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 3: some credit or uh Latu from u.

1144
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: C l A. Yeah, yeah, this one is. This one

1145
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: is extremely difficult because it's not gonna go to a

1146
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: team with a losing record. But when I look out,

1147
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: when I see just talent and I know he missed time,

1148
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: but like Travis Hunter is completely game changing. I don't know,

1149
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: this one is really tough for me. But maybe maybe

1150
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: maybe you take the best defensive player from the best

1151
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: overall defensive team to me, that's UCLA right now. And

1152
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, I guess take your pick from from UCLA.

1153
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeh, that makes sense.

1154
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: It really feels a team. Can you give danton Win

1155
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: defensive player or just give it to the whole defense.

1156
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that that one's tough for me. I

1157
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: don't I don't think I have a solid answer yet.

1158
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be Zion. You probably thought

1159
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: it was gonna be Birch. Yes, and neither one has

1160
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: been has has done the things that would They haven't

1161
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: had the signature moments at all.

1162
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

1163
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 3: And uh, Freshman of the Year, I think that offensive

1164
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 3: Freshman of the Year. I think that defensive is probably easier.

1165
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it to Matteo ut Out of Oregon

1166
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 3: because he's been Freshman of the Week I think twice already.

1167
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: M hm. So I think that that puts you in

1168
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: the conversation. And then who would you put on that list?

1169
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: Uh?

1170
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: Is Zachariah Branch is a freshman? Right?

1171
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1172
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: I think I think he's gonna make All Pac twelve.

1173
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: Is the return specialist. Okay, but but he's missed a

1174
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 3: lot of time and and honestly, he hasn't really done

1175
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 3: much on offense.

1176
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: It's been in the return game.

1177
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: Is Mendoza a freshman than now?

1178
01:04:59,160 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: I think he is.

1179
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: There's actually a lot of good freshmen. There's a lot

1180
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: of good freshmen.

1181
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: Well, that's a that's a spot where you could find

1182
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: Travis Travis Hunter as the offensive Freshman of the Year.

1183
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: Is he is he technically Oh.

1184
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: He's not a freshman. No no, no, no, no, no.

1185
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: He's he would be newcomer if there is is it

1186
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 3: freshman or newcomer?

1187
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's interesting because Fafita did he red shirt?

1188
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: Did he only play four games last year? Because if

1189
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: he's a freshman, he is a red shirt freshman. Yeah,

1190
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: then that that's probably that awards probably wrapped up bingo.

1191
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 2: See see there you go.

1192
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,479
Speaker 3: See that's why you make the big bugs. All right,

1193
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 3: on to the games this weekend, because we had a

1194
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 3: bunch of really good games and and we'll start out

1195
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: with the first game, which was the twelve thirty game,

1196
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 3: which was that Oregon Utah game. And when you heard

1197
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 3: Kyle wit him after the game, he said, that's about

1198
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: as thorough of a whooping as we've ever taken since

1199
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: he's been there. He said, maybe maybe like seven eight

1200
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: years ago versus TCU. And he also and he said

1201
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: that the score was not indicative of of how the

1202
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: game was. That that that the that it was worse

1203
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 3: than the score dictated.

1204
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Pretty cool if you're an organ fan to

1205
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: physically dominate a team that has done it to you.

1206
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: You have to like the direction of the program under

1207
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: Dan Leading. It's a very affirming victory. You have to

1208
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: understand that this a thirty plus point loss, has not

1209
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: happened to Utah in the PAC twelve era at home,

1210
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: not once, not once. So or was this a twenty

1211
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: nine point win?

1212
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty nine point win.

1213
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: Still hasn't happened. Still hasn't happened. There are two worst

1214
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: losses in the PAC twelve era. They lost to thirty

1215
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: They lost by thirty at Arizona State once and they

1216
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: lost by thirty two and twenty fourteen to Arizona team.

1217
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: Both of those games were away. This has not happened.

1218
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: They haven't had more than like a seventeen point loss

1219
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: I think at home in the whole PAC twelve era.

1220
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: And it happened. It happened twelve years in the in

1221
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: the crux of Utah development of all of their players

1222
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: all over the field. And I understand that Utah is

1223
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: beat up, but the way they play doesn't typically allow

1224
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: for them to get run like this. And that crowd

1225
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: was noisy in the first quarter and they got taken

1226
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: out of it completely, just an all around, Like I said,

1227
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: an affirming win. If you don't believe in Dan Lanning

1228
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: after that, then you're not gonna Because this is the

1229
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 1: first time that Oregon has really looked like what Daan

1230
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: Lanning wants it to look like. Offensively and defensively against

1231
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: a ranked opponent. This is what this is what he did.

1232
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: This to Colorado too. But we knew about Colorado. We

1233
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: knew the truth about Colorado. We knew they were gonna

1234
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: get exposed. This is this was just super impressive, and

1235
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: I get you know, Kyle Whittingham did what he could.

1236
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,480
Speaker 1: He got on that motorcycle, rode onto the Pat McAfee set.

1237
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: You know, he promoted his program. They had College Game

1238
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: Day there. He did all he did enough to make

1239
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: Utah visible and then he just had to hope nobody

1240
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: was watching.

1241
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: Well, Utah has a little bit of a problem. They

1242
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 3: got a quarterback.

1243
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: Problem and a running back problem and a yes, they

1244
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: got they got a skill position problem that they've always had.

1245
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: They've just always been able to cover up for it.

1246
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you're a kid, I'm I don't think

1247
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 3: that kids really understand what's going on it you taught.

1248
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 3: I think they're doing a better job of trying to

1249
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 3: advertise it. But in recruiting, I'm like, yo, explosive athlete,

1250
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 3: come to me, Come to me, because I don't think

1251
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 3: that they understand that. Andy Ludwig, he plays with what

1252
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: he got and and remember they were throwing the ball

1253
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 3: less and then but but Veley's come on. Mikey Matthews,

1254
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: who's a freshman at mission BA helped see. I just

1255
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: did a round right right there, good kid playing really

1256
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 3: well over at Utah freshmen.

1257
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 2: They will play you. They just need more of you.

1258
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, we.

1259
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: Will make you better. I you gotta, you, gotta, you

1260
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: gotta help me out here, George, because I'm I've spent

1261
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: a lot of time in Salt Lake City. It's a

1262
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: lovely place. Yes, I love and I it's a lovely

1263
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: place for if you want to go find some nonsense,

1264
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: if you want to be outdoors, if you want to

1265
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: be around money, if you want to be around live music.

1266
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: They have a lot of what you have. But it

1267
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: is it is white with a capitol w h Yes,

1268
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: and how I feel like that has I think it

1269
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: affected Jayden Daniel's recruitment. I really do, like I.

1270
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: Cause you do.

1271
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: You go there and you're like, damn, I love this place,

1272
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 3: and then you're there for me and you're like.

1273
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: Damn, it's really white out here.

1274
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: Bro.

1275
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 3: It's and granted I understand where like white people are,

1276
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't notice, like I'm just here to go

1277
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 3: to school, but when you like, there has to be

1278
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 3: somewhere where you can feel a little familiar.

1279
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,480
Speaker 1: Or you feel recruits. Yeah, done that because.

1280
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 2: There's a huge poly community there.

1281
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 3: So so going to Utah from California or Oregon or

1282
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 3: wherever else that that doesn't it's like okay.

1283
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: Cool, Yeah, yeah, I got some oosoles out there.

1284
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 3: I got some people I can you know, like where

1285
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 3: it's like if I'm missing home, I can go get

1286
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 3: a meal that makes me feel good. Yeah, Like I

1287
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 3: can go be around a family that I kind of

1288
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 3: connect with. And that doesn't mean that there aren't families

1289
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 3: there that won't love them, support them all of.

1290
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: That, because there are, but but there.

1291
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 3: Is you know, there's something about home that you know

1292
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: that's a little bit more comforting. So I want you

1293
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 3: Tah to work. I love Utah, and like, like I

1294
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 3: would want my son to go if like if Utah

1295
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 3: were like, hey, if Andy Lovewit called me right right now,

1296
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 3: it was like Joe Gi, we want Damon right now.

1297
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 3: You gotta say yes or no. Damon would say yes,

1298
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 3: and I would say yes.

1299
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, man, I just And it's

1300
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: not so much because obviously you're a football program, you're

1301
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: a college, you got athletes. There's black people, yes, but

1302
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: there's poly culture. There's not like black culture like you're

1303
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: talking about, like finding spaces where you can feel like

1304
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: you're at home, where you can feel like yourself. It's

1305
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: not there in abundance, and it I feel like it

1306
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: really stifles their ability to bring recruits in. It far

1307
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: be it for me to to speak on, like, you know,

1308
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: issues of race in the state of Utah. But just

1309
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Speaker 1: I'm from Wyoming. I spent a lot of time in Utah,

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Speaker 1: trust me, Like I notice it's like I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know the difference about where I'm from and where

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Speaker 1: I grew up. You know, Arizona a little bit of

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01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: a melting pot, Wyoming, Utah. Not that these are pioneered

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Speaker 1: towns started by you know, white people who cleared out

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01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: Native cleared out Natives so they could have their own

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01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: space and it and and it has been their own

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Speaker 1: space for a really really long time, and like you said,

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Speaker 1: white people don't necessarily notice. You know, there's probably people

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Speaker 1: turning this off right now when we make everything about race. No,

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Speaker 1: Utah is a very and as somebody who's a Charlotte

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: resident now and you know, in a whole different type

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Speaker 1: of like, uh community, as far as its makeup, like Utah,

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01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of places like Utah where you

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01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: have a major Western American city that is not diverse

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:11,919
Speaker 1: dominantly white. Yeah, yep, not Asian, not black, not Mexican.

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Speaker 1: They got good Mexican food in Utah though, but like

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01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: they don't. It's it is very white. And for people

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Speaker 1: that are quit white with bad no, like, that's not

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm saying that in the same way

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Speaker 1: that there are white kids that maybe would have a

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01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: hard time going to play at a DC school or

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Speaker 1: something like that.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly, Yeah, It's just is what it is, all right, Uh.

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Speaker 3: Colorado UCLA UCLA twenty eight, Colorado sixteen. I was in

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01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 3: attendance for this game. Ralph Ethan Garbage is doing a

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01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 3: good job at quarterback. Chip Kelly said that they that

1337
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 3: he didn't that he made the switch because you know,

1338
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 3: Dante was a little bit heard, and they Ethan had

1339
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 3: a good week of practice and then obviously came out

1340
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 3: and played fantastic last week.

1341
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 2: He played pretty damn good this week two.

1342
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:16,480
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, Ethan Garbers is the starting quarterback.

1343
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 3: Now yeah, and now this this UCLA offense, I will say, like,

1344
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 3: this is how good the UCLA defense is.

1345
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: Ralph.

1346
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 3: They either had three or four first half turnovers and

1347
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 3: won the game. They only gave up six points, six

1348
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 3: points in the first half, and they had all their

1349
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 3: turnovers in the first half.

1350
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: They had oh yeah, yeah, they had.

1351
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 3: Four turnovers in the first half. Carson still fumbled twice,

1352
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 3: I mean, just nasty fumbles, which led to him getting

1353
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 3: pretty much no carries in the second half because he

1354
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 3: had fumble lights that game. I mean, he's still a good,

1355
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 3: good back and he has some good runs, but like

1356
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 3: on one of the fumbles, he broke loose for like

1357
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 3: twenty something, whack up ballfly up in the air in

1358
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 3: the red zone. So U UCLA could have scored many

1359
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 3: more points this game. But having four turnovers in the

1360
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: first half and only giving up six points, that's pretty

1361
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 3: damn incredible. And Colorado added a late touchdown. So I

1362
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 3: took away from this game UCLA is very good on defense.

1363
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 3: Colorado can't block me and you pass rushing Ralph. But

1364
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 3: as far as UCLA, my overarching takeaway was and I

1365
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 3: was there with my father in law, right, who's a

1366
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 3: UCLA donor. They've donated scholarships, all types of stuff. He

1367
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: was like, he was like, there's no juice around this program.

1368
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 3: He was like, it's so frustrating. Chip's clearly a good coach.

1369
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 3: They're winning, Like there's no juice, Like that's why the

1370
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: Rose Bowl is not full except for this Colorado. I

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01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: mean it was a sellout and it still wasn't full

1372
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: and they got tarps up.

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01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: Man, how did I not hear anything about the uniforms

1374
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: they were I pay attention.

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: Oh I love those Oh my god.

1376
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: So the game they should have been like they should

1377
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: have been promoting when say what you want about Adidas,

1378
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: say what you want about Adidas.

1379
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: When U C.

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Speaker 1: L A Was with Adidas, I know people thought that

1381
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: stuff was ugly, but they were promoting it. The La

1382
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: mid Nights. They were promoting that ten days out they

1383
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: had hun La.

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01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 3: But that's that's you that That's what I'm talking about

1385
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 3: there's no juice around the program is that they did

1386
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 3: put out a video about it. They put out all

1387
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 3: type of artwork, all of that stuff. Because my my,

1388
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 3: my wife's a UCLA person and that comes up on

1389
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: on her algorithm. It didn't come up on mine, like

1390
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 3: it barely came up on mine. And we literally like

1391
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 3: we should be like PAC twelve targeted for suggested posts.

1392
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 3: So they're not doing a good job of getting with

1393
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 3: complex sneaker news, all of this stuff to like uniform

1394
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 3: swag all of these places to like promote the brand.

1395
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 3: And that's exactly great point that goes back to what

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 3: my father in law was talking about. There's no juice

1397
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 3: around the program, and the juice is how you recruit

1398
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: better and but the juice is not chips. Jam like

1399
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 3: Chip created so much juice at Oregon unintentionally by the offense.

1400
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: It was it was revolutionary, it was fast, It had

1401
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 3: people talking about it because they were winning and because

1402
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 3: of this the way that they were winning. Now they're

1403
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 3: winning running the ball, doing it like there's no and

1404
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 3: granted style style of players. That's the where Oregon plays

1405
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,440
Speaker 3: right now. But there's so much juice surrounding the program.

1406
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 3: There is like there is some you you do have

1407
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 3: to be about clicks on some level, like you like

1408
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 3: you have to be rooted in substance, but understand that

1409
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 3: that substance comes from from the that that you can

1410
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 3: turn the clicks into substance.

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01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: And there are ways, like there's stuff that's unique to

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01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: UCLA where they could that stuff about them eating lobster

1413
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: every day, Like I know it's not true, but they

1414
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: obviously spend more on feeding their players than like than

1415
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: anything like that. Lobster dinner should be a rallying cry

1416
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: of the offense or the defense, right like throw up

1417
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: the claw or something like that, we're eating good tonight.

1418
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: Something some type of thing that people can get behind

1419
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: and get and get in.

1420
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: Like this is the school.

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01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 3: Look at Orgon's video, look at Oregon's videos after like

1422
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 3: they have started. Washington now is doing it. All of

1423
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 3: these schools are now doing it because that's what because

1424
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: Oregon led the way and and every and and you

1425
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 3: can't tell me, Ralph that even non Oregon fans aren't

1426
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 3: looking forward to that video every week.

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01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: Oh, look at what Deon Junior is doing. Yep, Deon

1428
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: Junior puts out an our video that not not the

1429
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: team content team. Deon Junior puts out an our video

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01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 1: every week of a documentary of Colorado football, separate from

1431
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: anything that the team is putting out. He has his

1432
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 1: own thing like they're encouraging content creators. Deion Sanders yesterday

1433
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: was retweeting everybody who dressed up as him for Halloween.

1434
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: That's genius. Yes, he's a g Deion Sanders and I

1435
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:56,759
Speaker 1: know people are gonna receive this information. Uh in weird ways,

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01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: Deon Sanders is a genius. Genius or to someone who's

1437
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: college football minded, Deon Sanders is sensible, makes sense right

1438
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: he is. He is all about promoting, even in promoting himself,

1439
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: even like an Ann Randian way of like, uh, be

1440
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: selfish because what's good for you could be good for

1441
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: everybody else because you could you give what you have, right,

1442
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: He gets attention and then he gives attention. Chip doesn't

1443
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: want people talking about his program. Chip doesn't want to

1444
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: talk to the media. Really yep, Chip doesn't want flash

1445
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: and it's l a man, it's.

1446
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 3: Grace your So when we've been doing stuff, me and

1447
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 3: me and Ralph have been doing stuff with.

1448
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: With the YouTube.

1449
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 3: So you also you you guys go over to George

1450
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 3: Reister on YouTube check out the fee where we're putting

1451
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 3: a lot of great stuff together there and and like

1452
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 3: college football content that you guys will absolutely enjoy and

1453
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 3: make sure that you share share it with people. But

1454
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there thinking, hmmm, I like, it's clear that

1455
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 3: Chip doesn't want that, and but to win at a high.

1456
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: Level, you need that, like you and you you.

1457
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 3: Said, like is trying to do a little bit better

1458
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 3: job of recruiting earlier. But there's but they're still not

1459
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 3: as on top of it as some of these other

1460
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 3: schools are because you have kids feeling so much pressure

1461
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,839
Speaker 3: to recruit well, to commit earlier because of the transfer

1462
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: portal stuff and and all of that. So we'll see

1463
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 3: uh next game up. Because this Colorado team, yeah, and

1464
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 3: we and we talked about them in their offensive line

1465
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 3: what they got to figure out, and.

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 2: Yes, they absolutely did.

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01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: It didn't last four quarters, but I thought they.

1468
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 3: Hell, they got four turnovers in the first half, they

1469
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 3: should have been significantly more ahead than they were. Well, sorry, no,

1470
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 3: they were down seven to six at halftime and it

1471
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 3: didn't even look like that they could score because they

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01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 3: only scored a touchdown at the very end when UCLA

1473
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 3: was playing like prevent defense and just let them just

1474
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 3: like instead of playing their normal defense. They were like, oh,

1475
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 3: let's get into this super soft defense.

1476
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: And then they were ding ding ding ding.

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01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. How much black and gold did you see in

1478
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:40,440
Speaker 1: the stadium?

1479
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: A lot?

1480
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: Really? Yeah?

1481
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 3: In the parking lot. Yeah, there's a decent amount. I

1482
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 3: do think that some of the Colorado buzz is as

1483
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 3: far as the traveling road show, is dying down a

1484
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 3: little bit because they haven't been winning. But let them

1485
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 3: win this weekend, buddy, Let them win this weekend and.

1486
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: Then have a Bowl game be on the line with

1487
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: everything else they do this year.

1488
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: Woo yep, all.

1489
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 3: Right, usc Cal forty nine to fifty.

1490
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 2: Cal gave this game away.

1491
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: Jaydon Ott had twenty one carries for one fifty three

1492
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 3: in the first half, and I thought, I text you,

1493
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 3: I was like, dude, he's on the way to the

1494
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 3: back twelve record. But then he got hurt. Yeah, and

1495
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 3: then they couldn't run the ball anymore because they have

1496
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 3: a lot of injuries. Because if Fonse is hurt too,

1497
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 3: this is not yeah, yeah, this is not a good

1498
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 3: situation for them. They were up in this, so it

1499
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 3: was twenty nine to thirty six, I believe, Yeah, twenty

1500
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 3: nine thirty six. Starting the fourth quarter, Cal scores again.

1501
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,719
Speaker 3: They're up two scores. Then they start turning the ball

1502
01:23:54,800 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 3: over fumble, and then UCLA gets the ball back fumbled,

1503
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 3: right back. They had opportunities, Ralph to shut the door,

1504
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 3: but they didn't. And then at the end of the game,

1505
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: they scored and they made the right decision, which was

1506
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 3: to go for two. They just couldn't convert for two

1507
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 3: because if they because they couldn't keep this up it

1508
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 3: was already unraveling.

1509
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,879
Speaker 1: And not running the ball in that in that situation

1510
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: brought some criticism on because yeah, here's what I think though,

1511
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: I think we got some I think we got some

1512
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: people listening to our show. Why you said that, Well,

1513
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: what's my biggest criticism of in your biggest criticism of

1514
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: USC's offense.

1515
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:42,879
Speaker 2: They weren't running the football?

1516
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: What did they do against Cal?

1517
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 3: Run the football forty times?

1518
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: Forty times? Forty times? And they ran the ball with

1519
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 1: the game on the line while they were down. Yep,

1520
01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: it was refreshing. And what what is my that's my

1521
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: biggest criticism, maybe my only criticism that I harp on

1522
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: all the time about Justin Wilcox.

1523
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 2: Oh, that he won't run the football.

1524
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't show any emotions.

1525
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, exactly, yes, yes, that he is.

1526
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: This man was fired the f He wanted to beat

1527
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: USC so bad. He celebrated more on that missed field goal,

1528
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: which I want to talk about from the missed field

1529
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 1: goal right after halftime than I've ever seen him celebrate.

1530
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 3: Because he because he felt like he made something, that

1531
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 3: he did something that impacted the game.

1532
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: Can we talk about that field goal?

1533
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead?

1534
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: What the hell?

1535
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: Pack twelve officials, Pack twelve.

1536
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: Then they had to pull Justin Wilcox out of the

1537
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: locker room six minutes and a halftime. Lincoln Riley never

1538
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: left the field. Shout out to Lincoln Riley, by the way,

1539
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see you're feeling better. Uh. They had

1540
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: to pull Justin Wilcox out, and then they attempt a

1541
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: field goal to start the second half that should have

1542
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: been attempted at the end of the first half.

1543
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 3: And then and then they have to do the opening

1544
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 3: kickoff even after attempting the field goal.

1545
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: And USC missed it, which was very funny. Uh, Justin

1546
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: Wilcox used a time out to ice the kick.

1547
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

1548
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: Iced a kicker who had just spent twenty minutes doing

1549
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: nothing because it was technically halftime. I just everything about

1550
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: that was was it. We'd go on a highlight reel

1551
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: of intitude only happens in the Pact twelve. Yeah, I

1552
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 1: just that was wild. That was wild and it and

1553
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: then Cal had all the momentum. This was not a

1554
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: Kayleb Williams game. This is Marshaun Lloyd game.

1555
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 3: Yes seventeen for one fifteen, two touchdowns, fifty six yard long. Yeah,

1556
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 3: it feels like exactly what you would have seen from

1557
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 3: him if he had been getting the ball all the time.

1558
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,799
Speaker 1: I have two questions for you. This is the fourth

1559
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: ranked team that Cal has played. They're giving up an

1560
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: average of forty nine over that spam. That is horrific.

1561
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: So that's bad.

1562
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: What we talk about Alex Grinch a lot. We talk

1563
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: about Alex Grinch a lot, but we might need to

1564
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: talk about your.

1565
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: Old linebackers, teammates, teammates. Yeah, yeah, Pizza Simon.

1566
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 3: All right, Look, we have to tell the truth. They're

1567
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: not doing a good job. And there's no like that's

1568
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: not personal. It's just if you're giving up forty nine

1569
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 3: points a game against your three ranked teams.

1570
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 2: That ain't good enough for the average.

1571
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 1: If you take the dude, if you just take the

1572
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: three games that they gave up over fifty, it's like

1573
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: fifty five because they have a fifty nine, a fifty

1574
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: A thirty four against Utah, but that was Utah with

1575
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: a pig former quarterback.

1576
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 2: Yep Okay.

1577
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 3: So fifty nine to Washington, yes, fifty two to Oregon State,

1578
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 3: thirty four to Utah, and fifty to USC.

1579
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: So it's forty nine if you include the Utah score.

1580
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 1: They're giving up an average of forty nine if you

1581
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 1: include the Utah score. If you take that out, it's worse.

1582
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: They gave up but Washington. They scored thirty two against Washington.

1583
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means. Though they scored

1584
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 3: forty against Oregon State. I don't know what that means

1585
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 3: because they've given up points too. And they gave up

1586
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 3: forty nine to USC. I don't even know what that means.

1587
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 3: But Utah held them to fourteen. So this kind of

1588
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: feels like that this upcoming week against Oregon could be

1589
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 3: a bloodmath.

1590
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really could, because if what are they going

1591
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: to not give up fifty. That comes with the that

1592
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: like comes with the house, give up the refrigerator stays. So, oh,

1593
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: what are they going to score against this Oregon defense,

1594
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: which has not been kind to teams that are one dimensional.

1595
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 3: So let's say that they are, that there's a little

1596
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 3: bit of a letdown, right, which I don't think that

1597
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 3: there will be, but there is a little bit of

1598
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 3: a letdown. But they give up twenty. Yeah, if there's

1599
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 3: a letdown, but Oregon has not. They didn't let up

1600
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 3: versus Colorado. Well, but there was a hype game Utah.

1601
01:29:55,720 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 3: That was a hype game. They gave Wash. They didn't

1602
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 3: let up against They didn't play great against Washington State,

1603
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 3: but there was a trap game too. They gave up

1604
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 3: a late touchdown. But like organists covered every single game

1605
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 3: this season except one.

1606
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was on a garbage time down. I

1607
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: know you're so mad about it. Okay, So here's my

1608
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: second question, because there's no answer to like, what what

1609
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 1: do we do about Cal's defense? And just the USC's

1610
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: defense has been so bad that we're not talking about

1611
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 1: Sermon and Cal very much. And the expectations were high.

1612
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 3: See, but here's the problem is that U C l

1613
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 3: A's defense, USC's defense is so bootylicious, right that on

1614
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 3: one hand, you're saying, all right, they think they they suck, right,

1615
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 3: but then they saved the game.

1616
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: With a little help, a little help and some play calling.

1617
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just saying, is that is that is

1618
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 3: that that's the kind of saving grace that that that

1619
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 3: You're like, well, our offense wasn't what wasn't great, but

1620
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 3: our defense. Listen, they gave up, they gave it up,

1621
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 3: but when it mattered the most, they gotta stop. They

1622
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 3: gotta turn out.

1623
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: When it mattered the most. Both callen Arizona forgot that

1624
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: you could run the ball, Like, come on, call in Arizona.

1625
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 1: All right, all right, right, the Alex Grinch thing's not

1626
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: funny anymore. It was funny to poke at for a while.

1627
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:27,480
Speaker 1: But like, I'm at the point where I'm starting to believe.

1628
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: That because.

1629
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't. I'm starting to believe because on

1630
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: some level I do believe talent is destiny that is

1631
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: reflected in who plays for the national title every year. Yeah, okay,

1632
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: if you did not have anybody calling the defense, if

1633
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: you just let eleven former four and five star kids

1634
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 1: go out there, and make shit up.

1635
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 2: And just put one of them in charge.

1636
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: What would be the difference? Can it get worse?

1637
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm shit, you gave forty nine to col I don't

1638
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 3: know if it can get worse. Bro Like, like I thought,

1639
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 3: Josh Pate said something that was super smart last week

1640
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 3: when they played against Utah. Right, well, the week before

1641
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 3: when they played against Utah and everybody expected them to

1642
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 3: that Utah was gonna be a get right game for USC.

1643
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 3: He was like, nobody gets right against us against Utah,

1644
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 3: and they're.

1645
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 2: Like, well Oregon, No, Oregon was already right.

1646
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 3: You don't get right versus Utah, And but everybody gets

1647
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,799
Speaker 3: right on offense versus u USC's defense.

1648
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: Yes they do, Yes they do. I don't know. We

1649
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 1: gotta move on. This is on the unanswerable questions. There's

1650
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 1: two very bad defenses. Congratulations to USC, question mark, congratulate.

1651
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: I no longer believe that. I believed that, because USC

1652
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: would have to win three top ten games in order

1653
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 1: to go undefeated the rest of the way, that that

1654
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,719
Speaker 1: would give them the juice they needed to possibly backdoor

1655
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: their way into college football playoff. I no longer believe

1656
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 1: that because it reminds me of Baylor. Remember when Baylor

1657
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 1: lost that game to TCU and then they went and

1658
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 1: won three top ten games, and it's still and all

1659
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: that did was keep everyone out of the college for

1660
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. That kept Oklahoma.

1661
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 3: So they got out Washington, Oregon and UCLA to finish

1662
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 3: the season. There is I would give that a zero

1663
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,560
Speaker 3: percent chance that they win all three of those games.

1664
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: But if they did, they'd get another shot at a top.

1665
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 2: Ten team in the Pac twelve Championship.

1666
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 1: Right, And I still don't think that would be enough because.

1667
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 3: That would be a lot bro Like, that would be

1668
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 3: a lot of winning if you'll get two top ten

1669
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 3: teams and PASSA and then UCLA maybe in the top

1670
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 3: twelve at that time if they went out.

1671
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Bail, I'm saying Baylor did this. Baylor did this,

1672
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 1: but because they blew a game against TCU earlier in

1673
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 1: the season, they got held out.

1674
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it'll it'll be hard to put USC above

1675
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 3: Notre Dame the way that they did them.

1676
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1677
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 3: See, it'd be different if they had two losses like

1678
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 3: Notre Dame. Well like that, like that Notre if both

1679
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 3: of their losses was the way Ohio State lost to

1680
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 3: Notre Dame, but they got manhandled in both of their

1681
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 3: losses against Utah and against Notre Dame.

1682
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 1: So right now, USC's best opportunity is to ruin things

1683
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 1: for everybody else, just like they did by leaving the

1684
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: conference in the first place. I don't think they have

1685
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: the capability to do it, though. I don't.

1686
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 3: I totally, I totally agree with you and this team.

1687
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 3: Just in case anybody is wondering, they are ninth in

1688
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 3: total defense. They're giving up four hundred and twenty yards

1689
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 3: a game. Cal is right in front of them scoring defense.

1690
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 3: They are ninth as well. They're giving up thirty two

1691
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 3: points a game.

1692
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.

1693
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 3: Next game up, we had Washington Stanford.

1694
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 2: Stanford was getting.

1695
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 3: Cooked by Colorado and it took an angels in the

1696
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 3: outfield to win that game.

1697
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 2: They got happen.

1698
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 3: Oregon forty two to six, Ucla forty two to seven.

1699
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 3: That's what defense can do for you. Washington gave up

1700
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 3: thirty three points to Stanford, and if it weren't for

1701
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 3: a dropped pass on fourth down to a wide open player,

1702
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 3: they would have lost this football game.

1703
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 1: Ralph, you think that they you think Stanford would because

1704
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: that happened deep in Ashton. No one's bringing that up.

1705
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: That happened, so they still would have had to march

1706
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: down the field, but.

1707
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 2: They were cutting through.

1708
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he would have gotten more yards on that

1709
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 3: play too.

1710
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1711
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 3: Ashton Daniels threw for three hundred and sixty seven yards

1712
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 3: in a touchdown, ran for another eighty one, and elc

1713
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 3: i Amnor nine for one forty six, Tiger Bachmeyer ten

1714
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 3: for ninety five.

1715
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:48,839
Speaker 2: They got Ashton Daniels.

1716
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 3: Look, I don't even I didn't even recognize this person, Like,

1717
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 3: I don't even know who Ashton Daniels is.

1718
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 2: Because of the Washington and Colorado game.

1719
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 3: Now, like I'm like, are Oregon and ucla'sd defense is

1720
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 3: that damn good? Or are these defenses that damn bad?

1721
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 3: Because we know Colorado's defense is bad. We know USC's

1722
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 3: defense is bad.

1723
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: NTL Territory and remember USC beat this team fifty six

1724
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: to ten.

1725
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 2: Granted was in the beginning of the season, but still.

1726
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: We're enohing to lose territory. They are missing two of

1727
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 1: their best offensive players, and they've decided that they're going

1728
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: to toss it up to Elic iaman Or every time

1729
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 1: he's not in bracketed coverage and it's working. They're just

1730
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:42,160
Speaker 1: doing the stuff that works. I think it's awesome. I

1731
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: think it's awesome. They should have won this game. Washington

1732
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 1: can't get home on the pass rush and that was

1733
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be a strength going into this year. That's horrifying.

1734
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: And people keep pointing out that, like, oh, Michael Pennix

1735
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 1: is a much different player when you get restaurant. So

1736
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:05,759
Speaker 1: is everyone. So is everyone, but especially pocket passers. Yes, correct,

1737
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 1: what do you think pocket passers? So? So the revelation

1738
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: is pocket passers don't throw as well when they're getting

1739
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: hit by three hundred pounds men. No way, of course, not,

1740
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: of course not. So if you are able to get

1741
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: to Michael Pennix, he's going to struggle a little bit.

1742
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 1: His struggling looks pretty damn good.

1743
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 2: Though, Yes it does.

1744
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 3: Hey, now, now I do like the pressure element of

1745
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:39,799
Speaker 3: it because if because Oregon beat him up and maybe

1746
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 3: that was some indication of what was going on in

1747
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 3: the Arizona State game, and then people were saying, oh,

1748
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 3: he was sick, then he was sick too. Well, listen

1749
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 3: and listen, I don't care about no sick. When you

1750
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 3: when you stand out there on the field, you got

1751
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 3: to take accountability. And if you throw for three hundred

1752
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 3: and sixty nine yards and four touchdowns.

1753
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 2: You you are right enough.

1754
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, this Washington team, this is why Washington is

1755
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 3: not ranked in the top four right now?

1756
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 2: Is these two weeks? And yeah, so that's where we are?

1757
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 1: What so what are what do we eat? What's the

1758
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: Troy Taylor narrative at this point the man has Right now,

1759
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 1: He's had like the biggest comeback ever against Dion. He

1760
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 1: almost knocked off a top five team in the country,

1761
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: but he also lost to the school that you worked

1762
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: for last year, which is at the FCS level. And

1763
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: they've been they they have been jack stumped against every

1764
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 1: good team they've played except for Washington. Is it Are

1765
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 1: you encouraged or do you look at everything through the

1766
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 1: lens of like Stanford can't get right in the modern

1767
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,879
Speaker 1: era anyway? So it's kind of it's kind of tragic.

1768
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 1: Every good thing Stanford does is kind of because you

1769
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: know what they could be. Jim Harbaugh and David Shaw

1770
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 1: showed you what they could be and I don't know

1771
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: if they could ever get back to that based on

1772
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 1: the way things are trending, correct, correct.

1773
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 3: I think that that makes it very very tough for

1774
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 3: them to for them to do that, But.

1775
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 1: Could they do it a little bit in the ACC?

1776
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Are they going to be better off in the ACC

1777
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 1: than they are in the PAC twelve? N Uh?

1778
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 3: Oh god, yes, because there aren't as many good teams

1779
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 3: in the ACC, at least as of right now. But if,

1780
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 3: but if they but on the years that the ACC

1781
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:40,839
Speaker 3: has a strong year.

1782
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got it.

1783
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:43,639
Speaker 3: They got a problem on their hands, pile, they got

1784
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:51,560
Speaker 3: a major problem on their hands. So yeah, stinks, man stinks.

1785
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 3: Next game up, Oregon State Arizona. I feel like I

1786
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 3: called this one, Ralph, you did?

1787
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: You did? I did a quick rewatch of this one

1788
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: this morning. I gotta say, what they did before halftime

1789
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 1: was very confusing to me.

1790
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 2: Oh that shut out?

1791
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Manu who broke up a touchdown

1792
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: with the back of his wrist on accident. Hell of

1793
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 1: a play, but running trying to get a twenty yard

1794
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: touchdown run?

1795
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 3: It was too far. It was just too far. Had

1796
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 3: it been twelve yards? Ten yards?

1797
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

1798
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: Hell of a play call? Yeah, Like, what was it before?

1799
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,719
Speaker 1: Did you really think it was gonna work? That's weird?

1800
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 3: It was just too far. It was just too far.

1801
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 3: Great play call, though, wonderful play call.

1802
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 1: Had that been a running back, the blocking was there

1803
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 1: that he might have could have done something like the

1804
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: blocking was set up so well, But like, what is

1805
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 1: there a reason they didn't take the three points there?

1806
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:57,879
Speaker 1: There was a chip shot field goal.

1807
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 3: They thought they could still but still a possession instead

1808
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 3: of going in the because I think they were getting

1809
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 3: the ball back first and they were like, oh, we

1810
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 3: can take advantage of this right right now. And when

1811
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 3: they went and have time ten to ten, I was like, oh,

1812
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 3: this is a problem, buddy.

1813
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 1: The fact they didn't spike the ball on the second

1814
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 1: down play they kind of let the clock run. I

1815
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:20,919
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't like the way that that was managed.

1816
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 1: Obviously there's other stuff at play here. I'm gonna I'm

1817
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 1: not lie, dude. Oregon State did not look bad in

1818
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: this game. They didn't Arizona took it from them. I

1819
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: thought dj Uongala looked great. I thought that the whole

1820
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 1: quarterback thing they're doing is confusing to me, and you'll

1821
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: talk more about that, I'm sure, But at the end

1822
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: of the game, dj looked good standing in there making throws.

1823
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he drove them down at the end to

1824
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 3: get a touchdown to cut it from a two score

1825
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 3: game to where it was right there to twenty seven

1826
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 3: twenty four.

1827
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: I thought they looked all right on defense. That it's

1828
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to defend those like deep ins and outs

1829
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 1: that Arizona runs because then get some yards after the catch.

1830
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: But I thought Oregon State looked okay in this game.

1831
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: I disagree with what they did before halftime, but other

1832
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: than that, I thought they played well. And Arizona keeps

1833
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 1: putting everything in front of them and limiting opportunities and

1834
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 1: limiting possessions, and they're doing this bin but don't break

1835
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 1: defense thing, and it just keeps working. Yea. At some

1836
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 1: points they're gonna run up against somebody who's just like,

1837
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: we're fine with that. We're just gonna run the ball.

1838
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 1: Maybe that'll be Utah, they're like, oh, you want to

1839
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 1: keep everything in front of you, that's cool. We only

1840
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 1: wanted four yards per possession or per play anyway, and

1841
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 1: so you know, maybe that doesn't work against everybody, but

1842
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 1: right now it's working. I think Arizona is very impressive.

1843
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: And I'm done with the whole waffling on the FAFEEDA thing.

1844
01:43:58,439 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you can ever go back.

1845
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, do you know this crazy is I'm actually

1846
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 3: looking right now for I'm actually looking right now to

1847
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 3: see if they believe well who he said is going

1848
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 3: to be the starting quarterback because Jedfish Jedfish. Since the game,

1849
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 3: we have not heard about who's going to be their

1850
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 3: starting quarterback yet, Like and I would have to assume

1851
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 3: that it's going to be Noah Fafita. I mean that

1852
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 3: that would make no sense, That would make no sense.

1853
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 3: But I'm looking on the Twitter machine in the in

1854
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 3: the search, I got nothing, pal, I got nothing.

1855
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 2: About who's going to be the start quarterback.

1856
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm not getting pulled back into this whole quarterback debate.

1857
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 1: Let's debate the other side.

1858
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 3: Okay, the other side is okay, see now you have relented.

1859
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 2: It's fine.

1860
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 3: So Ralph does not like the fact that Aiden Childs

1861
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 3: is getting a series or two every single game for

1862
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 3: Oregon State. He got a series this time in the

1863
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 3: first half, which I actually think was the perfect time

1864
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 3: to do it. But I believe that this is clear

1865
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 3: who is their starting quarterback of the future, because you

1866
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 3: don't get Aiden Childs in the game and make sure

1867
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 3: he's starting to get a little bit of experience in

1868
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 3: games that matter.

1869
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: When you're down ten to seven, when you're down in.

1870
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 3: The in the second quarter, yeah, and you're like, yeah,

1871
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 3: here's the drive. Because then he gets a chance to

1872
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 3: feel real pressure. Understand it. He did a good job.

1873
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 3: He almost threw a pick, but then he came back

1874
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,599
Speaker 3: and ran the ball through some good passes got him

1875
01:45:57,640 --> 01:45:58,919
Speaker 3: down in scoring position.

1876
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it.

1877
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 3: I don't hate this at all because it is clear

1878
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 3: who their starting quarterback is.

1879
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 2: It is deep feel like I.

1880
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: Feel like I'm taking crazy pills then, because it's not

1881
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,800
Speaker 1: that I don't like that they're giving him series. What

1882
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't like is that if you're giving somebody critical series,

1883
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 1: you have two quarterbacks and no, like nobody for some

1884
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 1: reason did did No.

1885
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,440
Speaker 2: They don't. They're only giving him one.

1886
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. That did did Oregon

1887
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 1: State somehow break the model of the whole thing. We've

1888
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 1: always said if you if you have two quarterbacks, you

1889
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,000
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. I don't even necessarily believe that

1890
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: to be true. But if you're playing two quarterbacks, you

1891
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks, you are running a two quarterback system.

1892
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 1: Are you not since when Okay, let me let me

1893
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 1: phrase it a different way so you can see why

1894
01:46:56,240 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 1: I'm going insane here. Is playing two quarterbacks, not playing

1895
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks?

1896
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 2: Yes, what do you what do you? What do you mean? Yes?

1897
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks?

1898
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,560
Speaker 2: They're only giving him a series.

1899
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 1: Or two sometimes.

1900
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,720
Speaker 3: Come on, bro, they're they're only giving him two in

1901
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 3: like blowout games and games that they that are firmly

1902
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 3: in hand. You can't hate this, Ralph. This is not

1903
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 3: a two quarterback system, Ralph. But you know what situation

1904
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 3: I do hate what I do hate. I hate what's

1905
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 3: going on at u c l A right now with

1906
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:40,440
Speaker 3: with with Collin Schlee because they're putting.

1907
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 1: Him at two quarterback system.

1908
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, that that is a peer two quarterback system.

1909
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 3: Because it's not that they're using that for developmental purposes.

