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Speaker 1: Thirty birds. What's up and welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle presented by Zaxby's I'm your host Will McFadden,

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Speaker 1: joined as always by Tory mclaney and Tarren Walk and

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Speaker 1: we are here to talk about Wednesday's scrimmage. The Falcons

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Speaker 1: had an intra squad scrimmage, the first time in camp

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Speaker 1: they've had like scrimmage periods, but this was the first

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Speaker 1: time where it felt like ninety percent of the practice

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Speaker 1: was dedicated to usually ones versus twos. But it was

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Speaker 1: still a lot of fun and it really did feel

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Speaker 1: like the season is right around the corner, the team

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Speaker 1: is ready to go. There were a lot of players

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Speaker 1: kind of playing fast, playing loose. I'm curious, Taran, what

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Speaker 1: stood out from today to you?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I mean, it was just good to get

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Speaker 2: three hours essentially, it felt like I mean, I actually

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Speaker 2: think it did tap on the door of three hours

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Speaker 2: of just scrimmage work. The weather was beautiful, like in

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Speaker 2: the mid seventies. It felt like fall football for the

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Speaker 2: first time, so that already put like a buzz in

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Speaker 2: the air. But I think you could see it on

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Speaker 2: the players too. I just know one moment that stands

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Speaker 2: out was like Grady Jarrett had massive pressure on Michael

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Speaker 2: Pennock Junior. Whether or not it was a sack you

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Speaker 2: can debate because he can't actually hit him, I'll give

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Speaker 2: it to him.

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Speaker 3: But the man was.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much.

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Speaker 2: The restraint he had in his body to stop that

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Speaker 2: train from demolishing Cenix was like, oh gosh, but he

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Speaker 2: was so excited and like you can see multiple plays

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Speaker 2: like that. I think more so on the defense today

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Speaker 2: than offense. There were a few offensive plays where it

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Speaker 2: was like, whoa, that's as much as my enthusiasm gets

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Speaker 3: But it was. It was rather balanced, but it was

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Speaker 3: good overall.

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Speaker 1: Did you feel balanced leaning slightly defense today or did

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Speaker 1: you think that the offense kind of got their licks into?

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Speaker 4: I thought that early on the it was the offense's

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Speaker 4: day if you would have asked me that, because they

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Speaker 4: did this thing where they actually mimicked like a halftime,

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Speaker 4: like going.

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Speaker 1: In that kind of interesting it was.

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Speaker 4: It was an interesting point practice because it's all of

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Speaker 4: us and just like just standing out there waiting for

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Speaker 4: them to come back out of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't. They didn't bring me food like they

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Speaker 1: usually do at the state. We got nothing.

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Speaker 4: But it was funny because I thought coming out that

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Speaker 4: the offense was just firing on all cylinders. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it felt like Kirk Cousins and Michael Pennix could not miss.

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Speaker 3: I have their halftime numbers, go ahead, give them to us.

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Speaker 2: Kirk was twelve or thirteen and Michael was fourteen of sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Young was pretty miss.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is not missing hardly anything at all, And

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Speaker 4: I felt that way. I felt like Darnell Mooney came

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Speaker 4: out and immediately caught my eye with the connections that

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Speaker 4: he has with Kirk Cousins and how comfortable I felt

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Speaker 4: like Kirk was throwing the ball his way when let's

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Speaker 4: be honest, it wasn't like he was just standing.

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Speaker 1: Out in the middle of nowhere by himself.

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Speaker 4: There was some good, sticky coverage, and I thought Darnell made.

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Speaker 1: A few plays.

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Speaker 4: I thought there was one play in particular where for

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Speaker 4: some something broke down and Kyle Pitts was completely open

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Speaker 4: for like a forty five Yon touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I thought that the day started, or the morning started,

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Speaker 4: very heavily lopsided towards the offense, and then when they

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Speaker 4: came out after quote unquote halftime. It was like the

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Speaker 4: defense just flipped the script completely and they were playing

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Speaker 4: with a new level of intensity. I think it kind

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Speaker 4: of maybe took them a little bit to warm up,

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Speaker 4: and you know, who knows what was being asked of

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Speaker 4: the players throughout the practice. Even though it was a scrimmage,

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Speaker 4: things are still scripted, you know, so there's still certain

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Speaker 4: I thought that the defense looked I'll give the first

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Speaker 4: half to the offense, second half to the defense, hashtug balance.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know who gave the halftime speech

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Speaker 1: to the defense in the locker room. I mean, was

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Speaking of JD, Yeah, he got a lot of him.

