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A training camp report from Port Saint Luci, 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: where Taylor is covering the met Spring training coming up 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: in about ten minutes. Here have one an hour number one, 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: and he will have another one coming up in about 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: eight minutes. Is he had a very cute, innocent moment 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: as the United States beats Canada two to one they 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: win the Gold women's hockey Is he they're throwing their gloves, 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: they're celebrating, and is He looks at me and he 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: says innocently, And then realize right after how dumb of 19 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: a question it was. But he said to me, how 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: do they know whose gloves or. 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 4: Who's They're just stelling their equipment everywhere, and like, I 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 4: get it, they're probably not they're not gonna play again. 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: It's a gold medal game at all. 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 4: But like, somebody's got to collect those things and then 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 4: where do you put them? But then I realize, oh, yeah, 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 4: they probably had their numbers on this and their names, 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: and their names probably maybe the address inside of them, 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 4: just so you can ship them. 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: Yes, Canada hates us. We have officially stolen hockey from Canada. 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: You've had the Panthers South Florida specifically beating the Edmonton 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: Oilers back to back Stanley Cups, and now we beat 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Canada in the gold medal game. The United States men's 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: team will play in the semi finals tomorrow. 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: But you didn't like that, dude, You don't like three 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: on three for overtime. 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: So I got to tell you, Mikey, I don't know 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: how you feel about this, but three on three. 38 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: In overtime is a joke. I'm playing. We won, but 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: are you kidding me? It's a different game like all 40 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: it we play. 41 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: We play a sport for sixty minutes, okay, and then 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: suddenly it gets to overtime, and we're playing an entirely 43 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: different sport three on three, which, by the way, I'm 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: not certain it shouldn't be three on three all the time. 45 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: But it's not right now, it's five on five. It's 46 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: a different sport. I do not like it. 47 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: Stude, didn't you want for extra innings in baseball to 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: have a home run derby instead. 49 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Of actually played baseball? I did, yes, And that's not 50 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: different than this. Listen, extra innings, Okay, they can go 51 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: on forever. I'm just trying to get everyone home by 52 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: eleven thirty, that's all. So you know, the game ends 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: at ten, it's tied at four, four a piece, and 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: you have, you know. 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: Let's say it's the Yankees taking on the match. 56 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: You have Sodo versus Aaron Judge five swings home run derby. 57 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: Everyone's home by eleven. 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: But that's more important than the game being of the 59 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: same game, totally different game. 60 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: You're right, I'm being inconsistent, but I can be. 61 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's fair, of course you can. I don't 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 4: love the three on three. What I do love about 63 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 4: it is it does what you just said. It ends 64 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: the game sooner. Because I'm three on three, a goal 65 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 4: is gonna happen within about five or six manes almostante. 66 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think of the entire I'm being serious. 67 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: It should be three on three or four and four. 68 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: It's gonna be a lot of people with salaries that 69 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: say no thank you to I would like it to 70 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 4: be as many players as possible. 71 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: What's up, my key? 72 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 5: I'm mad that I missed the goal because I've been 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 5: trying to put together my own list of athletes whose parents. 74 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: Were colorful birds. How many you got? So three? 75 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: Well, those two don't have to be great, because according 76 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: to Stue, you just need one good one. 77 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, want to list will be great. 78 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Why don't you just give us your top three right now, 79 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: just to see where you're at, and we'll tell you. 80 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: I like, you might not have to do any more work. 81 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: Here it workshop it right on the air. 82 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 6: Let's do it, okay, all workshopper, right on the air. 83 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: Number three, Flamingo her moms, So far, so good. Number two, 84 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 5: Number two oriole hersheys. 85 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: Are, Oh that's pretty good, Pretty good, Mike. 86 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 6: The last one is for is for Taylor McCall hollins. 87 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: Again, we are six minutes away from a spring training 88 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: report Saint Lucy with Taylor, who is on location. 89 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: Can I tell you what I don't like about hockey now? 90 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: And it's a new thing because I haven't been a 91 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: huge hockey fan, but I know when people talk about hockey, 92 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: I can hear things, right, I have ears. 93 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Yes, put it on the Paul tailor. Does is he 94 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: have years? God? 95 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: Uh, trash talk called chirping? Like I understand that within 96 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 4: the NHL, within hockey, it's been called chirping for a 97 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: long time, right, like whatever, but it has just taken 98 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: over as the phrase for saying somebody has been trash talking, Like, Oh, 99 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: that was an epic chirp. That sounds terrible. That does 100 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: not sound like something I'm going to be intimidated by it. 101 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: It's not me. 102 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: Oh what an all time chirp? 103 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: I was like, that does sound terrible? 104 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 4: Like just say something different, Like I don't want to 105 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: think of what's the little bird that Sylvester the Cat 106 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: used to eat on? 107 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: Tweety I don't want to have to think of tweety. 108 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 4: Bird every time I'm thinking of hockey players talking. 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: Smack, dude, tell it. 110 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: I am now just trying to think of so one 111 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: in sports where I put tweetybird into it. 112 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: Another option. 113 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: There you go, Canary man, canary Ah, You're right, You're right, 114 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: you got that off your check. 115 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: You tell me about that for a while. Another phrase 116 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: in chirping, please. 117 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 7: Ch chirp. 118 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: Let's go out to Dan, who was in Connecticut today. 119 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Dan, you're on Fox Sports Radio. 120 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: No, this is okay. I'll take either one of you. 121 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Who cares. What's that dad? 122 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 8: Hey, So I wanted to talk about the Bears possibly 123 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 8: moving to Indiana. 124 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 9: They want to build a stadium. Yeah, and uh, I just. 125 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 8: Think there's no way that the state of Illinois is 126 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 8: gonna let them move across state lines. It's going to 127 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 8: be like Connecticut back in ninety nine when Kraft use 128 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 8: Connecticut as a bargaining chip to get Massachusetts to chip 129 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 8: in on their stadium, their new stadium to be built 130 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 8: in Massachusett. 131 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is pretty interesting, and thanks for the call. Dog. 132 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 4: They're not gonna be I mean, they couldn't be the 133 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 4: Indiana Bears. I think it was funny. 134 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: Because they're not going to Bears even if they play 135 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: in Indiana. 136 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: Yes, there was supposedly momentum and a meeting happening in 137 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: Chicago that was going to move along this process to 138 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: get them. I forget it was a certain amount of 139 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 4: funding because they're putting in a certain amount of money. 140 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 4: I think it's in the billions, and they're going to 141 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: get a certain amount of funding still from I believe, 142 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 4: the state. But it feels like Chicago or the Bears 143 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: are doing some shady stuff here because after that meeting, 144 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 4: or that meeting was actually postponed because they were finding 145 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: out that, and all of a sudden, they've got this 146 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: deal with Indiana in place, and now they're pushing Indiana 147 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 4: as the potential home stadium for them, and that, to me, 148 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: it just not only just it sounds kind of sketchy 149 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: what's going on there, but if your home state wants 150 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: you to be there and they're doing taking steps to 151 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 4: allow you to stay there and build a state, like 152 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: it just seems pretty questionable. 153 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: To try to go elsewhere. 154 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: And I just I can't imagine, even though it's only 155 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 4: like twenty five minutes south of Soldier Field, I can't 156 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: imagine a single Bears fan that would be okay with it. 157 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: They would not. 158 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: But don't you agree with Dan It's it's probably a 159 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: leverage play, right Like That's like David Sampson, I remember 160 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: the Marlin trying to build a stadium down here. I 161 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: think that use San Antonio is a threat right for 162 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: a Miami, but. 163 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: They're doing it very aggressively, and it feels like, you know, Indiana, 164 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: Indiana people say, hey, we're up for business man, We're 165 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: ready to take this NFL team away from them. It's 166 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: just it's ugly and I couldn't be a Bears fan 167 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: right now, especially with the way their trajectory is going 168 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: upward and you're talking about moving this team out of 169 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: out of Chicago when their leases up. 170 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: I don't like it. 171 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to E Dog. I think in Fort Jefferson, 172 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: go ahead, e Dog. 173 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 10: Thank you just taking my call. 174 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: Now, I got a question for you. 175 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 10: Yes, what what did Mickey mantle thirty home runs and 176 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 10: dirty song bases in four years? 177 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: Why? Why? I don't know. I mean the mic because 178 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: it was very important. 179 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 8: He would have done it seven or eight times. 180 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Huh say the first party Johnson, Yeah, hold on, thank you, 181 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: I'll see the first part again, he dog. 182 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, just what Mickey man on it? 183 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 10: I think you hit it like four or five times. 184 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 8: H thirty stm based and thirty home months three four times? 185 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was it was that important. 186 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 9: He was done at eight times. 187 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: You're right, listen. I can't argue it. Okay, thank you, 188 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: thank you for the call. He dog all again. 189 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 6: To high school with somebody named Parry. 190 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: Listen, his larger point is correct. 191 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: If it was so important that Vickey Mantle, he would 192 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: have done it every single season. 193 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm just imagining. 194 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: I'm just imagining the greatest Mickey Manton fan of all time, 195 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: just sitting there calling shows all over the country, just 196 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: giving you facts with a little bit of opinion. 197 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 2: Yes, that would be Mike Francessa. 198 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 9: I love it. 199 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: I love sports radio. 200 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: If you don't take it so seriously, it could be 201 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: so much fun. We're all a bunch of dopes. 202 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: Hard to breathe what I'm laughing. 203 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: Let's go up to uh I miss Taylor. I do, 204 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: but he's on assignment. This might be a new gig 205 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: for him for Fox Sports Radio. He is covering met 206 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: spring training up in Port Saint Lucy. Let's get a 207 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: report here from Taylor PLO. 208 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 5: Devin Williams looked healthy in a bullpen session from met 209 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 5: spring training camp. 210 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 9: I'm sports radio. 211 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: Father, Taylor. What'd you think of? Dogs? 212 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 9: Called? 213 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: Taylor has no more information? Iowa Sam back at Sherman Oaks. 214 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: I did not. 215 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: I was not aware of that sounder that we use 216 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: when we throw the tailor and when Taylor signs off. 217 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: Did he send that to you? 218 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: Yes? 219 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: It was sent here in a Fox Sports are I 220 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: like the little home run chip at the like what 221 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: are the little hitting of the bat is at the 222 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: end like a bunt? 223 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 9: I don't know. 224 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: Yes, but yes that said to us. But no one 225 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: asked for it, right, I mean, I just do what 226 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm told. But he thought you guys can for it. 227 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: I thought I didn't ask for it. 228 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: I had no idea it was coming, and certainly no 229 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: need to play it on the back end. 230 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: Well, let's hear it again. 231 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 11: Okay, it's a catchy tune. 232 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: It's like a video game, a baseball crack of the bat. 233 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: You are, right, Germaine O'Neill to join us, coming up? 234 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 4: Can I complain a little more about nhl rs? And 235 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 4: they're chirping and okay, I just don't think it's that good. 236 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 4: I think I talked about it yesterday where mathe could 237 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 4: chuck drop to Leon dry Sidle always the bridesmaid, huh. 238 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 4: And it's just like, first of all, I don't even 239 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: like the saying because if you finish. Second, you're not 240 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: a bridesmaid, you're the maid of honor. The saying should 241 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 4: be always the maid of honor. Yeah, not always the bridesmaid, 242 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: but also weak chirping week that that actually should be 243 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 4: called a chirp. They should call it a chirp when 244 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: it's terrible, when it's Michael Jordan level, then they can. 245 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: Call it trash talk right when it's serious, right, So 246 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: Jordan is the barometer for trash talk. 247 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 2: And chirping is when you say something that's kind of 248 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: an ita. Yeah, it's got chirping. 249 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: It's kind of like, oh, I wonder where all their 250 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: gloves go after they win. 251 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: That's like a chirp. 252 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company 253 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific. 254 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 4: Welcome Inn to Stu Gats in Company. We're talking to 255 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 4: Jermaine O'Neill, who NBA legend. Jermaine O'Neil uh played in 256 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: Miami for a year and a half, so I got 257 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: to interview him a few times. 258 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: One of the best talkers I think in. 259 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 9: The history of the NBA. 260 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 4: Jermaine, I don't think I ever told you that when 261 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 4: you think about today's game, because everybody seems to be 262 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: trying to fix today's game all of a sudden, Right, 263 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 4: do you see a problem with guys just not playing enough? 264 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 7: What was really strange to me, honestly, is they have 265 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 7: more rest days than any era has ever had. They're 266 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 7: not practicing as much, they don't play as many back 267 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 7: to backs, they don't play any four and five nights. Right, 268 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 7: yet they are they are more damaged than ever. Right, 269 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 7: they have you know, more Achilles more, you know, uh, 270 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 7: cash strains more, you know, the strains in general. And 271 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 7: it's it's interesting to see that happen. I'm not sure, 272 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 7: you know what the NBA needs to do. I think 273 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 7: they probably need to go back, you know, to a 274 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 7: little bit more practicing, because I think they're choosing rest 275 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 7: over actually, you know, physical preparation. I went to the finals. 276 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 7: I went to the conference the conference finals and against 277 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 7: an India with against the New York Knicks, and then 278 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 7: I went to the NBA Finals obviously as well. And 279 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 7: the first thing that jumped out to me in the 280 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 7: Conference finals was the pace. Right, they are flying up 281 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 7: and down the court. Now I mean not guard, but 282 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 7: they are, but they are flying right, And so that 283 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 7: jumped out to me and I was like, oh, I 284 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 7: get it now, right, But in order to fly at 285 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 7: that pace up and down the court, your body has 286 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 7: to be conditioned to that pace, right, And so now 287 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 7: you're having to limit guys, you know, in practices, you know, 288 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 7: and it doesn't equate to you know, to you know, 289 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 7: guys being healthy enough to sustain throughout the I mean, 290 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 7: our best players are all hurt. And so you know, 291 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 7: as a fan, like when you're spending that whatever he 292 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 7: that three four, five hundred dollars for those tickets, you 293 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 7: know you want to In many cases it may be 294 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 7: that one time that you get a chance to go 295 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 7: to that arena to watch your favorite player and they're 296 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 7: not playing. That's I think that's what's you know, what's 297 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 7: pissing you know, fans off from perspective of like, you know, 298 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 7: the audience. And they talked about TV ratings and stuff 299 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 7: like that. But it was very pleasant to see winby 300 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 7: tape the throne on competing right away, right. 301 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he saved the All Star Game, right did he? 302 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: He saved it? 303 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 7: I mean you see the disappointment in his face, you know, 304 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 7: every time they didn't win it, and he is he's 305 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 7: gonna be amazing ambassador for our game. And he took 306 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 7: he's been, he made it, he brought the He single 307 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 7: handly brought the NB All Star Game back. 308 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: H The thing that happens, though, and you know this 309 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: is if he continues to go out and do that 310 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: and God forbid, gets hurt during the All Star Game, 311 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: someone's gonna say, why were you trying so hard during 312 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: an exhibition game the. 313 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 9: Time that the one time, I was like, oh no, 314 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 9: like touching us. We want we want the guys to compete. 315 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 7: And it's interesting because I remember playing in an All 316 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 7: Star game and we had this this this un written rule, right, 317 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 7: we would get warm in the first part of the game, right, 318 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 7: and we will we'll put well we have a lot 319 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 7: of showmanship, uh, in the first part. 320 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 9: And then what we would do after that. 321 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 7: We knew third and fourth quarter we would turn the 322 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 7: ball in month right, and knew that like every player 323 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 7: that was in that game and those games knew that. 324 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 7: And so I get it, you know, some guys, and 325 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 7: back then we used to play right up into the 326 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 7: All Start game. We may have a game on that 327 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 7: Thursday and then got to fly out that Friday to 328 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 7: go to the All Star weekend, right, So it was 329 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 7: it was one of those things where, you know, some 330 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 7: guys are a little bit beat up and tired, so 331 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 7: it was unique. But we really respected the opportunity to 332 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 7: showcase our talents, as you know, being considered, you know, 333 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 7: the best in the world amongst know, amongst each other, 334 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 7: and being able to go out there and give the 335 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 7: fans what they expect to see. 336 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: Jae, we were having a pretty heated argument and we 337 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: were doing on our radio show the other day. I 338 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: was just saying that there's no chance that Dan Marino 339 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: would trade his career for Sam Darnold's just because Sam 340 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: Darnolds got the ring. Okay, so I'm curious what leveled 341 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: his curiosity. Yes, So the first name that came to 342 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: mind when I said, would your Manniel trade his career 343 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 4: with a current player so far? 344 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: Alex Caruso. He's got two, right, He's got two. 345 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: Rings, one with the Lakers, one with the Thunder not 346 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 4: really close to an All Star game, and kind of considered, 347 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: what just a defensive role player, but a you know, 348 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: key piece, but a defensive role player. 349 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: Would you trade careers with Alex Caruso? 350 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 9: For the rings. Wow. First of all, shout out to Alex. 351 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 7: He's been he's been a he's been an amazing glue piece, 352 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 7: you know, for his teams and really any team that 353 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 7: he's played on. To be honest, but I'm gonna be honest, man, 354 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 7: Like every situation, every situation is a different situation. And 355 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 7: I think for players and in particularly for myself, when 356 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 7: you go through everything that you went through or you 357 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 7: know as a player and and you know personally and 358 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 7: also professionally, the gratification of things that you achieve is 359 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 7: really really important. 360 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 9: Right. 361 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 7: Obviously, we wake up every day to try to go 362 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 7: compete for a championship, and in many cases everything has. 363 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 9: To be right to get it right. 364 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 7: For me personally, I wouldn't give away the things that 365 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 7: I've done for a championship because I knew how hard 366 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 7: it was to achieve those things, right, whatever it was 367 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 7: that I you know, I personally achieved. So it's like 368 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 7: this thing, like it's a really delicate question to be honest, Yes, yes, 369 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 7: I wish, you. 370 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 9: Know, Like I watch it every year. 371 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 7: I watch the clinching games every single year, and it's 372 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 7: like I see the emotions of people's like the tears 373 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 7: and the family hung like I desired. I still desire 374 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 7: that feeling, right like I got years left in my 375 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 7: lit which I don't. But so I would say that 376 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 7: the super long winded way of just saying I would 377 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 7: not personally would. 378 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Because you're no, I'm kidding, well, no, no, no, that's 379 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: that's if you're asking him, would you rather be a 380 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: glue guy rather than be the dominant all star that 381 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: he was? And so maybe that is like, I don't know, 382 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Ben Wallace, would you take that? No, I'm trying to 383 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: think a guy closer to you in talent, not that 384 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: Ben was Horace Gray. 385 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. Just name a power forward that has 386 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: one ring. Would you exchange your career for his career? 387 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 9: Still think? I still think no. 388 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 7: I think one of the biggest things is like having 389 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 7: to see it's a lot of sacrifices that you know, 390 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 7: that that that you you make in you know when 391 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 7: you're going through that process and we're not even not 392 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 7: even to mention like all the time that you miss 393 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 7: with your family, right you here some major events in 394 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 7: their lives. But I think everybody, whatever whatever role they 395 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 7: have and whatever achievements, have a level of success in 396 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 7: any league, but particular the NBA. That's well earned, right, 397 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 7: And so I just I don't feel like we need 398 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 7: to slight anybody, right, you know, we just. 399 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: Like you like your story. 400 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 9: Yes, I didn't. 401 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 7: I didn't win it because we you know, we just 402 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 7: didn't have you know, the it to finish, right, you know, 403 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 7: and you have to have the it to finish you 404 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 7: can get close to it. But if that team and 405 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 7: that situation health, it's a lot of things that going 406 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 7: to you know, winning the championship. 407 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 9: And I just wasn't. 408 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean thinking about when I was with Portland, 409 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 7: I thought that nineteen years old when you know, Brian, 410 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 7: I think it was Robert Orriy banked in the three 411 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 7: Big Yeah, So it was like this thing like you 412 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 7: know or Sean Elliott, you know in San Antonio we won. 413 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 7: You know, he doesn't drop his it's the best catch 414 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 7: and shoot corner three of all times. 415 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: The shadow it was amazing spaceline or a sideline. 416 00:19:54,280 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 7: Tip toe, right, did not drop that heel right, things 417 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 7: like that, right where it's hard to just kind of 418 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 7: take away somebody else to shine for you for your benefit. 419 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 9: So I personally. 420 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: Wouldn't totally fair how do you feel you clearly care 421 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: about the game still you're a fan of the NBA. 422 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 2: What do you make of tanking? And do you think 423 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: what would be your solution for tanking? 424 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 7: Here's here's what the here's what these teams need to do, right. 425 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 7: I think the NBA has gotten away from coming in 426 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 7: like I was seventeen years old coming into the NBA. 427 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 7: I came into an organization that was prepared, right. I 428 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 7: don't think it's enough conversation about what organizations are doing 429 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 7: or not doing right. The Portland Trail Blazers were prepared 430 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 7: for a seventeen year old, right. They had veteran leadership 431 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 7: that allowed me to grow and mature. It's like baking 432 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 7: a cake, right, putting the ingredients in year over year 433 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 7: until you get to a point where you're ready to 434 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 7: put in the oven. Let it go and be you know, 435 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 7: be a fine edit, you know, find you know the 436 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 7: cake that you desire. I think that team teams, because 437 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 7: of the cat rules, have gotten away from the better 438 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 7: and leadership. The veterans are now becoming more expensive right 439 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 7: for teams. Right, And so when you have the young 440 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 7: leading the young, or the blind leading the blind, you 441 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 7: get the you get the consistent and losing seasons right. 442 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 7: And so the teams that actually get it right are 443 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 7: the ones. You know, I thought, you know, the OKC 444 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 7: thunder right, they always always had better in leadership on 445 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 7: on you know, on your team. Obviously they've done a 446 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 7: great job on you know, the trays and their draft 447 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 7: picks and stuff like that, but at least having somebody 448 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 7: like the Adonnas Haslam's right, who's you know who really 449 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 7: made the second chapter of his career almost like a 450 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 7: second coach right where you know he was able to 451 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 7: bring that championship pedigree and and just that better in 452 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 7: leadership and keeping keeping young players accountable. And if they 453 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 7: do more of that, the teams wouldn't have to tank, 454 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 7: right because they'd be more competitive. But I don't know 455 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 7: if it's a way around tanking, because right now, with 456 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 7: so many players being out with injury, you know they're gonna, 457 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 7: you know, they're going to just say that guys are hurt, right, 458 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 7: And so you know, if we want to if we 459 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 7: want to keep the game healthy and competitive and give 460 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 7: back to the rivalry conference games right where teams really 461 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 7: competed at all times, we have to add more. Hell, 462 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 7: just take just take the just take the veteran player 463 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 7: salary off the cap and just added as a coaching salary. 464 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: Good idea. 465 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 7: So, and I think that'll really help develop our young 466 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 7: super talented players and give them an opportunity to learn 467 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 7: from older people that's been around it. 468 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: You were part of. 469 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 4: Arguably, I don't even think it's arguable the best draft 470 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 4: class in history. 471 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 2: Uh. 472 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: In case you guys don't remember, Stu, go ahead, jail Yeah, 473 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: number one. In case you don't remember, Alan Iverson, Marcus 474 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: can Be, Sharif A Derberheems, the Fon, Marbury, Ray Allen, 475 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 4: and Twine Walker. 476 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: I'm just going highlights here. 477 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: Carrie Kittles, Kobe Paysia, Steve Nash, and then you get 478 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: to Jermaine O'Neil. Okay, So to get to Kobe, I 479 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 4: mean absolutely insane. Now, however, this draft class is supposed 480 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 4: to be very top heavy as well, at least the 481 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 4: top four getting. 482 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 2: A lot of praise. 