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Speaker 2: I'm curious as to how you try to kind of

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Speaker 1: So I would go out to like writers' rounds and

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Speaker 2: When you're pursuing one of those, Like how do you

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Speaker 1: and so I start writing with publish writers. And but

439
00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,480
Speaker 1: I started writing with like a meeting with publishers. I

440
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,440
Speaker 1: guess around I was around my senior year of college,

441
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,160
Speaker 1: and I was so excited. I was like, oh my gosh,

442
00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,960
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get a publishing deal, and you know,

443
00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,400
Speaker 1: the kind of the world shut down.

444
00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,280
Speaker 2: But oh, that's when COVID.

445
00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,640
Speaker 1: That's when COVID hit and one of my friends from

446
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,240
Speaker 1: college had set me in to a program that ASCAP

447
00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,520
Speaker 1: had and he had submitted my songs because he had

448
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,240
Speaker 1: had them, and so they picked like eight writers that

449
00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,040
Speaker 1: year and they will get the meetings with publishing companies,

450
00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,879
Speaker 1: and so one of my friends did that for me

451
00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,800
Speaker 1: and uh, and so that's how I started having public meetings.

452
00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 2: Did you land a publishing deal?

453
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,480
Speaker 1: No, I didn't because twenty twenty it was a few

454
00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,520
Speaker 1: months later and I was having all these meetings and

455
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:09,920
Speaker 1: then we had to all go back home.

456
00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,280
Speaker 2: I guess you're right, like, no one is going to

457
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,200
Speaker 2: start anything new or spend any new money.

458
00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:14,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

459
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,800
Speaker 2: Once COVID happened, it.

460
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,680
Speaker 1: Was like the Yeah, the whole world shut down. And

461
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,679
Speaker 1: I just was like, I'm trying to graduate college at

462
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,280
Speaker 1: the same time and just trying to figure out what

463
00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:22,560
Speaker 1: to do.

464
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,880
Speaker 2: So I think I missed you on Idol by one season. Oh, no,

465
00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,280
Speaker 2: I was there for four years. I think you were

466
00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,679
Speaker 2: on after I went to NBC. I think it was

467
00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,760
Speaker 2: the next year. Yeah, it was it years season five,

468
00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,720
Speaker 2: do you know on ABC because.

469
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,760
Speaker 1: They called it like season twenty.

470
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but for us, they made us call it season

471
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,840
Speaker 2: five because it was ABC season or whatever it was. Yes,

472
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 2: I remember, I think you were the first season I

473
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 2: wasn't on, so I watched because I was really wanting

474
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,440
Speaker 2: to show the bomb and because I was gone and

475
00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,920
Speaker 2: you're awesome, Oh thank you, and that experience like being

476
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 2: in it because I was every episode for four years,

477
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 2: like I was there working with every contestant and it

478
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,679
Speaker 2: was really something at first that was very fulfilling to me.

479
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 2: And then it just became a TV show. Yeah, but

480
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 2: it's way different than it used to be, meaning like

481
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,720
Speaker 2: you're not bound anything. I don't know if you are,

482
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,240
Speaker 2: but they almost can't convince people to come on the

483
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,479
Speaker 2: show if they're like we own you after Like who

484
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 2: would go on anything at that point?

485
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure?

486
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 2: Why idol? Like what happened? Was that process?

487
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 1: So kind of what was happening during that time? It

488
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,280
Speaker 1: was I guess twenty we're stud we're doing Like the

489
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 1: zoom Zoom was still like really prevalent, but I had

490
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 1: had this show like ten minutes from my house and

491
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 1: I was just setting up my gear and it was

492
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 1: like right next to the bath of body works, Like

493
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 1: I was freaking crushing it. And this girl that I'd

494
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 1: met at the gym about three days three days prior,

495
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 1: because I'd joined a gym for free and invited everybody

496
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 1: was like hey, let come over. I'm like right across

497
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 1: the road and they came in and I got an

498
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: email about IDOL I guess the previous day. It's like,

499
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 1: you should audition. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna

500
00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 1: think about it.

501
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 2: How do they know you?

502
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 1: It was a lady named Leanne Falen had like said

503
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: that she was helping out, and she was like, hey,

504
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,640
Speaker 1: you should do this, and I was like okay, and

505
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 1: I was like, let me think about it. And then

506
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: the girl that I met the gym, she'd move from

507
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 1: California like a week ago and she used to be

508
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: a producer on IDOL, and she was like, hey, you

509
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 1: should audition. And I was like okay, two times in

510
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: two days, Like that's a sign. I'm going to go

511
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: for it. And I'd been praying for a sign for

512
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 1: the unrelated. They didn't know each other, they didn't know

513
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 1: each other at all, and I was like okay, God.

514
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 1: I was like like is this is this is the path?

515
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm all in and I'm just going to

516
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: see what happens. And I'd auditioned for all kinds of

517
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: talent shows like multiple times whenever I was younger, and

518
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 1: nothing ever worked, and so I was like, Okay, let's

519
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,919
Speaker 1: just give it a shot, and it completely want adied everything.

520
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: So did you audition on Zoom? Was it still Zoom auditioning?

521
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

522
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: We had to do a whole season on when COVID hit.

523
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: We had to do a whole season. It was awful.

524
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 1: That's that's so hard.

525
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,239
Speaker 2: Like I would be talking to on Zoom and then

526
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 2: they would have to like set up their own cameras,

527
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: like we they had to get them all their crap

528
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: and they had to set it up themselves.

529
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

530
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 2: It was. It was yeah, really rotten, but you actually

531
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: opened they'd opened up and you got to go back.

532
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: They did that. This season was the one where it

533
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: like we still had to be masked and everything. Uh,

534
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 1: but like whenever we were like filming, we could take

535
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 1: them off and stuff. We're still doing COVID tests.

536
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 2: Do you know you remember any of your producers? Like,

537
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: do you remember anybody that like ran you managed? You?

538
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: Annie was somebody I worked with a lot.

539
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: How'd you enjoy the experience.

540
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 1: Like it was just such like a learning experience being

541
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: on there and being out in California. I'd never been

542
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: out there, and just all the lots and the cameras,

543
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: and you know, it's kind of scary, uh at first

544
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: when you're just you're like, am I saying the right thing?

545
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: Like what what is this going to be like? And

546
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: I think nerve wracking, And it's kind of put you

547
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: in a situation where there's a melting pot of people

548
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: with so many different kinds of voices, and so I

549
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: feel like you compare yourself to each other a lot

550
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: because it's a competition and you can get to your head.

551
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: But for the most part, like I had a really

552
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 1: good time getting to be out there and learn, and

553
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: obviously sometimes it was really really.

554
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: Hard and no sleep. It's a factory, it's a TV show. Yeah.

