1 00:00:30,279 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,719 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 2: Joined by the new member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 5 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: Mike Rainbow. 6 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,318 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight and. 8 00:00:45,359 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: Please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian Hoyer. 9 00:00:48,278 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 10 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 11 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:56,039 Speaker 1: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. Search 12 00:00:56,079 --> 00:00:58,439 Speaker 1: for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:00,639 --> 00:01:08,518 Speaker 4: I'm doing great, man, doing great. Happy Friday, Friday. 14 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 3: You guys have a good you guys have a good 15 00:01:11,639 --> 00:01:13,279 Speaker 3: New Years. 16 00:01:13,519 --> 00:01:15,359 Speaker 1: Nice. 17 00:01:14,039 --> 00:01:20,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're working man. It was a regular Tuesday, regular Tuesday, man. Yeah, 18 00:01:20,559 --> 00:01:27,239 Speaker 4: no operation there. Yeah, your watch, What are your thoughts 19 00:01:27,279 --> 00:01:31,999 Speaker 4: and what do your feats? Yeah? 20 00:01:32,039 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: I would say this, there's no one on our team 21 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:37,798 Speaker 3: in my opinion, more deserving. The way he's worked from 22 00:01:38,119 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 3: since I've been here, since OTA's until now, and the 23 00:01:42,799 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 3: demand that he brings every week from teams, the double 24 00:01:45,719 --> 00:01:48,159 Speaker 3: teams he gets I mean there's not a play where 25 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:51,239 Speaker 3: he is not accounted for on any unit. And what 26 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:55,879 Speaker 3: he's done week in and week out be consistent, same attitude, consistency, 27 00:01:55,999 --> 00:01:59,079 Speaker 3: even through the losses. He's just come to work every day. 28 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:01,359 Speaker 3: And it's all him, man. I mean, you'd like to 29 00:02:01,399 --> 00:02:05,039 Speaker 3: say take you'd like to take some grat I helped 30 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 3: in that, but in my opinion, it's all him. Like 31 00:02:07,639 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 3: he's really really worked and really really trusted us and 32 00:02:10,239 --> 00:02:13,999 Speaker 3: trusted the Slaters coach Quinn's, coach Mayo and just ran 33 00:02:14,079 --> 00:02:16,879 Speaker 3: with it. And you know, since losing Slater, he's become 34 00:02:16,918 --> 00:02:19,279 Speaker 3: the guy and again to be able to be the 35 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 3: guy and rise up to an occasion and play at 36 00:02:21,119 --> 00:02:23,439 Speaker 3: a different level than he even was in the first 37 00:02:23,478 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 3: two years he was playing. 38 00:02:24,799 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 4: I mean, that's why he's a Pro Bowl. 39 00:02:26,038 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: And then the other teams around the league respect that, 40 00:02:28,239 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: and that's why he's got that award. You know, it's 41 00:02:29,918 --> 00:02:32,159 Speaker 3: not vote, it's a it's a lead vote right there, 42 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 3: and that's the respect he's gone. So I'm very proud 43 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:36,319 Speaker 3: of him. I couldn't be more proud of him, to 44 00:02:36,358 --> 00:02:38,319 Speaker 3: be honest with you, I'm just happy that I'm a 45 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:40,879 Speaker 3: part of it and can watch it in person because 46 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,479 Speaker 3: I know what it looks like now and what a 47 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:44,999 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl looks like. And hopefully he can just continue 48 00:02:45,038 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 3: to build on that and stay consistent. And so I'm 49 00:02:47,439 --> 00:02:48,279 Speaker 3: really excited for him. 50 00:02:48,758 --> 00:02:50,559 Speaker 4: Someone who's known Brendan for so long, how have you 51 00:02:50,599 --> 00:02:51,879 Speaker 4: seen him mature as a person? 