1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: All right, y'all. This week we're having a bit of 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: a more mature conversation. Right, Since my lovely producers love 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: to dig into my pockets and other podcasters like pocket watching, 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: I thought we would talk about the means of creating 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: generational wealth, but also black consumerism and how we view capitalism. Now, 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: if you are on the Patreon, we had a very 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: heated discussion around the existence of billionaires and whether you 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: can become a billionaire ethically or not. I believe in billionaires. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: I believe in back black billionaires, and I believe in 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: expounding and as much wealth as humanly possible while you 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: live on this earth, because why the fuck not? Money 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: is success, goddamn it. And I do believe that money 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: can buy happiness. I do want to talk about as well, 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: being thirty four years old and currently amassing the wealth 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: that I have me coming into the crossroads of realistically 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: feeling kind of pressured to buy real estate and leaning 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: into home ownership as someone who, as you guys may 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: have heard, does not want to be married, does not 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: want to family plan, and so the idea of buying 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: a home to live in it and then having to 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: pay for if the faucet breaks or mote the lawn, 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: or the HOA fees or the taxes on the land, 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: all of those things become an expense to where I'm 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: just like, but isn't rent just the cheaper route to go? 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: And then I want to talk about too, in this episode, 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: if we're talking about building generational wealth, what that really 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: looks like and if reparations would have helped us at all. 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: We're going to dig into some financial literacy, but also 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and state that I do 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: not believe that any of our community should see reparations. 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: That's right. We'll also talk about how Trump thinks that 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: white people are owed reparations for whatever reason. Anyways, Guys, 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: I am joined today by Ish from the Joe Button podcast, 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: who has been shaking his head and like, bitch, we 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: talked too much about this shit for you to still 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: be here with these thoughts. But I'm excited to have 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: this conversation because we do talk a lot about investment. 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: We do talk about money and where it should be 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: getting placed. And I think the more money I am 40 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: asked probably the further away I'm I'm looking at home ownership, 41 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: and we can kind of start there. Because you are 42 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: in real estate. But I also want to lean into 43 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: the fact that at this moment of me amassing this well, 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: I do feel as though this is the absolute worst 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: time to be a home like a home buyer, to 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: buy a home with the interest rates with where we're at. 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: I could also just keep saying I'm waiting for the 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: bubble to burst like eight But will it ever come? 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, Or will I have the money by 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: the time that bubble burst? I don't know. So welcome 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: ish Based on that opening statement in our many conversations, 52 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: do you call bullshit on anything I said? Or disagree 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: eighty and you you disagree with eighty percent? 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: I disagree with your stance is always on home ownership, 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: especially from a financial standpoint. I think that we've been 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: lied to so much. I think we got to put 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: Google down. I think we need to do our own 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: research and a bunch of this shit. 59 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: Where do you want to start? We could, we could, we. 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: Could, Oh you want you? We just want to? 61 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: I think, Okay, so. 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: We'll start ownership and then we'll get into all. 63 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: The other stair home Ownership is more expensive than renting. 64 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: Yes, you live in Manhattan, live in New York. 65 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, not anymore. I live in Atlanta, Georgia. 66 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: Oh cool, stay in Atlanta. Okay, a one bedroom apartment 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: in downtown Atlanta as well. 68 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean a good twenty more than No. If you 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: want to high rise, it might be, but a one 70 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: bedroom is not. I was looking at two bedrooms, and 71 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I was easily finding anything between twenty. 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: Eight to four thousand, thirty five hundred. 73 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: We're going we can go ahead thirty five thirty ft. 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: That rent increases that roughly five percent a year. 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: Okay, Right, you can go buy a home for twenty 76 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars a month. You're gonna get all the 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: tax benefits from the home on the right offs. Especially 78 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: when people start making money. You need as many white 79 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: offfs as you possibly can get. Well, rental, you don't 80 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: get right offs. What home ownership? 81 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean you if you so as as a renter, 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: and I will say, and also someone who is really 83 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: knowledgeable regarding the tax code. If I am renting and 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: I am an entrepreneur or business owner, as long as 85 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: there is a door on the room, I can absolutely 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: write off portion of abortion of my ranch as an 87 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: office space. So yes, I can get a deduction for 88 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: when I'm paying. 89 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: You're gonna try to play a game? Cool? 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: No, say hey, I think we should. 91 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: Okay, jay Z and Beyonce just bot ae hundred million 92 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: dollar house in California. Okay, they can now go borrow 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: ninety million dollars back off of that house purchase. They 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: are now not getting taxed one hundred million dollars worth 95 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: of income that they made. 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: Do you know what the taxes. 97 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: Would have been on one hundred million dollars borrow income? 98 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: Borrow money is not taxable. 99 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: So now I just got ninety million dollars of my 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: money back that I'm not going to pay taxes on 101 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: at all. The closing cost of this, this to this 102 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: is all going to be a tax deduction. They could 103 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: use that shit Damnar as a vacation home. 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I get that. I think that's my thing. 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: And doing the extremes of even bringing in a Beyonce 106 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: and jay z and one hundred million dollar home, I. 107 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: Went as high as I possibly. 108 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: I get that about the reality and maybe majority of 109 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: either single men and single women or people within their 110 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: thirties realistically. We also had a conversation about the median 111 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: income and average income of an American being fifty thousand dollars, 112 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: I think that's the that's the reality that's setting in. 113 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: Hold on, that's the reality that's setting in for me. 114 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: And looking at homes that literally four years ago were 115 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: half of what they're going for now, and then being 116 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: in a place where interest rates are anywhere between five 117 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: and seven. So to see interest rates that I to 118 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: know that the mortgage that we're talking about to be 119 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: this low is on a thirty year mortgage. So say 120 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I buy a five hundred thousand dollars home, after the 121 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: interest that goes onto that, I really ended up spending 122 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: maybe eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars on it, maybe 123 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: more than that. And again, being an owner of a studio, 124 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: we don't sit here and think about all of the 125 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: things that if a storm comes and a roof needs 126 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: to be done, that's on me. If something breaks, that's 127 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: on me. Let's be very clear. I grew up in 128 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: a family as well, in a family where if the 129 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: alternative blue, we were always one emergency away from not 130 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: having everything else and being completely behind, which is the 131 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: reality of where we're at in this economy right now. 132 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: And so even though yes, my money is well off 133 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: and in a place where I feel financially secure. Home 134 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: ownership to me looks not as promising as maybe it 135 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: did back in the day. For people. Yes, yes, you're talk. 136 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: Are we going to talk about normal people? 137 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: Then you can't bring in I could shut the door 138 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 2: on right off my studio if you're gonna talk about 139 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: normal people, because normal people don't have a small business 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: where they can use that tax advantage. If we're gonna 141 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: keep it apples and apples, keeping apples and apples. You 142 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: just said four years ago, you could have bought a 143 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: house four years ago in twenty twenty for three hundred 144 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: grand that is now selling for six hundred grand. 145 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: Where's the benefit in that? 146 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: From the rental perspective, there's not one, because rents are going. 147 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: Up every single year. 148 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: That man that bought that house for three hundred grand, 149 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: his mortgage is staying the same. 150 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: He's not getting rental increases every year. 151 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: And to your other point, when the roof blow off, 152 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: nigga got insurance for that, They're gonna come put a 153 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: brand new roof on my shit, which is gonna push 154 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: my value up even more. And again, the tax benefits 155 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: that came along for the last four years of that rental, 156 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: I mean of that home you didn't get as a renter. 157 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: So in ten years, that thirty five hundred dollars apartment 158 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: is now fifty five hundred, and the. 159 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: Way we're going it might be six or seven grand. 160 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: So would you so then your advice right now would 161 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: be then, in this current me, in this market, would 162 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: you give the advice for someone to purchase absolutely. 163 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: As opposed to renting. Absolutely. 164 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: What's gonna happen is in my opinion, because it's all 165 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: of my opinion. Even when the interest rates go low, 166 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: house price is gonna rise. It's an inverse relationship. So 167 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: let's say Mandy's looking for a house. Mandy can spend 168 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: five grand a month. That's what she can spend per month. 169 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: So now under existing six percent interest you can only 170 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: afford a four hundred and fifty thousand dollar I'm making 171 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: these numbers up. You go four four to fifty cool 172 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: when the interest rates dropped to two percent, No, you're 173 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: gonna now be looking for a seven hundred thousand dollars 174 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: house because your bottom line is the same of what 175 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: you can spend per month. That doesn't change. Now you 176 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: could just get a bigger house or a better house 177 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: because the interest rates fail, it's still the same buying power, 178 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: you just getting a bigger house at your top dollar point. 