WEBVTT - Julie Yang Silver Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>So I recently met an old friend started dating this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was one of those experiences that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have as you get older, where you just like immediately

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<v Speaker 1>bond with somebody. You're like, oh, we're going to be friends,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to just like and so he and I

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<v Speaker 1>just started. He's a cinematographer and a director and has

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<v Speaker 1>worked in the industry forever, started as a camera operator. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we were like just having that, Like we had two

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<v Speaker 1>days at a convention and we were just having so

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<v Speaker 1>much fun talking and at one point he goes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked with I worked with Will Fredell. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like what, and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>he tell me this story. He worked on Go Fish

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<v Speaker 1>with you. He was a camera operator on Go Fish,

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<v Speaker 1>the show that you did after Okay, he told me

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest story. He's like, you know, he's like, there

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<v Speaker 1>was there was a there was a young woman who

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<v Speaker 1>was a I think she was a stand in or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a guest star. And he's like, and there's Will.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like the handsomest, coolest guy with the teen bead

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<v Speaker 1>hair and everything, and he's asking me for advice. How

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<v Speaker 1>do I talk to this girl, and he was like

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<v Speaker 1>it was so adorable. I was like, no, that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like Will, that's what he's like. I just remember being like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're asking me, I can't help you, like you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta just talk to her, but to talk to some

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<v Speaker 1>girl on set and you and he was like just baffled.

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<v Speaker 1>But he loved it. He was like, yeah, Will and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a great time. It was so fun to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out a team. Charles. I actually don't know his

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<v Speaker 1>last name, but yeah, but he was the nicest guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and like that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, we're gonna blow past the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you're out there making new friends.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, are you surprised?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you?

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<v Speaker 2>But it's just it still hurts occasionally. I mean when

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<v Speaker 2>you realize that we're not enough for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well no, but you should know that. Because he

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<v Speaker 4>has the opportunity to hang out with us, and we

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<v Speaker 4>are on the road, you'd think, well, who else would

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<v Speaker 4>you hang out with?

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what the answer is almost anyone?

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone else is the answer for writer, anyone else be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Spend a lot of time with you.

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<v Speaker 3>No you don't, yes, I do. Just we're here to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you no, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guys don't come out with me. I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>like after a show, I'll be like, hey, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>get a drink, let's go get some food, and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are like, I'm going to my room, I'm ordering

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<v Speaker 1>in and I'm going to sit thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>Hold on, Also, that's not true. We do that when

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, I'm going out with my friend. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>even invite us to go along with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Then I guess Will and I will go to.

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<v Speaker 1>Bed separately, separately. Yeah, that's yeah, I agree. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was funny to make a kid have a

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<v Speaker 1>story that went back to two thousand Wilfred Dell. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's exactly my friend Will like, you know him, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't talk to girls, And.

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<v Speaker 5>Luckily now I don't have to Susan, which is great.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you find it easy to talk to Susan most

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<v Speaker 3>of the time?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times he has to call me and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, how do I talk to her? Will? Come on?

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go on a date with me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still convinced.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like to let her know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I try to keep her down as much as possible

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<v Speaker 2>because if she finds out that she can do better

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<v Speaker 2>than me, which she can, I'm screwed right, She's out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just try to make her feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the best you can do, knowing full well

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<v Speaker 2>she could throw a stone.

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<v Speaker 1>And hits somebody better than me.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, hopefully she did marry you though, So that's

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<v Speaker 4>a good sign.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's true. It's usually a good sign that

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<v Speaker 1>it can work, that it will work out. So that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right or strong, and I just don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to her. So if I mean do I

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<v Speaker 1>just go, I'm will.

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<v Speaker 4>This past month, a TikTok video from creator Nicole's story

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<v Speaker 4>Dent went viral where she was walking through her local

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<v Speaker 4>department store and noticed something very familiar. The mannequins displayed

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<v Speaker 4>on the floor were wearing outfits that looked almost exactly

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<v Speaker 4>like clothing scene on Boy Meets World, Sean Corey.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister Feeney, even Minkis.

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<v Speaker 4>She matched the looks with screenshots from the show, and

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<v Speaker 4>it was mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is then?

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<v Speaker 6>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Is now? We are all connected. That's right. Thirty years later, time.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a flat circle, and now it appears our classic

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<v Speaker 4>nineties wardrobe is again in style and being marketed to

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<v Speaker 4>young kids and adults prepping for spring.

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<v Speaker 3>How does that happen?

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<v Speaker 4>How do short sleeve shirts on top of long sleeve

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<v Speaker 4>shirts and sweater vests with military style, fuzzy collared jackets

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<v Speaker 4>and wool professor blazers find themselves available in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>six decades later. That's the work of a good costumer.

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<v Speaker 4>A few seasons back, we talked to the great Sarah Moskowitz,

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<v Speaker 4>who was a driving force and getting us out of

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<v Speaker 4>those XXL shirts and into clothes that actually fit.

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<v Speaker 3>But from seasons three.

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<v Speaker 4>Through seven there was another name we remembered fondly, and

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<v Speaker 4>that is this week's guest.

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<v Speaker 3>Young enough to be a part of our crew.

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<v Speaker 4>She came from the world of Martin Lawrence, working on

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<v Speaker 4>his stylistically forward sitcom and movies, and then joined us

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<v Speaker 4>and stayed through the finale.

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<v Speaker 3>And since those.

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<v Speaker 4>Days her resume is chock full of projects cooler than

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<v Speaker 4>Boy Meets World. We've got Vampire Diaries, Breaking Bad Ocean's

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<v Speaker 4>eleven American horror story and recently a show that earned

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<v Speaker 4>her an Emmy nomination, Star Wars the Mandalorian. How she

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<v Speaker 4>was unable to get us cast as Stormtroopers we will

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<v Speaker 4>never know. And so now we are excited to welcome

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<v Speaker 4>a crew FA favorite to Pod Meets World. The reason

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<v Speaker 4>our costumes are now years later hip with the kids.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Julie Yang Silver, Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you there?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes? Well not?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, thank you so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 3>You have not changed a single.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, the same everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, get you guys. Hi, We're so now.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh it's been like twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I don't think I've seen you since

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<v Speaker 1>the show ended, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, no, so twenty six years ninety nine. Really, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean the show own off in two thousand. But oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, we are so happy to see you. And

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<v Speaker 4>I want you to know, like ninety five percent of

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<v Speaker 4>our memories of you involved the idea that you were

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<v Speaker 4>very very cool. So will you please set the record straight?

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<v Speaker 4>Were you very cool?

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<v Speaker 6>I was very cool. I got so to your age.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought you guys were amazing, And I mean there's

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<v Speaker 6>a whole story behind it. I mean I look back

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<v Speaker 6>now and I'm like, holy crap, I was twenty six, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>which is so weird because it felt like I was

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<v Speaker 6>so much older, you know, and you guys really weren't.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I wasn't that much older than you nothing,

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<v Speaker 6>you Will.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so you were twenty six when you started or

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<v Speaker 1>when you finished?

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<v Speaker 6>No, I think I was. I was twenty six when

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<v Speaker 6>I started, because I think it was yeah in ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>You started in like ninety six. Yeah, yeah, wow you

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I'm not that much older. No, So I

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<v Speaker 1>was sixteen then, and Will would have been.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what.

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<v Speaker 1>One? Yeah like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh my god, so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>It was one of the first things I said when

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<v Speaker 4>we were talking about having you on and Jensen was

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<v Speaker 4>asking about, you know, things that we remember, and I said,

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<v Speaker 4>more than any other crew member, it felt like you

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<v Speaker 4>were just our age.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, Julie, you must have been the youngest

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<v Speaker 1>crew member then, right.

