1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdicus Centater, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: you and Senator I got to say every once in 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: a while, you get a little feisty on Twitter. And 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: one of your tweets has now gone to fourteen million 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: people that have seen it, and a follow up tweet 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: is in the million plus range and it dealt with electricity. 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: I did not see this one coming. I'm not gonna lie. 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: Well, Gavin Newsom, it seems, has gotten a new Twitter. 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: He's hired some staff that I'm sure are blue haired 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: transgender freaks, but they've decided that way they're going to 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: make Gavin the hero of the left is to tweet 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: in all caps and try to do everything they can 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: to sound like Donald Trump. And by the way, it 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: is working in that left wing cooks across the country 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: are sending money to Gavin Newsom. It's raising him a 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: whole lot of money. And so he has gone he 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: has gone crazy on Twitter. But he's getting dunked on badly. 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about one example where he's 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: trying to blame high electriciy prices on Donald Trump, and well, 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: let's just say the facts are not backing them. 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: Up. 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 4: We're going to break that down for you. 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: We're also going to talk to you about a remarkable story, 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: which is a major Democrat think tank has put out 25 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: a list of forbidden words, a list of words. They 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: concluded that when Democrats say them, they sound like out 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: of touch freaks. Now, I got to say, I agree 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: with this think tank, but I don't think Democrats are 29 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: going to follow this advice. It really is striking, though, 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: to show just how out of touch they are that 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: they have to be told what sort of words make 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: you sound like a scolding schoolmarm or a radical in 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: a university faculty lounge. And finally, we're going to talk 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: about a Supreme Court decision that upheld the Trump administration's 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: canceling of hundreds of millions of dollars of DEI grants. 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: It was a terrific victory for common sense. It was 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: five to four, it was closely divided. We're going to 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: break it down, explain what the court did, what the 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: divide was, and how President Trump is now able to 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: cancel massive amounts of money that we're going to completely 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: woke political ideological projects. 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: All of you know that I am a pro Second 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: Amendment guy. I've shared on numerous occasions how caring my 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: firearms saved my life from a gang related attack. But 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: for those of you out there with family members who 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: may not be comfortable having a gun by their side, 47 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: you still want them to be able to protect themselves 48 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: and others in times of danger. And that's where the 49 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: Burno launcher comes in. Berna is a handheld pistol that 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: fires both kinetic rounds and chemical irritants to separate you 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: from an attacker. And I'm here with Josh Cherrard from 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: Berna to share the true story of how an avid 53 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: hiker uses Burne to stop an attacking mountain lion. Josh, 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: tell us what happened. 55 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: Hey, you know, Jason is an avid hiker deciding to 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: take his family out on a hiper he's done several times, 57 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: super easy, high but super fun, all armed with his Berna. 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: You know, this is one of those things where he 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: didn't expect to see anything, and all of a sudden, 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: on this hike, this mountain lion appears out of no 61 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: wheay or of course, he sends his family on down 62 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: the trail, watches the line for a few minutes, realizing 63 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: it's not going away. So uses his burner, fires a 64 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: few rounds to scare it off, continues down the trail, 65 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: but unfortunately this mountain line appears again, at which point 66 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: he realized he was going to have to up his 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: aggression with that BURNA fire's four rounds was able to 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: strike the mountain lion all four times at chest and torso, 69 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: at which point that mountain lion airs off, never to 70 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 3: be seen again. These guys make it down the trail 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: back to their car and back to home safely. Fortunately, 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: this is all it took to make sure and get 73 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: this family back home safe off a hike that could 74 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: have taken an obvious turn for the worst. 