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Speaker 1: Uh ocho the chiefs huh hold on, I thought you
Speaker 1: was gonna be at the game, which one the Hawks tonight?
Speaker 2: Oh not?
Speaker 3: The baby birthday was a day.
Speaker 1: See, so when did you find When did you find
Speaker 1: out the baby's birthday was today?
Speaker 2: Whatever? Before? After you asked Joe to get them tickets.
Speaker 3: Now we had to celebrate the day because I got
Speaker 3: a flight in the morning. I gotta work, I gotta
Speaker 3: I gotta work.
Speaker 2: Hey, Chad, y'all get on me. Man up.
Speaker 1: Don't want to do anything with o Joe. This is
Speaker 1: why you spend five ten thousand dollars. Forel a pair
Speaker 1: of tickets.
Speaker 3: Bay, whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa. We talk, we talk,
Speaker 3: We talk about Atlanta Hawks. Ain't nothing five ten thousand
Speaker 3: dollars over there for course side, how about you think
Speaker 3: them tickets calls of course for Joe Johnson free.
Speaker 2: No, they're not free for Joe. I'm sorry. He might
Speaker 2: get them.
Speaker 1: He might get them at a better price than what
Speaker 1: the average fan would get them.
Speaker 2: They're not free for Joe.
Speaker 3: Hey, but hey, listen to me. But my daughter's birthday
Speaker 3: is tomorrow, right, so I had to celebrate. I had
Speaker 3: to celebrate the day. Chat yaw, she's turning she's turning eleven.
Speaker 3: And I have a flight to New York in the
Speaker 3: morning because I have to do the late run the
Speaker 3: Soccer podcast tomorrow. I got the the MLS commissioner. Yep,
Speaker 3: I got the MLS commission tomorrow, which is pretty pretty
Speaker 3: dope into the rebull players Tuesday, Tuesday and Tuesday, Wednesday
Speaker 3: and Thursday.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, When did you realize
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to celebrate shot child's birthday a day earlier?
Speaker 3: Well, Mama, that was mama's idea. Say hey, listen, we're
Speaker 3: gonna have to push this up because she had the
Speaker 3: tournament to get ready for this weekend coming up, so
Speaker 3: she had to have a fun today and tomorrow. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna miss tomorrow, so I had to do it today.
Speaker 2: See y'all talk about chat, but y'all here talking.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Uh, there you go, right there. The Chiefs find that
Speaker 1: newest backup quarterback to Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: They agreed to send a twenty twenty seven sixth round
Speaker 1: draft pick to the Jets to acquire Justin Fields. Fields
Speaker 1: wanted to continue his career in Kansas City, although there
Speaker 1: were other teams interested in acquiring him. Per Adam Schefter,
Speaker 1: to facilitate the trade, the Jets are paying seven million
Speaker 1: of the ten million dollars guaranteed contract of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Kansas City will play the remaining three million. Mahons is
Speaker 1: rehabbing after having surgery in December to repair repair a
Speaker 1: torrent ACL and an LCL in his left knee.
Speaker 2: O Joe, we were.
Speaker 1: Talking about this because the reports had come out that
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were possibly interested in Russell Wilson. Yes, now
Speaker 1: that we know they're going away from Russell Wilson and
Speaker 1: turn into Justin Fields, you like this?
Speaker 2: Are you surprised by this? What are your thoughts about this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of like it because I'll go
Speaker 3: back to what did Justin Fields look like when he's
Speaker 3: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, what it looked like when he
Speaker 3: had an actual starting job. I don't want to base
Speaker 3: anything a small sym besize what we saw Justin Fields
Speaker 3: with New York Jets, because nobody does well over there.
Speaker 3: Nobody does well over there because if from from top
Speaker 3: to bottom, it's not run the right way. But what
Speaker 3: is the Steelers? A competent organization that is used to winning. Obviously,
Speaker 3: he looked somewhat good until Russell Wilson got healthy, and
Speaker 3: then he had to come here. He had to sit down.
Speaker 3: If not mistaken, Justin Field went feurign two in the
Speaker 3: sixth game that he did start. So I think with
Speaker 3: Andy Reid and be Ene me and some of the
Speaker 3: some of the weapons they do have over there, if
Speaker 3: Justin Fields has to be the quarterback until Paxic Mahomes
Speaker 3: is healthy, I'm okay with that because I understand what
Speaker 3: he will look like when he has the right supporting
Speaker 3: cast Arriotty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like this. Andy loves mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Remember what he did. Donovan was mobile, but then he
Speaker 1: got Michael Vick, who was even more mobile than Donovan mcnow.
Speaker 2: And he has success with that, so I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Patrick Justin Fields is a lot more mobile than
Speaker 1: Patrick mahoons, and he's going to be a lot more
Speaker 1: mobile than Patrick Mahomes coming off this knee injury. But
Speaker 1: I agree with what you had to say is that
Speaker 1: given this system, Andy's quarterback whisper for the quarterbacks, it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to see that if Justin Fields has
Speaker 1: to play two three games that he won't have a
Speaker 1: level of success.
Speaker 2: Understanding that.
Speaker 1: You know, hey, they do a great job of making
Speaker 1: sure you get the ball out of your hands quick.
Speaker 1: They were on a lot of jail break screens. They
Speaker 1: believe they can run the ball a lot better to
Speaker 1: take some pressure off of the passing game. That's why
Speaker 1: they went out and signed Kenneth Walker K nine in
Speaker 1: free agency to relieve some of the passing game pressure.
Speaker 2: Because the asthma holes to drop back.
Speaker 1: And continually to throw throw, throw, you're putting him, You're
Speaker 1: putting yourself in harm's way.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're done yet, O Joy.
Speaker 1: They got a top fifteen pick and they got the
Speaker 1: twenty ninth pick from the Rams, they got two first
Speaker 1: round picks. Don't know quite know the direction that they're
Speaker 1: gonna head in in those Do they trade both of
Speaker 1: those picks and move into the top ten top five?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that, but I kind of like this.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, If he can't have success here,
Speaker 1: where can he have success at OJO?
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, listen, if going to Kansas City, if you
Speaker 3: look at the starting quarterbacks and obviously the backups that
Speaker 3: have been there that have had to go in and
Speaker 3: filing for the starters, they've always had success on They've
Speaker 3: always had success. And Andy Reid want to come not
Speaker 3: calling him the quarterback whisper, but all quarterbacks he's worked
Speaker 3: with in coach, they've all they've all had success. So
Speaker 3: I expect him because of what he has around him
Speaker 3: to have success. And what I like about him is
Speaker 3: he can throw the ball, but he also adds the
Speaker 3: dynamic of being a dual threat as well. So I'm
Speaker 3: sure they're gonna play to his strengths to make sure
Speaker 3: he can keep that ship or float while he's in.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what you're gonna have to do. Obviously, Defensively,
Speaker 1: we'll see what they're gonna do. Defensively, they lost a
Speaker 1: lot of guys, both at the starting corners, starting safety,
Speaker 1: So that's three started out the defense. They restructure Snail contract,
Speaker 1: they'll probably do something with Jones's contract.
Speaker 2: Defensively, they're not the same.
Speaker 1: They don't get out there, they don't attack the quarterback
Speaker 1: the same way they once did.
Speaker 2: They're not that Spag still wants the pressure.
Speaker 1: When he feels threatened, you get close to his end zone,
Speaker 1: he's gonna bring pressure, and teams were prepared for that
Speaker 1: and they made them pay for some of that this year.
Speaker 2: But I like this justin fields.
Speaker 1: Hopefully he can figure it out, because look, we throw
Speaker 1: everything again, we throw everything out the window that he
Speaker 1: did with the Jets, because, like you said, the Jets
Speaker 1: are not a very well organization and they don't have
Speaker 1: the best pieces around him. Okay, uh, we're gonna throw
Speaker 1: out Chicago. At some point time. We got to stop
Speaker 1: throwing out stuff. At some point in time, Hey, the
Speaker 1: baby just dirty. Hey we can't just keep throwing our
Speaker 1: bath war if not the baby dirty. And in this situation,
Speaker 1: at some point time, O Joe, we're gonna have to say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to put some of this on Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think the Jets. Uh, I don't think
Speaker 1: the Jets did him any favors. I think Chicago. There
Speaker 1: are some things that he could have done better, like
Speaker 1: understand protection and be able to redirect the protection so
Speaker 1: you don't become vulnerable if they don't do it. You
Speaker 1: should be well enough thoughtful enough as a quarterback to say.
Speaker 2: Hell, nah, y'all, lisen this, no rip this, Hey, I.
Speaker 1: Want to be able to see or or if it's
Speaker 1: a rip protection lizen so I can see the blizz
Speaker 1: come in because I'm right hand the quarterback. But at
Speaker 1: some point time, O choe, we gotta start holding these
Speaker 1: players accountable. We can't keep blaming organization, organization, organization. There
Speaker 1: are some bad run organizations. I will conceive that, But
Speaker 1: you can't go to fifteen organizations says every last one
Speaker 1: of them are run poorly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: At some point in time, you're not doing you're not
Speaker 1: doing your job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I could only base it off
Speaker 3: what he did as the last organization was at where
Speaker 3: I thought he was going to. Obviously, I don't have
Speaker 3: to look over my shoulder. Finally, I get a team
Speaker 3: where don't have to worry about anyone taking my job.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately that job was the New York Jets, and
Speaker 3: I'm not sure when the last time they've actually had
Speaker 3: success because top to bottom, you know how it is.
Speaker 3: I don't need to say anything. I mean no disrespect,
Speaker 3: you know, to anyone that plays for New York Jets.
Speaker 3: But it is what it is. It is what it is.
Speaker 3: So justin Fields, seeing what he looked like when he's
Speaker 3: with the Steelers, with a competent organization that has run
Speaker 3: the correct way from top to bottom, I saw what
Speaker 3: he looked like, the small semmitide we saw with him there.
Speaker 3: I know exactly what he's gonna give you when he's
Speaker 3: way the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't take much because Andy's system is very
Speaker 1: quarterback freely. You look at the success that Alex Smith
Speaker 1: had in that system. You look at Donald mcnabbing that system.
Speaker 1: You look at Michael Vick in that system. You look
Speaker 1: at my homeboy in that Mahome brother an outlier, so
Speaker 1: he gonna look good in any system. That's Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 1: He's a you could make a case that he's a
Speaker 1: top five, top six quarterback as we currently sit here
Speaker 1: and speak O Joe. So he's an outlier. But if
Speaker 1: you look at other quarterbacks, Alex Smith was mobile people.
Speaker 1: I mean I know, you know, you look at it.
Speaker 1: He was mobile, Ojoe. You're watching in San Francisco, and
Speaker 1: how he can move. They would move the pocket. With
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. You look at him in Kansas City, they
Speaker 1: would move the pocket. He was very, very mobile. And
Speaker 1: so I think, hopefully Justin Field's can have this level
Speaker 1: of success.
Speaker 2: And you see what he did.
Speaker 1: Andy came there and you got myhomes and then Alex
Speaker 1: Smith was able to go to the commanders and you
Speaker 1: know he ended up messing up his leg. But hopefully
Speaker 1: Justin Fields can have this level of success. I thought
Speaker 1: he could be good. Watching him at Ohio State, sometimes
Speaker 1: you get a false sense because when you got five
Speaker 1: six first round WI receivers, oo, you get a little
Speaker 1: false system like with damn, is he that good?
Speaker 2: But you know, we look at what he was throwing to.
Speaker 1: He got a lobby and he got Garrett Wilson, and
Speaker 1: you know he got all those guys like, well, damn,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna he's going to have to play better
Speaker 1: because I agree, I think, oh your people are more
Speaker 1: in your camp. The Jets are bad situation. Chicago didn't
Speaker 1: surround him with anything. Pittsburgh, he seemed to be heading
Speaker 1: in the right direction, Yes, but they never committed. They
Speaker 1: committed to Russell Wilson. Russell got hurt in training camp,
Speaker 1: and you know, Mike Tomlin never committed, like, well, if
Speaker 1: Russell gets healthy, Uh, this is still.
Speaker 3: Justin field job.
Speaker 1: He didn't make. He didn't make that declaration. So I
Speaker 1: was surprised. I think a lot of people were surprised
Speaker 1: that that when Russ got healthy, that he went to
Speaker 1: justin fields, considering how well feels was playing.
Speaker 2: But this is an insurance policy.
Speaker 1: It only cost him three million dollars the Jets picking
Speaker 1: up you know, seven million dollars of that, uh, the
Speaker 1: ten million that he's guaranteed, and so hopefully it works
Speaker 1: out for him this time around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, listen, that's a good team to be around too.
Speaker 3: That's a good team to be around obviously, that atmosphere,
Speaker 3: that winning atmosphere, and being able to learn behind the
Speaker 3: homes once he does get back, just in case the
Speaker 3: opportunity presents itself again, but justin fields be the quarterback
Speaker 3: of a team somewhere else, just just being able to
Speaker 3: take some of the attributes that he's learned from my
Speaker 3: homes and that system will will be tremendous for him.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, O, Joe.
Speaker 1: You know this now, if you don't do well in
Speaker 1: and his system, they gonna say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets tough there, it gets tough after that,
Speaker 3: Get it gets real tough, It get real slim after that.
Speaker 1: Man, Poe, Joe, give me put this up. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna put this up. I feel bad too, feel bad
Speaker 1: for who Joe?
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 2: He up there at the game by himself. He wasn't
Speaker 2: by himself.
Speaker 3: It was hold on head. I'm gonna let you. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna let you. I'm gonna let you argue with the
Speaker 3: mother my child. No no, no, no, no, no no
Speaker 3: no no.
Speaker 2: There you go somebody.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you argue with arguing the chat.
Speaker 2: Oh you see, Oh Joe, this this don't need to
Speaker 2: be no discussion.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe know his he knows with all his kid's birthday,
Speaker 1: he knows if he's out of town, he's gonna contact
Speaker 1: the mom and say we need to move this up
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be out of town.
Speaker 3: Tell her how you gonna tell her what to do?
Speaker 2: What she told you what to do?
Speaker 3: If she said I need you here today, I'm here today.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well so what but oh Joe, you hadn't made plans.
Speaker 3: Hey, I don't give a about no plans. If my
Speaker 3: motherfucking child birthday is here.
Speaker 2: Well you should have what you should have did that
Speaker 2: with Joe.
Speaker 3: I talked to Joe already. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: I talked to Joe earlier today. Now, y'all, don't piss
Speaker 3: me up. But my goddamn child, it's her birthday.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Oh Joe, how you getting ticked off because
Speaker 1: you putting this You putting this request there for a man.
Speaker 3: Listen, man I send that man? Is money for a ticket?
Speaker 3: Y'all acting like it's that goddamn serious. I said, it's
Speaker 3: my child birthday. Anybody don't like it? You know what
Speaker 3: the ef you could do? Now that's the last timna
Speaker 3: say about it.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I play around a lot. My
Speaker 3: child birthday is tomorrow. I have to get on the
Speaker 3: flight at nine am. Therefore, Mama asked me to stay
Speaker 3: in town today to to do some with her because
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be going the rest of the week till Sunday.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, that's wrong.
Speaker 3: I talked wait and no, let me finish. I talked
Speaker 3: to Joe earlier today. I say, Joe, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: be able to make it because I have obligations with
Speaker 3: the little one. They moved what she had to do
Speaker 3: up because she has to prepare for a tennis tournament
Speaker 3: this weekend.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 3: We make it a little bit more complicated than we should.
Speaker 2: Nobody is.
Speaker 3: It's a serious matter. You're telling me about a basketball
Speaker 3: game versus my child's daughter, my daughter's birth show.
Speaker 2: You the one that recommended you go to the game.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 3: Go to the game.
Speaker 2: Okay, what are you saying?
Speaker 1: You are the right thing by staying for your child's birthday?
Speaker 3: So why do we even?
Speaker 1: No one is saying, oh Joe, oh Joe, Now, how
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to a game?
Speaker 3: Can when you when you when you have something to
Speaker 3: do important? Do I say anything?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. So why y'all making it a
Speaker 3: big thing? Oh joey, Hey, something we talk about a
Speaker 3: we talk about a basketball game.
Speaker 2: O Jo.
Speaker 1: But here, this is why in chat now you're understand,
Speaker 1: this is why I don't commit, because things come up
Speaker 1: and to make that commit. That's why when people say, Shannon,
Speaker 1: can you do this, Shannon, can you go there? I
Speaker 1: can't commit because I got so many things going on
Speaker 1: that I don't know. So even though Shelley has my
Speaker 1: schedule six weeks two months in advance, something might come
Speaker 1: up just like that and I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't aford it.
Speaker 2: Somebody have to do that, not back out of it.
Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with anything at all right now,
Speaker 3: that has nothing to do anything. Hey, I need you
Speaker 3: here for your child's birthday. We got to move it up.
Speaker 3: Her birthday's tomorrow, so we had to move there because
Speaker 3: I got why you couldn't move it back? Moving back
Speaker 3: where the birthday?
Speaker 2: What is the birthday?
Speaker 3: How about her birthday is tomorrow? Okay, so I'm not
Speaker 3: here tomorrow. My flights, my flights at nine in the morning. Hello,
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Okay, how about is here.
Speaker 2: Birthday?
Speaker 3: Hey? Hold on, hey, matter of fact, matter of fact,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you your number so you can explain
Speaker 3: to her.
Speaker 2: Why you gotta do all.
Speaker 3: This because because because we're making it more than what
Speaker 3: it really is. We tell about the basketball game acting
Speaker 3: like I'm I'm supposed to be a goddamn white house
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, come.
Speaker 1: Oh happy birthday.
Speaker 3: Bad.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I was just saying, Oh, Jo comebo bad. But I understand,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I understand I talking about.
Speaker 3: I don't play when it comes to my kids. I
Speaker 3: don't care what I got to do. I don't I
Speaker 3: don't care. And anybody don't like it. You know what
Speaker 3: time it is. I mean, no disrespect, no, no disrespect
Speaker 3: to the chat and and and you. I'm just saying
Speaker 3: some people trying to make jokes and he he ha
Speaker 3: ha he he ha ha.
Speaker 2: Hell Chad, what y'all think of chat? Y'all left? He
Speaker 2: left Jones dump.
Speaker 3: Hey, you still going?
Speaker 2: That's a matter fact? Has a better fact?
Speaker 1: Give me, give me, give me, give me your child,
Speaker 1: give me a co parenting number.
Speaker 2: I would have talked to her.
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on calling me.
Speaker 2: Now, we don't need to talk. We re to go.
Speaker 2: We fit to move on.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins says he fell underutilized this season, especially in
Speaker 1: the red zone. First, a Ravens fan, tweeted his one
Speaker 1: hand to catch in Week one versus the Bill, saying,
Speaker 1: if the Ravens are in the market for a veteran
Speaker 1: wide receiver, which I suspect they are, they should do
Speaker 1: a deal to bring DeAndre Hopkins back to Baltimore. What
Speaker 1: a catch this was. In response, d Hopkins says, how
Speaker 1: many times after this do you think I was used
Speaker 1: in the red zone when targeted? I'm still one of
Speaker 1: the best, still one of the most productive, but never
Speaker 1: complained with my snaps and never will facts. D Hawk,
Speaker 1: Who's thirty three, finished the season with twenty two catches,
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty yards and only two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, I hate that. I hate when they do
Speaker 3: this to us.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead, talk to me.
Speaker 3: I hate when they do this to us. A chat.
Speaker 3: I hate when you when you reach your thirties. As
Speaker 3: great as DeAndre Hopkins was, as as much as what
Speaker 3: I know he can, he can do and provide for offense,
Speaker 3: especially one like the Baltimore Ravens, and to be underutilized
Speaker 3: understanding how good he is in one on one situations
Speaker 3: and goal line situations. Uh fifty to fifty balls, turning
Speaker 3: it turn into ninety ten. When it comes to him,
Speaker 3: when it comes to making contested catches, all you got
Speaker 3: to do is just throw it in the vicinity. He
Speaker 3: has hands like Larry fer and Gerald. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: what his drop rates, what drop his drop percentage is,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure it's up there with some of the
Speaker 3: best in the NFL, like Chris Carter and Larryfern Gerald.
Speaker 3: Once you hit your thirties on they continue to weed
Speaker 3: you out. Obviously on the team they don't use as much,
Speaker 3: obviously because they they more so use the young bulls
Speaker 3: and the young bucks that they do have. But he's
Speaker 3: such an extreme talent, even at thirty three. I understand
Speaker 3: the production that he can have, but it's just I
Speaker 3: hate that they weed you out. I mean, it happened
Speaker 3: to it happened to all of us. I'm Julio Jones.
Speaker 3: You know, I can go down the list of all
Speaker 3: the great receivers that were great at one time, and
Speaker 3: they go to teams and they're unutilized just because of age.
Speaker 3: And that's the way they weed you out in general.
Speaker 3: And at some point it's gonna come to a point
Speaker 3: where the game is so young, where there's no more
Speaker 3: opportunities left for you.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you know this. Once you start going every year,
Speaker 1: it's year to year. You're only gonna be there one year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the likelihood of them bringing you back. You saw what happened.
Speaker 1: He went to Kansas City, and he went over here,
Speaker 1: and he went over there. He might as well get
Speaker 1: accustomed to if he wants to stay for an extended
Speaker 1: period of time. Yeah, just says, Look, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm a high gun. I'm here one. It's a temp service. Now,
Speaker 1: anybody that's in the chat nobody temp service. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: there temporarily. He's gonna be on these teams temporarily. They're
Speaker 1: not looking for DeAndre Hopkins to be a long term solution.
Speaker 2: He might believe he can.
Speaker 1: And I don't have any reason to believe that he can't,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying they're not going to give you those
Speaker 1: opportunities because they don't intend for you to be there
Speaker 1: after the time in which you are there, which is
Speaker 1: basically the football season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 2: It is what thato, That's what it is.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I hate the way that business
Speaker 3: works like that, especially when you have a player that
Speaker 3: is really good at what they're do, I mean, really
Speaker 3: good at what they do and really good at what
Speaker 3: they've done, but again, the opportunity, the opportunities decrease. I
Speaker 3: hate that. I hate that. If you give him the
Speaker 3: opportunities like he had when he was at Houston and
Speaker 3: put him in a position to make those plays, he
Speaker 3: can still make those plays. But obviously it's the way
Speaker 3: and the business does most of them.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they will ever be the Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: they don't do that, But they don't do that to Dante.
Speaker 1: They don't put him in position like he was in
Speaker 1: Green Bay because this Pooka's team.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Oh, they're not.
Speaker 1: Gonna put him in that because even though we even
Speaker 1: though Zay Flyers as five eight, five nine, whatever the case.
Speaker 2: He's their number one receiver.
Speaker 1: He's getting those opportunities and the two tight ends they're
Speaker 1: gonna get second and third priority and then probably with
Speaker 1: Shawan babe, but he's gonna get fourth Friday. So a
Speaker 1: best case on the absolute best case scenario, yeah, de
Speaker 1: hop is the field option. Yeah, but see you always
Speaker 1: know the fieldth option on't show you already.
Speaker 3: Know a very seldom, very seldom. But why even bring
Speaker 3: him in on Why even why even bring him in?
Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they know they're not going to use him
Speaker 2: in the capacity that.
Speaker 1: In order to maximize him, you're gonna have to use
Speaker 1: him in the capacity. And I don't, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't think you Look, he's saying, use him in
Speaker 1: the red zone. And I think he still can be
Speaker 1: a valuable, a viable option in the red zone, but
Speaker 1: they're more apt to run the ball and when they
Speaker 1: do throw it in.
Speaker 2: I mean he had him a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar missed him a few times, but for
Speaker 1: the most part, they're not putting him in situations where
Speaker 1: he can succeed, which is the red zone. He's oh Joe,
Speaker 1: He's never been a guy that had blinding speed, so
Speaker 1: he's he's even less fast than he was when he
Speaker 1: came into the league. But he still has great hands.
Speaker 1: He still has a huge catch radius. So that's why
Speaker 1: he's said, give me in the red zone, give me
Speaker 1: some opportunities. Let me high point the ball showed of me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the things I can still.