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,078 Speaker 3: For with you guys, first, man, I met him in 53 00:02:54,079 --> 00:02:55,599 Speaker 3: college and he was at the universities and I went 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,159 Speaker 3: I was the special coordinator. So he transferred from Oregon to 55 00:02:58,199 --> 00:03:00,599 Speaker 3: be to be with us with his brother, and I 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,439 Speaker 3: was working with him for three months there and it 57 00:03:02,479 --> 00:03:03,999 Speaker 3: was awesome, but he was a kid still, you know. 58 00:03:04,359 --> 00:03:05,999 Speaker 3: And then he went on to Texas and did his 59 00:03:06,079 --> 00:03:08,958 Speaker 3: thing with my mentor coached him for another two years there, 60 00:03:08,999 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 3: and I wanted him in La so bad to be 61 00:03:11,719 --> 00:03:13,879 Speaker 3: a RAM and I did everything I could be a RAM, 62 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,479 Speaker 3: and he ended up coming here to be a Patriot, 63 00:03:15,479 --> 00:03:17,719 Speaker 3: which is the smartest movie he did, you know. And 64 00:03:17,758 --> 00:03:20,439 Speaker 3: now look at what it's done for him, and it's 65 00:03:20,439 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 3: just been it's been a blessing to watch him grow 66 00:03:22,038 --> 00:03:23,999 Speaker 3: up and really performed. I always knew he'd be a 67 00:03:23,999 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 3: great special team player. I just knew it, just because 68 00:03:26,279 --> 00:03:29,279 Speaker 3: his attitude and the way he approaches the game, and uh, 69 00:03:29,359 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 3: he's lived up to every every. 70 00:03:30,959 --> 00:03:31,559 Speaker 4: Hype about it. 71 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 3: And hope, like I said, I hope he continues to 72 00:03:33,279 --> 00:03:35,079 Speaker 3: do so. And I could be more proud just to 73 00:03:35,079 --> 00:03:35,599 Speaker 3: be around. 74 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:38,399 Speaker 4: It for a year. Only one more game left. 75 00:03:38,839 --> 00:03:40,719 Speaker 2: For the younger guys who are making their place on 76 00:03:40,759 --> 00:03:44,439 Speaker 2: the Special Teams unit, how do you get them to understand, hey, 77 00:03:44,519 --> 00:03:47,439 Speaker 2: every snap counts here maybe Week eight team, but every snap, 78 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:48,919 Speaker 2: counsel will get to the officers. 79 00:03:48,919 --> 00:03:49,239 Speaker 4: Done that. 80 00:03:49,279 --> 00:03:50,719 Speaker 3: I think I've done a pretty good job of that 81 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:53,759 Speaker 3: throughout the season. One of our models especially is one play, 82 00:03:54,119 --> 00:03:55,959 Speaker 3: you know, one play perfection. Every time you take the 83 00:03:55,959 --> 00:03:58,159 Speaker 3: film in Special Teams, you've got to be great, all 84 00:03:58,199 --> 00:04:00,279 Speaker 3: living guy to do their job because you only get 85 00:04:00,279 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 3: one play to do it right. We don't get a 86 00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:04,039 Speaker 3: three downs in a first down or a ten play drive. 87 00:04:04,359 --> 00:04:05,919 Speaker 3: You mess up on one play, you got nine plays 88 00:04:05,959 --> 00:04:07,359 Speaker 3: to fix it and things like that. We get one 89 00:04:07,399 --> 00:04:09,479 Speaker 3: play and only and so we're judged a lot by 90 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:11,599 Speaker 3: just one play at a time in this position. So 91 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:13,919 Speaker 3: our guys, I think understand that. And I've treated this 92 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:16,879 Speaker 3: week just like you know the week, same work. In 93 00:04:16,999 --> 00:04:19,398 Speaker 3: fact that you're losing your work harder because you know 94 00:04:19,438 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 3: you're trying to make everything right. So I think every 95 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: week we've we've taken a step up and trying to 96 00:04:23,519 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: get better. Has it led to more wins? 97 00:04:25,438 --> 00:04:26,079 Speaker 4: No, it hasn't. 98 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,959 Speaker 3: But I think our guys understand how important their role 99 00:04:30,039 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: is this weekend to showcase what they can do and 100 00:04:32,759 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 3: to finish what we started there on teams. You know, 101 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: I think we've had times of success on teams. We 102 00:04:36,799 --> 00:04:38,238 Speaker 3: have to have times, but we haven't been good for 103 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,079 Speaker 3: the team, and I just I can build on that 104 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:43,439 Speaker 3: until our guys throughout the seasons like I've done this week, 105 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:45,238 Speaker 3: like when we've been really good, how it helps the 106 00:04:45,239 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: team play top Marry football. 