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: And I'm going to guess that berner has been used 76 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: to stop other types of animal attacks as well. 77 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we get stories all the time of users with 78 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: whether it be dogs or other wildlife. We even have 79 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: an ecological park whose security carries burna four bears out 80 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: in the smoky mountains out there. That's been effective there 81 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: as well, So once again, not just a tool for people, 82 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: but very affective against animals as well. 83 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: It's really incredible if you want to get more information 84 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: on how you and your family member can protect themselves 85 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: with the burner launcher, go to burna dot com. That's 86 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: by r NA dot com. Again by RNA dot com, 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: burna dot com. All right, Senator, so let's talk about 88 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: this interesting tweet and Democrats anything that goes up price 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: wise right now, it's automatically Donald Trump's fault. That is 90 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: the simplistic liberal logic. 91 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: One oh one. 92 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: Anything that they can blame Trump for, They're gonna try 93 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: it every time they put out this tweet. Gavin Newso 94 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: clearly acting as if he's running against the whole maga world. 95 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: He's obviously launched his presidential campaign and is just trying 96 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: to take these easy shots. The problem is you hit 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: him back hard with the fact. So let's talk about 98 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: what he tweeted at first, and then what you said 99 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: in response. 100 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: Well, sure, he sent out a tweet that said electricity 101 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: p have gone up ten percent since January. Great work, 102 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. And so you know, looks as Gavin Newsom 103 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: is wont to do. He is fact free, he is 104 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: data free, he is evidence free. He is usually reality free. 105 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: But he's pretty slick and drives a message. And so 106 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: I responded, actually actually relying on AI and I'm kind 107 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: of enjoying doing this online, and so I just asked 108 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: GROC to chime in, and so I responded, hey, GROC, 109 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: electricity prices have gone up ten percent since January. In 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: what cities and states are. 111 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: They the highest? 112 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 2: So I had no political content to it. I just asked, 113 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: where is this the worst? And today we've got fourteen 114 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: million views on that. Here's what Grok came back with, 115 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: based on August twenty twenty five data from EIA and 116 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: other sources, highest state rates number one Hawaii, number two California, 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: number three, Connecticut, on four Massachusetts, number five Rhode Island. 118 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: And then highest city rates number one Honolulu, Hawaii, number 119 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: two San Francisco, California, number three New York, New York, 120 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: number four Boston, Massachusetts, and number five Hartford, Connecticut. And 121 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: so I looked at that. Just that grock response has 122 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: one point two million views. My initial querry has fourteen million, 123 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: And so I responded to that. I said, hey, Grock, 124 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: what do the five states with the highest electricity rates 125 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: all have in common? And it wasn't difficult to figure 126 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: this out. But here's what GROC responded based on EIA data, 127 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: The top five Hawaii, California, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island all 128 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: have democratic governors and strong renewable energy mandates. Factors include 129 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: high fuel import costs e g. Hawaii, urban demand and 130 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: infrastructure investments. Rates vary by policy and geography. So it's 131 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: an amazing example of how Look I didn't even bother 132 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: to argue with Gavin. I just simply pointed to facts. 133 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: And the beauty of it is I didn't need adjectives. 134 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: I didn't need to make any claims. I just need 135 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: to ask the simple question, where is it the highest? 136 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: Now I do the answer, And the thing about it 137 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: is Gavin knew the answer. Electricity rates are incredibly high 138 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: in California, the second highest of any state in the country. 139 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: Why because of the Waco left wing policies Gavin Newsom 140 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: the legislature put in place. That's true of Democrat legislatures. 141 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: And yet here's what Gavin Newsom wants to do. He 142 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: wants to tell Californians, you know, your high electricity rates 143 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: is because Donald Trump is there, and it's fundamentally dishonest. 144 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: And look, that's one of the reasons Ben, you and 145 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: I do this podcast is it's designed to give information 146 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: the left. You know, if you think about the difference 147 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: between being a Democrat or Republican. Today, Democrats, their policies 148 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: don't work. Their policies are a train wreck. Whether it's 149 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: open borders, whether it is boys and girls sports, whether 150 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: it is massive spending and high taxes and job killing regulations, 151 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: whether it is appeasement abroad, whether it is letting terrorists 152 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: into this country. All of their policies are a mess. 153 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: So what do they do. They have to spend, they 154 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: have to obviuskate. And there is a fundamental dynamic in politics, 155 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: which is Liberals win when they effectively obfuse skate their 156 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: views because their policy views don't work. Conservatives win when 157 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: we effectively articulate what it is we believe why, because 158 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: our policy views work. They are common sense. Most people 159 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: with any sense, they want secure borders, they want law 160 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: enforcement protecting their family, they want their constitutional rights protected, 161 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 2: they want low prices, low energy prices. 