555
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: I would work an interview like we would do this,

556
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: let's just say you and I do it for two hours,

557
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: and they would use a thirteen second clip sometimes, yes,

558
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: and you never know what the narrative is that's being

559
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 2: built about or around you. Yeah, you know, because they

560
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 2: have full control over it. How did you feel like

561
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: you represented on the show.

562
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: I feel like they got really close to who I

563
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: was as a person. And one of the main things

564
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: that was kind of in my story on the show is,

565
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, working with veterans, and that's something I've done

566
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: for a lot of my life, and getting to have

567
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: them whenever I came to my hometowns is just because

568
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: I never got to meet some of these people because

569
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: I'd started this Zoom class in twenty twenty writing songs

570
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: with vets, and this was my first time getting to

571
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: meet these people in person, and just getting to have

572
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: that experience and see those people and just being with

573
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: my hometown and those are things that I'll just never

574
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: forget because it's just everybody in the community came together

575
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: and had my back.

576
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: Did your Instagram follow and go way up?

577
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

578
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: Pretty cool?

579
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: Huh Oh, that was wild.

580
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: Like that's the real currency I've doing something like that now.

581
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: It's that it's building followers that will stay with you

582
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: after the show.

583
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I had like maybe like three thousand

584
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: or two thousand followers before the show started, and then

585
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: it just like after the audition, after like mine went

586
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: out on TV. It was just it was wild seeing

587
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: that happen because you never know if people are gonna

588
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: like you or not and you still never know though, because.

589
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 2: How far did you get runner up? You got runner up?

590
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 2: I got runner up. I didn't know you made it

591
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 2: to the very very very And did you think you

592
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: were gonna win?

593
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: I really I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know how

594
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: it was going to go.

595
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: I would just you stood there when you open when

596
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: Ryan opened the envelope. Yes, that is such a tense.

597
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: It's such a chance moment, just because it's a silent

598
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: when you're looking around ex and.

599
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: I love Ryan, I know Ryan.

600
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: It's like dot dot dot dot and I'm like, oh

601
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: my gosh, and like like I just didn't know how

602
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: it was going to go because I was so close

603
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: to everybody on the show and I was like, whatever happens,

604
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be okay. I'm gonna go back to

605
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: Nashville and I'm gonna start writing songs and doing the

606
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: thing again. And I think the hardest part was just

607
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: the like the silence and the lots and just looking

608
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: at my family. I think was hard just because they're crying,

609
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: like the whole finale, just like in general, just with

610
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: all the songs and.

611
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, so and I would tell the artist contestants. Some

612
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: were kids somewhere, young adults. I would go My thing

613
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: to them was just last on the show as long

614
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: as you can, doesn't matter if you win. Yeah, Like,

615
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 2: you got out of it the same thing that who won.

616
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: Noah Thompson, you.

617
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: Got out of the same he got out of it.

618
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: It's just just screen time. Yeah, can you get on

619
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: screen as much as possible to see if people connect,

620
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 2: And it's hard. It's also hard for people to connect

621
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: when you're doing covers, right, But that's what that show

622
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: is because they want familiarity, because people are watching and

623
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: they want to see familiar songs. But I would tell them, like,

624
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: it's it's sure, it's about winning, but it's not because

625
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: it's right now. Anytime you're on camera on screen, that's

626
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: like you being on a stage somewhere in the country,

627
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: but times ten thousand. Yeah, you're just winning people over eyeballs.

628
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: So the fact that you got to the very last performance,

629
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: that's the same thing as winning.

630
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I felt I felt like good about just

631
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: because I got I was really excited because they let

632
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: me play two originals while I was on there, and

633
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: they encouraged me to do one of them because I'd

634
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: sent it in the cover that week and then descend

635
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: in a song. I was like, hey, what do y'all

636
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: think of this? They're like, hey, do you want to

637
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: play it? And I was like yeah. So they let

638
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: me play a few originals while I was on the show,

639
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: which is really cool.

640
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: What was your favorite cover to play?

641
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: Oh? I think girl Crush by a Little Big Town.

642
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: I'd stayed up all not like trying to get the

643
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: arrangement right because we'd changed it so many times, and

644
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep before that performance. I was just and

645
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: also I was happy with how it went afterwards, but

646
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: I was about to cry myles out.

647
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: Did you ever get sick during the weeks?

648
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: Like?

649
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: I just kept drinking a lot of water. I did

650
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: feel bad a lot.

651
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: I think everybody at some point has to deal with

652
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: some sort of illness or being run down which drops

653
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: your immune system, so then you get sick. So at

654
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 2: some point and I would just be like, don't even

655
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: tell people, just suck it up and you feel a

656
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: lot worse than you sound. Generally when people would perform sick,

657
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: but everybody's so worried, but they'd be like, well, I'm sick.

658
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: I like, don't even say it. Just go out and

659
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 2: do your best because it's going to seem like you're

660
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: making an excuse. Yeah, but everybody gets sick on that show, yeah,

661
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: because they just run you. It's like boot camp for music.

662
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: It really really is.

663
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: What do you do when it's over? Like what's the

664
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 2: first thing when you finally get to come back.

665
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: It was wild because I flew home on my birthday

666
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: and after after the show?

667
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: Are you crushed because you didn't win?

668
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I think it was just the motion of

669
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: it all. Like I was so happy for him, and

670
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: like getting off the stage and I remember like us

671
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: walking back to the trailer and I saw my mom

672
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: and dad as I was walking, and I like, I

673
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: just hugged him and everything, and it was just they

674
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: were just like like everything's okay. I'm like, like I'm

675
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: not worried about it, Like it's all gonna be fine.

676
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: And then we packed up our stuff and hopped on

677
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: a plane and went to New York And that was

678
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: my first time in New York City.

679
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: What were you doing in New York press?

680
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: We're doing press. So I didn't have any sleep and

681
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: I had my makeup on from the finale mayor and

682
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: it was the same and just walked in and changing

683
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: the bathroom of the interviews.

684
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: Why'd you do anything cool? Any?

685
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did Good Morning America, which was so freaking

686
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: cool and Kelly and Rhan and so it was just

687
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: so neat getting to do that, and then immediately hopped

688
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: on a flight and didn't even know it was my

689
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: birthday and got back in the airport and I'm wearing

690
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: all my you know, finale gear, and people are coming

691
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: up and be like, oh my god, happy birthday. And

692
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think anybody would know, Like I know, we've

693
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: been in a bubble for so long, Like I don't

694
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna know me, and people are like coming up

695
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: and taking pictures, and that's when I realized things it'd

696
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: like changed.

697
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Why one word hunter girl? Why?

698
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 5: I know?

699
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: And I've heard the story. You know, you were the

700
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: only or whatever the version is, you were the only

701
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: uner in your class. It was a girl. But what

702
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: as a stage name and one word like all that

703
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: came together and you decided on it.

704
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: When why just because that's what everybody called me growing

705
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: up and my last name was walking Awski eleven letters

706
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: pretty rough, but I feel like that just part of me,

707
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: especially right now, and like, hey, hunter girl, Like, how

708
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: are you doing? That's what my Paul would call me.

709
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: And so whenever I come up on stage and have

710
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: the name that a lot of people called me when

711
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: I was growing up, it kind of always just reminds

712
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: me of home. That's how I feel when I think

713
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: of it.

714
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Did I don't say anything to you about just going

715
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: by one name? Weirdly? Were they like, are you sure

716
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 2: you want to do this?

717
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: Uh? Like I think somebody had like mentioned it. They're like,

718
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: do you want to do hunter walking Awski? And I

719
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: was like, I think I want to be think I'm

720
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna be hunter girl one word and they're like, that's cool.

721
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: People will remember it, and they were like, just go

722
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: for it.

723
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: People do remember. I remember going, oh, this girl's got

724
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: one name. I didn't even know what it was about.

725
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: I was like, this is cool, Like that's how I

726
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: was again. I was checking out the show I'd Adventures,

727
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: but you you never know who they're going to keep

728
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: on that show. I watched them edit people and like

729
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: two people in, but only to cut them out later,

730
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: but they'd already been eliminated, Like for for drama. So Hunter, though,

731
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: is your name? I remember asking I know the answer,

732
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: but I remember asking you this in the same way,

733
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: like what do I call you? Your friends call you that.

734
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: My friends call me hunter like my like my Paul

735
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: will still he still calls me hunter girl, just because

736
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: that's what he always did. But my friends call me

737
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: hunter and uh. But on stage, it's like I kind

738
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: of get to separate myself a little bit. It's like

739
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: the Hunters going home and enter Pj's. But whenever I'm

740
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: on stage, I get to be Hunter girl.

741
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: What I would like for you to go back and

742
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: talk about, just for a second, when you talk about

743
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 2: writing with the veterans, which is how you and I

744
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: ended up together that night we were doing some veterans

745
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: stuff that operate together. Yeah, explain like what that is.

746
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: So I started writing writing with veterans when I was

747
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: about seventeen.

748
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: And why why would you write with veterans?

749
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: My grandfa, my grandpa's in the service, and six of

750
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: my great uncles and I just got involved in. I

751
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: was just volunteering and singing songs for the people that

752
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: were writing the songs with the veterans. And so it's

753
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: always been something like meant a lot to me and

754
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: just seeing how much it like it affected my family too.

755
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: And basically what we do is we get in a

756
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: room with a veteran and we write their story about

757
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: whatever they want to talk about, whether it's like something

758
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 1: in the service or somebody they miss or anything. And

759
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of therapeutic in a way for them to

760
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: get to tell their story. And honestly, like, whenever I've

761
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: been in that room, it's like, you know, I'm lucky

762
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: enough to write a song every day, but this is

763
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: their first time that they get to feel that whatever.

764
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: Like it just makes me remember just like how good

765
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: songwriting is for the soul. And I've written with gold

766
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: Star kids and gold Star families and so I've been

767
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: doing that consistently since I was about seventeen and still

768
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: do it. I had one a few weeks ago.

769
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, when you finish Idol in that version that

770
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: season and you come back here, how do you get restarted?

771
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: And are there people now that are actually gonna take

772
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: your calls that didn't it before you left?

773
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I got back into town and You're like,

774
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't guaranteed to deal or anything. I was like,

775
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't really know what's gonna happen. And I was like,

776
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: I was little with my grandma before I got on

777
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: the show, and so I was like, Okay, I need

778
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: have like a place to live. Like I went back

779
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: home with my family for a while, and I was like,

780
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: but I got to get back because I already had

781
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: people wanting to write on that Monday, and I was like,

782
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: So I went home that weekend, saw my family. I

783
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: was like, I need to get an apartment. I'm gonna

784
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: say with grandma for a little bit, and I need

785
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: to write songs because I was like, I need to

786
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: put music out. And so I started writing songs on

787
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: like two days later and just hit the ground running.

788
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: And then I got a call because I had a

789
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: book and agent. That's the book and agent had picked

790
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: me up, and so they called and they were like, hey,

791
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: do you have a band, And I was like, yeah,

792
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: of course I have a band, like because they were like,

793
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: we have a show like next week, and I did

794
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: not have a band, and so I was pretty calling

795
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: my friends It's like, can you be my band please?

796
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: And so I just kind of just bootstrap and everything.

797
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: And later on that year I ended up getting signed

798
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: to Broken Bow and BMG for publishing, and which is

799
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: the place that I wanted to be since I got

800
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: to town.

801
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: That's really cool. Yeah, Tennessee Girl. Six songs, six songs, right, Yeah,

802
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, I think so too.

803
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: I think so.

804
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: I think pretty sure too. I'm pretty sure six songs.

805
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: It's a EP, so is it too? Is this just

806
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: because I think it came out this summer?

807
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Yes?

808
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: But is this is going to be part of a

809
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: larger project already working on something new now?

810
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: I think it'll be something new now. This was kind

811
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: of my first, like I would say, body of work

812
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: since Idle, and I really wanted to take my time,

813
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: like I put out a few singles, but I wanted

814
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: to figure out like who I was after the show

815
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: and get to kind of explore that more and what

816
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: I wanted my sound to be at that point. And

817
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: I think now working on new music and I've been

818
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: back in writing songs and getting to use my creative

819
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: brain since my touring has kind of coming to an

820
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: end at the end of the year.

821
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: It's so hard to use touring branding creative brain at

822
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: the same time. Oh, it's it's so hard do it.

823
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: I'm like Wow, good for you. Yeah, Like if I

824
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: was like writing a book or even writing funny, I

825
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: just it was hard for me to do one really well.

826
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: If I was trying to do the other, well, environment

827
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: that doesn't feel good, not comfortable. So that's cool. You're

828
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: back and you're now focused on writing. Who is the Like,

829
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: what was it? Give me the coolest show you did

830
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: this year? Well, in with this, all the cool shows

831
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: you got to do, with.

832
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: The coolest shows, I think the coolest show that I

833
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: got to do was in Guildford, New Hampshire with the

834
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: Louke Bryant tour, And that was like the coolest thing

835
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: that I've ever gotten to be a part of in

836
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: my life. Like, his team is so awesome and he's

837
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: obviously incredible, and my family got to come up and

838
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: they got to see that, and they got to talk

839
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: to Luke and got to hang out with the band

840
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: and got to sit side stage and just getting like

841
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 1: letting them like get to be a part of that

842
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: after all the work they've done was really cool.

843
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luca is a plus.

844
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah in everywhere he rocks. Like the food was incredible,

845
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: Luke good catering, Oh my god, the catering was so good.

846
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I was tired of beating gas station

847
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: jerky and the chips, and I was like, oh my god,

848
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: there's like tomato soup here.

849
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: That is a delicacy to people.

850
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: All I know and is that.

851
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys, follow Hunter Girl music, check out Tennessee Girl,

852
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: anything on when when's anything new coming out? You know,

853
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: there didn't have to be a date. But what are

854
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: you hoping for?

855
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: Dot dot dot?

856
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: Uh?

857
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: But I would out hope by like started next year.

858
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: Cool.

859
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: I'd say, well, thank you for the time.

860
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: Thank you.

861
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like you're you're just generally good at this

862
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: type thing.

863
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. I like, I just like talking. I

864
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: never shut up, I think, And.

865
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: That's a big part of it. I mean it really is.

866
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: But also we have something to say when you do it.

867
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: Like I remember telling you, like, hey, you're really good

868
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: at this is the right carpet? Like I think you

869
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: know you're really good. You're a really good singer. I

870
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: have no idea good if a songwriter you are, because

871
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't I've never sign a room with you. Yeah,

872
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're fine, are good or great or terrible?

873
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: I don't know that part, but I can tell you

874
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: if you're a great singer and you're really good at this. Oh,

875
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: thank you, so like do this too. I would love

876
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: to do this somehow, like be a be a person,

877
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: be because you have a really magnetic personality. You're really

878
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: warm and likable.

879
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: Thank you.

880
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you and you speak with a bit of

881
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: authority on yourself where it feels like you're confident but

882
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,040
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883
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,760
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884
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885
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Speaker 2: really really bright future ahead.

886
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

887
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: So congratulations in the music part. You're really good at

888
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Speaker 2: this part, which is annoying to me. It took me

889
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890
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd love that. Thank you so much.

891
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,000
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892
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: Also, thank you for that book because I read it?

893
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: What the fail until you don't you read that book?

894
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 6: Yeah?

895
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I read the book? Yeah? Why because because like i'd

896
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Speaker 1: watch like, all y'all you really read that. I read

897
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: the book.

898
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess that's like the biggest compliments ago

899
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Speaker 2: now possibly good? No, thank you, Wow, I appreciate it.

900
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Speaker 1: Thanks helped me through some rough stuff.

901
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: If you're lying, who cares? Don't know?

902
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: I think you promise I wouldn't lie.

903
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. I want to do just to do it well.

904
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: And I wasn't complimenting you because I knew that either. No,

905
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: but you know you're awesome and I'm sure I will

906
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,160
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909
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:38,680
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911
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: Did you see the list of the greatest pop Stars

912
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 2: of the twenty first century? Because if so, I can't

913
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: ask you these questions, but we can talk about it.

914
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: No, I don't think I saw a list on that.

915
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: So it's from two thousand and one in Billboard and

916
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: it ended up being a bit controversial. But they want

917
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: controversy in these lists because this is how to get

918
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: people to click and talk about it. I mean, if

919
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: you put out a universal US that everybody agreed with,

920
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: people would look how to go Yeah, cool, cool, move on,

921
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: keep on scrolling. But they did put out the greatest

922
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: pop stars, and I have the top twenty five of

923
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: the two thousands to today.

924
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 4: Okay, so.

925
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm not gonna ask you to try to

926
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: name every one, but who do you think for sure

927
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: makes the list? Taylor Swift, so correct, she's in the

928
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: top five. And I won't tell you exactly where Beyonce

929
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: same in the top five. So you've nailed You've nailed

930
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: the top two.

931
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, what order would you.

932
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: Put that in?

933
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: I would put Taylor first and then Beyonce.

934
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: Every normal human in the whole world would Billboard did not.

935
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: I saw that that. I thought, Yeah, Taylor is easy.

936
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 2: Taylor's easily number one. Yes, and Beyonce is easily number two,

937
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: easily like Rick. But Taylor's selling football stadiums. I mean,

938
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: if you just look at all the data, it's easily

939
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. But again, if you put Taylor at two,

940
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: it creates all the headlines and all the stories, and

941
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: right you get all the seeing people like us talking

942
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: about it. So they have Beyonce at one Taylor at two.

943
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: I think any normal rational person would have flipped them around.

944
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: Even if you're a massive Beyonce fan, I still think

945
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: you go, let's be honest, Taylor is one. Taylor is

946
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: the most famous person maybe in our lifetime.

947
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: Oh, I completely agree, She's our Elvis.

948
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm talking about more than just music though, Like Donald

949
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: Trump is probably there, but I think Taylor, there's probably

950
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: three or four people. You could have the debate. I

951
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: think Taylor's probably the most famous person of our lifetime.

952
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: I always love to gauge it on, like do my

953
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: parents know Taylor Swift?

954
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: And it's tough because like Barack Obama would be on

955
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: the list now he's a president, but there's like I

956
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: don't think Joe Biden is one of the most famous

957
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: people of our lifetime. Oh, and just being a president

958
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: doesn't make you famous, like culturally, there has to be

959
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: something about you as well. Yeah, so their lists Beyonce one,

960
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: Taylor too, he gets tricky. There are a lot and

961
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: you don't have to get three. I just put people

962
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: on the list.

963
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think we have to go us

964
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 4: in Timberlake.

965
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: Right, justin Temple Lacks at fourteen. Now, I don't know

966
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: that I would have got to him so quick, but

967
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: two thousands, I guess was coming out of the boy

968
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 2: band era of the nineties early two thousands.

969
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: Okay, and bringing sexy back. He dominated, and then he

970
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 4: kind of just slowly kind of disappeared a little bit

971
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: while other people took the spotlight. But for a minute there,

972
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 4: justin Timberlake was the dude.

973
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah for a minute, but a lot of that was

974
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: nineties into early two thousands. Okay, but he's at fourteen.

975
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: Go ahead, So.

976
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Brittany too. Britney spears. Since it's two thousands,

977
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: on it's six.

978
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: Now, Brittany would probably be the second most famous pop

979
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: star of our life, and Beyonce probably third famous. Beyonce

980
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: bigger than Brittany for sure in the past twenty years.

981
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: But Brittany's at six. Just any pop star you think

982
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: it makes the list? Rihanna at number three? Rihanna?

983
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: Wow, she got number three. Yeah, that's cool. Let's see.

984
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: Let's see. I'm gonna stick back to like the early

985
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: early years. So let me go Christina Aguile.

986
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet no chance. But she's I mean, she's

987
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: been quite irrelevant for a while. Let me look, she

988
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: did not make the list.

