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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 2: a sibling Railvalry, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 3: You don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good.

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Speaker 2: And I just put beef tallow on my face.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's really good.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: And Aaron has it my base. I just I love

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Speaker 2: the way it feels. It smiles, it smells like a cow.

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Speaker 3: I can give you stuff that's good. I do beef.

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Speaker 3: I do the tallow sunscreen because I think it's better

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Speaker 3: than regular sunscreen.

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Speaker 2: I just don't wear sunscreen.

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Speaker 3: Well, then you should do the tallow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's goin. There has to be flavored. Tello.

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Speaker 3: I am so excited about this person that we have

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Speaker 3: coming on today because it feels like it feels to

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Speaker 3: me like someone I grew up with. Oh yeah, because

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Speaker 3: he he was you know, we have Dennis Leary coming on,

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Speaker 3: and I feel like when we were kids, he was like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that you know, he was like the yeah, well

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Speaker 2: when he was doing comedy, it was sort of aggressive. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He was that eighties like punk yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was that punk comedy.

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Speaker 3: Punk comedy. He just created that he was a punk comic.

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Speaker 4: I guess, let's see, let's see what he says.

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Speaker 2: Punk comedy. I seriously doubted.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is is I was. I was on

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Speaker 3: the plane with him, and I know you didn't even

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Speaker 3: I didn't say anything because I knew he's coming on

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Speaker 3: the podcast and then I'll bring us up with him.

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Speaker 3: But I'm sitting in first class. I come on the plane.

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Speaker 3: I actually saw Laurence Fishburne, who we call Fish, who

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Speaker 3: hadn't seen in a really long time, and Danny was

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Speaker 3: just like fanning out because he's such a Laurence fishman.

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Speaker 3: And then and then we're up in the at thirty

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Speaker 3: two thousand feet and I see this back of this

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Speaker 3: man's head going to the restroom, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: really recognize that person. And I recognized the back of

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Speaker 3: his like this is like the side of his very

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Speaker 3: distinguished back ahead with the thing. And then when he

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Speaker 3: was walking back, I was like, oh, it's Dennis Larry.

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Speaker 3: And then I wanted to say hi, but then I

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Speaker 3: felt weird. It felt weird because.

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Speaker 2: I want to say, you're going to be on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I didn't know if he was that kind

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Speaker 2: You know, I think he is. I'm assuming he's a

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Speaker 2: nice person, but I'm going to.

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Speaker 3: See if he had the same feeling right now, like

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Speaker 3: do I say hello?

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Speaker 2: What if he didn't even recognize what he might have

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Speaker 2: not even be the first question? Bring him on, let's

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Speaker 2: have this.

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Speaker 1: What we were getting off the plane, that's when I

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Speaker 1: saw you and your daughter. Yeah, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: and then we both went out at the down the

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Speaker 1: stay airs and I was like, she's having I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to fucking interrupt her kid.

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Speaker 3: We are dancing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, I'm hey, another celebrity.

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Speaker 3: That's how I felt. But I saw you going to

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Speaker 3: the bathroom and then and then I actually recognized you

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Speaker 3: from kind of like a three quarter I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, we're on the same flight and we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk in a couple of days. And then

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not going to say anything because

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Speaker 3: I didn't know. You know, some people are weird.

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Speaker 2: It seems like celebrity is there's this sort of thing

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Speaker 2: if if you don't know them, it's sort of okay

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Speaker 2: to approach them, right, But I wonder if that's teared out,

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Speaker 2: meaning if only A listers can talk to a listeners,

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Speaker 2: can you mix C and A you can see talk

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Speaker 2: to the Ayah, here's.

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Speaker 1: The weird thing. Larry Fishburne was on that same flight.

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Speaker 3: Who I've known.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I've known Larry forever. So we talked because

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Speaker 1: when we were first getting on he fucked up his foot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So we were talking about that and

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Speaker 1: I hadn't seen him in a long time.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what happened. When I saw him and he's like, hey, Kate,

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god. And he's the best,

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Speaker 3: Yes he is, but but then what happened to his foot?

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Speaker 1: The celebrities I don't know, especially when they're with their kids.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not gonna fucking bother.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but is there is there is there one who

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Speaker 2: you would you know, whether it's like a you know,

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Speaker 2: don't know, would you actually go up to that person?

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Speaker 1: I have? I think at this point I have too much.

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Speaker 1: If they have don't have a kid with them, it's

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Speaker 1: more likely that I might say, hey, Oliver, right, what's

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Speaker 3: More with sports people, like if it's a sports person,

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Speaker 3: I probably and I don't know them, I would I like,

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Speaker 3: I went.

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Speaker 3: Red so yeah, but I saw him at a at

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Speaker 3: no idea who I who I was. Really, I didn't

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Speaker 2: He was just all risk.

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Speaker 3: I was fine with it. I just had to meet him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I run that risk. But I don't like if

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Speaker 1: people have kids with him. I think it's kind of

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Speaker 1: like my unwritten rule is because I know my kids

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Speaker 1: when they were small, it was fucking pain in the

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Speaker 1: someplace off the plane or whatever. You don't want some

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Speaker 3: So anyway, I feel like the person that is the

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Speaker 3: most intimidating like that is actually our dad, because kurt

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Speaker 3: Is just doesn't care about any of it.

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Speaker 1: No, I want to say one thing about your dad. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've been a fan of your dad, for your dad

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Speaker 1: is a fucking great actor. Yeah, I've been your dad

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Speaker 1: for a long time and I'm a huge hockey thing.

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Speaker 1: That fucking your dad playing her Brooks because if you guys,

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Speaker 1: you probably are aware of it.

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Speaker 2: But he fucking nailed crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I know people talk about the speech, but god

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Speaker 1: damn it, every moment that when he shows up in

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Speaker 2: We're on a you know, like a there's a family

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Speaker 2: thread and there's all these fucking text threads everywhere, so

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Speaker 2: on sort of the dude, it's called the Olympians, right,

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Speaker 2: it's our thread. When when when USA was playing Canada,

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Speaker 2: going down. But I was imagining if Kurt when they

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Speaker 2: know before the game, would it would have been Mayhem, Mayhem.

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Speaker 2: But but I was talking about that just recently, and

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Speaker 2: that's such a you know, the performance is so insane

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Speaker 2: and it's underappreciated, Like there's no reason why he shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have been nominated for something. But he was made fucking crazy.

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Speaker 1: How the movie was you know, the movie as you

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Speaker 1: could tell from the first time I saw it, and

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Speaker 1: the director is a friend of mine. Book, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I knew what he was doing because he was as

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Speaker 1: he was starting it, he was like he wasn't casting stars. Really,

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Speaker 1: fucking Kurt Russell's playing her Brooks and he at the time.

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Speaker 1: I had a conversation with him once they started shooting.

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Speaker 1: I just I've seen it so many times, and I've

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Speaker 1: seen your dad do a million fucking things, and I

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's one of the When I was doing

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Speaker 3: all the press for the show that I have out

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Speaker 3: right now on Netflix, I I get asked all the time, like,

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Speaker 1: And I'm always like, the first, I at least saw

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Speaker 1: the first two episodes of your show. But it's fucking hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Oh the rogue doesn't. I mean, I know this's unfair,

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Speaker 1: Like I did, I wasn't aware enough of Brenda's song.

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Speaker 1: I literally wasn't paying enough attention because I was like,

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Speaker 1: holy fuck, this girl is great. The mothers are off. Guy,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Scott MacArthur. He's so funny. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: in the camp. He's in the whole Danny McBride camp.

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Speaker 3: So he was on Righteous Gems. He writes on Righteous Gemstone.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, yeah, well we're all call best friend.

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Speaker 2: Our kids go to school together. I've known Scottie forever,

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Speaker 2: so it's it's okay, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's turned into family.

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Speaker 2: I was real quick going back to the Miracle. I

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Speaker 2: actually auditioned for that because I played hockey for eight years, right,

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Speaker 2: so I was like, I want to be in this

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Speaker 2: fucking movie. But I went through the whole process, of course,

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Speaker 2: was doing everything I can't. I could not to to

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Speaker 2: fights your whole wife. Yeah. And my brother why you know,

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Speaker 2: played professional goalie. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: I dated professional hockey players many.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I just thought hockey players were cute, and I would.

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Speaker 2: Harry Oh's was the spot in Manhattan Beach where all

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Speaker 2: a leopard print tight dress, completely blown out hair, cruising

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Speaker 2: in her white convertible Wrangler. Yeah it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a eighteen eighty nine saw that didn't work,

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Speaker 3: but it did. The top did go down. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: definitely hockey players thought I liked their energy. I was like,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'd much prefer to hang out with

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Speaker 1: Hockey players. Hockey players are the best.

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Speaker 2: They're the best. Are the best. You all know that, Yes,

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Speaker 2: the best.

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Speaker 3: And I think they also like come from like great

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Speaker 3: families and any family that is, I mean all of

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Speaker 3: them are. But there's something about like the hockey four

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Speaker 3: am wake up calls parents who are taking their kids

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Speaker 3: to the rank that early. They are so committed.

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Speaker 1: Kids played hockey when they were grown up.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, Dennis, can I ask you a question if

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Speaker 3: you were to say what kind of comedian you are? Like,

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Speaker 3: like when you started doing stand up, we were kind

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Speaker 3: of trying to like talk about like what does someone

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Speaker 2: Kind are you class of?

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Speaker 1: I have two kids.

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Speaker 3: That's how you sound like my middle my middle my daughter.

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Speaker 3: We're both we have three both two same, two boys older,

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Speaker 3: It's so interesting that when you grow you know, like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which, well that's why this whole like, you know,

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Speaker 2: But that nepotism exists in every fucking industry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well let's go into that.

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Speaker 2: So you grew up in Worcester, Mass I played, I

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Speaker 2: there for about a month every summer. Yeah, isn't your dad.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't your dad born in fucking the Springfield or some ship?

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Speaker 3: Crazy really always something. I don't know, there's always something yea.

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Speaker 1: So just so you guys probably maybe, but yeah, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 3: So, your parents, so they immigrated. How old were they

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Speaker 1: could come by boat. And then and they came to

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00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: she came to New York. But then they ended up

439
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: in Worcester because there was a job up there.

440
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 3: Were they already married.

441
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: They got married here in America.

