1 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: So I recently met an old friend started dating this guy, 2 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: and it was one of those experiences that you don't 3 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: have as you get older, where you just like immediately 4 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: bond with somebody. You're like, oh, we're going to be friends, 5 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: We're going to just like and so he and I 6 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: just started. He's a cinematographer and a director and has 7 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: worked in the industry forever, started as a camera operator. Anyway, 8 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: we were like just having that, Like we had two 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: days at a convention and we were just having so 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: much fun talking and at one point he goes, you know, 11 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: I worked with I worked with Will Fredell. And I 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: was like what, and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, And 13 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: he tell me this story. He worked on Go Fish 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: with you. He was a camera operator on Go Fish, 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the show that you did after Okay, he told me 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: the funniest story. He's like, you know, he's like, there 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: was there was a there was a young woman who 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: was a I think she was a stand in or 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: maybe a guest star. And he's like, and there's Will. 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: He's like the handsomest, coolest guy with the teen bead 21 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: hair and everything, and he's asking me for advice. How 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: do I talk to this girl, and he was like 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,279 Speaker 1: it was so adorable. I was like, no, that sounds 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: like Will, that's what he's like. I just remember being like, dude, 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: like you're asking me, I can't help you, like you 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: gotta just talk to her, but to talk to some 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: girl on set and you and he was like just baffled. 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: But he loved it. He was like, yeah, Will and 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: I had a great time. It was so fun to 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: hang out a team. Charles. I actually don't know his 31 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: last name, but yeah, but he was the nicest guy, 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: and like that's good. 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: First of all, we're gonna blow past the fact that 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: you're out there making new friends. 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: I mean, are you surprised? 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: What do you? 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: But it's just it still hurts occasionally. I mean when 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: you realize that we're not enough for you. 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: Oh well no, but you should know that. Because he 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: has the opportunity to hang out with us, and we 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: are on the road, you'd think, well, who else would 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: you hang out with? 43 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: Guess what the answer is almost anyone? 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: Anybody. 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: Anyone else is the answer for writer, anyone else be like, hey, 46 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: you guys, I. 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: Spend a lot of time with you. 48 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: No you don't, yes, I do. Just we're here to 49 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: tell you no, you don't. 50 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guys don't come out with me. I'm always 51 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: like after a show, I'll be like, hey, let's go 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: get a drink, let's go get some food, and you 53 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: guys are like, I'm going to my room, I'm ordering 54 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: in and I'm going to sit thirty. 55 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 4: Hold on, Also, that's not true. We do that when 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: you're like, I'm going out with my friend. You don't 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: even invite us to go along with you. 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: So we go. 59 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 3: Okay, Then I guess Will and I will go to. 60 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: Bed separately, separately. Yeah, that's yeah, I agree. Anyway, I 61 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: thought it was funny to make a kid have a 62 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: story that went back to two thousand Wilfred Dell. I 63 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: was like, that's exactly my friend Will like, you know him, Well, 64 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't talk to girls, And. 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 5: Luckily now I don't have to Susan, which is great. 66 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: Do you find it easy to talk to Susan most 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: of the time? 68 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: A lot of times he has to call me and 69 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: be like, how do I talk to her? Will? Come on? 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to go on a date with me. I'm 71 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: still convinced. 72 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: I just like to let her know that, you know, 73 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: I try to keep her down as much as possible 74 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: because if she finds out that she can do better 75 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: than me, which she can, I'm screwed right, She's out. 76 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: So I just try to make her feel like, you know, 77 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 2: this is the best you can do, knowing full well 78 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: she could throw a stone. 79 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: And hits somebody better than me. 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, hopefully she did marry you though, So that's 81 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: a good sign. 82 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. It's usually a good sign that 83 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: it can work, that it will work out. So that's good. 84 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: Welcome to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel. 85 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm right or strong, and I just don't know how 86 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: to talk to her. So if I mean do I 87 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: just go, I'm will. 88 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: This past month, a TikTok video from creator Nicole's story 89 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: Dent went viral where she was walking through her local 90 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: department store and noticed something very familiar. The mannequins displayed 91 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 4: on the floor were wearing outfits that looked almost exactly 92 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: like clothing scene on Boy Meets World, Sean Corey. 93 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: Mister Feeney, even Minkis. 94 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: She matched the looks with screenshots from the show, and 95 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 4: it was mind blowing. 96 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: Now is then? 97 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 6: Then? 98 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: Is now? We are all connected. That's right. Thirty years later, time. 99 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 4: Is a flat circle, and now it appears our classic 100 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: nineties wardrobe is again in style and being marketed to 101 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: young kids and adults prepping for spring. 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: How does that happen? 103 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 4: How do short sleeve shirts on top of long sleeve 104 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: shirts and sweater vests with military style, fuzzy collared jackets 105 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: and wool professor blazers find themselves available in twenty twenty 106 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: six decades later. That's the work of a good costumer. 107 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 4: A few seasons back, we talked to the great Sarah Moskowitz, 108 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: who was a driving force and getting us out of 109 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 4: those XXL shirts and into clothes that actually fit. 110 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: But from seasons three. 111 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: Through seven there was another name we remembered fondly, and 112 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: that is this week's guest. 113 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: Young enough to be a part of our crew. 114 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 4: She came from the world of Martin Lawrence, working on 115 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 4: his stylistically forward sitcom and movies, and then joined us 116 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: and stayed through the finale. 117 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 3: And since those. 118 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: Days her resume is chock full of projects cooler than 119 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: Boy Meets World. We've got Vampire Diaries, Breaking Bad Ocean's 120 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 4: eleven American horror story and recently a show that earned 121 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 4: her an Emmy nomination, Star Wars the Mandalorian. How she 122 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: was unable to get us cast as Stormtroopers we will 123 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 4: never know. And so now we are excited to welcome 124 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: a crew FA favorite to Pod Meets World. The reason 125 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 4: our costumes are now years later hip with the kids. 126 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: It's Julie Yang Silver, Julie. 127 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: Are you there? 128 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 6: Yes? Well not? 129 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so good to see you. 130 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you so much for being here. 131 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: You have not changed a single. 132 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: Day, the same everybody. 133 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, get you guys. Hi, We're so now. 134 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 6: Oh it's been like twenty five years. 135 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't think I've seen you since 136 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: the show ended, right. 137 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: Like, no, so twenty six years ninety nine. Really, I 138 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: mean the show own off in two thousand. But oh 139 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: my god, we are so happy to see you. And 140 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 4: I want you to know, like ninety five percent of 141 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 4: our memories of you involved the idea that you were 142 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: very very cool. So will you please set the record straight? 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: Were you very cool? 144 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 6: I was very cool. I got so to your age. 145 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 6: I thought you guys were amazing, And I mean there's 146 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 6: a whole story behind it. I mean I look back 147 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 6: now and I'm like, holy crap, I was twenty six, yeah, 148 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 6: which is so weird because it felt like I was 149 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 6: so much older, you know, and you guys really weren't. 150 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 6: I mean, I wasn't that much older than you nothing, 151 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 6: you Will. 152 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Wait, so you were twenty six when you started or 153 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: when you finished? 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 6: No, I think I was. I was twenty six when 155 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 6: I started, because I think it was yeah in ninety. 