1910
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 3: They're using that as like as a strategy. See there's

1911
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:00,759
Speaker 3: see there's a difference because the Oregon State is using

1912
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 3: it as a developmental thing. This is strategy where they

1913
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 3: put contin Slee in Colorado was able to stop the

1914
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 3: run when Colin Slee came in. Why because they knew

1915
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 3: he wasn't gonna throw it. And then Chip Chip got

1916
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 3: too smart and was like, yeah, see look, they think

1917
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 3: that we're only gonna run it, but here we go

1918
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 3: throwing it pick.

1919
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:26,719
Speaker 2: So now he can't be trusted to throw the ball.

1920
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, I guess that there is nothing really

1921
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Aidan Childs brings to the table that that you couldn't

1922
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 1: get out of DJ, like technically, yeah.

1923
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 2: And the few.

1924
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 3: But then that adds to the questions about what that future,

1925
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,759
Speaker 3: what the future holds, because uh, DJ does have another

1926
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 3: year and I don't know how the NFL draft looks

1927
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 3: for him at this point in time. All right, last

1928
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 3: game up. We got the Whyshington State Cougas versus the

1929
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 3: Arizona State Sun Devils thirty eight twenty seven. Sun Devils

1930
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 3: gotta win. And this feels like exactly why. I mean, well, first,

1931
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 3: Arizona State has a superior coach, the superior strategists, And

1932
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 3: which team would you say is more talented.

1933
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 1: Ralph Arizona State, Arizona State. It's at Washington State has

1934
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 1: one player on defense that's over three hundred pounds Nam Rodman.

1935
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 1: They're small, They're very small. Like there are guys on

1936
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: Washington State's roster that I love. I think they got

1937
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 1: a couple of really good offensive linemen. I think Josh

1938
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 1: Kelly and Lincoln Victor are just awesome, awesome receivers, not

1939
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 1: great run after the catch guys, but really really good receivers.

1940
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 1: And cam Ward I think is an NFL talent. But

1941
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the team, no, like.

1942
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 2: Not is it.

1943
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no. And this is why I

1944
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 1: actually think that Jake Diggett's a really good coach, because

1945
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: I think that that Washington State has overperformed their their

1946
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 1: their talent level a little bit and gotten away with

1947
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 1: just a very small, small, not super athletic defense.

1948
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 2: So and they're not running the football.

1949
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 1: No, they can't. They can't. So you know, I think

1950
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 1: the more talented team won. But because everything starts in

1951
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 1: the trenches and we know what Arizona State is dealing

1952
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 1: with at offensive line, that it has been almost impossible

1953
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: for Arizona State to be competitive in some of these games,

1954
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 1: and the fact that they have is a huge credit

1955
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 1: to the scheming of Kenny Dillingham. It feels really good

1956
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,320
Speaker 1: to win a game, though, really good, first time first

1957
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 1: Power Five win for Kenny Dillingham. They ran the ball,

1958
01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: so they didn't have a run over twenty yards all season, George.

1959
01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 1: They got a sixty six yarder from Camp Scatawowy in

1960
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 1: this de Carlos Brooks scored three times. He's been injured,

1961
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 1: so having him back was real cool. And Washington State

1962
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 1: kept trying to arm tackle Elijah Badger. That doesn't work.

1963
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 1: He ran through everybody. So, uh, it was it was.

1964
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 1: It was just really nice to see Arizona State get

1965
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 1: w Washington State's in trouble. And I don't know, I

1966
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 1: don't know if cam Ward can do much more than

1967
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 1: he's doing now. Because this is the third game where

1968
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: he went off and they lost that. I've been like, well,

1969
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 1: what more can he do? You know, I don't know.

1970
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 1: He threw for four four thirty eight against Oregon.

1971
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah, he threw for a lot of yards, but

1972
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:51,679
Speaker 3: it didn't result in points.

1973
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a very bad red zone team too. They're

1974
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 1: really good between the between the twenties and move in

1975
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 1: the football. But yeah, I don't know. Shout out to

1976
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 1: Arizona State. I'm just I'm happy to finally get a win.

1977
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 1: H I don't know if that's going to continue. So

1978
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 1: we got a couple of really good teams left, including

1979
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 1: Oregon and Utah, but Uh, it had to feel because

1980
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 1: stuff was getting tough. Because you can you can. You

1981
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: can give them all the mantras in the world. You

1982
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: can tell them keep chipping away at the rock, keep

1983
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 1: telling them not to quit. But it's got to be

1984
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 1: for something, and for them to finally break through and

1985
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: get a win and have it be at home. In

1986
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: a year where they have eight home games they want.

1987
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 1: The only two wins have been at home, so the

1988
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 1: home fans have seen a lot of losing. It was

1989
01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 1: just nice, felt nice.

1990
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 2: Basic losing is over.

1991
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 3: All, right, Yeah, And I don't Washington State gonna be

1992
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 3: tough tough getting to a bowl game. They're gonna have

1993
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:54,640
Speaker 3: to go through Colorado, all right. Lasting up is the

1994
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 3: PAC twelve Power rankings, and I did them this week.

1995
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 3: Let me know if you have any air here, Okay,

1996
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:11,639
Speaker 3: Ralph number one, Oregon two, Washington three, Utah, Wow four,

1997
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 3: Oregon State five, USC six, UCLA seven, Arizona eight, Colorado nine,

1998
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 3: Arizona State, ten, Washington State eleven, col twelve, Stanford.

1999
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:38,719
Speaker 1: The bottom makes sense to me. The three through three

2000
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: through six is highly debatable, don't you think.

2001
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I can't put Utah above or I

2002
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 3: mean I guess I could put Oregon State above Utah, but.

2003
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: But they just lost to Arizona.

2004
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I want to skyrocket Arizona up like

2005
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:06,680
Speaker 3: I want to, but yeah, but then it's hard to

2006
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 3: put them above USC. It's hard to put them a book,

2007
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, Like I can't put

2008
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:13,879
Speaker 3: them above any of those teams they play.

2009
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 1: Even though they're they're better than USC. Yeah, the same

2010
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 1: way that, in the same way that you have Oregon

2011
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: above Washington, I would have Arizona above USC because that

2012
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 1: happened in La, did it not?

2013
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? It did?

2014
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 3: Okay, so so okay, so then let's move U c

2015
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:31,080
Speaker 3: l A down to six.

2016
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 2: U c l A.

2017
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 1: It's an impossible test. I would leave it the way

2018
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 1: it is. But just understand how messy that that middle

2019
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 1: grouping is. Because you got Oregon State with the win

2020
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: over Utah, Arizona with the win over Oregon State. You

2021
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 1: saw USC technically beat Arizona, but they looked terrible doing it.

2022
01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 1: It's very very messy, very messy. And then you have

2023
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 1: the Washington State went over Oregon State, which kind of

2024
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 1: pulls it down. Then, okay, one one thing you want

2025
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 1: to point out about Oregon state is they played two

2026
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:09,480
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks and they lost both of those games.

2027
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 2: Yep.

2028
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna switch UCLA and USC then that'll make

2029
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 3: it feel better. And so USC at six, Ucla at five?

2030
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, sure, why not?