989
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 4: Okay, she get no list.

990
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: I think part of Brittany's lasting is that she just

991
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: stayed famous.

992
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, even in headlines you're just famous.

993
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get two more strikes. Now, when I say

994
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: pop star, it can be anybody that got extremely popular.

995
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: Okay, not just musicians.

996
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 2: No, no, that is a pop star. But I'm saying

997
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: if they were in the pop format. There's a lot

998
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: of genres in the pop format. Harry Styles, surely he's

999
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: on here. Let me look, he's got to be on there.

1000
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: I don't think he's on here. Strike two pretty well, Mike,

1001
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: would you? I don't know that I count one direction

1002
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: in Harry Style. I think. I also think Eddie's a

1003
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: little old for this list, But I wondered who he was.

1004
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 4: I was going to get there. I was going to

1005
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: get there too with some of the younger kids.

1006
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: No see if you even call them kids and they're

1007
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: like thirty years old. So I can't give you one direction.

1008
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: But one direction didn't make the list.

1009
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 4: Quick, okay. Ariana Grande, for sure, she.

1010
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: Made it at nine. So far you've gotten three, four, five,

1011
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: you've getten six out of twenty five.

1012
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: Olivia Rodrigo probably a.

1013
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: Little too young. If I if I'm getting oh my gosh, yeah,

1014
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

1015
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 6: Go too young.

1016
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: I try to go too cool.

1017
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: Rina Carpenter this upcoming artist you don't know of yet

1018
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: called x X one. Uh no, no, is that three strikes?

1019
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: That's three?

1020
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's three. Hey, Abby, put Abby's headphones on. It'd

1021
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: be interesting to do this. That's what Abby can do.

1022
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: What hey, hey, we're recording this segment here with Eddie.

1023
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: And have you seen the list of Billboard's Greatest Pop Stars?

1024
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 6: No? I haven't.

1025
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: Okay, they're twenty five. It's Billboard's greatest pop Stars since

1026
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: the year two thousand. Oh dang, Eddie, before he got

1027
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: three strikes? He got six, right, not very many, so

1028
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: greatest pop. So all I'm gonna say is Billboard put

1029
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: the list out of greatest pop stars of the twenty

1030
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: first century, so of two thousand on.

1031
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, it's it's a.

1032
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 2: Lot, but it should be. Also, it's pretty wide net

1033
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: to be pretty easy. Top twenty five. How many can

1034
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: you name before you get three strikes?

1035
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 6: Go ahead, let's see Beyonce.

1036
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Beyonce is boom? Go ahead.

1037
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 6: Taylor Swift too good, that's two, justin Timberlake.

1038
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: Three, that's my order. Olivia Rodrigo too young? Yeah, really well,

1039
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: only because she hasn't been around long enough that's true. Yeah,

1040
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 2: so you've got three and you get one strike.

1041
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 6: This is hard Bruno Mars.

1042
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: Correct number two?

1043
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: Good?

1044
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 2: Number twenty is Bruno Mars really? Okay, it's four.

1045
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: Gosh, I was gonna say, Michael Jackson, that's a little

1046
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 5: too early.

1047
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: Right, I'm not answering your question for you to guess it.

1048
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: So if you say it, that's gonna be an X

1049
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: or not an X. But since the year two thousand.

1050
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 5: No, no, not him two thousand. Yeah, Michael Jackson, No, no.

1051
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: No, no, I'm over here.

1052
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: You're gonna you're gonna lose daddy.

1053
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 6: Okay, see one more striking a pop artist. This shouldn't

1054
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 6: be that hard. No, and you're Britney Spears.

1055
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: Correct, stand by, I know Britney's on here. She's as six, one, two, three,

1056
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: You need one more just to win. Christina Aguilar, No,

1057
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: that Eddie said that too, No, because she really didn't

1058
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: do much in the two thousands, like she had her

1059
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 2: hits in the nineties, a little bit in the early

1060
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: two thousands.

1061
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: And take it back, take it back, bones. I'm not

1062
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: too old for this list.

1063
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you're too old.

1064
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 6: Ivy suck.

1065
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1066
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: When I read these you guys are gonna be like duh.

1067
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 4: I thought, well she was guessing. I thought Usher is usher.

1068
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: On there hush ushers eleven. Yeah, so you have Katy

1069
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: Perry of course yeah, dang ed Sheeran, Yes, where it

1070
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 2: hurts someone like you. Eddie is like the biggest streamer

1071
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: in the world. Is this person? And you would have

1072
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: never guessed him. He's always top three sometimes some.

1073
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: Years biggest streamer.

1074
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's his song stream more than anybody else's and

1075
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: sometimes some years he's number one, some years he's top three.

1076
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: But you would never guess this person. And I think

1077
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: it's an age thing.

1078
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: Let's see who is it. I'm asking if you, oh,

1079
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: I have no club biggest streamer.

1080
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: If I say biggest streamer, but I bet you don't

1081
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: know a single one of their songs.

1082
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 6: Oh really, you.

1083
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: Would know who they are because they've been in pop

1084
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: culture news. They've even dated somebody very famous, and you

1085
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: might know their song, but you might know a song

1086
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: or two. I don't know. Eddie doesn't. There's no chance

1087
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't know a song.

1088
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1089
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: I can't I don't know a song.

1090
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 4: Is it Machine Gun Kelly?

1091
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 2: It is not Mi do you know what I'm talking about?

1092
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: Yep?

1093
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 2: Do you have the list or you just know I

1094
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: have the list? And so listen to this artist.

1095
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: Okay, you listen to this artist.

1096
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: Post alone, Bad Bunny, Oh Bad, Buddy one, Direction twenty two,

1097
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 2: twenty one, law Wayne twenty, Bruno Mars nineteen, BTS, Oh

1098
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: God to go K Pop on that one. Think about

1099
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: those guys edy you wouldn't another one though, that is

1100
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: usually up in that string. And he may be the

1101
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: most streamed artist of all time, but I think one

1102
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: of his songs is the most stream song is the Weekend.

1103
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I think about super Bowl players too, right.

1104
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we just saw him too at iHeart.

1105
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: He was good, we did. I don't think. I don't

1106
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: think I saw.

1107
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: He was on this platform almost like he was the

1108
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: king of all of these people. And it must have

1109
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 4: been like, I don't know, seventy people like just all

1110
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 4: in robes under him.

1111
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Small kingdom.

1112
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is kingdom of seventy. It was weird,

1113
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: but he did the whole show from the very very top.

1114
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: Never moved.

1115
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: That happened at iHeart.

1116
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the last It was like the closer.

1117
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 4: So you must have left early.

1118
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: Oh, I never say for the closer, I'm tired, it's

1119
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: the last, especially if it's a Friday show. I'm dead tired. Yeah, Shakira,

1120
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: jay Z, Miley Cyrus, Dang Miley, Oh my gosh, Justin Timberlake,

1121
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj, Yeah, she was big, eminem I sure, Adele.

1122
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 6: Okay, I did bad.

1123
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: I we both did. It's all good.

1124
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, how did we do so bad?

1125
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: Those are really obvious, actually, Ariana Grande. Justin Bieber Bieber,

1126
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: which the big controversy. The story that came out was

1127
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: Hailey Bieber was mad because they put Justin Bieber at eight,

1128
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: and I think I would have put Justin Bieber above eight.

1129
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: I think when you read the list back, I tell

1130
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 2: you where I put him with Kanye's at seven, Brittany's

1131
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: at six, guy guys at five, Drakes at four. You

1132
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: guys didn't hit Drake at all.

1133
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 6: He did in.

1134
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: The Rihanna at three, Taylor Swift at two, Beyonce at one.

1135
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: I think I would have put Bieber at three or

1136
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: four when it comes to just overall pop.

1137
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 4: Stars, and Beyonce did make one on this list.

1138
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: Beyonce was one, yeah, which I think everybody except the

1139
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: person who made the list thought it should have been

1140
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift. Yeah, so, but I think Bieber the the Rihanna,

1141
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: Drake three and four those could be flipped around, but

1142
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: I think Bieber could also jump both of them.

1143
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 4: I would move Drake. I'd put Bieber in Drake.

1144
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: Spot you put Bieber behind Rihanna. No, no, because it

1145
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: was it was Taylor, No, Rihanna then Drake.

1146
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 4: I mean it was Beyonce, Taylor, Rihanna, Drake. Yeah, so

1147
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 4: I would go beyond Beyonce in this list or whatever, Taylor.

1148
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 4: I would swip them, swap them, Taylor, Beyonce, Rihanna, then Bieber, Bieber, Drake.

1149
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: I think I would go Taylor, Beyonce, Bieber, Drake. Yeah,

1150
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: Justin Bieber has also been so famous, right, He's had songs,

1151
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: but he's also been so not. The Realne is not obviously,

1152
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: and she's had a beauty line. And you're arguing about

1153
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: the most famous, most successful people ever. But I'm talking

1154
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: about like Bieber has been a pop culture staple, like new.

1155
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: Staple topic conversation.

1156
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I've turned your mic out there screaming

1157
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: in the background, which he just can't walk down the

1158
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: hall and not yell, oh my God, to turn your

1159
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: micro first.

1160
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 4: We had a c problem. Now we have lunchbox.

1161
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 2: I just like walking down. Yeah, Hayley Bieber, she says

1162
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: Billboard is a joke for putting Justin at number eight

1163
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: on their list of greatest pop Stars of the twenty

1164
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: first century.

1165
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 4: No, Haley, Billboard's a joke for putting Beyonce over Taylor Swift.

1166
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: That's what I would say.

1167
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 2: Well, when the article with Bieber came out, and Hailey Bieber,

1168
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: they haven't announced two and one yet because they announced

1169
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: them slowly, like this week they do four to three.

1170
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: We just waited for the whole list to be out,

1171
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: got it? But yeah, there you go. I didn't I

1172
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: wonder if well, no, if I like quiz my wife,

1173
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: I bet she would get.

1174
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 4: Like twelve Oh yeah, she would dominate this.

1175
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: She's also twelve years younger.

1176
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 4: But the fact that you got Abby in here made

1177
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: me feel a lot better about myself.

1178
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: Why Abby starts to get nervous. It wasn't even like

1179
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 2: she's not even playing a game, really, and she starts

1180
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: to get nervous and any the village people. Singer denies

1181
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: that YMCA is a gay anthem I saw this, I

1182
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: always thought it was a gay song and I loved it.

1183
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: And another thing he said that surprised me. He said

1184
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 4: that they weren't all gay. I thought that all the

1185
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 4: village people, that's they were gay. And he said, I'm

1186
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 4: not gay, and my co writers were gay, but I'm not.

1187
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought they were all gay too, which is

1188
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 2: why I thought that it was a gay anthem, which

1189
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: I never even it wasn't like every time I played

1190
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, here's my favorite gay anthem. Right,

1191
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about it being that. I just

1192
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: thought the village people are gay and this is like

1193
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: a song they play at like gay bars. And then

1194
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 2: sports picked it up. Sure, didn't really no, didn't really care. Yeah,

1195
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: and I definitely thought, yes, yes, Like every time you

1196
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: listen to it, you're like, god, song, so good, and I

1197
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: don't think, Wow, this is a gay anthem.

1198
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: No, I don't think it either.

1199
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: But I did think it was a gay anthem mish

1200
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: type song.

1201
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 4: And then you watch like them perform it, and you

1202
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 4: got the cop without the shirt and this, you know,

1203
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: like all that you're just like, oh, okay, got it.

1204
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 2: Maybe that was like seventy you know, but I was

1205
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: surprised by that me too, from consequence, which is that

1206
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: the story we took us from. As for the idea

1207
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: that YMCA somehow a gay anthem, Willis said, that is

1208
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: a false assumption based on the fact that my writing

1209
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: partner was gay and some not all, the village people

1210
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 2: were gay. That the first Village People album was totally

1211
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: about gay life. So I could see where if people

1212
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: had like a universal feeling the whole album was, that

1213
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: that song would be and if they thought the whole

1214
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: band was and the album was.

1215
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like if a band comes out

1216
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 4: and their first album is all Christian, you assume they're

1217
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: a Christian band.

1218
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: Or or all the other music. Yeah, if they have

1219
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 2: like eight songs, if they're all Christians and most songs

1220
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: on the album are Christian music and there's two that

1221
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: are like secular, assume there are also Christians on great right, Yeah,

1222
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: I know. I was surprised by this story.

1223
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 4: Very interesting.

1224
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: The assumption is also based on the fact that the

1225
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: YMCA was apparently being used as some sort of gay hangout,

1226
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: and since one of the writers was gay and some

1227
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: of the village people are gay, the song must be

1228
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 2: a message to gay people. And it also says young

1229
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 2: man and never young woman. Correct, but also that doesn't

1230
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: sound as good.

1231
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: And Mike did think it said.

1232
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: Yo man, yo mann. You did think it was young man?

1233
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: Was yo man?

1234
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: Just learns of them.

1235
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: As I stated on numerous occasions, I knew nothing about

1236
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 2: the y being hangout for gay's and I wrote the

1237
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: lyrics to ym and Jacques Moraley, who was gay, never

1238
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 2: once dated such to me. What if Jacques really knew

1239
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: and he just got the other guy to write it.

