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Speaker 1: Mobley helped the Cavaliers hold off the Hawks one twenty
Speaker 1: two one sixteen. Donovan Mitchell scored thirty one points. Evan
Speaker 1: Mobley almost had a twenty twenty game. He had twenty
Speaker 1: two points. And tied their career high with nineteen rebounds.
Speaker 1: James Harden chipped in with twenty one points. The Cavs
Speaker 1: have won fourth straight and seven of eight. Cleveland fifty
Speaker 1: one and twenty nine, can finish no lower than fourth
Speaker 1: place in the Eastern Conference, and they're currently a half
Speaker 1: game behind the Knicks for third. The Hawks have dropped
Speaker 1: two of the two have dropped their last two after
Speaker 1: winning fourth straight. They're one game ahead of Toronto for
Speaker 1: the fifth seed, and but only one of a half
Speaker 1: game in front of Orlando to avoid the playing Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys can see it, but
Speaker 1: Detroit is comfortably in front. They're three and a half
Speaker 1: games in front of the Celtics, so they're fifty eight
Speaker 1: and twenty two. The Celtics are fifty four and twenty five.
Speaker 1: The Knicks are fifty one and twenty eight. The Cavaliers
Speaker 1: are fifty one and twenty nine. Hens the half game back,
Speaker 1: the Hawks are forty five and thirty five. Toronto is
Speaker 1: forty four and thirty five, The Magics are forty four.
Speaker 2: And thirty six. The Sixers are forty three and thirty six.
Speaker 1: Charlotte is forty three and thirty seven, and the Miami
Speaker 1: Heat are forty one and thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Joe, what's going on with y'all?
Speaker 3: Oh man, we just had a little bump in the
Speaker 3: roll again, Oh Joe. I thought we played a great
Speaker 3: game tonight. We scored enough points, great playoff ball game,
Speaker 3: great playoff atmosphere.
Speaker 2: We just couldn't come up with the win. Man.
Speaker 3: I thought we had a lot. We had what seven
Speaker 3: guys in double figures, So it was a pretty good game.
Speaker 3: I thought we was actually gonna pull away. You know,
Speaker 3: we were playing great ball at one point, and then
Speaker 3: you know, Donovan just kind of took over the game.
Speaker 3: But I think if we end up playing the Calves,
Speaker 3: if the Hawks end up playing the Calves in the playoffs,
Speaker 3: it'll probably go seven games.
Speaker 2: Fellas. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe, you guys, you mentioned you had seven
Speaker 1: guys in double figure all five of your starters. Nikhil
Speaker 1: Xanda Walkers still walking is still playing unbelievable twenty five
Speaker 1: points on ten or nineteen shooting, But you got thirty
Speaker 1: off the bench for thirty minutes. Kaminga gave you eleven
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four points when you get that.
Speaker 2: Kind of offering production.
Speaker 1: I mean, you shot forty eight percent from the floor,
Speaker 1: you're right there with the rebounding. You gotta Those are
Speaker 1: the games, Joe, And we've seen this before. The last
Speaker 1: couple of games, is that you guys have a lead
Speaker 1: because you led a lot of this game and then,
Speaker 1: like you said, Donovan ended up taking the game over
Speaker 1: late in the ball game. But these are the type
Speaker 1: of game these are These are actually playoff type games,
Speaker 1: because these are the type of games that you're gonna
Speaker 1: be involved with more times than not. The likelihood of
Speaker 1: your your starters being out a midway through the third
Speaker 1: quarter or to sit there in tire fourth quarter, that's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen very often. You might get one of
Speaker 1: those games, if you're fortunate enough to make it all
Speaker 1: the way through the NBA Finals, you might get one
Speaker 1: game where your starters get the rest for the entire
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Other than that, it's gonna be clutch time.
Speaker 1: Possessions matter, turnovers matter, And so I think that the and.
Speaker 2: I know the Falcons had to excuse the Facons.
Speaker 1: The Hawks had this great stretch Joe, where they had
Speaker 1: won like twelve thirteen in a Row. The last thing
Speaker 1: that you want to do is kind of like tail
Speaker 1: slide going into the playoffs. You want to kind of
Speaker 1: keep that same momentum going. You don't want to win
Speaker 1: thirteen and then lose your last four and then get
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and find yourself You was probably right
Speaker 1: there at the fourth seat and now all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you find yourself in the playing That wouldn't be
Speaker 1: good for them.
Speaker 3: Now, I think we're gonna pick it up, you know,
Speaker 3: understanding what's his stake and where we're at in the
Speaker 3: standings and how close and tight of a race it is,
Speaker 3: I think we'll pick it up. Look, Jalen Johnson ain't
Speaker 3: gonna he ain't gonna go four for sixteen every night.
Speaker 2: You know, you know he didn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't have a great game, but we were still
Speaker 3: in the game tour, we still had a chance to win.
Speaker 3: He filed out that, he filed out, Daniels filed out.
Speaker 3: So I think we can take some positives from this. Now,
Speaker 3: it's Cleveland a great team. Yes, they have two games,
Speaker 3: actually three game changes uh En Hardened, uh Mobley.
Speaker 2: And Mitchell, So they gonna be it's gonna be tough
Speaker 2: to beat. Them.
Speaker 3: But I think we got the squad they can do it.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I think if we if we, if
Speaker 3: we end up playing the Calves, I do think this
Speaker 3: would be a seven game series because it's fairly even
Speaker 3: if you really pay attention to the game.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I thought the Hawks mucked it up on the road.
Speaker 3: We just couldn't come up. We just couldn't come up
Speaker 3: with the big plays down the stretch to get us
Speaker 3: over the hump. But we had guys who stepped up. Look,
Speaker 3: Kaminga played a hell of a game. I thought. Gabe
Speaker 3: Benson came in and gave us some great minutes as well.
Speaker 3: And that's what you need. He was doing me a
Speaker 3: collective team effort.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: For to to be able to win on the road
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, you got to be a great playoff team. Okay,
Speaker 3: oh Joe, you have to win games on the road.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to win at least one game on
Speaker 3: the road.
Speaker 1: Especially if you don't have home Now, if you have
Speaker 1: home court, you can you can just win all your
Speaker 1: home games, be straight. But when you do that, you
Speaker 1: have no margin forever because if somebody you mess right
Speaker 1: to have an offshooting night and somebody gets you and
Speaker 1: you're not a really good role team because you're right, Joe.
Speaker 1: At some point time, look at or Okay, see they
Speaker 1: had to win a game on the road.
Speaker 2: They are against it. Think about it again, Denver.
Speaker 1: Denver got a game in order for them to get
Speaker 1: keep it going, they had to go steal a game back.
Speaker 1: I think Indiana. I think Indiana stole a game from them.
Speaker 1: They had to go to Indiana and steal a game back.
Speaker 1: So you're absolutely right. Great teams, Look, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be up here all the time, no matter how roudy
Speaker 1: your crowd are, no matter how much you love playing
Speaker 1: at home, you're gonna have a slip up. But you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to find a way to win a game
Speaker 1: on the road. And so the Hawgs, like you said,
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, did not play well. They had a couple
Speaker 1: of guys that had twelve points and that those are guys,
Speaker 1: like I said, Walker's been playing out of my mind.
Speaker 1: You got twenty four plus points from a kamingo who
Speaker 1: played unbelievab off off the bitch. You got thirty seven
Speaker 1: bench points, Joe, When you get that kind of production,
Speaker 1: because you're not used to getting that kind of production.
Speaker 2: You got a capitol, man, you.
Speaker 3: Got I agree, and uh, you know, I know uh
Speaker 3: uh our coach he does a great job. He does
Speaker 3: a great job and making adjustments. And yeah, coach Quinn,
Speaker 3: he makes he does a great job and making an adjustments.
Speaker 3: So we still got a few games left. I don't
Speaker 3: want us to get in that playing so we need
Speaker 3: to we need to take care of business here at home.
Speaker 3: Uh Friday, I think we play here. I actually think
Speaker 3: we play Cleveland again. Yeah, so that's gonna be a
Speaker 3: hell of a game. That's gonna be like a Game seven.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be playoff atmosphere, and I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: Man, it should be a phone.
Speaker 1: You want to stay in the five spot and hey,
Speaker 1: guess what and play Cleveland in the first round h
Speaker 1: five matchups? Right, But Quinn Snyder, you know how to
Speaker 1: look here. You coach Donovan mitched for another year. You
Speaker 1: know how to deal with it, and you know what
Speaker 1: he's more than doing. So you better find a you better,
Speaker 1: you better turn it light out. If you don't, we've
Speaker 1: seen him score seventy of the game. We've seen him
Speaker 1: have playoff games where you get fifty seven, him and
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray going back and forth. He gets fifty seven,
Speaker 1: Jama comes back with a fifty. He comes back with
Speaker 1: a fifty piece. Hey, he's a guy that can get hot.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, but there you do it. You can't hear me,
Speaker 1: I hear you now? Oh yeah, I'm right here. I'm
Speaker 1: right here. Just scream with y'all. Hey, listen, listen. Where
Speaker 1: you look at Jobley? You look at Evan Mobley?
Speaker 3: I mean hell, he had nineteen rebounds, twenty two points.
Speaker 3: My thing is when you when you play Cleveland, you
Speaker 3: got to cut one of them big three off, like okay,
Speaker 3: James Harden may he may get his, Mitchell may get his,
Speaker 3: But you can't let Evan Mobley, you know, be a
Speaker 3: game changer like he was tonight.
Speaker 1: You can't do it. Yeah, you gave up thirty. We
Speaker 1: gave up thirty one to Mitchell. You gave up twenty
Speaker 1: one to Harden James and shoot, well, Mitch was sensational.
Speaker 1: Mitch had was twelve. He turned it on, so you
Speaker 1: can you Yeah, and you got vid Mobley was eight
Speaker 1: or fifteen, And like you said, Joe, he gave it
Speaker 1: twenty two and nineteen almost a twenty twenty game. And
Speaker 1: then you got Jared Allen. You know, Jared Allen's gonna
Speaker 1: be official because all he's gonna do is rim run.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get lobs, he's gonna get put backs, he's
Speaker 1: gonna get tippions. So you're not really running an offense
Speaker 1: for him, but you gotta keep him up past and
Speaker 1: I thought you I just feel like the Hawks. I
Speaker 1: feel like we got more talent than Cleveland, Like we
Speaker 1: got more guys who we can depend on that's gonna
Speaker 1: play pivotal minutes and play huge in those minutes versus Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Cleveland gonna rely on Donovan and Hardened to carry the
Speaker 3: lower Yeah. You know, you know Evan Mobley, he gonna
Speaker 3: give you a ten point game, a rebound, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, he ain't gonna be He ain't gonna be doing
Speaker 1: it like this every night. Yeah, I don't expect you
Speaker 1: know that. I don't expect that either. I think the
Speaker 1: question is Joe is that?
Speaker 2: And now?
Speaker 1: And plus we know Harden has his playoff pickups. He's
Speaker 1: had him everywhere he's been, even when he was the
Speaker 1: sixth man in OKC. Go back and look at that
Speaker 1: game look at some of those games that he had
Speaker 1: against Miami, go back and look at Houston, go back
Speaker 1: and look at Philly. We've seen him have a fifty
Speaker 1: point game and do go crazy against Boston and then you're.
Speaker 2: Like, bro, what that happened?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Happen right?
Speaker 1: So you know hey, and he has the record for
Speaker 1: the most turnovers in the postseason game, which is I
Speaker 1: think it's fourteen, twelve or fourteen. So we know what
Speaker 1: James Harden, there's a great chance that he'll have one
Speaker 1: of those games that leaves you scratching your head. You're like, God, damn,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he has one of those games.
Speaker 1: And he's had one of those games everywhere he's been.
Speaker 1: There's not one. There's not one stop on James harden
Speaker 1: resume where he hasn't had at least one of those
Speaker 1: games in the postseason.
Speaker 2: That you like, God damn. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think when you look at Quinn, he ain't
Speaker 3: gonna let James just play free like he was tonight.
Speaker 3: I know he missed a lot of shots, but it's
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of trapping making him get that
Speaker 3: ball up and we're gonna make some of these other
Speaker 3: guys make some plays versus you know, versus letting James
Speaker 3: go one on one, let Donovan go one on one.
Speaker 3: We're gonna see what some of these other guys can do.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yes, I think the problem that you run into like, okay,
Speaker 1: you give the ball up. Now, you do realize he's
Speaker 1: probably gonna give that ball up. He probably go give
Speaker 1: that ball up to Mitch. Now, Mitch, you come to
Speaker 1: trap Mitch, He's gonna swing it to one of those bigs.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta dump by Mobile or you gotta dump
Speaker 1: by Allen. That's the problem that you're because they're one
Speaker 1: of the few teams that play traditional they play two bigs.
Speaker 1: They play basically play two seven footas Evan Mobley and
Speaker 1: Jared Allen. Only okay, see really plays like that now
Speaker 1: them Okay see, nobody really plays like that. Everybody else
Speaker 1: got guys that you know that can play multiple positions.
Speaker 1: Those are two conventional They play eighty nineties style basketball,
Speaker 1: and so the problem that you're having to beat you
Speaker 1: up on the glass too. You gotta be real careful
Speaker 1: because like you said, Mobley had nineteen to night. You know,
Speaker 1: Jared Allen, Capa will give you a twenty twenty game,
Speaker 1: and he'll give you twenty points when you don't run
Speaker 1: not one offensive set for him.