156 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: You started in like ninety six. Yeah, yeah, wow you 157 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: I mean. 158 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: I was, I'm not that much older. No, So I 159 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: was sixteen then, and Will would have been. 160 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: Like what. 161 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: One? Yeah like that? 162 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god, so funny. 163 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: It was one of the first things I said when 164 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: we were talking about having you on and Jensen was 165 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: asking about, you know, things that we remember, and I said, 166 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: more than any other crew member, it felt like you 167 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: were just our age. 168 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, Julie, you must have been the youngest 169 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: crew member then, right. 170 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 6: I was. I don't know if you guys recall, but 171 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 6: I went and got my US citizenship and I went 172 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 6: to night. It was on a Friday night we were taping, 173 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 6: and I went and got sworn in, and then I 174 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 6: came back to the show and we were just started 175 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 6: and I was like, yeah, I'm legit, and I had 176 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 6: like my little thing. They put me on camera and 177 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 6: I was like, this is so weird. 178 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: That's right. 179 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: So it would have been a Thursday night because we 180 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: taped on Thursdays. 181 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 6: That's right, it would have been a Thursday night. But 182 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 6: I just remember it was the best time with you guys. 183 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really so much fun. Another thing I 184 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 4: have to talk to you about because again I've been 185 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 4: so excited to have you on, and we have talked 186 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: so much on our podcast, so much about Will and 187 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: I smoking. I think I'm now at the ripe old 188 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: age of forty four. I think I'm old enough to 189 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: admit to my mother the very first cigarette I ever 190 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: had was when I stole from Julie. 191 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: Corrupting the youth. 192 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: She had a pack of smokes, like in her bag 193 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, were you was it Marlboro 194 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 4: reds lights lights? 195 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? 196 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 6: I going out with Will and would be like outside, 197 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 6: be like all. 198 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, and you were like away from your bag, 199 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: and I think you knew. 200 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: I think you kind of. 201 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: Knew I was stealing cigarettes from you, and you were 202 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: just like, I'm not going to pay any attention to this. 203 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: But I. 204 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: My first cigarette I ever had was one I stole 205 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: out of your bag and then smoked alone, like. 206 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 3: A weirdo who had the first cigarette? 207 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: Like, but what they steal and then smokes alone like 208 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 4: a total weirdo. 209 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: But I did, just I have. 210 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: I have thought of you many a times over the years. 211 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: When you wake up in the morning coughing. 212 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: Julian Bright. 213 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 6: It was so weird because I saw you had changed 214 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 6: your last name, and so I sent you know, and 215 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 6: it it's the message. I think it was like two 216 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 6: or three years ago. And then when this whole thing 217 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 6: came up, I saw you responded you were like, oh 218 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 6: my god, I never. 219 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: Saw this so funny on Instagram. 220 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 6: I don't remember. 221 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,479 Speaker 3: Okay, well I just wrote to you on Facebook. 222 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. Mine was on Facebook. 223 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, because when we when we talked about wanting 224 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 4: to have you on I said, let me see if 225 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: I can find her on Facebook. And then I found 226 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: you on Facebook and saw your message and was like, hey, 227 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: just seeing. 228 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: This, oh, which was the truth. 229 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: Danielle's got a history of maybe not seeing messages so 230 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: much on Facebook. 231 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 3: I know, we are so happy to have you here. 232 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 3: I have to know. 233 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 4: I want to jump into how what is your costuming 234 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: origin story? What did how did you get the job 235 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: on Boy Meets World? Was Boy Meets World's your first job? 236 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: How did you start at such a young age? 237 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 6: Okay, so I did go to a fashion school for 238 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 6: like a year. I couldn't afford it, and I ended 239 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 6: up just I was going to merchandise marketing and I 240 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 6: was at FIDM. Couldn't afford my second year. So then 241 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, well, I'm just going to keep 242 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 6: working in the industry. Cut to a couple of years later. 243 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 6: I was dating this guy who was a stage manager 244 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 6: and the company I worked for went under, and so 245 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 6: he was like, Hey, do me a favor. Can you 246 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 6: bring me this, you know, this thing that I left 247 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 6: at my house? And I was like, yeah, sure, no problem. 248 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 6: So I go and I'd drop it off and he 249 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 6: introduced it was back in the Oh my gosh, the 250 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 6: Power Ranger Error the entertainment. So it was a show 251 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 6: called Tattoo Teenage Alien Fighters from Beverly Hills Show. 252 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: Awesome show. 253 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 6: I ended up meeting the designer there and Eddie Castro, 254 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 6: who was phenomenal, and him and I just kind of 255 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 6: hit it on and he was super great and he 256 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 6: was like, oh, will you come help me on something? 257 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 6: And I was like yeah, sure, you know, and he's like, 258 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 6: i'll pay you one hundred dollars. And at that time 259 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 6: I wasn't working. I was actually helping out in my parents' restaurant, 260 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 6: and so I was like sure. Come to find out, 261 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 6: it was like sixteen hours. 262 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: Oh for one hundred dollars. 263 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 6: One hundred bucks. But I had the best time I 264 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 6: and it was like a commercial, so there was like 265 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 6: food galore catering. I was like sucked in by the 266 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 6: food and I thought, oh, well that's like. 267 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: Fun craft service. How they get you out, how they 268 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: get you out. 269 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 6: So they totally did. So it went really quick. I 270 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 6: was really lucky got started with him, and within about 271 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: a year I got into the Union amazing, and I 272 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 6: was working for an actor that I decided not to 273 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 6: go back to work with him, and my friend Eddie 274 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 6: calls me up and he was like, Hey, they're looking for, 275 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 6: you know, like a supervisor slash designer on this kid 276 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 6: show called Boy Meet's World. I'm like, you've got to 277 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 6: be me, Like, I haven't done this for very long. 278 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 6: I've liked supervised. I've been doing this for maybe two years, pops, 279 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 6: and he was like, no, I think you should go 280 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 6: do it. So we did a whole board and everything. 281 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 6: And I was so nervous. 282 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh so you had you had to kind of audition, 283 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ideas of Oh that's so cool. 284 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I had to kind of you know, And 285 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 6: so I came in and met with Michael Jacobs and 286 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 6: I was completely nervous, and I was thinking, there's no way, 287 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 6: you know. I mean, I remember at that time I 288 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 6: even had I had cut my hair short because I 289 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 6: looked so young and nobody was taking me seriously. And 290 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 6: so I went in and Michael was like, yeah, okay, 291 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 6: and he had, you know, very strong ideas about what 292 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 6: he wanted you guys to be in, yeah, and everything. 293 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 6: So I was like, okay, it's you know, I get 294 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 6: to go shop, you know, I think I can do 295 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 6: this and lo and behold, you know I did, and 296 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 6: he hired me. And I was like, why in the 297 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 6: world did he hire me? Like I had hardly anything 298 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 6: on my resume, let alone even design. You know, I 299 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 6: don't even I don't have that creative creative like because 300 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 6: most designers are like kind of crazy. 301 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: But but the ary is that you're trying to look 302 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: older by cutting your hair. But the reality but you 303 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: being younger was probably an asset. 304 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 6: It was, it was, and I think, like I think, 305 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 6: like a year into it, I remember asking Michael. I 306 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 6: was like, why did you hire me? He was like, well, 307 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 6: I figured, you know, if I didn't like what you did, 308 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 6: I just fire you. 309 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah that's about right. 310 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all right. 