1240
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 4: Well, I'll be honest, Like I grew up in South Texas,

1241
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: we didn't have YMCA, so the first time I saw YMCA,

1242
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: I automatically assumed this was.

1243
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: The place where the gay people were gay hang out

1244
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: because of the song. Well, we had YMCA's in Arkansas

1245
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: and my aunt was a member because it was a

1246
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: members membership fe we couldnt afford it, but I was

1247
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: thought it was so cool because that swimming pool and

1248
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 2: I remember going and going this is nothing like the song.

1249
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: I remember. It was like young male Christian young men.

1250
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: I remember what, Yeah.

1251
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 4: Association, Yeah something like that.

1252
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So and.

1253
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: It's just people work out and swim there. Literally, that's

1254
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: what they do.

1255
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: I therefore wrote YMCA about the things I knew about

1256
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: the y and urban areas San Francisco, a swimming baseball track,

1257
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: and cheap food and cheap rooms. And when I say

1258
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: hang out with all the boys, which it does say

1259
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 2: in the song, because hang out with all the boys, right, Yeah, Yeah,

1260
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: that's the all I'm thinking about. It's simply nineteen seventies

1261
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: black slang for black guys hanging out together, sports, gambling

1262
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: or whatever. There's nothing gay about that. Yeah, my mom

1263
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: is blown me too. I don't like the song any

1264
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: better or any worse because it was a gay anthem

1265
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: and it's still a jam. Yeah, and anywhere wedding sports

1266
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: is it? Is it on the movie Sing?

1267
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: Do you remember that? Because Mike, I always think that

1268
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: if my kids are walking around the house singing classic songs,

1269
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 4: they got it from a cartoon. Now.

1270
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: I've only seen sing once, Okay, so maybe they do

1271
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: it in two. I don't know, and I've watched I

1272
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. I've only seen it once,

1273
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: but I do know the songs from Singing that I

1274
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: do know are and it is gotful stuff, Johnny. Yeah,

1275
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: and then still standing that one, and then in Sing two,

1276
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 2: when Bono comes out as the big Lion, they do uh,

1277
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: they do it. They do a youtwo song. I still

1278
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: haven't found what I like.

1279
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 4: That part's so cool.

1280
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: I do remember it being indespicable of me too, where

1281
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: the minions did it? Okay, maybe that's it because I

1282
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: don't remember it from that, but i'd never seen sing

1283
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: and my nephews like two and A Thanksgiving. They don't

1284
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: give him a lot of screen time, but when they do,

1285
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: he's like, oh my god, I get to watch the show.

1286
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: He's like, and he sits down and focuses on the

1287
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: TV like he can be run around screaming. And they're like,

1288
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: you want to watch Sing And it's like, what's.

1289
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 4: Going to be crazy and you're going to see this

1290
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: at some point with him? Is that you give him

1291
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 4: a phone. He'll know how to navigate through the phone.

1292
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 4: At two years old. He'll know swipe left, click that,

1293
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: get that out of here, like all of those conveniands.

1294
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: It's so easy that, like, really a two year old

1295
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 4: can do it.

1296
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: What I thought was fun about Singing though, is I

1297
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,479
Speaker 2: knew the songs right, but I wasn't trying to find

1298
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: out who was the voice so I would try to

1299
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: identify them when they would start to sing songs. Because how'

1300
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: about to know Tory Kelly's voice when she's doing the pic? Sure,

1301
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: because she was a pig, right, she was the pig.

1302
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: She was something. Yeah, probably the pig. I've only seen

1303
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: him once. There was a pig, right, Yeah, there's.

1304
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 4: A pig, the pig. No, she's not a moment like

1305
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 4: a bunch of piggies.

1306
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: Because the pig would like go and sneak off and

1307
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: like sing by herself because she was shy, and the

1308
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: pig ended up like having a crush on another pig.

1309
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: Tory Kelly was the elephant.

1310
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 2: That's what I mean, the elephant.

1311
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 4: Elephant's pink though, No, so who's Jennifer Hudson?

1312
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: Hold on, I need to get my fact straight here,

1313
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: because she would put the Tory Kelly would, I think,

1314
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: put the headphones on and go on top of the

1315
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: hill and sing by herselfers, Yeah, that was it, right,

1316
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: I remember that part. Okay, maybe my color is just

1317
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: not right.

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00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 4: And I think she's a mom because isn't that part

1319
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: of her problem that she like has all these kids.

1320
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: Now I'm not going to know the answer. Again, I've

1321
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: seen it once and I really wasn't dialed in at

1322
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: first until the song started playing because I was like, well,

1323
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to watch that. I actually I was

1324
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: a little bitter. I had to sit through a Thanksgiving

1325
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: when there's football on because I'm watching it on my phone.

1326
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 4: Now, okay, let's see you got Johnny.

1327
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: Is Johnny is that? I didn't. I don't know him

1328
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: as an actor, but it's like Trevin mcclach was, Yeah,

1329
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: whoever that is? I don't know who that is?

1330
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 4: And then Mina who's the elephant? Is Tory Kelly with

1331
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 4: the headphones?

1332
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: What color is she? Pink?

1333
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 4: Yeah? Kind of just pinkish gray.

1334
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

1335
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 4: Scarlett Johansson is the part.

1336
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: That's the one that I could not get because she's

1337
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: an old rocker. She plays a guitar. She wants to

1338
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: be a rocker.

1339
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 4: And the pig is Rosita and she is Reese Witherspoon.

1340
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember the pig. I was thinking of the elephant.

1341
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 2: I remember the pig, but I remember rees Worth of spoke.

1342
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: It's sang really good.

1343
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 4: Jennifer Hudson is what is that a yak? Yeah? I

1344
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 4: think she's a yak.

1345
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, anyway, as you can tell, it's a great movie.

1346
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 5: Though.

1347
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: Man, I had a good time watching it. When I

1348
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: looked up when the music was on, I'm so glad

1349
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: you watched I'm Big Johnny guy though.

1350
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: Cool and that was in jail.

1351
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: He was like, and then he rips out of jail

1352
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: so easily. He just rips the wall off and like

1353
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: jumps off the buses and stuff.

1354
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, dude. It's so cool to

1355
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 4: like have the kids learn new music through these movies

1356
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,479
Speaker 4: because you know there's people like us making these movies.

1357
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 4: Or old music, that's what I mean, like old classic

1358
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 4: songs because like my kids walk around the house singing

1359
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 4: and classic songs like how do you know that song?

1360
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 4: Like Death Leppard? Oh it's on the Avatar movie. Oh

1361
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 4: love it.

1362
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 8: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

1363
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 8: Bobby Cast.

1364
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: A similar and not really kids, but like there'll be

1365
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: music from when we were young, like to not like

1366
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: nineties rock stuff like the Strokes, yes, some Foo Fighters,

1367
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: some stuff like that, and it'll come on or even

1368
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: like MGMT Feel Dun and my wife will know it,

1369
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 2: know every word to it, and she'll I'm like, how

1370
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: do you know that? She's like guitar hero right, rock band,

1371
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, she goes, I wouldn't know those songs,

1372
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: but like her families to gather around and play the

1373
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 2: play rock band. Yea, the drums, Ione have the things?

1374
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: Is Amy here? Can you come in? I want to

1375
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 2: quizer on this list. If she hasn't seen it, nomn

1376
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: got your need? Did you see the video of them

1377
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: from MGMT from when they were like in college, Mike,

1378
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: you've seen it recently? It's going viral again. Oh yeah.

1379
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: They look like Eddie and I being raging idiots playing

1380
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: from a little keyboard and they're just jump around on extend

1381
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: with twelve people watching, and they're playing that song that

1382
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: it's not you know.

1383
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 4: It's it's massive.

1384
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh kids, the same album, but not the same.

1385
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: It's a great album.

1386
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: They were called The Management at the time. They were

1387
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: called the Management, yes, not MGMT. I think later it

1388
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: turned to the MGMT, right, Mike, Yeah, because there was

1389
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,959
Speaker 2: already a band called The Management. Yeah, Amy, quick quest

1390
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: for you Billboard's Greatest Pop Stars of the twenty first century,

1391
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,959
Speaker 2: which is the year two thousand and nine, and Eddie

1392
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: went first and he only got six Abby then went

1393
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: and he got very nervous for no reason because there's

1394
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: nothing on the line, So and only got six. I'll

1395
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: give I'll give you other rules. So what it's going

1396
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: to be is from the year two thousand on. You

1397
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: only get three strikes the year two thousand on the

1398
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: Biggest pop Stars period So you're looking for well, I

1399
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: don't want to give you too much, but that's all

1400
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: I told them as well.

1401
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask if they if they broke through

1402
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: in the nineties, they do not count.

1403
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: No, I didn't say that. I can't answer that question.

1404
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: So it's just from the year two thousand on the

1405
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: biggest pop Stars of period one through twenty five? How

1406
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: many can you get?

1407
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: And you're on Taylor Swift correct, Rihanna correct, Beyonce correct,

1408
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 3: Justin Bieber correct, it's four.

1409
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: Brittany Spencer, you mean Britney spears.

1410
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 4: No, she said, Spencer, I have Britney.

1411
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 6: I love Ridey Spencer. I have spears written on my

1412
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 6: paper right here.

1413
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 4: I can't give that to her.

1414
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: B spears written down to me. I have down.

1415
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: Don't give it to Abby, she said.

1416
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 6: It was confidence fair enough.

1417
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: We know what you meant. We would have to give

1418
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: you a strike your o, you get one strike, but

1419
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: you get the Briddy spears. Go ahead, Katy Perry boom

1420
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: got so far you have six? Go ahead?

1421
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: Dozen?

1422
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: Timber Lake seven?

1423
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 6: Uh, jay Z.

1424
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: Eight, she's good. Drake nine, you're not You're not timed,

1425
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 4: you're good?

1426
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 6: Oh we're not well. No, No, I wouldn't have said Spencer.

1427
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: I never said your time, though.

1428
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: I guess I just you know, feel the pressure of

1429
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 3: being timed.

1430
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: Go ahead. So it's pop Pop Pop Billboard's Greatest Pop

1431
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: Stars of the twenty first century. So two thousand and one,

1432
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: and you have one too.

1433
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 3: Oh, Ariana ten?

1434
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: Go ahead? Uh? Selena Gomes, Oh that's a good guess

1435
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: as No, she didn't make it as a pop star, okay,

1436
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: Sabrina Carpenter, No, too young, too new? Sorry, what is

1437
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: the decades? Two thousands? But spinder Cart has been famous

1438
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: for two years?

1439
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: Right, still two thousand, it's still two thousand.

1440
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're talking about the most famous from the

1441
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: last twenty years. So anyway, you killed them, are you done?

1442
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 6: I could have kept going cool.

1443
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: Let's say you let's say you didn't miss Britney Spencer,

1444
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: so you would have had one more strike.

1445
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 6: Christine Aguilera.

1446
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: No, she'd make it. They both guessed her too. Now

1447
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: she'd lost fame in like our songs like two thousand,

1448
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: we all guess her three or four or something. Uh yeah,

1449
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: I read this list to them. But ed Sheeran, Yeah,

1450
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: Bad Bunny, Lol, Wayne Bts the Weekend Miley cyrus NICKI

1451
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: minaj Adele Adele would have been a big one.

1452
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 4: Bad Bunny's tough because I mean he is massive all

1453
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: over the world.

1454
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: Also dated Kardashian, but I still won.

1455
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they saw you dominated how mad she get?

1456
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 6: Like I was.

1457
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: You know what I was doing. I was trying to

1458
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 3: think that more. I was just thinking, that's almost one hundred.

1459
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 2: It was doubled.

1460
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: You about what I was thinking back to, like twenty

1461
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: ten when I used to do two hour show after

1462
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 3: the Bobby Bone Show, and I was thinking of every

1463
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 3: artist we played.

1464
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: Eddie guests like Lionel Ritchie.

1465
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 4: No, I did not.

1466
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 2: Nellie Vanilli. You were like, dude, you need.

1467
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 6: To get when we were pop because we were pop.

1468
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: They guess Olivia Rodrigo, but again too not enough of

1469
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 2: a sample size, like three years.

1470
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 4: I get it now, I guess Michael Jackson.

1471
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: She did get Michael Jackson.

1472
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 6: Okay, and that would be the biggest of all time.

1473
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: Addie Abby also had a freak out too that she

1474
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: thought she if she lost, she was going to get like.

1475
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 6: I feel the pressure.

1476
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: There was no pressure. It was literally, Hey, we'd be curious.

1477
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: We'd be curious to know what you think, not tell

1478
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: us what you think or die.

1479
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 6: I wanted to be Eddie to be.

1480
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: Or be first.

1481
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you guys, Thank you guys for listening to

1482
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: the Bobby Cast. But if you don't mind if you

1483
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: go give us a little review, that would be cool

1484
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: and like moves us up the algorithm. If you don't

1485
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: mind sharing it on your Instagram story, like, hey, this

1486
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: was a great episode and tag me.

1487
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 4: That would be grea.

1488
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: I'd love to see it and and hit you back

1489
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: with the heart or something. All that matters and growths

1490
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: of podcasts. So if you guys don't mind doing that, that

1491
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: will be awesome. Thank you very much and I hope

1492
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: you guys have a good rest of the week.

1493
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 7: By everybody, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production