Speaker 2: He'll get them on lobs, put back and rip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't scare me though. I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: honest with y'all. The Calves don't scare me. I feel
Speaker 3: like I feel like we'll take care of home court,
Speaker 3: whether we're the lowest seed or not. And I feel
Speaker 3: like we can go in Cleveland and still one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still one. We can go. And I know we
Speaker 2: can go in Cleveland and still one. This is a
Speaker 2: playoff game tonight.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: We were right in the game. We was up by nine,
Speaker 3: ten points, say one point. I looked up, Yes, sit
Speaker 3: damn how we get down by nine? But you know
Speaker 3: we end up fighting back, getting back in the game.
Speaker 3: You know, CJ. I feel like CJ. McCullum is gonna
Speaker 3: be a guy who you're gonna be able to rely
Speaker 3: on in the postseason. Ojo to where if we do
Speaker 3: get a little plant and stagnant offensively, he's a guy
Speaker 3: who can go out and get it. He's he understands,
Speaker 3: you know, who needs to touch the ball where the
Speaker 3: ball needs to go and being poised and patience, you know,
Speaker 3: understanding that he's been in these situations before and he
Speaker 3: thrives in him and he knows you know, this is
Speaker 3: a pointing year for CJ. Because I'm sure you know
Speaker 3: CJ would love to come back to Atlanta and play
Speaker 3: with the Hawks, you know what I mean, Like he
Speaker 3: gonna be a free agent at the end of the year.
Speaker 3: So I look forward to him, you know, having a
Speaker 3: huge playoff series against whoever we play in that first round.
Speaker 1: But if you look at some of your key contributors
Speaker 1: that you're really expecting to give you valuable minutes, you
Speaker 1: look at Dyson Daniels, he was five of eleven. Uh,
Speaker 1: CJ was six or sixteen. Jalen Johnson was four of sixteen.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, I need, I need, I need a look
Speaker 1: because because you did get great production out of Congo,
Speaker 1: you got great production out of Walk and you got
Speaker 1: great production out of Kamingo, they shall a very high
Speaker 1: percentage and for those guys, your key guys to struggle
Speaker 1: like they struggle tonight, Like like you said, I don't
Speaker 1: expect Jalen Johnson, I don't expect c J to have
Speaker 1: that kind of uh dictor Daniels didn't. I mean, he
Speaker 1: only took eleven shots. He's five or eleven, so you
Speaker 1: can live with that. But I just think the thing
Speaker 1: is like c J and and and uh Jalen Johnson,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have They're gonna have. One of those guys
Speaker 1: is gonna have to shoot a high percentage. You can't
Speaker 1: have two guys because the congru Congoo is getting dump.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did take two. He getting too. But he's
Speaker 2: a rim runner. He's a big that can run the rim.
Speaker 1: You can throw him lobs, you know, you guys break
Speaker 1: down the defense and get to the hole and throw
Speaker 1: it up and he can finish it for you. So
Speaker 1: you're not It's not like you just running a whole
Speaker 1: lot of sets for him. He's not a big that
Speaker 1: you run sets for. He's not in bed, he's not
Speaker 1: a yo kitch.
Speaker 2: He's not win.
Speaker 1: But he's not a guy that you're actually running sets for. Bro,
Speaker 1: you got to get your you got to get it.
Speaker 3: But like you said, Jalen Johnson and CJ didn't play
Speaker 3: well today, Uncle Ocho. But look, man, we only lost
Speaker 3: by six points. Ain't like we got blew out by
Speaker 3: twenty and thirty. You know what, I mean, then you
Speaker 3: had the drawing board, Like, damn, I don't know what
Speaker 3: we can do. You know, we only lost by six points,
Speaker 3: and those guys didn't play great at all, So I
Speaker 3: don't expect that from them. You know, come Friday night
Speaker 3: here in Atlanta, I bet you it'll be a totally
Speaker 3: different game.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, it better be y'all going to behead, y'all
Speaker 1: ask to the player. Kate Cunningham returned with a double
Speaker 1: double as the Pistons routed. The Bucks won thirty seven
Speaker 1: to one eleven. Kate thirteen points, ten or sixs. In
Speaker 1: his return from injury. Kate hadn't played since sustaining a
Speaker 1: collapsed lung in a win against the Wizards on March seventeenth.
Speaker 1: He appeared comfortable, playing twenty six minutes in short stints tonight.
Speaker 1: Jalen Duran had twenty one points nine rebounds.
Speaker 2: JB.
Speaker 1: Bickerstaff kept all five starters under thirty minutes. The Pistons
Speaker 1: won for the six time in eight games. Well, I mean, hell,
Speaker 1: he could have paid him one of twenty five minutes.
Speaker 2: He played the box. They and turmoil right now? Did
Speaker 2: the boy ain't no more people? People?
Speaker 1: People got people got the deer head on the wall.
Speaker 1: Don't nobody feel the deer no more?
Speaker 2: He yo?
Speaker 1: You remember right right? Hell well, y'all got y'all got
Speaker 1: Bullwinkle over.
Speaker 3: Kate didn't even have to play tonight the way the
Speaker 3: way the Piston has been playing. They i mean, the
Speaker 3: Bucks got so much turmoil going over there.
Speaker 2: They didn't need k tonight.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure they tried to get him acclimated before
Speaker 3: the postseason started.
Speaker 1: To get him run. You got to get him some run, Joe.
Speaker 1: You don't want that man go into the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That lungs already.
Speaker 3: But they got so many they kind of they similar
Speaker 3: to the house too, because they got so many guys
Speaker 3: who they can throw at you in waves, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Guys played pivotal minutes throughout the season
Speaker 3: because k was out, you know, they were still able
Speaker 3: to still keep that that that that number one seed
Speaker 3: in the Eastern Conference. So that lets me know, man,
Speaker 3: they got Look, they got guys who can come off
Speaker 3: the bench and get to their chicken. Oh, Joe, the
Speaker 3: Pistons gonna be tough, man. They hang their head on defense,
Speaker 3: and they got a game change in k. They gonna
Speaker 3: they they're gonna be in good.
Speaker 1: Shape and you look, I think that a key for them,
Speaker 1: Joe is that come playoff time. How consistent can Duncan
Speaker 1: Robinson in her hand shooting the three?
Speaker 2: How can because we've seen Duncan Robinson catch fire with
Speaker 2: the heat and we've seen her you.
Speaker 1: Know where at rifle what he was in Atlanta, We've
Speaker 1: seen him in Sacramento, uh, in Chicago, so we know
Speaker 1: where he's capable. Can can they keep everybody on it
Speaker 1: from packing lane? Because because ca is gonna try to
Speaker 1: break down your defense. Now if you try to somebody
Speaker 1: saying help, I'm gonna kick it to one of those guys.
Speaker 1: And can They knocked down the three? But I agree
Speaker 1: with you. You know, He's like, look, it ain't gonna
Speaker 1: take much for us to beat them. They don't quit.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead, Let's go ahead and help him finish quitting.
Speaker 1: Let's jump on their asser.
Speaker 3: And they they tried to get you the Pissons. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell you out man, that Hornets team they scary,
Speaker 3: okay Ojo and oh man, if they get that a
Speaker 3: seed and you playing against the Pistons, playing the Hornets,
Speaker 3: hey man, I don't know if the I don't know
Speaker 3: if the Hornets can beat them, but I think they could.
Speaker 2: I think they'll make it. They're scared of the hell
Speaker 2: out of the make it very interesting they make seven games.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll make it seven Ojo.
Speaker 3: But I just like the Hornets, man, because they played
Speaker 3: great basketball. They play together, and if LaMelo can continue
Speaker 3: to play at this megastar level that he's been playing
Speaker 3: in for like the past month or two, man, they
Speaker 3: gonna be tough to beat.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: They got so many guys who could score the ball.
Speaker 3: They play the right way, they play hard, they gritty defensively.
Speaker 3: So they're a scary team, you don't. I mean, they
Speaker 3: are ascending. They've been ascending since about the new year,
Speaker 3: probably since about January February. So it ain't there ain't
Speaker 3: no team who you want to see, Bro. I watched
Speaker 3: them play against Boston other night. I think it was
Speaker 3: last night. If I mistaken, and they had control of
Speaker 3: the whole game and ended up losing, you know, in
Speaker 3: the second half. But for the most part, man, they
Speaker 3: can hang with anybody.
Speaker 1: The way they shoot the three, they're gonna get a
Speaker 1: bunch of them up and in that stretch that you
Speaker 1: was talking about Joe. In two months, a lot of
Speaker 1: them was falling. You go back and look and they
Speaker 1: were twenty or forty three. There was twenty five of
Speaker 1: this and they had I was like, well, damn, because
Speaker 1: you got Mellow, can go get you thirty on a
Speaker 1: given night? Love you thirty on a given night? Miller,
Speaker 1: you got Miles, you got Ridge and Bridges, So you
Speaker 1: got you got what?
Speaker 2: What? What? What goes my guy coming off the bench
Speaker 2: from Chicago? Uh uh oh? Kobe White? Yeah got yeah.
Speaker 1: So they got guys they they like you said, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they can beat them, but they can
Speaker 1: scare the hell out of them. They go like, damn,
Speaker 1: I sure we wouldn't have to play them in the
Speaker 1: first round, and and and and they're just young enough
Speaker 1: and not even enough you know any better?
Speaker 2: There you go, at you there you go.
Speaker 3: See when you don't understand the magnitude of the games
Speaker 3: because you rely on a few rookies, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Like anything can happen, bro, Like, look, I
Speaker 3: love konkok Nipple. He ain't just no spot up three
Speaker 3: point shooter. I've seen him going to dribble, shoot the mini,
Speaker 3: get to the basket like. They got a lot of guys, man,
Speaker 3: who can beat you in many different ways. You know,
Speaker 3: the Hornets have been a fun team to watch, they have,
Speaker 3: they have.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad to see I'm glad to seek back.
Speaker 1: I think it might be a little bit too late.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be able to qualify for
Speaker 1: any of the awards.
Speaker 2: H I mean, he's all out, damn.
Speaker 1: I mean he last played, he got injured against the
Speaker 1: Wizard on March seventeenth, and here he is coming back today.
Speaker 1: It's the eighth So he's a couple of that, you know,
Speaker 1: basically a couple of that short of being out a month.
Speaker 1: So I think he's probably missed too many games to
Speaker 1: be because I think he's gonna be a first He
Speaker 1: was gonna be a first or second team, no question.
Speaker 2: Now that's out of the equation.
Speaker 1: And what that does, O Joe and guys, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have probably two guys that miss it.
Speaker 2: And man, so that's three guys.
Speaker 1: So guess what that does, Guys, that brings somebody that
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna make it, that moved somebody from second team
Speaker 1: to first team, somebody from third team to second team,
Speaker 1: and that takes somebody three guys that weren't gonna be
Speaker 1: make it, they're gonna make it. And guess what that does.
Speaker 1: That puts them in line for a max or super
Speaker 1: mix contract.
Speaker 2: By the time. So here's the thing, NBA.
Speaker 1: While you tried to while you tried to do one thing,
Speaker 1: clean up something on one end, it up on the
Speaker 1: back end, because guess what you did. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: guys that probably are just like French players that they're
Speaker 1: gonna have an All NBA selection and all the NBA selections.
Speaker 1: That means, guess what, I'm in line for a max
Speaker 1: and a super max contract. So while you hurt somebody boy,
Speaker 1: you might've hurt a k or Luke or ant Man
Speaker 1: because they're already playing on that number and they and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you they'll they'll next year they'll be able
Speaker 1: to play and get right back there with you taking
Speaker 1: guys that might not be an All NBA selection again.
Speaker 2: And guess what don't matter. I got that. That's all
Speaker 2: that that's all that count that's all that counts.
Speaker 3: Because yes, when I when I when we go to
Speaker 3: the negotiating table, you know I got this in my
Speaker 3: back pocket now what you're gonna tell me you got
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to run that little bread.
Speaker 1: You got to run that little bread. Oh Joe, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't. I don't know what you think,
Speaker 1: but this is what I know.
Speaker 2: What I know is that one.
Speaker 1: Of those three All nbas so that basically said, I'm
Speaker 1: a top fifteen selection. So guess what somebody was gonna
Speaker 1: be sixteen, seventeen eighteen, all of a sudden, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be thirteen fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: So now you get to add that extra year. Now
Speaker 1: you get to add fifty sixty million dollars in the
Speaker 1: fifty year. So NBA, I know you tried to do
Speaker 1: all good but no.
Speaker 2: Good d man.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's some guys looking at it, looking at
Speaker 3: it right now I'm talking about They're like, oh, we
Speaker 3: I know, I'm next to the Line'm gonna make third
Speaker 3: team now?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we're in the money. We're in the money.
Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a good thing for those players
Speaker 4: that are friends, players that might not ever have, might
Speaker 4: not ever have the opportunity, you know, to be first
Speaker 4: or second team All NBA selections where you get to
Speaker 4: get to get to that bag.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, joe, y'all remember club? What's it called? Came a?
Speaker 2: Oh look here money? Hey? Hey, hey, hey? What about Hey?
Speaker 2: What about trading places? One a man? And that's how
Speaker 2: it goes back.