311 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, how far we get too into our time on 312 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 4: Boy Meets World. I got very into the look of 313 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: the Beverly Hills alien fighters when I was doing some 314 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: research on you and Will and writer. I would like 315 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: for you to take a look at some of these 316 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: and Julie, could you please tell us the inside story 317 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: on some of these costumes. 318 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: Let's go to the picture. 319 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, oh my, yes, yes, these are the 320 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 6: tattoo teenagers from Beverly Hills. 321 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, aliens. Yes. 322 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 6: Okay, so I was helping. I actually didn't design that. 323 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 6: That was from Eddie was designing it. Wow. 324 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: Okay. 325 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. That was like back in the days of like 326 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 6: the power ranges, anything that was like fitted that showed 327 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 6: off everything and it was kind of great. 328 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 4: So for our dear listeners who maybe don't see this 329 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: right away. It is lay text, just skin tex, skin 330 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: tight lateext with arm muscles like glistening. But the the 331 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: like body oil glow is also all over the latex, 332 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: so it's just like and then there's masks. Are they 333 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: also Latex masks? 334 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 6: They were kind of Latex masks, but that stuff gets 335 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 6: really like ye to eat, eat and hot, so they 336 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 6: had to make it so it was more like something 337 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 6: they can just pull over and we put the latex 338 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 6: over that to help fit it. 339 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 340 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 6: I mean in those days, it was like you suffered, 341 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 6: you sucked it up, and you just did. 342 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: Now were any of these looks on your vision board? 343 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: For I can see shine, and I can see. 344 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: Matt Lawrence could have pulled off some latex. He could 345 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: have It would have been great. 346 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 6: I think I would pitch for Cory, you know, but. 347 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: I can see that funny. 348 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: Do you remember what you pitched? Do you remember what 349 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: your your board looked like? 350 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 6: My gosh, it was very he wanted. I mean it 351 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 6: was back in the whole, you know, t g I. 352 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 6: So it was all about wholesome, very down to earth. 353 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 6: I mean, you guys were like the next like happy days. Yeah, 354 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 6: really normal, you know, Midwest, like everybody wanted to be you. 355 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 6: So that was what the idea of Disney was doing. 356 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you get Boy Meets World, Michael hires you 357 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: because worst case scenario, he's going to fire you. 358 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 6: I kept thinking for like, I want to say, the 359 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 6: first three months, I was like, he's going to fire me, right. 360 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: I'm not going this job. I'm not the rest of 361 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: the time. 362 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my gosh, that's unbelievable. When did you then 363 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: start working with the Red Hot Martin Lawrence? 364 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 6: That was when I first It was the same thing 365 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 6: with Eddie. He called me up and he was like, Hey, 366 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 6: I'm doing this little showtime thing, come do it with me. 367 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 6: And I was like, oh okay, and so I went. 368 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 6: We were like out in the desert and stuff like that. 369 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 6: So then that finished and then he was like, oh, 370 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 6: I'm doing this other you know show, and that show 371 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 6: was the one that turned union and I got in 372 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 6: the union. But it was literally just Eddie, me and 373 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 6: I think I hired. I hired my friend who I 374 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 6: ended up firing because show up one day. It was 375 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 6: like back in the days, like you did everything. I mean, 376 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 6: I think at one point. I even we had a 377 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 6: pool scene and I the wind was blowing and the 378 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 6: actress was on a raft and I actually got in 379 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 6: the water with a straw to hold her in place 380 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 6: because I was the smallest one and I fit underneath. Gosh, 381 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 6: it was a fun It was a fun show. I 382 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 6: think I even have a little can in it. No, 383 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 6: he was that it was. It was really funny. I 384 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 6: had my headset on and they were like, you're gonna 385 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 6: be one of the go go dancers at the club. 386 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 6: So they harnessed me up high and I'm on my 387 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 6: walkie and I'm like telling people like no, no, no, no, 388 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 6: get his outfit off, get his hat off. So there's 389 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 6: like a really quick shot. I haven't seen it. I 390 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 6: think I decided to blur that away. I was like 391 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 6: twenty four years old. 392 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff too, Julie, we blur a lot 393 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: of stuff. Sure, don't worry about it. 394 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 4: So you you did all of that before you joined 395 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: Boy Meets World. 396 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 6: Yes, And then from there I went to uh work 397 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 6: on his TV show, and then I did nothing to 398 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 6: lose with him and Tim Robbins, who I love. Tim 399 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 6: was fabulous. 400 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: Oh great, I think one of the kind of underrated 401 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 2: films of the nineties. 402 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: I'm not joking. This film, Oh Nothing to Lose is 403 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: so great. 404 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: So Martin Lawrence, he plays a carjacker who Tim Robbins 405 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: comes home and he finds he sees his wife Kelly Preston, 406 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: having an affair, and he just walks out of the 407 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: house and he drives and he gets carjacked by Martin 408 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: Lawrence and he looks at him and he just goes, man, 409 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: did you pick the wrong guy and on the wrong day, 410 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: and just takes off with the carjacker in the car. 411 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 2: And it's the adventure that they then have together, and 412 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: it is just so it's Oda Kirk. 413 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: It's uh yeah Kirk. No, not Bob, Steve Steve Kirk. 414 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Julie. I hate to do this. 415 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 4: I am on the road touring with the Dancing with 416 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: the Stars tour. So I'm gonna hop off because I 417 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 4: have the bus is waiting for me downstairs to head 418 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: to the venue. The guys are going to finish the 419 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: interview with you. 420 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 3: We need to catch up. 421 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: Even if we can't see each other face to face 422 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: for a while, we need to catch up. I'd love 423 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: to talk to you over the phone, so I'm so 424 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: mad that I have to miss the rest of this interview. 425 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: But to go about Ryan and I are going to 426 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: do a much interview question why I want to keep. 427 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: Talking about Martin because at the time this show was 428 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: like a cultural phenomenon, the Martin Lawrence Show. And one 429 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: of the reasons I think was because of the look 430 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: of the show that there was a even the the 431 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 2: the opening title sequence, there's kind of pastel looks and 432 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: there was a vibe to Martin. And how much of 433 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: that did you contribute to when it came to the 434 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: look of the characters. 435 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 6: Honestly, I personally did not, but because my job was 436 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 6: just to take care of him, I worked with him 437 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 6: on a thin line between love and hate. That's the 438 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 6: show that ended up going union. I mean the day 439 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 6: we turn Union, I think the gangs we were shoe 440 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 6: in a very bad area and there was a truce 441 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 6: call between I think the Crips and the Blood for 442 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 6: us to be able to film there, and then we 443 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 6: had a bunch of delays and health issues that Martin 444 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 6: went through, and they the Crips and Blood got really 445 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 6: kind of pissed and basically said they gave us, like 446 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 6: I think like a time frame. And the day that 447 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 6: we striked to turn Union Are, the neighbors all came 448 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 6: out and they were like, you guys need to get 449 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 6: out before sundown because they're going to start taking potshots 450 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 6: at you. I mean literally, the producers came by. I 451 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 6: were like grabbing the stuff, and the producers like yelling 452 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 6: at me, get in your car and leave. And I 453 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 6: was like, but there's still some clothes. I got to 454 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 6: get the dressing, the set dressing. You was like, get 455 00:23:54,040 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 6: in your car and leave now, and oh, yeah, it was. 456 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 6: We didn't realize that because we had this huge cast 457 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 6: like Bobby Brown and you know, obviously Martin, and it was. 458 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 6: It was a fabulous show. But we had several delays 459 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 6: and they did not want us there. They did not 460 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 6: want us in that neighborhood, and they wanted us out. 461 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 6: So then after that, that's when I went to go 462 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 6: work on Martin and I basically just took care of him. 463 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 6: I made sure that, you know, everything that he needed. 