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<v Speaker 6>I was. I don't know if you guys recall, but

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<v Speaker 6>I went and got my US citizenship and I went

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<v Speaker 6>to night. It was on a Friday night we were taping,

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<v Speaker 6>and I went and got sworn in, and then I

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<v Speaker 6>came back to the show and we were just started

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<v Speaker 6>and I was like, yeah, I'm legit, and I had

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<v Speaker 6>like my little thing. They put me on camera and

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, this is so weird.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>So it would have been a Thursday night because we

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<v Speaker 4>taped on Thursdays.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, it would have been a Thursday night. But

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<v Speaker 6>I just remember it was the best time with you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was really so much fun. Another thing I

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<v Speaker 4>have to talk to you about because again I've been

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<v Speaker 4>so excited to have you on, and we have talked

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<v Speaker 4>so much on our podcast, so much about Will and

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<v Speaker 4>I smoking. I think I'm now at the ripe old

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<v Speaker 4>age of forty four. I think I'm old enough to

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<v Speaker 4>admit to my mother the very first cigarette I ever

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<v Speaker 4>had was when I stole from Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>Corrupting the youth.

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<v Speaker 4>She had a pack of smokes, like in her bag

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, oh, were you was it Marlboro

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<v Speaker 4>reds lights lights?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I going out with Will and would be like outside,

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<v Speaker 6>be like all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, yeah, and you were like away from your bag,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think you knew.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Knew I was stealing cigarettes from you, and you were

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<v Speaker 4>just like, I'm not going to pay any attention to this.

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<v Speaker 1>But I.

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<v Speaker 4>My first cigarette I ever had was one I stole

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<v Speaker 4>out of your bag and then smoked alone, like.

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<v Speaker 3>A weirdo who had the first cigarette?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, but what they steal and then smokes alone like

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<v Speaker 4>a total weirdo.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did, just I have.

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<v Speaker 4>I have thought of you many a times over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>When you wake up in the morning coughing.

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<v Speaker 3>Julian Bright.

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<v Speaker 6>It was so weird because I saw you had changed

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<v Speaker 6>your last name, and so I sent you know, and

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<v Speaker 6>it it's the message. I think it was like two

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<v Speaker 6>or three years ago. And then when this whole thing

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<v Speaker 6>came up, I saw you responded you were like, oh

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<v Speaker 6>my god, I never.

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<v Speaker 3>Saw this so funny on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well I just wrote to you on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Mine was on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, because when we when we talked about wanting

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<v Speaker 4>to have you on I said, let me see if

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<v Speaker 4>I can find her on Facebook. And then I found

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<v Speaker 4>you on Facebook and saw your message and was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>just seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>This, oh, which was the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Danielle's got a history of maybe not seeing messages so

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<v Speaker 2>much on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, we are so happy to have you here.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to know.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to jump into how what is your costuming

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<v Speaker 4>origin story? What did how did you get the job

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<v Speaker 4>on Boy Meets World? Was Boy Meets World's your first job?

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<v Speaker 4>How did you start at such a young age?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so I did go to a fashion school for

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<v Speaker 6>like a year. I couldn't afford it, and I ended

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<v Speaker 6>up just I was going to merchandise marketing and I

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<v Speaker 6>was at FIDM. Couldn't afford my second year. So then

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, Okay, well, I'm just going to keep

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<v Speaker 6>working in the industry. Cut to a couple of years later.

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<v Speaker 6>I was dating this guy who was a stage manager

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<v Speaker 6>and the company I worked for went under, and so

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<v Speaker 6>he was like, Hey, do me a favor. Can you

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<v Speaker 6>bring me this, you know, this thing that I left

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<v Speaker 6>at my house? And I was like, yeah, sure, no problem.

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<v Speaker 6>So I go and I'd drop it off and he

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<v Speaker 6>introduced it was back in the Oh my gosh, the

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<v Speaker 6>Power Ranger Error the entertainment. So it was a show

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<v Speaker 6>called Tattoo Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome show.

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<v Speaker 6>I ended up meeting the designer there and Eddie Castro,

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<v Speaker 6>who was phenomenal, and him and I just kind of

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<v Speaker 6>hit it on and he was super great and he

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<v Speaker 6>was like, oh, will you come help me on something?

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like yeah, sure, you know, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 6>i'll pay you one hundred dollars. And at that time

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't working. I was actually helping out in my parents' restaurant,

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<v Speaker 6>and so I was like sure. Come to find out,

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<v Speaker 6>it was like sixteen hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>One hundred bucks. But I had the best time I

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<v Speaker 6>and it was like a commercial, so there was like

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<v Speaker 6>food galore catering. I was like sucked in by the

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<v Speaker 6>food and I thought, oh, well that's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun craft service. How they get you out, how they

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<v Speaker 1>get you out.

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<v Speaker 6>So they totally did. So it went really quick. I

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<v Speaker 6>was really lucky got started with him, and within about

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<v Speaker 6>a year I got into the Union amazing, and I

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<v Speaker 6>was working for an actor that I decided not to

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<v Speaker 6>go back to work with him, and my friend Eddie

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<v Speaker 6>calls me up and he was like, Hey, they're looking for,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like a supervisor slash designer on this kid

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<v Speaker 6>show called Boy Meet's World. I'm like, you've got to

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<v Speaker 6>be me, Like, I haven't done this for very long.

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<v Speaker 6>I've liked supervised. I've been doing this for maybe two years, pops,

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<v Speaker 6>and he was like, no, I think you should go

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<v Speaker 6>do it. So we did a whole board and everything.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was so nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you had you had to kind of audition,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, ideas of Oh that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I had to kind of you know, And

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<v Speaker 6>so I came in and met with Michael Jacobs and

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<v Speaker 6>I was completely nervous, and I was thinking, there's no way,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. I mean, I remember at that time I

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<v Speaker 6>even had I had cut my hair short because I

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<v Speaker 6>looked so young and nobody was taking me seriously. And

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<v Speaker 6>so I went in and Michael was like, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>and he had, you know, very strong ideas about what

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<v Speaker 6>he wanted you guys to be in, yeah, and everything.

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<v Speaker 6>So I was like, okay, it's you know, I get

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<v Speaker 6>to go shop, you know, I think I can do

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<v Speaker 6>this and lo and behold, you know I did, and

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<v Speaker 6>he hired me. And I was like, why in the

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<v Speaker 6>world did he hire me? Like I had hardly anything

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<v Speaker 6>on my resume, let alone even design. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't even I don't have that creative creative like because

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<v Speaker 6>most designers are like kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But but the ary is that you're trying to look

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<v Speaker 1>older by cutting your hair. But the reality but you

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<v Speaker 1>being younger was probably an asset.

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<v Speaker 6>It was, it was, and I think, like I think,

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<v Speaker 6>like a year into it, I remember asking Michael. I

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<v Speaker 6>was like, why did you hire me? He was like, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I figured, you know, if I didn't like what you did,

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<v Speaker 6>I just fire you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's about right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how far we get too into our time on

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<v Speaker 4>Boy Meets World. I got very into the look of

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<v Speaker 4>the Beverly Hills alien fighters when I was doing some

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<v Speaker 4>research on you and Will and writer. I would like

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<v Speaker 4>for you to take a look at some of these

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<v Speaker 4>and Julie, could you please tell us the inside story

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<v Speaker 4>on some of these costumes.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go to the picture.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh, oh my, yes, yes, these are the

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<v Speaker 6>tattoo teenagers from Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, aliens. Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so I was helping. I actually didn't design that.