483 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 4: But please, Joe, are you with me here that Darren Peterson, 484 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: they need to stop with the Kobe comparisons because that's 485 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: a little crazy right now. 486 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think a little early, And I will say this, 487 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 7: so that class is my Son's class the twenty five class, 488 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 7: So I've been coaching that class against that class since 489 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 7: seventh grade, so. 490 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 9: I'm very familiar. 491 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 7: Even Cooper Flag is really the twenty five class classified. 492 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 7: So I've had a chance to look at these kids 493 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 7: and see these kids, you know, in depth, super talented class. Right, 494 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 7: It's gonna go down as one of the best draft 495 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 7: classes if they all continue to develop, and they have 496 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 7: all developed over the over the previous years. But I 497 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 7: think it's kind of you know, the Darren is a 498 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 7: to me. I thought he was a top two player 499 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 7: last year, and that was tough to say coming out 500 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 7: of high school because it was a very loaded class 501 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 7: with you know, with the boozer Cameron and obviously a 502 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 7: j and you know co Opede and I mean you 503 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 7: just keep going on, you know. But Kobe is a 504 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 7: different monster, right, And I think, but this, this is 505 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 7: kind of a strange thing that's happening right now, is 506 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 7: he's not he's not playing like he's coming in and 507 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 7: out so much that now people are starting to question it. 508 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 7: And he's too good of a talent to allow that 509 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 7: to happen. If you're going to compare him to Kobe 510 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 7: from ability standpoint, you also got to compare the mental 511 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 7: and the mentality as well. That's what made Kobe who 512 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 7: he was. He just had a different level of mentality. 513 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 9: Uh. 514 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 7: And I had a chance since thirteen to you know, 515 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 7: because me and Kobe is in the same class graduation class. 516 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 10: Uh. 517 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 9: And I think that part. 518 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 7: Is it's a tough comparison for me when I hear that, 519 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 7: because I've watched him. You know, what he went through 520 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 7: his entire career basically, and what and how you approach 521 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 7: the game. So I think Darren is going to be 522 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 7: an amazing, elite level talent. But I think it's a 523 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 7: little too early to compare those two. 524 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: Jermaine will let you go here in just a second 525 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: and have your promote the Prep Academy one more time 526 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: on the way out. But two quick ones for me here. 527 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: The guy you talked the most to you when you 528 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: were playing in the NBA, Uh, just a trash talker. 529 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 7: She maybe she yeah, maybe maybe she once, because you know, 530 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 7: I always kind of reminded she like after after the 531 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 7: first two years, you know, I think it was a 532 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 7: little bit of a change in the guard and I 533 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 7: decided to. 534 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 9: Get better and stronger. And so when I left. You know, 535 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 9: it was always this thing where he was always. 536 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 7: Kind of saying the kid all the time, right, and 537 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 7: so we have this back and forth thing with a 538 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 7: lot of respect amongst each other. 539 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 9: But I don't know if players it was just I 540 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 9: don't know. 541 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 7: It's just like the physicality back then was just different. 542 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 7: Like we kind of talked through right our actual play. 543 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 9: Yes, and so as. 544 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 7: Far as going back and forth, the only person I 545 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 7: know that you know, just watching talked all the time 546 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 7: was Gary Payton. Of course Michael Jordan's I wasn't. I 547 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 7: was able to say a bunch of different Yeah, those 548 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 7: are the two guys that I thought talked the most 549 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 7: trash for the most part. 550 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: So Jordan, the one guy where his game could do 551 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: all the talking. Still talk trash, right. 552 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 9: And nobody ever questioned it? 553 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 6: How good you. 554 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: Different? 555 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 9: Okay, you got it? 556 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: Speaking of Jordan, this is a crazy question. We play 557 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: a game around here called shop for your Life. So, uh, 558 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: you need to hit a three pointer. Your life depends 559 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: on this, and you have two choices. Okay, it's dramatic. 560 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: I understand that nothing should be uh should mean as 561 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: much where it will cost you your life. Bop, here 562 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: are your two choices, you need to hit the three, Okay, 563 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Michael Jordan's can it be along too? 564 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: At least make it difficult. 565 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: So he's gonna say Steph Curry, and I would choose 566 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan's gonna care about my life in 567 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: a way that Steph Curry would it because he just 568 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: cares about winning, that's all. 569 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 9: Yeah, But I mean you are correct on that. But 570 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 9: I'm gonna go Steph because percentages. 571 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 7: And just percentages, right, And I'm gonna I'm gonna say 572 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 7: this though. Right, the first thing that I remember my 573 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 7: last year NBA and the first I walked in the gym, 574 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 7: Steph was on a practice court and he shoots one 575 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 7: hundred threes a day. Right, Well, I practice right in 576 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 7: the beginning. If they hit the rim, it didn't count. 577 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 7: So I'm taking Steph. Yeah, so that's conditioned. 578 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 9: Yo. 579 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 4: Did you see gots the shot that he hit from 580 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 4: the television booth during idea? 581 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: I did you see all the game winners Jordan hit? 582 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: All right, let me try this way real quickly. We'll 583 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: get you out of here, Okay, Reggie Miller or Larry Bird, 584 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: who you going with this? 585 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 9: Is crazy. I'm gonna go with my man, Reggie. 586 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: Oh man, that's what. 587 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 9: It's biased to. It's it's a little bias as well. Yeah, spot, Yeah, 588 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 9: you know, I love again. 589 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 7: I watched Reggie's preparation every day. Uh, and favorite people 590 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 7: in the world about it. I'm gonna say both amazing, Uh, 591 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 7: you know, competitors, But I'm gonna go to Reggie. 592 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: You couldn't piss anybody off in Indiana with that either answer. 593 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 4: So you're great. No, it's the right answer for him, 594 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: it's just the wrong one for me. Thanks for taking 595 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 4: the time with us. 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We have 615 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: to wrap up today's show with the Bleacher Reports Top 616 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: one hundred quarterbacks ninety nine quarterbacks of all time. We 617 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: left off at at number eighty. Mikey, We'll take us 618 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: through the seventies here in just a second. Go ahead 619 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: is sorry, I was just. 620 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: Gonna say I really want to talk about Darren Peterson 621 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: and what everybody else in the sports world is talking to. 622 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 4: But no, we must get to this quarterback list. We 623 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 4: also must get to Philip in Virginia. 624 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: Yes we have to. I promised him. By the way, 625 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: we're big in Virginia. Tony in Virginia. You have to 626 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: call back tomorrow. 627 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, Tony, Yes, I will lead. 628 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: By the way I'm telling you right now, Sales is 629 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: going to have us do a show in Richmond. 630 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 4: Okay, car dealership somewhere. 631 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: Yes, and so what I will tell sales before they 632 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: ask me get me to Augusta first, and I will 633 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: do your Richmond, Virginia, you know, car dealership show. Okay, 634 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: I'll do it from the local metro Ford or something 635 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: like that. 636 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: I think I'm out on both. You don't want to 637 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: go to Augusta. 638 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: I mean, if it means I have to go to 639 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 4: a car dealership in Richmond, no. 640 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Philip in Virginia before we get 641 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: to the seventy ninth best quarterback of all time according 642 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: to the Bleacher Report. 643 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Philip, Hey, what's up? 644 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 10: Guys? So, third time, long time question for you? What 645 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 10: would be worse having an affair with your sister in 646 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 10: law or your mother in law? 647 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: Wow, Jesus, it's taking it to the next level. What 648 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: is worse? 649 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and say, so your wife's mom, right, 650 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: or your wife's sister. 651 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and say, you cross generations. You're 652 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 4: doing other types of damage that you don't even understand. Like, yes, 653 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 4: it's one thing, it's like oh my sister, but my mother, 654 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: it's just it's hits entirely differently, No pun intended. 655 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the brother situation that Tony Clark, yeah, 656 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: perhaps finds himself in. 657 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: There's an easy way out, right. 658 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: If you're the brother who does the cheating and you 659 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: want to make good with your brother, who you have 660 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: the audacity to do that too, you just say, hey, bro, 661 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: I was testing it out just to show you how 662 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: bad of a person is that you married. Okay, Like 663 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: I just wanted to show you. I've been trying to 664 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: tell you you wouldn't listen, So I did that. 665 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So you and your brother are good. Now what 666 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: about you and your wife? Oh? 667 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 4: I think that's the relationship that needs to be salvaged. 668 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: I say, Abbey, listen. I was doing it for my bro, 669 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: that's it, and she would understand. 670 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: I think I think we need to get the quarterback down. 671 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: It that Harry Wodidi of Sports Radio. 672 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: There it is love advice from Stu Gad. I mean, bro, 673 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: you wouldn't listen, so I had to. Okay, Mikey, we 674 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: left off at number eighty. Why don't you take us 675 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: through the eighties again. The Bleacher Report released the ninety 676 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: nine Greatest quarterbacks of all time. 677 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold not on the list. Take us to go ahead. 678 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be shocked if you were to say, release 679 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 4: the ninety nine greatest quarterbacks of all time in no 680 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 4: particular order, because it's the list so far has been 681 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 4: super questionable. 682 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: Yes, take us through the eighties and then pick up 683 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: where you left off. 684 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: All right, quick recap of the eighties eighty nine Don Meredith, 685 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 5: followed by Andy. 686 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: Dalton, Andy, Don Red Rifle, Norm. 687 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 5: Snead, Archie Manning, your grandfather, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, Frank Ryan. 688 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ron Jaworski go, thank you. 689 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 5: Jim McMahon at eighty one, and at eighty was Bernie Cosar, 690 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 5: which brings us to number seventy nine. 691 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: Brian Sipe, Brian Site, Brown's quarterback. Oh my god, he 692 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: was a good quarterback. Didn't win much, but that's like 693 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: most Browns quarterbacks. But Brian Side was certainly. 