Speaker 3: Do, yeah, I say. And this this is a difference
Speaker 3: between the Ravens offense and how you mentioned Devonte Adams, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he led the NFL in touchdowns. I be not mistaken. Yeah, well, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: they throw the ball so much over there, and Devonte
Speaker 3: Adams is still so good, obviously still the best, He's
Speaker 3: actually still the best route running the league. Obviously thrown
Speaker 3: Ross Saint Brown in there as well, who's mainly in
Speaker 3: the slot. But when it comes to outside receivers and
Speaker 3: it comes to running rounds, Devonte is still that guy,
Speaker 3: which is why his numbers looked at Whey they did,
Speaker 3: and they throw the ball so got there much over
Speaker 3: there in LA. So I think that that that also
Speaker 3: it kind of hurts being the fifth option down there
Speaker 3: in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: It does. But plus you look at at Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1: How many back shoulders has he thrown the Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 1: So now he gets a guy that's not as big
Speaker 1: as Calvin Johnson but can throw the back shoulder.
Speaker 2: It just automatic.
Speaker 1: Davante is one of the back shoulders best back shoulder.
Speaker 3: Catching all of football, especially Rogers him and Aaron.
Speaker 1: You can't stop it. If you behind him, he gonna
Speaker 1: throw it over the top. If you're on top of me,
Speaker 1: he gonna throw it behind you. So I'm like, you're like, okay, well, damn, coach,
Speaker 1: what you want me to do? And like you said,
Speaker 1: he's still an elite route runner.
Speaker 3: Yes, done, And.
Speaker 2: But it's a but they they are two different receivers.
Speaker 1: People don't look at People still believe that the divantee.
Speaker 1: That's why he's making max dollars. He's making twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year, twenty million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: because they still believe he's a viable option that at
Speaker 1: worst case scenario, he can be a two, possibly a
Speaker 1: one if Pookah goes out. Remember at Jacksonville, ohow he
Speaker 1: had three touchdowns? How many games we see him at three?
Speaker 1: Two touchdowns?
Speaker 3: He?
Speaker 1: I mean he got fourteen touchdowns. Then he missed a
Speaker 1: couple of games. He's still the guy. He's still he's
Speaker 1: a Some guys are just touchdown magnets, t O and Randy,
Speaker 1: Chris Carter, Jerry, those guys. I get another guy, uh
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates. Man, I can never go like Gates.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm like, damn, I said, man, I'll
Speaker 1: be watching Gates. I'm like, well, Damn, I had retired
Speaker 1: when he became what he became. And I'm looking at him, like, damn.
Speaker 1: They getting the ball down in the REP. They get
Speaker 1: down to the ten, they throwt it to it and
Speaker 1: they're like, well, go get op option away. They run
Speaker 1: Zorro route, they run options, they run stick, they run choice.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, damn, but some guys can just score,
Speaker 1: have that ability to just score the damn football. They
Speaker 1: have that ability. O Joe, you and I were yardage guys.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get yardish. We might have six for a
Speaker 1: buck twenty and no touchdown. Somebody else gona come along
Speaker 1: and have three for seventy five and two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: But but that's the way it is.
Speaker 1: I know he's he's frustrated, But once you start bouncing around,
Speaker 1: O Joe's in Kansas City, and you remember he was
Speaker 1: at the he was in Tennessee and now he's in Baltimore,
Speaker 1: and that it's just if I'm him and I want
Speaker 1: to and I want to, you know, stay.
Speaker 2: In the league.
Speaker 3: Would you hang it?
Speaker 2: Would you hang it up? Not complaining, well, he.
Speaker 3: Never complained before. He don't even hell d hop, don't
Speaker 3: even talk.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He reminded me unless you know him personally and you
Speaker 3: actually have a conversation with him. He remind me of
Speaker 3: Troy Polamalu or remind me of Chris Henry. You know, God,
Speaker 3: God got rest in peace individuals that play the game,
Speaker 3: and you never ever hit him talk. I think the
Speaker 3: last time I heard d Hop talk is seeing him
Speaker 3: in person. And then obviously when him and God damn
Speaker 3: uh D'Angelo Hall got into it was that hard. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that practice. That's oh man, he they was that.
Speaker 3: That's the first time I ever heard him talk.
Speaker 2: So it looks.
Speaker 1: I think the wide receivers in that type of a system,
Speaker 1: the likelihood of them having oh Jo, they're not about
Speaker 1: to have no. Ten twelve touchdowns like you see Davonte
Speaker 1: in some of these other receivers. That's that's not their offense.
Speaker 1: Their offense is not like that. Yeah, it's a spread
Speaker 1: it around offense.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The tight ends might have between the two of them
Speaker 1: might have seven eight touchdowns between the two of them.
Speaker 1: They might have four or five touchdowns. The back's gonna
Speaker 1: have a couple of touchdowns. But that they're not They're
Speaker 1: not a guy. They're not like Davonte gonna have eight.
Speaker 1: One guy gonna have eighteen touchdowns. Yeah, and I mean
Speaker 1: that's that's not that's not their offense, right, And there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that because if you think it had
Speaker 1: been interesting to see, give me when Lamar had forty
Speaker 1: one touchdowns. Let's see the distribution of what it was
Speaker 1: spread out, Cause you know, hey, somebody's gonna have when
Speaker 1: somebody when a quarterback throws for a bunch of touchdowns,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have fifteen, somebody gonna have fourteen, fifteen to eighteen.
Speaker 1: You look at when when you remember, oh Joe, remember
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow a couple of years ago when we called it,
Speaker 1: Chase had seventeen.
Speaker 3: Had seventeen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you ain't pay to have no two guys with
Speaker 1: seventeen the quarterback go throw for seventy touchdowns? Then, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Andrews had eleven, Bateman had nine, likely had six.
Speaker 3: Wait, Bateman had nine last year. Yeah, Oh that was
Speaker 3: a I mean that was a quiet nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah damn.
Speaker 1: So you see one guy double figures, one got almost
Speaker 1: in double figures, and then you have eleven, nine, six, four,
Speaker 1: and then it spread out dumped down to the running back.
Speaker 1: You know, Henry might have had two, and then Mitchell
Speaker 1: might have had one or two.
Speaker 2: Something like that. So I look, I get it. I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: Uh, I get this frustration in our minds. We're the last.
Speaker 1: We're the last one to see it. Oh Joe, we're
Speaker 1: absolutely the last. Just wanted to see it, starts to
Speaker 1: dissipate it. We still were still holding on on you.
Speaker 1: We still remember what we used to be.
Speaker 2: Oo.
Speaker 3: But hey, but but then, you know what, even if
Speaker 3: he's a shell of himself, that shell of himself is
Speaker 3: still good.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: It's still good, and you mentally you feel like you
Speaker 3: can still do it. You just understand. Just give me
Speaker 3: the opportunities, Yes, just give me the opportunities. Why bring
Speaker 3: me in and not use me? What am I doing here?
Speaker 3: Veteran presence leadership?
Speaker 1: Ye?
Speaker 3: Come on, you got you got. I don't want I
Speaker 3: don't want to steal money. I want to earn what
Speaker 3: you're paying me.
Speaker 1: Hey, oh Joe, you know if we get older, you
Speaker 1: know your boy used to put the hammer down the
Speaker 1: baby put the hammer down on your No, I'll be
Speaker 1: sweating for no reason.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know, Hey, it happens when you young.
Speaker 2: Hey, cleaning up the house. They washing a load of clothes.
Speaker 2: What damn y'all got that gotta hee?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm frawled. Hey, oh Joe, they got crime scene
Speaker 1: tape around me.
Speaker 2: I'm dead.
Speaker 1: They don't. They washed two loads of clothes. They up
Speaker 1: there cooking, they do it?
Speaker 4: What God day?
Speaker 3: Oh man?
Speaker 2: I though, I ain't the only way, y'all laughing, y'all know,
Speaker 2: I ain't only what chet I just say it. I mean,
Speaker 2: who lay it on y'all?
Speaker 3: Like who.
Speaker 2: It used to be? Like the load.