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<v Speaker 6>That was from Eddie was designing it. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. That was like back in the days of like

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<v Speaker 6>the power ranges, anything that was like fitted that showed

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<v Speaker 6>off everything and it was kind of great.

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<v Speaker 4>So for our dear listeners who maybe don't see this

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<v Speaker 4>right away. It is lay text, just skin tex, skin

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<v Speaker 4>tight lateext with arm muscles like glistening. But the the

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<v Speaker 4>like body oil glow is also all over the latex,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's just like and then there's masks. Are they

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<v Speaker 4>also Latex masks?

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<v Speaker 6>They were kind of Latex masks, but that stuff gets

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<v Speaker 6>really like ye to eat, eat and hot, so they

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<v Speaker 6>had to make it so it was more like something

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<v Speaker 6>they can just pull over and we put the latex

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<v Speaker 6>over that to help fit it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean in those days, it was like you suffered,

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<v Speaker 6>you sucked it up, and you just did.

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<v Speaker 1>Now were any of these looks on your vision board?

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<v Speaker 2>For I can see shine, and I can see.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Lawrence could have pulled off some latex. He could

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<v Speaker 1>have It would have been great.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I would pitch for Cory, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see that funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember what you pitched? Do you remember what

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<v Speaker 1>your your board looked like?

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<v Speaker 6>My gosh, it was very he wanted. I mean it

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<v Speaker 6>was back in the whole, you know, t g I.

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<v Speaker 6>So it was all about wholesome, very down to earth.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you guys were like the next like happy days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>really normal, you know, Midwest, like everybody wanted to be you.

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<v Speaker 6>So that was what the idea of Disney was doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you get Boy Meets World, Michael hires you

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<v Speaker 4>because worst case scenario, he's going to fire you.

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<v Speaker 6>I kept thinking for like, I want to say, the

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<v Speaker 6>first three months, I was like, he's going to fire me, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going this job. I'm not the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh my gosh, that's unbelievable. When did you then

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<v Speaker 4>start working with the Red Hot Martin Lawrence?

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<v Speaker 6>That was when I first It was the same thing

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<v Speaker 6>with Eddie. He called me up and he was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing this little showtime thing, come do it with me.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, oh okay, and so I went.

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<v Speaker 6>We were like out in the desert and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 6>So then that finished and then he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing this other you know show, and that show

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<v Speaker 6>was the one that turned union and I got in

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<v Speaker 6>the union. But it was literally just Eddie, me and

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<v Speaker 6>I think I hired. I hired my friend who I

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<v Speaker 6>ended up firing because show up one day. It was

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<v Speaker 6>like back in the days, like you did everything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I think at one point. I even we had a

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<v Speaker 6>pool scene and I the wind was blowing and the

0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.480
<v Speaker 6>actress was on a raft and I actually got in

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<v Speaker 6>the water with a straw to hold her in place

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<v Speaker 6>because I was the smallest one and I fit underneath. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 6>it was a fun It was a fun show. I

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<v Speaker 6>think I even have a little can in it. No,

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<v Speaker 6>he was that it was. It was really funny. I

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<v Speaker 6>had my headset on and they were like, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be one of the go go dancers at the club.

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<v Speaker 6>So they harnessed me up high and I'm on my

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<v Speaker 6>walkie and I'm like telling people like no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>get his outfit off, get his hat off. So there's

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<v Speaker 6>like a really quick shot. I haven't seen it. I

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<v Speaker 6>think I decided to blur that away. I was like

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<v Speaker 6>twenty four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of stuff too, Julie, we blur a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Sure, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 4>So you you did all of that before you joined

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<v Speaker 4>Boy Meets World.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, And then from there I went to uh work

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<v Speaker 6>on his TV show, and then I did nothing to

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<v Speaker 6>lose with him and Tim Robbins, who I love. Tim

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<v Speaker 6>was fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, I think one of the kind of underrated

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<v Speaker 2>films of the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not joking. This film, Oh Nothing to Lose is

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<v Speaker 1>so great.

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<v Speaker 2>So Martin Lawrence, he plays a carjacker who Tim Robbins

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<v Speaker 2>comes home and he finds he sees his wife Kelly Preston,

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<v Speaker 2>having an affair, and he just walks out of the

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<v Speaker 2>house and he drives and he gets carjacked by Martin

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence and he looks at him and he just goes, man,

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<v Speaker 2>did you pick the wrong guy and on the wrong day,

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<v Speaker 2>and just takes off with the carjacker in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's the adventure that they then have together, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is just so it's Oda Kirk.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh yeah Kirk. No, not Bob, Steve Steve Kirk.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Julie. I hate to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>I am on the road touring with the Dancing with

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<v Speaker 4>the Stars tour. So I'm gonna hop off because I

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.200
<v Speaker 4>have the bus is waiting for me downstairs to head

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<v Speaker 4>to the venue. The guys are going to finish the

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<v Speaker 4>interview with you.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to catch up.

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<v Speaker 4>Even if we can't see each other face to face

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 4>for a while, we need to catch up. I'd love

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 4>to talk to you over the phone, so I'm so

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.080
<v Speaker 4>mad that I have to miss the rest of this interview.

0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 1>But to go about Ryan and I are going to

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<v Speaker 1>do a much interview question why I want to keep.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about Martin because at the time this show was

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<v Speaker 2>like a cultural phenomenon, the Martin Lawrence Show. And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons I think was because of the look

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<v Speaker 2>of the show that there was a even the the

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<v Speaker 2>the opening title sequence, there's kind of pastel looks and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a vibe to Martin. And how much of

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<v Speaker 2>that did you contribute to when it came to the

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<v Speaker 2>look of the characters.

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<v Speaker 6>Honestly, I personally did not, but because my job was

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<v Speaker 6>just to take care of him, I worked with him

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<v Speaker 6>on a thin line between love and hate. That's the

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<v Speaker 6>show that ended up going union. I mean the day

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<v Speaker 6>we turn Union, I think the gangs we were shoe

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<v Speaker 6>in a very bad area and there was a truce

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.439
<v Speaker 6>call between I think the Crips and the Blood for

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:13.199
<v Speaker 6>us to be able to film there, and then we

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 6>had a bunch of delays and health issues that Martin

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:20.640
<v Speaker 6>went through, and they the Crips and Blood got really

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 6>kind of pissed and basically said they gave us, like

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<v Speaker 6>I think like a time frame. And the day that

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.640
<v Speaker 6>we striked to turn Union Are, the neighbors all came

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<v Speaker 6>out and they were like, you guys need to get

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<v Speaker 6>out before sundown because they're going to start taking potshots

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 6>at you. I mean literally, the producers came by. I

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:45.159
<v Speaker 6>were like grabbing the stuff, and the producers like yelling

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 6>at me, get in your car and leave. And I

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 6>was like, but there's still some clothes. I got to

0:23:51.280 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 6>get the dressing, the set dressing. You was like, get

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<v Speaker 6>in your car and leave now, and oh, yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't realize that because we had this huge cast

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 6>like Bobby Brown and you know, obviously Martin, and it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a fabulous show. But we had several delays

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 6>and they did not want us there. They did not

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 6>want us in that neighborhood, and they wanted us out.

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<v Speaker 6>So then after that, that's when I went to go

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<v Speaker 6>work on Martin and I basically just took care of him.

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.880
<v Speaker 6>I made sure that, you know, everything that he needed.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know about you guys, but I mean actors

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<v Speaker 6>have they do have a lot of say in the

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.719
<v Speaker 6>colors and you know what fits. I mean, obviously it's

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 6>a collaborated effort, but you guys do have quite a

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 6>bit of influence.

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Well it's funny because I don't think we thought we

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>did back on boybats the world, Like I feel like

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>we like Will and I definitely did not have any

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>taste or opinions. So was that a good thing for

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>you or did you do like you do? You remember

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like dressing us and just telling us what to wear?

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>What was your relationship?

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 6>I remember dressing you guys and telling you guys what

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.479
<v Speaker 6>to wear. I also remember at different parts I was like,

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 6>is there something different, like how do you feel about

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 6>this character? And we all would just be like, eh, miswetter,

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, that's pretty much it.

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>And then.

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 6>For you it was more of like oh another T shirt, okay,

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 6>with another thing. It was like, you know, we kind

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 6>of went through the little more eclectic trying to make

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 6>you a little more you know, fool and and Will

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:46.160
<v Speaker 6>was just like sweaters and regular button down shirts and

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, so it was we could not go too

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 6>far out. I mean we were really dictated a lot

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 6>by that wholesome yeah, right.

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Right, So was it creatively satisfying at all or was

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:04.959
<v Speaker 1>it just sort of like a fun job, you know,

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>in terms of being able to the set and the dynamics.

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 6>It was a fun job. There were times that do

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.360
<v Speaker 6>you guys remember what was that episode that we did

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:16.400
<v Speaker 6>with like World War two?

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, like.

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 6>That was a lot of fun.

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right.

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>We did have a couple kind of out of when

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you were there, a couple out of the box ones.

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 2>We did the black and white one, like the Casablanca one. Yeah,

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and we did the fifties. Were you there for the

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 2>fifties one? Or did you came you came after the

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>fifties one?

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 6>I came after the fifties one.

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.360
<v Speaker 1>And you did the World War two? So you did

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the forties and then yeah, okay.

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 2>It was we did, and especially for my character, there

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of times where there put me in

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 2>some pretty weird like we just watched the Honeymoon episode

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 2>where I'm a coconut at one point, and so that

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.159
<v Speaker 2>was that must have been an interesting especially by season

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 2>six and seven, to get a script and it's like, oh,

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Will's a tree, Will's a couch, Will's.

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 6>Well, it was kind of like if they were going

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 6>to make anybody anything, it was going to be well

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 6>right right, yeah right, so I know, I know, and

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 6>it's also a very you know within like what that

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 6>five years? Four years? It was hard to keep going.

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you guys were growing up, right, you know,

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 6>started to actually really find your own identity and what

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 6>you liked and you know, and but we still had

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 6>to keep your character the same. But you guys had

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 6>all grown out.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Of that, right, right, So do you remember watching us

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 1>go through awful adolescents and awkward faces? I mean, because

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny because in my mind I thought of

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>you as somewhat of a contemporary like you. But I've

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>listened to so I mean here I was like seventeen

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>talking to you, like, I mean, do you do you remember?

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>What do you remember about us personally? Like having to

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>listen to our dumb love life problems or what was it?

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 5>Like?

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 6>No, I remember Will when you were dating Jennifer and

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 6>we went through that, oh gosh. And I remember when

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 6>Matthew came in and you guys would to that.

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Singing dancing in front of the audience.

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, uh huh. And then you know, and I remember

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.679
<v Speaker 6>for a writer, like when Trina came along. She was

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 6>so much older and having that kind of dynamic and

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 6>it was just like wow, he's you know, and you

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 6>did it beautifully. I think the most that I remember

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 6>was more for Danielle because she was you know, and

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 6>I related more to her just because she was a

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:39.719
<v Speaker 6>female and a young teenager growing up and and society

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 6>and oh my gosh, there were so many discussions, heated discussions.

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>About her wardrobe or yes.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 6>Ye, and that Karen the producer, Karen Machine. Yeah, she

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 6>was a huge Danielle advocate and her not. She would

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 6>me up and we would go against Michael and he

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 6>would just be like, well, no, I don't like. I

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 6>was like, you're never going to open your mouth and

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 6>ever say something like that again. We will take care

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 6>of it. We will. It's like, you know, there's this

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 6>whole like image, right and how people looked and on

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 6>camera it does add weight, you know, and when you're

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 6>of short stature and definitely things change, and so it

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 6>that part we had a tiptoe.

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that because one of

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>the things Danielle talked about, and I'm sure she would

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>have brought it up if she was not doing awesome

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 2>things with amazing people around the world instead of us.

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>We don't hold a grudge, if you know, obviously, I

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>put on a bunch of weight towards the end. Danielle

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>put on a little bit of weight towards the end,

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 2>But of course it was all about how she put

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 2>on so much weight. And one of the things she

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>talked about was during the wedding episode. Specifically, she remembers

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 2>that she was allowed to quote on quote, helped pick

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>the dress, but none of them were allowed to be sleeveless. Yeah,

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>and she thinks that one of the reasons that that

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 2>was is because certain powers that be thought that she

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>looked too heavy to show her arms bare.

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Is that, in fact what happened, Yes, it is, so

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you were just constantly having conversations about I was.

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 6>Yes, it was constant conversation. And the thing was, Danielle

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 6>was not heavy. No, no, my god, That's what I

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 6>was trying to explain to them. I was like, she

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 6>is still a size too, Like, I don't know what

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 6>you guys are talking about, but because of her stature,

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 6>and they were so used to seeing because she bloomed overnight.

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 6>I think by the time when I started, she had

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 6>grown outwards and.

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:56.959
<v Speaker 1>She wasn't eleven anymore. That's what happens.

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.239
<v Speaker 6>Exactly, But that was the thing though, was that you know,

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 6>Danielle's not very tall, so if you are bustier and

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.479
<v Speaker 6>you're not very tall, you're going to look larger, right,

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 6>And but she wasn't, like you guys saw her every

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 6>single day. She was not large at all.

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing. We talked about it.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 2>She put on probably she said like maybe eight pounds,

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 2>nine pounds.

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I put on thirty.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 6>Well nobody really cared, that's right, it's nobody.

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>That was the thing that was so amazing. That's the

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>double standard, right, talk.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>About my my weight gain and changing my clothes or

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 2>they were just like they don't care.

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>They don't care at all. Yeah, let him go be funny,

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he'll put on a bigger shirt. We're fine, exactly.

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>But Danielle, there were conversation after conversation about wow.

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 6>I remember specifically, oh, and then like trying to hide

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 6>Trina's pregnancy. But you guys remember the episode.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>The which one the prom Oh yeah yeah, sure.

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 6>Okay, so Trina is like seven months pregnant, so you know,

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 6>so we're trying to hide that. And and it was

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 6>the same thing for Danielle where she needed sleeves and

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 6>I was like, no, that's going to look ridiculous for

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 6>prom like, absolutely ridiculous. So we ended up, you know,

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 6>we did a shawl and I remember Karen and I

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 6>we really went up to bat for that one, and

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 6>we I think Karen and I mostly Karen too, was

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 6>just like, you will never ever, we don't want to

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 6>ever hear anybody say anything to Danielle about this.

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay. I was going to ask, does she have

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>any was she aware we discussions?

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 6>I think she knew, but we really tried to like

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.239
<v Speaker 6>hide that from her in terms of because you know,

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 6>she's a teenager, like that's going to get in her head.

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 6>And that was the thing that Karen and I were

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 6>both saying, was that she is a young woman and

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 6>that could do so much psychological damage. This is so

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 6>not worth it, right.

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 6>So we were treading very very lightly, and yeah, there

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 6>were some and I'm sure you know, Danielle knew, and

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, because I remember there were times when she would,

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, we would do sweaters and she would be like,

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:20.959
<v Speaker 6>I look so huge in this, and I was like, honey,

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 6>that is an extra small yeah right, yeah, you know,

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 6>and it's it was just being on camera like back then, like,

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 6>we videotaped it, so it really did add more in

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 6>with a certain camera angles and stuff. You know, it

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 6>just made her look more compact. Yeah, but when you

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 6>saw her in person, she was not even remotely close.

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 2>No, we just watched the Honeymoon episode and one of

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the things we talked about was the fact that she

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 2>comes out in a negligee. She's kind of naked under

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>the under the cover she's doing all this, and I said,

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like, how four or five episodes from now

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 2>we do an episode about how you've put on so

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 2>much weight? I mean again, at that point, I was

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 2>used to it so and I was a guy and

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.959
<v Speaker 2>I was funny, so it didn't matter. But as America's sweetheart,

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 2>it was one of those things where we looked at

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 2>her and it was like, how how could they look

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 2>at what you look like there and be like, we

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 2>got to do an episode about how you've put on weight?

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Like written, what how we're seeing the same thing.

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>But that's also, I will say, to your credit, that's

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 2>also where being closer to our age than almost anybody

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 2>else on the set that we were.

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean that.

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 2>You there were pas and people on the set like

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 2>that were closer our age, but you don't really spend

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time with them, and it's not as

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 2>intimate a relationship as somebody who's dressing you and we're

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 2>doing fittings and you're doing and your room at the

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 2>time became like our therapy place.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>This is a cool hangout spot. We would go and

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>hang out with you. You and I would go smoke.

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I remember you mentioned love, and when I broke up

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 2>with love, I remember you wouldn't you like to help

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 2>me through that? I mean, it was that was one

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>of those things where we just we hung out. We

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 2>all hung out, and so it was when we were

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>putting on way, breaking up with girlfriends, doing all that stuff, that's.

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>We came to you. That was like the room where

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>we hung out.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 6>That you guys are one of the main reasons why

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 6>I loved doing what I did in all honesty, like

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 6>I loved that family feel and everything, but I also

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 6>tried to really make it so like I never you know,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 6>I didn't go out and party with you guys, or

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:20.800
<v Speaker 6>because I knew that you guys would be going out afterwards,

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 6>and I'd be like, oh no, I think that's super

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 6>crossing the line. And then but I was still just like, okay,

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, whatever you guys needed, I would be there.

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean, writer you were talking about, you know, going

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 6>through that transition and everything and watching you guys grow up,

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 6>Like watching you guys like throw your clothes on top

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 6>of the closet when you're done, and we're trying to

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 6>like jump up there to get your you know. By

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 6>the end, I think they finally like begged you, like

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.760
<v Speaker 6>please write or just and you would just like okay,

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 6>you would fold him and then put them on the thing.

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 6>Then then we finally got him to just at least

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 6>throw it on the floor. It was Yeah, it became

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.800
<v Speaker 6>like this game all of a sudden, and poor Cheryl,

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 6>who was taking care of you guys, was just like,

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 6>that's right, I need I need a step stool because

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 6>they keep throwing it on top they keep throwing on

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 6>top of their closet.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. I remember specifically being like I had

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>to hang up my clothes, like I remember being taught like,

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and so by the time I was like seventeen eighteen,

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I'm gonna hang out. But I

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>also very specifically remember it being like a game where

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Ben would throw his shirts off. Yeah, throw them as

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<v Speaker 1>far as he could. Yes, Oh my god, Oh, just

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to piss you guys off. I feel like, well, and.

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<v Speaker 6>Cheryl loved Ben, so she would have done anything. And

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 6>I would be like, do I need to talk to him?

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 6>And she's like, no, no, no, he's just being a boy.

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>There's one other word we've heard quite a bit on

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 2>this podcast, and I think it's the same word writer's

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 2>going to say.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say at the same time rider one, two

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>three tank Hank does this ring? Is this ring a

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>bell for Morgan?

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 6>Oh? Yeah?

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>So we just watched the episode and it's where Lindsay Ridgeway,

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>who was playing Morgan, goes on their first date at thirteen, right,

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And there's a whole scene where her dad Alan Rusty,

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>freaks out about the fact that she's wearing a tankini.

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>And we had Lindsay on the podcast and this was

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like one of her core memories from doing the show.

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember this at all or I remember.

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<v Speaker 6>Bits and pieces. I just remember what was the big deal?

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 5>Right? It was?

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 6>It was made to be such a big deal. And

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 6>and Lindsay plays younger than she really is, right, So

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 6>she was just like what you know, and my whole

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 6>thing was, like in any of that stuff, was just

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 6>to make sure you guys are comfortable in it. And

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 6>if you're not comfortable in it, I will go up

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:10.280
<v Speaker 6>to bat right. And I don't recall, I mean refresh

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 6>my memory, what did lindsay say about it?

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<v Speaker 1>She just was somewhat traumatized by having to wear something

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>so scantily clad, you know, because it's like a weird

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>tank top belly showing thing that I don't know if

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>we invented the tanking or if the but it was

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it was in the script, so then yeah, you know

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>there she just remembers there being a lot of discussion about,

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, how scantily claud she was going to look,

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and much how much to show, how much to make Yeah,

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>because you know, the story point is that she's dressed

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.479
<v Speaker 1>too sexy for her dad, but of course she's still

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>actually very much a little girl. And yeah, so she

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>just remembers having to wear this, you know, very feeling.

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:54.439
<v Speaker 6>We had to shorten the top because most tankinis they're

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 6>like one piece, not one piece, but the top is

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 6>goes all the way down to your waist and then

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 6>you have the bottoms I think we had to shorten them.

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 6>I mean it was I would say it was probably

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 6>hardest for Lindsey just because you're in front of a camera.

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 6>You know, you're showing off everything. She's a teenager too, right,

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 6>you know, she's growing up. So I don't know, maybe

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 6>I just blocked it all out of my mind, any

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 6>of the trauma of like things that I had to

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:24.280
<v Speaker 6>put you guys through.

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, So after you leave Boy Meets World

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and and then you downgrade to a movie called Ocean's Eleven.

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 2>With arguably the ugliest cast just in the history of Hollywood.

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>So tell us about that. You worked on Ocean's Eleven,

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.919
<v Speaker 1>I did. It's a crazy scene to be a part.

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh my, tell us about it.

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 6>It was. It was so much fun. I have never

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 6>like that crew was like clockwork, like we were doing

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 6>seven hour days. Call seriously, because he knew exactly how

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 6>he wanted to shoot it and operated the camera. It

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 6>was just and the entire cast, seriously, they I think

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 6>they only each got like one perk. So to do that,

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 6>to do that movie, that means like you know, like

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you get stars like George Clooney and Julie Roberts,

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, like Brad Pitt, they usually have like their

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 6>own hair, makeups.

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 2>There, you know, personal assistance trailers, yeah.

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 6>Tons of stuff, but they each only picked one thing,

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:54.760
<v Speaker 6>and I think was it. George had his hairstylists wald

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.200
<v Speaker 6>I think was his name really Waldo, because we were

0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 6>always like, where's Waldo? I think Matt Matt had brought

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 6>his own chef Brad. Brad had his own makeup artist

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 6>who also did his hair. I think she did his hair.

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 6>But they were all like I was. I was thinking, like,

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 6>oh my gosh, we're going to be around a bunch.

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Of like diva.

