1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to America's now, Mr garbutsch Off. Tear down this wall. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Either you're with us or you were with the terrorists. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: If you've got health care already, then you can keep 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: your plan. If you're satisfied, Women, Trunk is not any 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: president of the United States, Take it to a bank. Together, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: we will make America great again. Shard. It's what you've 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton with America now 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: joined the conversation called Buck toll free at eight four 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four nine hundred two, 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice, Buck Sexton. Well, 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: these issues and so many more. We're following through in 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: our commitments, and I don't want anything to get in 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: our way. I am fighting every day for the great 14 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: people of this country. Therefore, in order to fulfill my 15 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: solemn duty to protect America and its citizens, the United 16 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: States will withdraw from the Paris Climate of Court. Thank you, 17 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: he did it. He did it. Bucks. Exit here with 18 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: you all now. President Trump has withdrawn from the Paris 19 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: Climate Agreement. And oh my, the reaction to this is 20 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: complete freak out level from the left. Uh. I have 21 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: to say, Trump attacked this thing on so many different levels, constitutional, legal, economic, competitiveness, 22 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: the ethical. He attacked it for its redistribution, He attacked 23 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: it for circumventing Congress. He attacked it for uh dishonesty 24 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: on the part of the international community. I mean, this 25 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: was one of my I will say, this is one 26 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: of my favorite Trump speeches. I will I will come 27 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: out and just just put my marker on this one 28 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: and say that I thought it was great. I am 29 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: so happy that the President went out and do this 30 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: on many levels. First of all, he cited he cited 31 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: some of the figures that I told you yesterday about 32 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: costs to the economy. He went into those numbers and 33 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: I'll give you some of those as well here in 34 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: just a few moments um. But the President established what 35 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: you could call an America first environmental policy. The President 36 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: no longer is going to be pushed into taking actions 37 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: that do not benefit the United States because the elites 38 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: in this country would rather fee fancy and good about 39 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: themselves then do what is best for this country economically 40 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: and in terms of our industrial and commercial competitiveness. It's 41 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: just this is a fascinating issue because it's one where 42 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: you see a complete divergence on the left from reality. 43 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: They are delusional on this. Earlier today, I couldn't believe it. 44 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: Uh well, I shouldn't say I couldn't believe it, but 45 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: I found it initially hard to believe. There was what 46 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: Tom Steire, who is a billionaire philanthropist, huge donor to 47 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the environmentalist groups out there. And by 48 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: the way, if you look into this, you'll see that 49 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: there are these environmentalist groups that seem like they are grassroots, 50 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: but there are entities that are set up as middlemen 51 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: to an assent launder the source of the funds for 52 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: these supposedly grassroots environmentalist concerns. So you've got some very 53 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: very wealthy people who are really just the high priests 54 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: of the religion of environmentalism and climate scaremongering of climate 55 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: change belief right, the people that are the or is 56 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: it climate disruption? Remember, they tried climate disruption for a while, 57 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: but that seemed too that that seemed to manufactures, and 58 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: now they're back to climate change. It had been global warming. 59 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: So this is a scientific movement based on facts and 60 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: numbers that don't align with what they say they will, 61 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: so they have to keep changing the name of it. 62 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: I would just I would think that's a tip off 63 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: that would seem to me to be an indicator to 64 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: which we should pay attention. But Tom Styre on his 65 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: Twitter account, who's this guy's you know, worth billions of dollars? Uh? Big? 66 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: You know Obama Administration's border. He writes, if Trump pulls 67 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: the US out of the Paris Agreement, he will be 68 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: committing a traitorous, active war against the American people. I mean, 69 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: this is the writing of a lunatic that's insane, an 70 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: act of war against the American people withdrawing from his 71 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: climate agreement. So this climate agreement was was so essential. 72 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: I should note that Obama couldn't even get around to 73 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: it until his second term. This climate agreement, that I 74 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: should also note, has no enforcement mechanisms whatsoever, This Paris Agreement. 75 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: And you have people, Uh here's another one. I mean, 76 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: the reactions to this are priceless, and they tell you 77 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: so much. You have Chris Hayes over to MSNBC on 78 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: his Twitter account, the agreement quite literally imposes nothing exclamation point, 79 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: ex nation point, exclamation point. Somebody with his own show 80 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: getting paid millions of dollars to go preach nonsense leftism 81 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: to a largely ignorant leftist audience. Uh, okay, the agreement 82 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 1: quite literally imposes nothing, So then why be a party 83 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: to that agreement? Is this just all about the symbolism. Well, 84 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: if it's symbolism and it has a cost, maybe we 85 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: should then look much more closely at what those costs are, 86 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: because the benefits to us are zero. As far as 87 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: I can tell, there's no benefit whatsoever. Even if we 88 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: had followed through on every aspect of the agreement, it 89 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: would have made a negligible change on climate. And that's 90 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: assuming that you accept all the premises from the start 91 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: of the left about the war, the models they have, 92 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: the climate models which have been wrong time and time 93 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: again in the past. Uh. You know, I always think 94 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: it's fastened to people say, well, you're not a scientist, 95 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: so you can't have an opinion on this, and then 96 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: they try out someone like Bill May who's a undergraduate 97 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: level mechanical engineer, not a scientist of climatology in any 98 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: meaningful sense whatsoever, and speaks about issues on which he 99 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: sounds like somebody who hasn't even read a one oh 100 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: one level textbook. But they said you're not a scientist, 101 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: and I always want to want to point out, first 102 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: of all, on a matter of public policy, we just 103 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: need an informed populace. It can't be well, you don't 104 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: get to have an opinion unless you have a PhD 105 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: on this, because what we see in this country increasingly 106 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: are the pH d s don't know anything about the 107 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: subjects that they have doctorates in. When we're talking about 108 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: the humanities, they are making up their own language. They 109 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: are making up their own statistics and numbers. They are 110 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: not open to rigorous intellectual debate where they're not they're 111 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: not open to true scholarship. They are just politicians in 112 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: the robes of academics. They're pushing an agenda, and in 113 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: the case of climate change, their politics sians in the 114 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: lab coats of scientists, and they are pushing an agendas. 115 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: Nothing to do with the numbers, has nothing to do 116 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: with hashtag science. This is a belief system. This is 117 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: a belief system that has immediate political implications as well. 118 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: It's a belief system for which they don't want a 119 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: separation of church and state. In fact, if you believe 120 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: in the Church of climatology, there are immediate policy follow 121 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: ons that come from that meaning that they can dictate 122 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: to you stuff about your everyday life wherever you are 123 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: right now in the country. If the climate change crowd 124 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: gets its way, they will be able to influence how 125 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: much water you use, what kind of car you drive, 126 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: how often you can drive, how much you pay to drive, 127 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: what kind of electric bulbs you can put in, how 128 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: much electricity bill is, what kind of televisions you can have, 129 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: how much water you can use on your lawn, what 130 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: kind of trash you can throw out, and just it 131 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: goes on and on and on. Never mind that just 132 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: theft that will occur through taxation in order to support 133 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: projects under the guise of greeting the planet or greening America. 134 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: But it is really just a massive wealth transfer in 135 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: the case domestically or domestically speaking, it's a wealth transfer 136 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: from the taxpayer to the government and aligned interests environmental 137 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: interests with the government, and globally speaking, from the developed 138 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: world to the developing world from you know what is 139 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: roughly Western civilization and its allies, two countries that could 140 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: use a few more factories and a lot more electricity 141 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: and a lot more carbon. Let's just be honest about it. 142 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: In fact, if you will to push people on this issue, 143 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: just say, fine, you're right, we shouldn't. We shouldn't be 144 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: allowing India to build all of these cold plants. They 145 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: do spew out all of this smog. China shouldn't have 146 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: such dirty energy facilities that are making the environment make 147 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: creating all this smog. You know what, they should have 148 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: nuclear power plants. Nuclear power. That's terrible, that's the worst order. Well, 149 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: if you want energy on a vast scale that is 150 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: efficient and that is not polluting the environment, you would 151 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: want nuclear plants. But nuclear became bad, right, Nuclear was 152 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: destroying the destroying the wet lands, or would would end 153 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: the planet, or you know whatever. You go back and 154 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: you look at the environmentalist protests and the hysteria around 155 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: nuclear plants in the seventies, eighties and the nineties. They 156 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: they abandoned that. And now what do they want? They 157 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: want want wind farms, they want solar power. Uh. This 158 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: is in a sense similar to the sustainable food movement, 159 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: whereby people in urban centers of this country or who 160 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: live around on the periphery of urban centers think that 161 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: they are wise and worthy and better people because they 162 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: get non GMO, meaning non genetically modified organism, food that 163 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: comes from nearby farms that has brought into them. And 164 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: they think, well, this is sustainable because it doesn't use chemicals, 165 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't travel large distances. But they don't realize is 166 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: that if the entire world ate the way that they did, 167 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: or tried to eat the way that they did, much 168 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: of the world would starve to death because you can't 169 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: produce vegetables and produce and uh and meat and and 170 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: you name it at the scale necessary to sustain the 171 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: billions of people on this planet if you do it 172 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: in a way that the hipsters of Manhattan and Portland 173 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: and Brooklyn and l A and you name it lie 174 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: to eat. A similar mentality is pervasive on all this 175 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: climate stuff. They don't want to do it themselves. I mean, 176 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: even the most vocal climate change alarmists don't want to 177 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: change their own lifestyles. They want to change yours. They 178 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: want to tell you what to do, they want to 179 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: force you, and they are lunatics on this issue. I mean, 180 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: there are plenty of people out there who believe that 181 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: climate change is in fact on the same plane of 182 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: depravity as holocaust denial. Climate change denial is on the 183 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: same plane as holocaust denial. That's why they say climate deniers. 184 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: You'll notice that that's not an accident, because you want 185 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: to destroy the planet. Who could be so stupid as 186 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: to believe this. This is one of the greatest cases 187 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: of mass hysteria and brainwashing in the history of the 188 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: United States. I've never seen anything like it. People who 189 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: otherwise are normal, insane on issues, who, by the way, 190 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: can't remember a word of whatever one or two years 191 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: of science they took in high school, know nothing about science, 192 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: but become indignant the moment anyone asks any questions about 193 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: the science of climate change. Become indignant when people point 194 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: out that these climate models have been wrong time and 195 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: again in the past. Want to wag a finger in 196 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: your face and perhaps even find you or throw you 197 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: in prison for the crime of questioning their so called science. 198 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: They put forth clowns like Al Gore as the spokespersons 199 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: for this, like Bill ny as the spokespersons for what 200 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: they believe is an existential struggle for the human race. 201 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: You'd think they could do better if this were so serious. 202 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: But really, ultimately it comes down to two things. The 203 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: most powerful motivating forces of the modern liberal mind self right, 204 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: business and control and climate change is the perfect merger 205 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: as an issue. It is the perfect merger of those 206 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: two very important concepts to the progressive collectivist status left. 207 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: They get to be so self righteous. They're saving the planet. 208 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: They're better than other people. They're better than those hillbillies 209 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: who don't believe in this, non in this stuff. And 210 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: they get control. They can enact endless government policies. There 211 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: is no end to government meddling when they are trying 212 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: to save the planet. With that meddling, don't you see? 213 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,479 Speaker 1: No longer can you claim states rights or even representation 214 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: in the federal government via the Congress. That doesn't really matter, 215 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: does it. We're talking about saving the human race. People. 