1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Fifty nine days, by the way, until the deadline. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the only person more excited than you because Michael 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: laves because he's like, more prospects, I can get more prospects. 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Front Office unfiltered. 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 3: Our resident GM Jim Bowden joining us right now with 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: a fantastic backdrop. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: Now, the background is awful. Do you know what that is? 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: It's awful background? Why do you know what that is? 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: That's awful? Come on, baby, should have the exploding Jim. 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: I love it, Jim Baby. 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: Let's go a j Come on, man, Jim, Jimmy, Jim 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: work for the Reds, you nen work for the Cubs? 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: Like, come on, still, background, they don't have a Reds 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: fat head background to throw on a wall. What was available? 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: It's available by fat head. So we can get. 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Adam Dunn's fat head back there and cover that whole thing. 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: That's good, all right, let's dive into biz JB. I 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: want to start with the ABS Challenge system report from 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: a couple people. We've seen multiple reports out there that 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: it's not going to be ready until at least twenty 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: twenty seven. I think most of us were assuming this 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 3: was a twenty twenty sixth thing. Were you surprised to 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: see that news. 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was surprised when it came out. But I 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: don't think it's really the Commissioner's office or the clubs 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: that don't necessarily think it's ready. It's the players. And 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: quite frankly, Major League Baseball got the feedback from the 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: players during spring training when they used it, and they 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: got they got a lot of pushback in a lot 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: of different areas, and I think after conversations with the 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Players Association, you know, I think they realized, hey, we 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: better not rush this in. I mean, remember, the CBA 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: expires December thirty first of twenty twenty six, so we 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: only have one more year. There's no point in trying 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: to push something that everybody is not on board with. 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: And I think the relationship between the Commissioner's Office and 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: Tony Clark and the players, it's extremely important between now 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: and the time that CBA expires, so we don't end 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: up with some kind of workstop and so working together 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: is important. Getting feedback is important. So I give a 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: lot of credit to the clubs, to the Commissioner's office 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: for listening to the players and saying, Okay, we're not 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: going to rush this thing. Let's keep working on it 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: until we can get it to the point where everybody's 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: on board. 46 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: I thought everyone was on board. The players seem to 47 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: love it. Every player I talked to loved it in 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 2: spring training. They loved it for many reasons. For the 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: biggest reason was it kept umpires in check. Right. They 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: had to not only listen to players, as you know, 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: Jim only get a certain amount of bats, not only 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: in a year, but in a career, and some for 53 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: some guys, those at bats are more important than other guys. 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: Right the bench guys say it's a blowout game and 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: they need to do something. They come in late and 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: they need to get a hit or a walk or 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: whatever it is. And sometimes umpires would loosen the strike 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: zone up. Okay, but every player I talk was like 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: it kept the umpires right straight and narrow for nine innings. 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: And you're ne were talking just in spring even in 61 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: spring training, because some of those games, again are more important. 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: So why are we waiting? Like I don't understand. Everyone 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: thought it was pretty good. I get your reasoning, but 64 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: to me, like, let's do this, like we rolled it 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: out in spring training. Fans loved it, players loved it. 66 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: Teams loved it, Let's do this well. 67 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: The reaction was mixed though, I mean, I know you 68 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: talked to a lot of players, but it was mixed 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: and the feedback was, hey, we're not there yet. There 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: was also a lot of question and debate about you know, 71 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: how many challenges does each team get? Do you get 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: another challenge once you've used the challenge if you win 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: the challenge? You know, how much power should the umpires 74 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: have late in the game, Who should have the power 75 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: to actually challenge I mean, there's a lot of issues 76 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: behind here that everybody hasn't agreed on. But you know, 77 