442
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: It's crazy, right, Do you have your Irish passport? I do,

443
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: and my kids have Irish and my son's about to

444
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: get his being Oh really yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's

445
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: his dad's Irish. His dad's English but from Ireland, like

446
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: the family.

447
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: Really, it's a great thing for kids because they can

448
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: work over their European Union. You know, it's fantastic.

449
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, we've got to get our Italian one.

450
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 3: We're in the process of looking into our Italian We're

451
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 3: we are our dads Sicilian.

452
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: I had no idea you guys were Sicilian.

453
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I Allie looks Italian. I don't. I got

454
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 3: kind of the Hungarian side, I think more. Although I

455
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: just looked at a picture of my grandmother, my grandmother.

456
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: That yeah, it's crazy. I actually looked like that.

457
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: It was like, weirded me out, Uncle mar Yeah, Sarah, Yeah.

458
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: So we're half weird, right, Yeah, it's so weird.

459
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 3: And I saw that picture and I was like, oh

460
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: my god, it looks so much like my grandma.

461
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: Now we're getting in touch with our half siblings and

462
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: our cousins and things are sort of coming together.

463
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: Dynamic for you. I mean, it's amazing that you guys

464
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: grew up. Ah. You know, actually, like with Kurt as your.

465
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: Dad, we were very lucky. I had this, you know,

466
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: after Gene Hackman died, there was this thing of him

467
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: going around on the Actors Studio talking about when his

468
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: dad left and every once in a while, like saw

469
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 3: that every time, you know, and it really got it

470
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: got him, you know, in that and everyone's I'll see

471
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 3: something like that, and it does. I get that, Like

472
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 3: it just never goes away. That like that little thing

473
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: of abandonment.

474
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 2: You saw him get. You saw him sort of like

475
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: sort of fall into it.

476
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: Just because because it's it's it's like your foundation, you know,

477
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: and it's really it really got me when I was

478
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: looking at that, because it was like, God, you know.

479
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: People, I'm not judging anybody. Once you have kids, I

480
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: just can't imagine. Yeah, ever, yes, yeah, I mean fuck,

481
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: I mean, god, damn.

482
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: Now I can have more understanding now that we're reconnecting

483
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: with our father.

484
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's complicated. Well, there's the.

485
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: Patterns connecting with your dad now.

486
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's patterns, right, And our grandfather left

487
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 2: our dad, you know, and then showed up later on

488
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: in his life and then you know, dad obviously didn't

489
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: have the tools to deal with that that trauma and

490
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: that pain, you know, in the fifties and so he

491
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: sort of repeated that pattern. I remember as a young

492
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: boy thinking I'm going to have kids, can wait to

493
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: have kids, and there's no world where I will leave

494
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: my children. So you can either continue down that road

495
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: and sort of you know, that pattern exists, or you

496
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: can try to break the cycle. And I think that

497
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: Katie and I were definitely we broke that cycle.

498
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 3: I have attempted abandoning my kids a couple of.

499
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: Hours trying to cry, or like walking.

500
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 4: Through the airport I see like air France, just like

501
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: just book it.

502
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: What happened to mom? I don't know the airport and

503
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 3: air France flight. I've never seen her yet. No, But

504
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting because it's it is you know,

505
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: you I get every I guess everybody's capacity is just

506
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: different based on how they grew up. And now that

507
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: like we're reconnecting, it's just sort of you know, I

508
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: guess I have more empathy or sort of understanding weirdly,

509
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: you know, forget well, I.

510
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: Know this stuff. Listen. I'm not I'm you know, uh,

511
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: no expert by any means, but you know, this generational

512
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: trauma thing is true, right, They very specific of events

513
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: like that, like you're talking about an event where the

514
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: guy just takes off. You know, there's other things that

515
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: that get passed into through our DNA, right generationally, So

516
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: it's like that makes sense, but that an external event

517
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: like that, like that a decision?

518
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah right yeah, yeah, well nature nurture thing. You know,

519
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: how much of that is just a part of our

520
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: DNA and how much of it is completely learned behavior?

521
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: You know, it's probably both, right, both.

522
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to be with.

523
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: Your mother and your father that you were with, right yeah,

524
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: and with like you learned the good side.

525
00:27:50,040 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, let's go back to your family and and

526
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: enough about our abandonment.

527
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: Your problems is your generation. What's going on? There's gotta

528
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: be something.

529
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: Going to school? The nuns could still fucking hit you?

530
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

531
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: Oh god, really were you? Were you one that did

532
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 3: get hit often?

533
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, listen, I was a terror. Every time I

534
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: got hit, I probably had a coming. But I did

535
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: some amazing fucking things. They are very famous in my family. Like,

536
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: uh I was, Uh, it was. It was a great

537
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: thing that I don't know if you guys know this,

538
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: but if you're an altar boy, uh, you get paid

539
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: in cash for doing funeral masses and wedding masses.

540
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 2: Right.

541
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like they give the money to the priest,

542
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: and the priest you know, tips out to the you know.

543
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the mafia.

544
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's on the table.

545
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: You you get your your cut. So I got into

546
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: the Altar Boys. My brother was my brother's three years

547
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: older than me. My my brother we share a room

548
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: together growing up all the time.

549
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: How many siblings four?

550
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: So, uh, my brother and I always had a we

551
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: in the We lived in an apartment first, and we

552
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: were in the attic of the it was a three

553
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: decker it's actually two and a half decker. My brother

554
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: and I were in the attic, and then when we moved,

555
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: my brother and I were in the basement. So we

556
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: were always together and we you know, went to school

557
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: together and everything. All the same friends and brothers of like,

558
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: all his best friends they're my best friends, were their brothers. Right.

559
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: So anyways, my brother got me in the Altar Boys,

560
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: which was fucking great, great cat. Yeah. Anyways, this fucking

561
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: priest was late one day for one of the masses

562
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: and me and this Polish kid, uh, the the other

563
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: priest came in and put out the holy wine, which

564
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: normally the priests, saying the mask would take that out.

565
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: At the last second, he took it out and left it.

566
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: He said, Father Donny was going to be lady being

567
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: above fifteen. Just hang on, we're standing there. I'm telling

568
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: you this has made so much sense. At the time,

569
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: stra Levitz goes, John stra Levitz was his name. He goes, uh,

570
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: he goes. You know, don't they say if you drink

571
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: the holy wine, right it it cleanses your soul by

572
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: the way to sinners talking right, that's right. He's like,

573
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: you take like a sip of that. Everything we've done wrong,

574
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: you know, is I was like, let's go. So we

575
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: go in and then we're like it's barely it doesn't

576
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: even taste like alcohol.

577
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: Boom.

578
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: But you know, next thing we know, we got to

579
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 1: fucking fill up the thing. We drank so much. Now,

580
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes later the police come. We started walking up.

581
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: I was holding the crucifix, and when I got to

582
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: the front, it was a funeral man. And when I

583
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: got to the front, you know, the bodies laid out

584
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: in a coffin in the center out with an Irish

585
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: flag on.

586
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: I got up there and I went to.

587
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: Put the thing in the crucifix in the holder, which

588
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: is right by the the pew facing the audience, and

589
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: it missed, and all of a sudden, I felt drunk

590
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: and I let it go and it hit one of

591
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: the big candles that was next all my.

592
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: And the candle hit the flag.

593
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no fucking way, And at that moment,

594
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: the priest went over and grabbed it. When he was

595
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: grabbing the candle, and I was feeling like, who stralevitch,

596
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: Who's carrying the host.

597
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: Host stuff on the author flag?

598
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: A movie?

599
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: It was fucking I always wanted to put the movie,

600
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: so we barely made it through the mask. He excommunicated us.

601
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: After the communicating my relationship with the Catholic Church.

602
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: Was were your parents super religious or was it just

603
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: kind of what you did?

604
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Because they were they were, except I got in so

605
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: much trouble for that that I got to see behind

606
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: the curtain a little bit because my dad was like, listen,

607
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: he can't excommunicate you. That's fucking bullshit. You to have

608
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: a meeting with the month senior, and I'll never forget

609
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: this because the month senior goes to me, I'd never

610
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: been in the in these offices at directory. It's like

611
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: going behind the curtain at the Wizard of Us. And

612
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: the month Senior said to my dad in front of me,

613
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: he goes, this was this was a lot of money

614
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 1: at the time. He goes, if you give me two

615
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in cash, I wipe his I wipe my dad.

616
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: My dad turned to me and he said get up.

617
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: And I thought, like, I'm really in trouble now. And

618
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: he grabbed my hand and we left, and uh, he said,

619
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm not paying him two hundred dollars, you know, justlet's

620
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: forget about it. And he said, listen, there's all he

621
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: said to me. We were walking home. There's a few

622
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: blocks and you guys, listen, there's a lot of bullshit

623
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: that goes with this church and this is you just

624
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: saw some of it, so don't worry about it. You know,

625
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pay the two hundred dollars. We'll

626
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: find something else. Yeah. So then they put me in the.

627
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: Choir board and that's right.

628
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: I got kicked out for smoking. Right.

629
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: Oh God, I could I I wish I wish I

630
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: could just like see like a shortened documentary version of

631
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: you as a kid in Boston.

632
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: Going, I did just see it. Did you did all yours?

633
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: Did all the siblings get on? Were you guys close

634
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: enough in age to have that real kind of sibling

635
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: either rivalry or community?

636
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: My older brother, we all, we all my cousins in America,

637
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: We all lived in the same neighbor We all went

638
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: to that school. So there was like seventeen of us

639
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: or something.

640
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: So, I mean that's crazy.

641
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everybody, Like my brother is married to

642
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: his high school sweetheart. My sister who's right behind me,

643
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: my Anne Marie, she's two years behind me. She married

644
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: my best friend.

645
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: Wow.

646
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: So and they've been married like this entire time. Yeah.

647
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: Now we have one sister, my sister Betty, who's way

648
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: behind the rest of us. Yeah, it's like a you know,

649
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: she's probably I guess, about fourteen years behind me. So

650
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: she was have a surprise to us.

651
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

652
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: We were like living in a three decker and there

653
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: was like me and my brother in the attic. You know,

654
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: it's like there was no space. Yeah, so, oh, we're

655
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: gonna have another kid, Like, how are we going to

656
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: do that?

657
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Speaker 3: Have you ever been to the Tenement Museum in New York?

658
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: Yes?