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Speaker 4: And Troy Anderson were your linebackers today with the first

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Speaker 4: I thought was it's always good to get those guys

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Speaker 4: saw last year how quickly your depth can deplete in

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Speaker 4: Even though all we've been talking about all camp, along

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Speaker 4: a good problem that they have where they have three

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Speaker 4: starting caliber guys in the room. What happens if the

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Speaker 4: worst happens, can JD Bertrand kind of step up and

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Speaker 4: so it's good to see see that a little bit

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Speaker 4: today as well.

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Speaker 2: This was this week was like a preview of worst

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Speaker 2: case scenario. Obviously, there's still two weeks until week one,

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Speaker 2: so I'm sure the hope is that both Caden and

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Speaker 2: Nate will be okay by then, but this was essentially

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Speaker 2: throwing JD into the fire so they could see he

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Speaker 2: does happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, obviously at this time of year,

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Speaker 1: stars play like stars, because by this point in camp,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows everybody's moves. There's nothing you can pull on

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Speaker 1: anybody that's surprising. But I've been around teams that you

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Speaker 1: have all these expectations and then you're right going into

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Speaker 1: week three, you look at the roster and it's completely different,

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Speaker 1: and it's tough when you're one of those teams that's

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Speaker 1: is why depth is so important, And especially like at

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Speaker 1: inside linebacker, it's felt almost like a Mount Rushmore group

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Speaker 1: seen great performances from guys like Neilo Eifler and Mutant,

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Speaker 1: else and developing that chemistry and developing that shorthand and

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Speaker 1: getting JD with Troy Anderson in there today, Like that's

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Speaker 1: a combo that, yeah, you probably are going to see

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Speaker 1: And so to get that trial run and get a

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Speaker 2: And I thought, I think JD, you played with the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean kind of buy necessity a little bit,

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Speaker 1: thought Troy Anderson looked great out there. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: writing up the best thing I saw today, and really

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Speaker 1: it's just going to be a rundown of a lot

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Speaker 1: of these like key support players that are falling too,

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Speaker 1: like a third group. So in training camp, we cover

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Speaker 1: the stars. We like to talk about Grady Jarrett. We

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Speaker 1: about Kirk Cousins, and then we like to talk about

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Speaker 1: Troy Anderson's or the Kentavious Streets or those guys who

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Speaker 1: are really impactful on Sunday, and it was a great

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Speaker 4: I said this immediately after practice ended, where we were

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Speaker 4: talking just in our little group afterwards, and I was like, Man,

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Speaker 4: I love watching the big boys get after it. And

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Speaker 4: the quote unquote big boys is this one grouping of

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Speaker 4: defensive linemen that I thoroughly.

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Speaker 1: It's Zoe and jsw.

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Speaker 4: James Smith Williams, and then it's David and Yamata, Kentavious

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Speaker 1: They're they're the big boys. They're the run stoppers.

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Speaker 4: And they had a few looks where it was like

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Speaker 4: that five together up front and I loved watching them play.

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Speaker 1: Either a little boys group do you call the other There.

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Speaker 4: Is a little boys group, but I'm not gonna call

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Speaker 1: But the big these are the big boys. These are

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Speaker 1: these are the guys who.

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Speaker 4: You put out there and you're like, no one, no

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Speaker 4: one's getting through these guys. And I thought that group

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Speaker 4: who I thought came in off the street no pun

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Speaker 4: He was not someone even when they signed him, he

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Speaker 4: I just thought it was Grady Jared's hurt. You need

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Speaker 4: some guys in there. You're running out of depth. David

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Speaker 4: on Yamata has an ankle injury, like you're just trying

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Speaker 3: And it came from right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I Philly, Yeah, but yes, yeah. So

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Speaker 4: for Kntavious Street, I loved watching him play last year,

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Speaker 4: and then he gets injured and he doesn't really get

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Speaker 4: what someone like him, what his future in Atlanta would

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Speaker 4: look like. I'm so glad they brought him back, and

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Speaker 4: I think that we are seeing the reason why he is.

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Speaker 4: He can be a game disruptor. If you don't look

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Speaker 4: his way, and I like what I see from him,

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Speaker 4: and I just don't I know, we have this bigger

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Speaker 4: conversation about fifty three man, fifty three men and a

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Speaker 4: week ago, but like, I just can't see Kntavia Street

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Speaker 4: and got someone like Eddie Goldman not.

