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Speaker 1: Uh ocho the chiefs huh hold on, I thought you

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Speaker 3: The baby birthday was a day.

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Speaker 2: Whatever? Before? After you asked Joe to get them tickets.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Chad, y'all get on me. Man up.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to do anything with o Joe. This is

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Speaker 3: We talk about Atlanta Hawks. Ain't nothing five ten thousand

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Speaker 3: them tickets calls of course for Joe Johnson free.

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Speaker 3: Hey, but hey, listen to me. But my daughter's birthday

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Speaker 1: Uh, there you go, right there. The Chiefs find that

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Speaker 1: They agreed to send a twenty twenty seven sixth round

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Speaker 1: Talking about this because the reports had come out that

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Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of like it because I'll go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like this. Andy loves mobile quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Patrick Justin Fields is a lot more mobile than

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that, but I kind of like this.

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Speaker 3: Oh? Well, listen, if going to Kansas City, if you

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he can figure it out, because look, we throw

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think the Jets. Uh, I don't think

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Speaker 2: Hell, nah, y'all, lisen this, no rip this, Hey, I.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately that job was the New York Jets, and

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Speaker 3: But it is what it is. It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: So justin Fields, seeing what he looked like when he's

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't take much because Andy's system is very

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Speaker 2: And you see what he did.

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Speaker 1: Andy came there and you got myhomes and then Alex

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Speaker 2: But you know, we look at what he was throwing to.

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna he's going to have to play better

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Speaker 1: because I agree, I think, oh your people are more

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Speaker 1: in the right direction, Yes, but they never committed. They

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Speaker 1: and you know, Mike Tomlin never committed, like, well, if

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Speaker 3: Justin field job.

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Speaker 1: He didn't make. He didn't make that declaration. So I

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Speaker 2: But this is an insurance policy.

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Speaker 1: It only cost him three million dollars the Jets picking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, listen, that's a good team to be around too.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, O, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets tough there, it gets tough after that,

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Speaker 3: Get it gets real tough, It get real slim after that.

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Speaker 1: Man, Poe, Joe, give me put this up. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: for who Joe?

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Speaker 3: What happened?

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Speaker 2: He up there at the game by himself. He wasn't

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Speaker 3: It was hold on head. I'm gonna let you. I'm

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Speaker 2: There you go somebody.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you argue with arguing the chat.

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Speaker 2: Oh you see, Oh Joe, this this don't need to

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe know his he knows with all his kid's birthday,

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Speaker 1: he knows if he's out of town, he's gonna contact

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Speaker 3: Tell her how you gonna tell her what to do?

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Speaker 2: What she told you what to do?

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Speaker 3: If she said I need you here today, I'm here today.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well so what but oh Joe, you hadn't made plans.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I don't give a about no plans. If my

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Speaker 2: Well you should have what you should have did that

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Speaker 3: I talked to Joe already. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: I talked to Joe earlier today. Now, y'all, don't piss

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Oh Joe, how you getting ticked off because

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Speaker 1: you putting this You putting this request there for a man.

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Speaker 3: Listen, man I send that man? Is money for a ticket?

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Speaker 3: Y'all acting like it's that goddamn serious. I said, it's

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Speaker 3: the ef you could do? Now that's the last timna

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I play around a lot. My

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be going the rest of the week till Sunday.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, that's wrong.

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Speaker 3: I talked wait and no, let me finish. I talked

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 3: We make it a little bit more complicated than we should.

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Speaker 2: Nobody is.

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Speaker 3: It's a serious matter. You're telling me about a basketball

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Speaker 2: You the one that recommended you go to the game.

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Speaker 2: He didn't.

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Speaker 3: Go to the game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what are you saying?

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Speaker 1: You are the right thing by staying for your child's birthday?

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Speaker 3: So why do we even?

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Speaker 1: No one is saying, oh Joe, oh Joe, Now, how

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Speaker 3: Can when you when you when you have something to

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Speaker 3: do important? Do I say anything?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. So why y'all making it a

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Speaker 3: we talk about a basketball game.

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Speaker 2: O Jo.

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Speaker 1: But here, this is why in chat now you're understand,

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Speaker 1: this is why I don't commit, because things come up

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Speaker 1: and to make that commit. That's why when people say, Shannon,

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Speaker 1: can you do this, Shannon, can you go there? I

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Speaker 1: up just like that and I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't aford it.

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Speaker 2: Somebody have to do that, not back out of it.

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Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with anything at all right now,

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Speaker 3: that has nothing to do anything. Hey, I need you

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Speaker 3: here for your child's birthday. We got to move it up.

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Speaker 3: Her birthday's tomorrow, so we had to move there because

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Speaker 3: I got why you couldn't move it back? Moving back

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Speaker 3: where the birthday?

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Speaker 2: What is the birthday?

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Speaker 3: How about her birthday is tomorrow? Okay, so I'm not

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Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Okay, how about is here.

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Speaker 2: Birthday?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Hold on, hey, matter of fact, matter of fact,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you your number so you can explain

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Speaker 2: Why you gotta do all.

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Speaker 3: This because because because we're making it more than what

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Speaker 3: it really is. We tell about the basketball game acting

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Speaker 3: or something.

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Speaker 2: Oh yo, come.

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Speaker 1: Oh happy birthday.

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Speaker 3: Bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: I was just saying, Oh, Jo comebo bad. But I understand,

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Speaker 3: don't care what I got to do. I don't I

442
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Speaker 3: don't care. And anybody don't like it. You know what

443
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Speaker 3: time it is. I mean, no disrespect, no, no disrespect

444
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Speaker 3: to the chat and and and you. I'm just saying

445
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Speaker 3: some people trying to make jokes and he he ha

446
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Speaker 3: ha he he ha ha.

447
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Speaker 2: Hell Chad, what y'all think of chat? Y'all left? He

448
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 2: left Jones dump.

449
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Speaker 3: Hey, you still going?

450
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Speaker 2: That's a matter fact? Has a better fact?

451
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Speaker 1: Give me, give me, give me, give me your child,

452
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Speaker 1: give me a co parenting number.

453
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: I would have talked to her.

454
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Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on calling me.

455
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: Now, we don't need to talk. We re to go.

456
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Speaker 2: We fit to move on.

457
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins says he fell underutilized this season, especially in

458
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: the red zone. First, a Ravens fan, tweeted his one

459
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: hand to catch in Week one versus the Bill, saying,

460
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Speaker 1: if the Ravens are in the market for a veteran

461
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver, which I suspect they are, they should do

462
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: a deal to bring DeAndre Hopkins back to Baltimore. What

463
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 1: a catch this was. In response, d Hopkins says, how

464
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Speaker 1: many times after this do you think I was used

465
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Speaker 1: in the red zone when targeted? I'm still one of

466
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Speaker 1: the best, still one of the most productive, but never

467
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: complained with my snaps and never will facts. D Hawk,

468
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: Who's thirty three, finished the season with twenty two catches,

469
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Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty yards and only two touchdowns.

470
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Speaker 3: Oh Joe, I hate that. I hate when they do

471
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Speaker 3: this to us.

472
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead, talk to me.

473
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Speaker 3: I hate when they do this to us. A chat.

474
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 3: I hate when you when you reach your thirties. As

475
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Speaker 3: great as DeAndre Hopkins was, as as much as what

476
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 3: I know he can, he can do and provide for offense,

477
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: especially one like the Baltimore Ravens, and to be underutilized

478
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 3: understanding how good he is in one on one situations

479
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: and goal line situations. Uh fifty to fifty balls, turning

480
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 3: it turn into ninety ten. When it comes to him,

481
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 3: when it comes to making contested catches, all you got

482
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 3: to do is just throw it in the vicinity. He

483
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: has hands like Larry fer and Gerald. I'm not sure

484
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: what his drop rates, what drop his drop percentage is,

485
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 3: but I'm sure it's up there with some of the

486
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Speaker 3: best in the NFL, like Chris Carter and Larryfern Gerald.

487
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: Once you hit your thirties on they continue to weed

488
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Speaker 3: you out. Obviously on the team they don't use as much,

489
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: obviously because they they more so use the young bulls

490
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: and the young bucks that they do have. But he's

491
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Speaker 3: such an extreme talent, even at thirty three. I understand

492
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Speaker 3: the production that he can have, but it's just I

493
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: hate that they weed you out. I mean, it happened

494
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Speaker 3: to it happened to all of us. I'm Julio Jones.

495
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Speaker 3: You know, I can go down the list of all

496
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Speaker 3: the great receivers that were great at one time, and

497
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: they go to teams and they're unutilized just because of age.

498
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: And that's the way they weed you out in general.

499
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 3: And at some point it's gonna come to a point

500
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Speaker 3: where the game is so young, where there's no more

501
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 3: opportunities left for you.

502
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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you know this. Once you start going every year,

503
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: it's year to year. You're only gonna be there one year. Yeah,

504
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: the likelihood of them bringing you back. You saw what happened.

505
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: He went to Kansas City, and he went over here,

506
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: and he went over there. He might as well get

507
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Speaker 1: accustomed to if he wants to stay for an extended

508
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Speaker 1: period of time. Yeah, just says, Look, you know what,

509
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm a high gun. I'm here one. It's a temp service. Now,

510
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: anybody that's in the chat nobody temp service. Yeah, you're

511
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: there temporarily. He's gonna be on these teams temporarily. They're

512
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Speaker 1: not looking for DeAndre Hopkins to be a long term solution.

513
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Speaker 2: He might believe he can.

514
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Speaker 1: And I don't have any reason to believe that he can't,

515
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: but I'm saying they're not going to give you those

516
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Speaker 1: opportunities because they don't intend for you to be there

517
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Speaker 1: after the time in which you are there, which is

518
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Speaker 1: basically the football season.

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate that.

520
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: It is what thato, That's what it is.

521
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I hate the way that business

522
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: works like that, especially when you have a player that

523
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: is really good at what they're do, I mean, really

524
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Speaker 3: good at what they do and really good at what

525
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: they've done, but again, the opportunity, the opportunities decrease. I

526
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: hate that. I hate that. If you give him the

527
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: opportunities like he had when he was at Houston and

528
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 3: put him in a position to make those plays, he

529
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: can still make those plays. But obviously it's the way

530
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Speaker 3: and the business does most of them.

531
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they will ever be the Oh Joe,

532
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Speaker 1: they don't do that, But they don't do that to Dante.

533
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Speaker 1: They don't put him in position like he was in

534
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Speaker 1: Green Bay because this Pooka's team.

535
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Oh, they're not.

536
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Speaker 1: Gonna put him in that because even though we even

537
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: though Zay Flyers as five eight, five nine, whatever the case.

538
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: He's their number one receiver.

539
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Speaker 1: He's getting those opportunities and the two tight ends they're

540
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: gonna get second and third priority and then probably with

541
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Speaker 1: Shawan babe, but he's gonna get fourth Friday. So a

542
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Speaker 1: best case on the absolute best case scenario, yeah, de

543
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Speaker 1: hop is the field option. Yeah, but see you always

544
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Speaker 1: know the fieldth option on't show you already.

545
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Speaker 3: Know a very seldom, very seldom. But why even bring

546
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Speaker 3: him in on Why even why even bring him in?

547
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Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me.

548
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they know they're not going to use him

549
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Speaker 2: in the capacity that.

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Speaker 1: In order to maximize him, you're gonna have to use

551
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Speaker 1: him in the capacity. And I don't, I don't know,

552
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Speaker 1: I don't think you Look, he's saying, use him in

553
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Speaker 1: the red zone. And I think he still can be

554
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Speaker 1: a valuable, a viable option in the red zone, but

555
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: they're more apt to run the ball and when they

556
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Speaker 1: do throw it in.

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Speaker 2: I mean he had him a couple of times.

558
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Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar missed him a few times, but for

559
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Speaker 1: the most part, they're not putting him in situations where

560
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Speaker 1: he can succeed, which is the red zone. He's oh Joe,

561
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Speaker 1: He's never been a guy that had blinding speed, so

562
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Speaker 1: he's he's even less fast than he was when he

563
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: came into the league. But he still has great hands.

564
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: He still has a huge catch radius. So that's why

565
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Speaker 1: he's said, give me in the red zone, give me

566
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Speaker 1: some opportunities. Let me high point the ball showed of me. Yeah,

567
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: all the things I can still.

568
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Speaker 3: Do, yeah, I say. And this this is a difference

569
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Speaker 3: between the Ravens offense and how you mentioned Devonte Adams, right, Yeah,

570
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Speaker 3: he led the NFL in touchdowns. I be not mistaken. Yeah, well, yes, yes,

571
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: they throw the ball so much over there, and Devonte

572
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Speaker 3: Adams is still so good, obviously still the best, He's

573
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Speaker 3: actually still the best route running the league. Obviously thrown

574
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Speaker 3: Ross Saint Brown in there as well, who's mainly in

575
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Speaker 3: the slot. But when it comes to outside receivers and

576
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 3: it comes to running rounds, Devonte is still that guy,

577
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: which is why his numbers looked at Whey they did,

578
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 3: and they throw the ball so got there much over

579
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Speaker 3: there in LA. So I think that that that also

580
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: it kind of hurts being the fifth option down there

581
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Speaker 3: in Baltimore.

582
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Speaker 1: It does. But plus you look at at Matthew Stafford.

583
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: How many back shoulders has he thrown the Calvin Johnson.

584
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: So now he gets a guy that's not as big

585
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Speaker 1: as Calvin Johnson but can throw the back shoulder.

586
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: It just automatic.

587
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: Davante is one of the back shoulders best back shoulder.

588
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: Catching all of football, especially Rogers him and Aaron.

589
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: You can't stop it. If you behind him, he gonna

590
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: throw it over the top. If you're on top of me,

591
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: he gonna throw it behind you. So I'm like, you're like, okay, well, damn, coach,

592
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: what you want me to do? And like you said,

593
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: he's still an elite route runner.

594
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: Yes, done, And.

595
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: But it's a but they they are two different receivers.

596
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: People don't look at People still believe that the divantee.

597
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: That's why he's making max dollars. He's making twenty twenty

598
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year, twenty million dollars a year,

599
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: because they still believe he's a viable option that at

600
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Speaker 1: worst case scenario, he can be a two, possibly a

601
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: one if Pookah goes out. Remember at Jacksonville, ohow he

602
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: had three touchdowns? How many games we see him at three?

603
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: Two touchdowns?

604
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: He?

605
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Speaker 1: I mean he got fourteen touchdowns. Then he missed a

606
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: couple of games. He's still the guy. He's still he's

607
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: a Some guys are just touchdown magnets, t O and Randy,

608
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: Chris Carter, Jerry, those guys. I get another guy, uh

609
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates. Man, I can never go like Gates.

610
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

611
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm like, damn, I said, man, I'll

612
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: be watching Gates. I'm like, well, Damn, I had retired

613
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: when he became what he became. And I'm looking at him, like, damn.

614
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: They getting the ball down in the REP. They get

615
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: down to the ten, they throwt it to it and

616
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: they're like, well, go get op option away. They run

617
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: Zorro route, they run options, they run stick, they run choice.

618
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, damn, but some guys can just score,

619
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: have that ability to just score the damn football. They

620
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: have that ability. O Joe, you and I were yardage guys.

621
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get yardish. We might have six for a

622
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: buck twenty and no touchdown. Somebody else gona come along

623
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: and have three for seventy five and two touchdowns.

624
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: But but that's the way it is.

625
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: I know he's he's frustrated, But once you start bouncing around,

626
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: O Joe's in Kansas City, and you remember he was

627
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: at the he was in Tennessee and now he's in Baltimore,

628
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: and that it's just if I'm him and I want

629
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: to and I want to, you know, stay.

630
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: In the league.

631
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: Would you hang it?

632
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: Would you hang it up? Not complaining, well, he.

633
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: Never complained before. He don't even hell d hop, don't

634
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: even talk.

635
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

636
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: He reminded me unless you know him personally and you

637
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: actually have a conversation with him. He remind me of

638
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: Troy Polamalu or remind me of Chris Henry. You know, God,

639
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: God got rest in peace individuals that play the game,

640
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: and you never ever hit him talk. I think the

641
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: last time I heard d Hop talk is seeing him

642
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: in person. And then obviously when him and God damn

643
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: uh D'Angelo Hall got into it was that hard. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

644
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: that's that practice. That's oh man, he they was that.

645
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: That's the first time I ever heard him talk.

646
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: So it looks.

647
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: I think the wide receivers in that type of a system,

648
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: the likelihood of them having oh Jo, they're not about

649
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: to have no. Ten twelve touchdowns like you see Davonte

650
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: in some of these other receivers. That's that's not their offense.

651
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: Their offense is not like that. Yeah, it's a spread

652
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: it around offense.

653
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: You know.

654
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: The tight ends might have between the two of them

655
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Speaker 1: might have seven eight touchdowns between the two of them.

656
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: They might have four or five touchdowns. The back's gonna

657
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: have a couple of touchdowns. But that they're not They're

658
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: not a guy. They're not like Davonte gonna have eight.

659
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: One guy gonna have eighteen touchdowns. Yeah, and I mean

660
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: that's that's not that's not their offense, right, And there's

661
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that because if you think it had

662
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: been interesting to see, give me when Lamar had forty

663
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: one touchdowns. Let's see the distribution of what it was

664
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: spread out, Cause you know, hey, somebody's gonna have when

665
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: somebody when a quarterback throws for a bunch of touchdowns,

666
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have fifteen, somebody gonna have fourteen, fifteen to eighteen.

667
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: You look at when when you remember, oh Joe, remember

668
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow a couple of years ago when we called it,

669
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Chase had seventeen.

670
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: Had seventeen.

671
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you ain't pay to have no two guys with

672
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: seventeen the quarterback go throw for seventy touchdowns? Then, yeah,

673
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: so Andrews had eleven, Bateman had nine, likely had six.

674
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: Wait, Bateman had nine last year. Yeah, Oh that was

675
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: a I mean that was a quiet nine.

676
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah damn.

677
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: So you see one guy double figures, one got almost

678
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: in double figures, and then you have eleven, nine, six, four,

679
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: and then it spread out dumped down to the running back.

680
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: You know, Henry might have had two, and then Mitchell

681
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: might have had one or two.

682
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: Something like that. So I look, I get it. I

683
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: get it.

684
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Uh, I get this frustration in our minds. We're the last.

685
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: We're the last one to see it. Oh Joe, we're

686
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: absolutely the last. Just wanted to see it, starts to

687
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: dissipate it. We still were still holding on on you.

688
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: We still remember what we used to be.

689
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: Oo.

690
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 3: But hey, but but then, you know what, even if

691
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: he's a shell of himself, that shell of himself is

692
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: still good.

693
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

694
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: It's still good, and you mentally you feel like you

695
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: can still do it. You just understand. Just give me

696
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: the opportunities, Yes, just give me the opportunities. Why bring

697
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: me in and not use me? What am I doing here?

698
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: Veteran presence leadership?

699
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: Ye?

700
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: Come on, you got you got. I don't want I

701
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: don't want to steal money. I want to earn what

702
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: you're paying me.

703
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: Hey, oh Joe, you know if we get older, you

704
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: know your boy used to put the hammer down the

705
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: baby put the hammer down on your No, I'll be

706
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: sweating for no reason.

707
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: Damn.

708
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know, Hey, it happens when you young.

709
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: Hey, cleaning up the house. They washing a load of clothes.

710
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: What damn y'all got that gotta hee?

711
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm frawled. Hey, oh Joe, they got crime scene

712
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: tape around me.

713
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: I'm dead.

714
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: They don't. They washed two loads of clothes. They up

715
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: there cooking, they do it?

716
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: What God day?

717
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: Oh man?

718
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: I though, I ain't the only way, y'all laughing, y'all know,

719
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: I ain't only what chet I just say it. I mean,

720
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: who lay it on y'all?

721
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: Like who.

722
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: It used to be? Like the load.

723
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: The NFL announced today that over five hundred and forty

724
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: two million dollars will be given to NFL players and

725
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: performance based pay following the twenty twenty five seasons. The

726
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: Performance base Pays program is collectively bargaining benefit. The compensates

727
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: all players based on playing time in salary. Quarterback Naean

728
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: Wright led the way one point four million dollars and

729
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: in in performance bass play Ronnie Hickman one point three million.

730
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: Offensive tackle who was just uh he was with Atlanta

731
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: last year. I think it was with Arizona now. Elijah

732
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Wilkinson has one point three million dollars. They topped the list.

733
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: As you can see the list right there, in front

734
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: of you. So a lot of these guys are probably

735
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: lower round picks. Oho, well, I mean on bargain contracts. Yeah,

736
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: and they play a lot. They're playing seventy five eighty

737
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: ninety percent of the snaps and this is what you get.

738
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: Hey, that's that's a good thing too, because most of

739
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: the guys that are getting these in the centives, they

740
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: probably don't have big salaries. Huh not yet.

741
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: No no no, no, no no no no no, no no no.

742
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is big, this is big for them.

743
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: You look at Ronnie Hickman, undrafted Friedger, Elijah Alexander, the

744
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: undrafted freedger, Nick Scott, seventh round, seventh round, seventh round,

745
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: undrafted friedger, fourth round, fourth round, fourth round.

746
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: Third round.

747
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: Devin White was the first round pick, but that was

748
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, so he's not playing on a big contract.

749
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Excuse me, chat.

750
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: Uh So if you look at the guys there, there's

751
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: only one guy that's in the top fifteen that made

752
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: that was a first round draft pick. Everybody else was

753
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: between third round and an undrafted free agent.

754
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: That's a that's a good little money. That's a good

755
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: little money right there.

756
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that came in like when I

757
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: was like my last two years, though, Joe, you know

758
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: I got a quick little huntres a little hunt or something.

759
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, wait, you gotta quick centives?

760
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

761
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: This this this cause I wasn't you know, I went

762
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: back on a minimum contract. Okay, I just wanted to

763
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: go back. I didn't want I ain't want to start.

764
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to the Raiders. I didn't

765
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: want to go to Seattle. That's too far. My kids

766
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: were young. That was two thousand and two. So my

767
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: kids have been ten and eleven and then gonna be

768
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: traveling from Atlanta and to have my mom. If my

769
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: mom would have had to fly down from Chicago pick

770
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: the kids up, my sister have to pick.

771
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 3: I'd say, nah, it's too much, it's too much.

772
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, my girl, my girls.

773
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: Could my girlfriend could you know, fly down once stop

774
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: go pick them up?

775
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: You know.

776
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Nah, I had to think about the kids that it

777
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: wasn't about me making Yeah. I could have made a

778
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: little bit more money, but o, Joe, forget being a

779
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Pro Bow I'm trying to make the top twenty five

780
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: based team.

781
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if you made the Pro Bowl, who look

782
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: at this, man, I'm just looking at you.

783
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: This money, they joked, joke, can make it, o Joe

784
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: got one on top of your contract.

785
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: He who at the top?

786
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: Oh, Nashaun Wright, he made one point four, Okay, Rodney

787
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: Hickman made almost one point three, Elijah Wilkinson almost one

788
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: point three.

789
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

790
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: A lot of self around draft picks in that thing.

791
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: And undrafted yeah they were what two there were three

792
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, three seventh round draft picks, and most

793
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: of most of the other guys in the top fifteen.

794
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: Were thirty fourth round picks.

795
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: Like I said, only Devin White was a first round

796
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: draft pick, and that was way back in twenty nineteen.

797
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: So obviously he's not on that that type of a

798
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: contract currently. He probably played on a minimum contract or

799
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: slight slightly above minimum and plus incentives if he led

800
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: the team in tackles, if he topped five top you know,

801
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: led the league in tackles, or top of forloci, things

802
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: of that nature.

803
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 2: But congratulations, guys.

804
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: Hey, now it's like, hey, n Sean Wright gonna get

805
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: paid though he about to get hes gonna get a

806
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: big contract.

807
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he played, he played his tail off.

808
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 5: He nice, be nice, Hey, we you know what now

809
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 5: that were on the I wanna interject real quick now, yeah, on.

810
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 3: The topic of we're on the topic of football, right, Yes,

811
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: I have a question. The next topic is still football

812
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: or be going on to something else?

813
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: No, we're still talking football.

814
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: Okay, just between real quick a chat. I need you

815
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: to do me a favor. I need y'all to clip

816
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 3: what I'm getting ready to say. My Wide Receiver Workshop

817
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: is coming up, right uncle. Yes, I had all the

818
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: young bulls last year. We're doing it in April because

819
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: we don't want to interfere with obviously their vacation time,

820
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: and obviously World Cup is gonna be here, so ain't

821
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: no telling where people gonna be. And I need you receivers.

822
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 3: I need you people in the chat. If you clip

823
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: this at some point and make sure send it to him,

824
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send him their own formula invite, but I

825
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: need him at the Wide Receiver Workshop. Jamar Chase and

826
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: t Higgins they were here last year. Jayssin was here

827
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: last year, Tyreek Hiell. Depending on where you at, I

828
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 3: need you Courtland Sutton, Jerry, Judy, Jayden, Reed, Tank, the

829
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: Elijah Moore, Ceedee Lamb. I don't bother you much. Come

830
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: on home. Aman Ross, Saint Brown, Justin Jefferson, Malik Neighbors.

831
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how rehabits going. Please please, it'd be

832
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: honor they have you come down with the fellas Man,

833
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: Chris Godwin, Chris Olive, Mike Evan. If you're on the

834
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: West coast, I will fly you back to the East coast.

835
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: Your presence is needed. Nico Collins, Please, jayln Water, you're

836
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 3: right down the street. Ain't no excuses. Aj Brown, Brian Thomas, Junior,

837
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: Devonte Smith, George Pickens, huh, let's finish that conversation in person.