659
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 3: So I just went there with my kids. It's awesome

660
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: because you and I did the so my my my

661
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: other in law's Irish. My son is like, there's a

662
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: lot of the Irish with my kids. So we went

663
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: and did the Ireland. It's consorted the famine. They do

664
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: the basically what you do is it's a real it's

665
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: a historic building and they kept it very much the

666
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: way it was back in like the eighteen hundreds when

667
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: these Irish families came over and basically lived in this

668
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 3: big building. There's Irish families, a German family, mostly Germans,

669
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 3: but you go deep into this, the family of the

670
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: More family, and it was you know, when you think

671
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: about the Irish and the Italians coming over into America

672
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: very much second class citizens. Like the way they were

673
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: depicted in the you know, propaganda, the way that the

674
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: Irish were sort of seen in America. It's fascinating and

675
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: it's crazy. And these kids, these families for eight sometimes

676
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: eight kids in these tiny little apartments living in New York,

677
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, coming over from America was like you you

678
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: and and like we're saying, generationally you sort of the Irish,

679
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it made sense that your parents would be like, no,

680
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: we're gonna have another one.

681
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Listen. That was nothing. There was a there were two

682
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: families in my neighborhood that you know, we all went

683
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: to the same school. Like I said, there was an

684
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Italian family I think they had seventeen kids, and then

685
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: there was an Irish family that had I think fourteen, right,

686
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: and some of those married, and there was another family

687
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: of Sullivan's to that, and the family started inter the

688
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: kids started marrying. Yeah, but can you.

689
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 3: Like that's that's weird?

690
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: Am I happenpy for the nuns in that school. Literally,

691
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: like every time you walked in from the from the

692
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: grammar school into the high school, they were like, oh

693
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: another Leary, Oh my god, another school, Oh my god,

694
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: Like they knew it must have been torture for.

695
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: That well, and you just found out that you're like

696
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: cousins with Conan, which I had Conan O'Brien.

697
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: Actually cousins, right, actual third cousins or something years ago.

698
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: In the nineties, right when I first got famous and

699
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: he got the show. My uh, I think it was

700
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: my uncle Patrick. My uncle Patrick was still alive, my

701
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: dad's oldest brother in Ireland, and he they had gotten

702
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: a satellite this so he could watch, you know, all

703
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: kinds of television. And he saw me on Conan. He

704
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: said to one of his kids, he's like that that

705
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: kid that's talking to Dennis. He reminds me of somebody.

706
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: And so my uncle Jerry from America came over to

707
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: visit shortly thereafter. He said, didn't you guys when you

708
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: first went to Worcester get a job from somebody and

709
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: then you were living in a in a three decker

710
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: that was that was rented out to the floor was

711
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: rented out to you by this Irish woman. And he said, yeah,

712
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: we did. He said that was that guy's mother or

713
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: granddad has granddaught That's.

714
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: What it was.

715
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: So anyway, I get this phone call from my uncle

716
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: Jerry and he had written everything down and he shows

717
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: it to me. I had to go on Conan like

718
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: a month later for something. So I went on Conan

719
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: and I said, listen, Buba Buba. Buddy went, oh my god,

720
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: my aunt did live. My granddaunt did live in in Worcester,

721
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: in that neighborhood. And I was like, well, then if

722
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: you look at us, I mean he's all legs. I'm

723
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: all legs. Me think about it when you see when

724
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: you see it, he's got a bigger head than me.

725
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: But look at this is all it's always.

726
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, it really it's really wild.

727
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: No, I know, what, did you have family in the

728
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: Mafia and the Irish Mafia?

729
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: Not that I know.

730
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: Did you ever meet Whitey?

731
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: No? But I knew some guys that worked for Whitey.

732
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

733
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now when you look at your career, I had

734
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: this when I was in COVID where I was like

735
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: look to kind of reflecting on career, like and all

736
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: the things that I want to do and haven't done yet.

737
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: But you've done a lot, and I wonder like where

738
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: do you No of you guys, but I mean where

739
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: do you where? Do where?

740
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 2: Where?

741
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: What is your heart in the most? Like where are

742
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: you happiest when you're working and being creative? Is it

743
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: in stand up? Is it in acting? Is it in writing?

744
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: Is it in story?

745
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: So you guys might be able to relate to this.

746
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: I also want to take this moment to say I

747
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: just remembered this when you were saying that. I saw

748
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: the episode of the Jimmy Fallon Music show that's my

749
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: g Oh yeah, the one that you guys were on

750
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: where you sang he gave you it was That's one

751
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen. It was

752
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: Barry White or Barry Good and you have to sing back. Actually,

753
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean, not only was it funny, but it was

754
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: really fucking amazing what you and you had to do.

755
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: Ariana Grande as as a ya. Anyway, I just remembered that.

756
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: So for me, uh and you guys might relate to

757
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: this because you both sing right. For me, I do

758
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: two stand up concerts a year. They're both for charity.

759
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: One is at the TD Garden and Boston. It's a

760
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: big gig, like you know, fifteen thousand people, and I

761
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: have my band there. I have to do the asshole

762
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: song otherwise people, but I bring some famous friends of

763
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: mine comedians on stage. But that that's every November, and

764
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: right after that, I do one for the Michael J.