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Speaker 2: Being on the fifty three man And even if it

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Speaker 4: So even if it means you have to load up

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Speaker 4: with defensive linemen and carry maybe more defensive lineman will

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Speaker 4: than what you may normally want to carry, I'm okay

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Speaker 4: with that because I like what I've seen from these guys.

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Speaker 1: That's such a Yeah, this is coming, This is coming.

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Speaker 1: We're going to record it a little bit later and

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Speaker 1: it will roll Friday, but we will have the second

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Speaker 1: of our fifty three Man Predictions podcast go on Friday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can't wait to get into that. That is what Toy

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Speaker 1: is alluding at. So find out the conclusion of this

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Speaker 4: Like that's the thing is, like this is we're not

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Speaker 1: Their way, absolutely and take that all day, right.

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Speaker 1: Now is the time. The time is nigh. You should

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Speaker 3: Man, an offensive speech.

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Speaker 1: The time is not. The time is nigh, y'all. Today's

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Speaker 1: episode of Falcons Final Whistle is brought to you by Zaxby's.

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Speaker 1: And after a long game, when I'm tired and I

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Speaker 1: need to refuel, I turned to his Zaxbies, their marinated

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Speaker 1: Clark Phillip, Yeah, it was like Tarry, you want to

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Speaker 2: It was one of the balls where Kirk aired it

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Speaker 4: And none of this is new with Clark. Philps like

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Speaker 1: You're so ahead of your time.

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Speaker 1: be a chameleon and they're throwing a bunch of different

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Speaker 1: things out there before we get to Camp Champ though.

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Speaker 1: I know after after practice wrapped up, Kirk had an

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Speaker 1: amazing story at the podium and Tarin, you are the

443
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Speaker 1: only one in there, so would you like to recount

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Speaker 1: Kirk's Kirk's tail, Well.

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Speaker 2: The Falcons went to a water park yesterday, and Kirk

446
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Speaker 2: was like super excited. The photos of it are great,

447
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Speaker 2: those are on Twitter, Instagram, and so I have a complaint.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I wanted to go.

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Speaker 4: The invite was not extended to any of us. I

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Speaker 4: love a good water park. You guys weren't there.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, well don't don't don't.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I love a good wave pool.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that we did not catch an invite,

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Speaker 4: I'm upset.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can get them back with this kind of

457
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Speaker 2: prank that Kirk experienced in Minnesota. So apparently like everyone's

458
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Speaker 2: always been like one day they're just gonna call camp.

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Speaker 2: They're just gonna be like, you know, guys, we're not

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Speaker 2: gonna practice it. We're gonna go to an amusement park,

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Speaker 2: a water park, something just spontaneously late in camp. He

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Speaker 2: said he's always been waiting for that moment in his

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Speaker 2: career and it hasn't happened until obviously yesterday. But he

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Speaker 2: said one time in Minnesota, the long Snapper rented six

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Speaker 2: like coach buses and had them parked at the facility

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Speaker 2: like in between the practice field and like wherever, I

467
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Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know, And it was like so

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Speaker 2: obvious that the linemen didn't tape up, like they were

469
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Speaker 2: so convinced that they were going to go out onto

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Speaker 2: the field and be like, no practice today, folks. And

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Speaker 2: so they're out there and they blow the whistle and

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Speaker 2: they're like, okay, like are they going to call it?

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Speaker 2: And then no, they start practice and as soon as

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Speaker 2: they start practice, the coach buses drove away. And apparently

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Speaker 2: the linemen took forever to forgive the long snapper, like

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Speaker 2: he had you buy them dinner and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that is an elite frame.

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Speaker 1: The guts on the long snap. I need to go

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Speaker 1: figure out exactly who that is.

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Speaker 2: But like he didn't say what year it was, so

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Speaker 2: I hope there haven't been multiple long snappers, but I

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Speaker 2: want to give them as I want to give them

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Speaker 2: as kudos because that is an incredible frame.

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Speaker 1: Must have felt so secure in his role and job

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Speaker 1: to be like I'm messing with the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm messing with the entire team, not just no

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Speaker 3: one group.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So let's go ahead and wrap up today's

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Speaker 1: recap with our Camp Champ. As always, Tory, We'll start with.

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Speaker 4: You my Camp Champ nomination for today is Kentavious Street

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Speaker 4: and today's Camp Champ. I could have given it to

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Speaker 4: a ton of different people. I thought about giving it

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Speaker 4: to Daniel Mooney. I thought about giving it to Clark

494
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Speaker 4: Phillips again, but.

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Speaker 3: You're avoiding giving it to Clark again.