Speaker 1: The fight between Giannis and Milwaukee over playing time just
Speaker 1: got a little bit more complicated. As it turns out,
Speaker 1: the real money on the line is that nobody's talking
Speaker 1: about publicly until now. Multiple sources said the Bucks decision
Speaker 1: to see Jiannis Antetokounmpo cost them significant bonuses in his
Speaker 1: Nike endorsement contract that would have been triggered if he
Speaker 1: played at least forty one games. That adds a lot
Speaker 1: of context behind Greek Freak's insistence on playing despite the
Speaker 1: team wanting to shut him down for the remainder of
Speaker 1: the season. The truth comes out, it just isn't about
Speaker 1: competitive pride. It's because he literally and financially incentives in
Speaker 1: a shoe contract. Milwaukee decision is costing him. I think
Speaker 1: it's two old. I believe obviously, man bro, they might
Speaker 1: add some extra years at ten fifteen to twenty million dollars. Second,
Speaker 1: who's who's on his team?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir?
Speaker 1: Now what of the likelihoods, pat rod Let's just say,
Speaker 1: for the take an argument to a piece, Joe, but
Speaker 1: he traded for what do you think the likelihood? Pat
Speaker 1: Rodders said, you know what, I want the two brothers
Speaker 1: to what do you think the like lived?
Speaker 2: Is that? Oo?
Speaker 4: And knowing pat Riley ain't good? Okay, I'm just being
Speaker 4: honest with you. Unless pat the side all of a
Speaker 4: sudden changed his wa what you what you know he's
Speaker 4: not gonna do because he's stuck to his guns since
Speaker 4: hell for how long now?
Speaker 2: And I don't think he was he was the head
Speaker 2: coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 4: Hey listen, if he didn't, if he didn't buzz for
Speaker 4: the king, he not Bud.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to get his ass in line like
Speaker 3: everybody else. And hey, look, we traded for Yanna, your
Speaker 3: damn brothers and then they're gonna have to figure it out.
Speaker 2: But they gave we yell they he ain't doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what's funny is when I think about
Speaker 4: the NBA and I think about the powers that the
Speaker 4: players have. One of the few, one of the few
Speaker 4: organizations where the players have the power, not the you know,
Speaker 4: the owners of the gym to the gym of the
Speaker 4: head coaches is if yanna say, if I say I'm
Speaker 4: healthy and I want to play, Hell, he.
Speaker 2: Should be able to. You would think the way they operate.
Speaker 4: Hell, I'm gonna put my uniform on and I'm going
Speaker 4: in the starting lineup, no matter what y'all say, no
Speaker 4: matter what you think.
Speaker 1: Now that didn't it? Now you get Now you're appording it.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna take some more. I'm gonna take your
Speaker 1: money from you. Is that what you want? Conduct detrimentals
Speaker 1: of the team. Yeah, that what you want? Now get Yeah,
Speaker 1: at least at least Joe right now you know this,
Speaker 1: he get your bread, you do something like that. Now
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta take content. Yeah, yeah, and them checks,
Speaker 1: them checks probably three. Really what you want?
Speaker 4: I know, I know what they're looking like. Well, you
Speaker 4: ain't got to tell you, ain't got to tell me twice.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm gonna not now now you y'all doing
Speaker 2: me wrong. But I'm gonna sit on over here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but listen, huh, listen, you're shitting over there.
Speaker 4: You're obliging with what they want, but now you're messing
Speaker 4: up my shoe, money, my shoe money add.
Speaker 1: Up to you messed up my season by talking about
Speaker 1: you wanting to be traded, right, you messing up my money.
Speaker 2: You messing up my leverage ability to trade you. Right.
Speaker 1: You see, you see what you did? Okay, even swap
Speaker 1: ain't no slips wanderer. You mess my you mess up
Speaker 1: your trade value, I mess up your money. We both
Speaker 1: got some messed up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's funny you know what now that you
Speaker 4: said it like that, that's probably exactly how they think.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course, it's exactly what the thing is.
Speaker 2: It's protocol fellas.
Speaker 3: They just just because you say you healthy, man, Like
Speaker 3: I said before, you gotta show a something in practice
Speaker 3: before we just throw you out there on the floor,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I think Janni's as
Speaker 3: he He hasn't been one to, you know, cooperate when
Speaker 3: it comes to like playing two on two, three on three,
Speaker 3: to prepare to gauge and lead up to him getting
Speaker 3: out there playing five on five. He just feel like, shit,
Speaker 3: I'm healthy, So just put me out there. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: put up numbers. And they ain't willing to do it
Speaker 3: for a number of reasons, because look, you put.
Speaker 2: Him out there and he get hurt. Then what o jo.
Speaker 2: He's like the man, they ain't trying to deal with that.
Speaker 1: And you've had and what if we had over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, He's calves Cam lead to what
Speaker 1: Ki leads, Yah, you're not gonna do that. You're not
Speaker 1: really going to suppress the market. But here's the thing
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Oh yo, he says he wants
Speaker 1: to play. We took your word when you say you
Speaker 1: was hurt and you couldn't play. We took the word
Speaker 1: for it. Now you want us to take your word
Speaker 1: for it and say that you can play if we
Speaker 1: didn't question you. Now now all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: see and everybody knows I'm pro players, but sometimes when
Speaker 1: you start to own a business, you have to look
Speaker 1: at things from a business standpoint. And so that's what
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, okay, I can see. I can see
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. So all these concessions that they've made,
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer is that nobody is going to
Speaker 1: love you like your original of the team that drafted you.
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with a great ride receiver once
Speaker 1: and he's like, man, He's like oh, man, I need
Speaker 1: to just leave. And I say, I'm gonna tell you this,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be your decision, and I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: steal your wrong. I say, yeah, you can probably go,
Speaker 1: and you might win. I say, but they're not gonna
Speaker 1: love you like they do where you are because you're
Speaker 1: their own. They watched you come in, and they watched
Speaker 1: you grow in the community, and they watch you as
Speaker 1: a young man come into a full grown adult man.
Speaker 2: They watched that. It's the other team. They just gonna
Speaker 2: be happy to have you.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna be one of the other higher guns
Speaker 1: that they've had along the way.
Speaker 2: Nothing's gonna be special about you, Brona.
Speaker 1: He thought about it a couple of days, like, man,
Speaker 1: you're right, so y'all is go and think so he
Speaker 1: gonna be sweet? You think the Lakers? You think the
Speaker 1: Lakers love Lebron like they did in Cleveland. You think
Speaker 1: Miami loved Lebron like they did in Cleveland? Or do
Speaker 1: they love Dwayne Wade or do they love Kobe? Do
Speaker 1: they love shot huh? Or did they love Bam m hm?
Speaker 1: Or they love do they love Alonsol morning huh? See?
Speaker 1: And I think I don't think enough players think about
Speaker 1: it like that. It's like, man, I just need to go, go,
Speaker 1: go go. Okay, fine, I'm never gonna stand in the
Speaker 1: way of a person wanting to get his money.
Speaker 2: But just understands and when.
Speaker 1: They don't gravitate towards you like they did in your
Speaker 1: original Destiny location, you.
Speaker 2: Can't get mad. He just can't.
Speaker 1: You can't even even though and think about it. Even
Speaker 1: though a Lonzo uh Lonzo was at the Harness first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was at.
Speaker 2: The Harness first.
Speaker 1: People and people and for whatever reason he was, They're like, nah, nah,
Speaker 1: Zoe hours. He was not d Wade, he not Bam
Speaker 1: that are ogs. Yeah, that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So Janni's wherever you go and you might win a championship.
Speaker 1: I hope you do. They're not gonna love you like
Speaker 1: they did it.
Speaker 2: No, they not.
Speaker 3: But I bet you Jannis is thinking like this, Oh Joe.
Speaker 3: He thinking, Okay, I got two years left on my deal.
Speaker 3: But if they trade me this summer, then wherever I'm at,
Speaker 3: I can play and then the next time I can
Speaker 3: get that five years versus you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna get He got traded.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying he'll get to play, He'll get to
Speaker 3: play a full year wherever he got traded. Yes, so
Speaker 3: at the end of the next at the end of
Speaker 3: that season, they'll be able to offer him that big deal.
Speaker 1: I think once you get traded, Joe, I think that
Speaker 1: is Look that up, Ash, look that up. I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's what they try to do because
Speaker 1: they want to keep you at the So you say,
Speaker 1: he can't get so that's why they can offer you.
Speaker 1: That's why they can offer you that extra year, which
Speaker 1: is that fifth year at that bat number. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: look that up, Ash. I think I think now maybe
Speaker 1: if you stay for because a lot of times you
Speaker 1: have to. I think Luca could only sign a four
Speaker 1: year deal now if he once he plays, he can
Speaker 1: come back in because it's it's uh, Luca got traded
Speaker 1: in his contract year, right, No, I think he had,
Speaker 1: so it'll be the same as guy. Yeah, okay, okay. Oh,
Speaker 1: they would have never let him get that oh no,
Speaker 1: because remember that's what see, that's what Milwaukee said. Milwaukee says,
Speaker 1: signed the deal or we trade you, We're not gonna
Speaker 1: let you walk out the door, like Kate. That'd be
Speaker 1: foolish business. You can never let a guy. You can
Speaker 1: never let a guy of that caliber get to the
Speaker 1: last year of his deal, because if you do, he done,
Speaker 1: It's done.
Speaker 2: That's why, that's that's why they got it.
Speaker 3: That's why I think they gotta trade him this summer,
Speaker 3: fellas they can't bring him back, you know, considering everything
Speaker 3: that they're going through right now, I think I think
Speaker 3: Giannis is a little disgrunted. He probably will never come
Speaker 3: out and actually said or demand the trade, but I
Speaker 3: can bet you behind the scenes, they probably gonna be
Speaker 3: working when this season is over with to get him
Speaker 3: traded this summer for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh he gonna According to according to ESPN, Yiannis is
Speaker 1: eligible for a four year, two hundred and seventy five
Speaker 1: million dollar extension in October if he stays in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: If he's traded during the off season, he he wouldn't
Speaker 1: need to wait six months from the trade date to
Speaker 1: sign the extension, which would be four years.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 4: Ash, Yes, So, so he gonna get it no matter
Speaker 4: where you go.
Speaker 2: Then, Uh, I don't think you can.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if he can get that.
Speaker 1: So if he signed, if he signs, if he waits
Speaker 1: six months after the trade and sign the extension.
Speaker 2: How much?
Speaker 1: How much is the four year extension then, because it's
Speaker 1: kind of what they try what they try to do
Speaker 1: is kind of like what the NFL did o Joe
Speaker 1: because they didn't want the quarterbacks to leave. That's what
Speaker 1: the franchise tag was really, really, really a vision the
Speaker 1: key guys, the quarterbacks, your Bruce Smith, your Jerry's, your immage.
Speaker 1: You want to keep those guys, so we'll pay you
Speaker 1: the average of the top five.
Speaker 2: So what this is the.
Speaker 1: Max, the supermax is basically to keep because we can
Speaker 1: can give you something no other team can.
Speaker 2: We should offer that fifth year. The other team they
Speaker 2: give you four.
Speaker 1: Now, if you won't for four years at two five,
Speaker 1: oh that's good money.
Speaker 2: We can't give you five. We give you five years.
Speaker 3: But he depending on where he go though he can
Speaker 3: he can make it up and off the court, uh endorsements.
Speaker 3: Depending on where he goes because it's markets, because Milwaukee
Speaker 3: ain't on huge market.
Speaker 2: So if he was done, so he usuld go. Well,
Speaker 2: he need to get a harder deal. He should have
Speaker 2: got a hardly deal.
Speaker 4: Hey, I know, I know one market he can go to.
Speaker 4: He'll make it up no matter what the damn.
Speaker 2: Tax is gonna kick his ass though.
Speaker 1: Low California even worth thirteen point that state. And when
Speaker 1: you kick it and when you kick it in that
Speaker 1: that thirty six percent at the fan level. So he
Speaker 1: taking forty nine percent of your money and you got
Speaker 1: to kick a meticula and fighter. Your agent, fees, your attorneys.
Speaker 1: So when it's all done that, let's just say somebody
Speaker 1: getting one hundred million mm hmm, you down to probably
Speaker 1: like fall the seventh six after taxes, and you pay
Speaker 1: because they take it three and a half percent. Your
Speaker 1: agent take three and a half percent. Your financial guy
Speaker 1: gotta get his cut. Come on, think I working for free.
Speaker 1: You ain't working for free. Hey, you and I both
Speaker 1: know we got managers. We got we gotta we got agents. Bill,
Speaker 1: I've been paying money since ninety well my first couple
Speaker 1: of content, I ain't playing nothing because I had my
Speaker 1: brother's agent. He's like, nah, he ain't making no money.
Speaker 3: You can't charge what you're talking about when you see
Speaker 3: all that money you having to spend out like that,
Speaker 3: because I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Attorneys and height Belok.
Speaker 1: That's why that's why boy, that that Florida, that Miami.
Speaker 1: Don't sound bad, yes, and bad fellas. Hey, they got
Speaker 1: a chee wells they got they got no they ain't
Speaker 1: got no take. We ain't got no team in Vegas yet,
Speaker 1: just till you got a team Millik Heredall, Dallas, Houston, Dallas.