765
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: Fox Foundation in New York. Right, they're like they're like

766
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: a week away from each other every year. That thing

767
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: of eight o'clock the show stars and boom. I opened

768
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 1: the show both shows, right, that thing of coming out

769
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: and fucking the crowd is there like that, And I

770
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: never do all material except for the asshole song like

771
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: I do all new stuff like that. Excitement is still

772
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: the greatest fucking high. Yeah, sing in the asshole song

773
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: with my band and you know, people spelling the asshole

774
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: word out at the I mean.

775
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: That's just I mean, look, we know a lot of

776
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: we know a lot of comedians, you know, and it

777
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: just seems like, no matter how successful they hit in

778
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: the other aspects of this business, they're always going to

779
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: go back on the road. I mean, we're great friends

780
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: with Sandler, right, Sandler doesn't need to go on the

781
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: fucking road, but he does. And by the way, his

782
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: special was amazing and Safty directed it and it was

783
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: just so different cool. But anyway, you know, it's just

784
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: I think you can't beat that as a comedian. You

785
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: probably listen.

786
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: I love I love acting, and I love I mean,

787
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, especially you guys know this when you're working

788
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: with people that you're having a fucking blot. Yeah, you're

789
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: working fast, Yeah, moves, there's some improv. Yeah, I fucking

790
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: love it. I lost it, right, But it's not the

791
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: same as you know, fucking the lights come on and

792
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: we're happy to see you, and but you got to

793
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: fucking deliver from eight o'clock until eleven.

794
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: It's so fun.

795
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: Are you are you doing? Are you shooting Dutch in Ireland? Yes,

796
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: it's fun. You know it's actually in Ireland. Yeah, shoot it. Yeah,

797
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: because I'm I have a I have a production deal

798
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: at Fox. We're in the second year of our of

799
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: our deal. And uh so I know Cheryl and everyone

800
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 2: very well and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So

801
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: but so I know all about what you guys have

802
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: been doing because they've been going back and forth. They've

803
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: been in Ireland, this, this and that.

804
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, they have to say, I mean,

805
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: how is that.

806
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: It's great?

807
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: Well, it's great because my family I have some million cousins,

808
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: so they get to come visit set. But yeah, the

809
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: first thing I've done that my son produced, which is

810
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: really interesting.

811
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to talk about that too, working with

812
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: your kid. He's he's on set.

813
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: The writer is this guy Joel Church Cooper who did

814
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: him Brockmeyer with Hanka's Eric. So I love so he's

815
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: a brilliant writer. He has a brilliant staff, and so

816
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: he writes the pages and we do the pages. But

817
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: he's on set and he wants the actors to have input.

818
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: We shoot fast, so we get the page for the pages,

819
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: and then we fucking improvise front within that, not not

820
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: just jerking off. Yeah yeah, you know, like character driven,

821
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, scene driven. We do improv almost every scene,

822
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: so fun. It's really electric. And he's in the other

823
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: room at the monitor with the other writers and Jack

824
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: and they we do something. They come up with an idea,

825
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: so it's really like electric. You go to work all

826
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: fucking day.

827
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a new idea.

828
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: Hey, what about it? I love it? I fucking love

829
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: How did.

830
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: You get to shoot in Ireland?

831
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: I mean, was that well, because it's set in it's

832
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: based on a real army base that that was in

833
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: another lands that got shut down. Yeah, because because of

834
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: what the show's about, like market stuff and prostitution and whatever. Anyways, uh,

835
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: because all that stuff's legal there. So we we were

836
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, we wanted to look like the Netherlands. But

837
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: shooting there, I've shot a movie there and you know,

838
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: it's it's great, but it's not the same as shooting

839
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: in Ireland, which is it's a little bit faster and

840
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: overall better and it looks the same. It's all the

841
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: same plain in terms of planning, so the greens are

842
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: the same, the colors are the same, the weather is

843
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: the same, and the Ireland has just got great facilities.

844
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: It's so beautiful. My I did. I just did a

845
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: film with Hugh Jackman, but he is now in Ireland

846
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: shooting and sends me these photographs that are just insane.

847
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: It's so beautiful.

848
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the part where my parents are fun, which is

849
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: the Southwest. I know I'm prejudiced, but it's just yeah,

850
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable.

851
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: You know, also working with your self like like what

852
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: is that? Like, do you is it? Is it? Is

853
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: it challenging? Does he ever challenge you?

854
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

855
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: So it was interesting because we've been we've been developing

856
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: and working together. Uh you know, he's running one of

857
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: my companies, so creatively, I you know, I've been involved

858
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: with him on stuff, but I haven't acted in something

859
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: that we've done together yet. So this was and I

860
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: knew this was going to be because Joel church Cooper,

861
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: the creator, he likes to be on set and he liked,

862
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: like I said, he wanted he wanted input, So I

863
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: knew it was going to be kind of electric. My son,

864
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, he would come in and like as a

865
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: producer with Joel and have an idea or and sometimes

866
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: he would go, hey, let me talk to you, Dennis.

867
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: Go listen that that thing is not working. That's let's

868
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: get rid of that. Try this. And I you know,

869
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: my son's very tall, so I'd be like, okay.

870
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: And then try it and he would be right.

871
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: Or sometimes he would come in and go, that was great, Dennis,

872
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: that was okay, got his job right. You know. The

873
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: first like a couple of episodes, I was like, this

874
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: is interesting. And then after a while I was like,

875
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's basically right every time he told

876
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: me I'm wrong.