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Speaker 1: He just we've talked about him so much. He's running

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Speaker 1: be a fourth chair on the podcast if he wins

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Speaker 1: another cam track.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the next host of Falcon's Final Whistle podcast. But no,

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Speaker 4: I ended up going with Coentavia Street because of what

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Speaker 4: I said earlier, where I feel like he has played

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Speaker 4: his way onto the fifty three man roster and I

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Speaker 4: again can't see him not being on it and the

504
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Speaker 4: play today and what I think he was able to

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Speaker 4: do for Grady Jarrett and for maybe David On Yamada,

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Speaker 4: and for Lorenzo Carter, Matthew Judon who got out there

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Speaker 4: a little bit more today.

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Speaker 1: That can't be overlooked. I think, So, what does he like?

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Speaker 1: What does he do?

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Speaker 4: I think from what I see he helps draw some

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Speaker 4: guys off of them.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 4: I think that a lot of times you've seen this

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Speaker 4: over the course of Grady Jarrett's career, where the protection

515
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Speaker 4: slides to him, And it's sometimes not just the protection.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's well like, instead of two offensive linemen, sometimes.

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Speaker 1: It's even three. Yeah yeah, right behind.

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Speaker 4: And that level of pressure going to someone, I think

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Speaker 4: it's kind of a lack of respect for the other

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Speaker 4: guys on the field that they don't even need.

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Speaker 1: To worry about. That's what it feels like.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like.

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Speaker 4: Contavious the way he plays, you gotta respect it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it may not always show up in the stat sheet,

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Speaker 4: but sometimes a good defensive tackle, in my opinion, isn't

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Speaker 4: always going to show up on the stat sheet, and

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Speaker 4: that's okay. And the way that I think you have

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Speaker 4: to account for Kentavious Street when he's in there, because

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Speaker 4: of the level of play he has, because of the

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Speaker 4: physical presence that I think he is, because he's kind

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Speaker 4: of he's a little bit he looks a little bit

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Speaker 4: like David on Yamata. Maybe maybe he's a little bit bigger,

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Speaker 4: though I'd have to like really break it down, and look,

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Speaker 4: I'm not entirely sure, but when you have those three

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Speaker 4: in there next week each other, it's a pretty daunting presence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Dense, Yeah, very dense, that's the right word. The

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Speaker 1: big boys if you will, And.

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Speaker 4: I think that draws the eyes away from someone just

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Speaker 4: looking at Grady Jarrett. You cannot do that anymore with

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Speaker 4: this defensive line. You can't just key on Grady Jarrett

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Speaker 4: and expect there not to be repercussions for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and that is something that is very, very different with

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Speaker 4: this defensive line that hasn't necessarily been there in the past,

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Speaker 4: if I'm being completely honest.

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Speaker 1: Contavious Street is a part of that for sure. And

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Speaker 1: I liked what you said about him not really like

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Speaker 1: making plays that aren't going to be reflected on the

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Speaker 1: box score in the stat sheet. And that's kind of

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Speaker 1: like my camp champ for today was Charlie Warner for

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Speaker 1: very similar reasons. Like he he did have a nice

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Speaker 1: little screen catch. It almost felt like a hey, we're

552
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Speaker 1: throwing you a bony or because you have just done

553
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Speaker 1: so much man, great dirty work for us today, so

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Speaker 1: like here's your reception. But he I was watching him

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Speaker 1: just as the kind of like motion tight end, and

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Speaker 1: that's the position I played in high school. So I'm

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Speaker 1: a little bit maybe I'm just a little more familiar

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Speaker 1: with like all right, what are you maybe trying to

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Speaker 1: do here? Yeah, there's a far cry from my high

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Speaker 1: school career to Charlie Warner's NFL career. I want to

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Speaker 1: put that on the record, but he didn't have to.

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Speaker 1: We already know. Oh man, my high school football career

563
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Speaker 1: was a joke. Anyway. He was just so good on

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Speaker 1: leverage blocks and he was so good at okay, And

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Speaker 1: this is something I'd love to ask him, is like

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Speaker 1: Bajan's shiftiness. It almost feels like he's aware of how

567
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Speaker 1: and good running backs do this. How do I set

568
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Speaker 1: up my blockers? So if if I'm coming here, but

569
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Speaker 1: Charlie's here and the defenders here, I'm cutting back so

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Speaker 1: that then Charlie's now right in the perfect position to

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Speaker 1: make that block. And there just wasn't really a miss

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Speaker 1: that I saw from Charlie. And on top of that,

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Speaker 1: he was just such a big energy player out there today.