179 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: I also just think the reality is the responsibility for us, 180 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: and that's the point. 181 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 4: But what I have a question too, is because she's saying, 182 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: because her phrase was, it's cheaper to rent versus homeowner homeownership, 183 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: and you're talking about the expensive but also a lot 184 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 4: of people talk about the down payment. 185 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: Because it don't make anything can happen. 186 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 4: But to get to the point where you're saying, what 187 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: the advantages, you also have to have the front Is 188 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: that the thing that makes it cheaper. 189 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: It's the upfront money, it's the closing costs, it's the renovations. 190 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: And then it is having the credit, which a lot 191 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: of people do not because unfortunately we are not taught 192 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: credit back. You know, back to my thoughts on financial literacy, 193 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: you have to have good enough credit in sustainable w two, 194 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: like you have to have proof of income for the 195 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: last two years. There are a lot of people over 196 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: the last couple of years who have been laid off 197 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: that don't have constant income coming in. I think that 198 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: that's the problem with me talking to a lot of 199 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: my friends. 200 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm keeping apples to apples. Yes, so let's keep it 201 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: apples to apples. If you're talking about apples to apples. 202 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: And we brought up Manhattan, we brought up Atlanta, Yo. 203 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: To move into a house apartment in Manhattan, you gotta 204 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: come out of pocket with fits a short You can 205 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: go get a house with three percent down. 206 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: Faha. 207 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: There are other programs where you don't have to pull 208 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: a dime out of your pocket now, because if you 209 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: have bad credentials, whether you are lacking capital, whether you 210 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 2: are lacking credit, there are things that we have to 211 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: do to now circumvent those things that are available with 212 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 2: the click of some buttons. Fam us in our community, 213 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna speak for our community because I'm not 214 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: overwhelmingly knowledgeable on other communities. We got to stop making 215 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: excuses for our shortcomings and do the shit that we 216 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: do for stuff that we want. Everybody got rolexes, niggas, 217 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: got Benz's niggas. Go find Balenciaga money. If you can 218 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: find Balenciaga money, you can find down payment money. 219 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't like you calling out my jewelry, my Fannie pack. 220 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: I wasn't even talking to you. Okay, I don't even know. 221 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is those are things that we 222 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: prioritize in our communities and we see it every fucking day. 223 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: Is it due to the lack of financial literacy. 224 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: Yes, But I don't think financial literacy is just something 225 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: that's being taught nowhere in the world. 226 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: I think that financial liwhere. 227 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: I think financial literacy is being taught by people that 228 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: are financial literary literate. 229 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: Pardon me. 230 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: I don't think that it's just this over abundance of 231 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: financially literate people in the United States with regardless to color. 232 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: Most Americans are broke. And that's regardless of color. We 233 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: could pull up the stats. It's just like white people 234 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 2: are just getting taught financial literacy in their schools. Know 235 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: the fuck they not because they broke. So my thing 236 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: is it's up to us. Niggas spend two and three 237 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 2: and four hours a day on a gram right on 238 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: my Instagram algorithms, I said seven to eight hours. 239 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: But on my Instagram algorithms, I follow all of the 240 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: real estate niggas. 241 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: I follow the bad bitches too, but I follow the 242 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: real estate niggas, so they keep feeding shit to my 243 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: algorithms of young black kids, especially in the land that 244 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: these kids are killing them telling you, yo, with this program, 245 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: you don't have to put no money down. It's a 246 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: new program. A girl tells you, yo, you could go 247 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: take this specific loan. They'll give you the loan. Once 248 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: you get the loan in nine days, that's your down 249 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: payment now for your home. So if you really wanted 250 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: to earn a learn a parton me, if you really 251 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: wanted to acquire real estate, you'll do the math that 252 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: it takes in which to acquire real estate, the same 253 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: way we do when we don't have no credit and 254 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: we pop up with the A S class niggas find 255 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: out what it takes to get these things done. 256 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: It's the law of attraction. Family. Whatever you're thinking about 257 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: a lot, it's going to come to you. 258 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 259 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 2: And so I think that we make excuses for why 260 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: we don't want to do these things while were not 261 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: doing these things. It's not cheaper the rent, I'm telling 262 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: you right now, it's not cheaper the rent. Maybe in 263 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: the short term, but over a ten year spend. Look 264 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: at the money that the renters are spending, and look 265 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 2: at the money that the homeowners are spending. The homeowners 266 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: are happy as fuck that they bought these houses ten 267 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: years ago. 268 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: I get the ten years ago. I'm still talking about 269 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: buying in today's market as well though, any. 270 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: Market, in any market. Yo. 271 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: The interest rates are a thing that they use to 272 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: trick you to stay away from buying houses. 273 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: People's buying housing and interest rates with eighteen people. 274 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: Go ahead, go on that, go down on that. 275 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: Okay. What you can afford is what you can afford. 276 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: Yes, If I know I can only afford three grand 277 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: a month or grand a month with the current interest rates, 278 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the numbers and say this is my 279 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: highest buying point. If it's three hundred thousand, I'm looking 280 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: for houses in that buying point. 281 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: Okay. 282 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: The interest rates are it don't matter because once you 283 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: run your numbers, you run your. 284 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: Numbers, just like if he was buying a car, Just 285 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: like if he. 286 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: Was buying a car, or a pocketbook or any other 287 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: big ticket item. 288 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: Yo. 289 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: If I can't buy a twenty thousand dollars burkin, I'm 290 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and buy the six thousand dollars, Shanail. 291 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: It's no difference. You get what I'm saying. 292 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: So when when we use these things in these tricky 293 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: terms to kind of dissuade us from doing some shit. 294 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: And then the benefit is if the interest rates ever 295 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: do drop, I got my same house that's worth more 296 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: money than when I bought it. Now I'm a refinance 297 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: and get the two percent interest rate, so now my 298 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: mortgage drops even lower. So now it's win win win 299 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: across the board. Okay, you can't leave an apartment to 300 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: your kids. We want to talk about black wealth, and 301 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: it's a good transition, right, we want to talk about 302 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: black well even that, and I love that you even 303 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: say that with the leaving the house to children again 304 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: without financial literacy, which we are saying is not being taught. 305 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: You leaving a home to a financially illiterate child literally 306 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: creates a liability for them, not the asset. 307 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: That's not true. 308 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: Do you know how many people like that I know 309 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: had homes within their family and when it came down 310 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: to them having to either keep it or they got 311 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: rid of it for whatever, didn't know how to, just 312 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: needed to get rid of it to have any level 313 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: of money because it became well because then if they kept. 314 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: Up with it, what if you put protections on by 315 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: way of trust. 316 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: It don't even matter by way of a trust. You 317 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: sold it. You ain't know what to do. 318 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: You sold it it was worth a half a mil 319 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: a Nigga sweet talked to you, and you got it 320 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: for three hundred grand. You sold it for three hundred. 321 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: You got beat for two hundred. Tell me what you 322 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: make three hundred thousand dollars off of rental? 323 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: It's not an asset. Have you died written some shit? 324 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: Would you make any money off the rental? No? 325 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: But then I guess that comes back to me. I 326 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: ain't got nobody to leave shit too. 327 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: My point is this, you can leave our shit to 328 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: your god kids, You could leave it to your school, 329 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: You can leave it to whomever the fuck you want 330 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: to leave it to. We start talking about the disparities 331 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: between black wealth and white wealth, Right, two of the 332 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: main things that from my summation, that create this. 333 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: Big ass divide one is homeowner shit. 334 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Okay, and we know redlining and all the bullshit that 335 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: they did back in the day. 336 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: Made that gap wider, right, But also life insurance. 337 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: So when you start talking about these two things, it 338 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: could be we watch fucking all these shows on TV. 339 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: They'd be like, oh, Yeah, here comes Karen. What do 340 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: you do? 341 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm a home ch teacher at a high school. 342 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: And here comes Jim. Jim, what do you do? All 343 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: a part time staff accountant? 344 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 345 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: What's your budget? One point seven? You like, what the fuck? 346 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: Where did you get this amount of money from? My 347 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: father died in twenty nineteen? Right, my father left me 348 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: a house in twenty nineteen. 349 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: The house was damn near paid off. 350 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: It was like fifteen grand left or some shit like that. Right, boom, 351 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: it's a true story. I took the fifteen grand. I 352 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: paid the house off. So the house is only clear 353 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: at that point it was worth two forty This was 354 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. The same exact property is now worth three 355 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty thousand dollars. I didn't touch it. I 356 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: didn't do shit to it. It's worth three to eighty. 