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: the report that was out there from Bob Nightingale was 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: pretty clear in the information that he had learned is 79 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: that there was some pushback from a lot of players 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: on the way the system is right now, and they 81 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: want to correct it. They want to make it a 82 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: little bit better. And I think you make a mistake 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: when you roll out a new rule and you don't 84 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: have it right. You don't want to sit there and 85 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: roll it out and then on April twenty, if you 86 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: have everybody complaining and then you try to fix it. 87 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: You can't do it that way. You really have to 88 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: get it to the point where everybody's on board and 89 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: liking it. Look, we're coming down this path and whether 90 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be a challenge system or it's just 91 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: going to be an automated strike zone, which I think 92 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: is eventually where we're going. It's gonna happen, but you 93 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: have to do it at the right time when it's 94 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: working and everybody's on board. 95 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 4: Hey, Jim, I want to ask you, you know, two questions, 96 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: kind of the last one on that end, because the 97 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: hitter in me wants to believe that the whole back 98 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: was from the pictures. I'm just you know, I feel 99 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 4: like it shrinks the zone when you watch these games. 100 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 4: I mean watching you know, Taylor Walls getting ejected, Soda 101 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: Stream getting ejected last night. Clearly, you know, for me, 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: it feels like it's going to, you know, help the 103 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 4: hitters out. So is was it the pictures given the 104 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: most of the backlash? And then two, I want to 105 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: touch on the Yankees Dodgers? What did you take away 106 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: from this series as far as these two teams both 107 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 4: in first place, you know, championship last year rematch. Give 108 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 4: me your thoughts on that as well. 109 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they were complaints from both. I'm being told 110 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: pitchers and position players. I know. I guess the biggest 111 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: name that complained about it was Max Scherzer, future Hall 112 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: of Famer. He didn't like it, he had some issues 113 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: with it. But I was told it was both pitchers 114 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 1: and hitters. Again, I don't have a list of players, 115 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: no one gave it to me. But I understand the 116 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: feedbacks mixed in terms of what we witnessed this weekend. 117 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: You know, I felt like on Friday night that I 118 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: was just back at the World Series in late October 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: and was watching the same series again. Yankees go up 120 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 1: five nothing, Dodgors come back, tie it, they win the game. 121 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: The two superstars of Tawny goes yard twice. Judge goes yard. 122 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: That game was so great, right, it was epic and 123 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: the better team won, kind of like at the World Series. 124 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: So then Saturday came and I got my popcorn out, 125 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: I got my over red and backer, I got the butter, 126 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: I got the salt, I filled it up. I got excited, right. 127 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: I love popcorn, and like when I go to movies, 128 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: I'll eat the whole bowl of popcorn during previews. It's 129 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: gone by the time the movie starts, so that's normally 130 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: my plan. You know, eat it in the first inning. 131 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: So I start the popcorn, and all of a sudden, 132 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: in the first inning, it's ten to nothing and freakin' 133 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: Otani is batted three times before some of the Yankee 134 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 1: hitters even came to the plate. So that game stunk, right, 135 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: and then the Yankees come back and win the third game. 136 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: I guess what I learned is this number one that 137 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: we know the Dodgers are a better team. A B. 138 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: The National League Eleague teams are way better than the 139 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: American League East teams. And so when you look at 140 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: the National League teams, the best teams, I'm gonna I'm 141 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: gonna say Dodgers, Cubs, Mets, Phillies, Padres. I think they're 142 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: the five best teams in the National League. I have 143 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: an argument that all five are better than the Tigers 144 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: and Yankees, the two best teams in the American League. 145 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: And I kind of feel like that's what I watch now. 146 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, the Dodgers were able to hit the 147 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: ace Max Freed, and on Sunday we saw the Yankees 148 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: hit Yamamoto. They're best starter. So it also tells me 149 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: we get back to October, the bats are gonna rain. 150 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: We're not gonna have these one nothing, two to one 151 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: pitching duels next postseason because these big hitters that we 152 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: have on some of these lineups, they can hit the 153 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: best pitching in baseball, and we saw that in Game 154 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: one and Game three of this series. 155 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: FT fan by, now you know, if you're buying, selling, 156 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: trading collecting cards, Arena Club is the spot. We've been 157 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: talking about them all season long. But I do want 158 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: to focus on the slab pack experience, crats. 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Or is 184 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 4: there something that the Yankees, the Tigers I'm meant to 185 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 4: Seattle with their rotation. I know Caro Raly's doing a 186 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: lot of the heavy lifting. Is there something in your 187 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: eyes that those teams can do to possibly, you know, 188 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: be able to have a chance, an actual chance to 189 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: reign champion as far as American League team goes? 190 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. I mean, look, look, we've all watched, you know, 191 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: over the last fifteen years. I mean, how many wildcard 192 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: teams have won World champions that we weren't expecting. Right 193 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago we had the Rangers and Diamondbacks, 194 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: two wildcard teams in the World Series. So yeah, as 195 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, anything can happen you get to a short series. Look, 196 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: the Tigers have a rotation that can run the table 197 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: when they're healthy. The Mariners have a rotation that can 198 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: run the table went healthy. But I think in general, 199 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: if the better team wins, we're gonna have another Nation 200 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: League champion. And I'm not a better but if I 201 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: was in Vegas betting, I would bet on five National 202 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: League teams before I bet on any of the American 203 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: League teams. 204 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, so let me give you I think you're 205 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: gonna like this, not a double header, but a triple 206 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: header of questions for you. JB on the Dodgers, and 207 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: then we'll move on Okay ones on a unicorn, ones 208 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: on a utility player, and ones on a trade that 209 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: was a head scratcher for me. Okay Otani another step 210 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: in the right direction, it seemed over the weekend with 211 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: his progression against hitters. Then of course he just goes 212 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: out and plays a game and had a great weekend 213 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: with the bat number two, Hessan Kim because I heard 214 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: you talk about him on your radio show on Serious XM. 215 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: Because and that plays into my third question, which is 216 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: Alexis Diaz. 217 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: I get it. The Dodgers are going to. 218 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: Outspend most teams, but Hessng Kim was not an expensive 219 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: offseason pickup for them, and he started in the miners. 220 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 3: There are other teams that could have made the case, Hey, 221 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: we can pay you more and you can start out 222 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: in the major leagues with us. Alexis Diaz acquired and 223 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: you're looking around like, wait, this dude was really good 224 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: and not that long ago. He should still be in 225 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: the prime of his career. So the second part after 226 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: Otani is how the Dodgers are winning at the margins 227 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: in ways that don't necessarily cost much and confuse me 228 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: because I'm like, where is the rest of the league 229 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: on some of these players? 230 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, great point. So they're smarter than most everybody else, 231 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: is the quick answer, right led by Andrew Friedman and 232 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Brandon Gomes in the front office, and I'll include Dave 233 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: Roberts as well. The interesting part about the Dodgers that 234 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: they don't outspend people to win. They actually do a 235 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: lot of market deals and they didn't overpay to Oscar 236 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: He Andez. Plenty of teams should have offered more money 237 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: in years than what Teo got, and that's been the 238 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: history over there. They're just smarter than other teams, right 239 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: training for guys like Tommy Edmund and so you know, 240 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: you look at Otania. I'll start there with show hey 241 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: that you mentioned. Look, I love him hitting. I think 242 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna win the MVP Award. I think he may 243 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: be the first sixty sixty player we've ever seen. He 244 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: may do it this year. It won't surprise me. But 245 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: to win a World Series, for the Dodgers, to go 246 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: back to back World Championships, it's gonna come down to 247 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: starting pitching being healthy. And the Dodger front office and 248 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: the field staff have no idea which one of their 249 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: aces can be healthy in October. Ken Blake Snell, Ken 250 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: Tyler glassnow, Ken Yamamoto, Ken Sasaki, Ken O'TWNI you know 251 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: they don't know. So the whole key is, let's try 252 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: to get all of our starters healthy for October so 253 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: we get there. Of the five aces we have, hopefully 254 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: we can get three of them that are healthy to 255 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: run the table. In terms of hussing Kim, I really 256 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: like what I've seen with him. This is a player 257 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: that is a really good defender, can really flash the leather. 258 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: This is a guy that can really run. We saw 259 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: him at a home run in that series against the 260 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: New York Yankees. He's got some power, he's got great 261 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: hand eye coordination, great back to ball skills. And the 262 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Dodgers tell me Brandon Gomes, their GM has told me 263 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: that they believe that he can be an answer in 264 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: center field as well. But here's a guy that you 265 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: know you could play him second, short, center, left. You 266 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: know you can put him in a few spots. I 267 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: really like the player now. In terms of the trade 268 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: for Diaz, that was a moment where Andrew Friedman takes 269 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: a deep breath and says, my analytic department is better 270 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: than yours. My pitching room is better than yours. We 271 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: know how to fix players mechanically with pitch secretcing, with 272 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: pitch grips better than you. So you know, when you 273 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: give up, we'll take him. He had forty five says 274 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: for you in twenty three and twenty four. I'm sorry 275 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: you got off to a bad star for two months. 276 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: I know you don't want the contract, so I'll take it. 277 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: I'll get him, I'll fix them. I'll have another really 278 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: good reliever for the second half of the season. And 279 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: that's what Andrew does, and then he yawns and goes 280 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: back to his office. 281 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: Okay, there's a couple of things he's done digging. First 282 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: of all, the Dodgers get the guys, and then everyone 283 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: seems to get hurt. So I don't know. They might 284 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: have a better pitching lab and they might have better grips, 285 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: but they also have better doctors, Jim, because their whole 286 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: staff's continuously on the al So I don't know. Maybe 287 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: it's a good thing, maybe it's not a good thing, 288 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: depending on who he asked. But speaking of a guy 289 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: that went down, Corbyn birds went down. If you look 290 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: all at all the stuff and you read the lips, 291 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: my elbow it exploded or it's dead or whatever whatever 292 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: he said on that when he said to the trainer, 293 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: my elbow. Hascre to the Diamondbacks and what do they 294 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: do now? Because if he's out for a long time. 295 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: This was their big addition. Gallons, a free agent, fought 296 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: his last start, didn't get it out and gave up 297 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: like ten runs, and Wardo Rodriguez hasn't been good. They 298 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: already got rid of Monty because you know, he went 299 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: down again. What did the Diamondbacks do. 300 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: Sell mortimercell right, and not what they say taking places movie, 301 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: you become the headliner at the trade deadline with the Orioles. 302 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: That's exactly what the Diamonbacks do. Look, they're twenty eight 303 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: and thirty one and they don't have the pitching to 304 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: come back. Right when you look at the their offense, 305 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: they're fourth in baseball of the thirty teams in run scored, 306 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: in home runs and ops. They don't pitch. Corbyn Burns 307 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: is their best pitcher with an ERA under three. If 308 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns needs Tommy John or is out for the year, 309 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: need some kind of surgery, uh, they're screwed. They're season's over. 310 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: You got Edwardo Rodriguez still on the injury list with 311 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: a shoulder. So what do you do. You've got Zach 312 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: Gallon and Merrill Kelly, both are going to be free agents. 