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Speaker 1: He'd have a block that would spring a run for

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Speaker 1: a first down and then do like one of these

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Speaker 1: and just like give fist palms, Like he just is

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Speaker 1: having so much fun. And I love that he loves

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Speaker 1: the role that he is there to play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's so noticeable, and I think it goes

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Speaker 4: back to I know everybody's making fun of me for

581
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Speaker 4: at the very beginning of camp for picking that Charlie

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Speaker 4: Warner and Ross Dilly were going to be important like

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Speaker 4: free agency signings. People made funny for the yes and

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Speaker 4: I want to stand on business.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the last I get the last laugh because.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Warner has been someone who I've thoroughly enjoyed watching

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Speaker 4: this camp. And you're exactly right when you're looking, yeah,

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Speaker 4: when you're talking about I'm going to catch yeah, the

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Speaker 4: motion in front of Bejon and you have the whole

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Speaker 4: opening up. You have Jake Matthews, you have Matthew Bergern,

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Speaker 4: you have Drew Dalmond kind of getting inside, and then

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Speaker 4: you have Charlie Warner kind of just piercing through the

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Speaker 4: middle right in front of Bejon getting to the second level,

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Speaker 4: getting a linebacker or a safety.

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Speaker 1: Just that's all.

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Speaker 4: That's all that Bejon Robinson Needsjon Robinson has worked with

597
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Speaker 4: a lot less and I think that don't don't miss

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Speaker 4: that in what's happening in the run game when you

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Speaker 4: finally do see it go one hundred and ten percent.

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Speaker 1: And the honestly the part of Atlanta's run game that

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Speaker 1: was missing, I think last year that was apparents in

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Speaker 1: what was that twenty twenty two was those second level blocks.

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Speaker 1: We saw a good bit of like six seven yard

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Speaker 1: runs last season. The year before, I think we saw

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Speaker 1: a few more like twelve fourteen yard runs. And that

606
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Speaker 1: is where getting that linebacker, getting that safety on the

607
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Speaker 1: second level keeps that hole open a little bit longer.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see if they can get back to it.

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Speaker 1: But Taren, who was your camp champ for.

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Speaker 2: Today, Well, I came off the field, went straight to

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Speaker 2: you all and said kous Street. I was back and

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Speaker 2: forth between him and Eddie Goldman because I know Eddie

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Speaker 2: had a lot of quarterback pressure in that first half,

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Speaker 2: which Contavious had in the second. So I think it

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Speaker 2: was just recency bias that I said Conaus right away.

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Speaker 2: But like I just remember the first half. It was

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Speaker 2: like there's Goldman again, There's Goldman again. Goldman's on them,

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Speaker 2: and so back and forth between them. But to make

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Speaker 2: like the voting simple, I'm going to stick to Kntavius Street,

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Speaker 2: which I said earlier.

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Speaker 1: I love that again. It's like the guy the three

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Speaker 1: as we just named. That was kind of the theme

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Speaker 1: for today, and it's why it's so exciting in a

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Speaker 1: scrimmage again with the season just kind of like right

625
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Speaker 1: on the doorstep, the hand poised to knock. I loved that.

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Speaker 1: I saw at the not my analogy, the role players

627
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Speaker 1: just kind of ready to go. They were locked in.

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Speaker 1: And those are the players as much as we talked

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Speaker 1: about jan as much as we talked about Jesse Bates,

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Speaker 1: like those players in the middle of this roster are

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Speaker 1: going to be the ones that really determine a lot

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Speaker 1: of the wins and losses this year.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy that we all picked someone who didn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: have like a standout stat because there was the interception,

635
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Speaker 2: there was a touchdown pass, there were good runs. So

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Speaker 2: knowing that, like all of us were tuned in on

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Speaker 2: someone who wouldn't be on the stat sheet is kind

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Speaker 2: of says a lot about this team.

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Speaker 1: We're locked in as well. That's a yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: great note to end on. We have one more preseason

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Speaker 1: game and then we get to start talking about Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: and Week one and the twenty twenty four season. We

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Speaker 1: are almost here and so we hope that you guys

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Speaker 1: will be along for the ride with us. But thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening to today's episode of Falcons

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Speaker 1: Final Whistle or watching. You can check us out on

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Speaker 1: YouTube as well, but that will do it for today's episode.

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Speaker 1: I'm Will mcfatten, we got Tory mclaney and Tarn Walk.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching and listening, and we

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Speaker 1: will see you guys tomorrow