Speaker 2: Nope. I'm just trying to say where you have.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all notice, but thirteen percent when
Speaker 1: you're making that kind of money, you do realize thirteen
Speaker 1: percent if you're making fifty million.
Speaker 2: Dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Hey, hold up though, hold up, hold up, Heston got
Speaker 1: some pieces over there though, old children. Oh, I thought
Speaker 1: you you got something saying they got some two legged pieces.
Speaker 1: You talking about them quarter piece, the dying piece.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what you're talking about. But they got
Speaker 2: some pieces.
Speaker 3: They could they you know, if they underachieved this year,
Speaker 3: they could possibly get get up off of and bring
Speaker 3: Giannis over there with Kdill.
Speaker 1: I still think they need a point guard. I think
Speaker 1: van Fleet. I think they need van Fleet. I think
Speaker 1: he's the missing ingredient. They need a point you, they
Speaker 1: need doing guard. They do, but it's gonna Hey, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be some fun moving this summer, fellas. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about I think, oh, yeah, yeah, I know Brun just
Speaker 1: built that. I know he building that old half of
Speaker 1: minute a hundred million. What I can see Braun teaming
Speaker 1: up with some guys.
Speaker 2: Bro, where at Joe, what are you thinking about? Hey? Look,
Speaker 2: I can see Jannison Braun teaming up together.
Speaker 1: But you know what, if I'm Lebron man, I'm done
Speaker 1: chasing rings. I'm gonna go to a bad team because
Speaker 1: we've seen on a bad team what he can do
Speaker 1: as the number one or number two options.
Speaker 2: Lebron can still give you twenty five to six a night.
Speaker 2: Did you just not?
Speaker 1: Did you not see him on a bad team when
Speaker 1: you just play Sunday, mister Mavericks, he gave you thirty,
Speaker 1: He gave you what thirty and fifteen and nine.
Speaker 3: It's just he needs he needs some more ball handling
Speaker 3: do this in. But he understands the role he's in
Speaker 3: right now, Ai and Luca playing the way they've been playing.
Speaker 3: Like I said, because he started off the season slow,
Speaker 3: meaning he missed the first what fifteen games so and
Speaker 3: and they were playing great. He just you know, put
Speaker 3: himself into where he wasn't gonna be disruptive. You know what,
Speaker 3: I mean he was gonna be a complimentary piece to
Speaker 3: those guys, and I think he's done a great job
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, uncle, I agree with you. You put him
Speaker 2: on a team.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying necessarily to where he is the guy,
Speaker 1: but where he can handle the rock, make decisions, you know,
Speaker 1: make plays. Yeah, he's still he's still got some ball
Speaker 1: left in him. Or no worse than two yeah, no
Speaker 1: worse than yeah. Oh he gonna get yeah, Yeah, he'll
Speaker 1: give you the numbers that he gave you last year.
Speaker 1: Because if you go back and look like when games
Speaker 1: were okay, Luca's out or game with the car is out,
Speaker 1: and now he has more responsibilities, he gonna do his thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: but uh, I'm not surprised by this. The only thing
Speaker 1: is is that Joannis kept trying to be sneaky about it.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, whatever my agent decides. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't bro your agent works at the behest to you.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't want the criticism with coming because he
Speaker 1: saw the criticism that Lebron got, he saw the criticism
Speaker 1: that KD got, He saw the criticism that some of
Speaker 1: these other guys got, and he doesn't want that. So
Speaker 1: he wants to pretend he wants to throw the rock.
Speaker 1: We know you broke the window he got that's my agent. No,
Speaker 1: bro agents don't just like the same thing. Oh Joe
Speaker 1: we talked about with Nico. Yeah, okay, Nico. That fell
Speaker 1: on Nico, but the all of Josh Dumont throw through
Speaker 1: the table on it. Yeah, so y'all is leaving Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: I got no problem with it. So I don't want
Speaker 1: y'all saying, but, oh, so you got a problem.
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: The only problem I got is that he won't stand
Speaker 1: up and face the he won't stay face to music.
Speaker 1: Y'all want out. I don't feel I can win here anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: think they can put the pieces around me.
Speaker 1: But everything that they've done over the last four to
Speaker 1: five years was at your require, at you. They got
Speaker 1: rid of the coach. You don't think you think they
Speaker 1: did that without y'all assess that man was second in
Speaker 1: the east. Yeah, yeah, they win't got dang. You don't think,
Speaker 1: y'a you think y'all hadn't signed up on that. They
Speaker 1: got rid of Holiday, they got rid of all those
Speaker 1: pieces that was because of Yannas.
Speaker 2: That was Yanni's last thing. Yeah, you got to own
Speaker 2: it though.
Speaker 1: Bro, It's okay. You're not the first to request the trade.
Speaker 1: You're not the first to move pieces. That's comes along
Speaker 1: with the territory. You're a superstar. Superstars get certain privileges,
Speaker 1: and that's okay. But don't hide behind it, bro, Don't
Speaker 1: make it seem like they want to get rid of you.
Speaker 1: You know, you've been asking for this for a minute.
Speaker 1: And they should have moved your last Yeah, he don't
Speaker 1: want that. They should have moved your last year.
Speaker 3: You don't want that backlash, man, No he does. But
Speaker 3: even with that, even with that, I still think, you know,
Speaker 3: he'll be all right. I mean, it's just part of it.
Speaker 3: It's part of being a megastar. Obviously. Things ain't going
Speaker 3: right in Milwauke. Man, you gotta at least get you
Speaker 3: some pieces, get you some good pieces. And I think
Speaker 3: Milwaukee kind of trying to wait till this draft to
Speaker 3: kind of see who get what picks and who can
Speaker 3: really help them, you know what I mean? Because okay,
Speaker 3: we okay, we can trade Gianni's. We're gonna package you
Speaker 3: with these picks because maybe we can get a top
Speaker 3: three pick or a top five pick out this draft
Speaker 3: to send Jannis off. Okay, that's a different story, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Now we bringing one of these
Speaker 3: young pheenoms who can carry us for the next ten, twelve,
Speaker 3: fifteen years. So I think that's why they waiting.
Speaker 2: Joe Ojo. Yeah, I bring o Jo in. I do
Speaker 2: everything oh yo ask, I hire Chauncey, hi best, I high.
Speaker 1: Ryan, I give Doug a jab. Things don't go right, man,
Speaker 1: I've done everything at Ojo asked me to do. Then
Speaker 1: when things don't go right, man, I can't row. I
Speaker 1: hi Chauncey, I hired Ryan, I hired Doug, and I
Speaker 1: think they ain't going right? You want to dial. I
Speaker 1: have brought both of your damn robbers. I've got your
Speaker 1: new coach. I got up on holiday. I got up
Speaker 1: off of me for damn. You don't think, I mean,
Speaker 1: does y'allys think that we're that not eve to not
Speaker 1: to think that he has that kind of leverage In Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: They held on to him because they don't want to
Speaker 1: trade him. They don't want to trade him, but they
Speaker 1: just know he's not gonna sign. And I'm not going
Speaker 1: to let you walk out the door. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean to keep bringing KD up, but kd contract was
Speaker 1: up and it was well within his right to leave.
Speaker 1: But KD walked out the door and Okase ain't get
Speaker 1: a damn thing. Let that sink in. Some people say
Speaker 1: KD is the top ten, he's probably a top fifteen
Speaker 1: player in NBA history history. Walked out the door and
Speaker 1: they didn't get a thing for him. They didn't get gatorade,
Speaker 1: they didn't get to they didn't get socks. They then
Speaker 1: get taped, They got nothing, joke, they didn't get no iPad,
Speaker 1: they didn't get a projector, they didn't get jacket.
Speaker 2: You cannot let Yannis.
Speaker 1: Walk out the door like that because if you do
Speaker 1: your ruin and Thenwalukee knows that they know, that's why
Speaker 1: they they refuse. I know they refuse to let that
Speaker 1: happen to their franchise because they won't be able to
Speaker 1: recruit from that. It'll set them back hell five seven,
Speaker 1: even probably longer than that. What got what got OKC
Speaker 1: was what happened the actually Kawhi because Kawhi going to
Speaker 1: the Clippers warning a veteran someone that he knew Paul
Speaker 1: George PG. Oh you want PG. What you got a limit?
Speaker 2: What you got.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need Shay and I'm gonna need probably like
Speaker 1: four unprotected first round picks and Sam Presty.
Speaker 2: We know one thing. He can pick a player.
Speaker 1: He picked KD, he picked Russ, he picked Harden, he
Speaker 1: picked the Baker, he picked Reggie Jackson.
Speaker 2: And look at what he's doing. He's picked Check, He's
Speaker 2: picked Jayalen Williams. He picked Jayalen Williams. Look at what
Speaker 2: he's doing. He's got lou Dort. Yeah. So now.
Speaker 1: What probably would have been purgatory for ok C, even
Speaker 1: though they're a small market, they're right at and they're
Speaker 1: right back here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're gonna be there for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2: They are many.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's one move change everythinge it changed everything. And
Speaker 1: Presley done a great job. But the lynch pin was
Speaker 1: getting shape. Once he got shape. Yeah, the foundation is strong.
Speaker 1: It's hard the building to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just you gotta hope, you know, when
Speaker 3: you make these type of changes and you bring in
Speaker 3: a guy who you think has a great upside, you
Speaker 3: gotta hope he takes the game serious and he meets
Speaker 3: your standards on over delivers like Shay, I mean, hell,
Speaker 3: this man Fin will probably be a two time MVP.
Speaker 2: Won you a title. He won you a title.
Speaker 3: Man, you had Westbrook and KD y'all made it to
Speaker 3: the finals, but you didn't win.
Speaker 2: Win. You get this kid and hard Yeah and Harden
Speaker 2: and Obaca and Obaca.
Speaker 3: You get this kid and within what three four years,
Speaker 3: man Hednet won you a tightle and you're on the
Speaker 3: break to win another one.
Speaker 2: So if you go back to back, oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So basically, you got you got.
Speaker 1: You got Shae in twenty in twenty nineteen because with
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen yea, I think twenty nineteen summer twenty nineteen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: got it because Kawhi came from came from Toronto, and
Speaker 1: that that was the domino that started this. We didn't
Speaker 1: know that a move move over here would trigger something
Speaker 1: over there. You know, sometimes you have the a tsunami
Speaker 1: because there's a earthquake that happened in the ocean. Man, Look,
Speaker 1: with this thing triggered the Clippers wanting getting Kawhi triggered
Speaker 1: a series of unfortunate events. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: lemony snickets, y'all. Catch up that but anyway, but that's
Speaker 1: what happened, Joe. So I don't I don't thault Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get as much as I possibly
Speaker 1: can because the likelihood. Think about it, you had Kareem.
Speaker 1: It took you thirty plus years before you got something
Speaker 1: comfortable to Kareem. You had some really good teams. Now,
Speaker 1: I remember the Bucks was a really good team when
Speaker 1: they had Nelly don Nesson with their coach.
Speaker 2: They had a.
Speaker 1: Who the hell uh but Lanier. They had Sidney Montcree,
Speaker 1: they had o Terry Cummins, got do Terry Cumming. Terry
Speaker 1: Cummings will do for a big body, Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: from DePaul.
Speaker 2: They had Brian Winners. They had some really good players
Speaker 2: they did. They did.
Speaker 1: Kareem and y'allnis and so normally when you lose a
Speaker 1: player like that, it's hard to ever ever get enough.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 1: And you're not like the Lakers, where people want to
Speaker 1: come will retire. They get Kareem and then you get
Speaker 1: Magic and then imagine retire. You get Shaq and Kobe
Speaker 1: and then get down and here come Lebron and now
Speaker 1: you got Luca.
Speaker 2: You see how everybody don't.
Speaker 3: Get it like eybody, because that you know, not only
Speaker 3: did the big market, it's a great market in LA,
Speaker 3: and everybody want to play in l a bro I mean,
Speaker 3: let's keep it one hundred, you know, playing for the Lakers.
Speaker 3: I don't know about y'all, but growing up watching the
Speaker 3: Lakers play, you know, the Lakes show, the Laker girls,
Speaker 3: things of that sort. Milwaukee don't have an attraction. They don't,
Speaker 3: so it's yeah, they're not gonna get no big time
Speaker 3: free agent, you know what I mean. So you do
Speaker 3: have to go through the draft and hopefully you hit
Speaker 3: big and okay, see yeah, okay, develop well, develop your players.
Speaker 3: But when it gets to this point to where I
Speaker 3: know Jannie is gonna move on, they know they gonna
Speaker 3: move on from Gianni's, you have to try to get
Speaker 3: great value from them.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can.
Speaker 3: Get the same value, but you have to get a
Speaker 3: guy who you feel like, Okay, in two years, he
Speaker 3: gonna be a superstar, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you don't know. I'm saying Janni's but Jannie
Speaker 1: is a different animal. But I mean when they traded
Speaker 1: PG at all those picks, they're like, man, okay, see
Speaker 1: got took, they gave up PG who was what second
Speaker 1: in the MVP third and the m v P B
Speaker 1: one in one year. And now they's like boy boy a, okay, see,
Speaker 1: you really sucker the Clippers. That's what people are saying now.
Speaker 1: It went from the Clippers suck at OKC to okay man, okay,
Speaker 1: see got one.
Speaker 2: Over on him. It's because Shay over delivered, over delivered.