107 00:04:46,359 --> 00:04:47,879 Speaker 4: When we've been bad. This is what it does to 108 00:04:47,919 --> 00:04:48,278 Speaker 4: our team. 109 00:04:48,359 --> 00:04:49,999 Speaker 3: And I think our guys understand that, even the young 110 00:04:49,999 --> 00:04:52,398 Speaker 3: guys who have to take more of a role throughout 111 00:04:52,399 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: the season, and I'm excited to see what they do 112 00:04:54,159 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: on Sunday. I expect them to play all out, give 113 00:04:57,599 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: it everything they got and finish what we start. That's 114 00:04:59,198 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: kind of been my goal this week. Goal point finish 115 00:05:01,438 --> 00:05:03,078 Speaker 3: what we started there and is build on the special 116 00:05:03,078 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: teams culture. Because I control what I control in that 117 00:05:05,399 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: special teams and I only think about that. I think 118 00:05:07,919 --> 00:05:09,518 Speaker 3: about the team, I think about special teams, and that 119 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:11,879 Speaker 3: is it. Like I don't control offics, I don't cut defense. 120 00:05:11,919 --> 00:05:14,118 Speaker 3: I control one thing and special teams doing best to 121 00:05:14,159 --> 00:05:14,678 Speaker 3: do that. 122 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,439 Speaker 1: Bring me personally in that role. Just kind of as 123 00:05:17,479 --> 00:05:18,998 Speaker 1: the year comes to end, where do you feel like 124 00:05:18,999 --> 00:05:19,678 Speaker 1: you've grown. 125 00:05:19,558 --> 00:05:22,318 Speaker 4: Close to this season? So many things? 126 00:05:22,318 --> 00:05:24,518 Speaker 3: Man, as I look back, I go through the next 127 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:26,238 Speaker 3: week and just kind of reave out myself, which I'll 128 00:05:26,239 --> 00:05:28,439 Speaker 3: do deeply. You know, where can I be better? It's 129 00:05:28,438 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: always gonna be like work kind of better, help the 130 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,758 Speaker 3: team out. What can I do better to put a 131 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 3: better product in the field for the fans so that 132 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,998 Speaker 3: they're excited to watch us and they're excited to watch 133 00:05:35,999 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: special teams. And we haven't done that consistently enough on 134 00:05:38,519 --> 00:05:40,519 Speaker 3: special teams, which is why you're three and thirteen, because 135 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 3: if you're good consistently, you probably have two or three 136 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: more wins, right and now we're thinking six and whatever. 137 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,119 Speaker 3: So those little things like that, How can I reflect 138 00:05:48,159 --> 00:05:48,838 Speaker 3: and get better. 139 00:05:48,678 --> 00:05:49,198 Speaker 4: As a coach? 140 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:51,519 Speaker 3: And it's gonna always gonna start with myself first. What 141 00:05:51,558 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: can I do better to help this team? Out and 142 00:05:54,558 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: get the right personnel and people in to believe in 143 00:05:56,759 --> 00:05:58,959 Speaker 3: that and build on the culture that we set in 144 00:05:58,999 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 3: that room right there and get better the next year. 145 00:06:01,599 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: But I'm it's gonna take a while, Like I'm gonna 146 00:06:03,599 --> 00:06:05,678 Speaker 3: sit there and really really think about it, but like 147 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:07,638 Speaker 3: what can I do better as a coach to be 148 00:06:07,678 --> 00:06:08,718 Speaker 3: better for this organization? 149 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:11,759 Speaker 4: And that's how I approach it. 150 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,079 Speaker 3: With those younger guys only being one game on this 151 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,558 Speaker 3: very desires to park At Romo kick the game match 152 00:06:17,879 --> 00:06:21,879 Speaker 3: this No, I think right now, Slide Slide has done 153 00:06:21,879 --> 00:06:23,999 Speaker 3: a good job throughout the year and being consistent for us, 154 00:06:23,999 --> 00:06:25,678 Speaker 3: and like I said, has it always been perfect? 155 00:06:25,719 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 4: No, it hasn't. 156 00:06:26,678 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: But a guy that's really taking ownership with the team 157 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:31,959 Speaker 3: and things right with the team, I think, you know, 158 00:06:32,198 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: we'll finish with him and see what we see we're at. 159 00:06:33,958 --> 00:06:35,759 Speaker 3: I love where Parker's at. Like Parkers came in and 160 00:06:35,799 --> 00:06:37,879 Speaker 3: done a great job for us and great kid. I'm 161 00:06:37,879 --> 00:06:39,438 Speaker 3: glad we have them on our team right now and 162 00:06:39,599 --> 00:06:41,959 Speaker 3: you'll see where that leads to. But I think sly 163 00:06:42,558 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 3: moving forward right now for this last game officially started 164 00:06:44,958 --> 00:06:47,278 Speaker 3: and build some confidence for him moving into the off season. 165 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:50,838 Speaker 1: Heard you mention it one play perfection? 166 00:06:51,159 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, how is that born? Is that sort of like, Yeah, 167 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 4: it's one of our culture things that we do on 168 00:06:58,399 --> 00:06:58,959 Speaker 4: special teams. 169 00:06:58,958 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: It's just one play of perfection that all of them 170 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 3: have to do their job and something that just me 171 00:07:02,919 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: being a player formillion college, me working for the guys 172 00:07:04,919 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: that I've worked with and being around some really good 173 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:09,799 Speaker 3: coaches talk about this play on special teams and it's 174 00:07:09,799 --> 00:07:12,159 Speaker 3: just kind of evolved into that just one play perfection, 175 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:14,439 Speaker 3: just all eleven doing our job for one play and 176 00:07:14,479 --> 00:07:16,759 Speaker 3: when you don't, that's where you give up the touchdowns 177 00:07:16,799 --> 00:07:17,919 Speaker 3: and you give up a block or you. 178 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:20,159 Speaker 4: Get something crucial. When you do all your job. 179 00:07:20,039 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 3: Then you do something big time for your team and 180 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:23,879 Speaker 3: you help your office deef. It's out and that's what 181 00:07:23,919 --> 00:07:25,079 Speaker 3: we're trying to do at the end of the day. 182 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 4: How would you sting? How would you assess marcello styles performances? 183 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:34,838 Speaker 3: Now, I've really really been proud of him from OTAs 184 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 3: he was hurt most OT's he didn't really know what 185 00:07:36,679 --> 00:07:37,999 Speaker 3: we had in the guy. We knew he was a 186 00:07:37,999 --> 00:07:40,719 Speaker 3: good athlete, but he really couldn't showcase anything. 187 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 4: So a little bit down in. 188 00:07:42,159 --> 00:07:44,519 Speaker 3: OTA's but that's why he's OTAs he got healthy. He 189 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:47,039 Speaker 3: stayed here all summer. He didn't go home like most 190 00:07:47,039 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 3: guys do. Freshmen go home, they go on vacation. He 191 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:52,879 Speaker 3: stayed here the entire time. He rehabbed, and people don't 192 00:07:52,919 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 3: know that he rehabbed, took care of his body, got 193 00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:57,759 Speaker 3: right and has been a four core guy for US 194 00:07:57,919 --> 00:08:00,239 Speaker 3: for seventeen weeks straight and hasn't came off the field. 195 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:01,039 Speaker 4: But he gave him off one. 196 00:08:00,919 --> 00:08:04,159 Speaker 3: Play and we got hurt a head injury against Tennessee. 197 00:08:04,159 --> 00:08:06,399 Speaker 3: I think it was whatever game was. And now he's 198 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 3: been consistent and he's gotten better week to week to week. 199 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:10,839 Speaker 3: So again one of those guys talking about culture like 200 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:13,519 Speaker 3: building around him going the next year and hopefully he 201 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,079 Speaker 3: can take another step throughout make his get his body 202 00:08:16,159 --> 00:08:17,959 Speaker 3: right throughout the off season and now as a rook 203 00:08:18,119 --> 00:08:20,519 Speaker 3: now not as rookie. He's not going through the combine, 204 00:08:20,559 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 3: he's not going to the OTA's for the first time, 205 00:08:22,719 --> 00:08:24,479 Speaker 3: all this stuff for the first time. It's hard on rookies. Man, 206 00:08:24,479 --> 00:08:27,079 Speaker 3: they hit that rookie wall sometimes and he really hasn't. 207 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:30,399 Speaker 3: He's just been steady at it. He listens, you know, 208 00:08:30,599 --> 00:08:32,759 Speaker 3: he doesn't talk much. He just listens. And I think 209 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 3: being around coach Quinn, who coaches are outside guys, and 210 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:39,118 Speaker 3: being around uh, being around schooler has helped him a 211 00:08:39,119 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 3: lot right there. And I'm proud of the guy and hope, 212 00:08:41,839 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 3: hope he finishes off right this weekend and builds into 213 00:08:45,439 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: next year. 214 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: It's tough for you. 215 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:50,279 Speaker 2: As a positive guy, if that's very clear. Is it 216 00:08:50,359 --> 00:08:53,078 Speaker 2: tough for you last Saturday to be on the field 217 00:08:53,119 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 2: and to hear the fans in the stands booing and 218 00:08:56,599 --> 00:08:57,118 Speaker 2: chanting the. 219 00:08:57,039 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 4: Things they checked. 220 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:01,039 Speaker 3: I mean, I always say this, like you don't don't 221 00:09:01,039 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 3: want to get shot out, don't join the army, like 222 00:09:03,119 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: I know this profession, like I know what it brings. 223 00:09:05,439 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 3: And you guys have had so much success here. I 224 00:09:08,359 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: mean I grew up a Dallas Cowich fans, right, so 225 00:09:10,039 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: like as a kid when we were going to the 226 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,759 Speaker 3: playoffs and when I was. 227 00:09:12,719 --> 00:09:14,519 Speaker 4: A little kid, we're going to Super Bowls. I was 228 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:15,879 Speaker 4: pissed at the team too when we're. 229 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,479 Speaker 3: Losing, right, So like I'm all about I'm all about 230 00:09:18,479 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: the team and the fans too. Like there's people in 231 00:09:20,999 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: those stands and I know because I was a kid 232 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,239 Speaker 3: once and my parents can't afford to go to football games, 233 00:09:25,239 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 3: like they're expensive tickets and to bring your whole family 234 00:09:27,439 --> 00:09:27,799 Speaker 3: to the game. 235 00:09:28,079 --> 00:09:30,519 Speaker 4: Oh that's a thousand dollars. Probably you're spending more day 236 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:32,359 Speaker 4: and then to lose like we did. 237 00:09:33,239 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 3: I mean, they're upset and now they're frustrated, and they 238 00:09:35,239 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 3: should be right. We need to put a better problem 239 00:09:36,879 --> 00:09:39,279 Speaker 3: in the field, and that's that's what our job is. 240 00:09:39,319 --> 00:09:42,078 Speaker 3: So anytime I hear that, I'm like, Okay, what can 241 00:09:42,119 --> 00:09:44,479 Speaker 3: I do better? What can I do better so that 242 00:09:44,519 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 3: they're not doing that next time? Like, what can I 243 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 3: do better to be a better coordinator, to be a 244 00:09:48,839 --> 00:09:51,639 Speaker 3: better coach, to make our players play harder and play better, 245 00:09:51,959 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 3: so that we don't hear that, because I mean, they 246 00:09:54,239 --> 00:09:55,958 Speaker 3: have every right to do that. In my opinion, it's 247 00:09:56,359 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 3: it's a sport man, it's an organization. It's it's professional sports. 248 00:09:59,119 --> 00:10:01,279 Speaker 3: This isn't If you don't want to do that, go 249 00:10:01,439 --> 00:10:03,919 Speaker 3: coach that, you know, go coach in Alaska for six 250 00:10:03,959 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 3: man football, right, I'm serious, Like, then you won't hear 251 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,279 Speaker 3: that because that's all your family's in the stance. 252 00:10:08,639 --> 00:10:10,359 Speaker 4: But this is different. This is professional football. 253 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:12,479 Speaker 3: So this is the way it goes into the society, 254 00:10:12,519 --> 00:10:13,799 Speaker 3: and I'm totally fine with that. 255 00:10:15,319 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 2: One of the cool parts about these Friday sessions over 256 00:10:17,799 --> 00:10:21,159 Speaker 2: that it's like you learn about the game the game 257 00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:25,519 Speaker 2: so along those lines seeing on hunt protection, like, I'm. 258 00:10:25,359 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 4: Just like wider, Oh yeah, you know some of that. 259 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:33,519 Speaker 2: What is that. 260 00:10:34,639 --> 00:10:38,239 Speaker 3: I coach college for eleven years, so and I worked 261 00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:40,639 Speaker 3: with a I worked under a guy jod Caamillis with 262 00:10:40,839 --> 00:10:42,479 Speaker 3: La Rams who did a lot of stuff like that. 263 00:10:42,599 --> 00:10:45,519 Speaker 3: And I've always been into showing different looks, not just 264 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 3: being stagnant in what you do, just being creative with. 265 00:10:48,359 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 4: What you can do with the rules. 266 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:52,159 Speaker 3: And I like showing different things sometimes, and I think 267 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 3: it helps your protection. I think it helps you in coverage. 268 00:10:54,199 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 3: I think it helps you versus the looks you're going 269 00:10:55,639 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: to see and if you feel different about some of 270 00:10:57,719 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 3: the personnel guys you have and then you run different things. 271 00:10:59,959 --> 00:11:02,078 Speaker 3: I just think it's a creative way to do things. 272 00:11:03,199 --> 00:11:03,919 Speaker 4: I'll always do that. 273 00:11:03,959 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 3: I always be looking for things like that, and I 274 00:11:06,279 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 3: just think it's it's fun. It's fun to be a 275 00:11:08,439 --> 00:11:10,479 Speaker 3: little more outside the box thinking I'll just be stagnant 276 00:11:10,479 --> 00:11:12,759 Speaker 3: on what you do. So sometimes it's not a good 277 00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:14,359 Speaker 3: thing because then you do too much and you're not 278 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:16,759 Speaker 3: good at anything right, and so that's where you can 279 00:11:16,799 --> 00:11:18,759 Speaker 3: always fall into. So I try to do my best 280 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:20,919 Speaker 3: at not doing too much. Having coach Quinn, I said, 281 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:23,119 Speaker 3: I coach one a lot, but as my assistant, he'll 282 00:11:23,119 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 3: tell me sometimes they've already doing too much. 283 00:11:24,839 --> 00:11:27,039 Speaker 4: It's chill right here. And so I listened to him 284 00:11:27,039 --> 00:11:27,958 Speaker 4: a lot on some of that stuff. 285 00:11:27,999 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 3: But if we can throw a rink on the in 286 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:31,919 Speaker 3: the game and have the next team prepared for that, 287 00:11:32,239 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: it takes time out of their day to prepare for 288 00:11:34,439 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: that because they got to prepare for it or else. 289 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 3: You know, if you show it again, they're not prepared, 290 00:11:38,119 --> 00:11:39,639 Speaker 3: and that's a bad look on that coach. 291 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 4: Get any questions. 292 00:11:47,119 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 3: It is great, man, you guys, it's been great with me. 293 00:11:48,919 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 3: I mean, thank thanks for being great with me. And 294 00:11:51,119 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 3: like I said, hopefully see you guys in the off season. 295 00:11:53,759 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 3: And I appreciate you guys. Without the year, all right, 296 00:11:57,199 --> 00:11:57,879 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys. 297 00:11:57,879 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: Have a go on Gus Patriots Playbook. Join John Brook 298 00:12:02,239 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: as he brings you all the latest Patriots Talk an 299 00:12:04,319 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 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