838
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: Please pook in the cool Za Flowers, you're already here

839
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: at home. Mike Wilson, Kean Coleman, Luthor Burdon, Roma Doonze,

840
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: Xavier Legged. If there's anybody that I left off this

841
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: list of receivers, I would like it my Wide Receiver

842
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: workshop this year. You are welcome. I can't I can't

843
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 3: say everybody's name, but please I beg of you. Just

844
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: get the gether you.

845
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: Receive it that you want to get better, go down

846
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: to Joe's workshop.

847
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: Come on, come on that please. That that's that's just

848
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: that's just a list of names off the top of

849
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: my head that I wrote down, and I look forward

850
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: to seeing all y'all boys the formal invite, I'm i'm, i'm,

851
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna send out to your agents. I know y'all

852
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: got a lot of moving parts and moving pieces, but

853
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: I look forward to seeing all y'all.

854
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: There something that salary cap should take state tax into

855
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: a count. The sparks comes from the trade that defensive

856
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: tackle Osi or Digazua from the Cowboys and the tech

857
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: in Texas where there's no state income tax, and he

858
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: was traded to the forty nine ers in California where

859
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: they have the highest state income tax. So you go

860
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: from zero to thirteen point three percent. The real question

861
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: is whether the teams should get morse to spend. Given

862
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: there's more what's paid, it end up being taken off

863
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: the state government. The numbers are significant. The salary cap

864
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six is three hundred and one million

865
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: point two dollars, So the DRAMs chargers in forty nine ers,

866
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: where the thirteen percent bump would push the cap the

867
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: three point forty one point two. So, in other words,

868
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: so if you look at if you look at that,

869
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: if you were to bump it down. So because the

870
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: state taxes, that's eighteen percent. So if you make thirty

871
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: million dollars, yeah, your contract is thirty million dollars instead

872
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: of California. I'm to sam taking thirteen point three percent

873
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: from before you even see it.

874
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: That's state.

875
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: So now when we kick that federal in there, which

876
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: is thirty six percent, splitting your money fifty to fifty.

877
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: So you making thirty million, you making fifteen million.

878
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's nasty work, boy, that's nasty work. On what

879
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: that West coast. If you play in New York, I

880
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: think New York is like that too.

881
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, I think New York, New York, New Jersey

882
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: there around ten percent. You know, there's some states that's

883
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: a little obviously a little higher than others. But if you

884
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: want to play in Florida, you want to play in Texas, Outa, Ohio,

885
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: Tennessee where there's no state income tax, Nlada, there's no

886
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: state Arizona. I think it's like two percent. But then

887
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, most of the states are somewhere anywhere between

888
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, five, just say five and like it's California

889
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: thirteen point three woo, and then California trying to even

890
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: bump it if you higher, and for what what am

891
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: I getting for?

892
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: That? Crime?

893
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: Is still bad?

894
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: Homelessness? Oh excuse me, you can't say homelessness. The unhoused

895
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: problem is still extremely bad. Oh try, I got We

896
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: gotta be correct because people be carried calling in, try

897
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: to get us, try to get us counseled. The unhoused

898
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: community is is getting out of control. So we're gonna

899
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna be politically correct because we know y'all be

900
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: clipping stuff and then y'all try to spend it.

901
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: So this is what we're gonna do.

902
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna speak in only politically correct terms so we

903
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: can avoid this foolishness. So the unhoused or the physically limited,

904
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: which means the disabled community, that's what we're gonna do

905
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: moving forward. Okay, Okay, No, you cannot say homelessness.

906
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: You have to say unhoused.

907
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 3: Hey I never knew that, huh.

908
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: Well you know it now.

909
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: I do, because trust me, I got people in my

910
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: air constantly, constantly reminding shut up, this is what you

911
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: can say.

912
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: Shout.

913
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 3: This is what you can't say, right, Okay, So I

914
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 3: mean we don't we don't, we don't touch those topics.

915
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 2: Too often.

916
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, but you know, we we just

917
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: be talking like, okay home, I mean, you know what,

918
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: so we use the term n housed. You know, we

919
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: talked to different I talked to different different demographics. I said, Okay,

920
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: what is acceptable? What isn't acceptable? Had a conversation with

921
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Brad Williams, who is a uh a little person. You

922
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: little person is correct? Also, dwarf, you can't say the

923
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: M word?

924
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: He said, Is that is that offensive?

925
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: Dwarf?

926
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: That is acceptable?

927
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: Huh is that offensive?

928
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: Yes? If you say the N word, it is offensive

929
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: to them.

930
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I mean, okay, all right, I'm gonna leave

931
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 3: that alone.

932
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: So we just we just we we try to be

933
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: as uh acceptable as we possibly can because uh, you know,

934
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: like I said, Oh, Joe, you be surprised that we

935
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: be talking and I get off and people don't clip

936
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 1: some of the things.

937
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: That I've said or what you've said and already got

938
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: it posted.

939
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know, I'm I've always had an unfiltered mouth.

940
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: I've been this way since nineteen seventy eight. So normally

941
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: when I say something, it's like, oh that's O Joe, Okay, next, Yeah,

942
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: you're you're you're ye, yeah, but now you're you're more

943
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 3: polished in that area and in some of the words

944
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: you choose to use. I just been a partty mouth

945
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 3: all my life.

946
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing is is that you have

947
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: to understand, like, Okay, when you're in the even when

948
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm in the barbershop, I don't know if I'm being recorded,

949
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: so I always use politically correct terms.

950
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: Damn, aren't they be recording the Bible?

951
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: You know what?

952
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: You know what I thought about? They got them glasses?

953
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: What's some glasses called the meta? Yeah?

954
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 3: Man, hey, yeah, I mean you got you gotta watch

955
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: out for the meta glasses.

956
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, you do. So that's so you just just

957
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: be careful. Yeah they looking oh Joe Yo. Travis A.

958
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: Chan Jr.

959
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: Both your reporters on how to pronounce his last name.

960
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: They were calling him Aten at Clemsond. But it's like

961
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: Travis H. Chan Junior.

962
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 2: Take a list of what he had to say.

963
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so it growing up Travis A.

964
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: Chan.

965
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: So it was like A C, H A and e uh.

966
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: And that's how you always said Travis A.

967
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Chang.

968
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: When I went to college, I kept telling my telling

969
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 4: him my name like every day every day, every day,

970
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: and like I was like four weeks they just couldn't

971
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 4: get it. So I'm like, man, it's eat like, it's

972
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 4: how you said, it is how you said uh so,

973
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 4: and that's that's that's that's how that became. And it

974
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: kind of took off because it was easy for the

975
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: pronouncers to say I didn't have to just tell him

976
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 4: I have to correct them every day to say my name.