313 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: You gotta hope Gallen starts to pitch better, by the way, 314 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: because he hasn't pitched well. He better pitch better. But 315 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: you shop those two starters. There's not a lot of 316 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: starters are going to be available at this deadline. You 317 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: take Josh Naylor, the first baseman who's a free agent 318 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, you call Seattle. You see, 319 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: if Seattle wants a first baseman, they can hit and 320 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: drive in runs. You ask teams needing a reliever, have 321 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: you watched Shelby Miller lately to see what he's doing 322 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: for me? So that's what you do. If you're the Diamondbacks, 323 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't see them coming back right now 324 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: because they don't have the pitching, and if you lose burdens, 325 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: they really don't have the pitching. So that's kind of 326 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: how I do it. And by the way, that team 327 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: is like the Orioles. If those two teams sell at 328 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: the deadline like they should, both of those teams can 329 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: quickly fix it in the off season and be right 330 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: back in it next year in a really good spot. 331 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: But this could be a great opportunity for both of 332 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: those franchises to do a quick reboot come July. 333 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: So let's stay right there. You gave us those two teams, 334 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: give us who else with the trade trade dadline coming 335 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: up fifty nine days away. Who are the Sailers and 336 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 4: and who are the players that are going to be 337 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: on those blocks? 338 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, a great, great question, Camp, So look, a lot 339 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: of these are I'll go quick with them. The Rockies, 340 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: the White Sox, the Pirates, the Athletics, the Marlins, the Angels. 341 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: All six of those teams will be selling. That's pretty obvious. 342 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the Washington Nationals in that as well. 343 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: That's seven. Then you add the Diamondbacks and the Oels, 344 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: you're at nine. There'll be more, but that's a really 345 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: good start. 346 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: Now. 347 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: The problem is a lot of these teams don't have 348 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: a lot to trade right You look at the Rockies 349 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: Ryan McMahon, he's got some value. Perhaps teams looking for 350 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: an upgrade at third base. They've got Seth Halverston out 351 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: of the bullpen. Maybe someone will think they can do 352 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: something with Kyle Freeland. I don't know. The White Sox 353 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: have Lewis Robert, but not much besides that, you know, 354 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: maybe the Adrian Hauser, maybe is Steven Wilson. The Pirates 355 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: they don't have much, Dennis Santana, probably Andrew Haney or 356 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: Adam Fraser kind of extra pieces. Athletics could move Jeffrey Springs, 357 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: who they acquired in the offseason. He's thirty two years old. 358 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: They might be able to do a nice trade there. 359 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Marlins don't have much because al Contra has ruined his 360 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: trade value because he's not all Contra yet, and so 361 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: I think they got to hold him until his value 362 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: comes back, which will be either in the offseason or 363 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: next year's trade deadline. So from them you probably got 364 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: Jesus Sanchez, Cal Quantrill and Anthony Bender. The Angels probably 365 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: Taylor Ward, Kenley, Jansen, Tyler Anderson probably names that are 366 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: out there. The Nationals probably Kyle Finnegan, Jacob Young, probably 367 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: in the Knicks there. But look the headliner of this 368 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: trade deadline. Think of the Orioles, Ryan O'Hearn. He'll be 369 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: one of the best bats moved. Ryan Mountcastle with a 370 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: pire with a power, Cedric Mullens elite defensive center fielder 371 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: with speed's got ten homers. Then you've got Zach Efflin 372 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: a free agent. You got Charlie Morton, who's pitching better. 373 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: You got Sigano's pitching better. I mean, I just named 374 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: six guys that they can trade. So they're like the 375 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: Diamondbacks with they could clean up at this trade deadline. 376 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: And by the way, if Boston doesn't start playing better, 377 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: they could be a fascinating team at the deadline too. 378 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: Fifty nine days by the way, until the deadline. Ah. 379 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: The only person more excited than you in person. We're 380 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: excited right now than you, Jim is Michael Olias because 381 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: he's like, more prospects. I can get more prospects now. 382 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: I don't have to sign anybody. I just get more 383 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: prospects and keep them until their time has passed, and 384 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: then I'll have more prospects. 385 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. His job's on the line, though, AJ. He's got 386 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: to rebuild this thing quick. I mean that's that's the 387 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: way I view it. I mean, he has to have 388 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: a good deadline, he has to put his team in 389 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: good position. He makes some good trades at this deadline, 390 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: and you go to free agency and sign a couple 391 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: of really good starters that are out there. He can 392 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: fix this thing quickly. But I think his jobs on 393 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: the line. I JB two more for you. I'll do 394 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: this second to last. 395 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: Jaron Duran San Diego Padres interest, did you see Dennis 396 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: Lynn's report and what do you make of it? 397 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: From both sides? Of course Padres could. 