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 6>So much fun. Don Cheetle. I love him to death,

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, but you can also and like Brad Pitt,

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:36.720
<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh, he was hilarious. He was really funny

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 6>and a total gentleman, Like he is the type of

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 6>guy that they're calling people onto set, so you know

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 6>you're running with your step he will stop, holl the

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 6>door open for you and make sure you go through.

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 6>Totally nice, like really down to earth. We partied in

0:41:54.719 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 6>Vegas a lot, and I remember we would come through

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 6>at like I think it was like five o'clock in

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 6>the morning and I'd be walking down the Bellaggio, like,

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, we'd be heading back to where we were

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 6>staying at and I'd see Brad at a table and

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 6>like the entire place was empty except for that table,

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 6>and yeah, and I was walking by and Brad would

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 6>be like, hey, Julie. I'd be like, oh hey, I'd

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 6>walk over and we chat a little bit, and then

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 6>I'd leave and I watch everybody's face like who is that?

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 6>Who is that? I mean, it got to the point

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 6>that we felt like wanting to take care of them

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.799
<v Speaker 6>because they were like real people. Sure, but the fan

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:38.240
<v Speaker 6>base was very bizarre.

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm sure. Well what is it like?

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're going from forget sitcom to film, which

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to get into because I know what a

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 2>difference that is. But you're going from working with Disney,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 2>which is known to maybe squeeze a quarter till the

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Eagle screams, to Ocean's eleven, where you're dressing literally some

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 2>of the best looking people in the history of the world.

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 2>What kind of freedom did you have with that budget

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the wardrobe compared to what you

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 2>had on Boyby's World.

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:12.879
<v Speaker 6>Well, for that, I want to say, because I worked

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 6>really close with the supervisor, and she was the one

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 6>who kind of was like, you need to really start supervising,

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:23.600
<v Speaker 6>and I was like, oh no, I love being on set.

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.720
<v Speaker 6>I like working with the Actually like, no, you need

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 6>to start supervising. And so I would stay there with

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 6>her at night doing receipts and most of the paperwork stuff.

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 6>So I got to see like the budget wise, it

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 6>is insane.

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even imagine.

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 6>Everything on that show because Jeffrey Kurlin was a designer

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:47.040
<v Speaker 6>and he knew his down to the tee. Like I

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 6>remember like running down the aisles like during the Vegas scenes,

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 6>and he literally would be like, I'm going to change

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 6>that person's necklace. That person needs ear rings. Yeah, there

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 6>are a few designers that do that, and he is

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.959
<v Speaker 6>one of them. But for him, it's the entire look.

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 6>He made every single thing, like every outfit, every shirt,

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:16.800
<v Speaker 6>Andy Garcia, everything tie, his shirt, his shuit, like everything

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 6>was made down to his shoes. We made him shoes.

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It's so timelessly cool, like when you I love that

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>movie and I still watch it because I teach now

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and I use it in screenwriting class, and it's still

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.439
<v Speaker 1>everybody still looks so stylish, like it's not dated at all,

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, it has this like everyone is just so

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>effortlessly styled and cool. It's an amazing, amazing everyone.

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 6>On that crew. I mean, Sodaberg, he's if you ever

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 6>get a chance to work with him, it is amazing

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 6>to watch. He knows exactly, he doesn't waste any time,

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 6>he knows exactly what he wants, how he wants to shot,

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.760
<v Speaker 6>and it's just done. Like we never waited on the actors.

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 6>They all just came. They all did their stuff like

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 6>nobody was joking around. We were doing seven eight hour days.

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's crazy.

0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 2>That was now, did you what was how big a

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>shift is it going from four camera sitcom to a

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 2>film of that size?

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, was this? It's two different.

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.280
<v Speaker 6>Worlds, right, yeah, completely different worlds?

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Is there one you prefer?

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:26.440
<v Speaker 6>It's so weird though, because I was, I felt like

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 6>after the four camera it seemed such a piece of

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 6>cake compared to everything else. Now, the stuff that we

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 6>did for features, it was it was hard, but you

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 6>had a longer time. You had time to prep it,

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 6>you had time to make it, you know, and you

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.359
<v Speaker 6>had time to dress it, whereas on video or when

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 6>we're doing four camera. It was very quick turnaround. I

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 6>mean we were shopping putting stuff on you within like

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, a couple of days, and then you guys

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 6>were on camera and then having to get approved.

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.479
<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't even know who the guest cast was until

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>like the day.

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we would get like maybe the day before or

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 6>something like that. It's kind of like how they patterned

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 6>the episodics. Episodics are the hardest things I've ever done. Wow,

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 6>because you're prepping a show, wrapping a show, and shooting

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 6>a show all within ten days, right and at the

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:24.479
<v Speaker 6>same time.

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 1>And so this is when you're working on You went

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>on to Nip Tuck, Yeah, Empire Diaries and then some

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad. Don't work on so many different things.

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like some of the coolest shows in the history. Yeah.

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 6>I have been very, very fortunate the people that I

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 6>have been introduced to and have remained really good friends.

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 6>When I started on Nip Tuck, so lou Irick and

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 6>who is the costume designer. She's just amazing. She does

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 6>all of Ryan Murphy's staff, all the Americans, and and

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 6>I adored her and she had this work ethic but

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 6>not only that though, she was so incredibly creative, like

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.760
<v Speaker 6>the things that she would come up with, like she knew.

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 6>But Ryan Murphy, the creator, he was like that, like

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 6>he is the type of man that would call Lou

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 6>up and say, so, I was walking down on fourth

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 6>fifth Avenue in front of oh gosh, what showroom was it?

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 6>And he's like, and I saw this dress, and I

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 6>knew Kimber needed to have this dress. So of course

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 6>we contacted the showroom and everything and found out and

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:43.319
<v Speaker 6>it was like like a five thousand dollars dress. There

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 6>was nothing written in a script, but he was like, no,

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 6>she is going to wear that at some point, so

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:53.319
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's down to the tea. That man is

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 6>so incredibly creative and artistic, like he knew, like down

0:47:57.560 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 6>to the lampshade right exactly how he wants it. And

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, and Lou has a huge like pedigree behind

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 6>her too in terms of the shows that she's been on,

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:13.799
<v Speaker 6>and you know, and it's the details, like she's very

0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:16.840
<v Speaker 6>into like the little details like just the belt could

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 6>completely change an outfit. And she's one of I've been

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 6>fortunate enough all a lot of the costume designers I've

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 6>worked with. She was so incredibly hard working, Like I

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:32.959
<v Speaker 6>couldn't leave without her leaving. So I would just stay

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:34.719
<v Speaker 6>there and I would just keep doing paperwork and we'd

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 6>be there for like fifteen hours and she'd be like,

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 6>you need to go home. I was like, I can't

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 6>leave until you leave, right. But we both loved what

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 6>we did, and that was like one of the things

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 6>that I miss so much that I don't, you know,

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.760
<v Speaker 6>get to do as much. But I love those fifteen

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:54.720
<v Speaker 6>hour days. I love those sixteen hours days. Crazy.

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you've got Breaking Bad, You've got Vampire Diars,

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 2>You've got show after show after show that are just

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the coolest things in the world.

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But I want to get into my world, the world

0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>of the nerd. So what is it like working on

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>the Mandalorian? Please tell me Mandalorian stories.

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 6>I worked with Shauna on Angel, okay, And she had

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 6>also done Firefly, which was like.

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>A great, phenomenal, great show.

0:49:28.360 --> 0:49:32.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and then I had just met her and so

0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 6>she brought me onto Angel. And when I left Angel

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 6>to go do Niptag, and we kept in touch and everything.