216 00:14:54,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: They are crazy. And what's amazing to me is they 217 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: think I'm nuts. They think you're crazy. Very hard to 218 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: have a worthwhile conversation with people when they're so far 219 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: apart on it. All. Right, Well, I want to get 220 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: into the specifics of what Trump said and also some 221 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: of the most bizarre responses to this whole thing um, 222 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: which is it is a lot of sound and fury 223 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: signifying nothing, my friends. As the Bard once wrote, uh, 224 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: this is just this is crazy talk. I mean, it's 225 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: an agreement that quite literally imposes nothing. Let me just 226 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: say this about it. This Paris Climate Agreement does nothing, 227 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: but somehow means everything to democrats in this country. How 228 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: how is that someone makes sense of that one for me? 229 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: All right, all right, I've got a lot more. We 230 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: will run into a break. We'll be right back. Is 231 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: The responses on this stuff are incredible in reaction to 232 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: what President Trump did today, which was go out in 233 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: the Rose garden and just do do a cannonball into 234 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: a vat of self righteous liberal tears. And this was wow, 235 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: uh good and great, and the President made a very 236 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: reasoned case about all of this. I should note, um, 237 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: you have reactions, of course from various celebrities, because you know, 238 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: I want to get my information about incredibly complicated, incredibly 239 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: complicated issues of science and policy from people that can't 240 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: be bothered to read a newspaper. For the most part, 241 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: that sounds great, right, people who are incredibly successful largely 242 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: because they are you know, very attractive or very entertaining 243 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: or or both. Yeah, I want to take all of 244 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: my advice from them. You Leonardo DiCaprio reacting. I know 245 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Leonardo DiCaprio on the show. It's a 246 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: it's a dark day today, our planets suffered. It's more 247 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: important than ever to take action. I mean, I wonder 248 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: if he said this before he hopped in a private 249 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: jet to go hang out with a bunch of Victoria's 250 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: secret models somewhere. I mean, I'm not saying I'm I'm jealous. 251 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: Michael Moore wrote, Trump just committed a crime against humanity. 252 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: This admitted predator has now expanded his predatory acts to 253 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: the entire planet. I mean, that's Michael Moore, right, So, 254 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's just nonsense. Rosie Perez, Oh, she's still 255 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: doing stuff I see so disturbing, just dumb struck. Oh. 256 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: Andy Cohen tweeted, wow, I said wow. So I can't. 257 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: I can't fault him. It is a wow moment, but 258 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: maybe we disagree on the uh the wow why it's 259 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: a wow. Um. Also, I mentioned before, Chris Hayes, I 260 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: think this is worthwhile. You know what's gonna be fun? 261 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: He tweeted out the Great Coastal Real Estate Insurance bailout 262 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: of two. You know what's gonna even more fun when 263 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: comes along and Florida is not underwater and Malibu is 264 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: not gone. And all of these people will pretend because 265 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Internet will have existed longer at that point. See, 266 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: a lot of the climate alarm is stuff of the past. 267 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: You'd have to have hard copies. Uh, you know, you'd 268 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: have to have that. Uh. It wasn't actually a cover 269 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: of Time magazine. It was an article in Time magazine 270 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: from decades ago about the coming global cooling. And but 271 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: but it's hard to find that stuff. Of course, you 272 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: can watch al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth and it's wrong. 273 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: But these people will tell you that, well, okay, fine, 274 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: that was a massive box office success. It made al 275 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: Gore a fortune. Uh, and it was wrong, But don't 276 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: pay any attention to the fact that it's wrong. Why 277 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: Why would I? Why would I not pay attention to 278 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: the fact that it's wrong? That that to me? That 279 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: seems quite strange, doesn't it. But there won't be a 280 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: real estate insurance bailout of twenty two. There won't be 281 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: a realist data trans bail out of because the cs 282 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: are not going to rise at the level that is 283 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: said in these models. And people would say, oh, buck, 284 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: how do you know that? Uh, because they haven't when 285 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: they've said they would in the past, so why would 286 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: they now, And given the degree of uncertainty and the 287 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: variations in the proposed warming within those boundaries of uncertainty 288 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: for climate change, I'm not worried about this. But you see, 289 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: for the other side, it's not that we're debating having 290 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: we're having a discussion. Really, it's that they think climate 291 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: change people are smart. People that question climate change in 292 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: any way are stupid and bad. And that's about the 293 00:19:43,119 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: sophistication of their entire argument. But begin negotiations to re 294 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: enter either the Parish Accord or in really entirely new 295 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: transaction when terms that are fair to the United States. 296 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: It's businesses, it's workers, it's people, it's taxpayers. So we're 297 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: getting out. But we will start to negotiate and we 298 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: will see if we can make a deal that's fair. 299 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: And if we can, that's great, and if we can't, 300 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: that's fine. He's saying they're gonna they're gonna renegotiate this. 301 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: The Associated Press has already reported that France, Germany and 302 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: Italy have issued a statement saying that the Paris Climate 303 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: Accord can't be renegotiated. Yeah, very upset in Germany like 304 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: we're going to make all the good agreements happen. And 305 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: now that the Trump comes along and it's the agreement 306 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: is compute, it's finished. It's so sad in France, the heads, 307 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: the Trumps, they don't want to hear about this craziness 308 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: with if with the agreement, there's a Paris it carries 309 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: out name. I say to you, well, they wanted the 310 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: dirty air or the smog. It's and you know, anyway 311 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: you get the idea. So all these French, French and 312 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: German and Italian and you know whoever else. I mean, 313 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna get upset about this. I should note that 314 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: originally when Obama signed this thing without you know, there's 315 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: no Congress wasn't involved in this binding in well, i'll 316 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: get into how it's non binding, but it could be 317 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: combinding in a sense. And this is there's some nuance 318 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: here that I'll talk to you about in a second. 319 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: But originally they were upset about how this wasn't enough. 320 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: The the initial criticism from the climate alarmist left on 321 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: the Paris Agreement was that it didn't do anything really 322 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: and and now what you see are people complaining or 323 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say complaining. I mean they are uh apoplectic, 324 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean they are enraged. Has to love this thing 325 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: about how the world opinion. You know, we're now a 326 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: laughing stock to the world. What is that? What does 327 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: that even mean? First of all, who's First of all, 328 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: I want them to tell you what country is laughing 329 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: at us because of this name a country? That's Oh, 330 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: you think China and rougher In China and Russia are 331 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: laughing at us because we're not going to do this 332 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: foolish agreement that would hurt our economic competitives and make 333 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: us weaker and poorer and do nothing for the climate. 334 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: You think they're laughing at us because we're not going 335 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: to do this. No, uh, and do we much care 336 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: if the Europeans or I mean who, I want to 337 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: know who who's laughing that that would be a fun 338 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: experiment to play out. I'd like to know, you know 339 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: what what what country is is poking funnness over over 340 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: this one exactly we're being mocked by. I don't know Iranians, 341 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: the Bolivians, the name of country, I don't care what 342 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: what what those countries? What any countries think of US 343 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: policy in this regard? Uh and I'm amazed at how 344 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: many who work in the media and make a living 345 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: doing all of this seem to think that somehow that's 346 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: a talking point that will get them far, that that 347 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: the world opinion now is against us. Oh here, here's 348 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: right on, right on, que here's Freed Zakaria of CNN. 349 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: I believe he was the one that had didn't his 350 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: staff or No, there was plagiarism, and he was suspended 351 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: for it. But I think initially the justification for the 352 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: plagiarism was that his staff writes his editorials, not him. 353 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: But to me, isn't that even worse than plagiarism, But 354 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: at least plagiarism you do yourself. I don't know, I 355 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: don't remember. I just remember he got suspended for plagiarism. Um. 356 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: So here's what he says about this whole agreement. This 357 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: will be the day that the United States resigned as 358 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: the leader of the free world. It's it's nothing short 359 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: of that. No, it's a lot short of that. Uh, 360 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: it is way way short of of that. Um. I 361 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: look at this now and I think to myself, Wow, um, 362 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: they are claiming this. The US is no less of 363 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: an economic superpower. In fact, you could argue, I think 364 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: rightly that it's much. It will be more. I mean this, Look, 365 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: the other part of this too is this wasn't that. 366 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: It wasn't that momentous either way, at least right now. 367 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: But we'll have a little bit more money, We'll have 368 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more economic horsepower. We'll have some things 369 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: going our way now that wouldn't have perhaps before economically. 370 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: And you know Trump mentioned in the speech exactly I'm 371 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: talking about this would cost close to three trillion dollars 372 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: and lost GDP six point five million industrial job mobbs 373 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: households would have seven thousand dollars less an income on average. Um, 374 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: why do we want that? Exactly two tenths of a 375 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: degree of warming? You should? I really recommend, by the way, 376 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: for those read the Trump speech and let me know 377 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, well, you can let me know now your thoughts. 378 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: By the way, eight four four d buck eight four 379 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: four nine to eight to five phone lines open. The 380 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: Trump speech was amazing. You're gonna want to hear it. Uh, 381 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: you want to read it, watch it. It was a 382 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: very good speech I thought, well written and well delivered. 383 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: But here's what he says. Even if the Paris agreement 384 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: were implemented in full with total compliance from all nations, 385 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: it is estimated it would only produce a two tenths 386 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: of one degree celsius reduction in global temperatures by the 387 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: year twenty one. You know, if the human race can 388 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: handle two tenths of a U two tenths of a 389 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: degree of a change in temperature over the next hundred years, 390 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: we are not a very resilient species. When you look, 391 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: I should note at what the projections were for human 392 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: ability to sustain consumption at any level food, uh, oil fuel. 393 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: I mean you you look at all these projections in 394 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: the past, and the problem with the coming catastrophists when 395 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: it comes to the end of the human race or 396 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: the the the end of a modern economy, is that 397 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: they don't have a crystal ball. They can't see into 398 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: the innovations and developments of the future, and so they 399 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: extrapolate into tomorrow or I should say, a far far 400 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: off tomorrow. What is only true today, but what will change? 401 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: I recommended to you that you read Annual Jurgens the Prize, 402 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: an excellent book. And I don't know that I don't 403 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: know Mr Jurgen's politics or anything else. It's just a 404 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: very well written, readable book on the history of oil. 405 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: But everyone should be familiar with this because we are 406 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: naturally and you won't hear the climatologists that are alarmists. Uh, 407 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: you won't hear this story. But we are naturally decarbonizing 408 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: over the course of our economic, industrial, and technological progress 409 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: that's already happening and has been happening. You look at 410 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: what was a primary human source of of heat, of fuel, 411 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: of of you could say, uh, you know the economy, well, 412 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: the beginnings of a carbon based economy burning wood, right, 413 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: used to burn wood for stuff that's been around a 414 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: long time, okay, But then with the advent of machinery 415 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: and the industrial revolution, we turned to well and along 416 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: the same time, but we turned a whale oil for 417 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: a while, which I like whales, so that makes me sad. 418 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: But also we're gonna talk about not sustainable, right, We're 419 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: already to place where whales have been threatened because of well, 420 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: the hunting of whales. But whale oil is very difficult 421 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: to come by and very expensive and inefficient, and so 422 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: that's not a good way to do things on a 423 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: whole bunch of levels. But then it was coal, and 424 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: coal became the dominant for for shipping for locomotives. Coal 425 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: was the dominant source of carbon of carbon based fuel 426 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: for us. And yeah, coal produces more stuff in the 427 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: air and and is less efficient and is dirtier than 428 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: other sources of feel okay, but but we've already naturally 429 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: transition Sure, there's still coal, but we have been naturally 430 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: transitioning now for well throughout the twentieth century into oil gasoline, 431 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: and gasoline is a more efficient and cleaner fuel than 432 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: coal was, and you look at the carbon output of 433 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: it and it's less than coal. And then we've gone 434 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: from gasoline to natural gas, and increasingly we're moving towards 435 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: natural gas and liquefied natural gas, which is also cleaner 436 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: than You'll notice, we are in a continual process of 437 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: naturally decarbonizing and the market is working in this regard. 438 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: It is happening as the technology gets better, more people adopted, 439 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: as it becomes more efficient, as it makes more sense 440 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: people do it. And there's been a revolution in shale 441 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: oil in this country as well, which some people point 442 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: to and say, oh, isn't that a bad thing? Why 443 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: I say no, this this means that we have resources, 444 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: natural resources here in the United States that is of 445 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: strategic as well as economic value. You to US national security, 446 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: strategic and economic value. Yeah, and all the while, we 447 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 1: have been experimenting with and deploying in different ways renewables. 448 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: And you see the funny thing about the climate change 449 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: crazies is that I'm not opposed to renewables. You're not 450 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: opposed to renewables. I have no I'm not an anti 451 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: renewable energy big it or something. It's not like I 452 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: I see, uh, you know, I see a wind turbine 453 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: and I just hate it. No. Well, actually, wind turbines 454 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: are ugly. They do destroy natural landscapes, and they're more 455 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: or less quis and arts for migratory foul. I mean, 456 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: they just kill birds all over the place, terrible, including 457 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: some species that are protected. I should note. So those 458 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: big wind farms you see are not without their perils 459 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: for uh the you know, the the community of ornithologists 460 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: should be up in arms, the bird watchers out there 461 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: up in arms about what the as wind farms do. Um. 462 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: But it's not that I'm opposed to them on some 463 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: ethical grounds. I'm opposed to government subsidy, for which means 464 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: government taking money out of your pocket to do it. 465 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: And I'm opposed to the almost religious sanctification of renewable 466 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: energy as though it makes you a better person. And 467 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: we're trying to force this, we're trying to do a 468 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: great leap forward away from fossil fuels into renewables before 469 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: they're ready and before the market's there. It's happening. It's 470 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: just happening too slowly for some of these people. But 471 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: you see, that's why the urgency, the false urgency, becomes 472 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: so essential. That's why they have to tell you that 473 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: we're all gonna be underwater and the polar bears are 474 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: gonna drown, and there's gonna be you know, the the 475 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: hots are hot or the wets are wetter, the wind 476 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: is stronger, the wind is non existent, the her there's 477 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: more hurricanes, there's less hurricanes. It changes every year. I 478 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: should also note for those who want to get into 479 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: the hashtag science of all this, and I say hashtag 480 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: science because people write that as a social signal they 481 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: have no idea about science. I read a lot. I'm 482 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: a pretty well informed guy, as one can be just 483 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: from reading a lot. So I make distinctions and judgments 484 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: and come to conclusions based on what I like to 485 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: think is a synthesis of vast amounts of data. I'm 486 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: not a scientist, but I know when someone's lying to me. 487 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: I know when there's a problem. I am a trained 488 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: intelligence officer. I can see the lie. I know what 489 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: people are trying to pull something. And for example, just 490 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: just to look at one aspect of science and another, 491 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: people will say things. Now you'll see this on social media, 492 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: Oh well, there's doubts about gravity to First of all, no, 493 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: there really aren't doubts about gravity. But also the expressed 494 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: uncertainty as a percentage in climate models would not be acceptable. 495 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: And say a pharmaceutical trial, right, you couldn't say, I'm 496 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: like fi certain that this will only have a negative effect, 497 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: that this will only possibly have a fatal effect on 498 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: like one in a hundred people. That wouldn't be okay. 499 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: You need to have a data set that is provable, 500 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: that is share able, and that is redoable in a 501 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: sense where you can replicate the experiment that gave you 502 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: those initial numbers. You share that data widely. It is 503 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: subject to also, I should note people challenging it as 504 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: well as being responsible for being wrong. You see, if 505 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: you say that this drug cures heart disease, and in 506 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: fact it exacerbates heart disease, they're gonna sue you. You 507 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: are held responsible for that in science. But if you 508 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: say that the climate is going to be five degrees 509 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: warmer in ten years or whatever, two degrees warmer in 510 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: twenty years, and twenty years passes and it's point zero 511 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: one degrees warmer, you know what they say. It's just 512 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: a question of when the warming really heats up. We 513 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: might have been off before, but now we're going to 514 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: be right. Trust us. Why would I do that? All Right, 515 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: A lot of you want to talk about this. We're 516 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: gonna hit some calls and talk more about this. Stay 517 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: with me. Team Trump has pulled out of Obama's Paris 518 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: climate change agreement. A momentous day for Trump is am 519 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: my friends, We'll be right back him. In North Carolina. 520 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: W P T I, Jim, you got some good stuff 521 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: for me? I'm sure. What's up? Hey Buck? How are you? 522 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm good man? How are you? I'm doing good. I 523 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: just listened to the climate change talk here, and I've 524 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: lived in North Carolina my entire life. In nine nine, 525 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: I was in college here in North Carolina, and there 526 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: was a crisis that we had to deal with here 527 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: um and and it was involving the moving of the 528 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: Cape Hatteras Lighthouse. We were told, and I was on 529 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: campus at the time. It was a big fury. It 530 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: was it was a crisis. It was hysterical. We had 531 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: to move that thing because the rising ocean levels due 532 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: to the climate change, we're gonna swallow that lighthouse up 533 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: and it was gonna be gonna be gone. So in 534 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: that lighthouse was moved at the cost of millions and 535 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. They had engineers come up here and 536 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: used the same system that they used to move the 537 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: Space Shuttle out of the hangar to the launch pad, 538 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 1: moved that thing. And here's the point. By vacation there 539 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: every other summer. I'm going down there next month on 540 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: vacation again. The original site is still dry. It's still there. 541 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: It's marked with the boundary and the small sign, and 542 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: I have never as far as I can see, the 543 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: ocean is still the same distance away from that original 544 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: site as it as it was thirty years again, we're 545 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: talking thirty years now, and the site, the original site 546 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: is still dry. But it was a crisis. We had 547 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: to deal with it and deal with it quickly. And 548 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: I can't remember the break down on the on the 549 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: feet on the public funds versus the private funds that 550 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: moved that thing. But if you look it up, it 551 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: was done and that and that's to be a perfect 552 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: example of what we're dealing with here. Look, if you 553 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: go back and you read about, uh, you read about 554 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: Thomas Robert Malthus, who was an English scholar theoretician from 555 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: the late eighteenth into the nineteenth century, he was he 556 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: was right in a sense when he wrote his essay 557 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: on the Principle of population. I mean he's right that, uh, 558 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: at some point, you know, people are they're not going 559 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: to be able to sustain the population because there's not 560 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: gonna be enough food. We can't create enough food for 561 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: those people. He was right the day that he wrote that. 562 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: But he was wrong, of course, because populations got a 563 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: lot bigger, But so did our ability to make food. So, 564 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a Malthusian fallacy we see in 565 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: climate changing. By the way, if you're at a cocktail party, 566 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: you're hanging out with some friends having a beer and 567 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: some barbecue out back. Just dropped that one in the 568 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: conversation malenthusisa in fallacy Jim, and everyone's gonna be like, oh, 569 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: what's up? Jim has been paying attention? Yeah, you know 570 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, I mean I appreciate what you do. 571 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: I listened to you every night going on from work 572 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: and just keep fighting. I will brother, thank you so much. 573 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate you listening. It means a lot. So shields 574 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: high and thank you for calling in. Uh, those of 575 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: you who are on hold, please do I know people 576 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: get in whenever you go to break the line. Sometimes 577 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: just go dark. People don't like to wait. I've I've 578 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: got to go into a network break here in a minute. 579 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: But if you're on hold, I will take you at 580 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: the top of the hour, coming up here in a 581 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: few minutes because I do want to get voices in. 582 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: So lines are litting out. Let's if they stay that 583 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: way through our next break, I would talk. I want 584 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: to give you a little more of the specifics. Why 585 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: did Trump say this wasn't a good idea instead? Yeah, 586 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 1: it's fun to point out the hysterics of the left, 587 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: and you know this is an active war. This is 588 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: a crime against humanity. I mean, come on, people get 589 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: a grip, but also I think it's important on a 590 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: policy level. Understand why Trump doesn't like this. You see, 591 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: it is not, in fact the case that I sit 592 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: here saying that I think this agreement is worthless because 593 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: I want the planet to overheat and future generations to 594 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, to all die or whatever's supposed to 595 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: happen if the climate thing that they're worried about happens. Um, 596 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: I just think that they're wrong. It's not that I 597 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: want the world to end. We'll be right back. I 598 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: left out the best line. Welcome back, team Buck. I 599 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: left out the best line from Trump's speech pulling out 600 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: of the climate agreement, the Paris Climate Agreement. He said, 601 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris. Boom. 602 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. Good stuff from the president. 603 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, yeah, we've got a bunch of calls up. 604 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: Let's do some callers here. Thank you so much for 605 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: lighting up the Freedom Hunt lines. Austin in New York. 606 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: What's up, my friend? How are you doing? I'm good. 607 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling him. What's in your mind? Um? Well, first, 608 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: I want to start off just saying I've been listening 609 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: to your show for about four months and a really 610 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: big fan. I think you are probably the best conservative 611 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: radio hosts out there. I'm in my early twenties and 612 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: there's really you seem to really be able to relate 613 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: to younger people, and I think that's something that's been 614 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: missing a lot for for young conservatives. Appreciate that. I'm 615 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: humbled and I appreciate that. Yeah, And I mean as 616 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: a I'm only twenty three years old, I'm I'm a 617 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: Trump supporter, even though I don't I don't agree with 618 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: everything he does or everything he says, but I do 619 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: support him because I think he really is trying to 620 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: help the country. Um. But one thing, just as a 621 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: young person that I'm scared of, it's just, you know, 622 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: we have we have all the terrorism going on, we 623 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: have the debt, and our economy is just been so 624 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: terrible the last eight years. And yet like oh we're 625 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 1: ever talking about is Russia and global warming or whatever 626 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: whatever Trump did or didn't do. Um. But one thing 627 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: is just what's going to happen if if he isn't 628 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: able to you know, fix the economy and if he 629 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: loses I mean, what a couple of things as the 630 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: one is I agree that we spend so much time 631 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: on what doesn't matter in the national conversation that is 632 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: driven by media coverage. Right, I mean, what what I 633 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: don't know what your job is, but whatever you do, 634 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's it's not too gather information to share 635 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: with the public in the form of news. Although maybe 636 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're working the news, but okay, right, 637 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: so you know that that's at a certain level, the 638 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: media hasn't as a responsibility professional and ethical to inform 639 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: the American public about what's going on, but instead what 640 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: we get our you know, breaking news. Somebody said something 641 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: about somebody who knew somebody who once talked to Trump 642 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: about Russia. You know, I mean, this is not affecting us. 643 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: You know. You said you're in your twenties. I'm in 644 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: my thirties. We are the first generation in the post 645 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: World War two era that UH is going to be 646 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: less well off than our parents. We are the generation 647 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: where the decades of social engineering via these massive entitlement 648 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: programs UH might come to a crashing halt. Right when 649 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the music will stop, When all 650 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we won't be able to meet our obligations, 651 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: and they'll be massive financial implications for us where we'll 652 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: face either a reality where we have to pay dramatically 653 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: the higher taxes deal with uh much less economic growth 654 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: and prosperity, have much longer UH working careers well into 655 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: our seventies or eighties, maybe even our nineties. Uh. Those 656 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 1: are all things that I would like the policy community 657 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: right now to be's spending time on right how to 658 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: make healthcare cheaper, more affordable, and better, not just say 659 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: that it will be. But instead what we get Austin 660 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: is a lot of stuff about Russia and oh my gosh, 661 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: the climate. Yeah, I know, it's it's crazy. Man. Well look, 662 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: it's awesome to have people at your you know that 663 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 1: that are that are millennials. I'm a gray beard millennia. 664 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: I think I just aged out of being millennial. I 665 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: know people say that a millennial is born a certain time. 666 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm barely millennial. It's great to have a fellow conservative 667 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: millennial on the air. Thank you for calling him my friend. 668 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Uh, Doug in Alabama w BUV want 669 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: only bu w BUV. Great to have you, sir, Hey Bud, 670 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm good man? Thank you for calling him. 671 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: What's up? Oh, I don't know if you're from you're 672 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 1: with Charles Spurgeon. I'm not my head now. Uh. Anyway, 673 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: he was he was a preacher, uh back in the 674 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds in England, and he had a sermon on 675 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: uh sermon other seasons, that's what it was cold and 676 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 1: his text was taken from UH. If I may read 677 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: a verse out of Genesis, while the earth remained the seed, 678 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: time and harvest, and cold and heat in summer and winter, 679 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: and day and night shall not cease. I don't care 680 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: what the left says. I don't care how much they 681 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: scream and kick and hollered. The skies falling, the skies falling, 682 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: the water is rising, It's not gonna happen. There there 683 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,959 Speaker 1: lunatics basically lunatics. Well, this is a this for them, 684 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: and and Doug. I say this with all respect to 685 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 1: my fellow fellow Christian, and that I know that bringing 686 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: this up, you know, it makes it sound like I'm 687 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: equating them, and I'm not. But they think that they are. 688 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: This is a religious belief for people who think they're 689 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: too smart for religion, that people that believe deeply in climatology, 690 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: tend not to believe in, uh, certainly to believe in 691 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: in in Christianity, don't believe in Jesus, don't believe in 692 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: in the Bible. Overwhelmingly, they view themselves as above what 693 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: they think of as as superstitions. Meanwhile, they attach all 694 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: of what one would think of as as religious significance 695 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: to this climate change stuff. Right. They have they have indulgences, 696 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: which is the carbon based tax credits that they want 697 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: to set up right so people can buy the right 698 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: to pollute more. Uh, they have as an end of 699 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: time story. If we don't do this, the world is 700 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: going to end. I mean, there are so many parallels 701 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: with religious belief. But their religious belief is based on 702 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: you using the right kind of lightbulb and riding a 703 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: bise called to work, not police, but not on the 704 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: words of Jesus Christ. And you know what I mean. 705 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: That's this is what they don't utter. This is what 706 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 1: they don't see. Yeah, no, look, I I hear you. 707 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: And and one other one of the thing in all 708 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: their all intelligence in the book of Daniel. And I'm paraprasing. 709 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm not quoting it word for word, but but he writes. 710 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: He says, man will become so smart that they become stupid. Well, 711 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: that's certainly the case on college campuses and with the 712 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: media across the country. Doug, thank you for calling it 713 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 1: from Alabama. Great to have you on, sir, our friend 714 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: Charles Cook over Nashuralville, I wanted to get this in. 715 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: Makes a very important point on on nashuralviewe dot com 716 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: Um and I will read it and it will not 717 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 1: be as awesome as if Charles are reading it because 718 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: of his unfair, unfair British accent advantage between him and 719 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: Tom Rogan. I don't, I don't know. I don't. I 720 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: don't know who attracts ladies more easily in the pub 721 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: just by reciting a few verses. But uh, Tom Rogan 722 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: and Charles Cook both and writers from National Review. They 723 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: both got those cool accents. But here's what Charles writes 724 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: over National Review. For far too many environmentalists disagreement with 725 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: their coveted remedies or even their non binding accords, which 726 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: is what this is. The Paris Agreement is akin to 727 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: denial of the ailment per se. Thus to oppose, say, 728 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: a carbon tax, is to be accused of hating science. 729 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: To dislike the Paris Accord is to be pro coal 730 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: and to propose that we are just as likely to 731 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: lower emissions sustainably by our by replacing traditional methods of 732 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: energy procurement with fracking or nuclear power as to give 733 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: carte blanche to Tom Steyer is to be a wanna 734 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: be killer of Indonesian kids. Exactly totally right from from 735 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: Charles Cook there. If you even propose a less radical 736 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: solution than what they say, if you even say I 737 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: agree with all of your underlying premises, I just think 738 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: we should approach it this way. It's as though they 739 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: are members of the Polite Borrow and they have their 740 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: orders from Stalin, and those are the only orders, the 741 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: only approaches that can be allowed, the only solutions to 742 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: the problem. And to even question, never mind to come 743 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: up with other solutions, is to be a traitor and 744 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: to be a counter revolutionary, to be dangerous, and to 745 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: be dealt with as such. That is modern climate hysteria 746 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: for you, my friends. UM, anyway, we're not gonna talk 747 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: only about this today. I'm also going to talk to 748 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: you a bit about Putin what he said today, terrorism 749 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: and jihad in the Philippines, I'm gonna do a deep 750 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: dive on that, plus some complete madness going on in 751 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: the college campus that I don't think you've heard about yet. 752 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: We'll hit that a more coming up back right after 753 00:47:41,280 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: this break. Team stay with Russia looms so large, my friends, Russia, Russia, Russia. 754 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: That's what we hear about all the time. I love 755 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 1: the Huntred October really holds up. It's a great movie. Um. 756 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 1: You had Vladimir Putin earlier today saying some stuff that has, 757 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: let's just say, caught the attention of the media in 758 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: this country. People are wondering what exactly the premier of 759 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: Russia is getting at here. Here's what he said in 760 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: the Russia. And of course, person, you're like, bug, why 761 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: are you playing that random Russian stuff for me? I 762 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: just wanted to give you the authentic feel of Putin 763 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: talking to a bunch of reporters about some stuff. And 764 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: here's what he's Here's what he's saying. He says that 765 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: hackers are free people, just like artists who wake up 766 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: in the morning in a good mood and start painting. 767 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: And then he goes on to say that likewise, hackers 768 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: get up in the morning and read the news about 769 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 1: international affairs. If they feel patriotic, they try to make 770 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 1: what they see as a fair contribution to the struggle 771 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: against those who speak ill of Russia. Is that possible yes, theoretically. 772 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: What's most important, and this is my deep belief, hackers 773 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: can't crucially influence an election in a foreign country. No 774 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: information will change the minds of a foreign people and 775 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: the outcome of an election. So that's my answer. The 776 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: Russian government is not supporting hackers at any level and 777 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: doesn't plan to. So of course this doesn't in any 778 00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: way quiet those who believe that there's a massive conspiracy underway, 779 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: Um that the Russians using hackers, of course in unofficial ways, 780 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: but using hackers nonetheless had a hand in turning the 781 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: election for Donald Trump by getting into Podesta and the 782 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: d n C emails that you know, you all, you 783 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: all know that I don't need to go over this, 784 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: but I do think that this newest element added into it, 785 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: that the Russian Russian president is out there saying, um 786 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,799 Speaker 1: that Vontimur Putin is saying that patriotically minded Russians might 787 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: have been involved in cyber attacks. This is of course 788 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: going to just add fuel to the fire of those 789 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: who believe all along that this was Russia's intent, that 790 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: Russia colluded, that Russia was the reason that Hillary Clinton 791 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: lost the election. But you see, this is why the 792 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: the stories about fake news and all all the other 793 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: stuff that's current getting so much attention. Uh, we'll never 794 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: have resolution of it. Let me walk you through where 795 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: this goes. You've got Putin saying stuff about how, you know, 796 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't want there to be or how he doesn't 797 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: believe that there's any connection between the Russian government and hackers. 798 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 1: You could claim at somebody below Putin's level ordered it, right, 799 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: I think that's unlikely. I'm just theoretically here, Okay, I'm 800 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm gonna do what MSNBC and CNN does. 801 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm just asking questions. But theoretically, somebody below Putin's level 802 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: may have come up with the plan to influence the election. Now, 803 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: maybe they just somebody who's like, uh, you know, number 804 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: ten on the list of power at the Kremlin just 805 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: hates Hillary. You know who knows? I know, Donald Trump. 806 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: For a while I was saying it could be some 807 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: four pound guy sitting in his mom's basement or something. 808 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: I think that's very unlikely. Um, but Putin is at 809 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: least opening up the possibility now to yes, there were 810 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: Russians who were hacking out whether whether that will go 811 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,839 Speaker 1: anywhere or not. I mean, you already have most Democrats 812 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: who not only believe that there's this intelligence assessment that 813 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: is universal that says that Russia hacked the election, um, 814 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: which it says that there was a Russian effort to 815 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: influence the election. But there's a lot of influencing of 816 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: the election, right. There are multibillion dollar election campaigns under way, 817 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: There's a vast US media that takes part in all 818 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 1: of this. We think some Russian propaganda effort is gonna 819 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: make any noise at all. I mean, this is I 820 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: think it's just so far fetched still, but we we 821 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: never get answers. And this goes into the fake news 822 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: part of all of this. Have you seen that in 823 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: Tollens Community report? Now? I haven't. And by the way, 824 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: this is the favorite tool of conspiracy theorists because at 825 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: some level, to be informed, you have to trust those 826 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 1: who are informing you. Right when I giving you information 827 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: about say yesterday, Afghanistan, Yeah, okay, I spent considerable time 828 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. But even when I was in Afghanistan, I 829 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: was having to read reports from people elsewhere in the country. Right, 830 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: do you have to rely on information flow from others 831 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 1: to be informed? You can't be everywhere, and it can't 832 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: be a way to shut down discussion to say, oh, well, 833 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: you weren't there, man, you didn't see it. Okay, that 834 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: may well be true, but that doesn't mean that the 835 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 1: opinion is invalid and that you can't have a very 836 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 1: good understanding what's happening in happening in a place, if 837 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: you have good sourcing there, if if media outlets are 838 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: painting the proper picture, you can really have a good 839 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: sense of what's going on in any number of countries 840 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 1: and places. So, but how this applies to Russia and 841 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: hacking and cyber hacking is that if you don't uh, 842 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 1: if you you don't believe the news outlets, then you 843 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: obviously never come to any conclusion on this because so 844 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: much of it has been their analysis, right, so much 845 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 1: of this and also they're they're anonymous sources, and they 846 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: don't even have the capability to look at hacking. Let's 847 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: say what Putin said today in this press conference in St. Petersburg. 848 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: Let's say that it does become accepted that there were Russians, 849 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: that everyone agrees at some point in the future, which 850 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: I don't even know this will ever happen, that Russians 851 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: were hacking, and that this was their plan all along. 852 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: You'll have to take someone's word for that. I don't 853 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: have the forensic ability, uh, nor the time or the 854 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 1: inclination to try and go through all the digital code. 855 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't even know where to start. I 856 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: have no idea how one would go about figuring out 857 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: if the Russians hacking. Plus I don't even know legally 858 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 1: how I could conduct that investigation on my own if 859 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to. So you see what I'm saying. You 860 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 1: have to trust the reporting of others at some level 861 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: on this or not. And even if Russian hackers that 862 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,399 Speaker 1: becomes a universally accepted story here, and I think it's 863 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: pretty close to that. But there are still many I 864 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: know who don't buy into the Russian hacking theory at all, 865 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: not that the Russians hacked the election, but that they 866 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: were Russian hackers trying to get into email accounts in 867 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: this country and do bad things to help Trump or 868 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: just to mess up our election or whatever. Um. But 869 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,959 Speaker 1: then you'll never be able to prove unless you have 870 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: some level of access that I can't imagine that the 871 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: Russian state that Vladimir Putin was involved in it, and 872 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,439 Speaker 1: Putent's out there saying even if you could prove that, 873 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: even if theoretically the president of the United States, or 874 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 1: let's say that the head of the intelligence community, which 875 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: is technically the d n I. Oh, though really the 876 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: CIA director tends to tends to run stuff a lot 877 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,439 Speaker 1: of time. But anyway, let's say the Director of National 878 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: Intelligence shows a report to the American people that somehow 879 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 1: proves uh and and shows the work to which they 880 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: would never do, they would never expose the sources and methods, 881 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 1: but somehow proves that there's some Russian tie into the hacking, 882 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,919 Speaker 1: and maybe even some Russian official told somebody that, yeah, 883 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: we were behind this. And you know, even presenting all 884 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 1: of that evidence, there would be many who would say 885 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 1: that this is all part of the conspiracy, that this 886 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: is this has been faked, that there are ways to 887 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: hide or even misdirect with your cyber trail, that there 888 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 1: are ways to make it seem like Russian hackers were 889 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 1: the ones when it could have been you know others. 890 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 1: It could have been North Korean hackers, or Ronny and hackers, 891 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: or hackers in you know, Brazil or who knows where, anywhere, 892 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: pick a country doesn't matter. So this never gets completely solved. 893 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: The only way that you can really end this discussion 894 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: is to be somebody who just comes to the conclusion, 895 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: which I've come to a long time ago, that the 896 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: hacking didn't really matter, that hacking is a fact of 897 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: modern life, that it happens to private companies, to governments, 898 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: and we shouldn't attribute this incredible power to Russian cyber activities, 899 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: uh and suggest that they would be able to throw 900 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: a US election. UM. That that's giving them way too 901 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: much credit, that's giving them way too much um power. 902 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: And I just refused to think that that's what's the 903 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: what's the reality here? So I just thought it was 904 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 1: interesting putin saying, you know, yeah, I mean maybe there 905 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: are some Russian I mean, maybe there are some Russian hackers. 906 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 1: The movie you don't know, maybe you don't look this 907 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 1: guy is hacking. It doesn't like what you say about rosso. 908 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: You know, you go from there, you know, me in 909 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: my front uh. So there we have it, latest from 910 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: Putin from the Putin's mouth. If you will get a 911 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 1: hit a quick break, your team will be right. Now. 912 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk about jihad in the Philippines. Now, this has 913 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 1: gotten some attention in the last few days because a city, Marawi, 914 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: UH in the Philippines was well partially overrun by matte 915 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: and Abusai f rebels. I'll get into these groups in 916 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 1: a moment, but there is a long standing UH Muslim 917 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: extremist insurgency in the Philippines, and it really splinters into 918 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: on the one hand, a separatist faction. On the other hand, 919 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 1: a g hottest Global GI hottest faction along the lines 920 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: of al Qaeda. But before I get too far into 921 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: those details, a couple of notes on the news almost 922 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: happening right now. There were reports of a terror Earlier, 923 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: reports of what seemed to be an apparent terrorist attack 924 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: UH in Manila, the capital city of the Philippines, at 925 00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: a well known resort complex full of shops, stores that 926 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: are frequented by international travelers, by Westerners, by Americans. Latest 927 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: reporting on that is that it was a robbery attempt 928 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: and that's why there was gunfire. It was not in 929 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: fact a terrorist act. But Marawi. Um, what's been going 930 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: on in Marawi is in fact an extension of long 931 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: standing UH tensions between the Muslim minority in the southern 932 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: Philippines and the rest of the country. Backstory here is 933 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: totally necessary. So I suppose we're in the midst of 934 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 1: it on the spot deep dive before I can get 935 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: into why there's fighting going on in the Philippines, important 936 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 1: to know how we got to this point. Now, the 937 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: Philippines is about ninety million people lived there and only 938 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: about five percent of the country is Muslim. So when 939 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: you when you look at this, you think yourself, this 940 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: is an example of a small Muslim insurgency and a 941 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 1: much larger Christian country. Um, this is a function of colonialism. UH. 942 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:10,919 Speaker 1: The Philippines named for King Philip of Spain were colonized. 943 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: The Philippines were were colonized and in the sixteenth century 944 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: by the Spanish. And so that's how you have a 945 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: country that's in Southeast Asia that's predominantly Catholic in fact, 946 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:31,919 Speaker 1: and went through centuries of a period of prostaalization and conversion. 947 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: But there had always been in the South, in places 948 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: like Mcguinndno and Sulu, UH and Minda now UH, places 949 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 1: that had a Muslim majority population. Now the Philippines are archipelago, 950 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 1: it's a series of islands. So on some of the 951 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 1: islands there were Muslim there were Muslims that had been 952 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: living there for quite some time, in fact, before the 953 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Spanish got to them. Uh. You know, the Sultanate of Sulu, 954 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: for example, UM stretches all the way back to an 955 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: Arab trader in the late four century. So through the 956 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: expansion of Islam through through traders, there was actually contact 957 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: with the Philippines before you had the uh Spanish colonial 958 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: takeover of the Philippines. And of course we took the 959 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Philippines from the Spanish at the turn of the twenty century. So, 960 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 1: and which also, by the way, resulted in what's known 961 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: as the Moro War. And the Moro War is a reference. 962 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 1: So the Moral War is the US in the early 963 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 1: part of the twentieth century suppressing a Muslim insurgency in 964 01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: the Philippines after we had taken the Philippines from the 965 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Spanish and the Spanish American War UM. So you know, 966 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: the Philippines was under American rule from eight or so 967 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 1: until nineteen forty six, and during that period of time 968 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 1: there were hostilities. People have referred to it as the 969 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: Morol War, and this is a very interesting connection, I 970 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 1: think just linguistically, uh Morow is what the Spanish Philippine 971 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: colonial subjects referred to that that's what they call the Muslims, 972 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: and it is a reference to the Moors or the 973 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: Moros who invaded Spain, who invaded the Iberian Peninsula and 974 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: were eventually uh pushed out during the Reconquista in fourteen 975 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 1: nine two. But you will recall from the Muslim expansion 976 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: into Europe that that the forces of Islam made their 977 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 1: way all the way up into what they called and Susia, 978 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: which is modern Spain in the Iberian Peninsula, and they 979 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 1: held it for centuries, and it wasn't until that finally 980 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the Spanish were able to take back that land. So 981 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: they referred to them then as the Moors or Moros, 982 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: and Muslims in the Philippines by the Spanish colonial authorities 983 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: and and by Spaniards in the Philippines were called Moros. 984 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: And so some referred to the US fight there as 985 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: the Morrow War um And there's actually a book about 986 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: the Morow Rebelli or people call the Moro Rebellion UM 987 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 1: as well, and that's again a reference to ethnic Muslims 988 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 1: living in the Philippines. So there's a long standing tradition 989 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: of UH, let's say, difficult relations between this small Muslim 990 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: minority the Philippines in the south relegated really to a 991 01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 1: few main islands UH and the rest of the Philippine archipelago. 992 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: So in the twentieth century, though, that's where we get 993 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 1: into how does this turn into how does this become 994 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: a place where we're talking about jihad all of a sudden, Well, 995 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 1: you have separatist inclinations for parts of the southern Philippines 996 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: that had wanted to be Muslim enclaves if you will, 997 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: salt in it's or emirates for a long time, as 998 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: they had been at one point in the past. Um. Oh. 999 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: By the way, as an aside, we from the Moral 1000 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: Rebellion or the Moro War, we get words like a mock, 1001 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 1: like running amuck. Also, boon docks is a term that 1002 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 1: comes from from the Philippines, So we have some words 1003 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 1: that came along as a result of that. There there's 1004 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 1: also a story out there that the forty five caliber 1005 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: side arm um was introduced in the American military and 1006 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: widespread use during the Moral Rebellion. But I looked into 1007 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: that more They're already were forty five that were in 1008 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: some circulation, but because of the tactic of attacking in 1009 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 1: dense jungle with machetes that some of the more rebellion 1010 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 1: fighters would engage in, they wanted something heavier for more 1011 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: stoppage power than a nine millimeter. But it it didn't 1012 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 1: get completely developed. The forty five caliber Hagen wasn't developed 1013 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 1: entirely because of the more rebellion. It just became it 1014 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 1: came into wider usage as a side arm, at least 1015 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 1: that's from from my read of it. That's what I 1016 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,919 Speaker 1: believe the progression was. So okay, So back to now 1017 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 1: the jihadism and terrorism and how that affects the Philippines 1018 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: and why do we have cities now that are being 1019 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 1: either overrun or at least threatened with being overrun in 1020 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 1: a country that, keep in mind, is a is a U. 1021 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 1: S Ally Christian majority nation, has very good relations with 1022 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: the United States UM and we of course gave the 1023 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 1: Philippines its independence six so it's been quite a while. 1024 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 1: They have a couple of major Islamic fundamentalist or Jie Hottist. 1025 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Well it it's as long a fundamentalist groups. Let's not 1026 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: say gi hottest per se, both of of of whom 1027 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 1: have engaged in terrorist attacks on the one hand, and 1028 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 1: the terrorist attacks that you would think you would think of, bombings, executions, kidnappings, um, 1029 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,919 Speaker 1: there have been a number in recent decades of very 1030 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: serious terrorists terrorist attacks in the Philippines. The two groups 1031 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 1: are generally speaking, and there's a lot of offshoots and factions, 1032 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 1: and I mean, I could do a three hour show, 1033 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: but you probably will want to hear three hours on 1034 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 1: this on just all the different aspects of Islamic extremism 1035 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: in the Philippines, which is again what we're talking about now, 1036 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 1: because there's some ongoing fighting. There's been a hundred killed 1037 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 1: in the fight over Morale, a hundred plus killed. You've 1038 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: got people that are trapped there, you've got the military 1039 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: moving in. So the extremist groups are the Moro Islamic 1040 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: Liberation Front, which is more of a separatist a classic 1041 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 1: separatist insurgency. And you have Abu Saif, which is Father, 1042 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: which means father of the sword in Arabic, which is 1043 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: a a more j hottest Al Qaeda like entity. So 1044 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: the Moro Islamic Liberation Front has been fighting for for 1045 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: decades in the Philippines, trying to establish a separate enclave, 1046 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 1: a separate state that will be entirely UH controlled by Muslims. 1047 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: So that's that's been in existence for for a while now. 1048 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: And again Moro, because of the Muslim minority in the Philippines, 1049 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 1: is referred to as Morrow UH. They want a liberation front. 1050 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: This is a reminder, it's really a throwback to the 1051 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: old days of these Marxist separatist groups that just wanted 1052 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: autonomy for one ethnic or religious, ethnic, religious or other 1053 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 1: minority group in a country and engaged in violence. Right, 1054 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 1: that's the old terrorism UM. But that's mostly been what 1055 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 1: the MILF as it is known, the MOROW that is 1056 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,960 Speaker 1: what it is called, the Morow Islamic Liberation Front has 1057 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 1: been trying to do UM and they reached in recent 1058 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 1: years a deal with the government. So so they're the 1059 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: insurgency group that will use terrorism. They fall in that 1060 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,520 Speaker 1: category of insertaincy group that will use terrorism, but will 1061 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 1: UH will also negotiate with the government as legitimate and 1062 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 1: has a list of demands, so they're in a in 1063 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,879 Speaker 1: a different they're more of an ethnic nationalist or religious 1064 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 1: nationalist separatist group. Um. Then you get into Abu Saif 1065 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 1: and UH Malte, which is a the group right now 1066 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,640 Speaker 1: that's fighting in morale in the Philippines has connections to 1067 01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: and they believe fights alongside ABUSA. It's not in higherly clear. Look, 1068 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:06,000 Speaker 1: the reporting on all this from the Philippines is not 1069 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 1: is not exacting. I mean, they don't have the best 1070 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 1: in resources for journalists and coverage. You're talking about a 1071 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 1: tremendous variety of islands. Some are very disconnected from what's 1072 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 1: going on in the capital and Manila and feel very 1073 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:27,960 Speaker 1: decentralized from government authority to begin with. So getting granular 1074 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 1: data and information on these different Muslim extremist groups on 1075 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 1: the Philippines is hard to It's hard to come by, 1076 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 1: and of course there's also a lot of bluster and 1077 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 1: there are a lot of UH people that are trying 1078 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: to make these groups seem perhaps more connected than they are, 1079 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: make them seem like they are part of the global jihad. 1080 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,520 Speaker 1: That's where we get into Abu Saif and possible connections 1081 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 1: to the Islamic States. So there's longstanding tensions fighting between 1082 01:09:55,160 --> 01:10:00,680 Speaker 1: the Moro Muslim minority in the Philippines and well uh 1083 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: Spanish colonial government and the American colonial government then against 1084 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 1: the Japanese when they seize the Philippine islands. Uh So 1085 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,200 Speaker 1: there has been long standing fighting, but there have also 1086 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 1: been in roads made by Jee hottest entities. In fact, 1087 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Abu Saif, as I said, Father of the Sword, is 1088 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 1: a terrorist group that operates in the Philippines and the 1089 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 1: southern portion of the Philippines where there's um Muslim pockets 1090 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 1: of of Muslims. They have they have executed hostages that 1091 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 1: they've taken, they have blown up marketplaces, they have done 1092 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 1: all the classic Ji hottest actions that we've come to 1093 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 1: know that we associated with al Qaeda and other groups. 1094 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 1: Now there are there were early connections reported on between 1095 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Abu Saif, stretching back to the old days of al 1096 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,759 Speaker 1: Qaeda being the primary Jie hottest threat in the world. 1097 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 1: There are connections between al Qaeda and Abu Saif, but 1098 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: today the primary concern is about the Islamic States connection 1099 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,920 Speaker 1: to this group. Abusa If uh isis last summer put 1100 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: out a propaganda video in languages including uh To Galog, 1101 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: which is a one of a primary language spoken in 1102 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,599 Speaker 1: the Philippines, UM as well as Malay and a few 1103 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: other Southeast Asian UH, a few other Southeast Asian languages 1104 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: specifically exhorting gi hottists in those areas some Malaysia, the Philippines, 1105 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 1: Indonesia not to go try and join the Islamic State 1106 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,680 Speaker 1: in Syria. And they've tried. By the way, this is 1107 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: an isis strategy that they've deployed or they've used for 1108 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,560 Speaker 1: North Africans, for Europeans in particular, saying no, no, stay in, 1109 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,759 Speaker 1: do jihad at home, don't try to come to Syria 1110 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 1: because you might get caught, and you'll be useless if 1111 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,600 Speaker 1: you're caught and in a prison cell. So it was 1112 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 1: about a year ago according to c. S I S 1113 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 1: that this got put out there and it was telling 1114 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: people including members of ABUSAF which also has splinter factions, 1115 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 1: and UH and and other gee hottest entities that are 1116 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 1: smaller that work with it. I mean to give you 1117 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 1: a sense of how complicated this gets. In the Philippines, 1118 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: there's the Moro National Liberation Front and the Moral Islamic 1119 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Liberation Front, and one was negotiating with the government at 1120 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 1: one point and the other was upset that the other 1121 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 1: one was negotiating with the government. I mean, it's a 1122 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,040 Speaker 1: lot of little islands, a lot of little factions, a 1123 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:32,520 Speaker 1: lot of people with different grievances. But the g hottests 1124 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 1: in some cases, ever in some cases the same. Uh 1125 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 1: the g hottest in the area are a concern because 1126 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,520 Speaker 1: ISIS is losing, as we know, ground in Iraq, in Syria, 1127 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 1: and as it continues to suffer from the coalition efforts 1128 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 1: from the air as well as proxy forces on the ground. 1129 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 1: As it continues to suffer losses, it may be looking 1130 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 1: to expand its so called caliphate into other areas. And 1131 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 1: the the nightmare scenario would be a situation where you 1132 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 1: have a group like Abu saif Um taking territory and 1133 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 1: being able to withstand a government counter terrorism action and 1134 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:19,760 Speaker 1: establish a Southeast Asian version of the Islamic State. UM. Now, 1135 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 1: this sounds, of course, like how how could this happen? 1136 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 1: And you know, it's almost fanciful from the jihada's point 1137 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 1: of view, But keep in mind uh Minta now which 1138 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 1: is home to millions of people, has had in the Philippines, 1139 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,719 Speaker 1: has had Islamic extremism for for well, in the modern context, 1140 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:41,760 Speaker 1: at least for decades, there are long standing roots of 1141 01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,600 Speaker 1: jihad is m here and there are connections to the 1142 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 1: global jihad, certainly online, and there have been reports of 1143 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 1: training and funding from some of those groups like Jama Islamia, 1144 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 1: like al Qaeda to um Abu Saif. Now Jama Slamia 1145 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:05,000 Speaker 1: is the most well known jihattest terrorist group in Indonesia, 1146 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 1: which is the largest Muslim majority country in the world. 1147 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 1: And so you can see that this area of the 1148 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: world is one that we often don't think of. We 1149 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 1: don't we think of Islamic extremism as primarily a South Asia, 1150 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,760 Speaker 1: Mid East North Africa phenomenon, as well as of course 1151 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 1: the attacks you know here and in Europe. But I 1152 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 1: mean in terms of large scale jihad operating with holding 1153 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 1: territory and people training and raising raising armies in the 1154 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,799 Speaker 1: case of the Taliban or the Islamic State to fight 1155 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 1: u isis maybe trying to expand its footprint in a 1156 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,599 Speaker 1: place like the Philippines and hope that there's a domino 1157 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 1: effect and that there will be greater extremism in Indonesia 1158 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 1: and Malaysia and in other pockets of Islam in the region, 1159 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 1: Indonesia being, as I said, largest Muslim majority country by 1160 01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 1: population in the world. So if you you have a 1161 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 1: real destabilization and you have JI hottests that are able 1162 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: to have foreign fighters joining them, which by the way, 1163 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 1: has been reported in Marawi. In this recent round of 1164 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,799 Speaker 1: fighting in the Philippines with Ji Hottest, they're the authorities 1165 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,719 Speaker 1: the Philippines are saying, look, there are people coming from 1166 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,760 Speaker 1: and from the Middle East and elsewhere to fight here. 1167 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 1: These are global Ji Hottest foreign fighters showing up in 1168 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,600 Speaker 1: the Philippines, embedding themselves and what has been largely a 1169 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 1: local UH fight, a local terrorist action, and perhaps trying 1170 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:38,360 Speaker 1: to expand this into be yet another franchise, active franchise 1171 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 1: of the Islamic state and to take a whole territory. 1172 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 1: So we will keep an eye on the Philippines as 1173 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 1: a terrorism problem. And we're also going to hit a 1174 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:56,680 Speaker 1: quick break here and I will be right back. Welcome back, 1175 01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:02,600 Speaker 1: Team Buck. I celebrate something of an anniversary today on 1176 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: June one. Well, first of all, it is my little 1177 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 1: sister's birthday, my little sister Daisy, who is amazing and awesome, 1178 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,479 Speaker 1: and it's her birthday, So that's I want to give 1179 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 1: her a little shout out UM, because she's the greatest 1180 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,680 Speaker 1: little sister in the world. But also UM. Today is 1181 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:29,839 Speaker 1: roughly speaking, my sixth year anniversary of being in media, 1182 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 1: of leaving government work, and this whole crazy process I've 1183 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:42,679 Speaker 1: gone through from c I a analyst to UH website writer, 1184 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,560 Speaker 1: to TV guests, to TV host, to radio host to 1185 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:52,120 Speaker 1: guest host, a national syndication. It's all. It all happened 1186 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:57,759 Speaker 1: starting in June of and I just if you don't mind, 1187 01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 1: I thought I would take a couple of moments to 1188 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,679 Speaker 1: get be a little sense of my journey. I often 1189 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 1: get emails or Facebook messages people say how would I 1190 01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 1: transition into media? And I always have to tell people 1191 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 1: that this was not the plan. I did not have 1192 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 1: a plan to get into media. It just happened. I 1193 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 1: was at the NYPD Intelligence Division at the time. I 1194 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 1: had left the CIA and was working at m ip 1195 01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 1: D Intelligence here in New York City. People always asked, well, 1196 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 1: why did you do that. I had actually taken a 1197 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,640 Speaker 1: leave of absence from the agency and worked at the 1198 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 1: NYPD so I could go back to the CIA if 1199 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 1: I had wanted to. But I was on a leave 1200 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 1: of absence status, and uh, they Well, the answer is 1201 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to be in New York and I want 1202 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,639 Speaker 1: to be with my family. I had been away from 1203 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 1: my family for almost five years at that point in 1204 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,120 Speaker 1: the CIA, as well as including some travel abroad, and 1205 01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,480 Speaker 1: I just missed my hometown. I am a New York City, 1206 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,760 Speaker 1: New York City guy, despite the fact that I don't 1207 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 1: care much about the Yankees of the Metsimum New York 1208 01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,920 Speaker 1: through and through. If I ever get picked up by 1209 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 1: a great New York City affiliate radio station, I promise 1210 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 1: I'll become a big Yankees or Mets fan or both. 1211 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,680 Speaker 1: I do like the Giants, so I'll go out and 1212 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 1: say that. Um. But I was thinking about applying or 1213 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 1: I was going to go in the private sector. My 1214 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 1: idea had been that I would go to business school. 1215 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 1: I had gotten offers from a couple of places, and 1216 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:37,720 Speaker 1: it was June, and out of nowhere, I get an 1217 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 1: email and the email is from a friend of a 1218 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 1: friend and it's Hey, I was at a conference, and 1219 01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 1: there's someone that I think you should reach out to, 1220 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: someone that you should talk to because I brought you 1221 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 1: up as a conservative who's leaving the intelligence community, going 1222 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,439 Speaker 1: to be out of the government, out of government work, 1223 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 1: and I thought, maybe, you know, you would just be 1224 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 1: able to do some writing while you're in college, mean sorry, 1225 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,680 Speaker 1: while you're in grad school getting an NBA Masters in 1226 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 1: Business Administration. I was going to be an NBA guy 1227 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 1: and then hopefully go work in corporate America and you know, 1228 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 1: find a lovely little lady to settle down with and 1229 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,040 Speaker 1: have some kids and get an English bulldog and call 1230 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: it a day. And that was the That was the plan. 1231 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 1: And I saw this email and I responded, and I 1232 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,799 Speaker 1: was put in touch with a woman named Betsy Morgan, 1233 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: and she had previously been the CEO of the Huffington Post, 1234 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,719 Speaker 1: a site I'm sure you're all quite familiar with. And 1235 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,519 Speaker 1: I sat down with her, and initially the meeting we 1236 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 1: were in this big empty office space in midtown Manhattan, 1237 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 1: right right in the in the heart of the of 1238 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 1: the action in terms of corporate New York City stuff, 1239 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, blocks away from Fox News and right near 1240 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 1: NBC and Rockefeller Center. And I sat down with her 1241 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:08,880 Speaker 1: in this empty office space and there was nothing. There 1242 01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 1: was a card table, like a card table you'd buy 1243 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,560 Speaker 1: off of Amazon dot com. For ten dollars and a 1244 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,080 Speaker 1: little fold and fold out chairs, and we sat down 1245 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,479 Speaker 1: and I remember talking to a little bit about how 1246 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, I just I loved conservative media. I had 1247 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:27,559 Speaker 1: been a long time consumer of Fox News. Uh, Drudge 1248 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: Report had been my homepage for over a decade at 1249 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 1: that point, and I used to read National Review in 1250 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 1: town Hall, and Um, I was somebody who was just 1251 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 1: always consuming as much conservative media as I possibly could, 1252 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: including in my government days, when I kept it mostly 1253 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 1: quiet that I was a conservative because we all know 1254 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 1: that it's uh not well. The liberals will get mad 1255 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 1: at you when you're a conservative in government if you 1256 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 1: talk about it. So I had this meeting to sit 1257 01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,760 Speaker 1: down and to Betsy's well, I would hope to her 1258 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 1: credit if you agree, UM decided that I should on 1259 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:13,000 Speaker 1: the spot more or less decide. After a very lengthy 1260 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:17,720 Speaker 1: application process for business school, UM give up going at 1261 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 1: least for a year. I could always reapply after a 1262 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,640 Speaker 1: year and come join the circus, so to speak. Go 1263 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 1: work for this crazy new company called the Blaze that 1264 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,639 Speaker 1: was being started by this guy Glenn Beck, who would 1265 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,360 Speaker 1: later on become my boss for the better part of 1266 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:41,840 Speaker 1: five years or five years plus and I sat down 1267 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 1: at thatt Sy and she said, you know, you should 1268 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,080 Speaker 1: just come work for us. I just from talking to 1269 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 1: her about my background and everything else, you should come 1270 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,120 Speaker 1: work for us, and you need to go meet with Glenn. 1271 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 1: And I sat down with Glenn and we talked, I 1272 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,160 Speaker 1: don't know, for thirty or forty minutes, and I do 1273 01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,240 Speaker 1: remember at the end of the conversation he said to me, 1274 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 1: you know you're You're the kind of guy that I 1275 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:06,600 Speaker 1: need to have around this place. Uh. And it was 1276 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,679 Speaker 1: maybe a few meetings later when I shook his hand 1277 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,360 Speaker 1: and I just said, I just won't let you know, Glenn, 1278 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,439 Speaker 1: I'm I'm all in. I know at first this was 1279 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,920 Speaker 1: kind of out of nowhere thing, but I'm all in 1280 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:21,200 Speaker 1: on on doing this and I was so. From there, 1281 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,360 Speaker 1: I began working at the Blaze dot com. Not as 1282 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,599 Speaker 1: a pundit, not as someone who was going to be 1283 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 1: on TV a lot or anything like that. I was 1284 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:36,400 Speaker 1: just working mostly remotely, but sometimes in the newsroom in Midtown, 1285 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,559 Speaker 1: which was that same office where Betsy Morgan had initially 1286 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: brought me in. Remember she'd been the CEO of the 1287 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 1: Huffington Post, very high profile job, and I was working 1288 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,600 Speaker 1: for her and for for Glenn Beck, and I was 1289 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 1: writing for the Blaze dot com. And I will say 1290 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 1: that that was a very educational experience. I think that 1291 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,360 Speaker 1: website writing is a great way to get to know 1292 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,240 Speaker 1: the media business. It forces you to be really on 1293 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,719 Speaker 1: top of what's going on, uh, day in and day out. 1294 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,559 Speaker 1: I do think there are some pressures on it, like 1295 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 1: there are in many industries that are not helpful. They're 1296 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 1: not constructive, clickbait, over selling headlines. What's the difference between 1297 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,960 Speaker 1: content theft and content sharing. There's a lot of stuff 1298 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,400 Speaker 1: about website being a website writer um as opposed to 1299 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: a traditional columnists. By the way, I remember, I was 1300 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 1: just posting stories. I wasn't at the time hired to 1301 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 1: share my opinion. In fact, early on, I butted heads 1302 01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,839 Speaker 1: with some of the other members of the new staff 1303 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 1: because I wanted to analyze things. I wanted to be 1304 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 1: an opinion nat if you will, a decider, and they said, well, 1305 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 1: that's not your job. Your job is just to post stories, 1306 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 1: use the associated press feed that we pay for, and 1307 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,760 Speaker 1: cut and paste and and add elements to it. And 1308 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 1: that was what I was hired to do. So I 1309 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 1: learned a lot about the business that way, and of 1310 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,240 Speaker 1: course I think later on when I got more involved 1311 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:13,520 Speaker 1: in TV at the Blaze TV, having website experience was illuminating. 1312 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 1: It definitely put me in very close constant contact with 1313 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,320 Speaker 1: our readers, and I had this sense from the start 1314 01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,880 Speaker 1: of being a medium member. I had no formal media training. 1315 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 1: I've never been a journalism school. I've never been taken 1316 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 1: a journalism class. The only thing that might even come 1317 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,080 Speaker 1: close to media training was my time as an eighteen 1318 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,679 Speaker 1: year old interning for CBS eating news with Dan Rather, 1319 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,679 Speaker 1: where the executive producer at the time, Jim Murphy, would 1320 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 1: later on go to be the executive producer of The 1321 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,640 Speaker 1: Morning Show on CNN. And it was funny because one 1322 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 1: day I was booked as a guest on the show, 1323 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,479 Speaker 1: and sure enough, the guy who had been the EP 1324 01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 1: when I was an intern carrying around heavy boxes literally 1325 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 1: that was part of my job, carrying on boxes of 1326 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 1: VHS tapes, uh, and also running scripts around, pulling actual 1327 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,639 Speaker 1: physical scripts off the printer and giving them to various 1328 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 1: members of the CBS staff. And then I was on 1329 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,799 Speaker 1: the show as a guest. Now, all of a sudden, 1330 01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:14,280 Speaker 1: I was talent thirteen. No gosh, man, I can't even 1331 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:19,680 Speaker 1: do the math. Fifteen No, yeah, fifteen years later, I 1332 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:24,080 Speaker 1: think that's right, maybe sixteen years later. So, um, that 1333 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,080 Speaker 1: was quite That was quite a moment. That was a funny, 1334 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,280 Speaker 1: funny experience. But so I was a website writer and 1335 01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 1: then I um learned that I wanted to do more 1336 01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:40,240 Speaker 1: TV because I felt like that is for one unnecessary 1337 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,240 Speaker 1: step in in growing an audience and following. People see 1338 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,760 Speaker 1: you on TV, they have a better understanding of who 1339 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,599 Speaker 1: you are, and I think you're writing can speak with 1340 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 1: with an even louder voice, both in terms of reach 1341 01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,920 Speaker 1: as well as those who see you on TV feel 1342 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,600 Speaker 1: like they know you in some way and they have 1343 01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,400 Speaker 1: heard your voice and seeing your face and your Russians, 1344 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,439 Speaker 1: and so when you write, there is an additional layer 1345 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,800 Speaker 1: that comes across for people that believe in what you're doing, 1346 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,639 Speaker 1: believe what I was doing. I started doing more TV, 1347 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:13,200 Speaker 1: And what initially started at was that I was just 1348 01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:18,040 Speaker 1: another guy in the newsroom who would sometimes join Glenn 1349 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,479 Speaker 1: when he was off the show and he had a 1350 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,920 Speaker 1: guest host. They would do these panels with different people 1351 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,000 Speaker 1: from the website. So this is I'm at the Blaze 1352 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,880 Speaker 1: dot com. I've left the CIA, I've left the NYPD. 1353 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,960 Speaker 1: I have said no to business school. I had to 1354 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,720 Speaker 1: write out a check to hold a spot at one 1355 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 1: of those business schools that was like all the money 1356 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,759 Speaker 1: I had in the world at the time. I cashed 1357 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,559 Speaker 1: out my four oh one K so I could afford 1358 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,360 Speaker 1: to apply to business school because the applications are very 1359 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 1: expensive and the tests and everything costs thousands and thousands 1360 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,200 Speaker 1: of dollars just to apply. I didn't have a very 1361 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,040 Speaker 1: big four oh one K, so I cashed it out. 1362 01:26:57,960 --> 01:26:59,880 Speaker 1: But I remember I got a T shirt from one 1363 01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:03,280 Speaker 1: of those business schools that I always says, my uh 1364 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,040 Speaker 1: was my most expensive T shirt of all time. It 1365 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 1: definitely cost thousands of dollars. Because I didn't end up 1366 01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 1: going to that school, but they sent me the T 1367 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,800 Speaker 1: shirt because I had saved a spot, which was fine, 1368 01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:15,800 Speaker 1: whether they have a wait list of hundreds of people. 1369 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they couldn't have been happier to just take 1370 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,800 Speaker 1: my money and give my spot to somebody else. The 1371 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,479 Speaker 1: next day when I when I told him I wasn't 1372 01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,519 Speaker 1: going to be attending. So it was quite a risk 1373 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,599 Speaker 1: in retrospect, I threw myself into this and the chances 1374 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 1: of success in media and any real way are remote. 1375 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,800 Speaker 1: The chances of even staying in this business. I know 1376 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,720 Speaker 1: many people that were in it when I started who 1377 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,720 Speaker 1: were no longer in it, and so that's how I 1378 01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 1: ended up started transitioning into writing for the Blaze dot com, 1379 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 1: but also then doing more on the TV side. And 1380 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 1: today is six years of me working in media. It 1381 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,680 Speaker 1: was the first week of June when I decided, when 1382 01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 1: I handed in my final you know, resignation at the NYPD, 1383 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,839 Speaker 1: and decided that I was going to go join Glenn 1384 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 1: Beck and try a media career anyway I want. I 1385 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,320 Speaker 1: don't want to talk to you about the radio side 1386 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,240 Speaker 1: of this, which is my my, my favorite part of 1387 01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 1: the story in just a second, which you're gonna have to, uh, 1388 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:21,040 Speaker 1: stay with me, please through the break and we'll be 1389 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:33,559 Speaker 1: back in just a few minutes at Ultimate Team Buck 1390 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:38,880 Speaker 1: just telling the story of my transition into media from 1391 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,880 Speaker 1: being an intelligence officer, because I get asked a fair amount. 1392 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:46,919 Speaker 1: It's an unusual transition, to be sure, and June one 1393 01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,160 Speaker 1: is really the This is when I decided, I mean, 1394 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,639 Speaker 1: this is the and this is the anniversary of that 1395 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:58,599 Speaker 1: process whereby I decided to leave behind my life in government, 1396 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,599 Speaker 1: leave behind grad school and the couple of hundred thousand 1397 01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 1: dollars of debt that I would have accrued had I 1398 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,400 Speaker 1: actually gone and try to make a go of it 1399 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 1: in media. And many of you listening to me right 1400 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:16,680 Speaker 1: now have been with me on radio for four years 1401 01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 1: because it was a couple of years in during my 1402 01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,360 Speaker 1: time at the Blaze. I'll skip beyond a little bit 1403 01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,200 Speaker 1: on the TV, although one day I'll tell you stories 1404 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,639 Speaker 1: about it was like to be on that Blaze TV 1405 01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 1: show where I was the only in house talent that 1406 01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 1: they had, and I wasn't considered talent. I was just 1407 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,639 Speaker 1: considered a guy from the newsroom that they put at 1408 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 1: the table with other people who were talents, all of 1409 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,479 Speaker 1: whom were older than me, had bigger media profiles, had 1410 01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 1: worked in media for years. Uh se cup Amy Holmes, 1411 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:50,800 Speaker 1: will Kin later on Terra set Mayor, and they put 1412 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,439 Speaker 1: me at this table and I was just supposed to 1413 01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:55,120 Speaker 1: be a representative of the Blaze newsroom. I really wasn't 1414 01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be a pundit talent. I don't like that 1415 01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 1: word talent, right, so little little grandiose for my taste. 1416 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,880 Speaker 1: But that's what is said in the business, so I 1417 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,840 Speaker 1: UH had to try out. Initially, they had tryouts for 1418 01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,479 Speaker 1: everyone in the news room who wanted to and they 1419 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,760 Speaker 1: did test shows, UM, and I was the one at 1420 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 1: the end of all these tryouts, I was the one chosen. UM. 1421 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,880 Speaker 1: And I remember one of the segments we talked about 1422 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 1: had some It was some issue of constitutional law, and 1423 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,400 Speaker 1: it just so happened that one of my close friends 1424 01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,400 Speaker 1: at the time also happened to be one of the 1425 01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:33,000 Speaker 1: most brilliant constitutional scholars and and legal minds I know, 1426 01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,680 Speaker 1: and we had been talking about the issue at some 1427 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:39,080 Speaker 1: length before I was doing this segment, so I was 1428 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:43,160 Speaker 1: able to, I will say, UH, show a depth of 1429 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 1: knowledge that was unrivaled at that table. UM. To be sure, 1430 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,160 Speaker 1: and I'd like to think that wasn't the only time 1431 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,439 Speaker 1: that happened, but it certainly on that day it was UH. 1432 01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:57,240 Speaker 1: And I remembered and later on I established very good 1433 01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,800 Speaker 1: relationships over time with everybody on that show, and they've 1434 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,559 Speaker 1: all gone on to bigger and better things, and I'm 1435 01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:06,880 Speaker 1: very very happy for all of them. UH. But but 1436 01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:09,360 Speaker 1: it was radio where I really knew I wanted to 1437 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:16,120 Speaker 1: make a mark, and I started doing radio in so 1438 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:20,360 Speaker 1: four years ago. UM. And I just went to our 1439 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,479 Speaker 1: radio director at the Blaze and said, look, I want 1440 01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,400 Speaker 1: to do some radio and they said, well, we'll give 1441 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,080 Speaker 1: you a weekend show for three hours. You're not gonna 1442 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,559 Speaker 1: get paid a dime for it, and we'll see how 1443 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,840 Speaker 1: you do. And that was the birth of the Freedom Hut. 1444 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:39,519 Speaker 1: That was when I was able to create my own show, 1445 01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 1: my own world of analysis and and just sharing thoughts 1446 01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,720 Speaker 1: and news and information of all kinds and telling stories 1447 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:54,760 Speaker 1: and growing this wonderful tribe of fellow patriots um known 1448 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,000 Speaker 1: as Team Buck. It started with a Saturday show. Some 1449 01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 1: of you will hear this sometimes when I get called 1450 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,840 Speaker 1: or they'll say, you know, original Squad. What they mean 1451 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 1: by that is they've been listening to me now for 1452 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 1: four years, starting when I began on Saturday, and no 1453 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,680 Speaker 1: one had any idea who this kid was doing a 1454 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,639 Speaker 1: radio show. No one thought the radio show would work 1455 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 1: at first, I think were very few people did uh, 1456 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:18,799 Speaker 1: and actually caught on very quickly and with a number 1457 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:23,840 Speaker 1: of radio shows and hosts at the Blaze. Within a 1458 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:30,479 Speaker 1: matter of about six months, I was the second most 1459 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,360 Speaker 1: listened to host on the Blaze radio network after Glenn Beck, 1460 01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:37,080 Speaker 1: who many are familiar with who's of course a huge 1461 01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:41,480 Speaker 1: name in radio. So it was it was quite a 1462 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,600 Speaker 1: quite a rise, quite a journey starting out doing a 1463 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,280 Speaker 1: show when also when this is just as an aside, 1464 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:55,040 Speaker 1: I had been diagnosed celiac pretty recently to the show 1465 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,759 Speaker 1: and it just starting the show, and had been really 1466 01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,120 Speaker 1: sick for months before then, and no one knew why, 1467 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 1: and there was the anxiety of you know, why am 1468 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,519 Speaker 1: I so sick? And I'm like disappearing. And first you 1469 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,479 Speaker 1: lose some weight from being unhealthy, and people say, oh, 1470 01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:10,960 Speaker 1: you look good, and then they realize, oh no, this 1471 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,479 Speaker 1: isn't that kind of weight, This isn't that sort of 1472 01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:17,200 Speaker 1: weight loss. This is bad. But people stuck with me. 1473 01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:20,439 Speaker 1: There were people who believed in me, starting at the 1474 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,519 Speaker 1: at the earliest days of that show. Um, and they 1475 01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,759 Speaker 1: came to be known as Team Buck for obvious reasons. 1476 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,800 Speaker 1: And call it the Freedom Hut, because that was what 1477 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to call my c I a office. But 1478 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,040 Speaker 1: it was a joke. We were not We never actually 1479 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:36,880 Speaker 1: called it that, but that was always my suggestion that 1480 01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:40,280 Speaker 1: we should call my office in d C the Freedom Hunt. Um. 1481 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:41,840 Speaker 1: So now I have a freedom Hunt and I have 1482 01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,439 Speaker 1: all of you listening, and UM, I have to say 1483 01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 1: that this is the the realization that I have today. 1484 01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,439 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why I'm talking to you 1485 01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,000 Speaker 1: and some of you have heard parts of this story 1486 01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 1: or maybe even all the story before, is that it's 1487 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,920 Speaker 1: been six years and here I am on a syndicate 1488 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,839 Speaker 1: radio show. UM. Came out of came out of nowhere, 1489 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:05,600 Speaker 1: and nobody thought this would happen. And now I'm on 1490 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:10,080 Speaker 1: over a hundred stations and we're growing. Our podcast numbers 1491 01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:13,439 Speaker 1: are fantastic. Please keep helping me push those that looks 1492 01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,400 Speaker 1: great for the show, UM. And the show is always 1493 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,000 Speaker 1: evolving and I'm always trying to make it better and 1494 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,720 Speaker 1: add new elements into it. And when I say that 1495 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,479 Speaker 1: I am honored and humbled and grateful to have all 1496 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:27,120 Speaker 1: of you listening, I really mean it, because this all 1497 01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:32,400 Speaker 1: just came from well, your support and just determination and 1498 01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:34,679 Speaker 1: belief on my side that we can make all this happen. 1499 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,920 Speaker 1: So it's my six year media anniversary. In a sense, 1500 01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,599 Speaker 1: it led to the creation the Freedom hut. UM. Six 1501 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,920 Speaker 1: years ago, if you had told me I would be 1502 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,640 Speaker 1: on this radio station right now talking to you, or 1503 01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,360 Speaker 1: on over a hundred stations across the country speaking to 1504 01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,960 Speaker 1: you and a national audience with Premiere Radio Networks, the 1505 01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,400 Speaker 1: best radio syndicator in the country. I would have said 1506 01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,080 Speaker 1: no way. So it's important sometimes to take a moment 1507 01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:05,200 Speaker 1: to be thankful. And I'm thankful for this show for 1508 01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,679 Speaker 1: six years in media and it's only been possible because 1509 01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,000 Speaker 1: of all of you. And I've got a lot more 1510 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,760 Speaker 1: great stuff planned. So thank you, team. Um I'll be 1511 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:40,080 Speaker 1: right now. That gives you a sense of the protests, 1512 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:46,600 Speaker 1: the recent protests at Evergreen State College. Now, this is 1513 01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:52,280 Speaker 1: a place that is on the cutting edge of leftist lunacy. 1514 01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:56,760 Speaker 1: Evergreen State College is a place where there was recently 1515 01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:05,479 Speaker 1: a a mandated day of absence for white people. Think 1516 01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,400 Speaker 1: about that for a moment. There was a day of 1517 01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:14,800 Speaker 1: absence on in April at this school where students, predominantly 1518 01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:22,679 Speaker 1: minority students demanded that fellow white students and faculty stay 1519 01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:27,200 Speaker 1: off campus. Now, there is some history of people, when 1520 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:31,040 Speaker 1: they want to make a point about oppression or not 1521 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,519 Speaker 1: being given their full due, of deciding to stay home. 1522 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,720 Speaker 1: You certainly have the agency as a person, as a 1523 01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,720 Speaker 1: human being, to not go to work, do not leave 1524 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,400 Speaker 1: your home, to not go to school, but to demand 1525 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:49,960 Speaker 1: that others not go to school that they are paying for, 1526 01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,959 Speaker 1: to demand that other professors not go to a campus 1527 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,439 Speaker 1: where they are paid to teach students who are paid 1528 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:02,280 Speaker 1: or are paying to study. There is a whole other 1529 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:08,320 Speaker 1: level of leftist lunacy demand. Uh. And I have to 1530 01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:11,680 Speaker 1: say you. You read about this story, and there's a 1531 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,960 Speaker 1: recent opinion calm in the Wall Street Journal from one 1532 01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,719 Speaker 1: of the professors involved about this, and it is almost 1533 01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,000 Speaker 1: hard to believe. But this is where we are. You see, 1534 01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:28,640 Speaker 1: progressivism has to continue on. It must consume, it must destroy, 1535 01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:34,680 Speaker 1: it must find new targets. Because if it had to 1536 01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:39,360 Speaker 1: actually stay still, if the progressive movement was was not 1537 01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,160 Speaker 1: able to just scream about the next injustice, we would 1538 01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:47,360 Speaker 1: see that they never fix anything. It's not about justice. 1539 01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:51,280 Speaker 1: That the new left is just about power and about 1540 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:57,800 Speaker 1: uh self aggrandizement, self righteousness, and self indulgence. Um. It 1541 01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:01,040 Speaker 1: is of course an elevation of the self through a 1542 01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 1: collective approach. Right, a collectivist approach. I am part of 1543 01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,479 Speaker 1: this mass of people making demands. Therefore I am a 1544 01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:14,800 Speaker 1: better person. But imagine this. Evergreen State College in Washington 1545 01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:20,479 Speaker 1: State has a day of mandated absence for white people 1546 01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:24,040 Speaker 1: leave the campus. White people. This is all really you 1547 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:25,640 Speaker 1: can read about on the Wall Street Journal will have 1548 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:27,960 Speaker 1: a piece today. We have a piece today up on 1549 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:32,840 Speaker 1: buck sexton dot com with some of the details. Uh. 1550 01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:38,280 Speaker 1: But a a a forced day of segregation is what 1551 01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:42,000 Speaker 1: this amounts to. And yet we are supposed to look 1552 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:49,719 Speaker 1: at this in terms other than complete outrage, because of course, 1553 01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:54,639 Speaker 1: these are minority students making these demands. And I couldn't 1554 01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,839 Speaker 1: play the rest of that video for you from Evergreen 1555 01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:01,800 Speaker 1: State College because it was so full of profanity. You 1556 01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:06,200 Speaker 1: have students screaming profanity at teachers. You have students asking 1557 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:10,000 Speaker 1: teachers questions in front of a mob, and when the 1558 01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:14,959 Speaker 1: teacher tries to respectfully answer, students shouting over and cursing 1559 01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:19,639 Speaker 1: at those professors. Now, somebody who went to a high 1560 01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:22,240 Speaker 1: school on a full I went to a private high 1561 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,479 Speaker 1: school on a full scholarship. So each year my father 1562 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:30,439 Speaker 1: had to write out a very painful check of about 1563 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,160 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars I think for laboratory fees. I still always 1564 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:35,840 Speaker 1: thought it was funny the school made us pay that, 1565 01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,120 Speaker 1: But so I cost in high school fifteen dollars a 1566 01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,720 Speaker 1: year to go to school because of the generosity of 1567 01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:44,360 Speaker 1: people who had come before me. It was entirely funded 1568 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,479 Speaker 1: by previous alumni. This private school in New York City 1569 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,080 Speaker 1: called Regions. It receives no outside money other than from alumni. 1570 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:55,560 Speaker 1: In the initial endowment from a wealthy family here, a 1571 01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,320 Speaker 1: wealthy Christian family here in New York City that wanted 1572 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:02,360 Speaker 1: a place for young boys to get a top education 1573 01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:07,160 Speaker 1: who were Catholic. Um the notion that I would have 1574 01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,320 Speaker 1: ever raised my voice in high school or or in 1575 01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:13,320 Speaker 1: college at Amherst to a professor in this way, forget 1576 01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:20,120 Speaker 1: about it being completely disrespectful and and just odious, right, 1577 01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:24,320 Speaker 1: just a disgusting behavior I would have been. I would 1578 01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,800 Speaker 1: have been annihilated. I mean I would have been kicked 1579 01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,120 Speaker 1: out of I would have been kicked out of high 1580 01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,479 Speaker 1: school the same day. I don't even think they would 1581 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,320 Speaker 1: let me collect my pens and pencils out of my desk. 1582 01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:37,080 Speaker 1: It would have been the end. Uh. And in college, 1583 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,439 Speaker 1: I think I would have likely not been very different. 1584 01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,200 Speaker 1: There would have been a disciplinary proceeding. I would have 1585 01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,360 Speaker 1: been at least kicked off campus first semester, maybe for 1586 01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,720 Speaker 1: the year. I guess things have changed a lot. Now 1587 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:53,240 Speaker 1: you have students chanting about racist teachers telling white teachers 1588 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:54,920 Speaker 1: they are not allowed to show up because of their 1589 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,559 Speaker 1: skin color on a day of work at their at 1590 01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:00,720 Speaker 1: their college. Other students, by the way, also told think 1591 01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,240 Speaker 1: about the intimidation involved in that as well. So you're 1592 01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:06,160 Speaker 1: a white student at Evergreen State College. You want to 1593 01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:10,160 Speaker 1: show up even though there's this day of absence, this 1594 01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:14,320 Speaker 1: mandated day of absence for white people. Mind you, do 1595 01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:17,800 Speaker 1: you think that you're going to be treated kindly by 1596 01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,519 Speaker 1: the minority students who are part of this activist core 1597 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:25,320 Speaker 1: that's screaming about black power and racist teachers. And no, 1598 01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:27,880 Speaker 1: I think any normal student would assume that there's a 1599 01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:32,880 Speaker 1: very real possibility that you would face physical violence were 1600 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:36,080 Speaker 1: you to show up on campus. So there's also a 1601 01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:40,640 Speaker 1: not so veiled threat involved in much of this. But 1602 01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,360 Speaker 1: when you get a little deeper and get a little 1603 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:48,320 Speaker 1: deeper into the philosophy here, this isn't all that surprising. 1604 01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,439 Speaker 1: You see Evergreen State College, which views itself as on 1605 01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:55,400 Speaker 1: the progressive vanguard. It is a very left wing school 1606 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:59,320 Speaker 1: by its own admission, But this is an accredited college. 1607 01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,759 Speaker 1: You go there and get a degree, and people treated 1608 01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,720 Speaker 1: like any other college degree. I suppose at least at 1609 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:09,120 Speaker 1: some level. They have gone from what we could call 1610 01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:14,000 Speaker 1: a diversity and multicultural agenda, or the the diversity agenda, 1611 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,799 Speaker 1: I think is the best way to put it, two 1612 01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:23,160 Speaker 1: a an equity agenda. They established last year something called 1613 01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:30,000 Speaker 1: the Equity Council, and according to their own newspapers through newspaper, 1614 01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:33,040 Speaker 1: it was to shift the college from quote a diversity 1615 01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:38,360 Speaker 1: agenda to an equity agenda by, among other things, requiring 1616 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:47,799 Speaker 1: an equity justification for every faculty higher This is shocking. 1617 01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:49,800 Speaker 1: I know when you hear, you're wait a second, what 1618 01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,680 Speaker 1: what is this? How how could they mandate this for 1619 01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:56,040 Speaker 1: the school? And the students are demanding this? And what 1620 01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:01,680 Speaker 1: this is ideologically speaking, is a takeover by what are 1621 01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:06,559 Speaker 1: often called critical race theorists now the short version of 1622 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,800 Speaker 1: critical race theorists, and they're really a series of scholars 1623 01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,479 Speaker 1: that it was originally critical legal theory and then it 1624 01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:17,160 Speaker 1: just became critical race theory. But it comes from the eighties, 1625 01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:23,120 Speaker 1: from the dawn of really using political correctness and affirmative 1626 01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:28,600 Speaker 1: action and the law as a tool of enforcing equity 1627 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:37,000 Speaker 1: on a racial and gender and any oppressed group on 1628 01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:41,360 Speaker 1: that basis. So the critic critical race theory which is 1629 01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:44,840 Speaker 1: very similar similar as an offshoot of critical legal theory 1630 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,599 Speaker 1: UH merely says that, well not merely, but it says 1631 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:55,960 Speaker 1: that all, um, all aspects of society are infused with racism, 1632 01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,799 Speaker 1: and that all people, whether they themselves are racist, aren't 1633 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:04,560 Speaker 1: or not, are products of a racist system, and therefore 1634 01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:08,360 Speaker 1: they are benefiting from that and part of the oppression 1635 01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:12,559 Speaker 1: of others. You could say that critical race theory, which 1636 01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,760 Speaker 1: even before that it's just critical theory. And then if 1637 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,000 Speaker 1: you want to go even earlier than that, you can 1638 01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,960 Speaker 1: look at the UH the philosophical foundations of all this 1639 01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:28,440 Speaker 1: with people like Herbert Mark Qus who did critical theory, 1640 01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,360 Speaker 1: and if you go even if you go even deeper 1641 01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:36,679 Speaker 1: into Marques, you'll get into his Haydi Gary and Marxism um. 1642 01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:41,880 Speaker 1: And so these were Marxists, These were Marxists in the 1643 01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:46,760 Speaker 1: mid in the early mid twenty century, and the their 1644 01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:53,120 Speaker 1: Marxist theories were built upon using racial using a racial 1645 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,920 Speaker 1: component as well. But of course racism and and end 1646 01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:00,240 Speaker 1: to racism was always one of the great unfulfilled old 1647 01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 1: promises UM, stretching all the way back to to Lenin 1648 01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 1: and the Soviet Soviet Revolution UM. But they then so 1649 01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:12,160 Speaker 1: you had critical you had a critical theory which is 1650 01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 1: built on Marxism see if Marxism, critical theory, critical legal theory, 1651 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:20,640 Speaker 1: critical race theory. And now you have equity agenda. And 1652 01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,880 Speaker 1: the equity agenda is an expansion of other things you're 1653 01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:28,160 Speaker 1: already quite familiar with, like you know, white privilege and 1654 01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:33,519 Speaker 1: an equality of ends, meaning that people, now, there's no 1655 01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,800 Speaker 1: such thing as merit, there's no such thing as hard 1656 01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,880 Speaker 1: work and earning. What you have. Everything you have if 1657 01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,479 Speaker 1: you are white, comes from a racist system that has 1658 01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,800 Speaker 1: given it to you, and you only have it because 1659 01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,360 Speaker 1: of the oppression of others. And therefore it is a duty, 1660 01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:53,879 Speaker 1: a moral, ethical, and legal duty of the college, campus, 1661 01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:58,080 Speaker 1: of the society at large here in America to make 1662 01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:03,439 Speaker 1: up for that. Uh. They is effectively, and it's not 1663 01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:06,200 Speaker 1: just for African Americans, but this would be a reparation 1664 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:14,120 Speaker 1: or reparations for the inequities of our deeply racist, oppressive society. 1665 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:19,240 Speaker 1: Intersectionality is the way it's talked about today. By the way, 1666 01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,000 Speaker 1: if if you listen back to the segment a couple 1667 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,400 Speaker 1: of times, I know I'm using a lot of jargon, 1668 01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:25,559 Speaker 1: and but this, this is the real meat of it, 1669 01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,920 Speaker 1: and this is more than you'll hear from almost anybody 1670 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,479 Speaker 1: else on the topic, because I studied this. I wrote 1671 01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,960 Speaker 1: my college thesis on campus speech codes, and it was 1672 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:39,760 Speaker 1: all about Marques and critical race theory and postmodernism, and 1673 01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:44,840 Speaker 1: so I used to live, eat, sleep, breathe the dissection 1674 01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,040 Speaker 1: of this stuff. It's been a little while, but a 1675 01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:51,639 Speaker 1: lot of it has stayed with me. So intersectionality, which 1676 01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 1: is what people who are Lena Dunham fans will throw 1677 01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,200 Speaker 1: out there as a term because it's also a signaling term. Right. 1678 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,000 Speaker 1: If you know what intersectionality is, than you're one of 1679 01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,640 Speaker 1: the good people. Um. But that just means that society 1680 01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:12,120 Speaker 1: is one big struggle and fight between the oppressed and 1681 01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:17,000 Speaker 1: the oppressor. And the oppressor, of course are white, predominantly Christian, 1682 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:20,320 Speaker 1: but white males, so they are at the top of 1683 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,400 Speaker 1: the oppression hierarchy, which means you have to flip that 1684 01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:28,200 Speaker 1: upside down. Take away their privileges, give them fewer rights, 1685 01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:33,280 Speaker 1: give them uh legal or create legal justifications to either 1686 01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,960 Speaker 1: limit their opportunity or take away their property in the 1687 01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:42,519 Speaker 1: name of the collective good. This is really scary stuff. Now. 1688 01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,439 Speaker 1: I know that you might be thinking, well, it's at 1689 01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:48,639 Speaker 1: Evergreen State College who really cares. But you've seen that video. 1690 01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:52,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure of students yelling at the professor at Yale. 1691 01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:58,400 Speaker 1: You've seen other videos, whether it's at Missoo or elsewhere, 1692 01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:04,280 Speaker 1: of these crazy college students who are so rude and 1693 01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:08,759 Speaker 1: so full of themselves and ignorant at the same time, 1694 01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,040 Speaker 1: deeply ignorant. I always want to walk around at one 1695 01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,040 Speaker 1: of these protests and just say, do any of you 1696 01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,200 Speaker 1: actually read? Do any of you study anything? Do you 1697 01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,479 Speaker 1: know anything other than the crap that is fed to 1698 01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:23,920 Speaker 1: you by reading daily cod's and watching HBO and all 1699 01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:27,960 Speaker 1: of this leftist, progressive propaganda that has infused in your 1700 01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:34,720 Speaker 1: every day. Does anyone ever teach you about honor, integrity, selflessness, kindness? 1701 01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:38,360 Speaker 1: Is this a part of your daily routine at all 1702 01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,960 Speaker 1: on these campuses? I think the answer for a lot 1703 01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:45,360 Speaker 1: of these students is no. They've abandoned all of that 1704 01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:48,639 Speaker 1: because it's so much easier to just claim that everything 1705 01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,920 Speaker 1: is unjust and you are in search of some great equity. 1706 01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,439 Speaker 1: You are in search of some fairness that otherwise would 1707 01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:59,040 Speaker 1: escape your day to day were it not for these 1708 01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:02,040 Speaker 1: systems that you can now put in place to demand 1709 01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:06,200 Speaker 1: a day without white people Evergreen, My friends might be 1710 01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,439 Speaker 1: the craziest, but it is the first. There will be 1711 01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 1: others that follow. This is the laboratory of the left. 1712 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:33,479 Speaker 1: This is just the progressive than quiet were all stand 1713 01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:37,280 Speaker 1: You understand that time at your condision of master, in 1714 01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:40,920 Speaker 1: your job creative place of comfort and home for the 1715 01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:44,080 Speaker 1: students that live in Still you have not done that, 1716 01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:48,080 Speaker 1: But sending out that email stickled against your position as master. 1717 01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:53,160 Speaker 1: Do you understand that believe they're gonna transfer because you 1718 01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:58,400 Speaker 1: are a court students reunity. You did not sleep that 1719 01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:05,040 Speaker 1: night for your That's a student at Yale University a 1720 01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:09,800 Speaker 1: while back, yelling at a professor because he thought that 1721 01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:17,080 Speaker 1: students crying about children wearing costumes for Halloween that appropriate cultures, 1722 01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,120 Speaker 1: that maybe that was a little too snowflake like, maybe 1723 01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:24,720 Speaker 1: that was just a little too overly hyper sensitive. And 1724 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:29,120 Speaker 1: I skipped past the part where she screamed a profanity 1725 01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:33,120 Speaker 1: in his face. Uh. And this was I think a 1726 01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:35,160 Speaker 1: wake up call for a lot of people. So I've 1727 01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:37,760 Speaker 1: played for you what was going on just recently at 1728 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,960 Speaker 1: Evergreen State College, but this was at Yale Um over 1729 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,800 Speaker 1: a year ago. The audio I just played you, which 1730 01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:49,880 Speaker 1: became very famous and What I want to make sure 1731 01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,160 Speaker 1: that we're all clear about is that this is what 1732 01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:55,120 Speaker 1: happened at Evergreen, about a demand that white students and 1733 01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:59,439 Speaker 1: professors stay home that will be replicated somewhere else. This 1734 01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,880 Speaker 1: stuff now or just happens and then entirely goes away 1735 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:07,840 Speaker 1: because the logical ends of critical theory, critical legal theory, 1736 01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:14,200 Speaker 1: critical race theory, intersectionality, and really a a godless and 1737 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:19,560 Speaker 1: evil collectivist Marxism, which is the that is the underlying 1738 01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:24,280 Speaker 1: foundation for all of this, uh that will take you 1739 01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:29,160 Speaker 1: into some very desperate and terrible places eventually. That's and 1740 01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:32,080 Speaker 1: that's where we find ourselves now on these campuses. For 1741 01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:36,479 Speaker 1: every student that is caught on video screaming this kind 1742 01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:40,000 Speaker 1: of nonsense at a professor and showing blatant disrespect and 1743 01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:46,000 Speaker 1: also really flaunting their lack of actual education in the 1744 01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:48,800 Speaker 1: sense that they don't even embrace that there should be 1745 01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:51,599 Speaker 1: an exchange of ideas on a college campus. For every 1746 01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:53,120 Speaker 1: one of those you see on video, there are many, 1747 01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:58,519 Speaker 1: many thousands at other schools who hold the same views, 1748 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,719 Speaker 1: maybe they just haven't aired them that way publicly, and 1749 01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,959 Speaker 1: they will graduate and they will get jobs in government, 1750 01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:10,400 Speaker 1: in media, in law, in you name it and they 1751 01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:13,880 Speaker 1: will take these ideas with them. Uh. This upcoming generation 1752 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:17,960 Speaker 1: ideologically is the most poisoned in this country, certainly since 1753 01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:22,000 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties and seventies. So we we need to 1754 01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:25,000 Speaker 1: be on guard for what's coming. It's not just at 1755 01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:30,040 Speaker 1: any one school. This is a widespread, a widespread leftist insanity. 1756 01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:33,479 Speaker 1: Our team with that, I'm gonna get get the sign 1757 01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:36,639 Speaker 1: off going here for today. Please do download the podcast. 1758 01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:40,960 Speaker 1: Go to buck Sexton with America now on iTunes, click subscribe. 1759 01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:43,960 Speaker 1: Favor I'd ask you is to share the show just 1760 01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,559 Speaker 1: one friend those of you listening. Next time you're emailing 1761 01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,840 Speaker 1: somebody sharing something with them on a get chat about 1762 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,280 Speaker 1: politics whatever, like, hey, check out this guy buck Sexton. 1763 01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:54,840 Speaker 1: Word of mouth is the best way for the show 1764 01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,519 Speaker 1: to grow. 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