Speaker 1: The NFL announced today that over five hundred and forty
Speaker 1: two million dollars will be given to NFL players and
Speaker 1: performance based pay following the twenty twenty five seasons. The
Speaker 1: Performance base Pays program is collectively bargaining benefit. The compensates
Speaker 1: all players based on playing time in salary. Quarterback Naean
Speaker 1: Wright led the way one point four million dollars and
Speaker 1: in in performance bass play Ronnie Hickman one point three million.
Speaker 1: Offensive tackle who was just uh he was with Atlanta
Speaker 1: last year. I think it was with Arizona now. Elijah
Speaker 1: Wilkinson has one point three million dollars. They topped the list.
Speaker 1: As you can see the list right there, in front
Speaker 1: of you. So a lot of these guys are probably
Speaker 1: lower round picks. Oho, well, I mean on bargain contracts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they play a lot. They're playing seventy five eighty
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the snaps and this is what you get.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's that's a good thing too, because most of
Speaker 3: the guys that are getting these in the centives, they
Speaker 3: probably don't have big salaries. Huh not yet.
Speaker 2: No no no, no, no no no no no, no no no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is big, this is big for them.
Speaker 1: You look at Ronnie Hickman, undrafted Friedger, Elijah Alexander, the
Speaker 1: undrafted freedger, Nick Scott, seventh round, seventh round, seventh round,
Speaker 1: undrafted friedger, fourth round, fourth round, fourth round.
Speaker 2: Third round.
Speaker 1: Devin White was the first round pick, but that was
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, so he's not playing on a big contract.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, chat.
Speaker 1: Uh So if you look at the guys there, there's
Speaker 1: only one guy that's in the top fifteen that made
Speaker 1: that was a first round draft pick. Everybody else was
Speaker 1: between third round and an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a good little money. That's a good
Speaker 2: little money right there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that came in like when I
Speaker 1: was like my last two years, though, Joe, you know
Speaker 1: I got a quick little huntres a little hunt or something.
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, wait, you gotta quick centives?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: This this this cause I wasn't you know, I went
Speaker 1: back on a minimum contract. Okay, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: go back. I didn't want I ain't want to start.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to the Raiders. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to go to Seattle. That's too far. My kids
Speaker 1: were young. That was two thousand and two. So my
Speaker 1: kids have been ten and eleven and then gonna be
Speaker 1: traveling from Atlanta and to have my mom. If my
Speaker 1: mom would have had to fly down from Chicago pick
Speaker 1: the kids up, my sister have to pick.
Speaker 3: I'd say, nah, it's too much, it's too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my girl, my girls.
Speaker 1: Could my girlfriend could you know, fly down once stop
Speaker 1: go pick them up?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Nah, I had to think about the kids that it
Speaker 1: wasn't about me making Yeah. I could have made a
Speaker 1: little bit more money, but o, Joe, forget being a
Speaker 1: Pro Bow I'm trying to make the top twenty five
Speaker 1: based team.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you made the Pro Bowl, who look
Speaker 2: at this, man, I'm just looking at you.
Speaker 1: This money, they joked, joke, can make it, o Joe
Speaker 1: got one on top of your contract.
Speaker 2: He who at the top?
Speaker 1: Oh, Nashaun Wright, he made one point four, Okay, Rodney
Speaker 1: Hickman made almost one point three, Elijah Wilkinson almost one
Speaker 1: point three.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of self around draft picks in that thing.
Speaker 1: And undrafted yeah they were what two there were three
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, three seventh round draft picks, and most
Speaker 1: of most of the other guys in the top fifteen.
Speaker 2: Were thirty fourth round picks.
Speaker 1: Like I said, only Devin White was a first round
Speaker 1: draft pick, and that was way back in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: So obviously he's not on that that type of a
Speaker 1: contract currently. He probably played on a minimum contract or
Speaker 1: slight slightly above minimum and plus incentives if he led
Speaker 1: the team in tackles, if he topped five top you know,
Speaker 1: led the league in tackles, or top of forloci, things
Speaker 1: of that nature.
Speaker 2: But congratulations, guys.
Speaker 1: Hey, now it's like, hey, n Sean Wright gonna get
Speaker 1: paid though he about to get hes gonna get a
Speaker 1: big contract.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he played, he played his tail off.
Speaker 5: He nice, be nice, Hey, we you know what now
Speaker 5: that were on the I wanna interject real quick now, yeah, on.
Speaker 3: The topic of we're on the topic of football, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: I have a question. The next topic is still football
Speaker 3: or be going on to something else?
Speaker 2: No, we're still talking football.
Speaker 3: Okay, just between real quick a chat. I need you
Speaker 3: to do me a favor. I need y'all to clip
Speaker 3: what I'm getting ready to say. My Wide Receiver Workshop
Speaker 3: is coming up, right uncle. Yes, I had all the
Speaker 3: young bulls last year. We're doing it in April because
Speaker 3: we don't want to interfere with obviously their vacation time,
Speaker 3: and obviously World Cup is gonna be here, so ain't
Speaker 3: no telling where people gonna be. And I need you receivers.
Speaker 3: I need you people in the chat. If you clip
Speaker 3: this at some point and make sure send it to him,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send him their own formula invite, but I
Speaker 3: need him at the Wide Receiver Workshop. Jamar Chase and
Speaker 3: t Higgins they were here last year. Jayssin was here
Speaker 3: last year, Tyreek Hiell. Depending on where you at, I
Speaker 3: need you Courtland Sutton, Jerry, Judy, Jayden, Reed, Tank, the
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore, Ceedee Lamb. I don't bother you much. Come
Speaker 3: on home. Aman Ross, Saint Brown, Justin Jefferson, Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how rehabits going. Please please, it'd be
Speaker 3: honor they have you come down with the fellas Man,
Speaker 3: Chris Godwin, Chris Olive, Mike Evan. If you're on the
Speaker 3: West coast, I will fly you back to the East coast.
Speaker 3: Your presence is needed. Nico Collins, Please, jayln Water, you're
Speaker 3: right down the street. Ain't no excuses. Aj Brown, Brian Thomas, Junior,
Speaker 3: Devonte Smith, George Pickens, huh, let's finish that conversation in person.
Speaker 3: Please pook in the cool Za Flowers, you're already here
Speaker 3: at home. Mike Wilson, Kean Coleman, Luthor Burdon, Roma Doonze,
Speaker 3: Xavier Legged. If there's anybody that I left off this
Speaker 3: list of receivers, I would like it my Wide Receiver
Speaker 3: workshop this year. You are welcome. I can't I can't
Speaker 3: say everybody's name, but please I beg of you. Just
Speaker 3: get the gether you.
Speaker 2: Receive it that you want to get better, go down
Speaker 2: to Joe's workshop.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on that please. That that's that's just
Speaker 3: that's just a list of names off the top of
Speaker 3: my head that I wrote down, and I look forward
Speaker 3: to seeing all y'all boys the formal invite, I'm i'm, i'm,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send out to your agents. I know y'all
Speaker 3: got a lot of moving parts and moving pieces, but
Speaker 3: I look forward to seeing all y'all.
Speaker 1: There something that salary cap should take state tax into
Speaker 1: a count. The sparks comes from the trade that defensive
Speaker 1: tackle Osi or Digazua from the Cowboys and the tech
Speaker 1: in Texas where there's no state income tax, and he
Speaker 1: was traded to the forty nine ers in California where
Speaker 1: they have the highest state income tax. So you go
Speaker 1: from zero to thirteen point three percent. The real question
Speaker 1: is whether the teams should get morse to spend. Given
Speaker 1: there's more what's paid, it end up being taken off
Speaker 1: the state government. The numbers are significant. The salary cap
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six is three hundred and one million
Speaker 1: point two dollars, So the DRAMs chargers in forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: where the thirteen percent bump would push the cap the
Speaker 1: three point forty one point two. So, in other words,
Speaker 1: so if you look at if you look at that,
Speaker 1: if you were to bump it down. So because the
Speaker 1: state taxes, that's eighteen percent. So if you make thirty
Speaker 1: million dollars, yeah, your contract is thirty million dollars instead
Speaker 1: of California. I'm to sam taking thirteen point three percent
Speaker 1: from before you even see it.
Speaker 2: That's state.
Speaker 1: So now when we kick that federal in there, which
Speaker 1: is thirty six percent, splitting your money fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: So you making thirty million, you making fifteen million.
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's nasty work, boy, that's nasty work. On what
Speaker 3: that West coast. If you play in New York, I
Speaker 3: think New York is like that too.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I think New York, New York, New Jersey
Speaker 1: there around ten percent. You know, there's some states that's
Speaker 1: a little obviously a little higher than others. But if you
Speaker 1: want to play in Florida, you want to play in Texas, Outa, Ohio,
Speaker 1: Tennessee where there's no state income tax, Nlada, there's no
Speaker 1: state Arizona. I think it's like two percent. But then
Speaker 1: you know, most of the states are somewhere anywhere between
Speaker 1: you know, five, just say five and like it's California
Speaker 1: thirteen point three woo, and then California trying to even
Speaker 1: bump it if you higher, and for what what am
Speaker 1: I getting for?
Speaker 3: That? Crime?
Speaker 2: Is still bad?
Speaker 1: Homelessness? Oh excuse me, you can't say homelessness. The unhoused
Speaker 1: problem is still extremely bad. Oh try, I got We
Speaker 1: gotta be correct because people be carried calling in, try
Speaker 1: to get us, try to get us counseled. The unhoused
Speaker 1: community is is getting out of control. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna be politically correct because we know y'all be
Speaker 1: clipping stuff and then y'all try to spend it.
Speaker 2: So this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna speak in only politically correct terms so we
Speaker 1: can avoid this foolishness. So the unhoused or the physically limited,
Speaker 1: which means the disabled community, that's what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: moving forward. Okay, Okay, No, you cannot say homelessness.
Speaker 2: You have to say unhoused.
Speaker 3: Hey I never knew that, huh.
Speaker 2: Well you know it now.
Speaker 1: I do, because trust me, I got people in my
Speaker 1: air constantly, constantly reminding shut up, this is what you
Speaker 1: can say.
Speaker 2: Shout.
Speaker 3: This is what you can't say, right, Okay, So I
Speaker 3: mean we don't we don't, we don't touch those topics.
Speaker 2: Too often.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, but you know, we we just
Speaker 1: be talking like, okay home, I mean, you know what,
Speaker 1: so we use the term n housed. You know, we
Speaker 1: talked to different I talked to different different demographics. I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: what is acceptable? What isn't acceptable? Had a conversation with
Speaker 1: Brad Williams, who is a uh a little person. You
Speaker 1: little person is correct? Also, dwarf, you can't say the
Speaker 1: M word?
Speaker 3: He said, Is that is that offensive?
Speaker 1: Dwarf?
Speaker 2: That is acceptable?
Speaker 3: Huh is that offensive?
Speaker 2: Yes? If you say the N word, it is offensive
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I mean, okay, all right, I'm gonna leave
Speaker 3: that alone.
Speaker 1: So we just we just we we try to be
Speaker 1: as uh acceptable as we possibly can because uh, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, Oh, Joe, you be surprised that we
Speaker 1: be talking and I get off and people don't clip
Speaker 1: some of the things.
Speaker 2: That I've said or what you've said and already got
Speaker 2: it posted.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know, I'm I've always had an unfiltered mouth.
Speaker 3: I've been this way since nineteen seventy eight. So normally
Speaker 3: when I say something, it's like, oh that's O Joe, Okay, next, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're you're you're ye, yeah, but now you're you're more
Speaker 3: polished in that area and in some of the words
Speaker 3: you choose to use. I just been a partty mouth
Speaker 3: all my life.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing is is that you have
Speaker 1: to understand, like, Okay, when you're in the even when
Speaker 1: I'm in the barbershop, I don't know if I'm being recorded,
Speaker 1: so I always use politically correct terms.
Speaker 3: Damn, aren't they be recording the Bible?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: You know what I thought about? They got them glasses?
Speaker 2: What's some glasses called the meta? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, hey, yeah, I mean you got you gotta watch
Speaker 3: out for the meta glasses.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, you do. So that's so you just just
Speaker 1: be careful. Yeah they looking oh Joe Yo. Travis A.
Speaker 2: Chan Jr.
Speaker 1: Both your reporters on how to pronounce his last name.
Speaker 1: They were calling him Aten at Clemsond. But it's like
Speaker 1: Travis H. Chan Junior.
Speaker 2: Take a list of what he had to say.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it growing up Travis A.
Speaker 1: Chan.
Speaker 4: So it was like A C, H A and e uh.
Speaker 4: And that's how you always said Travis A.
Speaker 1: Chang.
Speaker 4: When I went to college, I kept telling my telling
Speaker 4: him my name like every day every day, every day,
Speaker 4: and like I was like four weeks they just couldn't
Speaker 4: get it. So I'm like, man, it's eat like, it's
Speaker 4: how you said, it is how you said uh so,
Speaker 4: and that's that's that's that's how that became. And it
Speaker 4: kind of took off because it was easy for the
Speaker 4: pronouncers to say I didn't have to just tell him
Speaker 4: I have to correct them every day to say my name.
Speaker 4: And just when I kind of just started learning more
Speaker 4: about my last name and how it came about things
Speaker 4: like that, he's just kind of stuck.
Speaker 2: It made sense.
Speaker 4: But uh, I'm very much open to being Travis Chan again,
Speaker 4: just uh being myself. I don't have to correct people
Speaker 4: here on how to say my name each and every day,
Speaker 4: and I kind of love that, and uh that's just
Speaker 4: uh just get get back to me.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute. So it's not Travis at En.
Speaker 1: Nope, it's a chaan. Because remember we had we had
Speaker 1: a Chan from the Dolphins. All Dolphins would ask him.
Speaker 1: I say, what's the correct pronunciation? It is like Jackie Chan, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a chane in the same thing I'm a ten.
Speaker 2: It is pronounced a chan.
Speaker 3: Well, how did we come about that? What's the origin,
Speaker 3: what's the backstory on his name? Is it it for
Speaker 3: for it to be spelled the way it is pronounced completely?
Speaker 2: He's from New Orleans. You hear you hear the kind
Speaker 2: of like the creole.
Speaker 1: And when he got to Clemson, yes, they kept He
Speaker 1: told him what it was, but they it doesn't. It
Speaker 1: doesn't if you look at it in the way it's spelled,
Speaker 1: that doesn't look like it's it's just say a chan.
Speaker 1: It looks like it should say a ten. So they
Speaker 1: called him Travis at En Jr. And it's stuck and
Speaker 1: he didn't correct them.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Robbie Gold, Robbie Gold used to be the kicker for
Speaker 1: the forty nine. If they called you Robbie Good. When
Speaker 1: he was at Chicago, he said, you know, I know
Speaker 1: you guys have been calling me Robbie Goold for a while,
Speaker 1: but asking my nighb is Robbie Gold?
Speaker 3: Right? But why why he got the U in there? Then, bro,
Speaker 3: don't start me laughing. And that listen, that's that's pretty dope.
Speaker 3: That that's pretty dope.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to I'm sure to see Travis chan
Speaker 3: at some point, I would love to hear the backstory
Speaker 3: on the spelling and how you know his parents came
Speaker 3: about giving him that name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you know, like the guy from the The Nuggets,
Speaker 1: it's pronounce its spelled braun b r a u n,
Speaker 1: but it's pronounced.
Speaker 2: Brown, Christian brown.
Speaker 1: It's spelled it looks like it should be Christian braun,
Speaker 1: but it's pronounced Christian brown. So sometimes spelling and pronunciation doesn't.
Speaker 3: Go hand in hand. No not, you know, I know
Speaker 3: very well because that that's spellow sinko man, that's that's
Speaker 3: that's that's rough for me.
Speaker 1: So hopefully down there in New Orleans he's from that area,
Speaker 1: hopefully everything will get corrected and he'll be Travis.
Speaker 2: But that's what uh.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's that's what it is, O Joe. So he's
Speaker 1: correcting people, he says, hopefully. He says he doesn't think
Speaker 1: people have a problem pronouncing his name from because he's
Speaker 1: from that area. They're very familiar with that. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: it took him what five years to get that corrected. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: normally guys, you know, hey, they get that corrected as
Speaker 1: soon as possible.
Speaker 2: It's the hair is the pronunciation.
Speaker 1: Uh uh, I guess they started, but I guess they
Speaker 1: called him te because like DK is the quilling, but
Speaker 1: he goes by DK because it's so hard to say.