357 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: That's one hundred and forty thousand dollars net worth jump 358 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: for me. Right, I didn't do it. I ain't have 359 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: to know what I was doing. You understand what I'm saying. 360 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: So these be some of the shit that we used 361 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: to dissuade ourselves from moving forward, Like we put the 362 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: negative out there as a roadblock. And I think that 363 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: that we do ourselves a disservice in that. So my 364 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: father left me some insurance money. My father, So even 365 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: if I didn't have the money to pay it off, 366 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: the money that he left me in a life insurance policy, 367 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: I could have paid off the house for. 368 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: Me and my mom and we would have been fine. 369 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: So do you then, I do want to lean into 370 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: what generational wealth with that? Right? Would you say that 371 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: our community is hindered by seeing that because we're not 372 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: homeowners or getting life insurance, those two things could create 373 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: both generate You think those two things by themselves simultaneously 374 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: they are. 375 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: Very big, very very big catalysts in that conversation. 376 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 3: They are very huge. Listen, if a mother and father. 377 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: So let's just we're gonna put redlining in it so 378 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: I can make it real big. In New Jersey, there 379 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: are communities where they are predominantly white communities. Right, New 380 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: Jersey is one of the most expensive states in the country. 381 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: So let's say back back and everybody's familiar with because 382 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: it's regional. Well, I'm gonna just throw a city out 383 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: so any of y'all could google Edgewater in New Jersey. Okay, Okay, 384 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: twenty years ago in Edgewater, New Jersey, you could have 385 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: bought a house for little is nothing. Today those houses 386 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: are three and four and five million dollars. So let's 387 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: just say a family bought one of those houses in 388 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: the early eighties. They passed away, they got two kids. 389 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: They now, the kids don't know what the fuck they're doing. 390 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: Like I said, we're gonna use some example. They getting robbed, 391 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: They sell the house for two million dollars. Sally got 392 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: a million dollar wealth jump, Johnny million dollar wealth jump. 393 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 3: They don't know what they're doing. 394 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 2: They networth just went up by a million dollars apiece, 395 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: that's off the house sale. 396 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: Right. 397 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: Let's say the mother had five hundred thousand dollars insurance policy, 398 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: the father had a five hundred thousand dollars insurance policy. 399 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: They also just got an additional five hundred thousand dollars. 400 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: She teaches Jim, he don't do he don't have he 401 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: mta guy. I'm I don't want shit on him. 402 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 3: He has. 403 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: They made a decent job. 404 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: He has a decent job. 405 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying it's not an overwhelmingly you know, a high 406 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: paying job. 407 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: It's a good job. 408 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: What I'm telling you though, is their lives have now 409 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: been transformed by one point five million dollars each and 410 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: they don't know what the fuck they're doing. 411 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: And just imagine even thee even if they get beat. 412 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: So imagine if they know what they're doing. 413 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: Now, if I say, yo, nope, I'm not selling that house, 414 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull a line of credit on that house, 415 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go buy three more houses with that 416 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: two million dollars. 417 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go buy four more houses. That's the best 418 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: case scenario. 419 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: We talk about worst case scenario, each one of them 420 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: still just got a one point five million dollar wealth 421 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 2: jump in their network. 422 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Well, but I think that goes back to what we 423 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: were saying as well, the education to know what to 424 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: do with it, which is why are we gonna use 425 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: that as a But it's so, then let me ask you, 426 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: because I know we agree, why do you not think 427 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: our community deserves reparations? Because to to what you're even saying, though, 428 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: receiving those amounts of wealth one point whatever, whatever the 429 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: money you're giving, right, let's let's lean into reparations. Then 430 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: you get that money, you don't know what to do 431 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: with it? What type of generational wealth happens if it 432 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: stops there because you're not educated on what to do 433 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: with it. So my question to you is, why then 434 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: are you against our community seeing reparation. 435 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 3: It's layered, Okay, so tell me to layers. I think 436 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: that one. 437 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: One for them to give every black person in the 438 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 2: United States reparations, it'll cripple the financial system in America. 439 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: That's okay. 440 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: We're talking from a technical standpoint, not an emotional standpoint. 441 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question on that during the pandemic, 442 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: damn near the entire country got whatever that twelve hundred 443 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: dollars check, the one that people still excited about. Right, 444 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: Black people only make up thirteen percent of the country. 445 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: If we were able to during the pandemic get all 446 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: of these people, mind you, multiple people in households as well. 447 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: As long as you were over a certain age and 448 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: had a job, you my sister got it, and my 449 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: mom got it, am I and they were all under 450 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: the same If you were a working citizen, you got 451 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: that twelve hundred dollars stimulus check, and then unemployment somehow 452 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: was also able to tax on an additional six hundred 453 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: dollars a week to those people who were unemployed during 454 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: the pandemic. How do you reckon that thirteen percent of 455 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: the country receiving reparations would cripple a country that was 456 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: able to give out air quotes if you're watching this 457 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: much money and not cripple essentially, And it didn't cripple us, 458 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: because let's be very clear, we're still sending money to Ukraine. 459 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: We send them money to them niggas over there and 460 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: these niggas over everybody else getting money except for here. 461 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: So I would like to know. 462 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: That answer one, They ain't give a shit. 463 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: That's number one. Number two, and we're paying for it 464 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: right now. As you can say, the economy right now 465 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: is in a shitter. We are paying that money back. 466 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: You think they gave something, but America gave somebody something. 467 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: We're paying for it right now. And dog people don't understand. 468 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: They even that was a tax. You had to pay 469 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: that on your taxes. That was income that you had 470 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: to claim on your taxes. That twelve hundred dollars was income. 471 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: That wasn't a free gift. 472 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: No, I know, it wasn't a free so you didn't 473 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: get no money from the gun. 474 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: If you had to claim that money is income and 475 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: pay taxes on it. It was, it was they loaned 476 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: you some money, and you now gotta paying. 477 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Just become income. Just because income is tax doesn't make 478 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: it a loan. We work jobs and pay taxes on it. 479 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't make our What. 480 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying is they fronted you twelve hundred dollars, right, 481 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: that money is now being made up in the economy. Right, 482 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: those things they gave you money. What they do is 483 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: give you money to so you can spend more money. 484 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: Because the more money you spend. 485 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: It makes its circular's circular. 486 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: Right, So now you're getting free money. You're gonna go 487 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: buy crab legs. And now all here we wake it up, 488 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: Wake it up. 489 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: We're gonna go by. 490 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: No, look, we're gonna go buy crab legs. Right, so 491 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: now all the crab legs going bro. This is a 492 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: cycle and the most simplistic of turn you've seen it. 493 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: So now we gotta pay these niggas extra money to 494 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: go be on the boats to get more crabs that 495 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: the crab is selling out. We got And now we 496 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 2: be bitching about inflation and ship like that. All of 497 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: those things lend to inflation. 498 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 4: So you're and you're saying reparations would overstimulate the economy 499 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: to the point that. 500 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 3: Could potentially overstimulate the economy. 501 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I just I just think 502 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: that based on where we are as a demo and 503 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: as a people, we wouldn't do positive ship with the 504 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: money anyway. Most of us, my nigga, we are riding 505 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: around blaming whites and blaming the educational system for us 506 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: having a lack of financial literacy. 507 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: Dog, you've touched seven figures for a long time now. 508 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: If you don't know how to buy a house, now, 509 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: if you don't know how to invest your money. 510 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: Now, whoa like? 511 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry? 512 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: Look if you don't know how to do those things 513 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: because you did not apply yourself. 514 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: To learn those things. You know what I'm saying. We 515 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: are not prioritizing shit. We prioritizing material shit. 516 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 2: We're prioritizing cars, were prioritizing chains, were prioritizing watches, We're 517 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 2: prioritizing bags, We're prioritizing shoes and all of this bullshit 518 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: material stuff that does not build wealth. 519 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: We are addicted with shit that don't build wealth. 520 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: I guess I have and maybe I want to add 521 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: because I do feel like I speak for some of 522 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: the people, especially ones who don't care what the fuck happens, 523 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: like Nigga I fly planes. If I could do a PJ, 524 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: I would I think that the idea that we have 525 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: to live this life to what's here after we're gone. 526 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: I guess maybe I don't live that way. I am 527 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: going to spend my money now and enjoy it now, 528 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: because again, I don't plan to have children. I don't like. 529 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't plan to see when all of the icebergs 530 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: melt and everything gets flooded, and now the day after 531 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: tomorrow's happened, because I don't want to outlive that. I 532 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: don't want to run out run the zombies. I am fine. 533 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: That's why I got my vaccine shot. If it turns 534 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: me into a zombie, fine, I don't like. I think 535 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: the idea too, that we live in this this place 536 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: where we have to also be in scarcity for what 537 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: we leave behind is just not the way that I exist. 538 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 3: It's not even what you leave behind. But your point 539 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: is granted. Cool. You can say, dog, I'm getting fat. 540 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: But I love sweets, okay. 541 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 3: And I'm okay with that. 542 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: I'm accepting what comes along with eating a dozen donuts 543 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: every day. You now can't bitch though, and say, yo, 544 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: they not giving us literacy on what it takes to 545 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 2: maintain physical health. 546 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: The two things are contradictory. 547 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: Hey, when you get into these analogies, because I'm really 548 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: trying to, I don't think we were ready for the health. 549 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeahs. 550 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying is we can't bitch about 551 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: being in a certain financial position if we are not 552 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: doing the things to put ourselves in better financial positions. 553 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: If you want to party in bullshit and be on 554 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: a PJ and go rock out, catch a cab across 555 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: the street, do your thing, but you now can't bitch 556 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: about not having no money. And Sam, be clear, niggas 557 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: be balling in their thirties and forties. Your fifties is coming. 558 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm knocking on the door right now. Your fifties is coming. 559 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: I was standing on couches in Greenhouse. It seemed like yesterday, 560 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: and fam niggas was spending three and four and five 561 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: thousand dollars at ninety six and seven thousand dollars a week, 562 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: eight ten thousand dollars a week on liquor. 563 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: I told you the fact that the millionaires that were 564 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: I was partying with and flying out to to see that. 565 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: They all saying here trying to make money with the 566 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: podcast coins that I do like. It's interesting because, yeah, 567 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: you're right, bring athletes, athletes. 568 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: Have all touched a lot of aunt money they have. 569 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: You're right and bro, and now these dudes are no 570 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: disrespect to anybody, I promise you, and talking about I'm 571 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 2: not disrespecting nobody. A lot of athletes that have touched 572 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 2: five and ten and twenty million dollars in their lifetime, 573 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: they now are making forty seven thousand dollars a year 574 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: a teaching physics at a local high school and being 575 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: a football coach. 576 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: That is not as that is very particularly. 577 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: I'm not nothing wrong with it. No, I don't know nobody, 578 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm not it's nothing wrong with that. What I'm saying 579 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: is if they would have gotten educational, got took priority 580 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: in getting education on how to spend and manage and 581 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: protect that money, they wouldn't they was. 582 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: The question question Because we had this conversation and I 583 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: want to get into it. So speaking of athletes that 584 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: do that, right, I want to bring up Lebron who 585 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: is a billionaire at this point, and where Ish and 586 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: I both believe that people should be able to work 587 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: as hard as they fucking want and become billionaires. I 588 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: am for billionaires existing, Jason is not king. What is 589 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: your your take on billionaires? Do you do you believe 590 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: that it's okay for us to have billionaires. 591 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: Not the sidew long I. 592 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: Think, I think perfect. The short answer is I think 593 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: is yes. But the way this ship is set up, 594 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: I don't see how fundamentally it can be done. As 595 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: we were talking off off, you know, early on, with 596 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: good practice. 597 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: So can I ask Lebron James, then is that example? 598 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: Because we talked about. 599 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: Athlete Lebron endorsement Lebron. 600 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: So as that billionaire right who we know came from Akron, Ohio, 601 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: who we saw used his strengths as an athlete but 602 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: also educated himself to get to amass the wealthy as 603 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: outside of sports, because it's been all of these other 604 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: businesses too. If we were talking about and I know 605 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 1: Mouse just left, So we talked about the ethics of it, 606 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: which are you guys against this little black boy from Akron, 607 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: Ohio being a billionaire? 608 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: Do you know what? No? 609 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: Because as you mentioned that, I think about Antoine Walker, 610 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 2: his story and he blew all his fu off, all 611 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: his money and gambling. 612 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: Yea, I think over one. 613 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: Hundred and undred something million dollars and he has nothing 614 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: to show for it. And I also think about when 615 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: you think about Lebron, you think about Rich Paul, you 616 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: think about he's in a circle. Even if he didn't 617 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: know they helped him, I'm assuming they contributed to the 618 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: education of Yo. You need to put money here and 619 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: put money there and whatever the case may be. 620 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: So no, I think that there's a place for it. 621 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: So you just changed your mind. So your first game. 622 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: Remember, but. 623 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: He's also saying athlete. 624 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: Because he's an athlete, right, I'm saying ye, because of 625 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: the lack of education. 626 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: No, I mean I'm saying lack of education, lack of 627 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: pursuit of the education because it's there right especially now 628 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: now in these days. You can't compare Lebron to you 629 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: KNOWLS in Brownsville. 630 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: Why because exceptionist, he's exception to what he uses to. 631 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: Lebron is ten thousand steps ahead of that because of 632 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: his right now gifts. 633 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: Because like you said, you can smade listen to this 634 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: as Charles climbs that social letter. 635 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, when Charles went from five hundred thousand to a million. 636 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: You are in different rooms. 637 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: Education comes along in those rooms, alliances come along in 638 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: those rooms. You don't go from ten million dollars to 639 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: a billion dollars without some education, without meeting some motherfuckers, 640 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: without doing some deals, without talking, without educating yourself. Rihanna 641 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: couldn't go from Rihanna of Umbrella to finy Rihanna. You 642 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: would have threw her in that fenty office. She would 643 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: have fucking crumbled. No, it was steps along that way 644 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: and the steps that come along with everybody's growth. There's 645 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: a level of ascension and that comes in a trajectory 646 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: that's on an upward slope that gets education at every 647 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: step you go up, it's more education. 648 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: So you know Lebron, James mav Carter. 649 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: But also than Jason. No, but on this conversation, do 650 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: you change your sense? Then? 651 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: No, I don't change my SATs. But I think, I 652 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: think what we're saying with the comparisons, because again we're 653 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 4: referencing a lot of apples and apples and and we're 654 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 4: mixing kind of metaphors. But this idea like so Lebron right, 655 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 4: like Lebron is an exception and so but the money 656 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 4: he's making also grants him to different rooms, different people. 657 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: They did get educated himself. So then when we're talking 658 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 4: about the idea of repretations, right, like, would that not 659 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: grant a community the same opportunities because now they're making 660 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 4: more money. To your point the phrasing you use, they've 661 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 4: raised their income level. 662 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 2: Right. 663 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 4: Even if you get beat, you still raise your income level. 664 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: Right. 665 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: So even if you have people who you say or man, 666 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 4: do you two, they don't know what to do with 667 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 4: the money, right, But you now have the money, You've 668 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 4: raised your income level. Right, So now you have opportunities 669 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: to go seek financial advisors. No, you maybe not how 670 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: to do before. 671 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: Go buy out all the crab legs in the ground. 672 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 4: Sure, but these are also but those are also a 673 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 4: wide assumptions that fit your right. So I can also say, 674 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 4: now with this money, it's changed their life, right because 675 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: because again you're saying, if you have ten thousand dollars, 676 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 4: that projects you to make this much money. To make 677 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 4: this money, because it gives you opportunities and you enter 678 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: different spaces. 679 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: You didn't earn it, So. 680 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: That earned money and money given are treated differently. Sure, 681 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: your kids don't look at money the way you look 682 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: at money with him, it's a very I that's my 683 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: don't let's wait wait, wait, let me finish. 684 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: So the educational. 685 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: Piece, I said, that's Cuddy off Air by the way, 686 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: hanging out, hanging out with us. 687 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: No, the educational piece that he speaks of when you're 688 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: trying to earn more money. And I walked in this 689 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: room and they introduced me to Blah blah blah and 690 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: were running this deal by him. You getting an education 691 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: in that, because that education is vital to earn that 692 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: other money. When you get given money people when niggas 693 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: hit the lotto, Google the percentage of people that hit 694 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: the lotto from where they are the day before and 695 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: to where they are now. It's an example, Yo, you 696 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: run through that money because it's not earned. Right, So 697 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: I think that that But if. 698 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: You get an inheritance, isn't that the same thing? But 699 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 4: I don't think sometimes also, but sometimes keyword is sometimes no, 700 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: because guess what you said. Sometimes I know if Bill. 701 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: Gates was my dad, education came in that. 702 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, sureation. But that's also that's also very like max exam. 703 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 4: You can use these mass examples. The guy whose father 704 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: is an accountant and he leaves him and he leaves 705 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 4: on something carpenter. 706 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: Look me, I never nobody ever taught me construction. My 707 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: uncle was a plumber and a contractor. Me in the summertimes, 708 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: having to go there, I adopted some of that. So 709 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: when I got introduced to home renovation, it wasn't foreign 710 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: to me. I took to it for like a fish 711 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: to water. That was an education and living in that 712 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: household with my uncle. 713 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: Right. So if you look up the history of. 714 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 2: It's not the Rockefellers, it's one of the other rich 715 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: families I forgot. 716 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: Which is still still family. 717 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: One of no. One of the families, the Kennedy's. When 718 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: they were young, they got allowance. They got an allowance, 719 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: and what they had to do with that allowance was 720 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 2: keep a detailed book of their allowance. They had to 721 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: give away ten percent, they had to save ten percent 722 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: the other eighty percent. If they bought bubblegum with it, 723 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: if they bought transformers with it, they. 724 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: Had to account for it and how you just allocated 725 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: your bread. 726 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: Those lessons some of the brothers attributed to their successes today. 727 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 2: So that education that they got, even at a small age, 728 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: showed them how to balance books. 729 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 4: That's still money that they were giving annance outside of. 730 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 2: The education showed them how to take care of the. 731 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: I want to go back to. Clearly a king couldn't 732 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: stand on his point too much. He folded really quickly, 733 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: So I want to go back. 734 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 3: I don't look at it like a full. 735 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't think people should get monetary reparations because I 736 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: don't think there's a value of number that you can 737 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: equate to what happened to our ancestors. The reparations should 738 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: come in form of land. 739 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: That's just my take. 740 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: I want to ask, no matter, no matter if you 741 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: earn it and work for it, or if it was 742 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: given to you, why do you not believe that billionaires 743 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: should exist? 744 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: I think my problem with the idea of and again 745 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 4: I'm pro for entrepreneurialism. People making money is great, that's 746 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 4: all that. So I think sometimes people don't understand just 747 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 4: to share difference between a million dollars and a billion 748 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 4: dollars a huge, huge, huge difference, right, And it's like 749 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 4: that joke where it's like, uh, you know, athletes are rich, 750 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 4: but the owners of the team are wealthy. Because the 751 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 4: grand scale of what's happening in the difference, it's just tremendous, right, 752 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 4: and so the idea to attain the money, that's a billionaire. 753 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 4: And I'll even come back to sports with the point 754 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 4: to land it. It's people who are billionaires. It's not 755 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: like they And again everything we're saying is generalizations, right, 756 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 4: because how Lebron earns his billions much different than you know, 757 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 4: the examples of people I'm talking about, right, And so 758 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 4: Elon is a good one too, right, Like Elon inherited 759 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 4: wealth from his father, right, or Trump inherited weal from 760 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 4: their father. So now they're starting on third base, right. 761 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 4: And so then it's not that they're like great businessmen, right, 762 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 4: it's through this idea of policy failures and lobbied regulation 763 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: that benefits them or lobbied deregulation that benefits them, earned 764 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 4: this amount of wealth and then also using laphole loopholes 765 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 4: and a tax code. 766 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 5: Right. 767 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 4: So so so now so now they're doing all this 768 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 4: with the idea of that they're they've mastered the free market. 769 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 4: But anyway, my problem is it's not it's not like 770 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 4: I have a problem with an individual billionaire. I think 771 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 4: a billionaire is a it is a symptom to a 772 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 4: larger ailment, which is sort of this idea of the 773 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 4: free market not actually being free. So it's not like 774 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 4: if somebody has a billion, to issues point that he 775 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 4: made earlier, whether it was off air or on, if 776 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 4: somebody has nine hundred ninety nine million, I'm not going 777 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 4: to be like, yo, we'll just stop, you know what 778 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 4: I mean. But it's this idea of this system that's 779 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 4: predicated on things that may be a moral like Mouse 780 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 4: was saying off air, But also it's just not this 781 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 4: idea that they've mastered the free market, because it's not free, right, 782 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 4: and then the land it right. And then you have 783 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 4: billionaires who often buy at that they buy teams, right, 784 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: they buy teams, and then suddenly they turn socialists because 785 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 4: they want cap they want money from the TV to 786 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 4: be spread back. In this they have like the team 787 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: like the Redskins, right, who has this billionaire owner previously 788 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 4: but he didn't spend any money, wanted to have money 789 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 4: come back to him for not spending money, and so 790 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 4: essentially he wanted ecadomic welfare. Right, But he puts his 791 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 4: chest out like on this titan of business who's mastered 792 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 4: the system. But when he runs his team and he 793 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 4: has to do it. Without the help of these loopholes, 794 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 4: he can't do it, and now he becomes a socialist. 795 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: I just I just hate that. I ain't gonna hold you. 796 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: I'll be mad that we'd be so mad that people 797 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: want loopholes and people want tax breaks or people want likes. 798 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: I know when I see here and talk about like 799 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: us being mad at loopholes. We find loopholes to cheat 800 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: in our relationships, We find loopholes to cheat on tests 801 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: in school. 802 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 4: To Mouse's point, cheating is cheating. 803 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: We find less for our groceries by going and spending 804 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: time getting coupons. I don't know why in terms of 805 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: a billionaire, it's the only time in which we're like, 806 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: they're unethical, awful people. 807 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 5: For wanting loopholes or not wanting to But I'm not 808 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 5: saying when I say awful people. 809 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: But a lot of people say that there's no way 810 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: to becoming No, that is a lot of people's argument 811 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: is that there's no way to become a billionaire as 812 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: an ethical, big person, like basically the people. It's a 813 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of people that the insinuation 814 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: is that to be to have become a billionaire, you 815 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: had to ship on people on your way there. You 816 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: had to do bad business practices to get there. And 817 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: so the problem is, well, if you were a better person, 818 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: you would distribute that wealth more to the people in 819 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: need to where then you wouldn't. 820 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 4: Be not necessary in need and better practice. Mouse is saying, 821 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 4: so listen. 822 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 3: To this, and mouse is wrong, and mouse saying here, listen. 823 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 1: You don't want to hear more, go to the Patreon Take. 824 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 3: This, yo. The market is the market, right? One person 825 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 3: doesn't set a market, sure. 826 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 4: Okay, But but also saying the market of the market 827 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 4: is a wild generalization that's going to help your point. 828 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 4: Let me because because it ignores what the systems are 829 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 4: towards the market. That's like me saying, like yo, a 830 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 4: relationships of relationships, people are gonna cheat. Right, that's a 831 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 4: broad station, I know. But your examples already gonna be 832 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 4: fault because you're you're excusing the system as it exists. 833 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: You are saying the market and the market that's the 834 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 4: default of what it is. 835 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 3: Listen to this. The market is the market. Right. 836 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 2: So if I own Walmart and the greeter that greets 837 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: the people when you walk in the door because Walmart 838 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 2: makes a gazillion dollars, right, People's theoretical point is you 839 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 2: can afford to pay the greeter fifty dollars an hour, 840 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 2: you're paying them fifteen dollars an hour. 841 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 3: That's fucked up. 842 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 2: And what I tell people is on a macro business level, 843 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: that maintains order because Walmart can afford to pay the 844 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 2: greeter fifty dollars. 845 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 3: If they paid the greeter fifty dollars an hour, you 846 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 3: know what happened. There would be no Mom and pop 847 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: ever in the world. 848 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 4: What is the order that you're talking about maintaining. 849 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: If Walmart, because they could afford to pay everybody a 850 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 2: higher wage, paid everybody this absorbing amount of money to 851 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 2: do menial tasks, Nobody will work at the local cleaners. 852 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 2: Nobody will look at the local McDonald's. Nobody will work 853 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 2: at the local mechanic shop. Nobody will work nowhere else 854 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: because Walmart has the ability to pay these people this 855 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 2: crazy amount of money, and mister Johnson can't. 856 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 3: So mister Johnson can't get nobody to work. 857 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 4: Mister Johnson doesn't have to be an entrepreneur. He can 858 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 4: go walk up Walmart for the fair wages that you're saying, cool. 859 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 2: So now again society ceases to exist because you need 860 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 2: all of these things working in a balance. 861 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: Well, no, that's also going to say not everybody wants 862 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: to be a worker. There are people that want to create. 863 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: Like like the it's just to success to be able 864 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 4: to be a businessman. And if you can't, well, no, the. 865 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: People that are business people are not successful at all. 866 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: But I mean, but if we're talking about the pecking order, 867 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: now you have workers, and you have the. 868 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 4: Point of the order existing right where you need all 869 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 4: these other systems that you're then referring to a free 870 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 4: market being established, right because otherwise if there's a monopoly, 871 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 4: then they could do price scouting right, And so, mister 872 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 4: Johnson doesn't exist. 873 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: The example of just paying people more because. 874 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 3: You can't well, because nobody does that well. 875 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: But the reality of it is like your bottom line 876 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: may not be met. There are also you have lost prevation. 877 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 4: In this specific example we're talking about Walmart, I'm taking 878 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 4: I understand how they can know with like the ten 879 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 4: richest Americans, seven of them. 880 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: Walmart bought the trademark for June. See, y'all bitches can't 881 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: even use June teeth on the ice cream. But yeah, 882 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: they did buy juneteth ice cream. 883 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 3: You got it. 884 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: Look it up. But look at you could just say 885 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: I'm a liar without. 886 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 3: It being you could be mistaken. They don't got to 887 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 3: be a liar. 888 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: Someone from Walmart got the trademark. Keep going ahead and. 889 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 2: Say go back to what I was saying, right, Yo, 890 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 2: So listen to this. This is this is what I 891 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 2: don't like. I don't like all of these negative things 892 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: that come along with money, getting money, and we as 893 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 2: black people adopt them like more money, more problems, money, 894 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: Uh grant. 895 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 3: What's the ship? 896 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: Uh evil? 897 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 2: Some money and evil connotation like all of those things 898 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 2: that's cut in the. 899 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 3: Attach negativity the money. 900 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 2: And they taught us bullshit like that during slavery times, 901 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 2: right to make us not want to strive for better shit. 902 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 3: That's my opinion. Like, I don't buy into none of 903 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 3: that shit. Fam. 904 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: If we talked about people not having financial literacy or 905 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: not having a discipline to put their money in the 906 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 2: right place. So let's just say me and me and 907 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 2: Jay own a business. We wasn't going to the club. 908 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 2: We didn't buy rolexes. He refinanced his house. I took 909 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 2: a loan from my wife, we bust our ass, and 910 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 2: we opened the business in the garage and for five 911 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: years we ate tuna fish and peanut butter and jelly, 912 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 2: and everybody else was in the club buying rolexes and 913 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 2: benzes and shit. You mean to tell me that once 914 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 2: we get up through them sacrifices and we get to 915 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 2: Amazon level, now we got to come back and give 916 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 2: our money to the niggas that was going to the club. 917 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 2: You out your fucking mind, nigga. Well, I'm not doing 918 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 2: none of that. I'm never doing that to get back. No, 919 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: it's not that fam I sacrificed and I bust my ass, 920 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 2: and I did the things that I had to do 921 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 2: to see a level of success. And the people that 922 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: were not willing to be disciplined to do that and sacrifice, 923 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: they're not gonna get in basket my riches. 924 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm not I agree with that. 925 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 4: That's a billionaire level. So let's do this fact check though, 926 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 4: real quick. Technically both right to. 927 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 3: It's your point. 928 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 4: Nobody can own the trade bunk of town, but you 929 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 4: can't own trademarks related to Juneteenth products. 930 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,959 Speaker 3: And Walmart did that ice cream. 931 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 2: Walmart did it for a company that had the juneteenth 932 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 2: ice cream. Some black people then said they got the 933 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 2: c S and desist to Walmart because they had already 934 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 2: put in the trademark request for June teenth to the 935 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 2: us P t O. 936 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: But it was for different classes. You know. 937 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: It was like they gave fifty they did for the 938 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: ice cream. 939 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to fight. 940 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that we were both right then, but 941 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: both wrong and both right. 942 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 3: But to our point. 943 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: I just think that I think that, yo, we have 944 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 2: to collectively come together. 945 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 3: We got to work together. That's a big thing. Like 946 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 3: blacks don't not. 947 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 1: Wanting to give back. You talk in your eyes, so please, 948 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 1: I know you're talking. 949 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 2: I want to get I want to reference a book. 950 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 2: It's called The Destruction of the Black Civilization Chances Williams. 951 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 2: And one of the takeaways, if I can surmise, is 952 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 2: that he said we and I don't know when. He 953 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: don't remember off him when he published this book, but 954 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 2: let's just say it was it was late seventies. Maybe 955 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: it's white, black and red. So yes, yes, dope book 956 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 2: and had a horse. But he said, yo, look, we 957 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 2: don't have time afforded to us to keep dragging along 958 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,479 Speaker 2: people in our community to get us to this level 959 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: that we need to do as far as nation building. 960 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 2: So he wrote that, I look at the context he 961 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: wrote that twenty plus years ago, and we in twenty 962 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: twenty five right where we're talking about this thing, the 963 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,919 Speaker 2: trust or the information that we don't have the time 964 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: afforded to us. As you said, we need to come together, 965 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 2: and like we just have to pull along the people 966 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 2: who can who gets it or willing to get somewhere 967 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: to a point where we can have some trust to 968 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 2: understand about how do we get to a point of 969 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 2: financial freedom. 970 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 3: So to me, you know what I've come to discover. 971 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, some of them people be white, some of them 972 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 2: people be Asian, some of them people be Hispanic. So 973 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 2: if I'm trying to beat this ship into my I 974 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: started buying houses in two thousand and three. I went 975 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: to every one of my friends. I left this seminar green, Yo, 976 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 2: we could do this ship. They said, we could do it. Yo, 977 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 2: it's easy. 978 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 3: Boom boom. 979 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: I went to every one of my friends, every one 980 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 2: of my fucking friends, and said, Yo, they said we 981 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 2: could do it. Look, I got the books. They said, 982 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 2: you do this. Y'all looked up on Google. They said 983 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 2: you could do this, and niggas looked at me and 984 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 2: was like, nah, I'm cool. 985 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: Not only that, do you want to know what others now? 986 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 3: Cool? 987 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: Wait? Is you want to know what else? People are 988 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: are also have been talking about what is it? Shade, shade, moisture, 989 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,720 Speaker 1: what else? There's? 990 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 2: There's me all of them. 991 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: There's a ton of black owned businesses getting the backlash 992 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: for even selling their companies two white people. And it's 993 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: the same conversation. These black people are mad that they 994 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: love that they decided to. 995 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 3: Carol's daughter, all of them. 996 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: And I personally don't see the problem. 997 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 3: I lack of education. 998 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: Again, it is a lack of education because I think 999 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: that you should sell a biess. You should build a 1000 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: business enough to sell it and make your money off 1001 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: of it, create another one. I think that that is 1002 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: actually what most people do when they create a business, 1003 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: It is to sell it. It's why even as podcasters 1004 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: we talk we talked all this conversation about IP and 1005 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: why it's so goddamn important that's literally it and so 1006 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: that we can own something and be able to sell 1007 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: it when it's a massive value that can make it 1008 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: make sense. 1009 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 2: We don't examine the full case study of why these businesses. 1010 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 2: So if I go to like Bevil, Tristan Walkers, shout 1011 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: out to Tristan Walker when he came out of the 1012 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: room the clipper and the headcare product for man. He 1013 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 2: sold off the company to Johnson and Johnson, which allowed 1014 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: him to be in target. Yep, right, he still runs 1015 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: the creative But I'm. 1016 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: Not even business. 1017 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 3: Do something great? Do it again, jay Z. 1018 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 2: Jay Z owned one hundred percent of a space. Guess what, 1019 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 2: I'm not getting distribution everywhere in the world. So let's 1020 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 2: say I'm putting one thousand bottles on the shelf. They 1021 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 2: my thousand bottles. But when I go team up with 1022 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 2: LV ANDMH who Hennessy has distribution worldwide, Now I go 1023 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: from putting a thousand bottles on the shelf to ten 1024 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 2: million bottles on the shelf. So yeah, I might own 1025 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 2: one hundred percent of a thousand bottles as opposed to 1026 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 2: fifty percent of. 1027 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 3: Ten million bottles. 1028 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 2: My nigga, When you start taking some of the emotional 1029 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 2: shit out of this and start talking about what's logical 1030 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 2: and rational, these decisions are easy to. 1031 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: Say though, that that is the problem because of the 1032 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: traumas associated with our history because of us even having 1033 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 1: to discuss reparations of what we're owed. It's almost impossible 1034 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 1: a bit for our community to remove emotion out of 1035 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: actual business decisions. 1036 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 3: No, when they remove it when they start making money. 1037 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they get called mandosantus. 1038 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 3: A man agreed. 1039 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: Being a Republican, And I don't like that because I'm not. 1040 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 3: I vote. 1041 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: I voted for Kamala, I voted for Obama. You know, 1042 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 1: I voted for Biden. 1043 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 2: I think even that all of that ship, Okay, have 1044 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 2: not voted for Biden. 1045 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 1: I did vote for Obama. I don't think I voted 1046 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 1: that election. 1047 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 3: To me, all that should is divisive. 1048 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: No, I did vote for Biden. I didn't vote in 1049 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 1: the Hillary. 1050 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 3: Well, essentially, I remember growing when I was a kid. 1051 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 2: You know, when they talked politics in my house and 1052 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 2: go to my aunt's uncles or whatever. They would talk 1053 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 2: about politics, but you didn't know where they lean. It 1054 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 2: was kind of like when COVID with the vaccine stuff. Right, 1055 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 2: that's your personal business, that's hippo, right, you don't share 1056 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 2: that ship. You don't what you're supposed to share your 1057 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 2: political affiliations. Now, it was like what do I disagree 1058 00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 2: with you that shot too, Like the things that they 1059 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 2: say are taboo for us not to discuss, I think 1060 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,720 Speaker 2: should be open discussions. 