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The three 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:34.160 ess For tonight's episode, the Border Wall is the big 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.440 story of the day and President Trump's emergency declaration, and 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.760 we'll play some audio from that in case you missed 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.000 it during the Your Busy Work Day from the Rose Garden, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.760 and he laid out sort of his case for why 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:49.520 there needs to be an emergency declaration declared on top 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.600 of the funding that was received in the recently negotiated 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:57.360 Continuing Resolution. And let's talk about that Continuing Resolution for 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.880 a second. You know, we're more than two years into 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:04.800 this presidency. Republicans had the presidency, the House, the Senate, 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.320 and the House and Senate did nothing to advance the 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:11.720 president's agenda really when it came to immigration period, full stop. 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.480 The fact that it ever had to come to this, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:18.919 this Continuing Resolution, twelve hundred pages released at three am 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.520 in the morning, ten pages of which were then released 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.720 after the fact Congressman themselves didn't even know where to 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.079 go for the full bill text is absurd and it's 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.080 really a slap in the face to the American people. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.160 Over about sixty three million people voted for this president 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.640 and the fact that there was insufficient border wall funding 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:40.120 the first two years, and now you have to deal 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:43.560 with this basically phony negotiation where the President had to 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.600 grit his teeth and say, I accept this bill, but 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.320 I really don't like this bill. It's a travesty, and you, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.760 as an American should take it as a slap in 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.320 the face that you're supposed representatives that this is the 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.680 best that they could come up with. So what was 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.080 in the bill. The bill is about more than the bill. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.400 The bill is representative of the disdand that our political 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:11.440 establishment has for you and I three hundred and twenty 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.440 eight billion dollar continuing resolution with a measly one point 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.120 four billion dollars for the border wall. Now one point 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.719 four billion dollars is a lot, but in context of 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.159 the federal budget in a given year, where the federal 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.040 budgets well over three trillion dollars, probably close to four 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.719 trillion dollars at this point, it's nothing. It's nothing for 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.640 something as fundamental as territorial integrity, the job of the 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.400 government protect the homeland. That's number one. Peace and prosperity. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.320 In order to have peace, you have to have a 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:43.800 secure border. So three hundred twenty eight billion dollars one 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.400 point four for the wall one point three seven five. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.039 Of course, there are strings attached to this one point 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.920 three seven five. And consider by the way the strings 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.480 attached to this versus the lack of strings attached to 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.560 all the other asinine things that come out of Washington, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.720 hidden deep within these bills that you'll never know about 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:07.520 because they are twelve hundred pages. So, first of all, 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.280 this wall funding one point four billion dollars, it's limited 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:14.159 to the Rio Grand sector. It's not just limited to 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.400 a fifty five mile area along the southern border in 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.880 the Rio Grand Valley of Texas and restricted so you 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.919 can't use it in a series of other areas that 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.599 they lay out, other areas which need secure fencing as well. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:32.960 But there are two strings attached that really it just again, 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.560 it's more than disdain. It's just spitting in your face. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.279 It's like a big joke that you can have a 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.240 twelve hundred page bill and have a couple provisions like these. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.520 Section two twenty four A. I'll read it verbatim. None 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.200 of the funds provided by this Act may be used 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.520 by the Secretary of Homeland Security to place in detention, 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:54.200 Remove refer for a decision whether to initiate removal proceedings 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:59.040 or initiate removal proceedings against a sponsor, potential sponsor, or 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.839 member of a house of a sponsor or potential sponsor 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.080 of an unaccompanied alien child. Let me simplify that for you, 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.880 because there's a lot of sponsors in there, and this 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:13.200 is typically loyally in the way that it's crafted. This 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:17.280 is a magnet for folks coming here and not being deportable. 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.240 That's what this is. You come with an unaccompanied alien 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:24.960 child referred to by the acronym UAC frequently, you can't 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.880 be thrown out. Think about what the incentive is there. Then, 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.240 of course you want to be a sponsor or, a 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.800 potential sponsor or, a member of a household of a 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.000 sponsor or, a potential sponsor of an unaccompanied alien child. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:42.280 Because per section two twenty four A, you can't be 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.040 placed in detention, removed, or referred to a decision for 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.280 a decision whether to initiate removal proceedings. You can't be deported. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:54.159 That's what it's saying. Here's another piece of text layered 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.000 into the bill, Section two thirty two A. Prior to 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.359 use of any funds made available by this Act for 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.640 the construction of physical barriers within the city limits of 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.520 any city or census designated place. Department of Homeland Security 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.919 and the local elected officials of such a city or 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:13.440 census designated place shall confer and seek to reach mutual 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.600 agreement regarding the design and alignment of physical barriers within 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.840 that city or the census designated place. Translation, local officials 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:23.680 are going to be the ones to determine where the 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.600 wall goes up and what kind of wall it is, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.200 design and alignment of physical barriers. And oh, by the way, 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:36.160 it just so happens my understanding that those areas those 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.520 municipalities jurisdictions in the Rio Grand Valley, well they happen, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.400 of course, be pretty much all blue districts. So what 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.480 do you think is going to happen then with that funding? 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.360 You know, there's other elements of this as well. There's 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.200 potentially a doubling of the amount of people in the 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:55.400 capped guest worker program hbtwo program, And you know we 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.760 can talk about that, and I guarantee you they're about 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.200 a thousand other things layered into this bill that make 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.600 you and I go crazy what it represents. Again, not 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.400 just a slap in the face to us and a 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.480 slap in the face to the president, but a total 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:12.560 dereliction of duty, a total lack of sincerity, of care, 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.600 of faithfulness to us as the citizen. You know what 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.000 the wall itself represents. It's not about the physical barrier. Yes, 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.080 of course, a physical barrier is necessary as one element 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.360 of having truly secure borders, because the first thing is 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.800 secure borders at home, and then we can worry about 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.160 the trillions of dollars that have been spent overseas that 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.600 haven't necessarily made us any safer. But it starts with homeland, 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.960 protecting the homeland. What does a wall represent. It represents 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:43.199 national sovereignty, priority number one essentially of a government, and 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.960 in the Constitution it talks about the need for the 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.720 government to protect us from invasion, which we essentially have 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:54.200 in which the emergency declaration today represents. It represents faithfulness 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.120 to the citizenry, it represents strength, it represents a pact 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.200 with us that the government respects us and they understand 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.360 that we are the number one responsibility, we the people, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.320 and if not, they should all be thrown out of office. 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.400 That's what the wall represents for us for they left 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.599 for the Robert Francis O'Rourkes of the world, because I 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.360 will refuse to refer to him by that moniker, the 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:23.680 Beto moniker for folks like him. He says, let's tear 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.720 down the walls that exist today. How would that work 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.000 out for the country? Exactly? You know, the left makes 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.400 the argument it's immoral. A wall is immoral. Well, what 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.680 could be more moral than protecting the life and limb 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:41.120 of citizen ry? Okay, survival is moral, especially survival from 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.640 some of the worst people in the world. These drug 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.160 traffickers and incidentally terrorists and the terrorist groups that work 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.320 with the drug traffickers and child traffickers to get into 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.880 this country cause lots of crime, billions of dollars in damages, 0:09:53.920 --> 0:10:00.120 all the associated cultural costs. They say, that's immoral. Okay. 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.079 The wall for us represents a citizen rate. For the left, 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:09.080 it represents an affront to multiculturalism and a lack of 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.200 concern that they have for the citizen ry because they 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.880 believe that everyone that there should be no borders, that 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:18.280 we're all the same, there's no differences in cultures. Well, 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.240 except that they know that their culture is superior to 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:26.280 deplorable culture. What they really care about at the end 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.520 of the day, what this is really all about, of course, 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.360 is the fact that the left wants the country overrun. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.080 They at their core believe in some of them believe 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.240 in open borders because ideologically that's really where they are, 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.439 and they are really that deluded to think that there 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.800 is no difference between different peoples everywhere, and that's a 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.080 citizenship is something that should be treated cheaply and taken lightly. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.200 And then for the others it is more cynical and political. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.040 And a little bit later today we're going to talk 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.920 about one of the ways in which even absence and 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:02.520 amnesty in this country, mass illegal immigration to this country 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:06.400 actually gives the left substantial political power already full stop. 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.400 So before there is down the road, presumably some kind 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.080 of mass amnesty, the way that things are trending in 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:16.000 our political class, already there is power to having our 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:21.560 borders overrun. And that's really the point ultimately is that 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.120 this is a cynical power play from the left, though 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.840 it's sort of it's the old Cloward Piven overload the 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.760 system to force a change, overload the system, where illegal 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.719 aliens overload the system with government spending, put as much 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.360 power within the state as possible, doll out as much 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.120 our jest as possible. It all works in their favor 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.480 if you're a progressive, because a bigger state means more 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:49.480 power for you. That's where the left is right now. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.480 But those on our side, quote unquote, we're talking about 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.760 a percentage of a percentage that really actually believes in 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.280 faithfulness to the Constitution, and faithfulness and fidelity to the 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:06.800 American people, and again to national sovereignty and territorial integrity 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.720 and citizenship itself. Citizenship itself is not a cheap word. 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.000 It's something to be held in very high esteem. And 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.480 for those immigrants who came here legally and actually had 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.280 to work for it, as opposed to spitting in the 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.000 face of those who are just abrogating the system, they 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.120 value that citizenship a lot of times, probably more highly 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.320 than folks who were born here and take it for granted. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:33.880 I'm sorry to say. The reality of the situation is 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:39.040 that there's a bipartisan establishment, and that bipartisan establishment believes 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.520 essentially in open borders, some of them to different degrees. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.040 It's open borders on the left and on the right, 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.120 what is it. It's cheap labor. That's sad on both sides. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.320 It should be an affront to every concerned American. It 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:56.760 really should. If we could actually go to clip ten 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.520 Mark Meadows talking about the border wall, he speaks a 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:07.600 little bit about this. This is a president who has 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.800 performed over and over and over again. He's moved the 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:16.439 embassy to Jerusalem. He's brought back jobs from China to America. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:20.600 The economy is roaring. We've got a number of people 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.120 that were hostages brought home. Every time they say he 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.400 won't do it, he does do it. He's going to 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.960 do it this time. I'm confident of that. I believe 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.160 that he will take it executive action to make sure 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.839 he gets the dollars that he needs to make sure 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.000 that that wall gets built. Congress won't do his job. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.680 Quite frankly, we could have done a lot better. We 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.040 could have given him the five point seven billion that 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.880 he requested, But instead he's having to embark on a 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.320 three step process that I applaud. I mean, you know, 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.880 I can tell you that I wish that the executive 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.920 branch would have less ability to do things on their own. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.720 That was House Freedom Caucus chair, Mark Meadow, and of 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.840 course he called for executive action and he got it. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.199 This is Ben Winegarden in for Buck Sexon on the 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.880 Buck Sexon Show eight four nine zero zero Buck. That's 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.280 two eight two five eight four four nine zero zero 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.520 two eight two five. Follow me on Twitter at bh 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.040 Winegarden and apologize about that. The guys behind the glass 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.240 played a little joke on me before the break. We 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.720 now have the Mark Meadows clip. You've heard him. I 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.480 wholeheartedly agree with Mark Meadows. I suspect a lot of 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.880 you do too. No one wants the executive to have 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.800 to have the authority or to have to take a 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.680 measure like the President is taking, and it's clear that 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.840 he was very begrudgingly taking this measure as well. In fact, 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.120 in comments today he sort of went over why a 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.440 national emergency here is merited and then also why he 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.640 knows it's going to get caught up in litigation. If 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.240 we could go to quip six to Trump talking about 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.000 the national emergency in the wall, we're going to be 0:14:52.080 --> 0:15:05.160 signing today and registry National emerg Agency. And it's a 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.720 great thing to do because we have an invasion of drugs, 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.960 invasion of gangs, invasion of people, and it's unacceptable. I 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.920 could do the wall over a longer period of time, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.680 I didn't need to do this, but I'd rather do 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.120 it much faster, and I don't have to do it 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:21.840 for the election. I've already done a lot of wall 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.640 for the election twenty twenty. And the only reason we're 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.840 up here talking about this is because of the election. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.000 That was the President speaking at the Rose Garden this afternoon, 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.520 explaining justifying the need to call for a national emergency. Here, 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:42.280 let me say what the real national emergency is in America. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:47.280 It's that our leaders don't represent us. The media, the 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.680 left they love, they love to talk about, oh, dictatorship, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.520 unprecedented violation of norms. They are actually the ones who 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.880 are violating the norms here because they don't care about 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.400 securing the country. We spend I mentioned before, we've spent 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.720 trillions of dollars overseas on engagements, and you'd be very 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.760 hard pressed. I'd be interested to hear from some of 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.520 you a bit later tonight, what has been the actual 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:17.200 outcome of Afghanistan. You know, we're there seventeen and eighteen years, 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.600 approaching twenty years. Maybe there will be some kind of 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.320 negotiation to get out of there. Can you define what 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.280 are the three seminole achievements of our time in Afghanistan? 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.120 What about in Iraq? It's pretty clear that Iraq has 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.880 become in many ways a proxy for Iran. It should 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.120 have been a counterbalance for it. Now it's a proxy 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:39.600 for it. So we've wasted all of this blood and 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.200 treasure overseas. And I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.120 things that we need to be doing overseas, because I'm 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.760 as ardent accounter g hottest as you'll find, and I 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:48.800 believe in taking it to the enemy when they pose 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:53.280 a threat to US national interests. But it starts at home. 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.440 And if we don't have home right, then everything else 0:16:55.520 --> 0:17:00.360 is in big trouble, big trouble. So what did the 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:06.520 President do with this invocation of his authority under the 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:11.280 National Emergency Act? Essentially he was able to identify, according 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.480 to the White House, eight up to eight point one 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:17.480 billion dollars available to build the border wall post declaration, 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.800 with additional funds having been reprogrammed. And so there's six 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.960 hundred and one million from the Treasury forfeiture fund, there's 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.040 up to two and a half billion from the DoD 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.720 funds Department of Defense funds transferred for support for counter 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.679 drug activities under Title ten and of the US Code, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.200 Section two eighty four. There's up to three point six 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.000 billion dollars reallocated from the Department of Defense military construction 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:44.080 projects under the President's Declaration of a National Emergency Title ten, 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.720 US Code Section twenty eight O eight. And we'll talk 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.000 about the legal wranglings a bit later. Allow me to 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.760 allow me to have the President explain how he thinks 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.399 this is going to go down legally Quip seven, if 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.639 you would. Guys, we will have a national emergency, and 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.240 we will then be sued, and they will sue us 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.560 in the Ninth Circuit even though it shouldn't be there, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.159 and we will possibly get a bad ruling, and then 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.959 we'll get another bad ruling, and then we'll end up 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.720 in the Supreme Court, and hopefully we'll get a fair 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:18.840 shake and we'll win in the Supreme Court. There you 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.600 have it. I think that's pretty wise legal analysis from 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:25.640 the President right there. In fact, the legal challenges are 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.320 already starting to fly this afternoon or this morning. Even 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.880 it might have been reported that Alexandroocazio Cortez and Joaquin 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.479 Castro are going to introduce legislation to try to block 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.679 the president's use of a national emergency here, and actually 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:42.960 the ACLU has tweeted as well that they're going to 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.920 be attacking it, and some folks are pointing to comments 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.360 from the President later on during this Rose Garden address 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.320 where he talks about, you know, I didn't want to 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:52.919 do it this way, we didn't need to do it 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:54.560 this way, but we have to do it this way. 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:56.680 And of course his words are going to be parsed 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.160 by the Ninth Circuit, as he mentioned, and we will 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.960 get into the legal wranglings of this. I do think 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.919 it will become very clear throughout this episode that legally 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.280 the president is on very sound footing, and we can 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.520 talk about executive power, separation of powers and the like, 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.639 but this is more a political question in reality than 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.720 a legal question, and it is sad that it has 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.840 come to it at this point. This is Ben Winegarten 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.240 in four Bucks Sexon on the Buck Sexton Show. Call 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.800 in lines are open eight four four nine zero zero Buck. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.240 That's eight four four nine zero zero Buck two eight 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.280 two five eight four four nine zero zero two eight 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.359 two five. We'll be right back and talk about the 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:40.760 census citizenship question. Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.560 This is Ben Winegarden in four buck Sexton lines are 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.720 open eight four four nine zero zero two eight two 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.960 five eight four four nine zero zero two eight to five. 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:54.000 Follow me on Twitter at b H. Winegarden. All right, 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:58.159 we've been talking about the President's national emergency, sovereignty, border 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.879 wall funding and the like. Let's hear what you have 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.080 to say. Let's go to the phone, starting with doctor 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:09.359 Rick from Silver Spring, Maryland. Hello, doctor Rick. Yes, Hi, 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.719 good evening, and I tell you I could not be 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.720 more upset about this whole matter. Buck Show last night. 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.680 I think he did a great job talking about all 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.159 the problems with the bill. I think it you know, 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:23.960 I agree with him. I think it does more harm 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:27.320 than good, and I kind of wish the President had 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.160 said distinct stinks. I'm not going to say yes, and 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.280 I'm going to shut down the government again. But I 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.359 want to get your take on it. Ben. Yeah, you know, 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:41.399 my opinion of it is this the bill cuts both ways. Obviously, 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.119 there are provisions in there that the incentive structure is terrible. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.240 From the perspective of sovereignty, and it cuts against the 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.600 president's agenda, which is part of the reason that I've 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.840 argued that, look, even in getting this one point four billion, 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:55.879 which is a fraction of the five point seven billion, 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.560 which is a fraction of the twenty five billion, that 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:00.960 even with that, they had to fight him tooth and 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.320 nail through the shutdown and then put in all of 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.159 these potential poison pills, these land mines, as they've been 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.760 described by some within the bill. So again, I think 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.879 it's a reflection of Congress and a smack in the 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:17.960 face of sixty three million Americans now in terms of 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.800 what would the president's best strategy have been in this scenario. 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.200 There are a lot of folks who were advocating for 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:28.000 maybe a one or two week continuing resolution to allow 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.840 folks to actually examine the twelve hundred pages. God forbid, 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.199 we took more than two or three days seventy two 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:35.560 hours to look at what was actually in the thing. 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.719 Although of course we could have all guessed that there 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:41.200 would be things in the bill that were egregious. I 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.160 suspect that if you were in those White House conversations 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.840 about strategy here, the reality was that they said, given 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.600 the calendar and where we are relative to twenty twenty, 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.000 and how long legal challenges would potentially take, and how 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.320 much time has already been wasted on this, that this 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.960 was probably the end of the line, and we'll take 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.000 the one point four bill in because it's better than 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.480 nothing else. We'll live to fight another day. We'll get 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.000 the incremental funding to get to over five point seven 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.800 billion potentially all in, and there will be a court fight. 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:13.480 Hopefully the bulldozers will get rolling well before election day 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.800 twenty twenty. Although it's worth noting that the President talked 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.159 about twenty twenty and the political element of this, and 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.600 the press will say, you know, they love to say, oh, 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:25.240 this is Trump's vanity project. It's not Trump's vanity vanity project. 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.200 It's that he made a promise to the American people 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.160 that represents all those things that I mentioned in my monologue, 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:34.680 fidelity and faithfulness to the Constitution, and territorial integrity, and 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:36.600 the fact that it is imperative that we get a 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:40.359 handle on our homeland. So that's really my opinion of it. 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.760