464 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 6: I don't know about you guys, but I mean actors 465 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 6: have they do have a lot of say in the 466 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 6: colors and you know what fits. I mean, obviously it's 467 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 6: a collaborated effort, but you guys do have quite a 468 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 6: bit of influence. 469 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: Well it's funny because I don't think we thought we 470 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: did back on boybats the world, Like I feel like 471 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: we like Will and I definitely did not have any 472 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: taste or opinions. So was that a good thing for 473 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: you or did you do like you do? You remember 474 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: like dressing us and just telling us what to wear? 475 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: What was your relationship? 476 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: I remember dressing you guys and telling you guys what 477 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 6: to wear. I also remember at different parts I was like, 478 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 6: is there something different, like how do you feel about 479 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 6: this character? And we all would just be like, eh, miswetter, 480 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 6: you know, that's pretty much it. 481 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: And then. 482 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 6: For you it was more of like oh another T shirt, okay, 483 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 6: with another thing. It was like, you know, we kind 484 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 6: of went through the little more eclectic trying to make 485 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 6: you a little more you know, fool and and Will 486 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 6: was just like sweaters and regular button down shirts and 487 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 6: you know, so it was we could not go too 488 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 6: far out. I mean we were really dictated a lot 489 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 6: by that wholesome yeah, right. 490 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: Right, So was it creatively satisfying at all or was 491 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: it just sort of like a fun job, you know, 492 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: in terms of being able to the set and the dynamics. 493 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 6: It was a fun job. There were times that do 494 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 6: you guys remember what was that episode that we did 495 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 6: with like World War two? 496 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, like. 497 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 6: That was a lot of fun. 498 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah right. 499 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: We did have a couple kind of out of when 500 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: you were there, a couple out of the box ones. 501 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: We did the black and white one, like the Casablanca one. Yeah, 502 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: and we did the fifties. Were you there for the 503 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: fifties one? Or did you came you came after the 504 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: fifties one? 505 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 6: I came after the fifties one. 506 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: And you did the World War two? So you did 507 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: the forties and then yeah, okay. 508 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: It was we did, and especially for my character, there 509 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: was a lot of times where there put me in 510 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: some pretty weird like we just watched the Honeymoon episode 511 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: where I'm a coconut at one point, and so that 512 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: was that must have been an interesting especially by season 513 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 2: six and seven, to get a script and it's like, oh, 514 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: Will's a tree, Will's a couch, Will's. 515 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 6: Well, it was kind of like if they were going 516 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 6: to make anybody anything, it was going to be well 517 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 6: right right, yeah right, so I know, I know, and 518 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 6: it's also a very you know within like what that 519 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 6: five years? Four years? It was hard to keep going. 520 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 6: I mean, you guys were growing up, right, you know, 521 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 6: started to actually really find your own identity and what 522 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 6: you liked and you know, and but we still had 523 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 6: to keep your character the same. But you guys had 524 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 6: all grown out. 525 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: Of that, right, right, So do you remember watching us 526 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: go through awful adolescents and awkward faces? I mean, because 527 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: it's so funny because in my mind I thought of 528 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: you as somewhat of a contemporary like you. But I've 529 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: listened to so I mean here I was like seventeen 530 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: talking to you, like, I mean, do you do you remember? 531 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: What do you remember about us personally? Like having to 532 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: listen to our dumb love life problems or what was it? 533 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: Like? 534 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 6: No, I remember Will when you were dating Jennifer and 535 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 6: we went through that, oh gosh. And I remember when 536 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 6: Matthew came in and you guys would to that. 537 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: Singing dancing in front of the audience. 538 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, uh huh. And then you know, and I remember 539 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 6: for a writer, like when Trina came along. She was 540 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 6: so much older and having that kind of dynamic and 541 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 6: it was just like wow, he's you know, and you 542 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 6: did it beautifully. I think the most that I remember 543 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 6: was more for Danielle because she was you know, and 544 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 6: I related more to her just because she was a 545 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 6: female and a young teenager growing up and and society 546 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 6: and oh my gosh, there were so many discussions, heated discussions. 547 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: About her wardrobe or yes. 548 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 6: Ye, and that Karen the producer, Karen Machine. Yeah, she 549 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 6: was a huge Danielle advocate and her not. She would 550 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 6: me up and we would go against Michael and he 551 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 6: would just be like, well, no, I don't like. I 552 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 6: was like, you're never going to open your mouth and 553 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 6: ever say something like that again. We will take care 554 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 6: of it. We will. It's like, you know, there's this 555 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 6: whole like image, right and how people looked and on 556 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 6: camera it does add weight, you know, and when you're 557 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 6: of short stature and definitely things change, and so it 558 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 6: that part we had a tiptoe. 559 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that because one of 560 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: the things Danielle talked about, and I'm sure she would 561 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: have brought it up if she was not doing awesome 562 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: things with amazing people around the world instead of us. 563 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: We don't hold a grudge, if you know, obviously, I 564 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: put on a bunch of weight towards the end. Danielle 565 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: put on a little bit of weight towards the end, 566 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: But of course it was all about how she put 567 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: on so much weight. And one of the things she 568 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: talked about was during the wedding episode. Specifically, she remembers 569 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: that she was allowed to quote on quote, helped pick 570 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: the dress, but none of them were allowed to be sleeveless. Yeah, 571 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: and she thinks that one of the reasons that that 572 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: was is because certain powers that be thought that she 573 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: looked too heavy to show her arms bare. 574 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: Is that, in fact what happened, Yes, it is, so 575 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: you were just constantly having conversations about I was. 576 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 6: Yes, it was constant conversation. And the thing was, Danielle 577 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: was not heavy. No, no, my god, That's what I 578 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 6: was trying to explain to them. I was like, she 579 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 6: is still a size too, Like, I don't know what 580 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 6: you guys are talking about, but because of her stature, 581 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 6: and they were so used to seeing because she bloomed overnight. 582 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: I think by the time when I started, she had 583 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 6: grown outwards and. 584 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: She wasn't eleven anymore. That's what happens. 585 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,239 Speaker 6: Exactly, But that was the thing though, was that you know, 586 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 6: Danielle's not very tall, so if you are bustier and 587 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 6: you're not very tall, you're going to look larger, right, 588 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 6: And but she wasn't, like you guys saw her every 589 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 6: single day. She was not large at all. 590 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. We talked about it. 591 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: She put on probably she said like maybe eight pounds, 592 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: nine pounds. 593 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: I put on thirty. 594 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 6: Well nobody really cared, that's right, it's nobody. 595 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: That was the thing that was so amazing. That's the 596 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: double standard, right, talk. 597 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: About my my weight gain and changing my clothes or 598 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: they were just like they don't care. 599 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: They don't care at all. Yeah, let him go be funny, 600 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: he'll put on a bigger shirt. We're fine, exactly. 601 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: But Danielle, there were conversation after conversation about wow. 602 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 6: I remember specifically, oh, and then like trying to hide 603 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 6: Trina's pregnancy. But you guys remember the episode. 604 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: The which one the prom Oh yeah yeah, sure. 605 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 6: Okay, so Trina is like seven months pregnant, so you know, 606 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 6: so we're trying to hide that. And and it was 607 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 6: the same thing for Danielle where she needed sleeves and 608 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 6: I was like, no, that's going to look ridiculous for 609 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 6: prom like, absolutely ridiculous. So we ended up, you know, 610 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 6: we did a shawl and I remember Karen and I 611 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 6: we really went up to bat for that one, and 612 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 6: we I think Karen and I mostly Karen too, was 613 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 6: just like, you will never ever, we don't want to 614 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: ever hear anybody say anything to Danielle about this. 615 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: Right, Okay. I was going to ask, does she have 616 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: any was she aware we discussions? 617 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 6: I think she knew, but we really tried to like 618 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 6: hide that from her in terms of because you know, 619 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 6: she's a teenager, like that's going to get in her head. 620 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 6: And that was the thing that Karen and I were 621 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 6: both saying, was that she is a young woman and 622 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 6: that could do so much psychological damage. This is so 623 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 6: not worth it, right. 624 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: You know. 625 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 6: So we were treading very very lightly, and yeah, there 626 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 6: were some and I'm sure you know, Danielle knew, and 627 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 6: you know, because I remember there were times when she would, 628 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 6: you know, we would do sweaters and she would be like, 629 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 6: I look so huge in this, and I was like, honey, 630 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 6: that is an extra small yeah right, yeah, you know, 631 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 6: and it's it was just being on camera like back then, like, 632 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 6: we videotaped it, so it really did add more in 633 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 6: with a certain camera angles and stuff. You know, it 634 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 6: just made her look more compact. Yeah, but when you 635 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 6: saw her in person, she was not even remotely close. 636 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: No, we just watched the Honeymoon episode and one of 637 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: the things we talked about was the fact that she 638 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: comes out in a negligee. She's kind of naked under 639 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: the under the cover she's doing all this, and I said, 640 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: I was like, how four or five episodes from now 641 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: we do an episode about how you've put on so 642 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: much weight? I mean again, at that point, I was 643 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: used to it so and I was a guy and 644 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 2: I was funny, so it didn't matter. But as America's sweetheart, 645 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: it was one of those things where we looked at 646 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 2: her and it was like, how how could they look 647 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: at what you look like there and be like, we 648 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 2: got to do an episode about how you've put on weight? 649 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: Like written, what how we're seeing the same thing. 650 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: But that's also, I will say, to your credit, that's 651 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: also where being closer to our age than almost anybody 652 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: else on the set that we were. 653 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean that. 654 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: You there were pas and people on the set like 655 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: that were closer our age, but you don't really spend 656 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: a lot of time with them, and it's not as 657 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 2: intimate a relationship as somebody who's dressing you and we're 658 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: doing fittings and you're doing and your room at the 659 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: time became like our therapy place. 660 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: This is a cool hangout spot. We would go and 661 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: hang out with you. You and I would go smoke. 662 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: I remember you mentioned love, and when I broke up 663 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: with love, I remember you wouldn't you like to help 664 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: me through that? I mean, it was that was one 665 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: of those things where we just we hung out. We 666 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: all hung out, and so it was when we were 667 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 2: putting on way, breaking up with girlfriends, doing all that stuff, that's. 668 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: We came to you. That was like the room where 669 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: we hung out. 670 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 6: That you guys are one of the main reasons why 671 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 6: I loved doing what I did in all honesty, like 672 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 6: I loved that family feel and everything, but I also 673 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 6: tried to really make it so like I never you know, 674 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 6: I didn't go out and party with you guys, or 675 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 6: because I knew that you guys would be going out afterwards, 676 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 6: and I'd be like, oh no, I think that's super 677 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 6: crossing the line. And then but I was still just like, okay, 678 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 6: you know, whatever you guys needed, I would be there. 679 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 6: I mean, writer you were talking about, you know, going 680 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 6: through that transition and everything and watching you guys grow up, 681 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 6: Like watching you guys like throw your clothes on top 682 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 6: of the closet when you're done, and we're trying to 683 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 6: like jump up there to get your you know. By 684 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 6: the end, I think they finally like begged you, like 685 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 6: please write or just and you would just like okay, 686 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 6: you would fold him and then put them on the thing. 687 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 6: Then then we finally got him to just at least 688 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 6: throw it on the floor. It was Yeah, it became 689 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 6: like this game all of a sudden, and poor Cheryl, 690 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 6: who was taking care of you guys, was just like, 691 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 6: that's right, I need I need a step stool because 692 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 6: they keep throwing it on top they keep throwing on 693 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 6: top of their closet. 694 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I remember specifically being like I had 695 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: to hang up my clothes, like I remember being taught like, 696 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: and so by the time I was like seventeen eighteen, 697 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm gonna hang out. But I 698 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: also very specifically remember it being like a game where 699 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: Ben would throw his shirts off. Yeah, throw them as 700 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: far as he could. Yes, Oh my god, Oh, just 701 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 1: to piss you guys off. I feel like, well, and. 702 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 6: Cheryl loved Ben, so she would have done anything. And 703 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 6: I would be like, do I need to talk to him? 704 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 6: And she's like, no, no, no, he's just being a boy. 705 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 706 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: No. 707 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: There's one other word we've heard quite a bit on 708 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 2: this podcast, and I think it's the same word writer's 709 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 2: going to say. 710 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 5: Yep. 711 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: So let's say at the same time rider one, two 712 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: three tank Hank does this ring? Is this ring a 713 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: bell for Morgan? 714 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah? 715 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: So we just watched the episode and it's where Lindsay Ridgeway, 716 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: who was playing Morgan, goes on their first date at thirteen, right, 717 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: And there's a whole scene where her dad Alan Rusty, 718 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: freaks out about the fact that she's wearing a tankini. 719 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: And we had Lindsay on the podcast and this was 720 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: like one of her core memories from doing the show. 721 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: Do you remember this at all or I remember. 722 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 6: Bits and pieces. I just remember what was the big deal? 723 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 5: Right? It was? 724 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 6: It was made to be such a big deal. And 725 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 6: and Lindsay plays younger than she really is, right, So 726 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 6: she was just like what you know, and my whole 727 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 6: thing was, like in any of that stuff, was just 728 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 6: to make sure you guys are comfortable in it. And 729 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 6: if you're not comfortable in it, I will go up 730 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 6: to bat right. And I don't recall, I mean refresh 731 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 6: my memory, what did lindsay say about it? 732 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: She just was somewhat traumatized by having to wear something 733 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: so scantily clad, you know, because it's like a weird 734 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: tank top belly showing thing that I don't know if 735 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: we invented the tanking or if the but it was 736 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: it was in the script, so then yeah, you know 737 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: there she just remembers there being a lot of discussion about, 738 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, how scantily claud she was going to look, 739 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: and much how much to show, how much to make Yeah, 740 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: because you know, the story point is that she's dressed 741 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 1: too sexy for her dad, but of course she's still 742 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: actually very much a little girl. And yeah, so she 743 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: just remembers having to wear this, you know, very feeling. 744 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 6: We had to shorten the top because most tankinis they're 745 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 6: like one piece, not one piece, but the top is 746 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 6: goes all the way down to your waist and then 747 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 6: you have the bottoms I think we had to shorten them. 748 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 6: I mean it was I would say it was probably 749 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 6: hardest for Lindsey just because you're in front of a camera. 750 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 6: You know, you're showing off everything. She's a teenager too, right, 751 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 6: you know, she's growing up. So I don't know, maybe 752 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 6: I just blocked it all out of my mind, any 753 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 6: of the trauma of like things that I had to 754 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,280 Speaker 6: put you guys through. 755 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: Right, all right, So after you leave Boy Meets World 756 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: and and then you downgrade to a movie called Ocean's Eleven. 757 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: With arguably the ugliest cast just in the history of Hollywood. 