162 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: And so. 163 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: That tweet exchange, I think really embodies much of what 164 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: I'm trying to do speaking out in the public debate, 165 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: but much of what we're trying to do with this 166 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: podcast as well. 167 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Well. Let's dive into alsos so people understand and they 168 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: may say them, says, well, hold on a second, why 169 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: is it that one state has higher prices than another state. 170 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: Why that you know California is higher. Is it just 171 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: because quote everything costs more in California? Can you break 172 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: down explain to people how this is such a state 173 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: wide issue. This is where your actual state government matters 174 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: and the policies of your state, and it's going to 175 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: dictate the pricing you see. 176 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's a whole host of things. One chunk of 177 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: it is taxes, and you have big blue states they 178 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: tax everything they see, and so one of the reasons 179 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: when you fill up your tank in California it costs 180 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: so much, as you've got massive state and local gasoline taxes. 181 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: But not only that, when it comes to electricity generation, 182 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: when you put mandates, as blue states do, when you 183 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: put massive renewable energy mandates, that drive up the cost 184 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: of generating electricity, uh consistently, the cheapest form of generating 185 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: electricity is either coal or natural gas. States like California 186 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: don't want you to use coal or natural gas, so 187 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: they mandate instead you use very very expensive forms of 188 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 2: electricity generation, and that ends up driving costs. But it's 189 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: not just the generation it's also getting the fuel. It's 190 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: also uh building the transmission lines UH, the environmental permitting, 191 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: the regulator, the regulatory barriers, the lawsuits UH that that 192 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: that that are entailed in big blue states. Every one 193 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: of these drives up costs UH and those costs are 194 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: paid by consumers. On the other hand, when you have 195 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: red states, red states make it make it easier to 196 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: build power generation that is more cost effective UH and 197 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: to build transmission lines UH. And and it's interesting if 198 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: you you look at the state of Texas and and 199 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying renewable energy is necessarily bad. That 200 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: the number one producer of wind energy in America is 201 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: the state of Texas. The number one producer of solar 202 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: energy in the in the country is the state of Texas. 203 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: But if you look at how it happens in Texas, 204 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: that's not subject to a mandate. And so we also 205 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: have quite a bit of energy that is generated via 206 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: natural gas and some that is generated via coal as well. 207 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: In California. 208 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: By driving it overwhelmingly to renewables, especially renewables that if 209 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: the weather is uncooperative, you know, sometimes the sun is 210 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: shining and the wind is blowing, and wind and solar 211 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: works fine. But other times, if it's overcast, you may 212 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: not have any sunshine. You have days when the wind 213 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: doesn't blow. And so if you're if you're powering a 214 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: power grid, you need electricity that can be generated day in, 215 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: day out, and that typically comes from either natural gas 216 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: or coal, or the. 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: Alternative is nuclear. 218 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: And when we have nuclear energy in Texas, but again, 219 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: blue states make it incredibly difficult to build nuclear as well. 220 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: Every time you put it additional man, I'll give you 221 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: another example. Let's take Massachusetts. Massachusetts, the cost of natural 222 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: gas to heat your home is massively high, and one 223 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: of the big reasons there's enormous natural gas deposits in Pennsylvania, 224 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: the Marcella Shale. It would be very simple to bring 225 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: that natural gas from Pennsylvania to Massachusetts. Well, you know what, 226 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: the state of New York has decided New Yorkers don't 227 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: want natural gas, so the costs are very high there, 228 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: and they've decided no one else in New England wants it, 229 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: so New York will not let them build a pipe 230 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: across New York to get the natural gas to New England. 