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Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the stories we're

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Speaker 1: following today. We begin now by looking at what's happening

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Speaker 1: in the electric vehicle space. Tesla delivering more evs than

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Speaker 1: expected in the fourth quarter. However, that wasn't enough for

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Speaker 1: the company to stay ahead of its Chinese rival BYD

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Speaker 1: in global EV's sales. Here is Bloomberg's ed ludlow.

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Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter four hundred and eighty four thousand,

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Speaker 2: five hundred and seven evs delivered by Tesla. That was

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Speaker 2: ahead of estimates, and it does mean that Tesla exceeded

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Speaker 2: its target of one point eight million vehicles in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Go back to a year ago January twenty

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk said that two million units would be possible

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Speaker 2: in the full year. So they beat the one point

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Speaker 1: That is Bloomberg's ed Ludlow. So now BYD is the

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Speaker 1: new number one in EV's globally, driven mainly by the

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Speaker 1: company's much broader lineup of cheaper models in China, Incidentally,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be taking a closer look at the

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Speaker 1: Tesla story with Bloomberg's David Welsh. That's coming up. Tesla

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Speaker 1: shares were down today by just two tents one percent, Paul,

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Speaker 1: and it was.

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Speaker 3: A disappointing final quarter for another one of America's largest

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Speaker 3: electric vehicle makers, Bloomberg's Tom Busby has.

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Speaker 4: More despite ramping up production over the past year. The

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles area based electric engine vehicle maker Rivian Automotive

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Speaker 4: Source shares tumble on Tuesday after missing deliveries for the

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter only by about one hundred and forty vehicles.

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Speaker 4: Rivian makes an ev pickup truck and a sport utility

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Speaker 4: vehicle for consumers, but also a battery electric delivery van

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Speaker 4: for Amazon, the etail giant. Its biggest single shareholder, Tom

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Speaker 4: Busby Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: We moved to Apple next. The company shares were down

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Speaker 1: more than three and a half percent today, the biggest

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Speaker 1: drop we've seen since September. This is after analyst over

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Speaker 1: at Barclay said they are expecting softer demand for the iPhone,

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Speaker 1: the way, it's the first time Barclay's cut Apple to

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Speaker 1: underweight since twenty nineteen. But as Bloomberg's Man Deep Sing

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Speaker 1: tells us, don't count Apple out. As artificial intelligence gains traction.

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Speaker 5: We are going through a massive refresh cycle and cloud

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Speaker 5: companies are the major beneficiaries of that. We still don't

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Speaker 5: know when that will happen, but we.

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Speaker 3: Know it will happen. It's a matter of time.

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Speaker 5: The large anglid models, the technology, the copilots will run

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Speaker 5: on your phones, and right now there is no alternative

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Speaker 5: device except for your Apple ecosystem, whether it's your phones

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Speaker 1: That is Bloomberg's Man Deep Sing. Now it's not clear

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Speaker 1: exactly when Apple will become the big beneficiary of artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 3: Paul, the president of Havard, is stepping down. We've got

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Speaker 3: more from Bloomberg's and kites.

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Speaker 6: Clouding Gay's exit. NDS are brief and tumultuous tenure, marked

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Speaker 6: by allegations of plagiarism and a campus controversy over antisemitism

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Speaker 6: following the October seventh attack by Hamas on Israel. She

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Speaker 6: got her start in July as Harvard's first black president

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Speaker 6: recently as mid December. Since then, new questions have surfaced,

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Speaker 6: over criticism of Harvard for not speaking out after more

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Speaker 6: in Washington and Kates Bloomberg Radio, we.

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Speaker 1: Go to China next, where the Central Bank has injected

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Speaker 1: nearly fifty billion dollars into policy oriented banks as a

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Speaker 1: way of stimulating the economy. The story from Bloomberg's Juan

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Speaker 1: Wong In Hong Kong.

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Speaker 7: The fifty billion dollars worse of low cost funds is

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Speaker 7: the largest increase via the Central Bank's Pledged Supplemental Lending program.

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Speaker 7: seen as an important tool for Beijing to shore up

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Speaker 7: the property sector and stabilized growth this year. Markets have

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Speaker 7: that's hammered consumer confidence in Hong Kong. Joanne Wong, Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to Global news next, and we have

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Speaker 1: Hamas saying that Israel has killed a senior leader in Beirut.

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Speaker 8: Mattie, all right, thank you, Douglas.

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Speaker 8: The leader sale Al Arori, saying that to have been

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Speaker 8: new phase of confrontations. Hager Shanali, Greenwich Media CEO, says, actually,

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Speaker 10: that strike was specifically to hit as a Hamas leader,

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Speaker 10: in particular Salruri, who has funded and directed operations in

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Speaker 8: Attacks nationally on Bloomberg's A balance of Power. There's been

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Speaker 8: no official comment from Israel. Harvard University President Claudine Gay

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Speaker 8: before Congress in December to testify about Harvard's anti Semitism policies.

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Speaker 8: This was in December.

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Speaker 11: We embrace a commitment to free expression, even of views

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Speaker 11: that are objectionable, offensive, hateful. It's when that speech crosses

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Speaker 6: Does that speech not cost that barrier?

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Speaker 8: With congress Woman Elaine Stefanic and Bloomberg's David Weston says.

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Speaker 8: The second issue accusation of plagiarism.

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Speaker 12: About some of the work that President Gay had done

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Speaker 8: have more on this in just a few minutes. Donald

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Speaker 8: Trump has filed a lawsuit seeking to restore his name

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Speaker 8: attempt to reverse the twenty twenty election. Politically, Bloomberg's Gregory

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Speaker 14: Going on down the runway. The airplane eventually came to

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Speaker 14: wouldn't have happened if that Japanese Coastguard aircraft had hit.

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Speaker 1: We're about eleven minutes past the hour as we take

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Speaker 1: a closer look now at Tesla with Bloomberg's David Weldshe

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Speaker 1: is our Detroit bureau chief.

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Speaker 9: David.

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure. Thanks for being with us. Was

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Speaker 1: this really a surprise that Tesla kind of fell behind BYD.

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Speaker 9: Not really, Tesla's growth rates have been slowing. Still a

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Speaker 9: EV sales are not only growing faster just because the

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Speaker 9: They are heavy incentives for it. It is the EV

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Speaker 9: how right now you're going to keep growing. Tesla's relying

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Speaker 9: Again? Tesla is still growing, but the idea that they

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Speaker 9: still be better than that. With the cyber truck. That's

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Speaker 1: January first, the government issued some new rules for a

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Speaker 9: It's going to make it tougher. We sort of thought,

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Speaker 9: the Blazer and Silverado won't get the credits, but in

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Speaker 9: a few months they will. But still, we really thought

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Speaker 9: Still a lot more money to spend on some of

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Speaker 9: But the thing with Tesla is Elon Musk always promised

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Speaker 9: being priced more than they say. You know, General Motors

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the Tesla cyber truck. How does it go

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Speaker 1: head to head with Ford's F one fifty lightning that

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Speaker 5: I think you know.

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Speaker 9: GM's Silverado V is in the process of coming out

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Speaker 9: right now. I think for those buyers you're talking about,

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Speaker 9: these are two different calculations. I mean GM and the

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Speaker 9: the cyber truck really could be a competitor, But I

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Speaker 9: They're both of fashion statements in a way, very very

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Speaker 3: Is this why we didn't see cyber truck numbers included

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Speaker 9: Well, look, this is Tessa. I think we didn't see

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm