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Speaker 1: Time for our weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: running back Fred Taylor, And all right, Fred, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Week eleven Jaguars headed to Detroit. But let's briefly look

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Speaker 1: back to last week. The defense held the Vikings to

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Speaker 1: four field goals. They were on the field forever. They

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Speaker 1: hit three takeaways with some good things on defense, but

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Speaker 1: the offense was just awful. That's absolutely awful. Fifth worst

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Speaker 1: day in the history of the franchise. How do they

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Speaker 1: work themselves out of this? Are they cooked? Can they

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Speaker 1: get anything done on offense?

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Speaker 2: I like that question. Are they cooked? That's what the

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Speaker 2: young kids are saying these days.

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Speaker 3: Right, everything's cooked, and it seems in the most inopportune time.

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Speaker 2: They are cooked.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've seen and we've mentioned this before JP

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Speaker 3: many games this year. Let's just focus on his six

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Speaker 3: losses or seven losses, but six of them? No, actually, yeah,

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Speaker 3: eight losses. Where is my brain today? But I'm focusing

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Speaker 3: on his six losses by just a little over four

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Speaker 3: points twenty five point total, and that was six losses.

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Speaker 3: If we can just look at the errors that they

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Speaker 3: made in those moments, it's a sign of a team

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Speaker 3: that's been slowly boiling. I think they're now officially cooked

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Speaker 3: because they just can't seem to function. There's a hump

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Speaker 3: that they can't get over. There are so many opportunities

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Speaker 3: And at this point in the season, you know you

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Speaker 3: are who you are. There's no one out there to

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Speaker 3: save you. We have backup linemen in there are no

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Speaker 3: other prospects out there. We have injuries that have mounted.

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Speaker 3: You know, the starting quarterback he's suffering the shoulder, missed

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Speaker 3: last week or miss last week's game.

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Speaker 2: So there's so much out there.

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Speaker 3: But the one thing that I do want to give

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Speaker 3: them credit for, on top of being cooked, they still

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Speaker 3: don't believe.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're competitive, man. You got to give them

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Speaker 3: These aren't just you know, you're not the brown paper

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Speaker 3: bag type team, the old Saints where your fans are

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Speaker 3: coming to the stadium bags over their head expecting a blowout.

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Speaker 2: You know you're gonna go.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna say, all right, I still believe in my team,

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Speaker 3: and you know, hopefully they can get it done today.

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Speaker 2: And they keep people coming back somehow. But those are

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Speaker 2: the real fans, right, So.

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Speaker 3: I'm encouraged to see that they're competitive and maybe we've

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Speaker 3: gotten our expectations high based on a year ago and

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Speaker 3: a year before that when they made that playoff run

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Speaker 3: two years ago. Then last year we said, well, Trevor's

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Speaker 3: injury and some other things kind of you know, got

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Speaker 3: in their way and they had that bad part of

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Speaker 3: the second half.

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Speaker 2: It's the same team.

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Speaker 3: You know, they hadn't got they hadn't improved from a

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Speaker 3: year ago, quite honestly, and.

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Speaker 4: Taylor with us.

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Speaker 1: This is really where the fall line of the season

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Speaker 1: because if they lose this week in Detroit, they are

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Speaker 1: guaranteed a losing record, no matter if they went out

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Speaker 1: after the bye week.

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Speaker 4: And then the bye week's coming.

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Speaker 1: Up, so there's a lot of you know, long term

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Speaker 1: questions to be answered. We'll see what happened, and this

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Speaker 1: is like, this is a very important game certainly for

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Speaker 1: a lot of reasons, and you know, they just need

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Speaker 1: to find a win somehow. It is tough though against

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Speaker 1: this Detroit team. Yeah, pound for pound, there they're right

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Speaker 1: there is.

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Speaker 4: The best team in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They've got a lot of things going and let's start

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Speaker 1: an offense. Fred It's it's a resurgent Jared Goff. They've

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Speaker 1: got a running attack with two running backs. They've got

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Speaker 1: wide receivers that can burn the field. They've got a

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is like the complete offense.

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Speaker 3: It feels like, yeah, no doubt, and I believe they

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Speaker 3: if a team can go into your stadium throw five interceptions, uh,

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Speaker 2: And they're just coach well, you know, top down, they

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Speaker 3: They got all of the weapons at every position offensively, defense.

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Speaker 3: You know, they they take chances. You know, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: come in and say, hey, we're gonna play man, We're

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Speaker 2: Uh. You know what what's.

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Speaker 3: Slowing him down a bit is you know, the injury

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Speaker 3: to Aiden Hutcheson. I Mean, he's just phenomenal in every

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Speaker 2: In the past, but he's not here, uh.

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Speaker 3: And that helps the Jaguars a bit, but focusing on

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Speaker 3: the guys that are out there, they still have a

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Speaker 2: You know, you got our old buddy over there, Mark Brunell.

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Speaker 3: Who those guys that we visited two camps ago last

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Speaker 3: year's training camp just to be re see their operation.

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Speaker 3: Talk to coach Campbell, talk to the staff. They got

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Speaker 3: a staff full of former players, so they know the game.

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Speaker 3: I mean every position group has a former player coaching them,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of locker rooms around the NFL because

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Speaker 3: all of the players are competitive, But how do you

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Speaker 3: get them to study more? How do you get them

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Speaker 3: on what really matters? And those are usually that's the

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Speaker 2: Avoid.

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Speaker 3: So those teams, I mean, they're very well coaching. They

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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with US, Saverie Gibbs, David Montgomery have an

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Speaker 1: identical amount of carries this year. Yeah, it stands out

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Speaker 1: about their game. How are they different? And it seems

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Speaker 1: they're in lockstep.

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Speaker 2: This is a real one two punch.

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Speaker 3: You got David Montgomery who runs like Markshawn Lynch. You know,

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Speaker 3: he can get get it done in the past game

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Speaker 2: You know, vig checkdowns.

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Speaker 3: He can run some routes, but he's not as dynamic

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Speaker 3: he's more of the I'm just gonna he's like the

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Speaker 3: Hussin boat in football. I mean he is lightning fast,

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Speaker 3: catches the ball, he can run routes, run real will routes.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna see different matchups. If you think last week.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings schemes up their tight ends versus Foyer Lukan,

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Speaker 3: I expect the Vikings to create some sort of matchups

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Speaker 3: see some matchups in the in the past game for forget.

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Speaker 3: But on the ground, they're both just amazing backs. I'm

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Speaker 3: a fan of both of them. I like Montgomery when

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Speaker 3: Gibbs coming out of college. You know it was between

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Speaker 2: So but I love Bijon too. I can love both

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Speaker 3: But hopefully for this particular game, the Jaguars, they've done

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Speaker 3: a really good job versus running backs, allowing guys under

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Speaker 3: one hundred yards for the most part. I think Saquon

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Speaker 3: if I'm charting it right, maybe the only one yard

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Speaker 3: have gone over a hundred, but from a single back standpoint,

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Speaker 3: I believe say one. But the defense is done pretty

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Speaker 3: which will help contribute to a win win possibility.

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Speaker 1: Pret Taylor with US Jaguars secondary last week free takeaways,

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Speaker 1: they really shut down Justin Jefferson in that game.

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Speaker 4: They made that a priority. No big plays. You know

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Speaker 4: they're on the field forever.

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Speaker 1: But this week they've got the challenge again on the

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Speaker 1: outside with Jamison Williams who can burn it. And I'm

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Speaker 1: on Ross Saint Brown, who boy look out this this

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Speaker 1: is this duo is tough to tangle with. And what'd

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Speaker 1: you make of the secondary last week? It's a group

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Speaker 1: that's really struggled a lot this year.

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Speaker 3: You know, I thought collectively as a unit, you know,

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Speaker 3: look at a few other games, namely the Buffalo game

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Speaker 3: went they tried to play more zone and they got

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Speaker 3: picked apart. You look at how well they played last

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Speaker 3: week and their their zones zone scheme. They didn't allow

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Speaker 3: the big, big play. You know, they sacrificed big plays

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Speaker 3: they had a twenty eight yarded by Hocketson.

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Speaker 2: And another twenty six yarder by Oliver.

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Speaker 3: But from the receiver standpoint, you minimize the scoring our

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Speaker 3: I like to see what the strategy is this week

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Speaker 3: versus a very great passing team in Detroit. Tyson Campbell

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Speaker 3: has to come and play montage. You know, he has

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Speaker 3: to make plays like he made in the end zone there,

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Speaker 3: Ben don't break. I don't mind that style. If you

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Speaker 2: So but pass rush.

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Speaker 3: Is gonna be key again, and it's not going to

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Speaker 1: All right, Fred, final thought with you here Jaguars offense.

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Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned Trevor Lawrence's left shoulder issue.

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Speaker 4: No word, who knows what's going to happen this week?

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Speaker 1: If mac Jones is out there again, you know, how

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Speaker 4: And then big picture for Trevor, do you try.

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Speaker 1: To fight back and get on the field this season

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Speaker 1: or at some point do you shut it down? I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are big questions moving ahead, not just for this season,

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Speaker 1: but for the next offseason to come.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think from a competitive standpoint, what we

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Speaker 3: saw from Trevor a year ago with all of the injuries,

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Speaker 3: you know, we know he's a guy who wants to

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Speaker 3: lead the team and be that example of not quitting

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Speaker 3: so and he's always been that way. So from that standpoint,

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Speaker 3: I would expect Trevor to consider playing the rest of

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Speaker 3: the season as much as he can, you know, as

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Speaker 3: long as he doesn't set him back. I think from

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Speaker 3: a business standpoint, you know, you look at the record,

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Speaker 3: you look at where they are in the potential draft

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Speaker 3: standing and now which you know they're in the lead

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Speaker 3: to get the number one pick as of today. The upfront,

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Speaker 3: the front office have to make a decision. I know,

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Speaker 3: no one believes in taking the season, but from a

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Speaker 2: You don't want to go out there and get him injured,

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Speaker 2: you know, worse.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the severity of the injury now as

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Speaker 3: we speak, but you know, there's a lot of questions

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Speaker 3: that you are, a lot of conversations that we're not

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Speaker 3: privy too that are probably going on. So who knows

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Speaker 3: from that standpoint, But I know Trevor. He's gutsy, he's competitive,

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Speaker 3: to play. It'd be hard to keep him out. Matt

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Speaker 3: Jones Mac Jones, he just got to keep getting reps,

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Speaker 3: you know, last week wasn't pretty at all. He had

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Speaker 3: some moments, but he had a lot of really bad moments.

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Speaker 3: More up the pressured situations late in the game, and

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Speaker 3: to hit Max's credit, the protection wasn't great at several

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Speaker 3: moments throughout the course of the game. Doug talked about sack,

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Speaker 2: Third and very long.

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Speaker 3: So repetitions give you the confidence to go out there

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Speaker 3: and play lights out Mac first game in quite some time.

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Speaker 3: I just think he was a bit rusty, and then

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Speaker 3: the past protection didn't help that. Perhaps breakdowns all over

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Speaker 3: the field, and then that very interceptions or the interceptions

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Speaker 3: late in the game didn't help either. So I just

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Speaker 3: got to keep practicing and see how it works out.

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Speaker 1: Hostile environment this week Ford Field against one of the

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Speaker 1: top teams in the NFL, the Detroit Lions. Will talk

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Speaker 1: to you after Fred, Thanks as always.

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Speaker 3: You know where I'll be at ready right here, ready

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Speaker 3: to go with a win. I'm calling it all that

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Speaker 3: in a while, JP, you feel the win for the win, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna find a way. Duval in Detroit, we'll be

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Speaker 3: screaming duvall all the way back, and how about that