231 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: And so as a result, what they've been doing is 232 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: importing their energy from Russia instead. By the way, it's 233 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: worse for the environment. It pollutes more, it emits more carbon, 234 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: and it also does things like enrich Vladimir Putin. But 235 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: that is left wing liberal logic is no, no, no, no, 236 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: we think oil and ass is bad, so therefore no 237 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: pipelines whatsoever, and we'll just buy Russian gas and pollute 238 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: even more. 239 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: That's where facts matter. 240 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: Final question on this, have you seen any fact checks 241 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: yet come out on Gavin Newsom in this tweet? Because 242 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: I was scouring the internet as you and I were 243 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: chatting earlier, I can't find a single fact checker that's 244 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: come out saying, hey, you're not telling all the facts here. 245 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: This is a misleading tweet, misleading statement, misleading anything. It's 246 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: like no one's doing it but you. 247 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: Well. 248 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the so called fact checkers are not in fact objective. 249 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: They are not checking facts. 250 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: Things like outfits like PolitiFact are left wing editorial outlets, 251 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: and they mask their often deceptive editorial views as objective 252 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: fact checking. It really is. It's amazing the things. Number One, 253 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: they inevitably fact check conservatives many many more times than liberals. 254 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: Sometimes they'll fact check liberals on some innocuous statement just 255 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: to conclude it true, and and the bias with which 256 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: they have it. You know, one of the funniest fact 257 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: checks PolitiFact once I said years ago that that that 258 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: that in Iran they celebrate Death to America Day, and 259 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: then that they have a holiday that they celebrate Death 260 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: to America Day. And PolitiFact fact checked me and and 261 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: they concluded, well, yes, it is true that there is 262 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: a holiday that's actually on the official calendar uh in 263 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: in Iran. And and and the holiday is is the 264 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: date that that the Iranian radicals and revolutionaries took over 265 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: the American embassy and took Americans hostage. That's on the calendar. 266 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: And it is true they celebrated every year. And it's 267 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: true as well that mobs go out in the streets 268 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: and and and and they chant Death to America on 269 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: this day every year, and those chants are frequently led 270 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: by the Ayatollah. All of that political PolitiFact concludes true, true, true, true, 271 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: They say, but you know, the holiday is not technically 272 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: called Death to America Day on the calendar, so we 273 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: rate this flo out false. And I literally doubled over laughing. 274 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: It was the most absurd I actually retweeted their fact 275 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: check and said, read this because the facts that they 276 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: lay out are exactly what I said. They make my 277 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: case for it, but ideologically because they're leftists. When the 278 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: Iatola chance death to America, apparently the PolitiFact editors are 279 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: chatting right along with them, so they see nothing to 280 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: complain about. So Gavin Newsom's not going to get fact 281 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: checked on this. He is going to I mentioned that 282 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: liberals win when they obvious gate. Well, to Gavin Newsom's credit, 283 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: he is much like Bill Clinton. If you remember years ago, 284 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: a backhanded complimented Bill Clinton. It was said he's an 285 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: unusually good liar. Well, Gavin Newsom, like Bill Clinton, is 286 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: an unusually good liar. And the fact checkers are in 287 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: the business of lying, so they're not going to be 288 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: fact checking what Gavin Newsom says. 289 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, great point there. I want to move to something 290 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: else that's happening, and this is a very interesting Democrats 291 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: are going back to their wokeness and adding new words 292 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: and phrases that you shouldn't be able to say. Apparently 293 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: this is part of their strategy to reach more voters 294 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: because they're hemorrhaging voters all over the place. Some of 295 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: the things they want to bring back and with a 296 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: vengeance center is not breastfeeding of a child, but it's 297 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: chest feeding of a child. That's just one example of 298 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: this lunacy. And they're rolling it out like, Hey, this 299 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: is how we're going to get people to come back 300 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: to us. 301 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's very amusing. This democrat think tank Third Way 302 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: has put