398 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: Use someone like that. 399 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean they have a hole at what left field? 400 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: And maybe DH But doesn't that mean the Red Sox 401 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 3: are kind of hunting or does it open up a 402 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: place for Roman Anthony to have a discussion that's worth 403 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 3: having with them. 404 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So for the Padres, of course aj prol is 405 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: gonna make that phone call. Right, I'll feel the Tatistan right, 406 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Maryland center and Duran and left that power speed combination. 407 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: Duria was an All Star last year. That's a really 408 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: good outfield and it's a huge hole that he's got 409 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: after you know, Profar left last year in free agency, 410 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to really fill it. So of 411 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: course he's going to make that phone call. Now. For 412 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: the Red Sox, the whole thing has been perplexing because 413 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: one of their top two or three players in the organization, 414 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: Roman Anthony's in Triple A and they're not promoting him. 415 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: And at the same time, they had no interest in 416 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: moving Anthony to first or a bray You to first 417 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: or Duran to first, right, So they've kind of made 418 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: the decision that he's blocked. You can't bring him up 419 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: to DH because you have Devers. So in order to 420 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: make room for Anthony, you either got to move Rafaela 421 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: to second, put Duran in center and Anthony and left, 422 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: or you got to trade one of the outfield corners, 423 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: and so I'm not quite completely understanding what Craig Breslo 424 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: is going to do, but the Duran rumors kind of 425 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: opens up that possibility that he is thinking of trading Duran, 426 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: bringing Anthony up and going with Anthony, Rafaela and a 427 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: Bray was the outfield. They love Rafaella defensively, and they should. 428 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: He's an elite, elite defensive centerfielder with great range, great speed. 429 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: He's incredible. I don't know how, but he's gonna hit. 430 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: He certainly has, you know, good raw power. I don't 431 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: know how much the hit tools gonna play, but that's 432 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: the only thing I could think of. Devers isn't gonna 433 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: move off at D eight, so that's kind of where 434 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: they stand, So trading Duran makes sense. 435 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: Now. 436 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: The problem with the rumor is there's really not a 437 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: fit between the Padres and the Red Sox. I can't 438 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: find you know, they really don't have the starting pitcher 439 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: to trade Boston. You know, their farm system isn't what 440 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: it once was, so I don't know how those two 441 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: teams would match. So I think it's unlikely there's a 442 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: trade there, but it would not surprise me at all. 443 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: If Craig Breslow, the gem of the Red Sox plan 444 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: is to trade Duran because otherwise, why haven't you made 445 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: room for Anthony? It just doesn't make sense. Great. 446 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: Speaking of prospects, there's a big one coming for Kansas City. 447 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you this question. Jim is a 448 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: former GM. Is it easier to find pitching help in 449 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: the draft or guys that can possibly hit you forty homers? 450 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: So let me answer it this way. When you draft 451 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: a pitcher in that first round, and Jack Caglion was 452 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: the sixth player taken in the first round, Billy being 453 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: the former president GM of the A's really said it 454 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: simply before the algorithms all came out. But he said 455 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: it simply, for every picture you get, one is gonna 456 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: live up the expectations, one is gonna blow out, and 457 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: one is gonna regress. Those aren't good odds with your 458 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: first round pick. But if you take in the first 459 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: round a guy that can hit big league pitching and 460 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: as power, that guy's gonna play and he's gonna play 461 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: for years to come. So when you're talking about the 462 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: first round pick, if there's a choice between a pitchure 463 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: or a hitter, and there's similar talents. You take the 464 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: hitter because of the risk factor. Now, if there's a 465 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: Paul Schemes or Steven Strawsbury there, obviously you do that. 466 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, it look, I think without a doubt, this 467 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: kid Jack cagleon he's Matt Olson, that's what he is. 468 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got thirty five forty home run power. 