1061 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I think all employees and this 1062 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: this was my thing even when I worked in corporate America. 1063 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: I hate that it's taboo to talk your salary. I 1064 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 1: think right now I'm podcasting. The reason why so many 1065 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: people don't know how to negotiate their deals is because 1066 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: a podcasters aren't being truthful about peeing with each other 1067 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: and they're all competing. They don't believe unfortunately, again a 1068 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: problem within our own community. They don't believe that there 1069 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: is enough wealth to be spread around. 1070 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 4: Or do you think do you think people have a 1071 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 4: fear of speaking because they'll either because there's traditionally there's 1072 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 4: a fear of talking about finances. Right, well, they're financially 1073 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a second. But then the 1074 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,879 Speaker 4: idea of is there a fear that if I talk 1075 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 4: about what I make, I'll get played because I undervalued myself. 1076 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 3: Yes, because you can hear to your point, if I. 1077 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 4: Did speak about it, I could find I'm. 1078 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: Not even talking about speaking of it in the masses 1079 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: to me. It's speaking with an issue, it's speaking to 1080 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: my peers. I think there's been times where me and 1081 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 1: Cuddy got hit up for the same deal and I'm like, oh, 1082 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: and she's never not shared with me what she's gotten, 1083 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: and I've seen more because she was honest, Like, girl, 1084 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: don't ask for that, you can get more than that. 1085 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: I know that. They're like and to me, that's how 1086 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: we actually build up our own community is by sharing 1087 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: what we're getting so that we can actually get what 1088 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: are what worth. And what's unfortunate about that is we're. 1089 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 3: Not doing that. 1090 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 2: Wow, it doesn't exist because Cuddy don't got to be 1091 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 2: at the top of the mountain boom in our neighborhoods. 1092 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 3: Everybody is commised. 1093 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 2: She want to be at the top, bring the top 1094 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 2: in our neighborhoods. Everybody's competing. Fact, right, somebody could have 1095 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 2: a nice car. Nigga be like, oh, yeah, that's shit, dope, 1096 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 2: but that's a twenty twenty one. I got twenty twenty four. 1097 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 2: You don't stand what I'm saying, Like, yo, if he 1098 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 2: fucked oh, I know I could fuck her. We are 1099 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,240 Speaker 2: competing in every single facet of life. So if Mandy 1100 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 2: could get twenty thousand from this place, and Cuddy got 1101 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 2: them for thirty. Cutty just a real mom uncle saying, no, 1102 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 2: get them for thirty, because I got them for thirty. 1103 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 2: Some niggas can be like the stupid bitch took twenty 1104 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 2: grand I hit them niggas for thirty. 1105 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: And that's that's unfortunately what we're seeing. 1106 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 3: That is what is going on with conversations. 1107 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: Financial literacy is one thing, but the idea that we 1108 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: genuinely as a community do not like to talk real 1109 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: about money in general. 1110 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 3: It's just it's been taught to us that it's taboo. 1111 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,959 Speaker 3: When you on the train and. 1112 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 2: You hear these two white ladies like, yeah, we sold 1113 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 2: the house for one point six. I was so upset 1114 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,800 Speaker 2: because because Nancy and them got. 1115 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 4: One nine on the trainer east side, they. 1116 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 2: Talking about, y'all, I'm mad that I got one six 1117 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 2: for the house. Yeah, they don't look at this taboo. 1118 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 2: We'll tell motherfuckers yeah uh yeah, we yeah, I ate 1119 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 2: that bitch out. Y'all ain't gonna lie my nigga Da 1120 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 2: da da da girls talking about they take it in 1121 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 2: the ass and they do this and they do that. 1122 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 2: We're more free to talk about our sexual bedlams than 1123 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 2: we are going to talk about Partey. 1124 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 1: I agree, and I think and I think though when 1125 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: we lean into money can't buy happiness and all those things, 1126 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: we lean into the other rope that I think is 1127 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: damn it just lost me. 1128 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 3: Money is a bad thing. 1129 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no millionaires or fake it till you make it. 1130 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,320 Speaker 1: That part like, there's there's an element of the competition 1131 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: also showing a mass of wealth or showing that you 1132 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: have something that you actually don't, which unfortunately then creates 1133 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: people frauding about what they're getting and not sharing the 1134 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: information that actually could help us pull us up by 1135 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: our bootstraps to go out and get the money that 1136 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: we desire, because. 1137 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 4: That obviously talks and tries to dismantle taboos. 1138 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1139 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 4: Right, So the idea when I was but the idea 1140 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 4: of money and that being a taboo, right, is that 1141 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 4: is that something that is changing will change. Is there 1142 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 4: a reason it's a taboo because it holds instructure. 1143 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 3: Listen to this. 1144 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 2: If I tell this girl that I make forty seven 1145 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year, so it's a chance she might 1146 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 2: want to not want to fuck with me. They just 1147 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 2: said they're not fucking with the dude that brings home 1148 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 2: four thousands, heymands down. So now the these dudes are 1149 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 2: sitting around front and wearing fake jewelry in the club, 1150 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 2: and I hope I could fuck her in three days 1151 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 2: because I don't have to see in the daytime. 1152 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 3: Because I ain't wearing this jewelry in the daytime. I'm 1153 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 3: mad at night. She'll never know, right. I know dudes 1154 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 3: that work nine to five jobs. This is a real story. 1155 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 2: I know niggas that work nine to five jobs and 1156 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 2: they go out and they pull they funds together to 1157 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 2: buy bottle, and the bottle might be nine hundred dollars 1158 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 2: two bottles because in New York clubs, if it's four 1159 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 2: of us, we got buy two bottles. 1160 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 3: Yep. Right, So now that bill eighteen hundred. Niggas might 1161 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 3: can't get to work the next week. 1162 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,799 Speaker 1: Niggas won't eat for a week. 1163 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, Like, yo, And that's all 1164 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 2: to try to impress somebody so that I can look 1165 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,760 Speaker 2: like I live a better lifestyle than what I actually. 1166 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 1: To answer that, yeah, I agree with them. I don't 1167 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: think we get to a position at all where money 1168 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: becomes a comfortable conversation, and unfortunately it is easier to 1169 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: talk about eating ass or being in a relationship with 1170 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: two women because I can't keep my dick to myself. 1171 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 1: So I want to open this up and be holly 1172 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: like those conversations where I love where it's pushing. 1173 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 3: The sexual freedom and the sexual. 1174 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: Freedom and liberation and and reality of what our relationships 1175 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 1: actually do entail. I think that that is leap years 1176 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: ahead of even where we are in Turkey and talking finances. 1177 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: I do want to real get it really quickly, get 1178 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: into hypocritical me, because god damn it, Yeah, I have 1179 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: a tweet that I don't like that. You just be 1180 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: pulling my tweets like this either from December since twenty 1181 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,959 Speaker 1: twenty three. It says I ended up taking a break 1182 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: on my house hunting this year, but I am very 1183 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: proud to be close to my forty thousand dollars saving goal. 1184 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: This is on top of reaching six figures in my 1185 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 1: four oh one k this year. I spend slash, enjoy 1186 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: my money, but not enough to not be prepared for 1187 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: a rainy day? Does anyone else use ally. 1188 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 4: So the context of the context of this one being 1189 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 4: and this is not you because you. 1190 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 1: Have a spas tree. 1191 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 3: This is a sponsor treetweet. I think this actually may 1192 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 3: have come from honestly, does any want to. 1193 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: Give you back conversations? And also my accountant around the 1194 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: interest like so where again, it was a lot for 1195 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,240 Speaker 1: me to have a savings account, right, and that's because 1196 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 1: no one in my family me growing up, no one 1197 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: had enough for any day. Savings was like, oh, I 1198 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: finally made it. Hearing to just if you're just keeping 1199 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: money in a regular Chase account or a savings account, 1200 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: you're seeing point zero zero one percent interest on just 1201 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: holding that money there, and you're not seeing agree with 1202 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: all that is giving you four sometimes five percent return 1203 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: on the money that you keep. 1204 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 4: Not sponsor, this is not She doesn't believe in black 1205 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 4: banks because she doesn't like she can't trust new institutions 1206 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 4: they're too new. But she likes Ally. But did you 1207 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 4: know that Ally has mad lawsuits against it for discriminating 1208 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 4: against black and Asian folks. 1209 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: Thank you every bank, every bank say at the end 1210 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: of the day, I get five for my money. And 1211 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: so yes, I mean when we're talking about again, that 1212 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: goes into cancel culture of of our morals of who 1213 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: we align with. I said on another episode, I still 1214 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: drink fucking Starbucks and I'm pro palaesier. 1215 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 2: But there's a cheek Code's a cheat code in your tweet. 1216 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 2: On top of reaching six figures in my four one 1217 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 2: K this year, you tweeted that in twenty twenty three 1218 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 2: you wasn't working corporate. 1219 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: So when you when you exit it, something you add 1220 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: I moved it along still coming. 1221 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is you had the discipline enough 1222 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 3: to just gonna let it cook. 1223 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: So called that finial literacy. You know what happens, it's 1224 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 2: not it's just following what they told you is the 1225 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 2: right thing to do. You are giving somebody your money. Yeah, 1226 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 2: they are investing this money, and they are giving you 1227 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 2: trash back on the money that they invested and made 1228 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 2: zillions of dollars from in the form of a four 1229 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 2: one K, and they sell you this rainbow that well five, 1230 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna have one point two million dollars. 1231 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 3: Nigga might not get the sixty five. I mean, I'm 1232 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 3: not gonna lie. 1233 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: This is, however, however, no coming coming from point my 1234 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: mom and my dad, I will say both in having 1235 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: a four oh one K where you talked earlier about 1236 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: being able to loan against a mortgage. This is what 1237 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: I've actually been able to see both my mom and 1238 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: dad do within their lifetime is loan against their fall 1239 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 1: one k. 1240 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 3: They stopping that too. You said what they stopped it 1241 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 3: in a bunch of companies. 1242 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: Now, oh, well, my my mom just did it and 1243 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: she's paying back. 1244 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 3: They want to let my girl do it. 1245 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: Really, I mean, it's probably based on your company, nigga. 1246 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: It's my company I'm saying I can loan against. But yeah, 1247 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: it is changing that. 1248 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 2: That that yo, we could pull the money for college, 1249 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 2: we could pull the money for a home purchase. They 1250 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,440 Speaker 2: are changing that ship, which means they are controlling how 1251 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,919 Speaker 2: you even take your money out. They told my girl 1252 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 2: that the only way she could get the money out 1253 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 2: is when she left. Oh wow, So what I'm telling 1254 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 2: you is if you were to take your four one 1255 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 2: K and you're to put your four one K. 1256 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 3: And bitcoin right now, you'll be up fifty x. Yeah. 1257 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 3: The education I'm just giving. 1258 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: If you put it in you to put the niggas 1259 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 1: that bought the NFTs a couple of years. 1260 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 3: Ago, that's a different That's okay. 1261 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is this the financial literacy piece. We 1262 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 2: feel more comfortable investing with the whites than we do 1263 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 2: with ourselves. If the white man say, yo, this four 1264 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 2: one K is where it's at, we're gonna say, yes, 1265 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 2: the boss, it's we're set, and we're gonna. 1266 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 3: Put our money there. 1267 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not you're not giving me one point two 1268 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 2: million dollars back on my money that you've been investing. 1269 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I love that you've been so smart this 1270 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: whole episode, because I want to shake the table just 1271 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: a little bit, and I do want to give is 1272 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 1: a financial literacy test right here on air. If you 1273 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: don't mind us routing out this way, I would love 1274 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: to see our financially literate you actually are. So here 1275 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 1: we go by the way where this is not an AD. 1276 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: But where are we pulling this quiz from? 1277 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 4: This is FINRA, it's the this is the Financial Financial 1278 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 4: Industry Regulation Authority. 1279 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Boom, there we go. Let's let's let's put let's put 1280 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: it to the test real quick. How many questions? So 1281 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 1: to live about seven seven questions? Let's go. 1282 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 4: I'll tell you the answers at the end. 1283 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So suppose you have one hundred dollars 1284 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: in a savings account earning two percent interests a year. 1285 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: After five years, how much have you earned more than 1286 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and two dollars? Exactly one hundred and two dollars, 1287 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: less than one hundred and two, or you don't know, 1288 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: more more than one hundred and two dollars. Okay. Imagine 1289 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: that the interest rate on your savings account is one 1290 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: percent a year and inflation is two percent a year. 1291 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 1: After one year, would the money in the account buy 1292 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: more than it does today? Exactly the same? 1293 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 4: Or less? 1294 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Us? He said less. 1295 01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 3: With confidence too. 1296 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: He's so if interest rates rise, what will typically happen 1297 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 1: two bond prices rise, falls, stay the same, or there 1298 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: is no relationship. 1299 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 3: No, it depends what it depends. Not one of the answers. 1300 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 3: I know, asshole. 1301 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 2: What's happened now right now is the bomb market is 1302 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 2: in the trash for one of the first times in 1303 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 2: the United States history, the bond market is coca. 1304 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 3: Interest rates are higher. 1305 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: So there's a relationship. 1306 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 3: You're saying, yeah, but I'm gonna put. 1307 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Multiple choice. You got two out of five fall? Okay? 1308 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: True or false? Oh, this is fifty fifty. You better 1309 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: get this. A fifteen year mortgage typically requires higher monthly 1310 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: payments than a thirty year mortgage, but the total interest 1311 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: over the life of the loan will be less. That's true, 1312 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 1: all right. Three more questions, true or false? 1313 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 3: I love it. 1314 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 1: Buying a single company's stock usually provides a stay for 1315 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: a return than a stock mutual false. False. I don't 1316 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 1: like that. You like really? Think you just you better 1317 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: have one hundred percent. Suppose you owe one hundred Suppose 1318 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: you owe one thousand dollars on a loan and the 1319 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: interest rate you are charged is twenty percent per year 1320 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 1: compounded annually. Oh my god, this takes me back to 1321 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: my accounting degree. If you didn't pay anything off at 1322 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 1: this interest rate, how many years would it take for 1323 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: the amount you owe to double? 1324 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 4: Give them? 1325 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Give two years, two to five years? Wait, nope, because 1326 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,560 Speaker 1: there's two to five, five to nine, ten or more 1327 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: or you don't know. So you saying five answers two 1328 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: of them. 1329 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 3: No, I said five to nine. It's the rule of 1330 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 3: seventy two. Okay, wait, wait, wait, let me fix that 1331 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 3: divided by seventy two. 1332 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: Huh, look at you knowing rules and shit. Okay, okay, 1333 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,479 Speaker 1: keep going carrot to one. 1334 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 3: So stupid. It's two to four twoti four All right, 1335 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 3: question wait, wait, oh. 1336 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 4: Hey, it's two to four's final answer. 1337 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 1: Final answer and last and hopefully y'all are following along 1338 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: and answering these as well. Which of the following indicates 1339 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 1: the highest probability of getting a particular disease? There is 1340 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 1: one and twenty chance of getting the disease, two percent 1341 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: of the population will get the disease, twenty five out 1342 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: of every thousand people will get. 1343 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 4: The disease, the disease or you do not know, hold on, 1344 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 4: let me do the math in my brain. 1345 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 1: One in twenty chance, one in twenty is five percent, 1346 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 1: two percent of the population A lot of motherfuckers. 1347 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 3: Twenty five out of a thousand is I think two 1348 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 3: point five zero point four. So what do you what? 1349 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 4: You can't be voting a friend. 1350 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Which which of the following indicat it is the highest 1351 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: probability then the first one, the first one, one and 1352 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: twenty chance of getting the disease? 1353 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 4: All right, and the results will tell you kind. 1354 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 1: Of Let's go to the results to see if it's 1355 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: just financially literate. 1356 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 3: Boom, yeah, really know you be talking about So we 1357 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 3: need to give some of these other financial. 1358 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Podcast classes all about the mask, but also real quick. 1359 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 4: So he got seven out of seven. 1360 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 3: Yes. 1361 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 4: National average with this test is people getting three point 1362 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 4: two correct how much? 1363 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 3: Three? Yeah? 1364 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so they're about almost halfway literate. 1365 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 3: There you go. If you want financial advice, how to 1366 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 3: get your financial ideas? 1367 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: That okay? I will say, Now, what have I changed 1368 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 1: my mind? Maybe just a little bit. On the home buying, 1369 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 1: I will say, especially because we have conversations about multifamily 1370 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 1: home purchases. Don't you. 1371 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 3: Been making this argument? 1372 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 1: Shut up? 1373 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 3: Shut out? 1374 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 1: So I have potentially changed my mind, And I wonder 1375 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 1: if any of you guys have to So where are 1376 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 1: we staying on all this you were saying? And I 1377 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: like to do a quick recap of what you know? 1378 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: My guests say, you say you're not giving back to 1379 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: the community for them niggas anything to do with the 1380 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: money they get. 1381 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 3: I didn't see anything of this sort. 1382 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: What hey, Ki, what else did you hear him saying that. 1383 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 3: We got work to do? 1384 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 1: Oh? 1385 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 3: That's what I guess. You got a lot of work 1386 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 3: to do. 1387 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 2: And I'm glad he At first, I was like, damn, 1388 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 2: it's gonna come in here and just light fire and ship. 1389 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 3: But he's we got work to do. 1390 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 2: Give us the tools too, and we gotta one of 1391 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 2: the one of the biggest layers is we got to 1392 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 2: remove the self sabotage of mistrust and we have to 1393 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 2: seek information. 1394 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 1: And he said all skin folks can't folks. Well, yeah, 1395 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: that part I mean, you know, and basically so I 1396 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: do have a question for the audiences. Well, after our conversation, 1397 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: has your mind changed? Do you think it's better to 1398 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 1: buy than to rent, no matter the financial environment, or 1399 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 1: do you think reparations won't help our community at all? 1400 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 1: I want you all to share your answers and the 1401 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 1: comments over on our social media page, especially the discord, 1402 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 1: and over on our Patreon, where again we have more 1403 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: of these very thought provoking conversations and we accept your 1404 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: bullshit opinions, so you can lean into your selective ignorance 1405 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 1: or choose to be educated. 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