out a list of forty five words and 303 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: phrases that they're asking Democrats please stop saying this, because 304 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: you guys sound like kooks when you say this. And 305 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: Politico's Playbook reported on it. Here here's what Playbook said 306 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: the Blue Blacklist. In a new memo, the center left 307 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: think tank third Way is circulating a list of forty 308 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: five words and phrases they want Democrats to avoid using, 309 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: alleging the terms put quote a wall between us and 310 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: everyday people of all races, religions, and ethnicities. It's a 311 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: set of words that third Way suggests quote people simply 312 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: do not say, yet they hear them from democrats. And 313 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: these manned words they span six categories, from quote therapy 314 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: speak to quote explaining away crime. And they put in 315 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: sharp relief a party that the authors say makes democrats 316 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: quote sound like the extreme, divisive, elitist, and obfuscatory enforcers 317 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: of wokeness. And the third way argues that quote to 318 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: please the few, we have alienated the many, especially on 319 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: culture issues, where our language sounds superior, haughty, and arrogant. 320 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: All right, so let's let's go through some of the 321 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: words that Democrats now are supposed to not say. 322 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: Number one, privilege. Number two, Yeah, that's a bad one. 323 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: Violence, as in environmental violence, not actual violence like mugging 324 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 2: or murder. That violence they don't say, but environmental violence, 325 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: dialoguing whatever that is triggering, which you and I believe 326 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: in triggering. But I think we have a very different 327 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: meaning for that than than leftist when we talk about 328 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: triggering other othering. One on Earth is othering othering othering, microaggression, 329 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: holding space, body shaming, subverting norms, systems of oppression, cultural appropriation, 330 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: overton window, existential threat to the climate, democracy, economy, radical transparency, stakeholders, 331 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: the unhoused, food insecurity, housing insecurity, person who immigrated, birthing 332 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: person cis gender dead naming. 333 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: Can we go back to birthing person real quick? That's 334 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: the one that, like I think most Yeah, that would 335 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: be a mom. But they don't want to say that. 336 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: They don't think it's a woman they can have a child, 337 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: even though it's only women they can have children, So 338 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: they want to say it's a birthing person and this 339 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: is supposed to like bring them more people. It's incredible, 340 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: isn't it. 341 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: All Right? 342 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: I've told this story on Verdict before, but we actually 343 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: had a hearing in judiciary where where a Democrat senator 344 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: made multiple references to. 345 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: Birthing people. And afterwards I came up to him and I. 346 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: Said, dude, is your party really that whack job crazy 347 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: that you can't say mom? 348 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: And he just nodded and said, yeah, like that's who 349 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: they are. All right. 350 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: Let me finish this last heteroonormative patriarchy lgbt QIA plus 351 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: element OP. I added the element op bipock Alley ship 352 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 2: or ally. 353 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: Ship or whatever the heck. 354 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: It is incarcerated people and involuntary confinement. 355 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: So these are the knaughty words. 356 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: Now, look, I'm old enough to remember George Carlin's list 357 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: of the seven words you can't say on radio, and 358 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: since you are a radio host, you probably know those 359 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: seven words. Because this is a family show, I'm not 360 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: going to repeat the seven words you can't say on radio. 361 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: But it is a classic bit of stand up comedy. 362 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: And this is now I guess the inverse of that, 363 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: this is the words democrats should stop saying because they 364 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: make them sound like clowns. 365 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: Okay, you'll love this center So true story. When I 366 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: was gosh really young in radio, I want to say sixteen, fifteen, sixteen, 367 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Every year you had to do your 368 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: broadcasting license interview and at the radio station hrs who'd 369 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: go meet with and you'd have to write down those 370 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: words you're not allowed to say on their right, like 371 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: the seven words so that you're not allowed to do. 372 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: So everyone in the radio station they came to me 373 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: when it happened. They started laughing. They're like, hey, Ben, 374 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: make sure you when you do it, tell them that 375 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: you're dyslexis out of a learning disability, because then you 376 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: do the tests orally instead of writing it down. So 377 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: everyone went into the HR department and you said the 378 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: words out loud. The HR lady who was like seventy 379 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: five years old, and she would just shake her head, 380 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: and then she finally looked at me. She's like, you're 381 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: not dyslexic. I'm like, no, ma'am. They all told me 382 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: how to do this. She's like, yeah, you're like the 383 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: seventeenth person a day. So there's your little Back in 384 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: the day of radio, everybody at the station, no one 385 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: knew how to write anything. Everyone wanted to go in 386 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: here and just mess with her, like where the words 387 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to send me here? And of course 388 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: you would enunciate them like perfectly, and she would just 389 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: be cringing, and she's like, you don't have a learning disability. 390 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, ma'am, I don't. They just they put 391 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: me up to it. She's like, yeah, so did everyone else. 392 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: It was the best every year. 393 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate your refraining from going through the list 394 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: right now. But look, here's what Third Way said as 395 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: to the reason they put out their list. Quote, we're 396 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: doing our best to get Democrats to talk like normal 397 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: people and stop talking like they're leading a seminar at Antioch. Look, 398 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: this is one of the few times when I'm gonna 399 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: say I agree with Democrats when they say words like 400 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: that that they sound like freaks. 401 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: But there's a reason for that, because they are. 402 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: It's not just the words. Notice the memo doesn't say 403 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: to stop believing this stuff. The memo doesn't say to stop, 404 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: you know, destroying jobs. The memo doesn't say, hey, let's 405 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: actually secure the border. The memo doesn't say, if we 406 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: find a murderer, let's arrest the murderer and make him 407 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: what is it, an incarcerated person. No, no, no, They're perfectly 408 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: fine with letting murders and rapists go. They just don't 409 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: want you to say it in a way that people 410 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: realize what they're doing. 411 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: I want to move to another big story as well, 412 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: and this is one that is not going to get 413 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: a lot of media attention. So I hope everyone listening 414 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: will actually pay attention to this. Because there was a 415 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: big victory from the Supreme Court allowing Donald Trump to 416 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: tax millions of dollars center and funding for DEI related grants. 417 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: This is huge. 418 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 2: It is so it was a five to four vote 419 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: and it allowed the Trump administration to terminate seven hundred 420 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: and eighty three million dollars worth of grants, their grants 421 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: from the National Institute of Health, and they were granted 422 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: that they were canceled because of the administration's policy positions 423 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 2: on diversity, equity, and inclusion. And gender ideology. And the 424 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 2: Trump administration quite reasonably said we're not going to give 425 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: away three seven hundred and eighty three million dollars for 426 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: DEI for And these were awards that were studying all 427 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: sorts of ideological objectives that and in many instances were 428 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: these are awards that were granted because of the research race. 429 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: They made that a criterion. And listen, I got to say, 430 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: there is an important role for scientific and medical research, 431 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: and IHDS does good work. And you know, early in 432 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: the Trump administration, I was flying from DC back to 433 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: Houston and a woman came up to me on the 434 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: plane and she said she was a cancer researcher. 435 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 4: At m d Anderson. And she said she was very worried. 436 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 2: About funding getting cut and and and she wanted to 437 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: express that to me. And I said, listen, thank you 438 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: for the work you do. MD Anderson is incredible. They 439 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: do phenomenal work fighting cancer. And I said, everyone, or 440 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: at least everyone with any sense, agrees that we ought 441 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: to be doing cancer research. And part of the reason, 442 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: a big part of the reason you want to scrutinize 443 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: and you want to cut out wasteful expenditures, things like 444 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: funding you know, transgender education in Guatemala, which was one 445 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: of the was one of the USA I D grants 446 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 2: that the administration canceled is so that you can spend 447 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: the money where it actually should be. And so seven 448 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three million dollars in NIH grants that 449 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: is not actually going to disease and curing disease and 450 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: helping people who are suffering, but instead are granted based 451 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: on ideology. That is an absolute waste and it is wrong. 452 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 2: But I got to tell you, the ruling from the 453 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 2: court was only five to four. It was very narrow, 454 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: and it had a bit of a complicated, bit of 455 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: a complicated lineup. So four justices dissented. The four who 456 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: dissented were Chief Justice Roberts, Justice sotom Or, Justice Kagan, 457 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: and Justice Jackson. 458 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 4: So you had the Chief Justice plus the four liberals. 459 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: Now you had four conservatives, Justice Thomas, Justice Ledo, Justice Gorsich, 460 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: and Justice Kavanaugh, who would have granted the Trump administration's 461 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: request entirely. And so what happened was plaintiffs had their 462 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 2: grants canceled, they went and filed a lawsuit in Massachusetts 463 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: because of course, in this law fair that they deliberately 464 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: seek out left wing judges at extreme left wing jurisdictions, 465 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 2: and so Massachusetts and San Francisco have been incredibly popular 466 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: places for left wing attorneys general and radical groups to 467 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: file lawsuits. And the district judge, with a district judge 468 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: did is two things. Number One, vacated the guidance that 469 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: the Trump administration had issued saying they were not going 470 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: to give funding to DEI. And then secondly, the district 471 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: court ordered the Trump administration give the seven hundred and 472 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: eighty three million dollars to these grant recipients. That went 473 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: up on appeal to the Court of Appeals, and the 474 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: Court of Appeals agreed with the District Court and again 475 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: ordered the Trump administration give the money. Now it went 476 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: to the US Supreme Court and the Supreme Court five 477 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: to four said no, you do not have to give 478 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: the money. So the seven hundred and eighty three million 479 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: dollars the Trump administration is holding on to it. And 480 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 2: the deciding vote on this was Justice Amy Coney Barrett, 481 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: who voted with the liberals on part of the case 482 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: and the conservatives on part of the case. So she 483 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: voted with the conservatives on you don't have to give 484 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: the money. And the basis for it, by the way, 485 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: is what the five justices said is the lawsuit was 486 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: filed in the wrong place. That the lawsuit should have 487 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 2: been filed in the Court of Federal Claims, which is 488 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: where if you have a breach of contract case against 489 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: the federal government, if you have a contract and they 490 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: broke it under federal law, the place to bring that 491 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: case is the Court of Federal Claims. It's a specialized 492 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: court that exists to adjudicate breach of contract cases against 493 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: the government. They did not bring this in the Court 494 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 2: of Federal Claims. They brought it just in an ordinary 495 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: federal district court. So five to four the court said, 496 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: wrong court. They don't have jurisdiction to decide this, so 497 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: they don't have to give the money. Now, Justice bar 498 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: Bar sided with the liberals in refusing to reverse the 499 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 2: district courts vacating the guidance on Dei. So the guidance 500 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: on Dei is currently blocked, although that lawsuit will continue, 501 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: so it's not necessarily permanently blocked. And she declined to 502 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: have the Supreme Court reverse that decision. And so this 503 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: was at the end of the day, this really should 504 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: have been nine to ozho, but I'm glad it was 505 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: at least five to four the right way because that 506 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: means that this money doesn't have to go out the door. 507 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly big that didn't have to go out 508 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: the door. Moving forward, does this also have some sort 509 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: of pressent that the president will be harassed? Maybe a 510 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: little bit less or do you think Democrats say will 511 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: harass no matter what. We'll argue wherever we can, the 512 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: liberal court we can find, and that will at least 513 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: slow him down. 514 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 515 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: Look, the Democrats are going to keep trying, and the 516 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: left wing activist groups are going to keep trying. This 517 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: is their next general of lawfare. Just like what before 518 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: when they indicted him four times. That was an effort 519 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 2: to use the courts, to use law enforcement to stop 520 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: President Trump, but also to stop the voters from re 521 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: electing him. They failed in that. This is now their 522 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: effort and it is relentless. Every day of the Trump presidency. 