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 6>I helped her out here and there, and when she

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:47.800
<v Speaker 6>called me, I was like, are you sure, I don't.

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm not. I'm not. I think I was like one

0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:53.800
<v Speaker 6>of the only person that hadn't seen Star Wars.

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>What no, I have?

0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 6>I have I have, especially when.

0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I when when you're offering a job on a Star

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Wars TV show, the Star Wars TV show, you had

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:08.280
<v Speaker 1>not seen a single Star Wars'.

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 6>I know I had seen I think like Empire Strikes Back.

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 1>It started with the second one, Oh my god, oh too.

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 6>I just remembered, like I was, my cousin's are going

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 6>to go watch it? And my other cousin and I

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 6>were like, no, We're going to stay home and play

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 6>all So they all went. And you know, I've seen

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.959
<v Speaker 6>it like bits and pieces on TV, and I never

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:31.799
<v Speaker 6>watched it from the beginning to end. And I think,

0:50:31.880 --> 0:50:33.720
<v Speaker 6>like five years ago I did.

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Amazing, amazing.

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:40.399
<v Speaker 2>That's got to be a totally different type of costuming, right,

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's so yeah. I mean there's appliances

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and there's helmets and guns, which has got to be

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 2>a whole different thing. I mean, is that just a

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 2>whole different world when you get into kind of the

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:52.240
<v Speaker 2>fantasy sci fi genre.

0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely everything. I mean, I've been in situations where you know,

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 6>everything's made in how you know, or everything's like sent

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:07.720
<v Speaker 6>out and they're all made, you know, clothing wise and everything.

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 6>I've never been in a situation where we actually had

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 6>our entire costume department, like with specialty people making armor,

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.680
<v Speaker 6>and you had the other special and then you had

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 6>like you know, a specialized person who does all the

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 6>aging and dying down to the tee, and you had

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 6>your painters and just human people on set, just the

0:51:30.480 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 6>rotating I think at one point it was I think

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:37.840
<v Speaker 6>just in that warehouse alone, we probably had about forty

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 6>just people in there that I'm constantly just going Okay,

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 6>what is going on? You know, and being thrown into

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.879
<v Speaker 6>that world where they had already done the first Mandalorian,

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 6>they had you know, done Bubba fet they had, you know,

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 6>so they were the crew was amazing, they and they

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.799
<v Speaker 6>were all nerves they have.

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:03.440
<v Speaker 1>And so you must get to the point because like

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I imagine, you know, when you're when you're working on

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 1>something like you know, uh uh Ocean's eleven, you you're

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:12.799
<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with the real world, right, so you know,

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:17.360
<v Speaker 1>like what when you're culturally you're styling towards with something

0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 1>like like Mandalorian, you have to just get to a

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 1>point where you know different like tribes that have been

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:25.480
<v Speaker 1>completely made up, and like do you have to just

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 1>let do you study for that or do you just

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:29.960
<v Speaker 1>absorb it by by being around it? Like, oh, I

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.640
<v Speaker 1>know that people from this planet dressed like this, people

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:34.799
<v Speaker 1>from this is what it looks like. Yeah, exactly, Like

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you just figure that, like or is there like a

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 1>is there a book a bible that you have to study?

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:40.240
<v Speaker 1>How does it works?

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:45.879
<v Speaker 6>It's actually I talked to a lot of the people

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:48.799
<v Speaker 6>who are working there more so than anything else, And

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 6>like Alyssa, who was the A C. D. She is

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 6>a wealth of note. Like everybody who work there excluding myself.

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 6>We're huge, huge like Star Wars, like knew the whole trilogy,

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 6>every everything. So when I stepped into Mandalorian, they basically

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 6>shoot pieces of every episode all at the same time, okay,

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 6>and because it kind of flashes back and forth and

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:19.319
<v Speaker 6>all this stuff. So by the time I came in

0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 6>to help with that, they had already done a lot

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.760
<v Speaker 6>of establishing things. So I was just kind of getting

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 6>caught up, and but I was really there to help

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:33.560
<v Speaker 6>prep and to help start Ahsoka. So That's where my

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 6>training really came in because of all the storm Troopers,

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:42.359
<v Speaker 6>and I mean I was like up watching the cartoons.

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Because Julie Julia their animated series cartoons.

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 6>Sorry apologies, you're right. I had to stay and watch

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 6>the animated series. And as I was breaking down the

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 6>script things that I didn't understand, I would go back

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 6>and and I would I would ask questions. So there's

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:08.959
<v Speaker 6>like this whole down to like where the Stormtroopers came from,

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:10.319
<v Speaker 6>the colors.

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:10.120
<v Speaker 7>The.

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Clones.

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know, did you like, didn't you love the

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 5>animated series though?

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Where the animated series is phenomenally good.

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 6>And it helped explain so much because when you're just

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 6>thrown in it, you're just like, uh what yeah, And also,

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 6>like everybody knew all the verbiage was the one that

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:40.040
<v Speaker 6>I was having a really hard time figuring out. The

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:42.360
<v Speaker 6>the Lickys, the ones with the you know, the ears,

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:47.080
<v Speaker 6>and then all the different animations and how we were

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 6>going to do it, and it was so overwhelming. I

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 6>mean it got to the point where I was dreaming

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 6>it and dreaming like what each clone from each error

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:01.320
<v Speaker 6>and how they evolved and the cold.

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a favorite? Do you have a favorite

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>like style of Star Wars world, like Planet Tribe, person Team.

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what are the different things.

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 6>No, they're all different races, and they each have beauty

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 6>in them. I mean, like my favorite outfits in all

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:26.919
<v Speaker 6>honesty though, I love those red witches. Yeah.

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Cool, you know.

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:33.160
<v Speaker 6>And also it's just there's like this whole history behind

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 6>like when you see one character, but there's like one

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:41.440
<v Speaker 6>little piece because it that he has on or that

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:46.320
<v Speaker 6>they'll have on that actually goes back to like yeah,

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 6>I don't know a three other series history indep and

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:55.919
<v Speaker 6>and a lot of the fan base. I mean they're hardcore.

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing.

0:55:56.560 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 2>If you mess up one night Sister or ven Trists

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:02.759
<v Speaker 2>or anybody, people are going to be like, well that's wrong.

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are you thinking? What did you just do? Yeah?

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's but that's what I mean. You can

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:09.440
<v Speaker 2>really do this with anything. I mean, at the end

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 2>of the day, that you could say the same thing

0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 2>for you know, Jane Austen, for the world of Jane Austin.

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like the language has its own kind of thing.

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:18.919
<v Speaker 2>The costumes is their own thing.

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 1>The every mannerism, it's its own thing. It's a micro world,

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 1>which is what Star Wars is.

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 2>So it's the beauty is Now what do we have

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 2>to do to get you to dress us like stormtroopers

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 2>and put us in something?

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you do? You not throw them on top of

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:45.040
<v Speaker 1>his whole Star Wars stormtroops steal your cigarettes? What else?

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 6>Crazy? Was? We actually had some of the Stormtroopers, the

0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 6>the from the original that were made in London, right,

0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:05.400
<v Speaker 6>they were they were beautifully like they looked beautiful, but

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 6>there were cracks and I'm sure back then they I

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 6>mean to make it look amazing, they weren't.

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 7>They weren't functionable, right, right, just like well I remember

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 7>Carol telling me a story about how for Darth Vader,

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 7>the suit is so clunky that they'd only shoot him

0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 7>from the knees up because there was a guy lying

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 7>down on the ground holding one foot and another guy

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:33.520
<v Speaker 7>lying down on the ground holding the other foot, and

0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.960
<v Speaker 7>they'd rock him into his position. Because because the costumes

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:39.919
<v Speaker 7>are so they weren't functional at all at the time.