469 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: And the thing that's great about him is how much 470 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: plate coverage he gets. Because you'll look at some of 471 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: the analytics and people will complain, well, he chases out 472 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: of the strike zone. You know what he does out 473 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: of the strike zone. He mashes out of the strike zone. 474 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: Because of his frame and his long levers, he can 475 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: actually do damage outside on the outside corner, on the 476 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: inside corner. I mean, it's unbelievable. And by the way 477 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: he uses the entire field these foul pole the foul pole. 478 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: This isn't just a young pole hitter. So again he's Olsen. 479 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I think he's gonna have 480 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: some trouble on balls up in the strike zone, but 481 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: he's a star. Look, he's only played what fourteen games 482 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: in the outfield, twelve and right and a couple of 483 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: games in left field, but yeah, he's going to be 484 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: a star. 485 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: All right. My is how does he fall to sixth? 486 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 2: I want into last year saying he should be one 487 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: one because of just the raw power. Now, Bazana's fine. 488 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: I know that's a Cleveland. We can sign him for 489 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: a probably less deal. But I look at like Charlie Condon. 490 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: I know he had a one big year at Georgia 491 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: and he jumped in the conversation. But Nick Kurtz is 492 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: already in the big leagues and he's producing before you 493 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: know he got hurt. But my question is really, like 494 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: the reason I asked the question is I'm a White 495 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: Sox fan, right, and they drafted Hagen Smith to pick 496 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: before Kagleam. What can't the White Sox do? They can't hit, 497 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 2: So why would you not draft the guy, especially in 498 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: that ballpark and in that division, like you got to hit? 499 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: Like That's why I want to know. Is it easier 500 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: to develop a picture or a hitter or to find 501 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: a picture a hitter because the White Sox they're supposed 502 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: to have fe you know, Hagen Smith and Noah Schultz 503 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: and all these pictures coming. But you look at him 504 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: and They've had a really hard time developing anybody that 505 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: can hit worth a crap, right, So why would you 506 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 2: not take the guy that hit forty homers every year 507 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: in the SEC against SEC, against Smith and some of 508 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: these other guys. That was the only reason I asked 509 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: the question, and the way you answered it made total sense. 510 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: But to me, it's like, how do you pass on 511 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: caglion for anybody when you can't hit? 512 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. I mean, I think the hardest thing 513 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: to do in baseball is hit big league pitching. Hit 514 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: major league pitching at ninety eight miles an hour with 515 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: these unbelievable vertical and horizontal breaks and all the differential 516 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: and speed changes. And I mean, in sports, is there 517 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: anything harder to do than hitting a baseball? And when 518 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: you get those guys that can hit, yeah, that's where 519 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: I'm going. I'm taking the hitters every single time. I 520 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: learned by failure. And the other thing that I will say, though, 521 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: is look, it's not a perfect science either. Look at 522 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: the year Jacob Wilson is adding with Oakland, or I 523 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: should say the Athletics. I'm sorry, West Sacramento Athletics. But 524 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: the season he's having at the plate that has been unbelievable, 525 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: and there were a lot of really good hitters that 526 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: were taken before him in that particular draft, so it's not, 527 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, a perfec science. To answer your question, I 528 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: would have taken Cagalion without a doubt. I would have 529 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: taken Kurts. I mean, I would take a hitter there. 530 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: You know. The only time that I change is if 531 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: the guy is a generational ace, because it's too that's 532 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: the hardest thing to get in baseball because it's either 533 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: costing three hundred million dollars in free agency because you 534 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: can't even trade your farm system really to get that guy. 535 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: So if Sken's and Strasburg are there, I'm doing that. Otherwise, 536 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm taking the mark to share. I'm taking 537 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: to Joe Mauer and it's the hit tool first and 538 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: the power follows. In Caglion as both JB. 539 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: You brought absolute heat. I am very excited for the 540 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 3: trade deadline as well, under sixty days until that point. 541 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: We'll talk a lot up until that point as well. 542 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: I love your backdrop. Thank you, talk soon. 543 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, And he's bringing it today. 544 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: That is the Monday energy that we need on FT