758 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: So tell us about that. You worked on Ocean's Eleven, 759 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: I did. It's a crazy scene to be a part. 760 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: Oh my, tell us about it. 761 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 6: It was. It was so much fun. I have never 762 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 6: like that crew was like clockwork, like we were doing 763 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 6: seven hour days. Call seriously, because he knew exactly how 764 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 6: he wanted to shoot it and operated the camera. It 765 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 6: was just and the entire cast, seriously, they I think 766 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 6: they only each got like one perk. So to do that, 767 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 6: to do that movie, that means like you know, like 768 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 6: I mean, you get stars like George Clooney and Julie Roberts, 769 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 6: you know, like Brad Pitt, they usually have like their 770 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 6: own hair, makeups. 771 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 2: There, you know, personal assistance trailers, yeah. 772 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 6: Tons of stuff, but they each only picked one thing, 773 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 6: and I think was it. George had his hairstylists wald 774 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 6: I think was his name really Waldo, because we were 775 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 6: always like, where's Waldo? I think Matt Matt had brought 776 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 6: his own chef Brad. Brad had his own makeup artist 777 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 6: who also did his hair. I think she did his hair. 778 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 6: But they were all like I was. I was thinking, like, 779 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 6: oh my gosh, we're going to be around a bunch. 780 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: Of like diva. 781 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 6: So much fun. Don Cheetle. I love him to death, 782 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 6: you know, but you can also and like Brad Pitt, 783 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, he was hilarious. He was really funny 784 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 6: and a total gentleman, Like he is the type of 785 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 6: guy that they're calling people onto set, so you know 786 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 6: you're running with your step he will stop, holl the 787 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 6: door open for you and make sure you go through. 788 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 6: Totally nice, like really down to earth. We partied in 789 00:41:54,719 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 6: Vegas a lot, and I remember we would come through 790 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 6: at like I think it was like five o'clock in 791 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 6: the morning and I'd be walking down the Bellaggio, like, 792 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 6: you know, we'd be heading back to where we were 793 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 6: staying at and I'd see Brad at a table and 794 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 6: like the entire place was empty except for that table, 795 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 6: and yeah, and I was walking by and Brad would 796 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 6: be like, hey, Julie. I'd be like, oh hey, I'd 797 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 6: walk over and we chat a little bit, and then 798 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 6: I'd leave and I watch everybody's face like who is that? 799 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 6: Who is that? I mean, it got to the point 800 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 6: that we felt like wanting to take care of them 801 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 6: because they were like real people. Sure, but the fan 802 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 6: base was very bizarre. 803 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure. Well what is it like? 804 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you're going from forget sitcom to film, which 805 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: I want to get into because I know what a 806 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: difference that is. But you're going from working with Disney, 807 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: which is known to maybe squeeze a quarter till the 808 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: Eagle screams, to Ocean's eleven, where you're dressing literally some 809 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: of the best looking people in the history of the world. 810 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: What kind of freedom did you have with that budget 811 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 2: when it comes to the wardrobe compared to what you 812 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: had on Boyby's World. 813 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 6: Well, for that, I want to say, because I worked 814 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 6: really close with the supervisor, and she was the one 815 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 6: who kind of was like, you need to really start supervising, 816 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 6: and I was like, oh no, I love being on set. 817 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 6: I like working with the Actually like, no, you need 818 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 6: to start supervising. And so I would stay there with 819 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 6: her at night doing receipts and most of the paperwork stuff. 820 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 6: So I got to see like the budget wise, it 821 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 6: is insane. 822 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine. 823 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 6: Everything on that show because Jeffrey Kurlin was a designer 824 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 6: and he knew his down to the tee. Like I 825 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 6: remember like running down the aisles like during the Vegas scenes, 826 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 6: and he literally would be like, I'm going to change 827 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 6: that person's necklace. That person needs ear rings. Yeah, there 828 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 6: are a few designers that do that, and he is 829 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,959 Speaker 6: one of them. But for him, it's the entire look. 830 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 6: He made every single thing, like every outfit, every shirt, 831 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 6: Andy Garcia, everything tie, his shirt, his shuit, like everything 832 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 6: was made down to his shoes. We made him shoes. 833 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: It's so timelessly cool, like when you I love that 834 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: movie and I still watch it because I teach now 835 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: and I use it in screenwriting class, and it's still 836 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,439 Speaker 1: everybody still looks so stylish, like it's not dated at all, 837 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: you know, it has this like everyone is just so 838 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: effortlessly styled and cool. It's an amazing, amazing everyone. 839 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 6: On that crew. I mean, Sodaberg, he's if you ever 840 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 6: get a chance to work with him, it is amazing 841 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 6: to watch. He knows exactly, he doesn't waste any time, 842 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 6: he knows exactly what he wants, how he wants to shot, 843 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 6: and it's just done. Like we never waited on the actors. 844 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 6: They all just came. They all did their stuff like 845 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 6: nobody was joking around. We were doing seven eight hour days. 846 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. 847 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 2: That was now, did you what was how big a 848 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: shift is it going from four camera sitcom to a 849 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 2: film of that size? 850 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean, was this? It's two different. 851 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 6: Worlds, right, yeah, completely different worlds? 852 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: Is there one you prefer? 853 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 6: It's so weird though, because I was, I felt like 854 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 6: after the four camera it seemed such a piece of 855 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 6: cake compared to everything else. Now, the stuff that we 856 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 6: did for features, it was it was hard, but you 857 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 6: had a longer time. You had time to prep it, 858 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 6: you had time to make it, you know, and you 859 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 6: had time to dress it, whereas on video or when 860 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 6: we're doing four camera. It was very quick turnaround. I 861 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 6: mean we were shopping putting stuff on you within like 862 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 6: you know, a couple of days, and then you guys 863 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 6: were on camera and then having to get approved. 864 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,479 Speaker 1: We wouldn't even know who the guest cast was until 865 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: like the day. 866 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, we would get like maybe the day before or 867 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 6: something like that. It's kind of like how they patterned 868 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 6: the episodics. Episodics are the hardest things I've ever done. Wow, 869 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 6: because you're prepping a show, wrapping a show, and shooting 870 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 6: a show all within ten days, right and at the 871 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,479 Speaker 6: same time. 872 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: And so this is when you're working on You went 873 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: on to Nip Tuck, Yeah, Empire Diaries and then some 874 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 1: Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad. Don't work on so many different things. 875 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: It's like some of the coolest shows in the history. Yeah. 876 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 6: I have been very, very fortunate the people that I 877 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 6: have been introduced to and have remained really good friends. 878 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 6: When I started on Nip Tuck, so lou Irick and 879 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 6: who is the costume designer. She's just amazing. She does 880 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 6: all of Ryan Murphy's staff, all the Americans, and and 881 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 6: I adored her and she had this work ethic but 882 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 6: not only that though, she was so incredibly creative, like 883 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,760 Speaker 6: the things that she would come up with, like she knew. 884 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 6: But Ryan Murphy, the creator, he was like that, like 885 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 6: he is the type of man that would call Lou 886 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 6: up and say, so, I was walking down on fourth 887 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 6: fifth Avenue in front of oh gosh, what showroom was it? 888 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 6: And he's like, and I saw this dress, and I 889 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 6: knew Kimber needed to have this dress. So of course 890 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 6: we contacted the showroom and everything and found out and 891 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 6: it was like like a five thousand dollars dress. There 892 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 6: was nothing written in a script, but he was like, no, 893 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 6: she is going to wear that at some point, so 894 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 6: you know, it's down to the tea. That man is 895 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 6: so incredibly creative and artistic, like he knew, like down 896 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 6: to the lampshade right exactly how he wants it. And 897 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 6: you know, and Lou has a huge like pedigree behind 898 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 6: her too in terms of the shows that she's been on, 899 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 6: and you know, and it's the details, like she's very 900 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 6: into like the little details like just the belt could 901 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 6: completely change an outfit. And she's one of I've been 902 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 6: fortunate enough all a lot of the costume designers I've 903 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 6: worked with. She was so incredibly hard working, Like I 904 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,959 Speaker 6: couldn't leave without her leaving. So I would just stay 905 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 6: there and I would just keep doing paperwork and we'd 906 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 6: be there for like fifteen hours and she'd be like, 907 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 6: you need to go home. I was like, I can't 908 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 6: leave until you leave, right. But we both loved what 909 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 6: we did, and that was like one of the things 910 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 6: that I miss so much that I don't, you know, 911 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 6: get to do as much. But I love those fifteen 912 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 6: hour days. I love those sixteen hours days. Crazy. 913 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So you've got Breaking Bad, You've got Vampire Diars, 914 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 2: You've got show after show after show that are just 915 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 2: the coolest things in the world. 916 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: But I want to get into my world, the world 917 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: of the nerd. So what is it like working on 918 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: the Mandalorian? Please tell me Mandalorian stories. 919 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 6: I worked with Shauna on Angel, okay, And she had 920 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 6: also done Firefly, which was like. 921 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: A great, phenomenal, great show. 922 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then I had just met her and so 923 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 6: she brought me onto Angel. And when I left Angel 924 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 6: to go do Niptag, and we kept in touch and everything. 925 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 6: I helped her out here and there, and when she 926 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 6: called me, I was like, are you sure, I don't. 927 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 6: I'm not. I'm not. I think I was like one 928 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 6: of the only person that hadn't seen Star Wars. 929 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: What no, I have? 930 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 6: I have I have, especially when. 931 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: I when when you're offering a job on a Star 932 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,359 Speaker 1: Wars TV show, the Star Wars TV show, you had 933 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,280 Speaker 1: not seen a single Star Wars'. 934 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 6: I know I had seen I think like Empire Strikes Back. 935 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: It started with the second one, Oh my god, oh too. 936 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 6: I just remembered, like I was, my cousin's are going 937 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 6: to go watch it? And my other cousin and I 938 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 6: were like, no, We're going to stay home and play 939 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 6: all So they all went. And you know, I've seen 940 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,959 Speaker 6: it like bits and pieces on TV, and I never 941 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 6: watched it from the beginning to end. And I think, 942 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,720 Speaker 6: like five years ago I did. 943 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing. 944 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 2: That's got to be a totally different type of costuming, right, 945 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's so yeah. I mean there's appliances 946 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 2: and there's helmets and guns, which has got to be 947 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 2: a whole different thing. I mean, is that just a 948 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 2: whole different world when you get into kind of the 949 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,240 Speaker 2: fantasy sci fi genre. 950 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely everything. I mean, I've been in situations where you know, 951 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 6: everything's made in how you know, or everything's like sent 952 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,720 Speaker 6: out and they're all made, you know, clothing wise and everything. 953 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 6: I've never been in a situation where we actually had 954 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 6: our entire costume department, like with specialty people making armor, 955 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 6: and you had the other special and then you had 956 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 6: like you know, a specialized person who does all the 957 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 6: aging and dying down to the tee, and you had 958 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 6: your painters and just human people on set, just the 959 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 6: rotating I think at one point it was I think 960 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 6: just in that warehouse alone, we probably had about forty 961 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 6: just people in there that I'm constantly just going Okay, 962 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 6: what is going on? You know, and being thrown into 963 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,879 Speaker 6: that world where they had already done the first Mandalorian, 964 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 6: they had you know, done Bubba fet they had, you know, 965 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 6: so they were the crew was amazing, they and they 966 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 6: were all nerves they have. 967 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: And so you must get to the point because like 968 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: I imagine, you know, when you're when you're working on 969 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: something like you know, uh uh Ocean's eleven, you you're 970 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 1: you're dealing with the real world, right, so you know, 971 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: like what when you're culturally you're styling towards with something 972 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: like like Mandalorian, you have to just get to a 973 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: point where you know different like tribes that have been 974 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: completely made up, and like do you have to just 975 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: let do you study for that or do you just 976 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: absorb it by by being around it? Like, oh, I 977 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: know that people from this planet dressed like this, people 978 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: from this is what it looks like. Yeah, exactly, Like 979 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: you just figure that, like or is there like a 980 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: is there a book a bible that you have to study? 981 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,240 Speaker 1: How does it works? 982 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 6: It's actually I talked to a lot of the people 983 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 6: who are working there more so than anything else, And 984 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 6: like Alyssa, who was the A C. D. She is 985 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 6: a wealth of note. Like everybody who work there excluding myself. 986 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 6: We're huge, huge like Star Wars, like knew the whole trilogy, 987 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 6: every everything. So when I stepped into Mandalorian, they basically 988 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 6: shoot pieces of every episode all at the same time, okay, 989 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 6: and because it kind of flashes back and forth and 990 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 6: all this stuff. So by the time I came in 991 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 6: to help with that, they had already done a lot 992 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,760 Speaker 6: of establishing things. So I was just kind of getting 993 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 6: caught up, and but I was really there to help 994 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 6: prep and to help start Ahsoka. So That's where my 995 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 6: training really came in because of all the storm Troopers, 996 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 6: and I mean I was like up watching the cartoons. 997 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 2: Because Julie Julia their animated series cartoons. 998 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 6: Sorry apologies, you're right. I had to stay and watch 999 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 6: the animated series. And as I was breaking down the 1000 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 6: script things that I didn't understand, I would go back 1001 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 6: and and I would I would ask questions. So there's 1002 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,959 Speaker 6: like this whole down to like where the Stormtroopers came from, 1003 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 6: the colors. 1004 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 7: The. 1005 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: Clones. 1006 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, did you like, didn't you love the 1007 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 5: animated series though? 1008 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 1: Where the animated series is phenomenally good. 1009 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 6: And it helped explain so much because when you're just 1010 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 6: thrown in it, you're just like, uh what yeah, And also, 1011 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 6: like everybody knew all the verbiage was the one that 1012 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 6: I was having a really hard time figuring out. The 1013 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 6: the Lickys, the ones with the you know, the ears, 1014 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 6: and then all the different animations and how we were 1015 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 6: going to do it, and it was so overwhelming. I 1016 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 6: mean it got to the point where I was dreaming 1017 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 6: it and dreaming like what each clone from each error 1018 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 6: and how they evolved and the cold. 1019 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,760 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite? Do you have a favorite 1020 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: like style of Star Wars world, like Planet Tribe, person Team. 1021 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what are the different things. 1022 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 6: No, they're all different races, and they each have beauty 1023 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 6: in them. I mean, like my favorite outfits in all 1024 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,919 Speaker 6: honesty though, I love those red witches. Yeah. 1025 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: Cool, you know. 1026 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 6: And also it's just there's like this whole history behind 1027 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 6: like when you see one character, but there's like one 1028 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,440 Speaker 6: little piece because it that he has on or that 1029 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,320 Speaker 6: they'll have on that actually goes back to like yeah, 1030 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 6: I don't know a three other series history indep and 1031 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,919 Speaker 6: and a lot of the fan base. I mean they're hardcore. 1032 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: That's the thing. 1033 00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 2: If you mess up one night Sister or ven Trists 1034 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 2: or anybody, people are going to be like, well that's wrong. 1035 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you thinking? What did you just do? Yeah? 1036 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: I mean that's but that's what I mean. You can 1037 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 2: really do this with anything. I mean, at the end 1038 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 2: of the day, that you could say the same thing 1039 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 2: for you know, Jane Austen, for the world of Jane Austin. 1040 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 2: It's like the language has its own kind of thing. 1041 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,919 Speaker 2: The costumes is their own thing. 1042 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: The every mannerism, it's its own thing. It's a micro world, 1043 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: which is what Star Wars is. 1044 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: So it's the beauty is Now what do we have 1045 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 2: to do to get you to dress us like stormtroopers 1046 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 2: and put us in something? 1047 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: Do you do? You not throw them on top of 1048 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: his whole Star Wars stormtroops steal your cigarettes? What else? 1049 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 6: Crazy? Was? We actually had some of the Stormtroopers, the 1050 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 6: the from the original that were made in London, right, 1051 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 6: they were they were beautifully like they looked beautiful, but 1052 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 6: there were cracks and I'm sure back then they I 1053 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 6: mean to make it look amazing, they weren't. 1054 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 7: They weren't functionable, right, right, just like well I remember 1055 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 7: Carol telling me a story about how for Darth Vader, 1056 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 7: the suit is so clunky that they'd only shoot him 1057 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 7: from the knees up because there was a guy lying 1058 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 7: down on the ground holding one foot and another guy 1059 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 7: lying down on the ground holding the other foot, and 1060 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 7: they'd rock him into his position. Because because the costumes 1061 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,919 Speaker 7: are so they weren't functional at all at the time. 1062 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 6: They are not functionable at all. So we had actually 1063 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 6: repurposed for the clones, right, We had repurposed, you know, 1064 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 6: some of them and the bits and pieces, and then 1065 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 6: we realized oh my gosh, you can't because there's so 1066 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 6: much action. So then you have the stunt guys and 1067 00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 6: every time they got hit and goes. There were so 1068 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 6: many and even you know, like on Mandalorian, like all 1069 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 6: all their jet packs and their helmets to make it functioning, 1070 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 6: you know, they couldn't be made. There was one that 1071 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 6: was for on camera and then there's one for actual functioning. 1072 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 6: And I remember on Manda they had this one scene 1073 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 6: where they wanted, oh gosh, I forgot her name because 1074 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 6: everything is kind of a blur right now, but they 1075 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 6: wanted her to be able to throw her helmet, and 1076 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 6: they called me. My set people called me, and I 1077 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 6: was like, there is no way in hell but you 1078 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 6: throw that helmet. I have one picture and I have 1079 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 6: one that looks half that's for stunts, so they can 1080 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 6: do that. But she cannot take off this other one 1081 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 6: and just throw it because it will crack it. 1082 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: It's not Emily. It's not Emily Swallow from the Armor 1083 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: who played the Yeah. 1084 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 6: Got oh, I can't think of her name. I'm horrible. 1085 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 6: I'm still the same person. Nothing has changed. I'm horrible 1086 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 6: with names. 1087 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: Hopefully you quit smoking. Hopefully you quit smoking. 1088 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 6: I've been like, I know you guys by face and everything, 1089 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 6: but then I start blanking out. It's all menopause. I'd 1090 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 6: blame it on menopause. 1091 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 5: Oh man, Well, we've had so much fun talking to day. 1092 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 5: I'm sorry that Danielle had to bail, but you know, 1093 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 5: I guess my big question for you would be looking. 1094 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 2: Back on your amazing career, which is still going and 1095 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 2: you don't have to say us because we're on right now, 1096 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 2: what's the project that sticks out to you most as 1097 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 2: you're like that that right there is the one I 1098 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 2: want to be remembered for. 1099 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 5: Oh. 1100 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 6: I don't think there's any project that I would honestly 1101 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 6: say like I would like to be remembered for. For me, 1102 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 6: every project was special in its own way. But I 1103 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 6: would say it would be a tie between boy Mean's 1104 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 6: World and Niptock. I grew on in Boyman's World, I 1105 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 6: really did. I kind of came into just being more confident, 1106 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 6: but and just being okay because even during boy Mean's 1107 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 6: World it was a weird situation. I technically wasn't. I 1108 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,919 Speaker 6: didn't have a costume design title. My title was supervisor, 1109 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 6: so I managed all the paperwork. But yet I dictated 1110 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 6: in terms of like shopping and deciding what you guys wore, 1111 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 6: you know, with Michael Jacobs and the rest of the 1112 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 6: writing crew, creativity wise, not so much. I mean, my 1113 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,320 Speaker 6: hands were pretty tied on certain things, so for me 1114 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 6: it was more about paperwork. But you guys were like 1115 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 6: the first group that I really got to create a 1116 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 6: family with. Yeah, and I only have the best memories, 1117 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 6: especially the finale. Yeah we cry. I mean, there's like 1118 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 6: so many the bear, didn't we we had. 1119 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 2: This yeah, which Danielle did not remember, by the way, 1120 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 2: didn't remember the bear. 1121 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Do remember that we had a bear on set. 1122 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 2: Covered in honey and running from a bear And she 1123 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 2: had no memory of it whatsoever. 1124 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 6: I remember it because I remember the guy telling all 1125 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 6: the women like, if you're on if it's that time 1126 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 6: of the month, you can't be on set, He'll come 1127 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 6: after you. 1128 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Yikes. 1129 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, don't you guys are I mean, I oh. 1130 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Gosh, no. I mean all of our memories are of 1131 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: laughing on set. Literally all we think of, Like when 1132 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: I think about Boy Meets World, more than anything, I 1133 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: just think about us laughing together all the time, just 1134 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 1: all the time. It's so it's such a positive memory, 1135 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 1: and thank you so much for I mean just listening 1136 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: to hear how you stood up for Danielle and you know, 1137 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: like that is truly like that is an invaluable thing 1138 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: that you did. And I was it was necessary. 1139 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 6: Scared though, Yeah, at that point I was kind of like, Okay, 1140 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 6: fire me because you know. And and thank god for 1141 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 6: Karen too, because she was She was a big advocate 1142 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 6: also and was just like we are not doing this 1143 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 6: and and you guys just made it so much fun. 1144 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 6: I will have to say, like the things that you 1145 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 6: guys did. Yes, sometimes. 1146 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm so bummed you in North Carolina because I 1147 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: just we have to go to dinner, we have to last, 1148 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: we have to have like a long three hour meal 1149 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: and catch up. We're in North Carolina. 1150 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 6: I'm actually down in Carolina Beach, so it's down Wilmington. 1151 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: Okay, great, so much. It's so great to see you. 1152 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 6: It was really great seeing you guys too, And and 1153 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 6: I hope everything has been amazing for you guys. 1154 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you as well, And we're so so happy to 1155 01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 2: see you and hopefully we get to see you in 1156 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 2: person and give you a big hug soon. 1157 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely, you guys, take. 1158 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 1: Care you do by Julie Bye bye bye dude. A 1159 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 1: she looks the same, but b what a career? I know, 1160 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 1: no kidding insane. The second I saw her, it's just 1161 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: like all the memories come flooding back, and it's just 1162 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: like right, we like she was just. 1163 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 2: Part of our our group, like, and we used to 1164 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 2: go to I mean it would by the end, we 1165 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 2: weren't in our dressing rooms at all. 1166 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 1: We would go hang out. We got set, yeah, be 1167 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: at craft service. We'd be in Julie's room. Yeah, because 1168 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: once I got out of school, I was never anywhere 1169 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: but on set. Right, we were just always hanging out 1170 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 1: and just craft Service Julie's room. 1171 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1172 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 1: We would just be roaming around, laughing, telling stories. I mean, 1173 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: just constantly making each other laugh. It's just the best. 1174 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,480 Speaker 1: It was such a great and vironment much fun. Her 1175 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: laugh is the same. It brought me right back. All right, 1176 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Well we don't have Danielle. Can we can you do 1177 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: the outro? What do we say? 1178 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 6: Oh? 1179 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: I have to do it because you have to do 1180 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,480 Speaker 1: the merch call. Do you want to switch it up? 1181 01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: Do you want me to be the outro and you 1182 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: do them merch call? Uh No, because I don't have 1183 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,959 Speaker 1: any idea, So you gotta thank you all for joining 1184 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 1: us for this episode of pod Meats World. As usual, 1185 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: you can write to us somewhere pods World Show at 1186 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 1: gmail dot com, Todd Meats World Show, and as always 1187 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: we have merch. May the merch be with you there there, 1188 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: I had to go star wars uh Podmets World. 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