Speaker 2: So he's just call me.
Speaker 3: The quilling? What what's the case? What's the case the quilling?
Speaker 2: What DK is for the quilling? Metcalf?
Speaker 3: Okay, hey, I'm called I'm calling him that from now on,
Speaker 3: the quilling?
Speaker 2: Uh Abba.
Speaker 1: Brear wrote about the latest he's hearing on the Max
Speaker 1: Crosby future with the Raiders. Breer reported some of the
Speaker 1: fractured trust between Crosby and the Raiders was rebuilt organically
Speaker 1: last week when the team showed the five time pro
Speaker 1: bowler that it had his back and reaching out and
Speaker 1: offering him any help he needed after Ravers backed out. Uh,
Speaker 1: it won't hurt Clint kobeak effort to build a culture
Speaker 1: to have someone like Crosby. If Crosby buys in, and
Speaker 1: there's no reason to think that he won't, he has
Speaker 1: the potential to be what he's always wanted to be
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, a flag bearer and an agent of change.
Speaker 3: Hey, UK, it sound good. I love the words, right,
Speaker 3: But after a situation like that and a team ships
Speaker 3: you off or let you go, and they bring you back.
Speaker 1: How you been in trust? Look, we don't, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Some people saying that he told him that he wanted out.
Speaker 1: Some people say he never said that. They got an
Speaker 1: offer that they couldn't refuse two first round picks. They
Speaker 1: traded Michael Parsons for two first round picks more time
Speaker 1: than there's been a lot of players traded for two
Speaker 1: first round picks. So it should be a badge of
Speaker 1: honor that somebody thought enough of you that they were
Speaker 1: offering two first rounders, yes, for your services. Okay, things
Speaker 1: didn't work out, So guess what they brought him back? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're happy to have you back, Oh Joe. Behind this,
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't know. I mean, you hear
Speaker 1: a lot of things. He wanted to go, he didn't
Speaker 1: want to go, blah blah blah. We don't really. I
Speaker 1: don't really know the extent. But I know this is
Speaker 1: that they got him back. Yeah, And if they tried
Speaker 1: to trade him again, he's not getting a first When
Speaker 1: somebody fails you on a physical it's hard to overcome
Speaker 1: back that.
Speaker 3: That that sucks too, the physical part. I mean that
Speaker 3: that sucks. I'm I hope he has a speed of recovery,
Speaker 3: gets back healthy and can do what he's always done,
Speaker 3: be dominant you know, at his at his craft. I'm
Speaker 3: hoping Kubiak and the rest of the organization has a
Speaker 3: hell of a plan not only with off season free agency,
Speaker 3: but the draft as well to continue to to build,
Speaker 3: uh what they need necessary to be able to compete
Speaker 3: in that division, because the Broncos have gotten better, the
Speaker 3: Chiefs have gotten better, and at some point the the
Speaker 3: Raiders are gonna have to catch up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, I mean it's look nobody want I
Speaker 1: mean being traded. It's always nice, you know. I was
Speaker 1: potentially traded a couple of times. It didn't happen. Almost
Speaker 1: got traded the Green Bay during the ninety nine season,
Speaker 1: ended up breaks collar.
Speaker 2: You I did you mean you coulda been with Brett Farr. Yeah,
Speaker 2: had I not broke my collar bone, and I would
Speaker 2: have been with Brett Farr.
Speaker 1: Almost got traded in the ninety five off season to
Speaker 1: Arizona for Eric Swan. Uh. The Broncos who was gonna
Speaker 1: give up their first round pick, which was number fifteen,
Speaker 1: ended up being John Mobley, myself and Mike Pritchard for
Speaker 1: X one that didn't go through, so and it's tough.
Speaker 2: It's like, damn, y'all really think y'all be better off
Speaker 2: without me?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I just went to the Pro Bowl Lo show, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was my fourth consecutive Pro Bowl, two times. First
Speaker 1: I was two time All Pro in that span. That
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you're good, but we'd be better without you. Damn,
Speaker 1: that's what I said.
Speaker 2: See, that's what exactly, That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 3: It's hard, listen. I'm glad Max is happy. Obviously in
Speaker 3: the media, in the public, they always gonna say all
Speaker 3: the right things, but for sure, but that it's just
Speaker 3: you already know how dirty this business is. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: You guys have seen how this business operates many and
Speaker 3: many of times. Obviously, players they do what they can
Speaker 3: to say face by saying all the right things on camera,
Speaker 3: but behind closed doors they know how the game goes
Speaker 3: and it sucks. So I'm just hoping they do right
Speaker 3: by Max and he does. You know, he due diligence
Speaker 3: on getting healthy and getting back to doing what he
Speaker 3: does best.
Speaker 1: That's the number one thing, oh Joe, is to get healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we know he's healthy.
Speaker 3: He hell, hey for he the fourth to deal with?
Speaker 2: He he's the top five edge rusher.
Speaker 1: You know, hey, I ain't taking nobody over Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: because I think Miles Garrett is the best defensive playing football.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I can make a case he's the top
Speaker 1: five player in all of football regardless of position. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks hold a lot more valuable then a lot
Speaker 1: more value than any other position. But when you look
Speaker 1: at what Max, Max Robby, what Miles Garrett can do
Speaker 1: and to run tackle for loss, his pressures, he's second
Speaker 1: to none. But like you said, oh Joe, it's tough
Speaker 1: because it's almost like, oh Joe, we filed for divorce
Speaker 1: and then we'll come on back.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, I can't find nothing. I can't find nothing
Speaker 3: else out there. Hey, I can't find none us out
Speaker 3: car to find.
Speaker 1: Out you You you wouldn't, you wouldn't what he thought
Speaker 1: he was, but she would what you thought she would.
Speaker 2: So come on back and accept them.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Hey, after you can't trust after that man, So.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 1: But oh Joe, look at all the grades they traded
Speaker 1: Joe Montana.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Cut Jerry, the cut in it. Come on, what we
Speaker 2: doing here?
Speaker 1: These these these new young players that that that that
Speaker 1: being released or being traded is beneath I could never
Speaker 1: You better go back and check some of the historically
Speaker 1: great players that have been cut and traded.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it happens. Uh, they'll need to stop.
Speaker 1: Max crossboss Is said on this prodcast that he acted
Speaker 1: off the field the way he does on the field,
Speaker 1: he would be in prison. Crosby said, the second I
Speaker 1: put on my cleats and I'm across the line, I'm
Speaker 1: a different environment and I'm and I'm thinking about murdering
Speaker 1: everything in front of me. The second I'm off, I
Speaker 1: can turn it off just like that. And just because
Speaker 1: you have to. I can't be like how I'm on
Speaker 1: the field all the time or I be in prison.
Speaker 1: He's a perfect guy. He's a perfect guy.
Speaker 3: For the Yeah. I mean, listen, I said, I said
Speaker 3: red Hair.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's as he would be.
Speaker 1: He would be like the old Oh Cho the seventies
Speaker 1: Raiders when they had the Tuzak and oder sits drunk
Speaker 1: and all those guys Ben Davidson, Jack Tatum and.
Speaker 3: All those perfect you perfect. I said it before. I mean,
Speaker 3: I didn't think he wanted to be there. But if
Speaker 3: he is, I mean, they lose a huge piece of
Speaker 3: what their identity is. Mac Crosby is the identity. He
Speaker 3: represents everything that the Raiders are and always have been.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So I mean it was kind of weird, kind of
Speaker 3: weird to see him go, But I was also happy
Speaker 3: he went. I wasn't happy he went to the god
Speaker 3: damn Ravens, you know, But I mean, hey, listen, it
Speaker 3: is what it is.
Speaker 1: So if Tom Brady can change change teams, if Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers can change teams, yeah, if you think about the
Speaker 1: greatest players, the greatest players can change teams, what can
Speaker 1: Brady didn't finish your career? Peyton Manning got released? Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all realize Peyton Manning got cut right.
Speaker 2: M VPS.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adrian Peterson, emm it Smith, it happens. It's tough,
Speaker 1: it really is, because it's a blow to your ego.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: All these all pro teams out have made all these
Speaker 1: all these Pro Bowls, dp O Wise and m VPS
Speaker 1: and you saying, you saying that you you better without.
Speaker 3: Me, ye ay. And you know what the problem is
Speaker 3: too with those m vps with those defensive Player of
Speaker 3: the Years, with those Pro Bowls, and maybe add your
Speaker 3: Super Bowls to it as well. Yes, when I want
Speaker 3: to get that money off the books, huh. When I
Speaker 3: want to get that money off the books and you
Speaker 3: want to make somewhere, get some cheap. Now, I might
Speaker 3: not get the production you bring me, but I can
Speaker 3: get half the production and try to make up for
Speaker 3: it in other areas.
Speaker 2: When they get fed up, they fed up. It's really
Speaker 2: that simple. O yo.
Speaker 1: You see it eating one hundred million, the tour depending
Speaker 1: too down the sixty million dollars said, nah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: play for somebody else. It happens the greatest, from Randy
Speaker 1: the t o the Jerry. You're you're top threeceivers. So
Speaker 1: let's say, nah, we're good. It happens, and so I
Speaker 1: can understand, but you know you're happy that then you
Speaker 1: know what they wanted me back.
Speaker 2: So I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I can I can get oh, Joe, you know what
Speaker 1: I can get over that? I can I can get
Speaker 1: over that. Yeah, they tell you it does because you
Speaker 1: think about what you think about what.
Speaker 2: You gave to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: If Cincinnati, because it's like you were like, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: time for a change of scenery. But look at all
Speaker 1: what you had done to Cincinnati from the All Pros
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowls. And they said, yeah, yeah, oh yo,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: I I kind of I kind of knew it was
Speaker 3: coming to though, and I understood it. The funny thing
Speaker 3: about it too. Don't get you know what I was.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was very wise. Actually, while I was still playing
Speaker 3: the game, I understood the ben inside of it, understood
Speaker 3: understood the politics that came with it, which is why
Speaker 3: I played the game with such joy, like a little
Speaker 3: kid that I did, because I understood the benicide and
Speaker 3: I wanted nothing to do with that now. Honestly, when
Speaker 3: obviously the trade happened, I knew it was gonna happen
Speaker 3: because they were drafting a new quarterback. Yeah, they were
Speaker 3: drafting a new receiver, and that new regime was going
Speaker 3: to start, and they want they wanted to start, Frest
Speaker 3: want to start. Yeah, everybody else was. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I hate using the word old, but we were up
Speaker 3: in age. We were up in age. So I understood
Speaker 3: that if if I could have, I would have loved
Speaker 3: to let Marvin Ma listen. I take a pay cut.
Speaker 3: I take a pay cut. Just put me in the slot.
Speaker 3: Put me in the slot. I aj Green do what
Speaker 3: he do on outside. And let me let me just
Speaker 3: if I could be a one Jersey team, if I
Speaker 3: could do it again.
Speaker 2: I would stayed.
Speaker 3: I would. I would definitely stayed. Yeah, I didn't even
Speaker 3: have a choice. I didn't even have a choice. I
Speaker 3: ain't get no phone called on nothing. Uh I think
Speaker 3: jew rosen House hit me and say, uh yeah, they
Speaker 3: shipping your black ass off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh Jo, I wasn't taking no.
Speaker 3: Pay cut, no hell, and let me let me see
Speaker 3: I WoT you.
Speaker 2: You have to understand I had taken I had taken left.
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't getting big signing bonuses, so they was
Speaker 1: really all my money was against the cap.
Speaker 2: So I was the highest paid right hold on.
Speaker 1: So seven consecutive Pro Bowls and an eight year span
Speaker 1: with five for with five all pros, And you want.
Speaker 2: Me to take a pay cut because I have I got.
Speaker 3: Injured, Okay, I think for me, the fact that.
Speaker 1: I take three hundred thousand dollars pay cut, right, that's
Speaker 1: all I give you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have took a pay cut simply because
Speaker 3: when the football seam was over and had so many
Speaker 3: moving parts in the off season, so I was still
Speaker 3: It was like I was damn there working year round.
Speaker 3: So I wasn't a trip. Whatever I take a pay cut,
Speaker 3: and whatever I take whatever pay is cut in I
Speaker 3: would make an off seat anyway, So I really wasn't tripping.
Speaker 3: But obviously it didn't work out that way.
Speaker 1: But no, but look for the best. I'm glad I
Speaker 1: went to Baltimore. I got a chance to win another
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I wanted without the umbrella of Denver, and
Speaker 1: people couldn't question, well, you wasn't gonna be that good
Speaker 1: if you hadn't played in Denver with Lway and Shanahan.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I get all of that, But look, I don't care
Speaker 1: who my teammates were. I was very successful that I
Speaker 1: was a part of three super Bowl winning teams, and
Speaker 1: I like to think I was an integral part on
Speaker 1: all of those. So people gonna try to take shots
Speaker 1: at your old shoe. What you did, this, you did that?
Speaker 1: Look who you played with? Okay, what y'all want me
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 2: Say?
Speaker 1: I wish I had to play with Elway. I wish
Speaker 1: Mike wasn't my head coach. I don't think Brady. I
Speaker 1: don't know how Brady feels, you know, feels about h
Speaker 1: coach Belichick. But he'll never say he wished he would
Speaker 1: than his head coach, right, not after what they accomplished.
Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes you don't get along. Everybody don't
Speaker 1: get along. This notion that you think that everybody should
Speaker 1: get along, that ain't happening. Just like you don't get along.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, O Joe. Everybody don't get along at the job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we saw that. We saw the Lakers, Hey, Chuck, we
Speaker 1: contend us. Yet all I know, we the third seed,
Speaker 1: third seed just took down the Rockets the ninety two.
Speaker 1: I saw that Luca had thirty six, six and four
Speaker 1: Lebron we had eighteen five and five. Oust Reeves had
Speaker 1: fifteen three and five. Marcut smart chip there with eleven
Speaker 1: DA gave us eleven rebounds with seven points.
Speaker 2: We got team points off the bench. We can roll
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: We can roll with that for either thirty three minutes
Speaker 1: from a Little Lightlifted. Little Lightlifted had the highest plus
Speaker 1: minus of anybody on the court tonight. But Lakas are
Speaker 1: playing well, They're playing some good basketball. They're playing some
Speaker 1: good basketball. Lucas Lucas Luca. He gets off to that
Speaker 1: heart start. I mean, now you.
Speaker 2: Kind of like at his mercy what Luca had tonight
Speaker 2: unk thirty six six and four, thirty six six and four.
Speaker 1: And there are two players right now in the league
Speaker 1: averaging twenty five and five, Joker, Joker gets who the
Speaker 1: other one is?
Speaker 3: Are you either Shay or Shay or Luca.
Speaker 2: Lebron? I think there's two players? H Shake gonna win
Speaker 2: the MVP.
Speaker 3: Not even not even close. Huh. Even the fact, even
Speaker 3: with the time that he missed, he's still gonna win
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he ain't missed.
Speaker 1: He missed over the a lot of games, so uh,
Speaker 1: and Joker can only miss one more game. So if
Speaker 1: he missed one more game, he cool. But if he
Speaker 1: missed two more games, he's out of the running. Is
Speaker 1: out of the running. So for me, it's Shaye, it's
Speaker 1: uh Yoke, it's a cad, it's uh JB, And it's Luca. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Wimby and Wimby in Winby. But the Lakers get
Speaker 1: a big win tonight. They needed this. Uh, they start
Speaker 1: their road trip they got they got the same team
Speaker 1: again Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Oh, man. If I'm a head coach, I'm flying y'all
Speaker 2: ass back to LA.
Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna leave y'all down here Monday night,
Speaker 1: Tuesday night in Houston?
Speaker 2: Oh no, y'all got to go. O Joe.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you had the Super Bowl in Houston? Now,
Speaker 1: I don't want to think about I would do. I
Speaker 1: would do my part a nightcap remote. I ain't showing up.
Speaker 1: You gonna be a You're gonna be a Houston by
Speaker 1: yourself if you do a bottle video conference.
Speaker 3: And if you don't show up, I ain't showing up.
Speaker 1: I said to be down there for oh Joe, Monday night,
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night, getting up
Speaker 1: out of their sat oh yo for real?
Speaker 3: No, no, sir, No sir