694 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 12: A very very serving Bernie Kozar. Yes, better than they're 695 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 12: right next to each other on the list. They had 696 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 12: to have looked at it and said, this guy, I 697 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 12: don't even know his name was a better Brown's quarterback 698 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 12: than Bernie Colesar. When Bernie Kosar is the first quarterback 699 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 12: I ever think of when. 700 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: I think of the Browns. 701 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: Interesting, Brian Sipe, I don't so Kozar went to a bunch. 702 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm breaking this down. A bunch of 703 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: AFC championship games never could beat Denver, Brian Sipe. But 704 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not certain how the stats match up. Semantics, all right, but. 705 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: They're right there and that they are. 706 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, Cuver your ears is he number seventy eight? 707 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: Don't take Culpepper? Wow? Wow, unbelievable. Man, I don't understand. 708 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't understand this. 709 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna need seventy some better quarterbacks than Dante Culpepper. 710 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: Yes, that's the quarterback that Nick feeling shows over Drew 711 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: Brees when he took over for the Dolphins. 712 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: Go ahead, seventy seven. 713 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 5: I have a feeling is he's about to walk out 714 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 5: when he hears who seventy seven is future Jet quarterback 715 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 5: Derek Carr. 716 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 4: What Derek Carr had a better career than Bernie Cose 717 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 4: A hard right? 718 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, yeah, keeping keep in mind. Sam Darnold 719 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: not on the list, so. 720 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: I might leave. But we have seventy six coming up, and. 721 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 6: It's a doozy number. Seventy six. Alex Smith. 722 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh really wow. I mean I gotta tell you that guy. 723 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: I mean, Andy Reid did him dirty. I mean, he 724 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: was doing fine getting AFC championship games and the hints 725 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: trolls Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid goes out and wins 726 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: with him. Terrible job by Reid. He would have won anyway. 727 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 4: I mean, I like Alex Smith there just because of 728 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 4: what Stugatz tried to explain there, that he is the 729 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 4: reason that it took so long for him to warm 730 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: up to Patrick Mahomes. Like Alex Smith was the guy 731 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: that said no, I will not have this Patrick Mahomes 732 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 4: taking what Alex Smith built. 733 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: Yes, if Alex Smith wasn't perfectly averaged, there would be 734 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: no Patrick Mahomes. You're right, So if Mahomes is won, 735 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: Alex Smith should be two. 736 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: Oh got this list? I forget where we left off 737 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: seventy five. 738 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 9: We're up to seventy five. 739 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 6: Last year, Stu Gotts would have had this person in 740 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 6: the top ten. 741 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts, Oh wow, I don't know what to think 742 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 4: about that. 743 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't made the argument yet, but you can 744 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: make a very strong argument that Jalen Hurts has been 745 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: every bit if not better than Patrick Mahomes over the 746 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: last five years. 747 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: I'll make that argument tomorrow. I will seventy. 748 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 6: Four seventy four undrafted. Jeff Garcia. 749 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 2: Wow, that guy ahead of Jalen Hurts. 750 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 4: Unbelievable, Jeff Garcia, I don't understand this list whatsoever. 751 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: Well, it's their list. 752 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 5: Seventy three, number seventy three. Stu Gotts, tug your heartstrings. 753 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 5: Vinnie testavert Ah finally a two time pro bowler. 754 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's got to be one more Jet quarterback on there, 755 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: and he doesn't deserve to be on it. 756 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: So get ready. 757 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 4: Dan Bayer number seventy two. 758 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 5: Yes, you took my line here, Dan byer Way in 759 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 5: number seventy two. 760 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 6: Dave Craig, Wow, all right. 761 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: Dan, Yes, Big Day did not have a better career 762 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 4: than Bernie Kosa. 763 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: Wait, Dan, you don't feel bad that David Craig is 764 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: on this list that Sam Darnold does. 765 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: Not should be higher? Who Craig? Yes? How about Donald 766 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: who could lead the NFL in fumbles? Dave Craig, Wait 767 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 2: till you're seventy one. I'm sorry, Dan, stop lashing out 768 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: of me. 769 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 6: Is I got to get you to close the list man. 770 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 5: Number seventy one, What do you do with future jet 771 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 5: quarterback again? 772 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. 773 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 4: Oh wow, a guy who not too long ago was 774 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 4: considered a joke. Seventy first at better than Berney Clozar. 775 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 2: A guy who was. 776 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: So good the falcon Son into a big contracted interracted. 777 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: Michael Pennick Junior, Jesus. I like Kirk Cousins though, and 778 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 2: number seventy. 779 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 6: Number seventy our first appearance of a leather helmet. 780 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 4: Dutch Clark Ah duchy, no idea. Can we get back 781 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 4: to E dog please? So ru So, what exactly did. 782 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: Mickey Mantle do? 783 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 12: He hit thirty home runs in thirty stolen bases for 784 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 12: four straight years, But if it. 785 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 4: Really mattered, he would have done it for seven. 786 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 2: Yes, what? And I just hold up eight fingers? Why seven? 787 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 2: I don't understand. He would have done it every year? 788 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 2: Was his point. 789 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 4: You know what E dogs should do? Exactly what Stu 790 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 4: Gats told him to do. 791 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: Yes, call back tomorrow, keen in tomorrow for quarterbacks number 792 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: sixty nine through sixty