523 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: He's going to be sued, the administration is going to 524 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: be sued. I will say the Supreme Court, we talked 525 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: about this in an earlier podcast, It has made important 526 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: steps to rein in the abuse of nationwide or so 527 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: called universal injunctions. That was important, and this decision is important, 528 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: and I will say Justice Gorsic, joined by Justice Kavanaugh, 529 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: wrote a concurring opinion that was significant. 530 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 4: Here's what Justice Gorsic said. Quote. 531 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: Lower court decisions may sometimes disagree with this Court's decision, 532 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: but they are never free to defy them. In Department 533 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: of Education versus California, this court granted a stay because 534 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: it found the government likely to prevail in showing that 535 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: the district Court lacked jurisdiction to order the government to 536 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: pay grant obligations. The California decision explained that quote, suits 537 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: based on any express or implied contract with the United 538 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: States do not belong in district court under the Administrative 539 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: Procedure Act, but in the court of Federal claims under 540 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: the Tucker Act. Rather than follow that direction, the District 541 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 2: Court in this case permitted a suit involving materially identical 542 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: grants to proceed to final judgment under the APA. As 543 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: support for its course, the District Court invoked the quote 544 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: persuasive authority of the dissents in California and an earlier 545 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: Court of Appeals decision that California repudiated that was error 546 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: in casting California side. The District Court stressed that the 547 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: court there granted only interim relief pending appeal and a 548 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: rit oficcear, and did not issue a final judgment on 549 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: the Merits true enough, But this Court often addresses requests 550 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: for interim relief, sometimes pending a rit of curcherary, as 551 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: in California. And either way, when this Court issues a decision, 552 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: it constitutes a precedent that commands respect in lower courts. 553 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: He went on to say, quote, if. 554 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 2: The District Court's failure to abide by California were a 555 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: one off, perhaps it would not be worth writing to 556 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: address it. But two months ago, another district court tried 557 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: to quote compel compliance with a different order that this 558 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: Court had stayed. Still, another district court recently diverged from 559 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: one of this Court's decisions, even though the case at 560 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: hand did not differ in any pertinent respect from the 561 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: one this court court had decided. So now this is 562 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: the third time in a matter of weeks, this Court 563 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: has had to intercede in a case squarely controlled by 564 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: one of its precedents. All these interventions should have been unnecessary, 565 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: but together they underscore a basic tenet of our judicial system. 566 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: Whatever their own views, judges are duty bound to respect 567 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: the hierarchy of the federal court system created by the 568 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: Constitution and Congress. Look, this highlights a pattern we're seeing 569 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: of lawless district judges. 570 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 4: That is, Justice Gorsic. 571 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: And Kavanaugh lay out three and just three weeks that 572 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: have defied the Supreme Court of the United States said 573 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: we don't care what the Court said, and you know 574 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: it was striking. Look, I'm reading from a Supreme Court 575 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: opinion and some of that sounds like legal ease. But 576 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: I'll tell you one of the most amazing things that 577 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: Justice Gorsich described the disc Court did is it said 578 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: it found persuasive the descents in the California decision. Well, 579 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: a descent, by definition, means you lost. You did not 580 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: get the majority. The majority issues the opinion. A discent 581 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: is someone who disagrees with the opinion. And the way 582 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 2: precedent works, the way our judicial system works, is is 583 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: a decision that it issues from the Supreme Court is 584 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: a precedent that all of the district courts and all 585 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: of the Courts of Appeals are bound to follow. So 586 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: if you are citing a descent. You are saying right 587 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: on the front of it, I don't care what the 588 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: majority held. I agree with the dissenters. No lower court 589 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: judge has the authority to do that. That is the 590 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: definition of lawlessness, and it is why these plaintiffs are 591 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: seeking out radicals on the bench who they know will 592 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: be lawless. 593 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 594 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: Great point there. Don't forget. We do this show Monday, 595 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday, said the subscriber auto download button wherever 596 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, so you do not miss a 597 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: single episode. Make sure again put this up on social 598 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: media wherever you can, and the center I will see 599 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: you back here on Wednesday morning.