1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: With a regard what is your title journalist chicken journalists, 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: I would say, just like tea, I would just say hosts, 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: and I would just say host host. I know, I'm 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: a host. 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm a host. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Let's say, how did you get into hosting? 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 3: So I did go to college for broadcast journalism. I 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: went to the University of Illinois, and then after that 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: I had a job as a copywriter. But I always 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: kind of wanted to keep my eye of the tiger, 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: you know. I was like working this job working with 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: older ladies you know that are moms, and like, you know, 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: it just didn't feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: to be doing. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: So I'd always take freelance ladies. 16 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 17 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: It was just like I'd have nothing in common with 18 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: anyone around me. Like I wasn't a younger, you know 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: what I mean. 20 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: It was like very you were with a dustier generation. 21 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 22 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: So it just didn't feel like I was doing what 23 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: I was supposed to be doing at that time. So 24 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: I would take any this is a Chicago yeah, And 25 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: I would take any freelance magazine sort of project that 26 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: I could get. 27 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. As a journalist. 28 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of times they'd want to do print 29 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: print exactly. So they'd want to, you know, if there 30 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: was like an interview with a player on Chicago Bulls 31 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: or a chef in Chicago or whatever, and they'd want 32 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: to put it in print, they could outsource kind of 33 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: like a boots on the ground person to do that. 34 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: So I would be grant Derek Grose actually Eric Yeah, okay. 35 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: And then in twenty fourteen, there was an All Star 36 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: Weekend in New Orleans and I was doing all these 37 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: interviews that were supposed to be in print or you know, 38 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: on digital or in the magazine. And back then every 39 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: magazine turned into like a YouTube channel, so they were like, 40 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: can we put these interviews on camera just because we 41 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: literally just need to put videos on the channel. 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: And I was like sure. 43 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: You know, like at that time in my life, if 44 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: I had a two Chains interview on YouTube, that'd be 45 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: like the best thing that's ever happened in my whole 46 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: pathetic career, you know. So I was like, please do it, 47 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: and I kind of thought it would be a one off. 48 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: Did that weekend, did a bunch of interviews on camera. 49 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: They put them out and then liked them enough to 50 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: offer me a full time job. So quit whatever I 51 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: was doing in Chicago, sold all my shit, broke my least, 52 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: moved out to New York thirty days later, and then 53 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: started working at complex And then about a year into that, 54 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: I started working on the first f side of things. 55 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: We had to come up with a show. We were 56 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: in that revie is. 57 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Like Complexes Food division or something. It's like munchies for 58 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: vice perfect co perfect corollary. So started working with them. 59 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: We had to come up with the show. We're in 60 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: the magazine office. 61 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: You see celebrities walk in the halls all the time, 62 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: so we're like, maybe we can do a celebrity interview 63 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: show just because of our proximity to it. And then 64 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: we needed a food element, and then also solved the 65 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: problem celebrity interviews are boring. You know, why are they boring? 66 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: Because everyone's in a pr driven flight pattern. What can 67 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: we do to disrupt that? Chris Schoenberger was like, well, 68 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: what if we had them eat increasingly spicy chicken wings 69 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: over the course of the interview as a way to 70 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 3: break them down? And then that was a cupid Zaro 71 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: and my brain and we shot a pilot with Tony 72 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeo and had you in. 73 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: The first or second season. 74 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: I remember Yo from the g Units. 75 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, shot the pilot with him and then we haven't 76 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 3: stopped shooting it since since. 77 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: Been like, it's such a hit. 78 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a hit. There's people that come up 79 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: to me on the street and they don't even know 80 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: what I do. They just know my interview from Hot Ones. 81 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: But that is an iconic episode that isn't the pantheon 82 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: of great Oh is. 83 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: It up there in the top ten? Yeah? Yeah, definitely, 84 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: I think because I get who's number One's the number one? 85 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: That's a great meme. Gordon Ramsay's episode has I never 86 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: saw that one. It's amazing it. 87 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Will said. I loved Guy Fieri's because yes, he took 88 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: spice I think better than anyone I saw on the show. 89 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was great. He was great. 90 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: Alton Brown and Guy Fieri, the guys that had food 91 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: knowledge and know how, seemed to handle spice the best, 92 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I think. And I really thought it was almost like 93 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: a mental game. 94 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: You know what I think it is is because I 95 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: have it too. It's a familiarity. You know a lot 96 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: of people when they come on show. The spiciest meal 97 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: they've ever had in their lives is and then they're 98 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: doing it in this bizarre context of having all these 99 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: cameras and lights on them, you know what I mean. 100 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: So all of that can be kind of shocking in. 101 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: The right but Chef, but I mean the bomb and 102 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: those like those last doors are are I don't know 103 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: how Guy Fieri or Alton Brown can even like mental 104 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: process their way out of it. It's like they're not 105 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: It's they're just like acid, right, sulphuric acid right, that's uh. 106 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: The second time I did the show, I was like 107 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: laid out on the floor. 108 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: Well, I feel for you because. 109 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: But worse than the first time, because I think I 110 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: got a little cocky and I didn't go like the 111 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: coolio ri ip route, Like I didn't fucking douse it. 112 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: But I still was not as cautious as the first time, 113 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: and I was fucking toast. 114 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: You were just pouring saw. 115 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: I was really I was really in a world of 116 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: hers that throw out my body and it was like 117 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: I took my g I track a couple of days. 118 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: Afterwards to check it. 119 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: That was horrible. It was fucking horrible. I mean, what 120 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: is what is spice? Is it like is it like 121 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: a chemical compound? 122 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it. 123 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: Does singular chemical compound that they all share, all the 124 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: peppers share. 125 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 3: There's uh, you know, we order the we order the 126 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: sauces by the Scoville scale, So there actually is a 127 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: mathematical way scientific scale. 128 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: What is it actually measured? So it's measuring like is 129 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: there like like weed has THHC. 130 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: Capsation, So that's a capsation per unit, is like how 131 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: you'd get Scoville rating? Right, So then you have, yeah, 132 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: this act of chemical that's sending a message to your 133 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: brain that you know, your tongue is on fire. 134 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: And how were you able to tolerate such a high 135 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: through practice episode? Are you were like a mess? Yeah? 136 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah when you first started, and we didn't think 137 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: that we'd be programming it regularly, we thought maybe utterly. 138 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: Kind of kind of events. Yeah. So and how successful 139 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: is it? 140 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: Like? 141 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: What are the what are the number? Is it can 142 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: brag a little bit? 143 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: Total is over two billion views? 144 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: And wow, we're starting our twenty second season and we've 145 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: shot over three hundred episodes and you have the hot 146 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: sauce on top of that, and it's been kind of 147 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: a perfect creative endeavor. 148 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know why because it's relatable. It's relatable all 149 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: over the world, and you do what I try to 150 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: do on my shows. You get guests out of their 151 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: comfort zone. And it's very rare to see celebrities out 152 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: of their comfort zone exactly like you say that pr 153 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: flight pattern, and when you do see it, it's like 154 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: amazing and everybody can relate to, like trying to eat 155 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: spicier and spicy. My eight year old niece at her 156 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: birthday was like eating peppers and like we're at a 157 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: Thai restaurant. She's like, you dare me to eat it? 158 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: And her friend was like yeah, and then she was 159 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: like a spicy It's like everybody goes through that. So 160 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: I actually think spice is the first drug that you 161 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: use as a chop besides caffeine, besides Coca cola, and 162 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: spices the first drug. 163 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: It's a amount with in the sober community. 164 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: Like if I go to a hot Sauce expo, it'll 165 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: kind of look like the parking lot of a Slayer 166 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: concert a little bit. 167 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: They can get high without getting and I do. 168 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: Now frequently get a weightlessness. 169 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, feeling you have so many endorphins released. Why yeah, 170 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: at that spicy head high. 171 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 172 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's fun, but it's something. 173 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: It's gotten there for me. 174 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: You know. 175 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: When I first started, I wouldn't get there. 176 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: And now, like almost every episode around Wing eight, I'm floating. 177 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: It's great. 178 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Josh, have you ever gotten a endosco beclenoscaped? To make 179 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: sure that you. 180 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: I always go to the doctor. I haven't done that yet, 181 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: but I have them do every blood test and hooked 182 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: me up to everything really figure out what's going on. 183 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: I just recently I turned forty, so I went up 184 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: my button around the corner and the doctor said, I 185 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: was all right. 186 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: At least it wasn't in vain, you know, at least, yeah, 187 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: it was. 188 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: You gotta do it when you and the dot my 189 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: physical I. 190 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: Got my first finger, yeah bug in the butt. 191 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: The doctor goes, whoa you turn forty? You know what 192 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: that means? And I was like, hey on, doc, I 193 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: just got to call it. Then I look back to 194 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: both those guns are in the air, just like that 195 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: hobby with a recondre