1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleven, Rio to Washington, 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg twelve, under It to 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Bloomberg to the Country zoois XAM General one 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: nine and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio Plus Athen 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot Gone. This is taking Stock. I'm Catheene Hayes, 6 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: my co host Pim Foxes out of the office this afternoon. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Look out Costco, look out Sam's Club. Here comes box 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: the wholesale experience for those without the time means or 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: patients for a brick and mortar warehouse club trip. We're 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: gonna be speaking to the CEO of Boxed about his 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: business model, just how big he expects to get and 12 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: something very special he's doing for employees who are in love. 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: You know who I love Charlie Pellett. He's in the 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: newsroom now and he's got a bloom big business flash. 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: We are looking at an up date for stocks or 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: with the DAL the SMP and NASDAC all hired. Thank you, 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Kathleen Hayes. Stocks rebounding from a morning sell off, we 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: are now at the best level of the afternoon holding 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: near a six week high. Treasuries are advancing as investors 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: away tomorrow's jobs data for clues about the timing of 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: the Federal reserves next policy move Right now, the tenure 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: up eight thirty seconds, the yield there one point eight percent. 23 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: FED Governor Daniel Torulo says eight of the largest American 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: banks will have to meet stricter capital minimums in their 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: annual Federal Reserve stress tests, while regional lenders will get 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: some relief. He was interviewed this morning on Bloomberg Television. 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: We need to have those eight most systemically important institutions 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: more resilient than other banks in the economy. You know, 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: you can have a you can have a smaller bank 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: fail and the economy can absorb that. But with the 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: largest institutions, obviously there's much more of a systemic risk, 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: and we need to achieve that in a post stress 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: environment as well as in a pre stress environment. Mario 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: drag has unveiled largely unchanged inflation forecast for the Eurozone, 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: even as its latest stimulus measures start to take effect. 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: He's also calling on governments to play a bigger role 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: in cementing the region's pick up. The European Central Bank 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: presidents spoke with reporters today in Vienna. Also in Vienna 39 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: today we had that OPEC meeting. Crude oil up now 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: by four cents forty nine oh five for a barrel 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: of West Texas Intermediate, up by point one percent, Bran 42 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: Crew seven up three tenths of one percent. Natural gas 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: also advancing up seven tenths of one percent. Gold to 44 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: out a dollar thirty the ounce to twelve thirteen, a 45 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: drop of point one percent, and a three thirty two 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: on Wall Street. Now, let's take a look at other 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: news from around the world. Thank you Charlie from the 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: Bloomberg newsrou My Rami in essentio. This news update is 49 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: brought to you by the Jeep Grand Cherokee, the most 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: awarded sub ever. The Grand Cherokee continues to raise the 51 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: bar with its luxurious interior and legendary four by four capability. 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: Try when at your local Jeep dealer today. Some progress 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: is being reported in the war against terrorism. The State 54 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: Department's Acting Coordinator for counter Terrorism, Justin Siberal, announced today 55 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: the Department's annual report on Terrorism finds a decline in attacks. However, 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: the report also warns Islamic State expanded its reach, and 57 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: Iran remains a leading state sponsor of terrorism. Total number 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: of terrorist attacks in decreased by percent when compared to 59 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: total fatalities due to terrorist attacks decreased by fourteen percent, 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: principally as a result of fewer attacks and deaths in Iraq, Pakistan, 61 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: and Nigeria. The aid who handled Hillary Clinton's private email 62 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: server while she was Secretary of State will not testify 63 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: in an email related lawsuit. Brian Pagliano will refuse to 64 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: testify in a lawsuit brought by the conservative watchdog group 65 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Judicial Watch. The deposition is on Monday, just one day 66 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: before California's primary rivers in Europe have burst their banks 67 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: from Paris to the southern German state of Bavaria, killing 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: six people, trapping thousands more in homes or cars, and 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: forcing everything from subway lines to castles to shut down. 70 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: The Louver in Paris will close Fridays as staff can 71 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: move works of our from areas that are at risk 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: of high waters. 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Would you like it 93 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: if you could just, you know, go online and order 94 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: those and have them come to your house for free. Well, 95 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: that is the business model for Boxed Boxed Wholesale, and 96 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: they're doing quite well, growing very rapidly. In fact, they've 97 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: raised a hundred and fifty million dollars in funding to date. 98 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: And imagine that just a couple of years ago, the 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: founder and CEO was in his garage in Edison, New Jersey, 100 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 1: just getting it off the ground. And that's Shay Wong. 101 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: He is uh with me in our New York studio. Now, 102 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: thank you very much for having me and and everything 103 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: you just said. Literally that was the problem that we 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: had in my family. And so that's what I want 105 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: to do and solve the problem for myself and luckily 106 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: a lot of Americans around the country have the same problem. 