877
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: But you have that playful rapport where you fuck with

878
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: each other though, you know, is that is it playful?

879
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: A little bit, not a lot, because it's we were

880
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: shooting so fast. Yeah, and uh but you know he listen, man,

881
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: he's he was doing the job too. Like I'm I'm

882
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: a producer, but I'm when I'm in the scene, I'm

883
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: just an actor. Yeah, somebody Joe will tell me like,

884
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: that's that sucks. That that's terrible. Let's let's go in

885
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: the other direction. On an improv thing, yeah, you know,

886
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: or even on a blocking thing. I'm like, try this.

887
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, now do you guys. Do you guys, do

888
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: you guys live near each other? Do you live to

889
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: get you know, like off the set. He's your son,

890
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: So do you guys hang out? Do you go to

891
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: dinners or is it?

892
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: I didn't really sometimes, but he really, you know, we

893
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of time to hang out.

894
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so good.

895
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: Like I got to direct. I got to direct my

896
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: dad in a short Kurt and oh it was so

897
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: much fun. But he gave me so much, like just

898
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: for just fun. Like he would sit behind me. He

899
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't leave, so even if I was if I was directed,

900
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: you know, he could go home. He just wanted to

901
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: stay and watch me direct. So he'd sit behind me

902
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: at Video Village and he would he would just fuck

903
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: with me the whole time. He'd be like, you're sure

904
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 3: you don't want to get a cut away with that

905
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 3: ashbair just in case you lived in the editing room.

906
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, Paul, no, I don't need it every time.

907
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: Be sure you don't want to come in from the window.

908
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: I never thought about the like I directed Paul in

909
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: that pilot presentation as well.

910
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: He was awesome to direct.

911
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah I have so you call him Paw yeah. Yeah.

912
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: He didn't want to be called dad because we had

913
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: a dad, and he didn't want to be called Kurt

914
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: because he was more than just Kurt. So we came

915
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: up with paw that's yeah.

916
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: Can we just can I just say I love that

917
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 3: your commitment. Like you you do your charity. You're talking

918
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: about your charity gigs, but you've been working with firefighters

919
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: and supporting firefighters since like two thousand and How did

920
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 3: that come about for you?

921
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 2: Was it the show?

922
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: The show?

923
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Well, the show came after my cousin, Jerry Lucy wanted

924
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: to be a firefighter, you know, that was the thing

925
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: he wanted to do, and he had first he was

926
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: driving trucks, but he eventually took the fire test and

927
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: was on the waiting list and became a firefighter and

928
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: Worcester for the Worcester Fire Department, which is a very busy,

929
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, urban department. And of all the guys we

930
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: grew up with, like literally like probably thirty five guys

931
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: between my class and my sister's in Mariice class and

932
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: my brother's class in high school, thirty five of those

933
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: guys became firefighters. So that whole department was full of

934
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: people we knew. So there was a huge, famous fire

935
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: that killed six guys in December of ninety nine. It

936
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: was a precursor almost to nine to eleven because it

937
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: was a huge warehouse downtown that floated, and my cousin, Jerry,

938
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: and his partner were the guys that were initially trapped.

939
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: They were looking for a homeless couple that they heard

940
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: were living in the building, but the homeless couple had

941
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: left the building. They didn't know that anyways. The four

942
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: other guys that went in to find them were led

943
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: by this guy, Tommy Spencer, who also grew up with us,

944
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: who went to school with us. He was at my class.

945
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: We started the foundation to help the Livery Firefighters Foundation

946
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: to help those families because there was I forget how

947
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: many kids were left behind of those six guys. And

948
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: then my cousin was like an adamant guy about funding

949
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: for the fire the Worcester Fire Department because they were

950
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: getting their budgets slashed all the time. So we were

951
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: just going to help that department. And then I had

952
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: a couple of really close friends in the New York

953
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: department and they had come up to help look for

954
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: the bodies in Worcester because it was the building collapsed

955
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: in on itself. So when nine to eleven it happened,

956
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, they a couple of my friends survived, and

957
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: this one guy, Terry Quinn, said, you need to bring

958
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: the foundation here because we're going to have to help

959
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: this department and these families. So that's how we kind

960
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: of opened up, and then we've just been helping departments

961
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: ever since the year. It's crazy, by the way, because

962
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: we started twenty five years ago and the idea was

963
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: we'd go out of business, but they keep cutting fire

964
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: departments mean even the wildfires out here.

965
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, where I live in the Palisades, and.

966
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: So it's this department has been underfunded out here for years.

967
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: There are vehicles sitting unused, unfaced because there's no it's

968
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: a fixed So water is one issue, but the it's

969
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: it's big departments like the FD and Y and the

970
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: l A f D, the Boston they all have their

971
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: budgets cut. But it's also small, tiny, little departments. Yeah,

972
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: volunteer department world. So we haven't gone out of business

973
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: where we're giving out more money every year. It's crazy.

974
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: It's amazing, that's great.

975
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: I want you to come back with your son.

976
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fun.

977
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: That would be awesome. Yeah.

978
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: I just I just I just did a movie in

979
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: Toronto and I just got back with my son. Was

980
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: in it.

981
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: Really, your son's an actor.

982
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: He is now.

983
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is now and he did five times and

984
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: it was a real part. I worked nineteen days, the

985
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: kid worked twenty two days. So he was in the

986
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: fucking movie. And it was really an especial experience for me,

987
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, to have him up there as a seventeen

988
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: year old kid living together. You know, I had this

989
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: and then we'll go. But I had this vision, you know,

990
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: like a montage where he's gonna we're gonna live together.

991
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a couple of beers and we're gonna cuddle,

992
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: and he's gonna watch movies with me. He's gonna turn

993
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 2: back into a ten year old. Essentially, we're going to

994
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 2: have a snowball.

995
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

996
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, it's gonna be amazing.

997
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna bond. This is gonna be the greatest moment

998
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: of his life and my life. And we get there,

999
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: we get to the house. I overspent on a house

1000
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: because I wanted to make it perfect for him and

1001
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: he goes to his fucking room and the door closes.

1002
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're back in fucking la again. I'm like,

1003
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: what is going on? What happened in the cuddles man?

1004
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: And I invited him, like, come in my room, let's

1005
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: watch a movie together, and he's just like, I'm okay,

1006
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm good guy. He the fuck no, I know, but

1007
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: I had this vision that he's away from those friends.

1008
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: How was he set? Was he nervous?

1009
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a little nervous, but it was really

1010
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: amazing to watch from day one till the last day

1011
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: how he had gotten comfortable and just more in his

1012
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: skin a little bit and less afraid. Because this was

1013
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: he went from zero to sixty. He did an acting class,

1014
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: he had an audition, and then Doug got the gig

1015
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: and bang, he's on set and everyone was great. I

1016
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: was me and Alia Silverstone and she was amazing with him,

1017
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 2: and it was fucking rad. Yeah, he was a little nervous,

1018
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: but it was really amazing to watch from day one

1019
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: till the last day how he had gotten comfortable and

1020
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: just more in his skin a little bit, and less afraid.

1021
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: Because this was he went from zero to sixty. He

1022
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: did an acting class. He had an audition and then

1023
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: Doug got the gig and bang he's on set and

1024
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: everyone was great. I was me and Alicia Silverstone and

1025
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: she was amazing with him, and it was is fucking roun.

1026
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: My son. My son, on the other hand, is at

1027
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: n y U Tish wants you know, is an actor

1028
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: and is like in school and was and is like

1029
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: just you know, more debt, more debt. And then Wilder

1030
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: gets this job and he's like, are you fucking kidding

1031
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: me right now? I was like, I'm just like, I'm like,

1032
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 3: he gets a job, like I need money.

1033
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. But it was a beautiful and amazing experience. Yeah,

1034
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 2: you know for sure, you know, working with your.

1035
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 3: Kids, Yeah, it's so fun. We we're so lucky to

1036
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 3: do to be in a creative business and actually like

1037
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 3: have work.

1038
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: We are lucky. But like you guys know, and he'll

1039
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: find out, right, you have to not only be good, yeah,

1040
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: and you know your craft, you have to get better,

1041
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: keep getting better.

1042
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 3: That's what I say to my son all the time.

1043
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, it never it never changes. Your constantly constantly

1044
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: learning new things, and you're always trying to be better

1045
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: than the last time.

1046
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: Like it's just And then then as far as the

1047
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 2: nepotism shit goes to where I love what you said,

1048
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: we're the least because yes, the foot can get in

1049
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: the door, there's no doubt about that. But there's no

1050
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 2: other business where you actually have to prove yourself to

1051
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: actually make it. Meaning yeah, you know Kate's son, my son.

1052
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: They can have the opportunity, but they still have to

1053
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: be good. No one's gonna hire you.

1054
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: You can't force someone to like your art, right, You

1055
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: can't force them to do it by the way.

1056
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: You know, like when I like talking about that, when

1057
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: my dad was a mechanic right by tray, but his

1058
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: second job was like a handyman for a real estate company.

1059
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: So he painted apartments and you know, did almost everything plumbing, electrical.

1060
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: So my dad taught me how to paint apartments and

1061
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: I work for him in the summer when I was

1062
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: in high school, right, and he taught me how to

1063
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: paint apartments and scrape and so basically he was telling

1064
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: me like, listen, this is something if you do this

1065
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: the right way, which I'm going to make you do,

1066
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: this is something you can use. You can always paints always,

1067
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: and so he was teaching me a craft, right that

1068
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: he and he taught me the right way. And by

1069
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: the way, I fucking did that. When I was in college.

1070
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: My my work study job was painting the dorms when

1071
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: they were empty during the summertime.

1072
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.

1073
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: I was really good at so, like you teach your kids,

1074
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: you know.

1075
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for coming on for your

1076
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: Yes we did. We got picked up last week. Yeah,

1077
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 3: we're so excited.

1078
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, finished that show. It's really good.

1079
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: You have a great cast.

1080
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: Thanks. They just they entered the front door.

1081
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: Is the throw in all all the way through.

1082
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: In and out? Yeah, he's in and out of the show. Yeah.

1083
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: Ship. The fucking The thing that made me laugh so

1084
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: hard was when he first gives you the team and

1085
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: everybody else leaves the room and your little speech like

1086
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: the fucking brothers are really funny to each other. It's

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Speaker 1: really fun.

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Speaker 2: It's the best good show.