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:44.440
<v Speaker 6>They are not functionable at all. So we had actually

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 6>repurposed for the clones, right, We had repurposed, you know,

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 6>some of them and the bits and pieces, and then

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 6>we realized oh my gosh, you can't because there's so

0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 6>much action. So then you have the stunt guys and

0:57:56.680 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 6>every time they got hit and goes. There were so

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 6>many and even you know, like on Mandalorian, like all

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 6>all their jet packs and their helmets to make it functioning,

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 6>you know, they couldn't be made. There was one that

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:19.160
<v Speaker 6>was for on camera and then there's one for actual functioning.

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 6>And I remember on Manda they had this one scene

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 6>where they wanted, oh gosh, I forgot her name because

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 6>everything is kind of a blur right now, but they

0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 6>wanted her to be able to throw her helmet, and

0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 6>they called me. My set people called me, and I

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:39.040
<v Speaker 6>was like, there is no way in hell but you

0:58:39.200 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 6>throw that helmet. I have one picture and I have

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 6>one that looks half that's for stunts, so they can

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 6>do that. But she cannot take off this other one

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 6>and just throw it because it will crack it.

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not Emily. It's not Emily Swallow from the Armor

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>who played the Yeah.

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 6>Got oh, I can't think of her name. I'm horrible.

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:04.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm still the same person. Nothing has changed. I'm horrible

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 6>with names.

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you quit smoking. Hopefully you quit smoking.

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:11.720
<v Speaker 6>I've been like, I know you guys by face and everything,

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 6>but then I start blanking out. It's all menopause. I'd

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 6>blame it on menopause.

0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:20.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, Well, we've had so much fun talking to day.

0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry that Danielle had to bail, but you know,

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:29.080
<v Speaker 5>I guess my big question for you would be looking.

0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Back on your amazing career, which is still going and

0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to say us because we're on right now,

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 2>what's the project that sticks out to you most as

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:40.240
<v Speaker 2>you're like that that right there is the one I

0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 2>want to be remembered for.

0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh.

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:47.280
<v Speaker 6>I don't think there's any project that I would honestly

0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:52.480
<v Speaker 6>say like I would like to be remembered for. For me,

0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 6>every project was special in its own way. But I

0:59:57.200 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 6>would say it would be a tie between boy Mean's

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:07.840
<v Speaker 6>World and Niptock. I grew on in Boyman's World, I

1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:13.960
<v Speaker 6>really did. I kind of came into just being more confident,

1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 6>but and just being okay because even during boy Mean's

1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:23.680
<v Speaker 6>World it was a weird situation. I technically wasn't. I

1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:27.919
<v Speaker 6>didn't have a costume design title. My title was supervisor,

1:00:28.320 --> 1:00:31.960
<v Speaker 6>so I managed all the paperwork. But yet I dictated

1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:35.920
<v Speaker 6>in terms of like shopping and deciding what you guys wore,

1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:38.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, with Michael Jacobs and the rest of the

1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 6>writing crew, creativity wise, not so much. I mean, my

1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 6>hands were pretty tied on certain things, so for me

1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:51.480
<v Speaker 6>it was more about paperwork. But you guys were like

1:00:51.520 --> 1:00:57.040
<v Speaker 6>the first group that I really got to create a

1:00:57.120 --> 1:01:03.040
<v Speaker 6>family with. Yeah, and I only have the best memories,

1:01:03.640 --> 1:01:08.720
<v Speaker 6>especially the finale. Yeah we cry. I mean, there's like

1:01:09.000 --> 1:01:11.760
<v Speaker 6>so many the bear, didn't we we had.

1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:14.920
<v Speaker 2>This yeah, which Danielle did not remember, by the way,

1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:15.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't remember the bear.

1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Do remember that we had a bear on set.

1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Covered in honey and running from a bear And she

1:01:19.720 --> 1:01:21.320
<v Speaker 2>had no memory of it whatsoever.

1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:25.080
<v Speaker 6>I remember it because I remember the guy telling all

1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:28.040
<v Speaker 6>the women like, if you're on if it's that time

1:01:28.040 --> 1:01:31.080
<v Speaker 6>of the month, you can't be on set, He'll come

1:01:31.120 --> 1:01:31.600
<v Speaker 6>after you.

1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Yikes.

1:01:34.920 --> 1:01:37.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, don't you guys are I mean, I oh.

1:01:37.720 --> 1:01:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, no. I mean all of our memories are of

1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:42.720
<v Speaker 1>laughing on set. Literally all we think of, Like when

1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I think about Boy Meets World, more than anything, I

1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:49.360
<v Speaker 1>just think about us laughing together all the time, just

1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:52.240
<v Speaker 1>all the time. It's so it's such a positive memory,

1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and thank you so much for I mean just listening

1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to hear how you stood up for Danielle and you know,

1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:01.800
<v Speaker 1>like that is truly like that is an invaluable thing

1:02:01.840 --> 1:02:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that you did. And I was it was necessary.

1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:07.960
<v Speaker 6>Scared though, Yeah, at that point I was kind of like, Okay,

1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:12.360
<v Speaker 6>fire me because you know. And and thank god for

1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:17.000
<v Speaker 6>Karen too, because she was She was a big advocate

1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:19.480
<v Speaker 6>also and was just like we are not doing this

1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:23.360
<v Speaker 6>and and you guys just made it so much fun.

1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:26.520
<v Speaker 6>I will have to say, like the things that you

1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:29.720
<v Speaker 6>guys did. Yes, sometimes.

1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm so bummed you in North Carolina because I

1:02:32.880 --> 1:02:34.800
<v Speaker 1>just we have to go to dinner, we have to last,

1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:37.200
<v Speaker 1>we have to have like a long three hour meal

1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and catch up. We're in North Carolina.

1:02:41.960 --> 1:02:45.840
<v Speaker 6>I'm actually down in Carolina Beach, so it's down Wilmington.

1:02:46.240 --> 1:02:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, so much. It's so great to see you.

1:02:50.080 --> 1:02:53.120
<v Speaker 6>It was really great seeing you guys too, And and

1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:56.080
<v Speaker 6>I hope everything has been amazing for you guys.

1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you as well, And we're so so happy to

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<v Speaker 2>see you and hopefully we get to see you in

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<v Speaker 2>person and give you a big hug soon.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, you guys, take.

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<v Speaker 1>Care you do by Julie Bye bye bye dude. A

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<v Speaker 1>she looks the same, but b what a career? I know,

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<v Speaker 1>no kidding insane. The second I saw her, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like all the memories come flooding back, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like right, we like she was just.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of our our group, like, and we used to

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<v Speaker 2>go to I mean it would by the end, we

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<v Speaker 2>weren't in our dressing rooms at all.

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<v Speaker 1>We would go hang out. We got set, yeah, be

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<v Speaker 1>at craft service. We'd be in Julie's room. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>once I got out of school, I was never anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>but on set. Right, we were just always hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>and just craft Service Julie's room.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We would just be roaming around, laughing, telling stories. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just constantly making each other laugh. It's just the best.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such a great and vironment much fun. Her

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<v Speaker 1>laugh is the same. It brought me right back. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Well we don't have Danielle. Can we can you do

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<v Speaker 1>the outro? What do we say?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do it because you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>the merch call. Do you want to switch it up?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want me to be the outro and you

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<v Speaker 1>do them merch call? Uh No, because I don't have

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