107 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: So there you were tell us about that. You you 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: were saying, gosh, I I mean, I actually kind of 109 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: like going to place like Costco Sam's Club sometimes you 110 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: walk around and you know, but I know a lot 111 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: of people find it tedious. Yeah, I mean, you know, 112 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 1: it really is for some of the folks that literally 113 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: don't have the physical means too. So you figure folks 114 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: that live in urban areas without a car, or if 115 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: you're later on in life and you just can't get 116 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: out of the house anymore. And so that's an audience 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: for us. Also, people in the suburbs, you find that 118 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: they don't have the time or the patients to go. Yeah, 119 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: they have a car and they live in Texas, they 120 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: can get to a Sam's Club, but they just don't 121 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: have the time and patience with three kids to go 122 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: in store. So did you ever think to yourself, oh, gosh, 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: there's already Amazon, and then there's Jet you know, another 124 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: East Coast competitor of Amazon to a certain extent, What 125 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: made you think you get boxed off the ground? I thought, um, one, 126 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: that that because it was solving a problem that I 127 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: had that I looked around at what were my options 128 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: as a consumed were and none of them were, like 129 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: my kind of needs weren't exactly met, and so I 130 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: thought there was there was definitely an opportunity there. But 131 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: more so we knew from a business perspective we had 132 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: to go with a different model. And so for us, UM, 133 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: we don't have everything. We're very clear with the consumer 134 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: that we're not going to be the everything store, but 135 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: we have a thousand items large format only, and you 136 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: get to discover a few interesting items as well. So 137 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: what else besides toilet paper and paper towels, which to 138 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: me are obviously the fill the car very fast? You figure, laundry, detergent, 139 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: water does really well, beverages, chips, snacks, and right now 140 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: about fifty percent of our businesses foods, household so everything 141 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: to fill your pantry. Basically, so you ship for free? 142 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Are you making money shipping for free? Yeah? So the 143 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: beauty of it is that our average consumer, our consumer 144 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: on average orders about ten items. And so as you know, 145 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: if you think about the variable costs online, um, once 146 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: you get to a certain part, like once you get 147 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: to a certain items per per order count, the variable 148 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: costs of shipping that box actually flatlines. And so if 149 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: you're adding ten items per card, then you're actually making 150 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: margin on it. Now you you're one of your most 151 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: recent big, high profile investments, and a very powerful one 152 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: is American Express and they had the card relationship with Costco, 153 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: which Costco ended. So now American Express Ventures announced to one, Well, 154 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: you did a hundred you did a big, big round 155 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: of funding with them. How much was it? Yeah, so 156 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: our last round was a hundred million dollars and then 157 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: m X closed just recently as well. So what does 158 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: that entail? What is that? What did it cost you 159 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: to do that? And what is it? What is the benefit? 160 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: What are you getting out of it? It cost me. 161 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Luckily they were very good to work with so it 162 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: wasn't like we had to they ground us away in 163 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: a in a long drawn out negotiations, So it didn't 164 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: cost us a lot um. But in terms of working 165 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: together and what we think about, you know, how we 166 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: think about jointly driving our businesses going forward. And so 167 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: they obviously have wholesale customers where you know, now UM 168 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: American Express charting JU nineteenth I think will not be 169 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: accepted in store. And so if you if your card 170 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: is not accepted in store and you don't have any 171 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: alternative next to you, you literally cannot use that card anymore. 172 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: But more so than that, I think we're working on 173 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: initiatives for the future. So for example, UM now UH 174 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: our customers don't need or they can check in or 175 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: or check out with just their American Express credentials for example, 176 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: they're logg in UM. But a lot more coming coming 177 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: UH in the future. Well, you have to talk about 178 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: your your your your your program you have for employees 179 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: where you pay for weddings. So I wanted to spell minuts. 180 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: It's not like we sit around and just think, okay, 181 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: what what else can we pay for? You know, I think, Um, 182 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: what I found was that, Um, you know, coming from 183 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: a technology background, UM, you deal with engineers, you deal 184 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: with like just office folks all the time, where especially 185 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley, if you're making less than a k, 186 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: it seems like you're slimming it right like. But now 187 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: we have fulfilming centers, Now we have a physical part 188 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: of our business. It introduced us to a whole another 189 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of world, at least you know, when I grew up, 190 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: I grew up poor. It reintroduced me to to another world. 191 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: And so for us, we had a very specific problem 192 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: in one of our fulfillment centers. One of our stalwart 193 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: packers actually cried on the floor during work and we 194 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: asked him. I called him later that night asked, hey, 195 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: I heard this was happening. UM, what's going on? And 196 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: so ended up that Um, he was paying his mother's 197 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: medical bills uh, and wanted to pay for his wedding 198 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: at the same time and so that his mother could 199 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: go in time. UM, And that the match just wasn't 200 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: working out, even though he's working seven days a week 201 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: and two jobs. And so I just felt like, at 202 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: least I can't control what happens in outside of our 203 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: our walls, but at least in a company that I run, um, 204 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: I want to be able to fix the things that 205 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: are wrong. And you paid for sw wedding, and now 206 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: you pay for all employees weddings. Right, Yeah, so I 207 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: think you're a courage A lot of people get married. 208 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: It is well, one one thing I'll add it. It's 209 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: just it just really is the the the employer employee 210 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: relationship and so and I know that's a big, big 211 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: thing for you, for you. Chay Long, CEO, co founder 212 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: Boxed Wholesale. Check it out. This is taking stock on 213 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. The e c B meant of the e 214 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: c B is going to stop buying corporate bonds. But 215 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of doubt about how much any of 216 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: this is really going to stimulate an economy where inflation 217 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: still is not rising enough. That's coming up now on 218 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio.