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Speaker 1: We welcome Vice President Mike Pence. Mister Vice President, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining Bloomberg Television. We just heard

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Speaker 1: from President Biden on this historic UAW strike, as well

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Speaker 1: as Sean Fain. You and Sean Fain actually share some geography.

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Speaker 1: He worked at a plant in Kokomo, Indiana, one hundred

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Speaker 1: miles from your hotown of Columbus. But he's striking against

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Speaker 1: the Big Three. This is about Detroit and Michigan, a

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Speaker 1: state you and President Donald Trump flipped to red the

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Speaker 1: first time Republicans flipped Michigan in twenty sixteen since the

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, but you lost it in twenty twenty. Are

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Speaker 1: you on the side of the workers? Do you think

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Speaker 1: what they're doing is justified?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, let me say I'm on the side of

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Speaker 2: the American people who are struggling under the failed policies

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Speaker 2: of the Biden administration. Joe Biden is weakened this country

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Speaker 2: at home and abroad. But that gusher of spending when

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Speaker 2: they came into office two trillion dollars in unnecessary spending,

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Speaker 2: launched the worst inflation in forty years. Wages haven't kept

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Speaker 2: up the backdrop of what's happening between the Big Three

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Speaker 2: and the U a W today is that American workers

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Speaker 2: are hurting. I hear it everywhere I go across the country.

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Speaker 2: You know, people are struggling to pay for groceries, They're

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Speaker 2: struggling to pay for gasoline at the pomp and it's

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Speaker 2: you know, I tell people this one crisis after another,

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Speaker 2: but they're all man made crises. And that man's name

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Speaker 2: is Joe Biden. And so I think the first thing

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Speaker 2: is the strike and the demands that you hear from

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Speaker 2: workers are being driven by people that are that are

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Speaker 2: that are enduring the failed policies of Bidenomics. But I

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Speaker 2: also think, Amory, I honestly think what you touched on

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Speaker 2: just a few moments ago is an unreported aspect of this.

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Speaker 3: Look. I was governor of state of Indiana.

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Speaker 1: It's the second you're right to work state.

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Speaker 3: It's a right to work state.

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Speaker 2: If we have a proud U a W tradition, they're

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Speaker 2: a proud automotive tradition in the state of Indiana. So

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Speaker 2: and I will tell you what what I'm hearing around

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Speaker 2: the country is that that auto workers are very, very

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Speaker 2: concerned about Joe Biden's Green New Deal, heavy handed effort

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Speaker 2: to use taxpayer dollars to drive these automotive companies into

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Speaker 2: electric vehicle production. I mean, you got you got one

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty five thousand workers out there that have

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Speaker 2: been many of them built a lifetime making gasoline powered cars,

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Speaker 2: and suddenly they see Joe Biden and liberal Democrats pushing

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Speaker 2: down this electric vehicle the GENC states like California that

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Speaker 2: are saying at the end of the decade, they don't

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Speaker 2: even let you sell a gasoline powered vehicle in the state.

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Speaker 2: I think that's also driving this. The backdrop of the

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Speaker 2: failed policies of the Biden administration, plus the heavy handed

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Speaker 2: effort with their Green New Deal to use taxpayer dollars

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Speaker 2: to drive these companies away from the traditional manufacturing. There's

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Speaker 2: so many UAW workers who made it in I think

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Speaker 2: that's what brought us to today.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk a little bit more about what Sean Fein

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Speaker 4: and his union members are saying. They're trying to play

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Speaker 4: catch up. They say, sure, with a massive gap between

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Speaker 4: worker pay and executive pay. He said, we're tired of

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Speaker 4: living office scraps left by millionaire executives. When it comes

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Speaker 4: to wages, you opposed raising the minimum wage in two

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Speaker 4: thousand and seven as a congressman at that time, believe

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Speaker 4: it was five point fifteen. They wanted to raise it,

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Speaker 4: and I believe did to seven twenty five.

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Speaker 5: At the time.

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Speaker 4: And as governor, you blocked an effort that would have

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Speaker 4: had local municipalities essentially demand higher wages from some companies.

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Speaker 4: I know that's actually in line with your politics. So

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Speaker 4: I guess I would ask you here, how should they

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Speaker 4: over the last two decades, would these workers be in

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Speaker 4: the same spot.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's be clear.

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Speaker 2: I mean I believe in free market economics. Free enterprises

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Speaker 2: created the most prosperous nation in the world has ever known.

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Speaker 3: We have to preserve that and.

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Speaker 2: A minimum wage debates that always came up back in

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Speaker 2: I mean, you looked around the state of Indiana. You

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Speaker 2: the marketplace is paying out a higher number all across

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Speaker 2: put your finger on it, Joe. I think what's happening

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Speaker 2: with this strike and I'm glad it only affects thirteen

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Speaker 2: thousand workers so far far because of all these one

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Speaker 2: going to have an enormous impact on an economy is

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Speaker 2: But I think that rather than going back to the

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Speaker 2: same rhetoric about closing the gap between the executives and others,

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Speaker 2: Biden is to recognize that under Biden's economic policies, wages

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Speaker 2: Americans out in the heartland know that.

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Speaker 1: Inflation is starting to come down now. And I'll a

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Speaker 1: lot of these legislative products of the Biden administration is

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Speaker 1: really also about China. They're trying to move the supply

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Speaker 1: chain away from China to get an EV tax credit.

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Speaker 1: Most of that car needs to be assembled or some

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Speaker 1: of the battery materials has to be come from North America.

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Speaker 1: Because you know better than anyone China is dominating when

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Speaker 1: it comes to advanced technology, when it comes to battery

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Speaker 1: war materials and making evs. And you're about to give

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Speaker 1: a major policy speech Monday on China. You were basically

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Speaker 1: And in twenty nineteen at the Woodrow Wilson Institute, you

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Speaker 1: said you constantly get asked are we trying to decouple

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Speaker 1: from China? And you said a resounding no. Is that

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Speaker 1: still the case?

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Speaker 2: It's still the case, But we have to recognize the

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Speaker 2: China is the greatest economic and strategic threat of the

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Speaker 1: So why not decouple.

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Speaker 2: Well, Because I think using access to the most powerful

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Speaker 2: a mean of having China end decades of trade abuses

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Speaker 2: the human rights abuses that we've been witnessed of with

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Speaker 2: regard to Muslim leger. As Christian pastors, it should be

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Speaker 3: But everything begins with strength.

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Speaker 2: And I'll actually return to the Hudston suit where I

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Speaker 2: gave actually the very first speech on changing our administration's

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Speaker 2: policy towards China many years ago, and I'm going to say,

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Speaker 2: then it all begins with not just rebuilding our military,

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Speaker 2: but building a military fitted to the widening challenges in

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Speaker 3: I want to build a three hundred.

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Speaker 2: And fifty five ship navy by the end of the decade.

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Speaker 2: I believe the United States of America can eclipse the

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Speaker 2: We're going to ensure that our treaty allies in the

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Speaker 2: regent have the support that they need. Look, I've met

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Speaker 2: I've told him some things that he didn't want to hear,

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Speaker 2: and we've spoken plainly at conferences about the interests of

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Speaker 2: our respective notions. China only understands strength, and if I'm

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Speaker 2: President of the United States, We're going to meet that

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Speaker 2: moment with American strength. But we're also going to use

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Speaker 2: access to this the most powerful economy in the world,

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Speaker 2: as a means of bringing China forward, just like we

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Speaker 2: did an Marie with the Phase one trade deal in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. People long since forgotten it, and by all accounts,

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden hasn't held China to their word.