977
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 4: And just when I kind of just started learning more

978
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: about my last name and how it came about things

979
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: like that, he's just kind of stuck.

980
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: It made sense.

981
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 4: But uh, I'm very much open to being Travis Chan again,

982
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 4: just uh being myself. I don't have to correct people

983
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: here on how to say my name each and every day,

984
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: and I kind of love that, and uh that's just

985
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 4: uh just get get back to me.

986
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: Wait a minute. So it's not Travis at En.

987
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: Nope, it's a chaan. Because remember we had we had

988
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: a Chan from the Dolphins. All Dolphins would ask him.

989
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: I say, what's the correct pronunciation? It is like Jackie Chan, Yes,

990
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: it's a chane in the same thing I'm a ten.

991
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: It is pronounced a chan.

992
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 3: Well, how did we come about that? What's the origin,

993
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: what's the backstory on his name? Is it it for

994
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: for it to be spelled the way it is pronounced completely?

995
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: He's from New Orleans. You hear you hear the kind

996
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: of like the creole.

997
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: And when he got to Clemson, yes, they kept He

998
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: told him what it was, but they it doesn't. It

999
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: doesn't if you look at it in the way it's spelled,

1000
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't look like it's it's just say a chan.

1001
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: It looks like it should say a ten. So they

1002
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: called him Travis at En Jr. And it's stuck and

1003
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: he didn't correct them.

1004
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

1005
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Robbie Gold, Robbie Gold used to be the kicker for

1006
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: the forty nine. If they called you Robbie Good. When

1007
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: he was at Chicago, he said, you know, I know

1008
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: you guys have been calling me Robbie Goold for a while,

1009
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: but asking my nighb is Robbie Gold?

1010
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: Right? But why why he got the U in there? Then, bro,

1011
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: don't start me laughing. And that listen, that's that's pretty dope.

1012
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: That that's pretty dope.

1013
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: I like it.

1014
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: I can't wait to I'm sure to see Travis chan

1015
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: at some point, I would love to hear the backstory

1016
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: on the spelling and how you know his parents came

1017
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 3: about giving him that name.

1018
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you know, like the guy from the The Nuggets,

1019
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: it's pronounce its spelled braun b r a u n,

1020
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: but it's pronounced.

1021
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: Brown, Christian brown.

1022
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: It's spelled it looks like it should be Christian braun,

1023
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: but it's pronounced Christian brown. So sometimes spelling and pronunciation doesn't.

1024
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: Go hand in hand. No not, you know, I know

1025
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: very well because that that's spellow sinko man, that's that's

1026
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: that's that's rough for me.

1027
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: So hopefully down there in New Orleans he's from that area,

1028
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: hopefully everything will get corrected and he'll be Travis.

1029
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: But that's what uh.

1030
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: Uh, that's that's what it is, O Joe. So he's

1031
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: correcting people, he says, hopefully. He says he doesn't think

1032
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: people have a problem pronouncing his name from because he's

1033
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: from that area. They're very familiar with that. I'm surprised

1034
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: it took him what five years to get that corrected. Yeah, uh,

1035
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: normally guys, you know, hey, they get that corrected as

1036
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: soon as possible.

1037
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: It's the hair is the pronunciation.

1038
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Uh uh, I guess they started, but I guess they

1039
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: called him te because like DK is the quilling, but

1040
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: he goes by DK because it's so hard to say.

1041
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: So he's just call me.

1042
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: The quilling? What what's the case? What's the case the quilling?

1043
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: What DK is for the quilling? Metcalf?

1044
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: Okay, hey, I'm called I'm calling him that from now on,

1045
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 3: the quilling?

1046
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: Uh Abba.

1047
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: Brear wrote about the latest he's hearing on the Max

1048
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: Crosby future with the Raiders. Breer reported some of the

1049
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: fractured trust between Crosby and the Raiders was rebuilt organically

1050
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: last week when the team showed the five time pro

1051
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: bowler that it had his back and reaching out and

1052
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: offering him any help he needed after Ravers backed out. Uh,

1053
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: it won't hurt Clint kobeak effort to build a culture

1054
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: to have someone like Crosby. If Crosby buys in, and

1055
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: there's no reason to think that he won't, he has

1056
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: the potential to be what he's always wanted to be

1057
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, a flag bearer and an agent of change.

1058
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: Hey, UK, it sound good. I love the words, right,

1059
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 3: But after a situation like that and a team ships

1060
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 3: you off or let you go, and they bring you back.

1061
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: How you been in trust? Look, we don't, Oh Joe.

1062
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: Some people saying that he told him that he wanted out.

1063
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: Some people say he never said that. They got an

1064
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: offer that they couldn't refuse two first round picks. They

1065
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: traded Michael Parsons for two first round picks more time

1066
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: than there's been a lot of players traded for two

1067
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: first round picks. So it should be a badge of

1068
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: honor that somebody thought enough of you that they were

1069
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: offering two first rounders, yes, for your services. Okay, things

1070
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: didn't work out, So guess what they brought him back? Yeah,

1071
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: we're happy to have you back, Oh Joe. Behind this,

1072
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: like I said, I don't know. I mean, you hear

1073
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: a lot of things. He wanted to go, he didn't

1074
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: want to go, blah blah blah. We don't really. I

1075
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: don't really know the extent. But I know this is

1076
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: that they got him back. Yeah, And if they tried

1077
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: to trade him again, he's not getting a first When

1078
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: somebody fails you on a physical it's hard to overcome

1079
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: back that.

1080
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 3: That that sucks too, the physical part. I mean that

1081
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 3: that sucks. I'm I hope he has a speed of recovery,

1082
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 3: gets back healthy and can do what he's always done,

1083
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 3: be dominant you know, at his at his craft. I'm

1084
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: hoping Kubiak and the rest of the organization has a

1085
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: hell of a plan not only with off season free agency,

1086
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 3: but the draft as well to continue to to build,

1087
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 3: uh what they need necessary to be able to compete

1088
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: in that division, because the Broncos have gotten better, the

1089
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: Chiefs have gotten better, and at some point the the

1090
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 3: Raiders are gonna have to catch up.

1091
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, I mean it's look nobody want I

1092
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: mean being traded. It's always nice, you know. I was

1093
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: potentially traded a couple of times. It didn't happen. Almost

1094
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: got traded the Green Bay during the ninety nine season,

1095
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: ended up breaks collar.

1096
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: You I did you mean you coulda been with Brett Farr. Yeah,

1097
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 2: had I not broke my collar bone, and I would

1098
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 2: have been with Brett Farr.

1099
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: Almost got traded in the ninety five off season to

1100
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 1: Arizona for Eric Swan. Uh. The Broncos who was gonna

1101
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: give up their first round pick, which was number fifteen,

1102
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: ended up being John Mobley, myself and Mike Pritchard for

1103
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: X one that didn't go through, so and it's tough.

1104
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 2: It's like, damn, y'all really think y'all be better off

1105
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: without me?

1106
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1107
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: I just went to the Pro Bowl Lo show, you know.

1108
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1109
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: That was my fourth consecutive Pro Bowl, two times. First

1110
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: I was two time All Pro in that span. That

1111
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you're good, but we'd be better without you. Damn,

1112
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: that's what I said.

1113
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 2: See, that's what exactly, That's exactly what I said.

1114
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: It's hard, listen. I'm glad Max is happy. Obviously in

1115
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: the media, in the public, they always gonna say all

1116
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: the right things, but for sure, but that it's just

1117
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 3: you already know how dirty this business is. Yeah, for sure.

1118
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: You guys have seen how this business operates many and

1119
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: many of times. Obviously, players they do what they can

1120
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 3: to say face by saying all the right things on camera,

1121
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: but behind closed doors they know how the game goes

1122
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: and it sucks. So I'm just hoping they do right

1123
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 3: by Max and he does. You know, he due diligence

1124
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: on getting healthy and getting back to doing what he

1125
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 3: does best.

1126
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: That's the number one thing, oh Joe, is to get healthy. Yeah,

1127
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: because we know he's healthy.

1128
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 3: He hell, hey for he the fourth to deal with?

1129
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: He he's the top five edge rusher.

1130
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: You know, hey, I ain't taking nobody over Miles Garrett

1131
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: because I think Miles Garrett is the best defensive playing football.

1132
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: And yeah, I can make a case he's the top

1133
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: five player in all of football regardless of position. Obviously,

1134
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks hold a lot more valuable then a lot

1135
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: more value than any other position. But when you look

1136
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: at what Max, Max Robby, what Miles Garrett can do

1137
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: and to run tackle for loss, his pressures, he's second

1138
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: to none. But like you said, oh Joe, it's tough

1139
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: because it's almost like, oh Joe, we filed for divorce

1140
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: and then we'll come on back.

1141
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 2: Baby.

1142
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, I can't find nothing. I can't find nothing

1143
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: else out there. Hey, I can't find none us out

1144
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: car to find.

1145
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: Out you You you wouldn't, you wouldn't what he thought

1146
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: he was, but she would what you thought she would.

1147
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: So come on back and accept them.

1148
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Hey, after you can't trust after that man, So.

1149
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no no.

1150
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: But oh Joe, look at all the grades they traded

1151
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: Joe Montana.

1152
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, they.

1153
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: Cut Jerry, the cut in it. Come on, what we

1154
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 2: doing here?

1155
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: These these these new young players that that that that

1156
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: being released or being traded is beneath I could never

1157
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: You better go back and check some of the historically

1158
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: great players that have been cut and traded.

1159
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it happens. Uh, they'll need to stop.

1160
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Max crossboss Is said on this prodcast that he acted

1161
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: off the field the way he does on the field,

1162
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: he would be in prison. Crosby said, the second I

1163
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: put on my cleats and I'm across the line, I'm

1164
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: a different environment and I'm and I'm thinking about murdering

1165
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: everything in front of me. The second I'm off, I

1166
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: can turn it off just like that. And just because

1167
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: you have to. I can't be like how I'm on

1168
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: the field all the time or I be in prison.

1169
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: He's a perfect guy. He's a perfect guy.

1170
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 3: For the Yeah. I mean, listen, I said, I said

1171
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: red Hair.

1172
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he's as he would be.

1173
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: He would be like the old Oh Cho the seventies

1174
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: Raiders when they had the Tuzak and oder sits drunk

1175
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: and all those guys Ben Davidson, Jack Tatum and.

1176
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 3: All those perfect you perfect. I said it before. I mean,

1177
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: I didn't think he wanted to be there. But if

1178
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: he is, I mean, they lose a huge piece of

1179
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 3: what their identity is. Mac Crosby is the identity. He

1180
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 3: represents everything that the Raiders are and always have been.

1181
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: Yep.

1182
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: So I mean it was kind of weird, kind of

1183
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 3: weird to see him go, But I was also happy

1184
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: he went. I wasn't happy he went to the god

1185
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 3: damn Ravens, you know, But I mean, hey, listen, it

1186
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 3: is what it is.

1187
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: So if Tom Brady can change change teams, if Aaron

1188
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: Rodgers can change teams, yeah, if you think about the

1189
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: greatest players, the greatest players can change teams, what can

1190
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: Brady didn't finish your career? Peyton Manning got released? Yeah,

1191
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: y'all realize Peyton Manning got cut right.

1192
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: M VPS.

1193
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adrian Peterson, emm it Smith, it happens. It's tough,

1194
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: it really is, because it's a blow to your ego.

1195
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: Bro.

1196
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: All these all pro teams out have made all these

1197
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: all these Pro Bowls, dp O Wise and m VPS

1198
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: and you saying, you saying that you you better without.

1199
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 3: Me, ye ay. And you know what the problem is

1200
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: too with those m vps with those defensive Player of

1201
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: the Years, with those Pro Bowls, and maybe add your

1202
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 3: Super Bowls to it as well. Yes, when I want

1203
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: to get that money off the books, huh. When I

1204
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: want to get that money off the books and you

1205
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: want to make somewhere, get some cheap. Now, I might

1206
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: not get the production you bring me, but I can

1207
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: get half the production and try to make up for

1208
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 3: it in other areas.

1209
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: When they get fed up, they fed up. It's really

1210
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: that simple. O yo.

1211
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: You see it eating one hundred million, the tour depending

1212
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: too down the sixty million dollars said, nah, you're gonna

1213
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: play for somebody else. It happens the greatest, from Randy

1214
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: the t o the Jerry. You're you're top threeceivers. So

1215
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: let's say, nah, we're good. It happens, and so I

1216
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: can understand, but you know you're happy that then you

1217
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: know what they wanted me back.

1218
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: So I'm good. I'm good.

1219
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: I can I can get oh, Joe, you know what

1220
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: I can get over that? I can I can get

1221
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: over that. Yeah, they tell you it does because you

1222
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: think about what you think about what.

1223
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: You gave to Cincinnati.

1224
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: If Cincinnati, because it's like you were like, Okay, it's

1225
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: time for a change of scenery. But look at all

1226
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: what you had done to Cincinnati from the All Pros

1227
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowls. And they said, yeah, yeah, oh yo,

1228
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,479
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

1229
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: I I kind of I kind of knew it was

1230
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: coming to though, and I understood it. The funny thing

1231
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 3: about it too. Don't get you know what I was.

1232
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: I was.

1233
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: I was very wise. Actually, while I was still playing

1234
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: the game, I understood the ben inside of it, understood

1235
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 3: understood the politics that came with it, which is why

1236
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: I played the game with such joy, like a little

1237
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 3: kid that I did, because I understood the benicide and

1238
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 3: I wanted nothing to do with that now. Honestly, when

1239
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 3: obviously the trade happened, I knew it was gonna happen

1240
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: because they were drafting a new quarterback. Yeah, they were

1241
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: drafting a new receiver, and that new regime was going

1242
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: to start, and they want they wanted to start, Frest

1243
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: want to start. Yeah, everybody else was. I don't want to.

1244
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 3: I hate using the word old, but we were up

1245
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: in age. We were up in age. So I understood

1246
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: that if if I could have, I would have loved

1247
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: to let Marvin Ma listen. I take a pay cut.

1248
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: I take a pay cut. Just put me in the slot.

1249
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: Put me in the slot. I aj Green do what

1250
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 3: he do on outside. And let me let me just

1251
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 3: if I could be a one Jersey team, if I

1252
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: could do it again.

1253
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: I would stayed.

1254
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: I would. I would definitely stayed. Yeah, I didn't even

1255
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: have a choice. I didn't even have a choice. I

1256
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 3: ain't get no phone called on nothing. Uh I think

1257
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: jew rosen House hit me and say, uh yeah, they

1258
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 3: shipping your black ass off.

1259
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh Jo, I wasn't taking no.

1260
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 3: Pay cut, no hell, and let me let me see

1261
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: I WoT you.

1262
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: You have to understand I had taken I had taken left.

1263
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't getting big signing bonuses, so they was

1264
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: really all my money was against the cap.

1265
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: So I was the highest paid right hold on.

1266
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: So seven consecutive Pro Bowls and an eight year span

1267
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: with five for with five all pros, And you want.

1268
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: Me to take a pay cut because I have I got.

1269
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: Injured, Okay, I think for me, the fact that.

1270
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: I take three hundred thousand dollars pay cut, right, that's

1271
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: all I give you.

1272
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have took a pay cut simply because

1273
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: when the football seam was over and had so many

1274
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 3: moving parts in the off season, so I was still

1275
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: It was like I was damn there working year round.

1276
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: So I wasn't a trip. Whatever I take a pay cut,

1277
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: and whatever I take whatever pay is cut in I

1278
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 3: would make an off seat anyway, So I really wasn't tripping.

1279
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 3: But obviously it didn't work out that way.

1280
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: But no, but look for the best. I'm glad I

1281
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: went to Baltimore. I got a chance to win another

1282
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I wanted without the umbrella of Denver, and

1283
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: people couldn't question, well, you wasn't gonna be that good

1284
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: if you hadn't played in Denver with Lway and Shanahan.

1285
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

1286
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: I get all of that, But look, I don't care

1287
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: who my teammates were. I was very successful that I

1288
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: was a part of three super Bowl winning teams, and

1289
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: I like to think I was an integral part on

1290
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: all of those. So people gonna try to take shots

1291
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: at your old shoe. What you did, this, you did that?

1292
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: Look who you played with? Okay, what y'all want me

1293
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: to do?

1294
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: Say?

1295
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: I wish I had to play with Elway. I wish

1296
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: Mike wasn't my head coach. I don't think Brady. I

1297
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: don't know how Brady feels, you know, feels about h

1298
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: coach Belichick. But he'll never say he wished he would

1299
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: than his head coach, right, not after what they accomplished.

1300
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes you don't get along. Everybody don't

1301
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: get along. This notion that you think that everybody should

1302
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: get along, that ain't happening. Just like you don't get along.

1303
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead, O Joe. Everybody don't get along at the job. Yeah,

1304
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 1: we saw that. We saw the Lakers, Hey, Chuck, we

1305
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: contend us. Yet all I know, we the third seed,

1306
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: third seed just took down the Rockets the ninety two.

1307
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: I saw that Luca had thirty six, six and four

1308
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: Lebron we had eighteen five and five. Oust Reeves had

1309
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: fifteen three and five. Marcut smart chip there with eleven

1310
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: DA gave us eleven rebounds with seven points.

1311
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: We got team points off the bench. We can roll

1312
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: with that.

1313
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: We can roll with that for either thirty three minutes

1314
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: from a Little Lightlifted. Little Lightlifted had the highest plus

1315
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: minus of anybody on the court tonight. But Lakas are

1316
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: playing well, They're playing some good basketball. They're playing some

1317
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: good basketball. Lucas Lucas Luca. He gets off to that

1318
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: heart start. I mean, now you.

1319
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: Kind of like at his mercy what Luca had tonight

1320
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: unk thirty six six and four, thirty six six and four.

1321
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: And there are two players right now in the league

1322
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: averaging twenty five and five, Joker, Joker gets who the

1323
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: other one is?

1324
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: Are you either Shay or Shay or Luca.

1325
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: Lebron? I think there's two players? H Shake gonna win

1326
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: the MVP.

1327
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 3: Not even not even close. Huh. Even the fact, even

1328
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: with the time that he missed, he's still gonna win

1329
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 3: it out.

1330
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he ain't missed.

1331
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 1: He missed over the a lot of games, so uh,

1332
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: and Joker can only miss one more game. So if

1333
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: he missed one more game, he cool. But if he

1334
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: missed two more games, he's out of the running. Is

1335
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: out of the running. So for me, it's Shaye, it's

1336
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: uh Yoke, it's a cad, it's uh JB, And it's Luca. Yeah,

1337
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: and Wimby and Wimby in Winby. But the Lakers get

1338
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: a big win tonight. They needed this. Uh, they start

1339
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: their road trip they got they got the same team

1340
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: again Wednesday.

1341
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh, man. If I'm a head coach, I'm flying y'all

1342
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: ass back to LA.

1343
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna leave y'all down here Monday night,

1344
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: Tuesday night in Houston?

1345
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, y'all got to go. O Joe.

1346
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if you had the Super Bowl in Houston? Now,

1347
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to think about I would do. I

1348
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: would do my part a nightcap remote. I ain't showing up.

1349
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: You gonna be a You're gonna be a Houston by

1350
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: yourself if you do a bottle video conference.

1351
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 3: And if you don't show up, I ain't showing up.

1352
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: I said to be down there for oh Joe, Monday night,

1353
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night, getting up

1354
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: out of their sat oh yo for real?

1355
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 3: No, no, sir, No sir