2031
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 2: All right? And the last thing is our player of

2032
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 2: the week.

2033
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: Okay, So who did you go with last week?

2034
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 2: I went with I went with Jade and Ott.

2035
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: So that's that's it there.

2036
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 2: Who did you have?

2037
01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Would you say Jay and Not had

2038
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: the best performance of anybody in the conference.

2039
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 2: He had twenty one for one and three touchdowns.

2040
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So George eight, Ralph six.

2041
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 2: So who are you taking this week?

2042
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 1: Uh? I don't think I've taken him yet. I don't

2043
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,000
Speaker 1: think I have, oh.

2044
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 3: Because we have to be super super quick here. So

2045
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 3: all right, So we got col Oregon. I forgot about

2046
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 3: this cal Oregon minus twenty four for Oregon and over

2047
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 3: under fifty nine. I got Oregon minus twenty four over

2048
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 3: fifty nine because they might score fifty nine out by themselves.

2049
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you on both of those picks.

2050
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 3: Washington, USC Washington minus thirty over under seventy six. I'm

2051
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:41,160
Speaker 3: taking the over and I'm gonna take USC.

2052
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 1: Seventy six.

2053
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 2: Yes, God dang.

2054
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:56,200
Speaker 1: Uh over Yeah, and I guess I guess I'll go Washington.

2055
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: But this this, this could go either way. Neither team

2056
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: is really looking that good right now. But I'll go

2057
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 1: with you. I'll take Washington and the over as well.

2058
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 3: All right, we got Ucla Arizona Ucla minus three over

2059
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 3: under fifty one. I will take the Bruins on the

2060
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 3: road with a traveling defense and the under.

2061
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 2: The under yep, fifty one.

2062
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's a That's one of the ballsiest picks

2063
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 1: that I think that you've made. I'm I'm gonna go

2064
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 1: opposite you with the the over. I think this game

2065
01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: might end up being a push, but I'm gonna roll

2066
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,440
Speaker 1: with the home team. I'm say Arizona plus three and

2067
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 1: the over.

2068
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 2: Oh, all right, Arizona boys, showing them love. I know

2069
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: you like this game.

2070
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 3: Utah at I'm sorry, Arizona State at Utah minus eleven,

2071
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 3: forty one and a half over under.

2072
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 1: I am all all over the plus eleven and the over.

2073
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 1: All over this is I feel and I feel better

2074
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 1: about this over than I felt about you know a

2075
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. I think Utah is probably gonna get

2076
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: to twenty. I think Arizona State has the ability to

2077
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: get to at least twenty, so that that over smashed

2078
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 1: that for sure. I'm gonna take Arizona State plus eleven

2079
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 1: because I think Utah got exposed a little bit and

2080
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 1: I think Arizona State's gonna be able to exploit some

2081
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 1: of the issues that Utah has on offense. I don't

2082
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 1: know if it'll be enough, but I did on another

2083
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: podcast predicting Arizona State win. I was feeling myself a

2084
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,920
Speaker 1: little bit, So I'll take ASU in the over.

2085
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 3: M m mm, pal, this is not a get right game.

2086
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 3: You don't get right against Utah, you get in. Utah

2087
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 3: will bounce back Utah minus eleven, and I'm gonna take

2088
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 3: the over. Stanford, Washington State, Washington State minus thirteen over

2089
01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 3: under fifty nine and a half. I will take Stanford

2090
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 3: plus thirteen and the over.

2091
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to take Washington State. I think it's going

2092
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 1: to be a fourteen point win and I'll take the

2093
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 1: over as well.

2094
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 3: Last game up Oregon State, Colorado, Oregon State, Well, Oregon

2095
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 3: State in folsom Field minus thirteen and a half over

2096
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:21,360
Speaker 3: under sixty two.

2097
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 2: Give me Colorado.

2098
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 3: I feel this is the best best I've ever felt

2099
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 3: about picking them against the spread plus thirteen and a

2100
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 3: half and I'm going to actually take the under.

2101
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 1: You know, you talked me into this off air. You

2102
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 1: talked me into and so what I ended up looking

2103
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 1: up was how Oregon State has fared against decent quarterbacks.

2104
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 1: Come to find out, Oregon State has only played two

2105
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 1: decent quarterbacks, both on the road, lost both games. This

2106
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 1: is going to be the best quarterback they faced. Yep,

2107
01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 1: I believe I do. You've sold me on Shader, not

2108
01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: in the pick him over Kayleb Williams way, but like, yeah,

2109
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 1: he this is the best quarterback they faced, and it's

2110
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 1: on the road. I don't know if Colorado wins, but

2111
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:09,400
Speaker 1: I definitely believe they're gonna cover.

2112
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. See.

2113
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:13,880
Speaker 1: So that back to our player of the week thing.

2114
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Yeah, what happens if

2115
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 1: I picked Travis Hunter?

2116
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

2117
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: Because we get one point for a quarterback, two points

2118
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:31,080
Speaker 1: for an offensive player, and three points for a defensive player.

2119
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:36,800
Speaker 1: He plays on both sides of the ball, So what

2120
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:38,640
Speaker 1: what do I get? Is it to no matter?

2121
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 2: Like okay, hold on, hold on?

2122
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:45,400
Speaker 3: So so no, no, no, so so if you pick Travis Hunter,

2123
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 3: you get either offense or defense.

2124
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 2: But but you don't have to pick prior prior to

2125
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 2: the game.

2126
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 3: So you so, so he either has to be better

2127
02:00:55,640 --> 02:01:01,280
Speaker 3: than the offensive player defensively or better than that offensive

2128
02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:07,200
Speaker 3: player offensively. Okay, Like it's like picking show hey o Tani.

2129
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:11,240
Speaker 3: You technically get both, but you only get the results

2130
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:11,560
Speaker 3: of one.

2131
02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:15,240
Speaker 1: Okay, so, but but it does give me an so

2132
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 1: when you choose to use Travis Hunter, it would give

2133
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 1: you the advantage of being able to pick correct. And

2134
02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:24,360
Speaker 1: what would be frustrating is had I picked him on

2135
02:01:24,440 --> 02:01:26,720
Speaker 1: defense this last week, I still would have lost.

2136
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

2137
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go with Travis Hunt. I'm gonna take

2138
02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 1: the risk. I'm gonna go with Travis Hunter. And then

2139
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:38,240
Speaker 1: I guess that's cool. I get to decide which part

2140
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:41,760
Speaker 1: of him I use. I'm leaning, I'm leaning I'm picking

2141
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 1: him for the offense this week. But I just wanted

2142
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,320
Speaker 1: to know what the rules were now that we have

2143
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 1: multiple players in the PAC twelve playing both sides of

2144
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 1: the ball.

2145
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going Big Penix energy talking about Big Penis energy.

2146
02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I like this is gonna be a

2147
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 1: good matchup.

2148
02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:05,720
Speaker 3: Yep, all right, you guys, that's back twelve Apostles. I'm

2149
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 3: George Reister, he's packed. Uh, he's Ralph AMers in peace out,

2150
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:09,840
Speaker 3: catch you later,