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Speaker 3: With the Phase trade deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, we put two hundred and fifty billion dollars in

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Speaker 2: And we did a phase one trade deal where they

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Speaker 2: largely dropped the ball. Now the other piece of this,

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Speaker 2: I believe in free trade with free nations, and the

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Speaker 2: be looking to strengthen trading relationships with free countries across

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Speaker 2: the Asia Pacific.

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Speaker 3: It's part and part of what we'll talk about.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about trade with China.

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Speaker 4: Now we've seen what China is capable of with this

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Speaker 4: recent revelation of Huawei suddenly emerging with a smartphone that

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Speaker 4: includes ships that we're trying to keep away from China.

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Speaker 5: Are we dancing around the edges here?

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Speaker 4: Is it possible to continue compartmentalizing that relationship. I know

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Speaker 4: you don't want to decouple, but why not cut off

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Speaker 4: our entire technological relationship with Beijing?

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Speaker 2: Well, look, we led the fight internationally against Huawei. So

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Speaker 2: that's a good on Western nations, and we won that fight.

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Speaker 2: If you remember the UK and other nations, we're going

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Speaker 2: going to happen. This whole issue of TikTok. I know,

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Speaker 2: the Republican primary. He had rightly described TikTok as a

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't expect you on tiktoks.

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Speaker 2: Not anytime soon. We'll be banning TikTok. TikTok is a

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Speaker 2: I've raised three young people in this generation, all right.

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Speaker 3: Two of their families are in the armed services.

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Speaker 2: We've got to make that case. We've got to protect

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Speaker 1: When you give this speech or you're going to outline

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Speaker 1: more tariff because you're talking about free trade deals with

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Speaker 1: countries like Japan, Well, what does that mean for the

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, I think what we're gonna do is

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Speaker 2: I really do believe it. It begins with American strength.

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Speaker 2: which is make every effort try and cut military spending.

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people don't know this recent

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Speaker 2: a one percent cut in military.

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Speaker 1: Republicans who voted against even debating the defense budget on

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Speaker 4: It's this president that actually asked for additional Pentagon funding

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Speaker 2: Well, look what I've seen from this administration early on,

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Speaker 2: it's a consistent effort to cut military spending. When they

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Speaker 3: But look, it's like I've said.

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Speaker 2: When we came in in twenty seventeen, we had to

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Speaker 1: But there are exceptions. We could be four exceptions, life

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Speaker 1: But back to Senator Turberville. Should one senator have this

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Speaker 2: It's the reason why I would I was president of

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Speaker 2: That ought to be something that Congress talks about in debates.

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Speaker 2: It's the use of taxpayer dollars, and it's used to

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer could put that bill on the floor tomorrow,

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Speaker 5: Let me ask you this philosophically.

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Speaker 5: In that order, in that order. So would your.

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Speaker 2: Well, it would guide the way that I deal with others.

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Speaker 3: Well, when it.

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Speaker 2: Comes to the right to life, Joe, that's where my

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Speaker 5: So that's your one exception when it comes to your Christians.

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Speaker 1: Joe brought up Christianity. And there's another man of faith

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Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't know what I what I ascribed to.

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Speaker 4: It were called to a rather unique position on January sixth.

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Speaker 1: Under a minute. So this is a quick yes or no.

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Speaker 2: wake of Hurricane Katrina and demanded that there would be

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Speaker 2: to how Republicans take.

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Speaker 3: A strong stand.

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Speaker 2: But let's be clear that whatever's accomplished in this moment,

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Speaker 2: it's still just going to be nipples and dimes, but

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Speaker 2: Ukraine funding against the massive debt crisis that our nation

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Speaker 2: the only candidates for presidents said I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: compassionate reforms of entitlements and save this in future generations,

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Speaker 2: Preserve social security and medicare.

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Speaker 3: Today, let's save our kids from a debt crisis that

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Speaker 3: threatens our futures.

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Speaker 4: Their Vice President, thank you for coming to see us.

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Speaker 4: How about we meet in Iowa Former Vice President Mike

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Speaker 4: Pence with us here on Bloomberg.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for the time, sir,